HomeTech.fm - Episode 577 - eero Phone Home

Episode Date: June 5, 2026

On this week’s show: SwitchBot flips the switch on Nanoleaf, eero dials back to the landline era with a new Telephone Adapter, Home Assistant welcomes Sensereo’s smoke and CO alarms, and the latest Home Assistant beta brings new toys for dashboards, automations, and IR nerds alike. A pick of the week, project updates, and so much more!

This is the Home Tech Podcast. We're Friday, June 5th, from Sarasota, Florida. I'm Seth Johnson. From Reynoldsburg, Ohio. I'm C.J. Huddleston. And from Pickering, Ontario, I'm Gavin Campbell. And welcome to the Home Tech Podcast, podcast. Podcasts all about home automation and home technology.

And it's Apple HomeKit, right? It's WWC. It's big announcements around HomeKit and AI and probably not HomeKit, but mostly AI. Apple's buying control 4. No. Yeah, Apple's buying savant finally. Oh, man. The only thing I've heard is like weird little rumors out of,

it just wouldn't come up, you know, on WWC. It would come out towards the end of the year. But like the weird rumors around like the home thing is that Apple is just like, yeah, we're probably, we can do our own doorbell. Or yeah, we can do our own cameras or something, you know, to have like an Apple branded eye doorbell or something. I don't know what it would be, but, you know, I bell, I guess it would be a good name for it.

But I don't think they really care to do anything anymore. Like, it's a feature of their phone. You buy the phone, you get the feature, is what it is. They gave you a thread network, what do they call it, a thread, uh, dateway or whatever, you know. It's built into the phone. Well, I still think they're going to use that for notifications and battery saving, but that's one of the, that's not,

they don't even talk about that kind of thing that goes into every device they own. So it's just kind of like, oh, it's a feature. We don't care. It got so ridiculous that if you even see, one little HomeKit mention on a slide in the background. It makes big news across, you know, the Apple fan boy space. Yeah. Give me crumbs.

Yeah. Well, WWC was this week, I guess, as you're listening to this show, because I'm probably going to get lazy and not release the show on time again. But MS Build was about this week, right? That was today? I was like three weeks ago.

Oh, yeah, three weeks ago. Sorry, as we're recording, it may have been around this time, And everybody's really excited about all the Microsoft computer things that are coming out. Like there's Arm Nvidia. Invidia is jumping in the arm game and going to make a chip. And I don't know. They're making like a CPU, right?

Yeah. I mean, because obviously they make graphics. They have the factory space. They may as well make something, you know, with it. Yeah, they're coming out with their own arm CPU, you know, and it's supposed to be way better than anything offered today. So, you know, you'll just give Qualcomm time to try and leapfrog them at some point. And then they'll leave frog them back.

But all the vendors have announced, like, their new hardware offering. So Microsoft has their new hardware coming out with these new chips. Dell, HP, Lenovo. They're all coming out with their new hardware in the fall with these new chips. So it's an exciting time because these chips are pretty powerful and can do a lot of AI processing locally. And we'll see what people do with them. Yeah. Well, within Vida, if they're doing their own arm, I guess, as this happened,

the Apple had that, like, quote, unified memory. architecture where they were basically like putting everything close in a package so that the CPU kind of like was built with essentially the memory so everything was faster. Are they doing that? They're doing that. They've got to be doing that.

Yes. Yeah. Okay. So yeah. That's a, that's a, it was a really nice improvement when Apple came out with the M-Series. But do people, I haven't seen I haven't been on the PC side in a long time. Like, do people kind of complain about that? Like, yeah, I would upgrade my memory. And I can't.

because it's built into this thing. Yeah, there is problems with memory. So we have a lot of PCs, for example, with 16 gigs, and we just found that they're struggling at the 16 gigs, 16 gigs, right? When we bought them. And a lot of times in the Enterprise, that's the challenge you run into because they load these computers

with so much stupid endpoints. Like, I get pissed off at it. It's all the security stuff that's slowly. Yeah, but you have 10 different products doing the same thing, but every different group's putting them on. So we wanted to bump them up to 32, and to do that, you basically had to buy new computers. My wife is fighting corporate IT right now.

She keeps dropping on her team's meetings. I'm like, well, that's just a feature. And they're like, oh, no, there's something wrong with the computer. And then the network guys, no, no, it's not the VPN. There's something wrong. And she's like, hey, they made me do this trace route, and it just comes up blank on my computer. And he said that ours was problematic too because it had these, like, things.

I looked at it. I'm like, no, ours is fine. That's just like in parallel saying it's sending out the packets in parallel. And like, yours, you're in a VPN. Of course it dropped. Like, UDP is dropped by the VPN. Like, I'm just like, what are we doing here? Like, why do I have to be the IT for this multimillion dollar company?

Well, what's happened is these systems have gotten so complicated now. There's so many moving pieces from your computer at home, you know, there's the ISP level and then, you know, if you use Z scalar, there's Z scalar firewalls and routing that you have to worry about. And like I lose track of where in that chain the packets are going now. So when we have problems like that,

it takes multiple teams to get involved to look at it and figure out from there. Yeah, it gets ridiculous. And sometimes it is the ISP. Like we've had issues because we have many ISPs across many countries. And we've had issues with ISPs making a specific change that now took down VPN, right?

For our clients, so we had to contact the ISP and tell them, listen, you changed this. Oh, she's kind of in the, I guess what they call the fintech thing. So she probably has the same requirements for VPNs as you guys do. So, yeah, like everything's locked down with her computer. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, probably running similar systems between the two companies. A lot of companies, do.

They have the same. They use C-Scalar. They'll use Cisco, AnyConnect or something like that. That was our old system. or you use service now. A lot of products are similar across a lot of big companies. Yeah.

Yep. Yeah. Well, yeah, we were fighting that today. And I'm like, I don't want to do this. I'm not IT. I didn't pay to do any of those. I'm not IT. Leave me alone.

So, who knows, who knows what it is? It's something magical. I was like, it's just teams. It would work if it was Zoom. We have our teams tweet now. So it actually runs really good at our work. I'm on it like every day, like, for constant meetings.

I don't have dropouts. You know, it's never my computer. It's always someone else's computer. When I notice, I guess when I notice there are issues, I think they're like at the Microsoft level because everybody will be complaining about it, you know, that day. Is, ah, I can't connect today, or I'm having audio issues or some of just random weird issues

between a bunch of users. Yeah. Whenever it starts to happen, you get the typical, does everyone hear him dropping out? Yeah, he's dropping out on our end too. Okay, it's him. not us. Yeah.

And then we get back to the meeting. Yep, yep. All right. Well, MS build, teams, WWC, we talk about it all here. Any predictions? I don't know. WWZ is a much developer-facing conference,

but they're going to talk about their maybe. I mean, there's that rumor of that folding phone that they're going to do. So. They don't usually talk hardware at WDC. They hint at it with the software. They hint at it because it's going to get leaked in the. They got to do it. Yeah.

Yeah, the beta's come out, the code comes out, people tear it apart and it gets leaked, right? So they hint at some of the stuff, but it's mainly software. What is it, iOS 27? It'll be the year. That they're coming out with. Yeah. So I want to see what they're going to do with, what their plans are for AI because what they promised with Siri two years ago, they obviously got sued for because they had ads of Siri doing stuff that never came, you know, I bought the phone hoping, you know, like, oh, I get the better AI Siri. $5 now.

It's too bad you're not in the U.S. I know. Yeah, I can't get part of that. But there's rumors of them working with the other companies now to allow you to integrate it. I hope it's not done like how they did chat GPT in the past. Yeah, where you have to tell Siri to ask chat GPT to do something or something like that. Well, no, there's a switch where it will automatically pass it over, but it's so slow. As soon as it goes over to chat GPT, I just cancel the request and go do something else.

I hope they just don't add the others and make it work the same way because that will be depressing. I don't know if they'd ever set that up. Probably should look at that. Yeah. No, don't set it up. It's more annoying than anything.

If you want to ask ChatGPT, I added just an icon on my home screen that I can hold down and just launch right into ChatGPT. No, no, it says you have a used ChatGPT, but it says confirm requests, I have that turned off. Yeah. All it does is it passes your question off over to it,

and then the Chat GPT answers are you. never what I want. Oh, I thought it would only do that if it was something that Siri didn't know, maybe. Siri doesn't know a lot of things. Oh, that's why. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

The only thing I still use Siri for is the integration with HomeKit where you can say, good morning and it'll turn on all the lights in the morning or good evening, you know. Oh, yeah. Most of the time, hey Siri, ask Chad GPT about this, you know. I'm like, this is a message relayer. Yep. Well, hopefully they do something better with that. And, yeah, I think they're getting the Gemini models, which sound nice.

I guess you'll get that for free. They'll probably have the integrations with the other stuff that you can tie in your account if you want. But Gemini, those models are pretty good. Yeah, will they run it locally on the hardware, or is it going to be like? Probably both. Probably both because the more they put on the hardware, the harder it is on the battery and stuff too, right? Like, that's what I'm, I'm hoping they don't mess with the battery performance too much. Yeah, they love tweaking all the performance on that.

Well, I was having issues with my battery this week, and then I found that they just released an update to the phone that there were apparently battery issues with charging and stuff like that. So I'm hoping that resolve some of my battery issues. I've had that on my watch again. I mean, that's been like every time there's an update on the watch, it's like the battery goes away. Yeah. It's like I get through three cat videos and then I'm at 20%. You know? Three cat videos? Yeah, I'm at 20%. I'm like, I just took this off the,

charger. So I don't know what's going on with it. It's an iPhone 17, so I should check my battery percentage health or whatever they call it. You've actually been on TikTok for the past six hours, Gavin. Yes. That lady's come up and like, are you trying to sleep instead of scroll? No, wait. That's happened before. The way I got out of it is while scrolling through, I was like, hey, I saw this video already. That was like four hours ago. And then they clicks in and I'm like, ah, crap, I've been sitting there for four hours. You got to the end of the, the internet. You can't go any further. Yeah, yeah, I made it to the end of the internet. All right, all right. Well, we got a couple of home tech headlines. Not much happened this

week, but, you know, everybody, it kind of slows down this time of year, especially around these big announcements from Apple and Google and Microsoft. Like, everything slows down and then usually picks back up towards the end of summer. So what do you guys say we jump into these home tech headlines? Let's do it. All right. Switchbot is buying. Nano Leaf, big news, I guess. There's an article over at Matter Alpha that's talking about how Nano Leaf reportedly did a, how to deal to purchase Switchbot, and Nano Leaf is switching to AI in robotics.

So all those fancy lights that TJ has or used to have, I guess you probably used to have at this point, right? Yeah. Yeah. They're going to be Switchbot lights now. All right, I do still have them. Maybe this will make them work. better. So I've had a couple of NanoLeaf products that

Nanoleaf themselves has sent me, and I could never get them to work long term. They would just always disconnect from my Wi-Fi and everything. And I don't have problems with anything else on my network. Specifically, I have the permanent outdoor lights that they sent me. And those I have never been able to make work on

Wi-Fi, even though I have outdoor access points and everything. So, I don't know. Maybe it's something with my network. It probably is. But I've just never had luck with Nanoleaf products. My Switchbot stuff all works great, but all that works via Bluetooth and their hub, so. Yeah, it says here, SwitchBot has Bluetooth and Wi-Fi and their hubs, and Nanleaf has thread and I guess Wi-Fi as well, right?

Yeah. Interesting. Well, I don't know. I feel like these articles where there's consolidation like this, where people either give up or go away or switch or whatever. I don't know. I feel like this means they kind of come to the end of the party. I know.

Like these types of these types of. devices. I mean, there's tons of lighting devices out there right now, like smart lighting devices, right? Govi is a huge player in the space now. And Annalief is still kind of doing what those premium little panel thing, right? That's kind of what they're famous for that I remember. But man, you can get those everywhere now. So I don't know. Get them probably from Switchbot soon. Anyway, a little bit of, let's see, the filing described plans for a new overseas AI R&D Center in North America and Europe focus on multimodal perception and spatial intelligence.

Whatever that means. How much did they spend on Nanoleaf? Let's see. I thought I saw something somewhere else that said like $40 million. $40 million. I thought I saw that too. But I didn't see an actual price listed. $30.8 million?

No, that can't be it. That's how much revenue they had. Yeah, I don't see it in this article, but I do remember seeing $40 million written somewhere. It doesn't seem like that much, but I don't know. SwitchFod has that weird, Oh, I remember these. Okay, yeah.

Yeah, supposedly $40 million. $40 million doesn't really seem like that much for NANOLEAF, though. I mean, Nanoleaf is like a pretty known company. So it's always weird to me when these software companies that make nothing get valued at, like, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars. And then like this company actually makes products and, like, sells them and does like a good job at it and everything. And the $40 million. We'll pay you $5. How about that?

It makes no sense. Like, what is going on with that? That's business. That's business. Yeah. If the more imaginary your product is, the more it's your worth. Hey, chat GPC.

All right. There's a new product out from ERO. They have a telephone adapter that allows you to easily add voice over IP products for ISB deployments and that kind of thing. The USBAC adapter plugs into compatible ERO routers and avoids having to have a separate

voiceover IP product. Pretty good for ISPs. It seems like an interesting little play. But, you know, my local Verizon, I used to be Verizon, I guess it's called Frontier Internet now. Every time you need something, they will swap out

a, the swap out their old ancient, I forget what those, Action Tell, I don't remember what these things were. They were like these black routers with antennas on them and now you get a fancy new ERO router if you complain about their things. They're like, why do you have that?

That's eight years old. We don't have those anymore. So they give you a nice little Eero. And if they want to add voice over IP services on, they can just use this. So not a bad deal. Yeah, I really don't understand the point, but it's just for ISBs. Why are we doing this now? Why are we still doing this?

Yeah, well, you know, what's old is new again, I guess. I guess so. It's funny, I'll talk about my projects, but at the community center I help out with is they had like this old router thing like that. And they were calling me while I was on vacation. I'm like, just call Frontier and get them to replace that stupid thing. And they brought that at the Euro. and plugged it in and everything worked,

and now I'm going back out there to rip it out. So just put this in the closet and save it for any day. What a mess. Yep. Actually, it would be handy for them because they do phones too. All right, and last but not least, Akara announces that they are going to be in Best Buy, which is exciting for two different reasons.

One, all these Akar devices may be locally available if you get, you know, you want to run and grab, like a, what was it, a door lock? or something that you may need in a pinch. But I think for one of us, they may be winning a bet. Or not a bet, a prediction from the fireside. That's basically a bet.

Yeah, I guess so, yeah. Why not? TJ, TJ was saying that he just thought you would start seeing Home Assistant logos on boxes and products, showing up at, like, retail stores and Best Buy, and I think that was one of your bets. Like, yeah, yeah.

So out of all the products, I think, This is probably a pretty good one, pretty good contenders. One of their devices has to have that on there, right? Yeah, I'm hoping so. I mean, I'll have to go to a Best Buy at some point and see. But, I mean, they have been getting more and more friendly with home assistance. So I'm not, I'm not sure that we won't see it at some point. But I don't think it'll be this device specifically.

Because this device, they're going to advertise their Apple HomeKit, home key support and everything like that. Yeah, yeah. You know. Yeah, so they're saying that you 400, is what's starting this in there, but they're also going to have other products in there as well. So I don't know, all these stores have,

Best Buy particularly had like a pretty large selection of, like home automation and lights and GoV products, and that kind of thing when I was in there last. But I am rarely in there anymore. Yeah, just looking on their website, I see the, what is it, the Kara. SmartLock is the U-100, for example. And on the package, it just, the images are just going by that.

It only has works with Apple Homeland. So it's already there. I don't know. Where's there? They have others on here as well. Here's the U-400. Let's see. Just taking a quick look.

Take a look. It lists matter, thread, Wi-Fi, Apple Home key, fingerprint, you know. It's good that Apple put the name in all their, like, Apple Home key. Right. So you know which one it is. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, that's Apple's one, right? But yeah, I'm looking for any mention of home assistant or, you know. They probably just scrubbed it off the box. Like, you'll go in there, TJ, and there should be like

somebody had scraped it off. Just a bare piece of Richer. Hey, you got to juice the number somehow. All right. Well, DJ, you might win. I don't know.

I don't know. We'll see what happens. We'll find out eventually. Yeah. We have another six months, though, so. And time for the holidays. Plenty of time.

Plenty of time. All right, well, all the links and topics to discuss tonight can be found over on our show notes at hometech.com slash 577. Nothing in the mailbox, but I do have something I put in here for the pick of the week. I forget, I keep forgetting about this. I keep meaning to add this little app that I found that's just adorable. And it's called Relax with Coax. And if you've ever wanted to just view your media library,

and I think in this particular app's case, it's in like Plex, you can point it as your Plex Media Server, and it will make you a nice little like NVR, DVR, TV guide that you can flip through. And, you know, all your movies can be in the movie channels together. And then you'll have music channels. If you have music in there as well. If you click it and watch it, it'll have like the overlay where it has the channel number on it and what's playing. It is a delightful little app, really well put together.

And I use it by attempting to show my daughter. how the how Saturday morning cartoons worked when I was a kid and say, here, you can watch this channel here

and she's like, well, I want to pause it. I'm like, no, you don't get to pause it. You don't get, unfortunately,

it doesn't mix in commercials that I know of. I wonder if it can, though, but that would be a lot of fun if it could. Then I would download a bunch of commercials

and stick them in there, but it's just like watching TV mostly. It's a lot of fun. I think it adds commercials. I think it said it adds commercial. Does it add commercials? Yeah. I love the name though. I love the name Coax. You know, that's a great name they chose for it. And I've seen similar plugins for like, I think

M.B. had one or Cody had one where they did similar things. They just took your library and made channels out of it. Same concept. But it's a great concept because it gives you that real time feel, uh, TV feel. You know, and it would be nice if they added some like parental controls where you can make the channel go offline at like midnight. So it'll play like the national anthem and then like static until the kid seven o'clock the next morning. I'm gonna go back even further. Remember they had analog filters on the cable boxes, Gavin?

I know TJ probably doesn't remember this. And you'd be watching it and you're like, you're like just staring at it. You're like a boob. I saw a boop. Yes. And you go back to watching this like wiggly, curvy thing. It's like, what am I talking? discolored and everything.

I got a boob, I saw a boob, there's a boop. Hey, back then we used to have the little adapter things you put on that, that de-scrambled it all.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had all those scrambled boxes back then too, right? Notch filters that they would put in the cable line. Yep, and they would take out the frequencies that those channels

are on. Yeah, fun, fun times. Yeah. But this is a little fun little little project someone put together. And it does have parental controls, but not that it turns off or whatever, but like you can restrict it to so many,

like you can say at least Y7 or TV 14 or whatever and restrict it that way if you wanted. I think I did set it up that way because there's a number of movies that we wouldn't want our daughter to kind of like channel surf into. Yeah, obviously. It's like, it's a guide, right?

And if you go down and you select the guide, like it will show you what's on the movie playing at that time, right? It just makes a random guide up for you. Which also is really nice because if you ever don't know what to watch, just open this up and find the genre that you want to watch

or whatever, the movie genre or whatever, you can just click that and just let it go. Because there's something on TV now. I don't know. It's a lot of fun. I really liked it. So I could highly recommend it. And like you said, Gavin, the name coax, like the way they made their little logo when it's on it looks like an old TV.

you know, a cable TV logo or whatever, especially on the app. It did a good job. They did a great job. Yeah, I like it, you know. There's also a, you can flip the TV guide. I don't know if they talk about this on here, but you can flip the TV guide for like a retro look,

which it has like the block font. And then you can also turn it to like a smoother, like a more updated cable box from like, I don't know, 2006 era. You know, it had the smoother font and we'd look at a nicer channel guide. I left it on the retro font. It's just a shame that it's only Mac. It only runs up Mac and Apple TV.

Apple TV, yep, yep, yeah. I wish I had Windows version, but it is what it is. Yeah, you're an Apple TV. It's all you need. It's a cool, cool app. All right, well, if you have any feedback, questions, ideas for zero pixel week, give us a shout, email address is feedback at hometech.com. Or you can head on over to hometech.com slash feedback and fill out the online form.

All right, project updates, but first we get some home system updates because something else works with home system, and that something else is Sincereo matter-based smoke and carbon dioxide alarms. They matter now, and they work with Home Assistant. Well, that's good. A lot of people are looking for Google replacement since they discontinued support.

So this is good, and it works directly with Home Assistant. How could it get any better? There you know. Not a lot of options out there for smoke detectors, and smart smoke detectors at least. There's like a couple options. You have a couple like retrofit wiring options

from like zoos and stuff like that, but you don't have a lot of smart options for some reason. So this works with Zig. Oh, this is thread. So I have to have the thread version of the Home Assistant toilet paper holder, right? I can't have the Z wave one.

Correct. The Zigby one, you can flip over to thread. Yeah, but you have the Z wave, so. I just lost out. I don't really even have any Z wave products, but I have the toilet paper holder. No, you have the switch I say. I do have the two switches, yep.

Two switches. Yep, yep, yep, yep. And this thing on my desk that's sitting here, this thing, which I have not installed anywhere. The door contact sensor, which does wonders on my desk, still sitting in the package phone that it came in. All right, well, that's cool.

And then Alma Assistant also released something. They've got a new beta for 2026.6. And what does it have? What does it have in it? The coolest thing I saw is it has IR commands are finally in there. And ESPM has a transmitter supporting it. And LG infrared is the first device

that is integrated using the IR. So LG, you may, IAR, you IR now. Good job. Yeah, and keep in mind, it, it, they added support to receive signals now, but it's not like what you think. It's not like, um, you're going to be programming it or you can really control your, um, your home assistant using IR. It's more or less, not yet, but at this point, it's more or less. Um, so how can I explain this? You know, when you're using a remote and it shoots an IR signal off to the TV, well, then how's home assistant going to know that it's on?

Well, if it also captured that same IR signal, it would know you sent the odd command to your TV and then if you flip the state on the switch and stuff like that. So they'll capture the commands so they can also track the state of your TV and stuff like that. Well, it says you can turn any old IR remote into a home assistant controller. So what you do is if you've got the Samsung remote or even one of the old TiVo remotes, those were awesome, you could take that and that could be your home assistant controller thingy. So there you go.

Kind of. They're working on it, though. It's getting better. It's getting better. A lot of UI interface updates. This one isn't as jam-packed in terms of new features and stuff, but again, they're doing a lot of foundational work that maybe on the next one, you'll see a few new things pop up. All right. Very cool.

Yeah, and a couple of, it looks like, Morant's infrareds being added. Yeah. Oh, you know, I think of is I see they're talking about Mitsubishi comfort, like the heat pumps, the little. mini splits. Those all use infrared. So that's a pretty big, like we're talking about AV devices, but that's a pretty big thing. I use Sinsibo for mine right now.

Yeah, Sensible is popular. People have various options to control them. So this is just making it easier. Yeah, it makes it more of a direct integration. Yeah. Like they added support for controlling your LGTVs via serial port, via serial. It's not serial.

Oh, yes. So you'll now be able. And it looks. like Paulus himself was added, added that. And now you know, he's involved. Yeah. Yeah, it's going to get some love. All right.

Well, I'll have to keep an eye on that one. Projects, we got some projects this week. I mentioned I was doing, I did some community center work, updating the network, and I put a little camera in so they can see what's going on and how many people are doing Chi Chi or something. I don't know. They charge by how many people go and they always want to count and know how many people are in there.

So I was like, you know, I'll just put a little camera up here. So I've been slowly taking all the junk out of my garage and donating it over to the community center so that they have better Wi-Fi and all that good stuff because it's pretty ancient over there and they need better stuff. So there you go. Nice. And I found a, I was messing around with my, I think I talked about last week, my gilly net or GILINET, however it pronounces. They have a KVM that you can use. And I was talking to last week about how I hooked it up to my Mac.

And I was like, well, these are kind of nice. I bet I could hook this up to my work computer too. And no one at work would know if I'm, you know, not on my work computer. I could just have it hooked up, right, Gavin? That's how it works. Anyway, I did it so I can, like, access the work computer to a little KVM if I need to. And it's right there. So, but they came out with a POE version.

It's even better than the old version. It's the same size, same look and everything. but you plug it in to POE and it fires right up and you just plug the HTML in and you plug in the keyboard connector cable in and you're good to go. So boom, very nice.

I don't think I've ever had a reason to have a KVM. Is it basically just allowing you to access your computer remotely? It's like a plug-in play option so you don't have to set up like a VPN? You would still need to set up a VPN for it or I think they have like the option

where you can go over. They have like tailscape. Some like cloud-based connection or something. Yeah, I don't think these have it. These have tailscale integration and that kind of thing. So you could get it on your network that way. But it's basically a computer monitor, you know, just makes it like you have physical access.

Rather than like the problem I'm having with the software solutions is on my computer, like sometimes they just stop working or the computer reboots. And then it's like it rebooted. You literally, like the software's not running anymore. And now you have to go physically get next to it and power it on and shake it or hook up a monitor to it. Well, now this is just like a monitor. keyboards connected all the time. So even if it does reboot, I can just log into this thing and hit the button a few times and it comes on. All right. That's fine cool. A little bit better than the

software. I do use the software a little bit more because it's faster and I don't know, a little bit better. This, like I said, the Jump Desktop last week. It really works well. I'm using it right now to record on a second computer that we use and just record all our files there. And I like using Jump Desktop to access that because they've got a really good protocol or something they're using. Can that actually, can you power on your computer, like power cycle your computer with that? Yeah, in fact, they have some

little, like, add-in cards. I forgot it was a, they had a little card. It wasn't, it wasn't, it was ATX compatibility, so you plug it in to, it's like a add-on card, I forget how much it was, but I think you, like, either take it apart or slide it in somewhere or something, and it gives you

those little wires that you can connect to where the buttons would be on your computer. So, yeah, you you can physically turn on and off the computer with it. Oh, oh, and it also has fingerbot support. So I can just, if you want, you can just get a little switchbot thing or fingerbot and poke the power button. You know, as ridiculous as these finger bots are, that's, it's kind of brilliant in their own way.

Like, I don't know, like, they're ugly looking and everything like that, but, man, there's simplicity and what you can do at them is just, like, ridiculous. I mean, so many uses. I've used mine for my garage store, Oprah. I've used it now for my battery and my shed. So unlimited uses. Gilly net, G-L-I-Net, I think is what it is. And that's what my travel router is.

Yeah, mine too. Good little company, nice little products. I've used the travel router for years now, but they're coming out with more and more stuff. They have a remote wake and unlock control for laptops and phones now. I don't even know how that works. but I guess it does. So anyway, good, good stuff.

Who's up next? DJ, what have you been up to? I have been working on the house still. Yay! Just never-ending projects. We got a family coming in this weekend. They moved their arrival day up two days. So that leaves less time for projects.

They're like, is that fine? I'm like, yeah, sure, why not, you know? Just the middle of roofing my house. Yeah, I'm just like doing all my projects on Saturday and Sunday when you're not supposed to be here, but that's fine. Yeah. But we got the living room and the hallway painted. We did that.

We got all the holes patched up and everything. Not the ceiling. The ceiling is host. I mean, that's going to need, like, just a layer of drywall on top of it to fix it. That's how that we're going to do that at some point.

But we got all the holes. You're just going to do it like, oh, and making a theater. You're just going to green glue some, like, stuff of things. Yeah.

Yeah, just a whole new layer. And it'll be nice. That's what I'm thinking, honestly, because we have like old, like, eight inch can lights and like stuff.

Like, all kinds of crazy holes in the ceiling. work to sit there and like on a ladder and patch this and make this look nicer. Forget that stuff. Just make it a half inch lower. You're good to go. Yeah. I mean, you won't even notice that.

So probably going to do that. But we got everything painted. It's nice. It's a lot better than millennial gray or whatever color it was before. Yeah, it was awful. It's just like a gross gray color. And, yeah, it took like three coats. So it's just, we boarded the dog for the weekend and we just kept painting because he kept

looking at us all sad, like he was just in the den hanging out, like, I want to hang out with you guys. And I'm like, you're going to 100% touch this painted wall as soon as I let you in here. So we took him away for the weekend. Oh. Yeah. He just wanted to play, DJ. Yeah, he just wanted to touch painted walls. Probably.

That's like, as soon as we let the cat inside, he walked on top of the drywall dust. And it's like, come on. Seriously, like, immediately. You have this whole floor and that's where you went. Literally everywhere, just in the corner, literally in the corner of the room. Oh, what's this over here? So working on that, but I'm also working on my smart garden. So I've, you know, it's been, we've been slowly getting stuff planted now that the actual cold season's over.

We have this thing up in the north Seth. It's called frost. Yeah, you're telling you about this. Yeah, I mean, it gets like cold at nighttime and then like stuff, you know, it like partially freezes. There's some like, you know, some like frost, frozen water, if you will, Seth. on the grass and the plants and stuff like that. So that's over now. We don't have to worry about that, supposedly.

We'll see how climate change deals with that in a couple of years, I'm sure. But there is no more risk of that. So we have all of our stuff planted. And I've been working on getting, finally, I've had all the irrigation, like the actual physical lines done, but I haven't had some of the beds, like, actually, you know, ran with the irrigation yet because we haven't had any plants in there, right? And so I've been actually installing the VATs,

and installing the water lines and getting them all working. And what's nice is since everything's connected to the controller already, it just works. You know, I just, I plug it in and I turn it on and that's it. So it's been very easy to use and there's been no problem so far. I still don't have any way to monitor my water usage. So I'm worried about like a potential leak or something that I'm not aware of. And there's a couple of things I need to like refine. like the, I'm using Ratchio for my sprinkler controller,

and they allow you to do, I think it's like a quick run for five minutes. Yeah. Or 10 minutes, but I don't think there's a way to, like, change that. So if I wanted to let it run for longer or shorter, I don't think there's a way to do that. I have to do that with a home assistant automation. There is in the API. I remember that.

No, you could do it on the app. I feel like there should be a way to do it, but I can't find it anywhere. Yeah, when you click on zones, you choose, like your area, You click on Quick Run, and then it lets you set the time. Yeah, see, that's the problem is you have to select it every time, where if I just trigger from Home Assistant, it does it for the default, like, five or ten minutes. Yeah, to do it from Home Assistant, there's an action,

and you can specify the amount of time in the action. Okay. So it's just... Does it still have the auto shut off? Because that's the thing I like. Yes. Okay. It basically sends the command that says,

hey, run this zone for five minutes, and then you don't have to send another command to shut it off right. It runs it for five minutes, tracks it itself, and then turns off. Well, I'll have to see where that's at, because that's been, the annoying thing is, it's like, you know, some of my beds don't need five minutes of watering or whatever it is. And there hasn't been a way for me to do that. So it's good there's a solution for that at least. And then I found a neat card integration.

It's called Home Assistant Plant. This is on GitHub. You can go take a look at it. Basically, it creates this little card entity. for your plant. And inside that card entity, you can have your air humidity sensor. You can have a conductivity,

illuminates, soil moisture sensor, you know, the percentage, temperature, and a couple other things as well. So it gives you a plant card and you assign what sensors would be near that plant. Yep. Yeah, so like I have a soil moisture sensor in each garden bed so I can assign it

to that. And then if you click on, uh, we'll include this in the, in the show notes as well, I'll include a picture of like, uh, what the card looks like on my side. So I have one for my Lufa here. Um,

and it tells me the, tells me all the cool little stats about it. So this has been kind of neat because there hasn't been a good way for me to like showcase this on a dashboard without like getting super custom and I'm not, I'm not going to go like deep and yammel and make my own card and whatever else. I've tried to do that before and, uh, I am not that person. So the fact that this exists and allows me to just add these little entities without much effort is pretty nice.

Because then I can go here and just see what the actual soil moisture is in all my plants. They relies on a website called Open Plant Book. And that's pretty cool. They have a bunch of free open source resources about plants on there. So that's actually what they're pulling the information from. They don't have all the plants, though. but you can submit to add plants. It's open.

So, yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty nice. There's a closed plan book. You just add plant and send it over to them and we'll see what happens. So I added a couple because, you know, you can add like a generic device, like a generic plant. For example, you know, we have Albion strawberries or a specific type of strawberries that are June bearing. So they'll produce a lot of strawberries in June. They don't have that specific one.

And so I sent them, you know, some information about it. So we'll see if that gets added at some point. There you go. Very cool. Yeah, the only thing I wish I had is like some kind of toggle button, which I might suggest to them. So that way I can turn like my irrigation control or my irrigation zone on for it. Because that would be pretty nice. Like that's really what I'm doing because on my main home assistant dashboard for my garden, like I have basically all my rooms segmented in their own tab.

And I have a garden tab. But it's just, it's very ugly, you know. There's not a good way to present this kind of information. So this is definitely a cool card. if you have some plants and some soil moisture sensors and other things going on, give us a look. It might be useful for you. I'm kind of saddened that there's no paw-paw plant in the plant book, Open plant.

Yeah, see, that's messed up. We definitely need a paw-paw plant. Add that in. Sending nasty email now. Yeah, no, no, Paul. No, it's not there. I search for it. Request this plant.

Yeah, that's all my project. So what about you, Gavin? Well, for those following with the office, you know, betting going on around this topic, I just want to give you an update. The walls have not been fixed. Yeah, what a surprise. So, you know, if you bet it would be fixed by now, you're out, you know. There's still hope for some of you. But I'm pretty sure no one, like, bet before like four to six months, you know.

They probably said it would be fixed after six months. So that's the update. We'll move on from that. I just assume Rose would get rid of you before you can fix it. There's some stretch goals here, yeah. It's not that easy to get rid of me, but she did. The mirror I had leaning up against the wall, hiding some of the holes, you know,

hopefully she would forget, happened to fall over and break this evening right before the show. So now we lost that mirror, and the holes are very visible again. No mirror, a bunch of glass mess, and you have holes in your wall. She should just put a piece of glass right in front of the hole. problem solved. Well, we went to one of these paint nights, so I'm going to take that picture and probably just stick it over the hole. That's a good idea.

The problem is, is one of the holes is at the ground, so it looks awkward with the paint. Yeah, with the paint over top of it so low. Nah, nobody will think anything about it. Yeah, no one will think anything about it. But, yeah, we lost the mirror. You know, she's going to have seven years bad luck. Fair not come camping with me.

I'm not sending her. this. Hey, she listens to every episode, I think, you know, probably just the intro, so that's why I get briefed now.

Yeah. This is Gavin's safe zone here. Yeah, this is my same. No one listens this far in the show, you know. Somebody the other day told me they listen to the show

and I was like, don't. Why are you listening to this right now? I don't know what I said. I have to listen. Now the problem is I have to listen to, if Seth slipped anything in there, I shouldn't have said?

Slip the AI voice in, yeah. You never know. I mean, it's probably something that I actually did say, you shouldn't release it, though. My boss found out about the podcast the other day and ping me about it. So he's probably listening now. You know, I have one of the greatest bosses ever, you know. He really takes care of his team.

Oh, man. Is that the guy you were talking smack about when I was up there? You're like, he never gets off your case or anything? No, no, no, that's the other boss, you know. This is my work boss. It was the one with the hair, right? The hair. Yeah, no, no, no, no, the different boss, different boss.

This is my real boss. This is the greatest boss ever. But yeah, hi, boss. Um, all right, moving on. Uh, I got, uh, all my unified cameras installed this week. It was I got the P to Z G6 P to Z installed. That thing is awesome. It's pretty sweet, isn't it?

Yeah. You know, like when I first looked at it, I didn't like the look of it. I thought it was going to be so big, you know, having out there. But we, I bought the recess mounting. So now all you see is just the ball sticking out like on my soft. Yeah. And it spins around and follows people around the property. And it looks, you know, I thought it was going to look awkward with two different cameras because on the other side, I don't have a P2 Z.

But they match pretty well. So it doesn't look bad at all, right? Before I could even configure the zones and stuff like that. So it was up there sitting following, it was following everybody as they walked by on the sidewalk as the cars went by. One lady did not like it because she was inspecting the home and obviously saw it tracking her. And she gave it the middle finger. So I was like, all right, I need to adjust these zones. You know, like the neighbors are really not going to like that.

This thing follows them if they're walking by on the sidewalk. But it picks up, it's amazing because it picks up the license plate from images. I can't even see the license plate on, but it's picked it up somehow. Sometimes I wonder if it makes it up. You know what I mean? It's like, it's such a terrible image or something. I'm like, this isn't real, is it? Yeah, but it's been, it's really good.

And then just how it tracks the people, attract the people, zoom in on them, follow them around. If there's more people, it zooms out to get them in the picture, you know, that type of stuff. So it's really cool how it works. So I like it.

It's a fun device. I was sure the recording, the camera has a higher resolution than you think. So, I mean, you can get down and see those pixels and average them together to make the, make out what the license leaders. But like, I noticed that Unify or the protect app, when you're playing back, like, the quality is pretty garbage.

And I saw a little note on there that said, download for the high-res version. So, like, you can export a clip and it'll be at a higher-res. Yeah. And you got to take that into consideration as you get these cameras because they're higher resolutions. It means more data storage, you know, and stuff like that. Not just that.

I went over, like, I have the Dream Machine Pro SE, and they have a certain number of cameras. It's not even based on the number of cameras. I think it's based on, like, the megapixels or something like that of the cameras. and I ended up going over my limit, right? I had to take out a bunch of other cameras just to be able to add all these extra cameras. So things that take into consideration.

So it's working really nice. It's all set up. Thank you for DJ for running those wires. You know, all these holes were well worth it. Got it done, DJ. All those holes are done. And the wife, she actually laughed because I got the cameras all set up installed before I fixed the walls.

I mean, are you surprised? I'm not at all. I'm not surprised at all. I'm not even surprised. I knew what I was going to do first. I knew I was capable of. I knew what I was capable of. Moving on.

So I talked about this product before, and I think Seth, you'll like this because you've always talked about, you have like a calendar board or something like that that sings with your Google calendars or something to display your family calendar. I got the skylight, which is what Adam Justin said. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. Yeah.

So I've had this picture. frame from a company called Framio, or Framo. I don't know, it's F-R-A-M-E-O. And basically, it's real, I've talked about it before. I really like this product because the app on the phone makes it so easy just to add images. And then the way it moves through the images, it plays videos, all sorts of things. It's really powerful, but they released this week, uh, calendar integration.

So now you can have it displaying your family calendar as well as slideshows of pictures and stuff all along. And it's a fraction of the. price of your skylight, I think. It's smaller. It's smaller, yes. But it's, they added this and I was just like, ah, Seth might like something like this, you know? Yeah.

So if you're looking for a solution that displays calendar and then also as a picture frame, you know, digital picture frame, check this product out. I highly recommend it. Very cool. I've seen these in the wild before. But yeah, I've heard, I've heard good things about this particular. They were at CES as well. I was in their booth, but they don't respond to any of my emails at all.

I'll send them another one. I send them one a month just trying to get like something, you know, some attention. The Skylight, they've been updating that recently. I noticed they were at Costco too. So like I was walking through and they've got some of the smaller ones in there. But yeah, they've done a pretty good job of updating it and adding features in. But it handles, so I see this one has the calendar piece that's on there now. But this one handles like to-do lists and chores and all that kind of stuff.

So that's kind of what we're using it for mostly. Oh, the Skylight one? Yeah. It's got like a bunch of family. And I'm pretty sure the frameo will eventually get there. Yeah. You know, they're going to need a bigger one. Yeah.

For a photo frame, though, this looks like it works really well. The software, I have to admit, the software is really good. Like, it's even, even integrates with the share sheet on the iOS. So from my photos, I could just share it. I could just share it and say, send it right to the thing. It uploads it there. So I give it props for its software. Really well done.

Yeah. It's good privacy. It's good privacy movement. talks about the privacy they have. But yeah, the way the sharing works or that share sheet that, like, if you give an app, I don't know if people know this,

but if you give an app to your, your access to your library, there is so much information that exists with every single photo. Not only the people's faces in there, but like where you took it. Where it was took it, with date, time, everything.

Everywhere you've ever been, think about that. Yeah. Yeah, that's a much better way of doing that. Yeah, so I wanted to give a shout out to that. Based on last week, you gave a movie recommendation for Skidamarin. Did you watch it? So I grabbed the movie.

I tried. I tried, Seth. I got through maybe five minutes. I was like, I was like, I can't. I couldn't. I got through five minutes and I just was like, I can't watch. Like, how did you sit through this? I got about halfway through it.

I didn't do the whole thing. Oh, okay. I don't feel so bad now. I got like five. He told you it was terrible, like over and over again. I said don't. I know. Yeah, you're serious when he said don't.

You know, we have a joke by, we like to judge how bad a movie is by the number of like studios that are presented at the big before the movie. Oh, that's one. Yeah. Yeah. So the more studios you see and then it depends on the names you see, we kind of make a bet as to how bad it's going to be, you know. It's like, oh, this is a B, no, B minus. and then, you know, we determine how long we'll watch it for and stuff like that.

So, yeah, there seemed to be a lot in there. Actually, there didn't seem to be enough in there. They needed more. About 10 and 15 more, yeah. Yeah, 10.50 more. But stay away from that movie. Skinnamar rink. I didn't want to talk.

A waste of my five minutes. You owe me five minutes. Waste in my five minutes and my download data. I know. I'm going to upload it back just to get rid of it. Yeah, put it back. You click to return this back to the articles. Let me throw this back on the Internet for somebody else.

I don't want it. And then, you know, everybody always asks, you know, what I use AI agents for, you know, because everyone wants, I get a lot of questions about this. They're like, what do you use them for? Because they're looking for ideas to, you know, use them for. So my latest agent. So just here's one idea that I've been, I just spun up an agent for. I call them crate and basically I have a local music collection and there's for various reasons I have this.

But a lot of the tags were messed up, a lot of the album art was missing, the sorting, etc. So I spun up this agent and I told him, listen, you're our music, you manage my music collection. I go, you grab album art from these sources. You know, this is the, you know, let's discuss the folder structure and the organization and, you know, what tags to keep and what tags and how I want everything done. And we went at that conversation and I said, all right, great, now go sort my music collection. And it went out and it sorted the whole music collection and fixed all the tags and fixed album art, gave me reports on it and everything.

And I was like, this thing did within an hour, stuff that used to take me hours to do in the past. I know now we have streaming services and you have music pools that a lot of DJs downloaded from. But a lot of this stuff was way before that stuff came into play. Right. And a lot of stuff I can't get anywhere because it was sent to me by specific people and stuff like that. Right. So I, you know, even though it's not finding it online anymore, at least it cleans up the music tags a bit and everything based on educated guests of the file names and stuff. So that's another example of something that I just spun up an agent to manage and it saves me a lot of time that, you know, I would have had to spend to do it myself. Right. And that's how I think of these agents. When I have a task that I want done, I just spend. spin up an agent and I say you are a master of this and I go now go off this is why I want you to do go off and do it and it goes off and does it for the most part right so there's another example are you still using uh what is it matter most to to keep up with these yes okay yeah I have mixed reliability with mattermost and open claw open claw yeah it doesn't work well so with open claw I found it kept dropping the session connections or something to my matter most a lot. And I'd have to like refresh the page and then it would finally start. You'd see all the messages again, right?

Um, ever since I switched. I'm not having a problem with. I was having a lot of problems with that, right? Um, with Hermes though, it's been so much better, a much better experience. Also with open claw, I found like it liked to respond in threads, you know, one update, it would start responding in threads, another update you could turn that off. Um, responses. It was, it was always like, I,

mess. Well, in Hermes, too, the Hermes thing, it's, I guess it's set up as a profile and not an agent or something like that. Is that right? Well, in Mattermost, what I do is I go into Mattermost and I add, you go into Mattermost, and you go into integrations and I add a bot account. I'm so you're adding a new one every single time. Yeah, so then I add a bought account and then that bought account, you get a token with it and everything, and then I give the bot account a name and I give it an image and everything like that. And then I just tell, when I spin up the Hermes account and you go through the configuration, you choose Mattermost, and then it will ask for your URL and your token ID and who's allowed to talk to it. I got all that done. Like, that's all, like, that was all done.

But like, if you add your new, your new agent in what you're talking about, like, to, handle your, your record collection or your, you, your, your, your, your, okay, what are you, are you, because Hermes doesn't have a concept of the agents. It says it's a profile for the same agent, something like that. Is that right? Is that what you're using? Different profiles? No, I'm not sure what you're asking. I just know on my un-raid, I have every agent in its own Docker. Oh, so you're just doing a new install for each, oh, okay. Wow. Every agent is its own Docker, right? And I like it that way because now I can play with an agent in settings and stuff and not mess up the whole system. See, I just refuse to do the same thing twice.

I'm not doing it once I'm not doing it again. Hermes does support like profiles, but I found it wasn't really good at doing that in the Docker because it needed to do something and the Docker was restricted, right? So now all I do is I just spin up a new agent. I spin up a new Docker container for that agent and he has its own workspace and everything else. So it is a complete like new.

Okay, that makes sense, yeah. Yeah. And they can talk to each other. You can have a shared workspace and stuff. Sure. where they can talk to each other and stuff. But I mean, it's really nice like that too because I can update with them when I want on a different schedule or like I said, I can try and get Claude working on one and not mess up everything, which kept happening on the old setup. Yeah.

Right. So, yeah, it's really cool. That's what I have running right now. I have like the main, the main Hermes agent running. And then, I mean, he pretends to be called Henry, yeah, I guess, because it says it is. And he's like, that's my name, but I'm really Hermes. But he actually said my bad today, which I was like, hey, he's still there. Somewhere in there.

Yeah. And, but I was able to create another profile and make that Erica's, the dot one that she interacts with. And I put that one strictly to go to the opening AI portion that she likes using. So I don't know. I've got to tinker with things. What I haven't had a good experience with with either Hermes or, open, open,

was the, um, was the ability to, like, add another agent. And so what you're saying is like, ha, you just start from scratch and,

and go all over. Yeah. I don't want to do that. So I'm not going to start from scratch. Well, no, but it's, it's, it's very simple to do.

Like, um, you're just duplicating the Docker or something and I, I just add another, I just add another Docker. I give it its own name and edit the word. Yeah. And then I have instructions.

It's down to a TIA. I created a list of instructions, but there's, It's only like a couple steps. You run the setup and it's mostly next, next, next, next, next, next, next. Oh, I get to this key. I get and enter this key. Next, next, next, next, X, X, X.

And then it's like done. And then it messages me in Mattermost and I just say, hey, your name is this and this is your job and it's, there you go. Yeah. Done. It's initialized. So it's pretty easy in OpenCla. It used to be a little nicer because in the Docker, I could have multiple agents. And I used to have my master agent like just like I'd say spin up a new agent called this.

this is his job and this is his workspace. And it actually did go off the way. We don't say master agent anymore, Kevin. We say main agent. Primary agent. Primary agent. Yeah. Okay.

Sorry if I offended anybody. You're going to get canceled. Yep. I'm going to get canceled now. So what I used to call up my agent zero? It's like what do we? I was looking at this hard drive I have here with these jumper settings on here. I can't even see.

Read this a lot anymore. What are you setting the jumper to, Seth? I don't know. I can't see either one. Is your primary drive or your secondary drive? Oh, that's good. There we go. But yeah, that's what I used to do.

But Open claw was so unstable. Yeah. Stability is there, like I told you guys before, the show started out. It's just like really, while I can take advantage of the low pricing, free pricing, essentially his slamming on. open, sorry, clod code, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, it is, it is cruising right now.

I've got a pretty good system down. Now that I'm relying on this, they'll probably, you know, probably cut this off in a few more weeks. We won't have good prices anymore. Yeah, they're making a price change, I think, in a few weeks. And this is why I'm looking at canceling my plot. I've been actually, I've been using it less and less trying to weed myself off of it and using open AI a lot more.

but I just feel like it's a matter of time before everyone does that and then opening AI comes and does the same type of thing. They're like, ah, we got you, Dr. Reese Bryson. Yeah, yeah, unfortunately.

I mean, I've got a workflow around it and all the plugins that they've made have been really nice and easy to integrate in with it, but, you know, if they go too crazy off the deep end, I, you know, it's just a harness. I could move over to something else

and use the same markdown files to describe the agents that I'm using and skills and everything. Yeah. No big deal. Changing the model is easy. That's the good part. At least I could throw it on another model.

And it still kind of keeps, like, all its knowledge and all its personality and stuff, hopefully. Sort of. Yeah, sort of. So, we'll see. Yeah. Yeah, check out in the chat there. I put the tomato meter rating for Skinner ring there for you. And how did it get, like, 73%?

Is that good? So critics said 70%. It should be. Yeah. Critics said 73 and the popcornometer is the number of, like, actual people, you know, fans who are not critics, I guess, the public rating of it. So even at that, like, even usually when you see this, this kind of rating, it usually means like, okay, it's an artsy movie. You may or may not like it. I'm not sure.

But if you see these reverse, like, if you see something like 95% popcorns but 25% critics, and you know it's really going to be a great movie. But, like, Project Tail Mary, if you look at it right now, that's 94% critics and 95% popcorn. So something like that is, you know, off the chart. So, yeah. Anyway, that's why I was, you know, confused when I'm watching it and getting halfway. They're like, it's going to get better. It does not get better, Gavin. The five minutes you spend, it's like that the entire movie.

It's like it started at a high with the intro ad studios and then it just went down for that. It's like I really enjoyed the very opening credits. Yeah, yeah, I enjoyed the opening credits. And then it was after it was down from the downhill from there. Maybe they shouldn't have filmed it with a ring doorbell or something. Oh, man, they filmed it like, oh, yeah, whatever, it wasn't an iPhone. It feels like it was filmed on a Blackberry. Filmed on a Blackberry.

Like the ring pop-up cameras or whatever. They popped those around the house and recorded kids walking around or something. How did you even find out about this movie? I don't know. I mean, it was making the rounds because it won some a bunch of awards for, for worse movie. I don't know. It won some awards. Like, it got, it got good reviews, especially from critics, but like, in some of the film festivals. So I was like, we usually try and pick those up, but, man, who knew? There's another one I'll find that I'll see any, I can't remember the name of it right now, but I'll find it. It's just as bad. And, um,

So why are you going to send it to me? Well, I mean, it actually has color, uh, and not black and white. You obviously like being tortured, Gavin,

so, I'll send you one. You watch that, even though he told you many, many times not to watch it. Yeah. Just five minutes of it.

I only got through five minutes. This one had somewhat of a plot. And, and it was actually entertaining to watch. Some, I mean, there was a story there. And,

and, but it was like at, at some point, I was just like, nope, we're going to make it through this. We're going to power through this and get through it. But it was one of these like this where it had like 95% critics and and good review from the fans. But I don't know. I'll have to go back and look it up

though. I'll see what it was. Horror movies. Horror movies in 2026. What do you got to do? Hey, my electrical bill came in and every month, it just came in. Every month my electrical bill comes in, I look at it and I cry a little. But then I remember it's not as bad as what it's like in Europe. Maybe I have to. I just offended a bunch of others. I'm getting canceled today. You thought you had a place to go. Nope, you can't go there now.

I can't go there. Yeah, I don't know. I think I need to power down a server or two. I pay the bill. Wife doesn't see it. Nothing to worry about here. There be a few less dockers to run. All right.

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