House of R - 2023 Fall and Winter Hype Meter

Episode Date: August 29, 2023

Jo and Mal are back to get you hyped about all the upcoming releases this fall and winter with their 2023 Fall and Winter Hype Meter (15:22). They bring you the latest and greatest they are looking forward to, along with a few surprises! Which movies or shows will make their top three (1:05:57)? Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Additional Production: Arjuna Ramgopal Social: Jomi Adeniran Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Save this place. Is this cracked? You're good. Whatever we do, we're playing God. We are gods. Greetings. And welcome to House of VAR, a ringerverse podcast on the Ringer Podcast Network. I'm Mallory Rubin, and it is my absolute pleasure to invite you not only back to Vaught International, but also to our new.

House of our podcast feed. Joining me today, now that she's stabilized her time slipping long enough to pod. It's my House of our working title. Co-host, Joanna Robinson. What's up, Joe?

What's up, bad babies? Bad baby. We had a listener right and asked us what bad babies is from. It's just Manalorian season three. Good old, good old Mando season three.

Not a deep cut, fairly shallow cut. No squeasy. Bad baby. Joe. Hi. Hello. It's great to see you again.

It's great to be with you again. You slipped a little, you slipped a little spoilers, some spoilers into your intro there. It's a little Easter eggs. You know, we call, I like to think of, yeah, tease us.

A little moose boosh. A microbe. At the top of the pod. Quite a moosed. Quite a moosed. Here we go. We're here today for one of our favorite seasonal traditions. And yes, we are using the word seasonal, quite loosely and liberally, as we often do.

It is the 2003 fall slash winter hype meter. We will explain the rules of today's pod shortly. But before we get to it and count down our most anticipated releases of the rest of the year, some quick programming reminders. House of R is now a twice a week podcast experience. Follow the new feed.

Give us those five stars. Thank you to everyone who already has. Keep them coming. We're gluttons. We want more. So nice. Everyone's been so nice. More nice things, please.

We are genuinely so appreciative. Thank you. Thank you. And of course, I'm back into the House of Our at the end of this week because we will have our deep dive into the third episode of Asoka on Friday.

Truly cannot wait for that. Over on the ring or verse of the midnight boys. Piu-p-bibu! They're going to be with you twice this week. Get hyped. Talk about a height meter. On Wednesday, they will have their instant reaction

to Asoka episode three. And then on Friday, you are getting bonus boys. You're getting an extra Midnight Boys pod. They are doing a My Adventures with Superman, season one pod. So check in next Friday for that. Joanna, how can the people follow all of that? House of R, the ringerverse, trial by content,

prestige TV, everything, all of it. Yeah, what I mean, listen, life is long. always time for content. And so what I suggest is why don't you subscribe to every single one of those podcasts that she just mentioned, Ringervor's, House of Our, for CGBV. You'll find some combination of us on all of those feeds. Childlike content. Yeah, I'm there. We're doing labor movies this week. What a great time for Hot Labor Summer. Okay. So anyway, also just follow us on social, right? Yeah. That's a move. That's a move you can make. Follow Ringerverse on Twitter, on Instagram, on TikTok. If you want to go leave some first,

comments about Ben Lindberg. We support them. We might even read them out on the podcast. Who is to say? Also email us. Yes. Hobbits and dragons at gmail.com. Any old thing that's on your mind. Someone sent me a photo of a Mandalorian with a Maryland helmet and I sent it right along to Mallory because that is exactly a paralli. So you know whatever we're whatever's on your mind. And then I sent you a number of photos of the Maryland Terrapin football team helmets, which are also adorned in the Maryland state flag. We've had quite a morning.

I now know way more than I ever did before about two Maryland teams, huh? Just a few more to go. I assume that when we're when we're talking about the fall hype meter, we're on the same page that this entire podcast is about the 2003 Baltimore Royals and their World Series quest. I mean, if there's anything else at number one, I'll be disappointed with both of us. Molly, can you believe that this is our third? No, I can't.

I literally cannot believe it. Fall height meter? Together, you and I? It is shocking. Podcasting pals? I thought I just got here last week. Aren't I new? What's happening?

I mean, Joe, we're nearing the two-year anniversary as co-hosts. And the first fall height meter was, I believe, our second. pod together, not ever, you had guessed it on each other's pods, but our second pod together as co-hosts when your ringer journey began. And, you know, we like to refer to it in-house as the fabled Sandman pod when I had that on my all hype meter and really bit. I really bit on that Netflix coming soon. 2021, Miles like Sandman, Sandman's year. You know what? Hype does not. A hype does not abide by any laws of the universe,

including any traditional understanding of the time space continuum. So I feel fine about it still. Or what actually might be good? Because I was just looking at my last hype meter, the one we did. Do you know what my number two was? Good old secret invasion. I recall. You remember I had the Gollum game on mine?

Listen, again, these aren't like predictions. they're certainly not reviews. It's just about anticipation, what we're looking forward to, what we're excited to discuss and share with all of you. We live in the moment with hype. And if the hype fades,

that's okay. All the more reason. We'll always have the hype. All the more reason to enjoy it in the present because it's a tenuous thing. Who knows how long it'll last. Speaking of looking ahead,

you know, the last programming reminder, Joe, it's the same one as always. It's the friendly neighborhood spoiler warning. As you have already gleaned, Today's podcast is a primer pod for the releases to come. And so obviously we will not be spoiling anything that is set to happen in these impending releases outside of talking about what has been featured in trailers, posters, casting news, marketing material, et cetera. Because we don't know anything that's going to happen. We haven't seen any of this.

Anything that has previously aired or come out in a given fictional universe, though, is fair game. We may talk about other stories in a given fictional universe. That's the spoiler warning for today. Interesting. Intriguing. Yeah. Did you think I was going to pick 10 things that had no predecessor and? Do you think I was just going to pick 10 things?

Question mark. Interesting. You know, I will say this is a smuggle light episode for me, but an honorable mentions heavy episode for me. Yeah. I have like five honorable mentions. That's true. Joe, a refresher on the rules.

We're doing it the same way as always. But if anyone is joining us for their first type meter or would like, a reminder on how we go about this shared exercise. We're counting down from 10 to 1. These are secret lists. I don't know what is on Joanna's list and she does not know what is on mine and Carlos does not know what is on either list. It's going to be real-time discovery for all of us. If we have overlapping picks, we will discuss that selection at the higher of the two spots. So if, for example, I have the Wheel of Time season two at 10, and Joanna has the Wheel of Time season two at one,

we will talk about it at the end of the pod when we get to number one. This is an example of how it could go. We should also specify these are genre picks, right? It doesn't necessarily mean that everything that comes up today is something we're going to pot about on House of Art, but it's something that it's in the House of Arn universe, orbit, and universe. Yes. Full slash winter.

What do we mean by that? You might be wondering, and it's a fair question because we have yet to have a single hype meter pod fully and properly aligned with the season that we claim to be discussing. Here's what we're doing today. This is basically for the rest of the year. Anything that comes out that premieres from tomorrow to the end of December. If it's coming out in January, you might say that's winter, hey? Save it for the 2024 hype draft. We'll need all the fodder we can get.

This is about the rest of this year. Yeah. Now, your follow-up question might be, how can we say with certainty what's coming out the rest of this year? Things keep moving. Things keep changing. All right. Here is our best effort to land on a rule and a parameter for this. We are going with releases that have currently confirmed dates that seem reasonably likely to stick. Can we say for sure? Absolutely not. We are allowing one, wild card pick per person, which means something that technically still has a however vague two thousand twenty three attached to it, but no date specificity beyond that. And is probably maybe even definitely going to move, but it's a Hail Mary hype hurled today. We can each get one of us. We will hit some rapid fire honorable mentions at the end. Anything else on the rules front, Joe, that you want to clarify?

I will just say that Mallory and I, this is like a harder than usual draft for us, because of that everything is shifting around. We each, like, triple-checked our projects to see I had to bump a lot of things that, you know, were like, had already been moved. I triple-checked, and yet I am not ruling a real-time fact check from you about something I picked. Oh, yeah, likewise. We'll see. If I pick something, you're like, wait a minute.

But anyway, yeah, if we pick something and you guys are like, I heard from my cousin, who is the second AD on that, that is definitely not hitting its release date, You can let us know, but we're just operating up the best of information. Yeah. Yes. I did want to say, Joe, and I did want to ask you, mere days ago. Please. Wow.

Carlos. Mind meld because you just dropped in the Zoom chat exactly what I was going to mention here. Dune 2 is moving from November. It's like rubbing. Sand in the wounds. To march. Some of the rackus desert sand. right into the wound.

Is it fair to say that this would have been number one on your list? And if so, how has Dune's shifts and other shifts, like, impacted your general approach to this list? And you don't have to answer the would it have been number one if that might tip something about your list. But broadly, what sort of impact did that move have on your list? And anything else that you want to say about how you approach this overall this time? It might have been number two, but it would have been right up there. Interesting. Ooh.

You and I were, you and I were sort of like morning losing Dude 2 off the fall roster. And then we talked to yourself around. No, but then we talked to ourselves around being like excited about having that much more time. More time to reread. With the double episodes to reread to perhaps like do some some of our long promise like prophecy tropes course episodes. Something like that leading up. We're like, okay, this gives us so much more time to cover this in depth. Here's what we're prepared to promise you today.

by the time the June Messiah movie comes out, we will definitely be ready to the Prophecy Drove Scores episode. Will we? As early as March, you think? Okay. No, I'm going for the end of the trilogy, the end of the trilogy, you know? Oh, oh, oh.

Anything we do to beat it, yeah, is just we're over-promising. That is the responsible place to plant that flag. Under-promise, over-deliver, you know? If you have ideas about how we, we can break the prophecy trope up into, like, prophecy ethos tropes, etos, email us, hobbes and dragons at gmail.com. What are the sub-tropes of the trope of prophecy?

Let us know. You can do an entire pod on the idea of a sub-trop. Love this. Love this for us. Content to plenty. Content to bounds. Duna would have been my number one. I mean, that's the, I mean, the other thing is that, you know,

our lovely producer, Arjuna, was like, well, if you guys want to expand it out because, you know, the fall is too thin and you don't have enough to fill it out or whatever. We both had more than enough to put on here. So like, even with all the stuff that's moving, there's still a ton of content coming that we're really excited about. Absolutely. I'm really excited to dive into our list. I can't wait to hear what your number 10 is. But before I ask you for your number 10, I would like to introduce.

a new category. It is a separate special category. It is on its own, in a place of honor, where it belongs. This is the Joanna Robinson Fall Hype Meter Award. And it is for your book.

I would like to take a moment to remind everyone as we talk about Fall Hype that MCU, the reign of Marvel Studios, is hidden bookstores and bookshelves near you this fall, October 10th, Joe, Dan Gonzalez, Gavin Edwards,

get your pre-order in now, plan your book tour visit now. Get hyped now. I am dazzled. I did not know. Thank you so much. I did not know this is coming. Can I yes and that and say if you're in the L.A. area on October 9th, in and around somewhere-ish, the grove-ish area, the Barnes & Noble and the Grove. This is a pre-announcement. We haven't officially announced this, but if all goes according to plan, and who knows what may happen.

But Mallory Rubin and Jonah Robinson should be at the B&N and the Grove on Monday, October 9th to talk about this book. Our first live, like, appearance together. Mallory, what an honor. I hope you guys come.

Come see us. October 9th. Grove, L.A. There will be other tour announced. when it's coming. But that's a soft launch, I guess. Can we carve out some time for a maple bar at Bob's Donuts in the farmer's market? I have no idea what that is.

Sounds great. Yeah, wonderful. I will follow your lead. Is there a discussing apple? I just wanted to thank you for I assume you checked the MLB playoff schedule and you knew that there was not an American League playoff game that

night. I know that you checked. I wanted to say thanks. There is a man-al game. But not an A L game. Yeah, we have to pick a day where the American League is dark. And my publisher said, sure. We'll play the whole thing around it. It all makes sense. It tracks.

I don't think I miss the apple aside. Yeah, there's a delicious apple fritter. Delicious. Warm fruit. Your favorite. I will say, what's your number 10? We're rolling into, I mean, it's a fall.

It's a fall height meter. I know. Should we go? Should we go to an apple orchard at some point? That would be lovely. Should we go apple picking. Let's do it. Come up here.

We'll go up in like Sonoma. Okay. Sounds great. Number 10. Number 10 is my little weird one. Oh. Okay. Because 10 is a good spot for that, right?

And I wanted to pick something that I don't think we would cover on House of R, but we could. And it is the, as yet unmoved, off its December 8th release date, the upcoming Jorgos Melanthamos movie, Poor Things. Can I talk to you about this? All right. Please.

Yeah. So you're just lived the most who did the favorite and also the lobster and the lobsters. Like, again, like sort of in this territory. Absolutely. Poor Things is a surrealist science fantasy kind of story. It is, you know, highbrow, Oscar Bainty sort of film. But like, one best picture, everything everywhere all at once, which is definitely a ringer-verse house of our material. So why not put poor things on here?

Just just further celebrate. the spread of genre storytelling into all corners of our entertainment world. This is Emma Stone, Mark Ruffalo, Wilm Defoe. And it is about a woman who is brought back from the dead by a mad scientist essentially as she's a Victorian woman. And she's brought back into a world where, um, Victoria, outside of the Victorian era is my understanding. So that she's like, what is this?

Women can do more things now. Fuck you. I'm going to. live. So super weird. Cool. I love when Emma Stone gets weird, especially for Yergo Lathamos. So yeah, poor things. Supposed to come out December 8th, 2023. Again, we shall see if that moves. But this is fantastic. I love this pick. I love the energy that you're bringing today. I can't wait to see this film. I cannot wait to hear the rest of your list. And I would like to tell you now that we have gone in different directions because I brought the pure chalked

A. Perhaps unsurprisingly. No, no, I got a lot of meatballs down the middle here on the list. Absolutely. There's one of those. Baseball reference. Baseball reference. That's the one that Steve is constantly drilling into my head.

I got that one down. So a lot of meatballs down the middle here. But this is my, you know, what? Filet mignon. Starting with a little filet mignon. And then we will get into, you know, more populist cuts of beef. What's your number 10? My number 10

comes from a small independent studio just looking to make a mark on the world don't make fun of me for saying Yorgos Lantibos it's a

movie called the Marvels from the Marvel Cinematic Universe I got her higher you have it higher okay I figured you would so we will save this for wherever it is on your list. I can't wait to find out. Okay.

That brings us to your number nine. My number nine doesn't have a day release yet, but it has a month and it feels like very much a promise month, which is October. Okay. Okay. Last month of the year. It is the second season of a sort of cultly beloved television series, our flag. means death. Oh, great good. Are you in my flag means death head? I absolutely love this show. Yeah. Are you confident in the state? I was nervous about the... Well, the only reason I'm, I mean,

it's weird that doesn't have a day, but they did just do that big promo and Vanity Fair last week, and I don't think they would have done it last week if they hadn't had an assurance. Right. That being said, Empire definitely didn't put out a tune two cover with. Well, but like, Empire's June 2 cover. Like that's, that's a print magazine. They had like a long lead on that story.

Whereas like this is just the dot com for our flag means death. So, um, so yeah, it could move. But our flag means death season two. This is a,

this is a show that I really like. I don't like it's, it's nine because I don't love it with my like whole heart, but I really, really, really like it. I really, really, kind of like good omens.

I really like the fandom around it has a really solid fandom and like all the fan art and all the like edits and, and like people lost their minds over the new photos that popped up in VF last week. And so, you know, many drivers coming as Ann Bonnie. I love a pirate queen. So I don't know. Is pirate a genre? I don't know.

But it felt kind of, it felt how Safari, right? Our flag mean stuff? Yeah. I don't know if I would have thought of it that way on my own. This is part of why I love podcasting with you. always just opening my mind. I love this show. I love this pick. A seafaring adventure. This is, this is definitely eligible. Absolutely. Wonderful. And if folks haven't checked it out, again, it's like it's a, it's just a really good hang. It's like what? 10, 30 minutes episodes,

something like that, five hours. Zippy. Breezy. Yeah. Zippy as can be. Take away. It's actually, you know, it's part of our favorite genre, really, Joe, which is will this be covered on the ringerverse or prestige TV? Find out in real time. Enemies to lovers. Find out in real time. Great pick. Great pick. Excited for your wig watch commentary. Oh my God. Yeah. Tyca's wig on that show? Wonderful. I canography. Okay. My number nine. I am curious to see if this is on your list. I'm assuming not. But maybe

Maybe so. This is going to be a shared holiday experience for us. We'll be sending our holidays not only at the movies, but under the sea. For Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom on December 20th. I am guessing this is not on your list. I'm so excited that you put Aquaman on your list. Tell me why you put Aquaman on your list. I would love to.

Thank you. Thank you for the opportunity to do exactly that. If I didn't know you were a curry head, but now that I know, I will embrace myself for December. Okay. So obviously, we collectively,

as members of the DC viewing public are in a state of limbo. You never know what sort of experience you're heading into, not only in terms of the quality of the film, but how much stock should you put into something that predates the gunnissance, right? That is like a relic of a former age. I think that's valid.

Obviously, a lot of recent DC movies have drastically under-delivered. But Blue Beetle, the most recent release, Charming. Deeply charming, right? Charming. Wonderful. The first Aquaman movie, way back in 2018, this was one where I was like,

how has half of a decade gone by since the first Aquaman movie came out? Like, where is my life going? Sent me into a state of absolute existential crisis. But that's for another podcast. That movie famously made north of a billion dollars. And I thought, and perhaps you do not agree, that is maybe my sense. Wasn't she a delight? I love the first Aquaman movie.

Now, James Juan is back. He might say, okay, there was a period of time where this just, seemed like great, we're continuing our wonderful journey in the depths of Atlantis with our guy, Jason Mamoa, Arthur Curry, have you heard of him lad. Then you might say the trench spin-off scrapped, Lost Kingdom reshoots. Among the more highly publicized and infamous in recent cinematic history, you've got a movie with a budget north of 200 million with three rounds of reshoots. None of that is ideal. And I am willing to be. to concede that.

Maybe this will be a total mess. But I'm excited because I thought the first movie was so vibrant and weird and unapologetically itself in a way that a surprising superhero movie that kind of grips you out of nowhere can be. And I'm really, I'm looking forward to the movie, but I'm also like curious to see if that can be sustained. And then what role this slice of the canon has in the DCU moving forward? So I will be there.

I'll be there on December 20th. Looking forward to it. Tell me why this is not on your top 10. Once you hear one of my honorable mentions, I'm not going to be in a position to judge, but until then, I, no, I mean, I did not see Aquaman in the theater. I saw it at home on like a Friday afternoon

with some California legal substances, and I had a great time. It's like, do you want to, to know what it feels like to swim around inside a Lisa Frank trapper keeper. Here is if I got the film for you. So I had, I'm sorry, why isn't it on your top 10? I had a fun, fine time at the home cinema. I think every other thing I'm going to talk about is going to be better than Aquaman,

but it doesn't mean I won't have fun watching and talking about Aquaman with you. Great. So I'm excited. I'm content to settle for that response. response. Okay. I love it. Joanna Robinson. Here's something that I think you probably have higher. Okay. Coming out November, it is Invincible Season 2. I have this. I have this higher. Yes. Yes, I do. We will save it for them. We're on my number eight now. You're number eight. Okay. My number eight is the boy.

in the Heron, the Miyazaki movie. Yes. Perhaps his final movie. Okay. So how many times can we say perhaps his final movie? That's just, you know, that's part of the fun. I was wondering if you were going to allow me to pick this because it has already been released in Japan, but it has not been released stateside.

It has not been released internationally yet. The international premiere is set for a Toronto Film Festival in September, and I'm presuming, It still has it has 2003 for an international date for a U.S. date firmly attached and I am assuming

we will get any more specific date after the film festival. House of our listeners have heard this discussed on the pod before because Ben Limburg this was a key, key, key part

of Ben's hype draft at the time under the title, How Do You Live? Since renamed for the pending U.S. release. And Ben's hype draft

really took a blow with Dune Moving. There was some murmuring, mostly from you and your burners about did Ben actually have the best type draft? But, you know, here we are.

That was you. You were the one who were saying that. That was your... The movie... So, okay, I was going to say the movie looks beautiful,

but I think that's actually part of what we should talk about is like we don't know anything about the movie, even though it's already come out. And part of what was a burbling in real time ahead of the Japanese release, there wasn't going to be a trailer.

You weren't going to be able to find anything out about the plot of the film heading into it. Poster, date, enjoy what you're seeing when you sit down to see it. And I think that is just like incredible and thrilling. And yes, I say that as a person who once did a two and a half hour podcast

on a one minute, 30 second Spider-Man trailer. going frame by frame to try to figure out everything that was going to happen in a movie. That is generally how I'm inclined. But this idea of preserving the sanctity of the experience of seeing this for the first time, I just think sounds like so special. And so I'm excited to go into it that way here, even though, again, it's already out in Japan. It is an absolute sensation. Smash it in Japan.

It's already in the top 100 grossing films of all time. And I can't wait to see it and talk about it. I hope it sticks for 2023. I love this pick, and we should maybe tease lightly that it is our intention to do a Miyazaki-centric episode. You know, if you're looking for something to watch and you're like, oh, my, I have too many hours in the day. I could not possibly fill with all these other shows. Pick up some, Fall is a great time to get into Miyazaki, you know? Yes.

I feel like Paul is like a super cozy Miazaki time. I was looking at the, at that hype draft results that we did when you, Sean Ben and I drafted our hype picks. And I just want to point out that Sean has Alcamette in the Last Kingdom on his hype draft. So I hope you two, you two crazy curry heads go see that movie together, you know. I hope you enjoy it.

Mostly that would be like a wonderful welcome thing to hear. And then, you know, there's the voice in my mind or my mind. me that Sean picked Secret Invasion. So that doesn't vote super well. He really did. He also picked it. So you don't know. True. True. There's a, there's a widespread at all of our dress. But yeah, Ben really was looking like he was going to win it all until that dude move. Tough stuff. My turn? Your number seven. We're already at your seven, I believe. Astonishing. What are your app? I'm going to give you. I'm going to give you the acronym for this, and you're going to tell me if you have it higher.

T-C-F-T-W-O-J-W. Absolutely thrilled that you have this on here. I had it initially on my top 10, and then I did, I'll just spoil that I did wind up using my wild card pick. And so that was the one I subbed out, but it is my first honorable mention. It is my first just missed the cut pick. Let's talk about it. September 22nd, 2020, 23. Unless it moves, who knows, it is the Continental, colon,

from the world of John Wick. And if you, my friend, are one of the few, the happy few who get promo emails from Peacock, you will see that they have decided to make this into the most incomprehensible acronym for no reason when you could just call it the Continental. But you get emails and say T-C-C-W-J-W. Continental.

What's our sticking point on the Continental? We don't know why Mel Gibbs. is in this show. And it is our fond. Well, actually, I'm just going to speak for myself. I'm not going to slander anyone else in our group text on this podcast and just say, I'm hoping that Mel Gibson is in this show because he dies right at the beginning. It's this big surprise.

Oh, we've killed a major movie star. Otherwise, I don't know if I'll be able to hang with the Continental for all of his episodes if Mel Gibson is a major player. This is a real big question mark we have on the Continental. Yes. The Mel Gibson variable was a very. present one. She's

factor. So strange. Not only Mel Gibson's presence in the Continental but like so central

on the trailer, the still frame image on the trailer just very bizarre. It seems like he's probably the co-lead. And if so, that's not great.

And I'm probably not going to be hanging with it. But we love the world of John Wick. We do love the world of John Wick. The idea of a

Winston prequel, Like a prequel centered on Young Winston is very intrigued. Great idea. Very intriguing. Great idea. So we shall see what happens there. But I am hoping that this is a really good time. Yeah.

Me too. And that is why it is here. Fall hype meter is about hype and hope. So it is my hope and my hype that this is just a really, really great time on the old streaming platform peak. But if not, you know, I've had things that I've regretted more on previous hype meters. So, Cowboy Bebop, let's roll forward. I also really hope that the Continental is good.

I'm looking forward to it. I find the three episode size of this experience to be absolutely fascinating. Very fascinating. Very intriguing. I'm really, I'm really interested to see how it feels. Okay. My number seven is. When I mentioned bought in the intro, you threw me eyes.

So I don't know if that means this isn't on your list. We'll find out. In a mere moments, Gen V. Is not on my list. Okay. But it's in my honorable mentions. Yes. This is kind of what I thought would happen.

The overall set, maybe with a couple exceptions, would be the same. And we'd have some in the top 10 that were in honorable mentions for the other. Okay. September 29th, we will begin a new journey. We will take our, not first, because we did have The Boys Presents Diabolical in March of 2020, but second step into a larger Boys world. The Boys Expanded Universe is here,

and I'm into it. I am, I love the Boys. It's one of my favorite shows. So I'm excited to spend more time in this world. I am also fascinated to see. see and our buddy, our pal, our colleague, everyone's favorite Instagram reels and TikTok video explainer, Ben Lindberg, wrote about this in his piece on the ringer.com, what a great website when he was writing about the season three finale of the boys, like this question of

how a story that was built in part to critique superhero IP handles becoming more of a franchise the spawner itself. So that's top of mind for me. I think I'm really interested to see how that feels, but I thought that the trailer looked great. Astonishingly violent trailer, even by the standards of the boys

and red band trailers. I would like jaw on the floor and then probably there was literally a jaw on the floor in the trailer at some point. The premise of this seems wonderful. Soups go to college. and partake in hunger games.

It's me or you buddy experience together. I have no notes. Candidly, I have no notes on the premise. Does that mean Hunger Games, something with snakes is not on your height meter? Joanna, as our beloved river would say, spoilers. The Instagram, the social media account for the show, put out this fun little mashup video of little snippets, little soundbites from the cast teasing the show. And one of the members of the cast, Chance Fordomo said in the announcement video,

it's fucked up. You're going to like it. And I'm solved. I'm solved. So are you looking forward to Gen V? Why is Gen V not on your list? Where are you on Gen V overall? Tell me.

Oh, yeah. I'm looking forward to it. I always get a little wary about spending. office of shows. I mean, I guess I should have saved that energy for the continental colon from the world of John Wick. But like, you know, just because like something spins off from something you love doesn't mean the original creators are the drivers behind it, you know. So it's a real, not technically a wild card the way that we meet it on this draft, but, you know, a bit of a wild card. So yeah, GenVie was on my list and then I got bumped off for some

other things like, you know, a Yorgo's Lanthomas movie. That's fine. But yeah, I'm interested. Of course. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Fantastic. I can't wait to discuss the soups with you. Genuinely looking forward to it. I'm so excited that, like, the fact that we're going twice a week means we get to talk about. I know. We've got to talk about so many things. I know. It's just absolutely. Absolutely thrilling. What's number six? Tell me. When are you got? When you were talking about a cinematic masterpiece that will be Aquaman in the Lost Kingdom and you said, this is how we'd be spending our holidays together, I thought you were talking about this.

which is Percy Jackson. This is your number six? This is my number six. Wonderful. Wonderful. Kismet. My goodness. Just kiss. I mean, it's literally a pod where we are counting down the things we're most excited about.

And I am responding in real time. Like, it is the greatest miracle in the history of creation that we have a shared title at a shared spot, which is like a totally normal thing that absolutely I should have anticipated. And yet, I can barely contain my glee. that we've been like talking about a lot together as we read the book recently. We read the book over the summer and we enjoyed it. The first book, I need to check in with a friend of mine. I was telling Mal to see how many of the Percy Jackson books we should read before we,

a good friend of my wrote on the show. And so I'm going to ask her what we should read before because she's, I mean, she's been getting me hype for the person's Jackson show forever because this is my friend. I'm just going to tell the story. My friend Daphne, who used to host a Black Sales podcast and became such good friends with the creator of Black Sales, the creators of Black Sales through that podcast that when they started working on other shows, they were like, hey, Daff, want to come and work in our writer's room.

And I just think that is incredible stuff. So they did the old man with Jeff Bridges on FX. And now they're doing Percy Jackson. So Daphne, who is like the Queen of Mythology, has been working on Percy Jackson is just like a perfect job for her. So I've been like so thrilled to watch her journey from podcaster to TV writer. My personal feelings aside, Percy Jackson is a wildly beloved, you know, kids book series that my nephew is currently obsessed with. He loves all things Rick Rorden. And so that makes me excited to think about having something to share with him.

and we had just had a lot of our listeners talk about how they grew up on Percy Jackson. They loved Percy Jackson. It has a moderately liked, not very well-liked, kind of liked earlier attempt at a film series, and now it has moved into... Some would say despised, and by some, I mean the creator of this fictional world, too.

Yeah, Rick... Really... But, like... Yes. My understanding is that, like, some kids did latch on to, like, Logan Lerman as Percy Jackson. Anyway, whatever you're referring to, feelings about the original film. This is much closer to what Rick

Jordan actually wanted. I believe he's working very closely on this property on Disney Plus. If it goes, I mean, they're going to have to race against time with those kids. It's like a stranger thing. Race against time with those kids. So maybe the studio should settle the actors and writer's strike. But, you know, we'll get season after season after season with these kids because there's a ton of books to cover. You and I love mythology. We love Greek mythology very specifically. So this is going to be

really fun. Another friend of the pod is in this show we should say, but anyway, December 20th. Jason Manzukus. Mr. D. Jason Manzikas. Get to hang out at Camp Halfwood with Zook? I mean, what a dream.

What a dream. I am really looking forward to the show. I was excited to hear about the show before having read the book, but now that we have read the first book and fallen into the world, I am really looking forward to this.

I love the first book. And I have not read beyond that yet, but I am very much looking forward to doing so. A hero's fate is never happy. Quote, quote from book one there. Like, that's just extremely our shit. And you pair that in the coming of age aspects and the quest. And this question of where you find community and belonging and acceptance.

and how you were able to surround yourself with people who can help you embrace who you are and discover who you're meant to be. It's just checking a lot of boxes. And to the mythology point, I had so much fun reading the first book, not only because it's a really propulsive, charming, witty, well-paced,

and structured and written tale with instantly winning characters, but it's like so many opportunities as you go, to dive back into something from mythology that you loved learning about long ago and have an excuse to spend a little bit more time reading up on your favorite gods. So that was all just really fun and wonderful.

The cast is tremendous. Jay Duplas is Hades. I say I have no notes a lot, but this is the new, like, this is what I mean when I say I have no notes. Fantastic. So I'm really excited. about this. Eight episodes. Can't wait. I'm really excited. And Walker Scobal, who plays a young

person Jackson, who was in a not very good, I thought, Ryan Reynolds movie, but was good in it as a young Ryan Reynolds. And so I'm really excited for his future. I thought he was tremendous in a not very good movie. And so I'm excited to see him in something that is hopefully actually good. The whole cast was great. I'm hyped. I'm hyped. Oh, yeah. I'm thrilled. What's next for you? What's your number five? This is where I have the marbles. Okay.

Oh, okay. Great. Let's do it. Hit me. So, yeah. So it was November 10th, 20203. That is this year, this fall, fall height meter. Yeah.

Delayed already. Hopefully not delayed again. But who's to say what will happen? But, you know, we don't know. This is the one that I'm like maybe the most worried it's going to move on my list. Interesting. But I am like, I don't want to say bizarre. I think people forget

Captain Marvel has garnered this weird reputation and I'm not even saying this is a knee-jerk like defending the female fronted properties from Marvel. People forget that that movie was actually quite popular.

Like if you go look at the various Scores Cinema score, all this stuff like well like highly rated made a ton of money. Like people went back to see it again and again. It was a smash it

and well liked. And I think, I think I will agree that Carol Danvers has had a harder time folding into the larger MCU, like hasn't become a core figure in a way, I think that they maybe hoped she would. But I think people misremember what Captain Marvel was in terms of how people felt about it.

And then if you, when you add these other characters into the mix and when you deliver what seems to be like a really fun sort of body swapping, comedy of, you know, friendship and mentorship and like some hijinks are also involved. You know, I'm, I am really excited. Imond Volani in Miss Marvel is one of my favorite, like, new actors on the scene to spend time with. You and I covered Miss Marvel, not every single episode, but over on the Ring of and we like no matter how you feel about some stuff that happened at the end of Miss Marvel and I do have some questions

I just found her so perfect and charming and like nothing nothing that was bumpy about that show stuck to her I thought she was incredible and so like the potential chemistry between these three leads um is really excited I mean I just think it looks really fun and I've been sort of in since the first trailer I know it's had reshoots every Marvel movie has reshoots. It's not on Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom level of reshoots. And I am, the only thing I'm, like, worried about, the only reason it's like a little lower than it might be are like two things. One, obviously, are the MCU sort of inconsistent track record recently. And then number two, the timeline with secret invasion. I'm not, you know, things moved around and swapped places. And it always gets a little complicated story-wise in the MCU when you have like Nick Fury's

in this movie and he's back in space. And so what does it mean that secret invasion happened before? You know, so there might be some plot muddling and I hope that they have figured out a way to, sometimes the MCU can smooth over that so we don't even notice the bumps. And I'm hoping that's the case here. But we shall see, Mal, tell me about your feelings about the marbles. Yes, I am excited for this movie. I think that your points about looking, back at Captain Marvel and trying to remember and re-contextualized

what that experience was like in real time. I mean, I always think about that movie what an impossible task it had coming out between Infinity Moore and Endgame. And, you know, the Marvels, it's not the same thing, obviously. In fact, it's like almost the opposite end of the spectrum in terms of where the fan base is.

But I think this movie also has an unfair burden on its shoulders in terms of what is happening elsewhere in the MCU and what people are going to then bring to their anticipation for this film or their read on the film as a result. I think to your secret invasion point, I am, I will say I am concerned about that. Like, it's hard coming off of secret invasion to not be worried about that. But you already mentioned Captain Marvel. You mentioned Miss Marvel.

Wanda Vision, like the other stories in the MCU that this show has deep connective tissue to are things that we love. Tiana Paris was like was so fabulous. Just like a blast in Wanda Vision. Fabulous.

So getting to be back with Monica Rambo, getting to be back with Miss Marvel, Captain Marvel. My beloved Flurkins, a society of Florkins preacher prominently

in all of the trailers and marketing material, thrilling. And in terms of that trio, I feel, I feel similarly, like, what you said, this bond among the characters and the blend of that being, yes, on the one hand,

about the literal shared power, right, and the weight of that, and this link and the swapping and how that tethers and ties them to each other. But much more than that, like the blend of adoration and baggage, because you have, like, Monica loving Carol and that history and that richness of that bond. And then the resentment that, like, festered over time. Like, what is that going to look like for them now? And then you have Kamala idolizing Carol and plastering her room with, with pictures. And she's a, she's a, like a fan girl, right? And so she's this, like, great avatar for us who then gets to, like, live this dream and experience next to the person she worshiped, like, working alongside. That's just such a fun thing. And I can't wait to see what that dynamic is

like. So I'm really looking forward to the movie and I hope I hope that people give it a fair chance and like consider it on its own merits. I will say the really bad faith critique that I, you know, that was going around about Captain Marvel this whole like, you know, Smile Moore bullshit that was happening around Carol Danvers. We have been having this conversation around Assoca of this like, this idea of the stoic character. And I am not saying the stoic character is bad. The stoic character just need something to bounce off of. So if you, in the trailer, when you have Brie Larson, who is so talented, playing Carol Danvers still is stoic, but like baffled and bumping up against Kamala's like over-the-top

infectious boisterous energy, that is a recipe for delight. You know what I mean? Like, you don't need to change anything about Carol Danvers, but when you put her in the right cocktail, then all of a sudden you're just having like the best time. And I, and it already seems to me like Brie Larson, I mean, Brilarsen is having her own mixed ideas about what it means to play Carol Danvers. But it seems like, I mean, she's always been good acting opposite kids is what she won an Oscar for. And also I just, I recently rewatched one of my favorite film sequences of all time, which is her performance of Black Shape and Scott Pilgrim. And I'm just like,

Prey Larson is so incredible. And I'm just so excited to see her do something with just like a lot of like movement and excitement and possible like zaniness. You know, zaniness calibrated correctly throws me. So the marvels. Number five. Love it. Love it. Okay.

My number five is the creator. Not on my list. Not on your list. Okay. This is a film coming out September. 29th, so it's August 29th. I assume at this point this movie is not moving and will in fact come out

next month. This is directed by Gareth Edwards. It is being positioned as from the director of Rogue Juan, which I find to be like fascinating and obviously layered.

You can watch a little you can watch a little featurette on the ILM YouTube page with Edwards about the movie and he describes it as Vietnam movie mixed with robotic sci-fi. The cast is incredible. John David Washington

Gemma Chan, Ken Wadinebe, Alice in Jenny, etc., etc. The Sergill Simpson-Aissance is upon us coming off a frankly astounding role in season three righteous gemstones. No word yet on whether there will be a musical number. in the creator. Somehow, I don't, I don't anticipate it, but we'll see.

Feature prominently and Killers of the Flower Moon also. It really is. Sturgle season. Yeah. It is Serial season, exactly. Here's why this is on my list. Two reasons. One, I thought the, I think both of the trailers so far have looked really good. I'm excited to see the movie. Beyond even the movie itself, I am excited to get an original sci-fi story. and it is hitting a lot of beats and tropes and storytelling staples that are familiar to us, but what is this film's particular spin on that? What is Gareth Edwards interested in exploring

inside of a humans versus AI tale? I'm basically always interested in a humans versus AI story, consciousness, humanity, connection, purpose. You know, Joe, this is just going to slide right into our, ongoing discussion of our robots people in the house of our through line. Can't wait. I think it looks very visually arresting and thematically,

you know, quite rich. So I'm intrigued. I'm interested to see the movie. I really hope it's a good one. That would be really fun. We should do a our robots, humans trip's course. I think. Tears in the rain. Yeah. I mean,

oh, you want me to talk about Blade Runner and Battlestar Galactica? Twist my arm right out of its joint. Because if I were a sylon, you wouldn't fucking know it. Joanna Robinson. Number four? What's your number four? Settling Malayrubin, this is my smuggopalooza, aka books.

It's House of Reeds time. Yes. Okay. We're doing books. I was counting on this. Let's do it. To be clear, I've not read any of these books. This is a hype meter.

so I'm not recommending these books having read them. I am telling you that I have some hype for them. And these are based on, these are all authors or series that I'm interested in. Alex E. Harrow, who wrote the 10,000 doors of January and the Once of Future Witches. I love the One of Future Witches. Yeah.

Read 10,000. I really recommend 10,000 doors of January. I think you're going to love that one too. Her new book, Starling House, comes out on my birthday, October 3rd. is described as a cozy little gothic horror. So maybe that one's not for you, Mallory. But 10,000 doors of January is very much your shit. I think you would love that.

But Alex E. Hero, I would read. At this point, I will read anything that Alex E. Harrow, right? V. E. Schwab, known for the vicious and vengeful and shades of magic trilogy. The Invisible Life of Adi LaRue, which I, like, could not put down as soon as I picked up, has a new book coming out called The Fragile Threads of. power September 26th, 2023. B. Schwab's another

author at this point. I will read anything that she writes. I will just be interested to know what she is up to. Again, I have not read this one yet, though I'm like working on getting my hands on an arc if I can and I will report back. You heard me on best of the year

pod talk about, I had just sort of devoured Rebecca Yaros's book, Fourth Wing, which was like extremely, extremely, extremely popular. I had like sort of mixed things to say about it. That doesn't mean I am not going to immediately read and devour part two, which is coming out in November. And this is, we talked about this a little bit on the best of the year pod, but this is a new publishing trend where, you know, an author will

get a book deal for multiple books in a series at once and write them sort of altogether. And so release them very, in a very short span next to each other. And it is like, sort of like a, those like mixed binge drops that they do where they'll like drop three episodes and then sort of like go week to week after that or something like that. It's like sort of a mini-bidge hook you into the series kind of thing. So Iron Flame, which is the second book, the sequel to Fourth Wing, which just came out a couple months ago, is coming out November 7th. And then last, but not, no, no, two more, two more.

Should they do that with Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring? Just get them. I'm so glad you mentioned Georgia R. Martin because when the last George R. Martin book came out, when was that, 2015? Is that when Dance of Dragons came out? Something like that. That is when the last full Patrick Rothfuss novel came out.

We have been waiting for book three. Book three is not coming. Calm down. Everyone, everyone calm down. But. Oh, my goodness. I was like, there's no way Lemberg wouldn't have bombarded me

with updates about this. No chance. Dance was 2011, Joanna. It is 2020. Jesus. Jesus Christ. Okay, but that's when the second, Patrick Rathus.

We've been waiting just as long for book three in that series. But he has a novella coming out. I don't know if he's calling it a novella. It's 240 pages called The Narrow Road Between Desires. And it is set in the universe. It is about my personal, I know, my personal boyfriend in the series Bast. Baste, to I'm obsessed with, Kvoth's Apprentice.

So it's 240 pages. That's 70 pages longer than the last novella, which came out in 2014, called the Slow Regard of Silent Things. When the slow regard of silent things came out in 2014, everyone's like, what the fuck? What the fuck is this? They were like, where's the book? We want the book. Where is it?

But then it's beloved. They didn't know. Yeah. This is just very reminiscent of George putting out fire and blood instead of wins. And everyone's like, how dare you? And then they read fire and blood and they're like, can't put it down. I think they didn't know then how long they had yet to wait. And so now people are like, bless you.

Cherish every morsel. Yeah. And so now the narrow road between desires is. coming out another another something to amuse your bouch as you wait for the third film which is the third book which is definitely someday coming out patrick graphus maybe last and not least speaking of people who have the opposite of writer's block it is brando sando himself who has already had three books come out this year and in his fourth book this year is secret project number four and i was reading some goodread reads reviews it doesn't have a title yet secret project number

before. I was reading some reviews from Goodreads reviewers who had like beta the project. And it's a, I don't know that I can dive into this one because I being told it is a true quote-unquote Cosmere story, like really, really deep in his universe. You have to know

everything to know it. So like as opposed to Tress of the Emerald Sea, which was like a really good intro, this is for like more advanced Brando Sando readers. But October 1st is when that comes out, November 14th, the narrow road between desires, September 26. the fragile threads of power v e schweb October 3rd, my birthday,

Starling House by Alex E. Harrow and November 7th, Iron Flame, the sequel to fourth win by Rebecca Aros. This has been House of Reeds hype 2023 fall. Fabulous. Fabulous. What a bountiful reading season. Awaits.

My goodness. I'm sure there are secret gemstones that I, you know, we will not see coming. But these are the ones that we can sort of have some predictable anticipation for. So tremendous. I love it. I can envision in our brick and mortar, House of Reads, the table, the feature table with all of these curated by your hand for the fall.

My number four is my wild card. This is my, does it, is there a way I can really say that this is going to come out in 2023? will we be retiring the Sandman bit from the 2021 fall heat meter in future pods to instead talk about this moment in time where I allowed myself to believe that this television program would be airing in this calendar year possibly. And yet, until someone tells me otherwise, someone at Lucasfilm, someone at Disney, I will allow myself to hang on to a thread of hope that we will be getting Skeleton Crew. this year. This is also my wild card and then I wound up bumping it but like this was going to be my wild card picked too. And this was the one that I was like, I cannot justify putting it on. And then at the last minute I was like, here's the thing. I can't justify by not putting it on. It's also, I will say four is the absolute highest I can allow myself to put a wild card. I believe

I've previously put a wild card as high as three. And it's that's maybe a defensible. If we knew definitively that skeleton crew coming out this year, I would have this even higher, though. So that's how excited we are for skeleton crew. Oh, we're so excited for this. We're just, our hype is, we can't even contain it. It's lost in the galaxy. This would be two or three for me if, uh, same. Space Zaddy, Jude law.

Yes. Puppets. I'm sorry, this is your entry. Please go. No, it's a shared path. of ours. Let's talk about it together. Announced for 2023, hasn't moved. I think it's the kind of thing that, like, look, there's no specific date yet, and are they

going to want to put out this show when Jude Law can't talk about it? Like, probably not. Maybe not. Probably not. But we know that the premise is it's stranger things in space, right? So it's Jude Law and four youngsters who have gotten lost in space. I am unwilling currently. We have only seen the first two episodes of Asoka,

but we know this show, Skeleton crew is going to take place. It's part of the Mandoverse. So it's a contemporary timeline with Mando, Boba, Soca, et cetera. I'm unwilling to eliminate from the consideration set that at some point, while our heroes and Asoka are flying around on their searching quest, they pass this crew, even if it's just for a second,

and then we get a date after that. Unwilling. Now, here's the other thing I will say. I feel, I do not know this to be true. I'm basing this on quite literally nothing. Nothing. Yeah, vibes only. I feel like Percy slid into this spot.

I feel like that December 20th was supposed to be Skeleton Crew. Because the Percy date was announced really recently in the teaser trailer from like a couple weeks ago. I feel like this is where this show was supposed to go and Percy moved in. Last week.

Yeah, I think that's probably right. And like, I think, you know, if the accolite isn't done and we were talking, we were kind of going through like what's being delayed on the Marvel TV front, like they just might really need

want to save this for next year. Possibly. Yeah. Yeah. But what if we got it? Oh my God. Diana. A coming of age, quirky tale set in the Mandoverse. Absolutely. Jude Law in Space Wizard robe slash leather jacket and scarves realm. Absolutely. John Watts doing like Spider-Man homecoming on a starship. Absolutely. The directing lineup for this? Yes. Yes.

Hit me. The Daniels. Your, like, literal favorite, David Lowry? My literal favorite. Jack Shire. Lee Isaac Chung. Bryce Dallas Howard. I mean, this is a murderer's row

about you heard of them, lads. Like, this is just thrilling. I cannot wait to see the show. I cannot wait. I will wait patiently, but I also cannot wait. Stranger Things, but also, like, the things that inspire Stranger Things, Goonies,

flight of the Navigator. like all this cool stuff. It's like, and they're supposed to be just like Poppets galore. I've heard good things from people who have seen like rough cuts of it.

I haven't seen any of it but I'm just... Oh, God, right? I mean, yeah. We've just fallen in love with the Lothcat puppet after two episodes of a stokeet Pulpets galore is like

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Nass Energy Grand Prix Guava. Hit the street. Grab a can and get after it. I think we're at the top three already. That's unbelievable. How did we get here so quickly? Do you, I know we don't have the same top three, but do you think we have the same top two? I think we probably, if we don't, then something has happened on somebody's list. That's what I would say. Someone forgot something obvious. Okay. My number three, I am

fairly certain you don't have. Oh, yeah, because you still have to do invincible. Okay, I think I know what the rest of the list is. All right. Number three, I'm pretty sure you don't have because you don't like horror. That's great. I support you in that.

Every time Mike Flanagan has a project coming out and I'll put it on a list, even though it bites me in the ass as much as it doesn't. This is follow the House of Usher from Mike Flanagan over on Netflix, October 12th. So Mike Flanagan has done a variety of things with his like annual Halloween entries

over on Netflix, these various series. And the haunting of Lye Manor and the haunting of Hill House both served as sort of like quasi anthologies for beloved authors who work in the spooky realms.

And that's what the Fall of the House of Usher is going to be. It's going to be, there's loosely the plot of the Fall of the House of Usher, which is Edgar Alan Poe, but also what he's going to do is mix in a bunch of other Edgar Allan Poe stories into the mix, similar to what they did with The Haunting of Blind Manor. You've got the gang's all here. The Flanagan crew is all here. Carla Gugino is here. Bruce Greenwood is here.

Zach Guilford is here. Mary MacDonald, Your Beloved, is here. Carl Lumley, Raul Coley, Kate Siegel, Henry Thomas, Mark Hamill, have you heard of him, Annabeth Gish. Like, incredible cast. Incredible cast as per yous from Mike Flanagan. When Flanagan hits, the one that I picked last year did not hit. But when Flanagan hits, it's some of my favorite fucking stuff, and I will rewatch it endlessly. So I'm really hoping this is true for Fall of the House Usher.

I'm really hoping it doesn't move off of October 12th. And I'm really excited. I love it, Edgar Allan Poe, so I'm really excited to. What I love, like, especially what he did with The Haunting of Bligh Manor, is there would just be like little almost Easter egg seeded into stories of like little half snatches from like other stories here and there to supplement the turn of the screw, which was the core plot of that one. And so I'm just like really excited because then you get to play like Edgar Allan Poe,

literary detective while you're watching it, which sounds really fun to me. And I'm excited for Mark Campbell to join the Flanaganverse. And this all started with Mike Flanagan as like sort of modern horror king all started with Gerald's game, an adaptation of Steen King's story that he did with Carly Gagenao and Bruce Greenwood. So to bring them back as the co-leads of this also. makes me really excited. So I've been hurt before,

but don't hurt me this time, Mike Flanagan. It's fall in the house washer. Okay. Compelling case. Compelling case. I don't think I can handle the horror of a Flanagan. I don't think I can handle it, but I will say Edgar Allan Poe

literary detective is very appealing to me. Very appealing. I'll watch it if it's, I know, I think I know by now it's too scary for you. You know, I get worried sometimes when you watch certain episodes of television. So, you know. I have found myself like made of sterner stuff recently.

But I don't know where the limit is. Maybe we'll find out. Okay. My number three is invincible. Hit me. November 3rd, 2000, 23. We will not have Dune on November 3rd, but we will have part one of Invincible Season. Do.

Will we also be watching the Orioles in Game 6 of the World Series? I'm counting on it. Folks, I'm counting on it. As you know, I have multiple televisions in my living room. Invincible one of the keys. Oh. I've only ever seen, next time you record something on your screen to send me. Yeah, send me the side screen.

I'll have the second screen in there. It's for sports, you know. Got to have on an NFL Sunday. I can't be. limited to one screen, even if it is 75 inches. So Adam and I were actually just talking about putting a third TV in for the fall because of football and then the, I'm so invested in the baseball most season. I mean, simply cannot miss a pitch. So this is, I can't, okay, I can't make fun of you for this because this is literally your job. Yeah. And it answers a lot of questions for me

as to like how you can watch all the things you watch. But it does remind me, first of all, shout out a reference you're not going to get yet, but you will soon when I make you watch Barbie, which is Mojo. This real Mojo Dojo Casa House Energy for you to have. I know you can't. I know you can't. It won't be forcing. When we find, when we clear your schedule enough. Yes. When I returned to the theater at last. And number two, the reason I say Mojo Dojo Casa House Energy is like when I, the guy dated in college, he and all like all the guys that they lived with, they had three TVs in their room. And it was like one was always running sports. One was always running. video games. And one was always running like South Park or something like that. It was just like a constant three screen experience in their living room. So like, but those were like shitty like, you know, weird funky TV. You have like, I'm sure a beautiful elegant setup and I am so excited to see it in all its splendor.

You know, there are just a lot of football games on at once. Got to track them all. I support it. Joanna. Season two. Part one. Invincible. I will not have a second screen going when I am watching Invincible.

Hopefully we'll be getting screeners and can watch it before a game six of the world series. Invincible. You know, some might know it as the key to my 2020-House of Our Hyped Draft victory, so I just wouldn't dare abandon it now. I wouldn't dare abandon it now. At San Diego Comic-Con, we got a bounty of Invincible Reveals. We got a release date. We got a teaser trailer. We got a surprise drop. It was like we were there on the sneakers app for a shock drop.

Only on Amazon Prime with television. We got Invincible Adam Weath, an origin story episode, exciting to think about what other episodes we might get that further expands the character set focus. Kirkman has said that he wants to do more episodes like that. There's a collider piece about that. And it has been, not quite as long of a wait as it has been for Arothus or Martindale. To be clear, it's all relative, folks. But it has been... 2011. Two in a half years since Invincible Season 1. Invincible Season 1 premiered in March of 2021. It was one of the very first things that we covered on the Ringerverse. In the trailer, I'd love to the trailer opened with that little wink to the audience. For some of you, it probably seemed like this day would never come. I like that they're leaning in. So they're doing this split season. First four episodes, it's an eight episode season, once again. The first four, it sounds like, are coming out.

on November 3rd. And then the second half of the season is coming out next year, 2004. So what will that feel like? I don't know, but I'm really eager to be back in this world.

I thought season one was like incredible. It was one of my favorite shows of 2021, just a total surprise and a joy. I like many people who were discovering the universe in real time for the first time dipped into the Robert Kirkman comics

after watching the first couple episodes and really enjoyed reading the comics. Omneman versus Mark Nolan comparing Debbie to a pet I mean that like hard R violence this coming of age superhero tale that is just absolutely saturated and drenched in blood

and the fucked up family mantle passing rejection legacy do you want the powers you have what do you do with that power when you have it it's very much like a la the boys in terms of this welcome panacea to so much of the glut of superhero culture, right? I think that's part of why a lot of fans really liked it.

But also just because the quality was so high, the cast is tremendous, the animation is tremendous, the story arcs are riveting. Mark working through what happened with his dad and seeing that journey for Mark in season two is something I'm really looking forward to. The already fucking loaded cast has somehow gotten even more astonishing. If you have not yet watched the trailer, watch it because it's great. But pause on the final card of the trailer where you get to see the new members of the cast who have joined for season one. And it's just like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

Unbelievable. Like, Brown is joining this cast. I just, I can't wait. I'm really excited. I love the show. I can't wait to be back. And I am anticipating it being excellent. I don't think we have any reason to believe that it won't be.

What are your thoughts on Invincible Season 2, Part 1? I couldn't have said about it myself. Just want to single out. Stephen Young is like one of my favorite people and literally anything he ever does. So I love him. And J.K. Simmons, of course, also incredible. And I think that I just in general respond really well to like what Seth Rogan and his producing partner, Evan Goldberg, have done in the realm of like expanded comic book outside the core. or use, you know, comic book properties.

So anytime their name is on something, I'm going to be interested to watch it. You're a little higher on this show in general than I am, but I'm excited. We haven't had a chance to cover it together. And usually when you're really, really, like, more excited about something than I am, then, like, I enjoy it more than I would otherwise.

So I'm excited for you to, like, bring me up to your level for season two. I had part one. I can't wait to watch it together and talk about it together. Are you a preacher head for your, Rogan and Goldberg comment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I really liked pretty sure. Fun one.

Okay, we've arrived at the top two. I feel certainly have the same two. I would be standard if we don't order. Do you think we have them in a different order? That is my prediction. Right? Probably.

But we'll find out right now. But close. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

My number two, which I think is your number one, is coming out on October 6th. And it is Loki season two. Yes. Let's just talk about it right now and save the reveal of my number two and your number one. Because again, these are really one and one B. Let's talk about Loki. Tell me, tell me why you're excited for season two of Loki.

I mean, we love Loki. We love it so goddamn much. And there's a real like Mandela effect going on where people remember us covering this show together, but we didn't cover this show together. We covered the show separately. We did one episode. You guessed it on one episode of Ring orverse. And so maybe it feels like we. And I think it just comes up basically constantly on our pod. This is like, this is a few months before we became a dynamic duo with season one. So we haven't had a chance to recover. Diet and the fourth season together. So I'm excited to force diet our way through season two. This has been one of our most anticipated since we found out there was going to be a season two, which was like directly after. or Loki Season 1 essentially. This show, this story,

we love Loki in general. We love Tom Hiddleston as Loki. We love this, like, all this space to explore this character. This character type we like so much, this character on a major arc. We've got a self-love enemies to lovers situation with Loki and Sylvie. We've got the, you know,

investigative partner friends to end all investigative partner friends and Mobius and Loki my absolute favorites we love this show I will do a small asterist to say like Mal and I like had a pre-chat about the fact that

whatever is going on with Don of Majors right now has like it introduces like a small storm cloud over this project I'll just speak for myself for me and but you know it's it doesn't change the fact that it is very high on our anticipation. Sort of similar to Mel Gibson's. Like, I'm curious to find out exactly how heavily involved Jonathan Majors is in this project.

Because there, I think there could be a version of this season where he's in like every episode. We've already seen a teaser of it at the end of Guardians. There's like a way in which, or, yeah, man. There's already a way in which he could, you know, he could be in every episode everywhere. or it could just be like a very small part. I don't know. I don't know how that will impact my enjoyment. We're going to have to grapple with that in real time.

But it's still something that we are, or I will say, I am like heavily emotionally invested in this show in this character's journey and I'm really curious to see what happens next. It's not uncomplicated, but it is not like, I'm not pretending this show doesn't exist or doesn't matter to me.

Mallory, what do you want to say about? Lo-key. Yeah, my number one, my most anticipated show of the rest of the year. October 6th, so we're moving back to Fridays. And of course, Loki was the show that sparked the move to Wednesdays, right? They love to fuck with the schedule for Loki. God of Mischief, indeed. The premiere of Loki Season 2 is the same week.

If nothing moves, if nothing changes. as the Osoka finale. This is just peak season for House of R. This is peak season for House of R. What will the total runtime on the feed be that week? Stephen Carlos simply shudder to think. And then my book comes out. Like, I think we're recording the Loki premiere deep dive

the same day we will be later on at the Grove in, you know, at the barn. Will we record together in person? Sounds like it. Sounds like it's me. Joy. Fantastic. Should we have some like fluorescent green key lime pie and like sit in a TVA cafeteria like Mobius and Loki?

Should we just really lean? Or should we, we could go to McDonald's. We could record from McDonald's because Sylvia is featured prominently in McDonald's in the, in the trailer. Wonderful. We have a lot of options to consider. I would take key lime pie over over a McNugget any day personally. Why not both? Savory and then sweet.

Delicious. Sounds like a well-balanced, excellent meal to me. Season one of Loki was my favorite part of phase four. That's my favorite thing in phase four. And so I think that this show, the guys,

the Midnight Boys talked about this when they talked about the trailer on Ringiverse. After the trailer came out a few weeks ago, the show has like an incredible weight on its shoulders. Like a lot, it feels like a lot of the conversation around not only where is phase five, but where is the multiverse saga? Like, where is the MCU hinges on how people feel about Loki season two?

We don't know what Loki season two is going to be. Like I guess what I would say is there's not a property in the MCU that I feel more confident in saying, like, it can measure up to what is needed in that moment. Season one was just so sublime, and I am really excited to be back with the characters. You know, you just spoke thoughtfully and well about the Jonathan Major's factor, and, you know, we'll continue to discuss that, obviously, in the run-up to the show, and as we cover the show. we should note that Eric Martin has moved into the headwriter role for season two Natalie Holt once again composing

just a banger score. Justin Benson and Aaron Moorhead, who we discussed their work when we covered Moonnight. They're like spearheading the directing charge for season two. Friend of the Pod, cherished friend of the pod, Michael Waldron, always welcome in the TVA with us at any point in time. Let's just say that.

I thought the trailer, you know, on the, on the majors front, like I was interested to see, because the Victor Timely seen the stinger from Quantumania, this is kind of what we meant by spoilers for things elsewhere. And, you know, that's the singer of Quantumania. It was interesting to see that that was in the trailer, right? I thought that the trailer overall was excellent.

I think the show looks great. Loki's ongoing maturation, like I love the show, love the character, and his ongoing maturation is one of the single most interesting areas of focus in the entire MCU now

into phase five. How do you choose who lives and who dies? Like hearing him say that at the end of the trailer, I'm just like, this is what we love, spending time with his character as he asks those questions now, as he's in a position in his life

with new contexts and new relationships that maybe makes him think about whatever that answer is differently than he would have the last time we were with him. Loki and Mobius are my, like, honestly, in the run, I would have to think about the fullest, and I don't have it ready, but they are in the running for my favorite MCU duo currently. I mean, they're up there. I love every scene that they share together.

Top five for sure. Top five comfortably. Maybe top three, but top five for sure. Yeah. We'll give that some thought. We'll be prepared to come in with a more definitive power ranking. by the time of the premiere, but comfortably in the top five,

which is saying something after only a few episodes with them. What will Mobius remember? When? Which new variants will we meet? When? How much time will we spend on jet skis? When?

The trailer packed in so many lines that I think are emblematic of what we love about the characters. Like Mobius saying, listen, we have different styles. You're a man of action, which is fine. I take a more slow,

deliberate, cerebral approach. Like, it's just, it's all right there again. How is Sylvie? feeling about the decision that she made in the season one finale with He Who Remains. When Sylvie and this is all just in this, this quick little teaser trailer says like, whatever we do, we're playing gods and Loki says we are gods. We're back. We're back. I can't wait. Wonderful cast. We get to

we get to go back to a moment in time where we're just receiving Miss Minutes gifts from Arjuna constantly and relentlessly. So that's something to look forward to. Time slipping. very intriguing. It's impossible at the time slip in the TVA, Joe. Kate Dickey, Liza Aaron herself? Yeah. Do you think anyone will breastfeed in Loki season two? Yeah, and I think it's going to be Owen Wilson. I think Moravis is going to go full Robin Aaron.

I'm glad you mentioned the creative team because I want to shout out a couple things. First of all, we love Michael Waldron, who was the head writer on season one of Loki, obviously friend of the show. you know, in speaking to Waldron about that whole time with Loki and then hopping over to do Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, like he had to sort of like leave Loki a bit early to do that. And Eric Martin is the person who kind of like took over for him in that regard. Eric Martin who was worked with him on Rick and Morty, etc. Like one of the many Rick and Morty writers that were ported over to the MCU.

So like Eric Martin was responsible for Michael Waldron definitely a ton, but also Eric Martin a lot of those like sort of endgame decisions. And we should say that like, Loki unlike a lot of other Marvel shows, Loki ended so strong. Whereas a lot of Marvel Disney Plus shows were like, and then it kind of, and then it kind of ended. You know, this is like such a strong ending.

A lot of that had to do with Jonathan Majors. And again, we will grapple with that in real time. I want to say that. Dan Dilloo is making his main directorial debut and run the episodes. Dan Dilloo is like a long, I'm pronouncing his name like Dandelion, but it's like Dan Dilloo. I mean, like slow down and pronounce his name correctly. Is one of the top tier visual effects artists over in Marvel Land.

And like he was a Whedon guy and then he came over and, you know, he worked on like, like when I wrote a piece years ago on Thanos, he's the guy I talked to about like all the digital effect design they did on Thanos. He was the second unit director on end game Eternals in Quantumania. And then this is his like main directorial debut. So one of those stories that you love following of someone who's like sort of worked themselves up the ranks at Marvel, which happens sometimes. And so I'm really excited to see how his episode goes. Like I really like him. I think he's a great guy. And I'm like, this is a really cool step for him. So I'm excited about that instructing, I think, one episode.

So yeah, Loki season two. Well, you know, we shall see. We have the highest of hipes of hopes for it. We hope it's wonderful. Joanna. What is your number one and my number two? We've been spending months and months and months and months and months and months and months.

And months and months preparing for this. Many weekend sessions spent cramming and binging. Mallory and I have been talking about it constantly because we are getting ready for our next installment. It is November 2003, the Doctor Who Anniversary Specials. There are three of them

coming. Don't have main dates for them. It's stressing me out. I don't know why, but it's an anniversary, so I don't think they can move it. So it's happening in November. We just don't know when. The 60th anniversary is definitionally the 50th anniversary

special, which they released in film, in movie theaters and stuff like that. that was in a November. It's like, November is the anniversary of Dr. Ho. You got to do it then. So,

so three specials, and I don't know if they're going to space them out like November and then December and December. So, you know, like because Doctor Who usually is like a Christmas special. So I don't know if they're going to like

paste them out through the rest of the year, what they're going to do. Or maybe there's going to be like one for Christmas and then one in the new year. They do that sometimes. So like, we shall see. But at least one should be in November.

And when that happens, pals, friends, colleagues, Romans, blend me your ears. My favorite and yours, David Tennant, will be coming back as the doctor. We don't know how or why because that is not usually how this works in the doctor universe. Usually you're the doctor, then you're not the doctor again, but he was the 10th doctor. And we got Matt Smith, Peter Capaldi, Jody Whitaker. And now we are back to David Tennant and we will be moving on. to Shwitigata, who was so good in the Barbie movie and great on sex education.

I'm so excited for him. I'm thrilled, thrilled, thrilled that he is going to be the doctor. But I am also really excited that we get to spend just like a little bit more time with David Tennett before we move on to this next iteration. As we've talked about a lot on our Doctor Who rewatch pods that I really recommend people have been like, many people are saying that they're quite fun. Russell T. Davies, who relaunched Doctor Who, like, you know, a couple decades ago, white old. And then left when Matt Smith joined, you know, he left. Matt Smith came in with the showrunner Stephen Moffitt, blah. Russell D. Davies is coming back.

So Davies, who is my favorite showrunner, David Tennett, who's my favorite doctor, Catherine fucking Tate. Your favorite companion. Your favorite companion. And the late Bernard Cribbins, who plays Wilf, will also be there. His last thing that he did. I just like, I'm going to be in bits and pieces. Like, it's everything I love about what was once one of my favorite shows. And then has since, like, dropped off for me.

And, like, my, the original team that I really, really love is coming back. I'm getting emotional talking about it. It's been so special to do these rewatches with you. Mallory, we are in our Matt Smith era. I'm getting live updates, dispatches from your household, input from your husband on how he feels about Matt Smith. So Matt Ray just takes from Adam with love and respect. And we're going to be talking about that. I think next week is the plan. So, and then we're going to be doing two more Doctor Who episodes after that. We're going to do Capaldi. We're going to do Whitaker. And then it's going to be time for the anniversary. I'm so fucking

excited. And you know what I'm so excited for, Mallory? And this is like, this is like the core of our, of our podcast, of our friendship is like how much more it matter, these stories matter when you can share them with something you love. And the fact that like you have graciously and willingly and enthusiastically come along for this rewatch project all year with me, which means you can like drop river song spoilers references a few, uh, about a half hour ago earlier in the podcast. You know, like you can, you can like speak the language. Now you want like, I think you were, you are already like possibly excited for me because you care about me that I was excited for David Tennant and Catherine Tate and Bernard Krivans who you had literally never heard of and like

Restless Davis, etc. But now you know them. So how do you feel about Wilf and Donna and 10 and Davies coming back? I'm absolutely overjoyed. I, watching Doctor Who for the first time, for me for the first time, and getting to talk about it with you. Getting to text you real-time thoughts and pot about it with you has just been like such an incredible treat and pleasure and the prospect of getting to share

new who with you for the first time to be there with you in real time as you take in a new story in the Doctor Who universe is like almost more good fortune than I can like I feel ready to receive. I can't honestly can't believe it. I'm just so looking forward to it.

And being back with Tenet, being back with Donna, getting that line from Donna in the trailer, sometimes I think there's something missing. Like I had something lovely and it's gone. Like this is going to be a meaningful, meaningful thing to get to be back with these characters. I just, I absolutely cannot wait. If we get the Star Beast, Wild Blue Yonder and the giggle all at once, I'll soak up every second with gratitude. if they space them out,

sounds like more pod fodder to me. So either way or blessed. And I just genuinely can't wait to show this with you. Hyped doesn't even cover it. We need a new word for the hype meter for this. I'm like, I'm like honored. I'm like so excited. And like I think that this is the definition of hype for me.

Like usually, you know me. I'm usually like careful and like caveat like, like, well, this thought the other thing. You have never said on this podcast. I expect this to be the achievement of a lifetime for Dave Bolli. I expect this to be an achievement of a life. Because I expect Nate demand this to create closure on a storytelling wound that has hurt me for a very long time, a.k. what happened with Donna Noble? If you've not been rewatching or have watched or whatever Doctor Who with us,

I really recommend you at least watch the Catherine Tate David Tennant's season. I think it is a perfect season of television. That would be like season four. And that open question of what happened with Donna Noble is something that is like plagued the fandom for so long that I like grilled David Tenet himself about when I interviewed him for Jessica Jones. I was like, please to talk to you about Jessica Jones. Now let's talk about it. Care of comment. Sir, you didn't write this, but please answer for your crimes.

So I didn't say that. But it means so much to me that Davy's having, knowing what this means of the fandom is like, okay, let's bring back Catherine Tate and let's see, let's see what we can do. And I have a lot of faith in him that he's going to do something very special with it. So Doctor Who, Anniversary Special. And I'm really excited next week when we talk about the Matt Smith era, which is our plan. That means we get to talk about the 50th anniversary special, which you haven't seen yet. Oh, no. I have not.

you know, we'll see what that's like for you. That was a big deal when it came out. I can't wait. I'm excited to hear what you think of it. Yeah. I'm through series five, one season with 11 so far. We have a couple more to go. As usual, having a great time.

Honorable mentions, rapid fire. Hit me with your, I'm sure, just as emotionally resonant. Honorable mentions on the heels of that. incredibly moving. Okay. Conversation about Doctor Who. Yeah. I love and respect.

We are a little worried that the Marvel's binge drop approach to Echo Barry, you know, Bose not well for that show. So I want all good things for Echo, but I'm worried about it. So that is why it's in my honorable mentions.

Yes. It's on my honorable mentions too. November 29. So a Thanksgiving week. Binge drop. Binge drop. He All right.

Star Trek Lower Decks Season 4 Really fun stuff Just want to make sure the Trek fans are fed That is there in the honorable mentions Scott Pilgrim takes off

November on Netflix This is an animated series And the ganges all here, right? Michael Sarah, Mary Elizabeth Winstead Karen Culkin, Chris Evans, Anna Kendrick, Brilerson, Allison Pillabry Plaza Have you out of them

They will all be here Of course, The Hulligan takes off on Netflix. And then last and last and least, and this is the reason why I cannot judge you for Aquaman. It is my, it is something that I have mentioned to both Sean Fantasy and Steve Allman and got a, are you fucking kidding me,

response for both of them? They're like, Joanna, how can you possibly be excited for this movie? When Sean was like, hey, what movies do you want to cover an upcoming Big Pick episodes? And I mentioned this one. He was like, what? Are you about to say what I think you're going to say? I don't know.

What do you think I'm going to say? It is, Well, with that buildup, Oh, okay. It's Manka. Oh, what did you think I was going to say? It was just such a setup. I thought you were about to say Rebel Moon,

Par one, a child of fire. Oh, please. I'll put that out there as an honorable mention. Wonka's a wild pick. I love you. This is just fantastic. And I would love that movie to be great. I just need to defend Wanka really quickly and just say this.

People laughed at the trailer. That's fine. When I said that I was like, excited. Steve accused me of being in the tank for Timothy Shalamee, and then I made Steve sit down and go through all of Timothy Shalame's filmography. And I was like, I like this movie. I don't like this movie. I was like, I like, I like, Timothy Shalme when he's good. This is not a Timothy Shalme thing. To be clear, it is a director Paul King thing. Paul King made the Paddington movies. The Paddington movies rule. And people laughed at the first padding trailer. They thought it looked so dumb. They made fun of it. There was just like all this like, this is going to be crap. Because they're like, two of the best films that have ever been made. So if anyone cannot fuck up Wonka, it will be Paul King. So I am just, I love this. I don't know.

What's the stock market term? I'm buying low on Wonka. Buying low selling high on Wonka. That's what I'm doing. This is fabulous. I love this for you. And I hope Wonka is great. I will own it if it's terrible, though.

I promise. Rebel Moon Part 1 and Child of Fire Part 1 It's December 22nd on Netflix Part 2 coming April 19th of 2024 Zach Snyder does the Star War Speaking of movies The Hunger Games The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes

The Affirmationed Games colon the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes Which was teased Organically and artfully earlier on this fairy podcast Is coming out on November 17 Great cast Into the idea of a snow prequel I have not read this. Yes, I have not read this.

I mean, sure. I'm sure. I have not read this particular book, but I have of course read the main hunger games trilogy and loved it. Sure. Zach Cram, whose opinion on these matters, I trust. We value. We value.

He read this book and he said it was good. So he's like, now I'm interested in the movie. Now I might be slightly mischaracterizing and misquoting him, but that was my takeaway. what he said. Okay? So on the honorable mentions list here it goes. Defend yourself.

Will of Time Season 2. I do happen on my honorable mentions because I am intrigued. I am intrigued to see where this story goes. I do feel I feel like

I'm mad at myself that I didn't follow through in my promise to just read, read, read, read, read, and be much more prepared. for the journey in season two than I was for season one, but one day. One day. It's never too late. To be clear, just to save ourselves some emails, just because we mentioned on Hypedraft does not mean we will be covering something. We'll see. We'll see what the patrols. With a lot of respect to the wheelheads and the foundation heads of whom there are many and we get many emails about. Okay.

I do love foundation. I do love it. As you know, Lee Pace Highways. Are you watching season two? I intend to. Yeah. It's been amazing. weeks. Next on the honorable mentions list. One piece. This is actually coming out this week on Netflix. This is in August 31st, job, the eight episodes. Very, very charming trailer. Check it out if you haven't. This is based, of course, on the massive and beloved manga. So I'm excited to watch this. I'm excited to see what it's like. And it would be really cool if this felt like the adaptation that fans wanted. I'm very intrigued. I can't wait to see it. Yeah. I was having like, Cowboy Bob flashbacks, which is why I did not make my list. But hopefully it's great. I hope it's great. And then we would be remiss if we did not mention,

even though we are not the gaming experts in the Ring Reverse orbit. Of course, Ben and Jessica will have you covered on this front and all of your other gaming fronts on Button Mash. But the Marvel Spider-Man 2 comes out this fall. Got to mention.

I mean, this is one of the most anticipated. Yeah, this is one of the most anticipated games in some time and obviously a sequel to an absolute sensation. So looking forward to that. Anything else? Any other honorable mentions? We did it. I only cried a little.

I'm still processing Aquaman in the Last Kingdom being on. Live in the now. Live in the now. She says when the most frequent thing that I say on this pod feed is, I can't believe this is almost already over, literally when we just started. But live in the now. I'm going to try it. I'm going to see how it feels. We get a new Asoka tonight.

Oh. I know. I can't wait to watch. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I absolutely cannot wait to watch part three already. All right. Lots of look forward to. Asoka tonight. A new Asoka deep dive right here on the House of Our Feed later this week. Time slipping in the TVA in the future. All of it.

We've reached the end of this fall slash winter. of 2023 Hype meter. I want to say thank you. Thank you to Carlos Chiroboga, who is once again here with us to produce this episode today, Arjuna Ramgapal,

and for his additional production work on this episode, and Jomi Adoneron, for his work on the social for this episode. We will see you on Friday for our Asoka Deepdive of the Midnight Boys.

Poo! We'll see you on Wednesday and Friday over on the Ring Reverse feed this week. Until next time, remember, It's really good. Bye.

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