House of R - 2025 Halloween Costume Recommendations

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

Jo is joined by some of your favorite Ringer hosts to talk about Halloween, rules for picking a costume, and what pop culture–related costumes will be the most popular this year. From ‘Weapons’ and ‘One Battle After Another’ to ‘KPop Demon Hunters’ and ‘Andor,’ this pod has a little bit of everything! (00:00) Intro (02:25) Van Lathan and Charles Holmes (24:28) Chris Ryan (34:40) Jodi Walker and Nora Princiotti Host: Joanna Robinson Guests: Van Lathan, Charles Holmes, Chris Ryan, Jodi Walker, and Nora Princiotti Producers: Carlos Chiriboga and Jon Jones Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell Social: Jomi Adeniran Check out our Ringer Movies channel: youtube.com/@ringermovies CONNECT Shop: https://theringer.com/shop Website: http://theringer.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/ringer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ringer Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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life, and we love that for her. But she's not here. So we asked some of our friends to join us here on House of R today to talk about Halloween in general and Halloween costume ideas, because now is the time to get your costume ideas in order. So this is a very loose assemblage of pals talking very loosely about some, but some like genuinely great ideas. Van Lathen and Charles Holmes are here from The Midnight Boys. I think you know exactly how that conversation went. Christopher Ryan joined us from New York to talk about some great ideas from like recent

House of Our centric culture. And then Nora Princiotti and Jodi Walker from We're Obsessed are here with sort of an outsider's perspective, outside of the ringerverse, I would say, some meme culture ideas, some absolutely killer ideas from Jody and Nora. So please stay tuned for all of that. Before we get into that, just some really quick programming reminders. I should say that the Midnight Boys are covering a peacemaker over on their feed. So you can check that out this week. And then Mallory and I will be back next week with a whole bunch of great stuff. We have so much stuff coming up.

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So subscribe where you like find all your podcasts. And as I mentioned, email us, Hobbes and Dragons at gmail.com. And let's get into this Halloween episode of How Some Are. Van Lee Thin, Charles Holmes. Yo. Midnight boys. Aiboo. One of my first podcast ever did with you.

We talked about Halloween. You talked about growing up and not being able to do Halloween. Not for a four time. Yeah, was it? Halloween? What's your relationship to Halloween in costumes? Similar. I feel like the African-American experience is, you know, your parents get into the church. We're going to Sunday school for Halloween. I'm like, this ain't hitting the same. And then after a while, they just didn't care. I was just running the streets.

Just don't eat. When you became old enough to go do it by yourself when you didn't need them anymore, you just kind of be like, hey, man, it's Halloween and we're going out. And that's it. And they would be like, okay. The demon worshipping fear was big, and also I was coming of age during like the Harry. Like Harry Potter hit the black church crazy, bro. It was like. Nobody talks about this. When people, when we talk about Harry, no one talks about this.

When people go, Van, why didn't you fuck with Harry? And like, part of it, hold on. Are people often coming up to me like, man. People ask me all the time. And then I'll be like, I've never seen a Harry Potter. People ask me all the time. they go, Van, why don't you fuck with Harry? You have to understand.

First of all, I was a little older. But at the same time, Harry was dropping. Harry was dropping in Louisiana at a time where people were like, that's the devil. Yeah. And they were doing sermons on it. Yeah, yeah. It was a thing.

It was a thing. Because, like, also, that was around the time they was doing the line with you in a wardrobe movies, and I'll be watching. I'm like, this not hitting the same as Harry. But that's what they made us watch. They wanted us to watch that because it was Christian. Jesus.

Yeah. Okay. So, when did you get, are you into Halloween costumes? Do you dress up for Halloween? Laisily. Laisily? Yeah. Last year was the first year where I really, really committed.

He went hard. I was, I was a cowboy. Uh-huh. It was a hit. And I learned, especially if you're single in the L.A. streets, this is all, this is, you know, my advice for anybody out there. Man, woman, he, she, they. Bring props. Okay.

Bring props. My boy was a parking attendant. So what we would do, he would roll up, give a nice, like a nice hottie a ticket, and then I would have the fake guns and the cigar, blah, blah, blah, class it. A two-man team. I love this. Van? So I can't do it.

I can't commit. It's tough. Why? I always want to, but then I never can. I remember this, remember when we did the live show on Halloween? And Van had all these plans of like, he was like, I'm going to show up as like the most kidded out Jedi you've ever seen your life. and then you showed up with like a black smock on.

I can't commit. I always want to commit. But then I can't commit. And Kalika, I bless her heart. She'll be like, Van, okay now, Halloween's going to roll up. And then you're going to be all upset that you didn't put anything into your costume and you're going to go as NWA again. So she's like, you just get a hat, glasses, fake chain, you are.

That's the staple. You're going to go as NWA again. do something and go to, and I just, I can't, I can't commit to it. Yeah, yeah, this is my question. Do we like a couple, like, do we like doing a couple's costume or when we see other people do a couple's costume? I can't fuck with a couple of couples costume. Okay.

I'm a solo act. Yeah. Because, what about women like your friends who are couples? Yeah. I give them ideas. Not too cheesy, like you love it. Okay. Yes.

I don't like it. You know, Halloween is a different experience in Los Angeles than anywhere else that I've been. because Halloween is, first of all, it turns back to clock. It's like 1975 in Hollywood because it's a little dangerous. It's a little seedy. You know how like all the movies from New York and L.A. and 75 make it seem like you could just be walking down the street. Then somebody goes, hey, where are you going, Square? And then they get the butterfly knife comes out.

You know, you see that? That's Halloween in Los Angeles. That's Halloween in Los Angeles. For real. That's like, that's how it is. Like, it's going to go down. But the parade is, you always go, God damn, I wish I was extroverted enough to have fun, like, people that having fun on Halloween. So let's do this.

What, other than NWA, what should be your ringerverse friendly or whatever you prefer Halloween costume this year? They can't be sinners. I'm talking to all my black folks today. Like, we cannot do, like. Follow up question, though. The white people are loving, showing up as the trio of vampires with their bluegrass music. Go for it. I mean, that's who they are anyway. There's this, like, this of, like, aura of like, I get it.

Do you know what I mean? I'm with you, yeah. I'm with you. Two reasons why I can't do sinners. Number one is because I'm a shout out to my man Omar. But if I show up, you know, it's a cornbread situation. That's who I am in the movie. I know it.

So I can't do that. And number two is just two. on the nose. I would want to go as once again, people going to feel like I'm just saying, I would want to go as somebody from Demon Slayer, man. All right. Now, the glaze is crazy. Wow. The glaze is insane. I want to be a weep. I cannot believe

you turn, he turned this around this quickly. I watch it again. Do you believe it? I don't. I watch it. Because here's a thing, he's pissed off the PTA head so much that he's going to Weeb corner. Oh, he has a little bit. Trying to raise the army up. So you're not going to be wearing a bathrobe and some sunglasses and a beanie. You're not doing the one battle after another. We can't do Bob.

Okay. So you're outlawing sinners and you're outlawing Bob. Yeah. What's in play then? What are we doing then? Yeah. That's culturally relevant from this year that people know. I don't like culture because I feel like the last couple years there was way too many carmies.

There were way too many Barbies. And I feel like you got to dig a little bit deeper in your pop culture bag. Okay. You know what I mean? I hate Carmi costumes, by the way. Carmi is just, I'm an attractive white dude. Let me put on a tight t-shirt and the whole deal. I remember we had to get an apron.

Come on. We had this guy that went to school with us, and he was cool as white dude. But he went as like the outsiders for Halloween. He came to school as the one of the niggas from the outsiders. And he just had a tight pony boy, stay golden. Who are the other guys? It was pony boy. Big Doug

Who are the guys? Who are the guys from the outsiders? Who are they? It was... Soda pop. Soda pop. Johnny. Yeah.

Dally. Okay, now it's coming back to me. So he went as one of them and he just put on a tight t-shirt and then took a little box and rolled it up into his sleeve because that's his cigarettes. And it was just, I remember,

I went, I think, it was just a way for girls to be on his dick all day long. It's not a real costume. He's like, He's going around. He's got a fake cigarette. He's doing the whole thing.

And I was hate on the most. Isn't that what Charles says is the agenda for Halloween? That's what I'm saying. That's what happens in L.A. It's like, girls don't go as Kim Jong-un. They go as sexy Kim Jong-un. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like sexy everything.

I get it. Yeah. But I want there to be. That's not just Los Angeles. I think that's everyone. I was in New York as well. That's coast to coast. Yeah.

Well, actually, no. I feel like they're quirky pockets. Like, I don't know if Portland is like always going to be the sexiest. They might be more quirky. You know what I'm saying? Middle of America, I don't even know if they let you dress up at this point. So when you go, let's go back to dig deep. Okay. Do you mean you need to go back in history for a pop culture or do you need to do something that's relevant from this year, but you need to do like a deep cut inside of that thing that came up to here? I think even you've got to go deep cut or I think we're swinging back to

classics. Like, yo, just be a pirate. Because sometimes you just walk in as a pirate and people are just like, oh, it's classic shit. They know the costume. You're walking the pirate. There was one guy who Collique and her friends complained about because he talked as a pirate the whole night. I don't think you have to do that. No.

He talked as a pirate the whole and said, all right, shut the fuck up. But pirate is good. Yeah. You can also get really intricate and very fancy with a pirate costume. You got the white blouse, the rings there. But also, sometimes you can get two, like, I think last.

Don't go like full Captain Jack Sparrow. I feel like you need, we don't need to go Johnny. We just need to go generic pirate. No, we're doing classic. Classic pirate. But also, I'm warning against, don't be like a, I remember last Halloween, somebody was like a QR code menu and they just had a bunch of QR codes pasted to them. And I was just like, I was trying to do the QR code thing.

And I was getting pissed at them like I can do at a restaurant. I'm like, yo shit's not working. It don't work. The QR code don't work. One question about Halloween. Yeah. Just the one. Are we still in the.

Uh, what's your face era that had Los Angeles in the chokehold. It really had Los Angeles and a chokehold for the last decade. Are we still in the Harley Quinn era? I did see a Dragon Con, not just Harley Quinn's, but Leto Jokers. I didn't think we were doing Lotto Ljokers anymore, but I saw some. Has Lettow? Has Lettos Joker, hopscotch, Keith? Like, calm back around? In terms of just Halloween costumes?

Well, to go back to your like, everybody wants. be, you know, smutty on Halloween. I think I have my shirt open and I've tattooed my chest joker is more appealing to people than like Heath Ledger multi-layer in the purple suit. Wait a minute. We were talking about this before. That's when it happened. That's the leto.

That's when he fucked it up. This is a previous, this is an off-air process. Yo, he was. He was bringing rats on to the suicides. That's when he's fucking up. That's when it happened. He gets the Dallas Buyers Club thing. This is a total aside. He gets the Dallas Bires Club thing

He becomes a big deal So he's now going to go do The big commercial movie Viola Davis is out here being like I didn't want that Pig Fetus delivered to me And yet That's when he fucked it up

He fucked it up by fucking up Joker And being a weirder on a set Like after that That was the beginning of We're not that into Jerry Letto as we thought that we were It was the Joker shit That's when he fucked it up

No Letto Joker No Letto Joker We're a real like don't do podcast right now You've got hire it and bring props. Van, what are you bringing to the table? What should people dress us?

So I think video game characters are going to be in. Let's forget about the demon slayer thing. You guys don't want to have me into it. That's fine. Whatever. You guys don't want that. That's cool. For the tolerant left.

But yeah, exactly. You guys don't want me in there. That's fine. You got on my ass about it. Really what you want. I've learned something about people recently. They don't want allies. They want worthy adversaries.

And anime people, I tried to be on your side. I like the shit. I watch it. I thought the shit was really interesting, but y'all don't want it? Cool. Fuck you. Video game characters.

Okay. I'm into it. A lot of them. Minecraft, Mario, Luigi. Mario Luigi are classics. The classics, it still hits. Every time I see Link,

I see Link running around L.A. a lot. I see Princess Zelda running around. I see the Gears of War. Every time you see that video game characters, just always work for me. Do you remember when we were at Comic Con and we saw all those people running around with like baguettes and striped shirts and like tablecloths and stuff like that? Oh, yeah.

And it's a video game costume. I didn't know that. I had to like go up to one of them and ask them and they're like, it's Claire Obscura, like one of the biggest video games of the year. And I was like, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Anyway. Can I wait, can I talk about the goat costume? A woman just told me she was going to be this.

And I was just like, it took everything in me not to laugh because I'm just like, well, yeah, everyone's going to love you, Velma. Sexy Velma works. Ever still a year. Selma is eternal. Sexy Velma, a thicky, thicky little Velma popping out the skirt.

Oh, daddy. Like, like that, that has, that took over Harley Quinn. Yeah. Like that took over. No, that predates and has survived longer.

That Velma is just eternal. Now, this is what I'll say. And I have to be honest about this. You know, around the time of Halloween, because my Twitter algorithm is different than you all. I don't like when you get this look on your face. Around the time of Halloween,

there are certain tweets that you click on, you go, oh, this is somebody in their Velma costume. I'm warning people right now that when you see them, hi, I'm Velma, sometimes that's just the first scene. And then the next scene is something that can get you in trouble. So be careful when you're just checking out people's Velcro. It's like, I'm Velma for Halloween. And then all of a sudden, you watch it, and you go,

oh, shit, it's going down. And then you look and you, you know, you're at your grandmother's house or something like that. Just to remind everyone that your likes are public on. on Twitter. Yeah. Yeah, but the bookmarks aren't. Okay, okay.

You said you're like, okay, anime doesn't want me. What about, how do we feel about, it's not anime, hardcore anime, but K-pop Demon Hunters like gonna be a top-tier costume this year, would you not say? I will say among the younger set. Now, if I'm seeing people, like,

let's say, like 25 and above as a K-pop demon hunters, I'm just like, y'all are in the trenches. There's an age limit. I don't know if there's an age limit, but that means like, because I'm thinking, do they even have K-pop Demon Hunter

or Halloween costumes in, like, Target yet? Because it was such a, they do? Oh, they do have them? Well, that would be stupid. Are you kidding? They're not sleeping on that. Are you kidding me? That's Sony.

Yeah. I might want to be the little blue tiger. Exactly. The tiger, or you could be the girls in their bathrobes with, like, the towel stuff, like just sip eating ramen all night, something like that, you know?

There's some good options. I might, you know what I might do, You know my go ass, I just thought about something. No show, I've been watching and really enjoying the Gilded Age. All right. I might go as the Gilded Age. Okay, you're going to be like a robber baron? Yeah, man.

These people dress for lunching, they don't go to luncheon. They go to luncheon. So you're just going to, like, be tussling over an opera box? The whole deal, because they got black people in the Gilded Age. I think you should do this. They got black people in the Gilded Age? Yeah. Because they all live in Brooklyn.

That's facts. Really? Not bullshit, you. They all live in Brooklyn and they have their own issues as Negro. Calica do a Gilded Age couple's costume. Man, I told them that we should have a whole Gilded age party. Yeah. I'm going to have this party and if you don't go, you're not my real friend.

And you got to dress up as Gilded and you have to talk, Gilded. Yeah, we have to talk about, you know, different issues, whether or not we're going to go see Clara Barton, give a lecture. You know, she's in the show. Funding the arts. The famed nurse, Clara Varden is in the show. Founder to Red Cross. She's in the show.

Wait, why would you be Mr. Terrific from Superman? Oh, that's cool too. That's cool, too. But I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I tell you something. Why would you dress Bozeman as crypto? I would love to dress. That's good. That's going to happen.

Like, all dogs should be crypto this year, right? Yeah. That's an easy costume, too. Put a cape on the dog. The dog is crypto. I guess he needs a little collar, too. A little crypto. That's good.

That works. Yeah. You should get a fair play like leather. That's an easy costume. But the problem with, this is another thing. The problem with Mr. Terrific is, I just be honest with you guys, man. And this is another thing. I'm a big brother, right?

And sometimes a superhero, you think you're going to look good as the superhero. And then you don't, bro. There's nothing. There's nothing. So, Blade, I tried to. Did you dress up his way? And I got in the thing. And I looked.

And then I turned to, there are photos of this? I turn to there are somewhere. I turn around and I look at a colleague and she goes, she was nice. Wait, what year was this? Maybe 21. Maybe this is like right after. Yeah, it is.

It's like right after. But you were still, you were hoping. This is probably the peak of your powers and shit. Nah, man. Nah. Did you get the, you got like the leather trench and the whole thing? I had the leather trench and then I had. And then did we not wear it out?

No. Okay. Wait, what did you switch to? Yeah, what did you wear? All I had to do actually was I had the shirt already. We got the hat, the thing. I just went NWA. Like, just took the fangs out.

The whole, I just went NWA. It was the jeans. When I looked at myself in the jeans, in tight jeans, you can see that my legs kind of do like that a little bit. I got the, so it wasn't, it wasn't awesome. It wasn't awesome. Shit. Okay.

I'm thinking to Uma Thurman killed Bill this year as well. For you? Yeah. That's dope. All right. So, Yellow Tracks, dude, are you going to do blood splatter? I'm a little bit, like, here's a thing. I was thinking of going clean beginning of the night, hitting multiple Halloween parties,

putting the blood on as I'm- Progressively bloodier. Yeah. I love that. Real sword, fake sword. I don't know. The streets of L.A. want me walking around with a real...

I saw a girl some years ago. She had a real sword. I swear to God, this was doing my team's... She had a real sword. She had a real sword. I remember she came into and she was going... I was like... It wasn't sharp.

There are butterfly knives out there. You have to arm yourself. It's true. Exactly. She probably knew that that was going down. It wasn't sharp, but I'm like, yo, man. She's like, yeah, I went to the pawn shop. I went to the pawn shop.

I went to the pawn shop. Please go to the pawn shop and ask them for a katana. They have them there. You got to do it. Hitori Hanzo's sword. Hell yes. Yeah, just get the real sword. I like a sort of fucked up couples costume.

Okay. Like, if you wanted to do like Last of Us and do like Abby and Joel, do you know what I mean? Like Abby with the golf club and then like a completely. busted up, Joel. Like, Negan, and then all your friends are people with their hands all fucked up because Negan hit him with the baseball bat. Yeah.

I like a messed up couples gossip. I think it's really fun. I don't know. The vibes, I'd be sad, you know, watching that. You know, I feel like that's a curse on your relationship. You wouldn't laugh your head off if you saw someone come in an Adley and Joel.

There's already too much spooky energy out in Halloween. You know what I'm saying? I don't play with that. You want to uplift. I want to uplift the people. You just want to smear yourself progressively with more and more blood as the night goes on. Yes, exactly.

To bring a smile to people's faces. She killed like 200 people in those movies. And they all deserved it. And that's fucking true. Tushay. The point conceded. It's fucking true. Okay.

So you're like, Sinners is out. Actually. Bob is out. Oh, sinners is back in. I might, if I could find a banjo in time. Oh, you're going to do Remick? I might do Remick. I might do Remick. It just fuck everybody's head.

That does work. You know what I'm saying? Like the red contacts. Yeah. No, I might be able to do Delta Slim. Yeah. Delta, not slim. But you said you didn't want to do centers.

I don't want to do centers. But if I do a costume this year, because if I do... You should just do Bob and really just fuck with the... Fuck with the film, bro. You know, they gave me, at my screening, they gave me beating and sunglasses. They gave me like the Halloween costume starter kit. So if you want it... Interesting.

If I do Bob, it's going to be in whiteface. And I see nothing wrong with that. And you guys, one of my most... And I think that'll be fine. One of my most controversial costumes ever was my last year at TMZ, I went, this was one time I put out, I went as a white devil. That was a costume. White face. Uh-huh.

Devil horns. All white. I was really trying to get fired. And they helped me. And they did my, they obliged you. And they said, sure. Sure. Get the fuck out.

We got you. I also. Funny guy. I will say this for all my friends out there. there who do this, I actually appreciate it. Sometimes I do get my wife friends being like, I'm thinking about be a Sosa. What are your thoughts? And I'm like, yeah.

Every year, every year I give the same message to all of my wife friends. PSA, ready? Look down the camera. Don't fuck up. Yeah. It's so easy not to fuck up. Yeah, man. It's really easy.

Don't fuck up. It's not an homage. You're not celebrating it. You're not being a part of the culture. I don't care how many people you've been. play basketball with. If you do it, you go get fired. And we're going to make sure of it.

So just don't do it. I'm talking about not just the black face. No, no, no, no. I'm talking about don't do the face tags and the dress. Don't do the fro. Don't do none of that. If it's on the line, if you have to call your black friend and go, is this? Yes.

If you're thinking of texting, Charles, the answer is just. No, I love it because then I'm like, ooh, you're not as evolved as I thought you. Now, look. If you want to do Blade, do Blade. Just dress up like Blade, fangs. Have a whole Blade thing. You're Blade, but you're from Nova Scotia, whatever's going on. And if Nova Scotia Blade doesn't work out, Nova Scotia NWA.

Just do NWA, exactly. Just don't put that shit on your face, man. We're going to find your LinkedIn, and we're going to put your shit on Twitter. I think that does it. I think we did it. Anything else you guys want to say about Halloween? Have fun. Be safe.

Be safe. Avoid the butterfly knives. Avoid the butterfly knife. I will say this though. If you are in Los Angeles, seriously, be careful. Yeah. It's very fun.

The West Hollywood parade is... I mean, people are fucking professionals here. It's fantastic. It's an amazing thing. But as the night progresses, just be careful. And have pawn shop stores on. There you are.

Chris Ryan. Joe. I don't know your Halloween takes. What are your Halloween takes? Are you a Halloween guy? Right around now. So what are we? October 9th.

I would say you can officially start, you know, your Halloween decorations are welcome to go up. Okay. And I would say that from now until New Year's Eve is the best time of the year, the streets are full of lights.

The streets are full of festive and scary joy. Everybody's dressing up or doing something. I love this time of year. so much. And obviously, as a horror movie fanatic, I just, I just love the, the vibes you get. L.A. goes over the top because you've got a lot of unemployed production designers who are, if they haven't moved to Budapest to make Dune 3, are doing their thing. Right. So yeah,

I love this time of season. Are you personally a costume guy? Like, do you dress up? Okay. I am not. I am not. I'm a costume appreciator. But for the sake of this podcast, I have come up with a couple of ideas. Now, I would describe these as classically childless middle-aged man ideas. Excellent. And I'm not thinking about the ramifications of my thoughts here. Okay. But, okay, so for you and me, number one, I think, given my hair line, given my age, I could go Perry from task. Now, not a really good person. Okay. And also maybe something of an obscure choice. for Halloween costume. But you get the dark hearts,

like, you're going to go, like, would you go full dark hearts, like leather jacket or just some tattoos, rings,

tattoos, leather jacket, you know, stubble, and then you got to have the watch chain now. Yes. If you're current with task,

you can understand how problematic Perry is. So I am going to pick something a little bit more Halloweeny is my real choice. But this really screams someone doesn't have a kid.

I am going to go Marcus from weapons. Yes. I was hoping you would pick weapons. That's why you're here. I love this. I want to find the most hipster parent enclave of Los Angeles where everybody's having a great time. And I want to dress up like a Disney adult.

And then I want to do the run down the street and see who tackles me first. You know? It's kind of like basically like, can I be in Jackass? Is dressing like Marcus from. weapons. Which has long been a dream of yours, right? Absolutely. It's one of the great, great American films.

Yeah, absolutely. All right. Are there any costumes that you feel like if you should be off the table this year, that if you see someone dress up, but you're like, guys, really? I'd lay off political ones. I think what we're going to get, I have a good answer for you, which is that if you're thinking about being Bob from one battle after another, I assure you someone else has thought of that.

And wherever party you go to, I can almost guarantee there will be three dudes there who are like, I'm dressed as Bob too. I got the blockers. I got the robe. I'm listening to Steely Dan. So I think that one feels a little too obvious. You could stay away from that one. I was telling Van and Charles who were in here earlier that when at my screening of one battle, they gave out the sunglasses and the beanie. So you're two-thirds of the way. You just need to throw a bathrobe on top of that. I just saw, I feel like I saw a gleam in every guy's eyes. They, like, were handed the sunglasses and the beanie at their screening and they're like, I'm set. This is it.

I feel seen. Yeah. I've known. Some people do want to like be in a, maybe there's going to be like a herd of bobs. You know what if you just saw like a whole group costume of various bobs coming down the street. But what if people dressed as like as a sensei as Benicio? Like what if you do like a deeper cut from one battle? That would be awesome.

I think that Bob is something that lots of different people could pull off. I think sensei you gotta be you gotta be like tall and handsome to make sensei work. You gotta have that Benicio race. You have to have the vibe. Yeah. I'm too nervy, you know, like I don't have Sensei energy, you know? What about any of the other? I was trying to think if there's anything good from Andor like a shared favorite of ours this year.

But like Amor is a tough one. I think you could do Luton antique dealer. You could get the wig, the robes. Once again, you're like a real ring heavy kind of costume. is what you're looking for. I could do three parties in one night, Barry, Luthin, and Bob. No, and I think that you could do,

it depends on how obscure you want to get, right? So do you want to go down to Lonnie? Like, whoever recognizes Lonnie would be like, dude, great pull. But otherwise, you would just look like kind of an empire bureaucrat. I think it's a good one for the ginger's out there. If you're a ginger guy with like a real gingery mustache, Lonnie's at like a great costume.

Just look tense. Yeah. Maybe look shot, look dead. Look pursued. Yeah. Little Harriet. I love that. Anything else on the on the sort of like nerd culture front this year that you think is good costume or stay away costume?

How are you feeling about the sinners? I probably would stay away from Jack O'Connell personally. Yeah. You know, as far as the nerd culture stuff goes, do you think that Kirsch from Alien Earth has been? broken into the mainstream enough that we could get some dye jobs going and see some and just like white goop

like you know coming out of all orpuses. Just like a little bit of coconut milk coming out of the side of your mouth. Yeah, yeah. And then just proxide your hair. I'm genuinely considering dressing up as

Timothy Oliphant in our interview with Timothy Olaffat. Just the sunglasses and the t-shirt of the vibe and the energy. But no one has that amount charisma. What can you possibly do? So the All-Fant being, you know, a huge TV star, huge star right now, but it being 20-25, but still doing podcast interviews like it's peak COVID and it's just like, I'm just going

to get on my phone wherever I am. Like, this is just how it's going to go. Bear with. I'm going to get my charger. Exactly. Really, really, really good stuff. Severance. Oh. I guess you could do, you know, you could just get like a real, basic gap work clothes outfit, like a good H&M Uniglo going to work outfit and say you're in Severance, right? What would you pick from Severance?

What I would say in Severance is that and I was just telling me in Charles this, that I love a messed up couples costume. So what I would really love in Severance is to see like a Thruple costume of like Helly and Mark and Miss Casey and Gemma or Helly and Helly are and Mark. Like some fucked up.

love triangle from severance, I think would be a really good costume. The only rule I would impose, though, is that if you do that, you can't do Halloween again for another three years. That's it? You're done? Because you're shooting. Halloween season three coming to you in 2019. Got it.

Got it. Got it. All right. Anything else? Well, so are you, you're not a costume guy yourself, but in theory, are you pro-couples costume, or how do you feel about it? Like, seeing another people. You know, if I had a wife that was into that, I do.

have a wife. Yeah. And she loves Halloween, but does not dress up. So I think, like, she would do, like, when we've hung out with our friends with kids, she'll do, like, a basic cat face kind of situation or, like, whatever she needs to do to kind of play along. And she really, really gets into that. But we don't do the really thought-out couples thing.

We met in New York. It was never really, like, we just never got into it. Yeah. Can I make a pitch for you? Sure. For me and Phoebe? For you and Phoebe. Okay.

Summer I turned pretty. Oh my God. Jeremiah and the chocolate cake. Couple of costumes. She hates Jeremiah so much. Yeah. But shouldn't you be dressing up as like the scariest thing you can think of for Halloween and is that perhaps Jeremiah Fisher?

That's such a good idea, Joe. But if I showed up with a Jeremiah wig, like I do think I'd get served with papers the next minute. Fair enough. All right. Well, this has been a delight and a joy is always for us. Yeah. Thank you for having me. Are there any other task outfits we could do?

I think if you happen to be deeply between bleach jobs on your hair and you've got the roots to be Lizzie, like you've got to have like at least two inches of dark roots to pull off the Lizzie from task look. Well, not only is it one of my favorite shows of the year. I could do the accent or I could get pretty close. Can I hear it? Joe, what are you talking about? You want me to do the accent? Wait, I have to think of what I would say.

Joe, come over here so we can get some water. Come on. Perfect. Yeah. Would you go as water ice? Oh, I would definitely go as Black Cherry Readers. Yeah. That would be fine. Yeah.

All right. Well, I think that's the, you've got now got like five costumes you can try out in a single night. Okay. And I hope to see footage of all of them. Wait, are you going as anything? You weren't taking seriously my Timothy Oliphon in his interview with House of Ar. It's just slightly obscure, but awesome. I think everyone's going to understand what it is.

I don't know. I like the idea of doing something from, I mean, task would be incredible and really on point. But I think, I don't know, Andor, I really want to try to find something from Andor. That is the show that is like closest to my heart this year. And so you want to, if you're going to do a pop culture costume, I feel like you want to do something that like you'll look back and be like, oh yeah, that's, the year that this happened without showing up as Bob from one battle after another. So that's the sweet spot, right? You got to nail the like, oh, that's such a 20-25.

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Save at Whole Foods Market. Jody Walker, Nora Princeioni, my wear-obsessed friends. Hello. How are you? Hi. Good. So good. Thrilled as always to be here. Highlight of my life. Love to have you on House of R. I wanted to bring you in as sort of like outside consultants into this Halloween costume conversation. Because I talked to some people deep within the nerd community, your vans, your Charleses and stuff like that. But I wanted to get a sense from you guys. You're nerd aware, your nerd versus aware, but not this is not your job or your life. And so... Can I say that I feel so excited. Like, I feel like I've been let into a room that I have never had access to before in my life.

Jody, do you feel the same? This is an exchange of cultures. You know, we're... We are here to communicate, to spread. I'm here to bring a little bit of our culture to you and very... There is... But to be clear, like, what you're setting up here, there's a lot of overlap. Like, over on we're obsessed.

We're hitting... some of the big ones. Okay. Here's my question. And thank you so much for sharing your culture with me when you brought me on to talk about Hallmark Christmas movies last year. That was like a real eye-opening experience for me personally. Thank you so much. Binge miss coming to a podcast network near you. It's the reason for the season, honestly. I wanted to ask you first, I sent you guys a list of sort of some of the big ticket sort of house of our shows and movies that came out this year. And so sort of as a public service for perhaps, the nerds who listen to this show, what are the shows and movies where if you saw a costume

from it, you'd be like, I recognize what I'm trying to see what's in the broader monoculture. Because for some people, they show for the costume and they don't want to have to explain what their costume is to a million different people. So what is big enough that you feel like you would look at it? You'd be like, I get it. I see it. First of all, the idea of like trying to talk less at a party is very foreign to me. I'm like, you wouldn't want to, you wouldn't want your costume to engage conversation.

You don't want a five-minute monologue every time, no? But I understand, I understand wanting it to be known and not like wanting to do the whole pun thing. I don't know about you, Nora, but for me, it's, I think it's weapons and severance, like, number one and two with a bullet of what I would immediately recognize also that, like we engaged with a lot as just a larger culture. And they're all, for severance especially, I just feel like that's very visually recognizable. Totally. And I totally agree with you that those are on my list of like,

I would get it. I would be into it. I would congratulate you. I do think that Wicked is like, number one with a bullet. And the thing about, it's so, like it's so visually directed because of the colors,

famously on Project Runway, which like isn't that meaningful to me. And yet I can't stop talking about it. as Jody knows. Famously. They did a Wicked Challenge this season, and one of the designers didn't choose pink or green, and they still made a beautiful design, but everybody was, like, really thrown by it because nobody could put it within the framework of Wicked.

So I think that, like, if your goal is such theater nerd behavior to have been like, you know, you know what, I'm not going to do pink hair. It was red. Like, winky blue. Oh, no. Red? It was red. It was bright, right.

Yeah. I don't know. It was a risk. It was a risk that in that moment did not really pay off. But I think that if your goal is automatic legibility, I think wicked is number one. And if your goal is to have a little more fun, you could dress as like wicked merch. And instead of dressing, you know, as the witches, you could dress as like the pink and green swiffer mops that are contaminating a target near you. And don't mop. Me and Mupp. Jody's like, I really, I want to explain to you.

I'm dressed as Wicked merch. And if you would like some attention, you could do that. Okay. And I love the idea of Wicked because Wicked came out after Halloween last year. So we actually haven't had like a wicked Halloween. This is the first Wicked Halloween. And next year it'll be too late. Exactly.

Now's your time. Strike while the iron's hot. Okay. Outside of anything else on the list that you're like, this this would be legible to me. I would understand what this is. I have no idea what Daredevil is. I don't know if that's embarrassing to admit or not.

No, I have no clue. I would say there are, I'm not the faintest clue. I would say there are some people who watched all of Daredevil this year and were like, I don't know what Daredevil is. So I wouldn't worry about it. I just love that like most of these things, I couldn't tell you a lot about them, but I'm familiar, you know? And then I just want to pull out, uh, yeah.

No, that's, that's really it. I think everything else. Yeah, I mean, I speak like conversational Superman, Fantastic for Squid Game. I know, I visually know a lot of these. And obviously, yellow jackets would be big for me. Yeah. Okay. So outside of I recognize this, what ideas did we bring?

Do you guys want to alternate your ideas of what you brought to the table as you think these are great? I want Jody to go first because I sort of think we might have chosen the same thing. It's possible. But, okay, and I swear I'm not trying to be a teacher's pet here. My immediate first thought for Halloween costumes this year is twofold, and it comes from weapons. And I don't know who all you've talked to, but like, obviously, Aunt Gladys is a go-to. Right. Visually stunning. I would prefer that we keep it to natural redheads, but I'm willing to share. You're going to open the door to other people?

Yeah. Wow. I'm willing, but I'm going to respect it more. from a redhead. Okay. A lot of people, when we talked about weapons on We're Obsessed, were pretty eager for me to do that at Halloween. But pivot point.

A smear of lipstick. It's so good. The big glasses, the wig, even if you are a natural redhead. Still with the wig. Obviously still wig. A lot of accessory opportunities, the magic tree, the stick, loose hair. So that could be fun. And you could really blow that out of the water.

if you want a little more attention and you want to explain, obviously, I'm rooting for couples costume, hot dog, tray, couple. I couldn't believe that you hadn't said hot dog yet. I just wanted to set it up. Is this on your list, Nora? So this is one that I was sure Jody would account for, but this actually wasn't where I thought that we were going to overlap. Are we pro couples costume in general or are we anti?

How do we feel about it? If it's good, I'm pro. And I'm pro group costumes. as well. I think, like, one, there's safety in numbers and two, it's a real opportunity to innovate the format. Okay, Nora. What do you have? Okay, well, why don't I give you a group costume? Okay, great.

So I think, and I wonder if Jody was going to bring this up. One thing that we spent a lot of time on and had a lot of fun with over in our little corner of the podcasting world was the Ashton Hall morning routine. And while I'm sure there are a lot of people who are going to try to do that as a costume for Halloween, I want to encourage people to think about it as a group costume. because I think the ideal, nor this is interesting because I thought of it. And I was like, I can't really think of how to do it successfully. You do it with five people. Five is the perfect number because I think these are the steps in the morning routine. And you're not going to encapsulate the whole thing because famously it's incredibly

long and takes several hours. But you're going to hit the notes that I believe need to be hit. And so one person does mouth tape. One person has to be mouth tape. And that's the person who doesn't want to explain their costume all night. Exactly. Yeah, perfect. Couldn't be Jody.

Yeah. Is going to be Saratoga water dental hygiene. So that person needs to have a blue glass bottle of Saratoga spring water and they need to be brushing their teeth. They need to have a toothbrush. Incredible. This is actually probably good for someone who worries about their oral hygiene in conjunction with Halloween, the consumption of candy sugar. Number three, this needs to be someone with a little bit of upper body strength. because they are going to need to carry around a bucket of ice water and incrementally dunk the face.

Okay. A constant facial plunge throughout the night. Yeah, just like, you know, from time to time. Okay. Number four, banana facial. This is actually incredibly simple. You just need to rub your face with a banana. I want, Nora, I want you think about hour five of banana facial choice of the evening.

At first I was like, Onora has come up with like a wonderfully low maintenance costume. Like it's mouth tape. It's a bottle of Saratoga. And now we're rubbing bananas on our faces. Banana facial. Now we're like several hours into the evening and we still have banana on our face. I just want to like a cooler of ice. I think I just want to like give people a little point of recommendation.

Back up banana. Oh. Because I don't think you're going to want to be rocking one single. Got it. Yeah. Pocket banana. Okay. And then number five is critical. Faceless woman arms.

And this person has to be willing to separate themselves from the group occasionally and then just like come in from the side and appear only sort of like to the elbow and just sort of hand over snacks or avocado toast and then disappear into the background never to be seen again. I call that one. Yeah. Are you open to a six? Are you open to a six? Jody has been. I'm open to a six. I have an edit. The biggest thing from the ashtra, you're really focusing on like the utility

of the morning routine, which is smart. But the biggest moment from the Ashton Hall morning routine was when he dives into the pool for four minutes straight. You have to have like, you have to have a time. So you have to have one person in a swimsuit fully also wearing like a Rolex and he was wearing like $20,000 worth of jewelry. And I think time. timestamps. It's like 7 a.m. And then all of a sudden, unexplained time jump. This could even be a seven person costume and you could have one person at the beginning at the dive and another person at the end of the dive.

I feel like this is a costume that has endless potential for expansion. However big you want this costume to be. Yeah, if you're like a college sports team who wants a group costume. Someone could be backup banana. I'm just saying. Like if you wanted to add back, like someone has backup band. minutes of devotional time, which he does before his big call of the morning. Someone could be journaling. Yeah, there's a lot of journaling.

It's a lot of options here. Nora, innovative, exciting. Love this. Jody. It's next on your list. Trying to decide if I want to go really niche or big. But I got a couple popular big hitters in me still before I go like meme territory. I'm going to say, couples costume, fine. Do it. It's been done. I have no problem with it.

If you want kind of like a dramatic costume, like something that will cause some drama in your life, I'm imagining like someone in college, a young woman in college who has an impressive roster lineup of boys who are interested in her. And I'm thinking three-way costume of the summer I turned pretty main, Love Triangle, which does a couple of things. It's popular. Everyone's watching it. It also lets one of the guys in your roster know, I don't like you. Yeah. And this isn't forever. In fact, nobody likes you. Please put on this bleach blonde curly wig. I suggested to Chris Ryan that he and his wife, Phoebe, go as a couple's costume. And I thought it should be Jeremiah and the chocolate cake as the couple's costume from the summer I turned pretty. Deep pull. How do you,

how do you feel about this? He was like, I think if I showed up as Jeremiah, I would be divorced, so I can't do that. Yeah, it's like sort of insulting to tell Chris Ryan to dress up as Jeremiah, but it's very complimentary to he and his wife to say that they are so deeply in love as Jeremiah was with that glazed chocolate cake.

With chocolate cake. I love it. Nora, what do you have? I was just going to say, I think for my really, like, like really well-known costume, people would get it, but is also still sort of,

like our culture, meme culture, it's Katie Perry in space. That was on my We're Obsessed sort of sub list was Katie Perry. Your prediction. Yeah. Girl bosses in space. It's kind of, it could go easy to intermediate to difficult. You're just in the space costume, but you could bring accessories. You could have her list.

You hold up a completely illegible tracklist. You know the track list. It's you cannot read it. It's written in a different language. You kind of bust out into what a wonderful world every 10 minutes. I love this. When you know to do it When the other guy is putting on his banana facial,

you're like, oh, it's my time to do a wonderful world. It's time. All right. Nora, what else do you have? Okay. Nicole Kidman post both divorces. Vogue cover Nicole Kidman? Not Vogue cover.

Okay. No. So we all know the Tom Cruise hands in the air. That just requires a little bit of sort of 90s revival style. Choices, perhaps. Your highest heels. Your highest heels, a sort of pedal pusher, Capri, I believe. And a patterned top, probably a little bit of work with the hair.

And then the hand gesture is going to do a lot for you. And then the second one, I think wigs are acceptable because it is Nicole Kidman we're talking about here. We're going to need to rock a bang. as Jody and I discussed the other day, the most crisp poplin white tuxedo shirt, you can possibly get your hands on. Chanel if you can find it.

Right, right, right, right. And a wide leg gene. And just the ethos of, what is the word? It's not angry, but it's sort of fortitude. You need to express a certain type of fortitude. And so I think this is an ideal costume for two women.

Okay. And I highly recommend somebody try to pull it off. Do we need the accessory children as part of? I don't think we should bring them into it, but that's not really for me to decide. Let's leave the children out of it. But if you have kids could be a family costume. Great family costume. The kids will love it. The kids will love it. They may not understand it, but they'll love it. Jody, follow up question for you. Is this a redhead only costume or are non-gendered allowed to be Nicole Kibman? It's a great question and thank you for asking. I was thinking

of the first divorce photo famously from Tom Cruise hands in the air, that's a good one for natural redheads because she has her natural hair going in that. Chanel, great for if you're looking to wear a wig. And I really like this pull, Nora, because, like, yeah, slutty Halloween is fun, and we all want to look hot. But what if you could look timelessly gorgeous like she does in her current revenge look? Yeah, even better. Have you ever really gone down a bad path of trying to do a hot Halloween costume?

Nora, sounds like you have a story? This sounds like a question that is really actually I have a story. Yeah, no, totally. I don't want to be like, no, I've always pulled it off, but what are you talking? Yeah, Nora, what happened? Let's see, when would this have been? This would have been Halloween of, I think, 2011. I was a junior in high school.

There was a huge snowstorm in Massachusetts, instructive to know that I went to boarding school. So, like, we were all going to sleep there. And we had a Halloween dance. And my friends and I, and also there were five of us, we decided to go as slutty telitubbies. And we all feel like there was a pretty foundational issue here. Yeah.

No, everything was wrong and bad. We all went to American Apparel and we bought like body con t-shirt dresses in all of the colors. Right. And then we got pipe cleaners and made the little thingies to go on the head. And everybody had their like most Victoria's secret push-up bra. But then we were just the telitubbies. And one of us had the wrong color or like a non-forkman. color because there were too many of us. And then there were three feet of snow. And I just remember

trudging from my dorm with all of my slutty telotubby friends in my slutty telotuby outfit to the gym, which was like a quarter of a mile away through three feet of snow and just thinking like I'm living, guys. Really important Nora lore question incoming, which telotuby were you? I was the blue one. Okay. I was the blue one. Was I the one that didn't have a color? That's why I was just like, I think I might have a yellow and a purple and a red and a green, right?

I think I was the non-representative telitubby. I love how early in the story you're like somebody was wearing a non-color. I couldn't tell you who it was. Google is telling me that the blue teletubby was tinky winky. Okay, you were tinky winky. Pretty notable by name. But he's blue. I think he's blue.

It, they are blue. bluish purple. So Tinky Winky was, Tinky Winky. Is that the purple one? I think that's a target of like the evangelical white. Yeah, the purple queer one. The Mets purple.

I don't believe there is a blue. Tinky was the one who got in trouble with like Jerry Falwell for having a purse. Yes. I don't believe you were a real Tink, a real Teletubby color. I think it's neon green and red and yellow and purple. And that's okay. Yeah, that's right. I support you as the fifth extra telotubby.

And I'm glad you have this fun. I just don't know why we did it anyway. There was a baby teletubby, which were called tidily tublies that was blue. Okay. That sounds worse. Does not sound way worse? Sexy baby telotubby. Okay.

You know what this makes me think of? This would be pretty niche, but Jody and I would get it and we would love it. The new generation American girl dolls who all have really, really Gen Z pastimes. Yes. Like blue hair, a blue-haired one. Yeah, and Samantha's great-great-granddaughter wants to be a DJ. Right. Well, Nora, I was going to say that you could dress up as Samantha, the American Girl doll, which

would be pretty recognizable, but old because she is the great-great-grandmother to the current American Girl doll of the year. So elderly, Elderly Samantha. Does she still have the, like, kicky little plaid dress and the tights, though? You know she definitely does. I love it. With the little satin belt. Yes.

Great. Love this. That's a great. Nora, I'm just saying you could really pull this off. Elderly Samantha. I could start a school for girls. You could definitely start a school for slutty Delatovey. Slutty elderly.

And I will. All right. Jody, what else is on your list? Okay. If we're going to the We're Obsessed Halloween Party and only, I don't know, this actually is broader. I have two for the We're Obsessed Halloween Party. the first, I think some other people from other parties could get, which is, of course, Robbie Williams as a CGI monkey in the Robbie Williams biopic.

This is incredible work. This is incredible work from you. Really, really good. At Discuss film, Twitter once famously said, when they put out the first photos from the movie, Robbie Williams' life story, dot, dot, dot, except he is a monkey. Can I ask a question? Yeah. Yes.

How do you do this in a way that different? differentiates Robbie Williams look-like monkey from monkey. It's in the clothing, right? You're wearing a hat. You're wearing a varsity jacket. You're singing near constantly and frankly snorting a lot of cocaine. It's actually, I thought you were going to say, like, how do you make yourself look that much like a monkey, which would be difficult? The Robbie Williams aspect is very easy.

He jumps off the page. I think, yeah, you could do red tracksuit. You could do all black suit with the white tie. That's an iconic look. The poster look, which is tuxedo red rim sunglasses. So monkey, but make it Robbie Williams. I think this is a great idea. And here's another thing I just thought of.

If you have several Halloween parties to go to and you don't want to wear the same costume and you're already doing Robbie Williams dot, dot, dot, except he is a monkey, you could also do another meme costume, which is that you're just dressed up as a gorilla and you are the gorilla that beat 100 men. Right. Yes.

That's also a great costume, group costume for 101 people. I have to say, as I was trying to expand my ideas outside of the ring, to predict, like, in my own mind, be prepared for what you might bring. And can I just tell you nothing could have prepared me for slutty telotubby or a number of other things that we have heard here today? I was trolling through the sort of like meme ideas. And the only overlap I've seen so far is. is Gorilla versus 100 men. That's the only one that you've, that is a non-super niche,

we're obsessed, original idea, which I love. Right. We're innovating here. We're innovating. That is a meme that truly is of the internet. Like, it doesn't go back to a movie or a TV show or a headline or anything else. It's just of the internet,

but so many people heard it and attempted to do the math on it, women in STEM, that it is popular enough. What if I gave you one you really couldn't be prepared for? And then I'll stop. Never stop, Jody, please. Something that we do over on We're Obsessed is something called real headlines that sound fake. And I have to say, the one that has been most impactful to us.

No. And the one that could not possibly be understood at any party except the We're Obsessed Halloween party. And that also even there would require some explaining. Nora, I want to do this. Joanna needs to know is that there was once a headline. I'm trying to think if I need to ask if you know who the person is first.

I'm just going to say it. Should we do it together? Can you say it for memory? Yeah. Breonna chicken fry lapaglia is trying on Jords in her bisexual fashion era. Quote, or quote,

quote, I've been taking. Making risks. Okay. Well, one of you just read that out without just for clarity. Yes. Jody. But I am shocked that we could do that.

It's beautiful. Brianna chicken fry La Paglia is trying on jorts in her bisexual fashion area, colon, quote, I've been taking risks. So describe. This is done a lot. Describe the costume. The costume is simply trying out jorts in your bisexual fashion area. It is when you just get to wear jorts to. to, you could, you know,

you could carry chicken. Just like a little bit of backstory to this. Please. Sure, do you think she needs it? It seems clear to me. The thing that we loved about this so much was that the thrust of the article was that really what she was doing was trying on dating women. Oh.

And the Jorts just got really centered in the article. She was like, yeah, I've been doing a lot of new things. I've been going on dates with women. And I've been trying out what she was basically saying were like longer. jorts. Yeah, this is not a Daisy Duke situation. Is this a good euphemism, though? Like,

to discuss like... Trying on jorts? Yeah, she's been trying on jorts. You know, she's been trying on jorts, you know? She's just been trying on jorts, you know. And if it comes through loud and clear in your costume that your jorts are bisexual, then that is going to be a win. But it is going to be difficult to do at other Halloween parties. I think this is a group costume for the we're obsessed crowd. And it requires three people, though, because you can do

the jorts and then you've got two people to give you the bisexual lighting while you do it. Right? Yeah. Just imagine being- Oh, Joe, you cracked it. I didn't know that we were going to crack it. Imagine being followed around by someone giving you bisexual lighting all evening. Does that not sound like the dream for all of us, jorts or no, you know?

I can imagine nothing better than having personal lighting following me around at all times, let alone bisexual. Crossover costume, you do this, but you're also Jeremiah. The most con-inic. The iconically bisexual character to ever exist. Iconically bisexual. I know like five things about that TV show based on you guys, and that's one of them. One of them is a gerbaya Fisher is bisexual.

Love that. Anything else? Nora, anything else you want to share with the crowd? Oh my gosh. What was I just thinking of? And now I'm forgetting it because I'm thinking of bisexual shorts and Brianna Chiroxie It's very distracting them on and her bisexual fashion. I'm still in my bisexual era, which is smutty television.

tubbies, but I don't think I'll ever leave slutty telotubbies, honestly. It's life-changing to me. But, yeah. Well, on the, on the, I'll give you some time. On the jorts front, on the denim front. Are there anything, any meme-centric costumes you think we should avoid? I saw someone suggest going as this Sydney-Sweeney jeans ad. And I would say, don't.

No. So. I don't think we're there yet with eugenics jeans as we call. You don't have to do eugenics gene. It's fine. Yeah. You don't have to do that. What would be fun, though, as a group costume is like the gap ad.

Yes. I agree. Yes. And I think would get you a lot more of the kind of attention you want, which, again, if you're looking to get attention from your Halloween costume. If not, it's mouth there. I do think that this is a really good year. And these were on your.

your House of Our Culture List. Like, it's a great year for sexy Frankenstein's monster. Because you're just dressing as Jacob Allorty as Frankenstein's Monster. It's also that gives you a wonderful opportunity to be kind of like pompous about reminding people that the monster is not named Frankenstein. And it's so fun. And that's fun. That's a good time for everybody.

Yes. Another sort of more annoying Wicked costume is to dress as. the Tin Man or the Scarecrow and just kind of like lightly spoil Wicked for good for anyone who doesn't know what's about to happen. Spoilage for the Wizard of Oz. And that's one for my other culture theater nerds. White Lotus, a crossover interest of ours. Is there, other than obviously going as Parker Posey's character with a caftan and the pill bottles, like are there any other Like, would you go as the incest brothers? Like, is that a good couple's costume? Like, what do you think? That's a horrible good couples costume.

And you could bring in a third who's the blender for... Yeah, I do think... I do think Poison Blender is good. Poison Blender's good. And, I mean, I would just like to support anyone who wants to do a low-key Halloween costume and has a pretty good bad Southern accent on deck and also has a closet full of cap tans. Parker Posey's a good one.

Yeah. You have a tagline all night. Yeah. Pappers. I have a couple friends who kind of morph into that when they drink. Like, just like lightly. So it's sort of like you don't need to talk about me on the podcast like this, Nora. This is like when Nora was like, someone showed up in a rogue color as a telotubby.

I don't know who it was. She's like, I'm like, I don't know who it was. She's like, I don't know. I have one-to-one-ish friends who really... Go full park or posy. Nora, did you think of the thing that I was stalling for time for you. I've lost it. It's completely God.

I'm so sorry. That's okay. I support you. It's okay. I think we've done a lot of good work here today. I think we've done some excellent work here today. I think a lot of House of Our listeners have learned new things about the culture. And we always love a learning moment here on House of Our.

So I really appreciate you coming here, sharing your corner of culture with me. Any other, like, to don't for Halloween in general? Cautionary tales. I think my, I don't have any... I mean, I do think my most successful hot costume ever was Beyonce from the holdup video in the Roberto Cavali yellow dress with a battle. And I think, like, this is definitely not a... don't. This is a sort of monoculture. You're going to look hot almost no matter what you do is just

to do Cowboy Carter, any of it, anything from her, like any thigh high boot with sparkles. That's a great DIY costume. And I say that to say, my only don't is I just think the key to Halloween is confidence. And if you don't want to dress up, don't dress up. But if you do want to dress up, Do it. Own what you're wearing. Go all the way in. Do it with your whole chest. If you want to be a slutty, tell a tubby.

Do it. Get that frostbite. And Nora did. Get that frostbite on your knees. Do it. No, because Nora, you did it. You had a good time. Do you look back at it with upon reflection as what's that a good idea?

Maybe. But at the time it was good. Maybe. Maybe. I look back on it with joy. Yeah. And the blue sort of frostbite that you might have. gotten as you trudged the snow matched the blue of your outfit. And so I think that that is a perfect

moment for you. That's so much snow. Absolutely. Nor any to don'ts for you before you go. No, I agree with, I agree with Jody. I do, I have, I'm all for going all for it in your Halloween costumes. I do think that the cat costume is unfairly vilified. Like I think going as a cat for Halloween has become a symbol of like, you didn't care. You didn't care. And as a cat lover, I just think that that's, I'm just not for it. I think that we need to stop doing this. I think it's gorgeous to keep it simple. Yeah. Like to just, you know, go. If you want to go as a cat, go as a cat, don't make yourself go as Brianna Chicken Frilopaglia in her bisexual Jorts era. But if you do, please make sure to credit Jody and Nora from the We're Obsessed podcast. Y'all are the best. Thank you so much.

for coming. Bye. Oh, no. I just remembered what I was. Guess what? We're still recording. Let's go. Okay. All three, and I am counting it as three, because we can all feel what's going to happen, Jennifer Lopez, Ben Affleck marriages. Yes. You need three, you need six people to represent three separate couples here. I'm not really concerned about gender or whatever. You just need six people. and you need for each one. And so you need to represent the early days and what we just went through and what Jody and I feel strongly

we are soon to collectively experience once again. I can't believe this is. The key to this, obviously, other than like, you know, some referential styling, the thing you have to master is a smolder between two individuals of such epic proportions. A palpable tension.

That it is palpable not only in the room, but when photographed and disseminated widely, you look at those photos and understand that those are two people who simply cannot be a part. Maybe they're not in some ways meant to be together, but they cannot be apart. And it's that tension that keeps us coming back and keeps us watching.

If you have the means, I don't, but if you do, congratulations, to add a sort of meta portion to this by unwisely financing your costume partners' projects, sort of over and over again. Sort of a producer aspect to this costume. Like a producer aspect of the costume, then that would also be encouraged.

Can I tell you where you're going to get your money back on that? Is that this is a costume you can reuse for decades to come. Because it will only keep growing with the, you know, seven to eight more marriages we know we have in that. Can you describe future marriage? Like, what does future marriage look like? That's the hardest one to happen. Probably a hovercraft.

I'm going to go straight to hovercraft. Yeah. Like Jetsons. Like Jetsons, but make it Jailo and Ben Affleck. And the most important thing is that Jennifer Lopez will look exactly the same for every marriage. So good. Yeah. If you are going to be fulfilling the Jennifer Lopez role in any number of these marriages,

both past, present and future, you're going to start working on your skincare routine right now. Right now. it's already too late. This has been the best. Thank you so much. Bye. Thank you so much to all the guests who joined us on the episode today. Thank you to everyone who worked on the episode.

Our Juno Ram Capel for hurting all the cats and making sure that everything happened as smoothly as it did on this episode. Thank you so much. Thank you to John Jones and to Carlis Sher Boga. Thank you to Jomea Dinner on on the social. A reminder that next week we're doing a mailbag episode, 9 of the 7 Kingdom's sort of. centric, but also anything else you want to email us about,

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