House of R - The 2026 Hype Draft
Episode Date: January 29, 2026Mal and Jo are set to draft their most hyped films, TV shows, and everything in between of 2026! Sean Fennessey and Rob Mahoney also join in to add to the annual chaos that is picking from the best th...e new year has to offer. (00:00) Intro(03:42) The draft order(06:18) Looking back at the 2025 Hype Draft(12:16) The rules(25:47) Sean’s no. 1 pick(29:14) Mal’s no. 1 pick(32:21) Jo’s no. 1 pick(35:16) Rob’s no. 1 pick(37:39) Rob’s no. 2 pick(42:56) Jo’s no. 2 pick(45:58) Mal’s no. 2 pick(50:36) Sean’s no. 2 pick(52:05) Sean’s no. 3 pick(56:03) Mal’s no. 3 pick(01:01:14) Jo’s no. 3 pick(01:06:30) Rob’s no. 3 pick(01:08:42) Rob’s no. 4 pick(01:11:39) Jo’s no. 4 pick(01:14:59) Mal’s no. 4 pick(01:17:45) Sean’s no. 4 pick(01:21:11) Sean’s no. 5 pick(01:25:03) Mal’s no. 5 pick(01:27:57) Jo’s no. 5 pick(01:29:37) Rob’s no. 5 pick(01:30:39) Honorable mentions Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna RobinsonGuests: Rob Mahoney and Sean FennesseyProducer: Carlos ChiribogaSocial: Jomi AdeniranAddition Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome back to House of R. I'm Joanna Robinson. That is the beautiful Malia Rubin.
That is the wonderful Rob Mahoney. And Sean Fennessey is also here.
What the fuck?
Brutal.
Welcome back to the pod, Sean Fennacy.
Thanks for having me back.
My mortal enemy on the hype draft pods.
It's great to have you.
My annual visit to one of my favorite podcasts that otherwise pretends I don't exist.
I hear you.
You're welcome anytime. Okay.
Anytime.
It's nice to be here.
So you're not destroying anybody this year, but you are.
You're still planning to destroy people in this draft.
I don't know that's my energy.
Is that what I'm bringing to the table here?
I'm just here for 90 minutes of fun with my friends.
That's it.
That's all I got today.
What are you here?
Yeah, Rob, how do you feel about being here?
I feel great.
Okay.
I mean, I will win this draft as I win all draft.
So I guess I am here to destroy somebody.
What if you ever want a draft?
I've won every draft that I've ever participated in.
Deeply untrue.
In the logic and space of my own mind, anything is possible, Joe.
All right.
So this hype draft has been a little bit delayed,
but that does not mean we don't have a lot to talk
about in terms of what's coming this year, but just for programming reminders, we are in the thick
of it with the Nine of the Seven Kingdoms. So every Sunday, there's an episode of Talk the Thrones.
Molly Rubin, Chris Ryan, yours truly. Yeah.
I'm in the CRC right now. I feel like I'm channeling his, great, powerful. Yeah.
I feel assured in my convictions about everything but how to spell the names of Westerosy figures.
Fitching for a Zinn or like, how are you feeling?
Yeah. You feel tall? Yeah. I feel fueled by nicotine substance.
I have a sudden urge to put on a Philly's hat, which I've never felt before in my life.
So, yeah.
Perish the thought.
CR.
Yeah.
On Tuesday, House of Our Deep Dives into Nine of the Seven Kingdoms.
And those could be anywhere like three times as long as the episode, four times as long as the episode itself, who's to say?
That's what you're here for.
What's the vibe?
Is it good?
That's great.
We love the show.
I've seen the first episode, but not the second yet.
It's eligible for the draft today.
You can select it today.
I'm aware of that.
I enjoyed the premiere.
It is, but should it be?
Yes.
This is like retroactive rule.
It's a 2026 hype draft.
It's only because the hype draft's a little delay this year that it feels if.
I get it.
I get it.
We'll get to the rules in a second.
Last but not least,
Buffy Season 3 Part 2 we're doing next week.
So that is what is happening on House of R.
Are you Buffy Watch?
I don't know if you ever watched Buffy Vy Vassel.
I did watch a couple of seasons as a young lad.
Yeah.
Did you want to fuck Ruper Jiles?
Wow.
That's my experience so far.
Didn't come up back then when I was watching.
It wasn't really on my mind.
Revis it and get back to me.
No, but
I mean, SMG, you know, that's
Very powerful. Formative.
Yeah. Yeah. I was recently
revisiting Andy Greenwald's book about emo
and I had forgotten that Jim Adkins of Jimmy
World was obsessed. Oh, wait, no, sorry,
Chris Crabb of Dashboard Confessional,
apparently obsessed with Sarah Michelle Geller to a point where he
had to stop, like, talking about it in her interview.
So, who among us?
Oh, wow. Making her feel uncomfortable. That sounds great.
She popped back up in the, I know what you did last summer
sequel last year.
And it was, she was the only good thing about the movie.
It was really remarkable.
She brought it for like three minutes in a dream sequence.
That's definitely true, actually, of that movie, which I did see.
Okay, so we are doing a snake-style draft.
Yes.
I definitely understand what that means.
You do it means it goes like this.
You're a draft, bro.
You're a draft, bro.
Seasoned vet.
And we four are the drafters.
We have a slightly different lineup this year.
Speaking of lineup, Carlos, will you let us know who is drafting first today?
Is that Ben Lindbergh's music? Yes. Hello, hypebees. Hello friends. It's Ben from Buttonmash. Sorry I can't be joining you in person. Look, I know last year's draft was not my strongest showing, but did I deserve to get relegated for that? No, I know that's not what happened. I wish I could be out there not only to enjoy your company, but also because it's sunny and 60 in L.A. Whereas here in New York, I have to slit a Tonton stomach just to survive dropping my daughter off at school. Must be nice.
and some FOMO, not to be with you this year, but I'm glad I could crash the party and contribute
in some form by determining the draft order, or at least relaying the randomly determined
draft order, which I will do now. And the first pick in the 2026 House of Our Hype Draft
goes to Sean Fennock. Everything coming up Sean these days. He's got Luis Robert Jr. He's got
Boba Chet. He's got Freddie Peralta. Now he's got the number one pick in the House of Our Hype
draft coming off a strong showing in 2025.
When he drafted indoor season two, a show he was so hyped for, he did eventually watch
it several months later and agreed it was good.
Glad you're on board, Sean.
Next up, Mallory Rubin has the second pick in this draft and presumably has plotted out
all sorts of scenarios for what she will take with it.
Third, Joe, Joanna Robinson, you are drafting third.
Congratulations or condolences.
And finally, fourth.
Last but not least, Mr. Mahoney, you have the fourth pick in this draft, which feels appropriate
because you're filling my slot and I drafted last last year. It's our lot in life, I'm afraid.
Good luck to you all. All that I ask is that if none of you drafts GTA6, that I retain
team control for one more year because one of these years and or decades, it will eventually
come out. Maybe I can get credit for that in absentia. Good luck with all your drafting, hope to
rejoin you in future years for now.
I am hyped to hear what you select.
Wow.
Oh, thank you, Ben.
Bany boy.
For that bullshit draft.
This is just crazy that you're going to get the Odyssey in this draft after.
What if I don't want the Odyssey?
Well, maybe you don't after you spent $924.
26.
Let's not tip our hands about anything that we care about.
Animal Farm is right there.
I want to look back.
I want to look back for a second.
I don't think there's a bad pick.
a bad order, honestly.
Okay, sure.
I don't.
Except it's me, but that's okay.
As Ben alluded to, and I did want to bring up,
many people are saying that Sean won the hype draft last year
simply because he picked and or season two.
Yeah.
Some people are saying I won because I pick sinners, but that's okay.
I think those are the two best picks on the draft draft.
Are there some people in the room with us right now who are saying this?
I say it to myself in the mirror.
Sinners a wonderful movie.
But here's a question.
Sean, you recently, as anyone who follows you on social media knows, watched Andor Season 2.
I did. I saw it.
I believe Rob Mahoney has still not watched Andor's season two.
So I would like you to make the pitch to Rob Mahoney.
That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
First of all, the pitch isn't need to be made.
I'm not here to throw anyone under the bus.
I've been trying for months.
This was supposed to be a household concern.
And it was never quite the right time in my household to watch it.
You're blaming Elizabeth who's not here to defend herself?
I'm just saying.
I completely respect that.
Sometimes the power's out of your hands in these things.
Absolute bullshit.
I relate deeply to that issue.
That's something that I also encounter from time to time.
I did not worry about that when it came to watching Endor Season 2.
Just speed ran that at the early days of the year,
sending my child to camp when I had four free hours
and trying to knock through as many episodes as possible.
I've never watched less television in my life,
so now I have to kind of really make an effort to do it
because I'm obviously quite movie diseased.
I mean, I don't have to make the case for it.
There are hundreds of hours.
of Ringer podcast explaining why it's so special.
All from us, and then there are also pods from other people too.
There's House of R, and then there's a bunch of fuckboys.
I'll say this.
I have a lot of strong feelings about the show.
Very much lived up.
It's very rare that anything lives up in popular culture, let alone anything in life these days.
The thing that I liked about it best is I am in the middle of this experience of seeing all the Star Wars films with my daughter.
And so I am already in a Star Wars state of mind.
And I'm a fan of Rogue One.
I don't think it's a perfect movie, but I've always been fond of it.
And the series made everything about that period in the storytelling.
That film, A New Hope, Empire, which has always been my favorite stretch.
Like any normal human.
Star Wars, crucially.
Not familiar with that.
For the first time in my life, after finishing Andor's season two, I thought to myself, should I watch the Clone Wars?
Should I go further than I have to this point?
because I felt very inspired by what was possible inside of this container.
And I've struggled with some of the Star Wars TV shows.
I love the first season of Andor, season two, thematically, performance-wise,
production design-wise.
This is just kind of breathtaking across the board.
You don't need to be told that.
You know it's going to be good.
But this is a spirited telling of exactly why I should be jumping in.
I'm thrilled to hear that the many Bothans who died to bring you this information mean more to you than ever before.
Yeah, I mean, Gorman, you know.
I was just hoping that the.
the fantasy bump would work better than me telling Rob again and again to watch Andor.
As if your advocacy is falling on deaf ears. Look, this show is going to happen for me. Maybe even this
week, perhaps. I would like to do a quick exercise. Sean, based on last year's draft,
what is the thing you're, is the thing you're proudest of drafting and or season two?
And is there anything that you wish maybe you hadn't drafted? Would it be a Night of the Seven
Kingdoms which didn't even come out last year? I don't have any regrets because, though I've only
seen the premiere, I really liked it. And I loved the idea of kind of redefining what a Game of Throne show
can be. Wait till you get to the second
episode. Gigantic cock right at the start.
Okay. That isn't specifically what I meant.
Nor is that really all that different from Game of Thrones
as I recall. But, um...
No, you've never seen anything like this on a throne show.
Wow. I just saw the Bone Temple guys. One of the biggest
dicks you'll ever see is on a zombie
in the Bone Temple. Yeah. So, Arlenzarin's giving
Samson a run for his money. Truly.
Really? Yes. Yeah. Genuinely.
God bless. Samson's slander on this pot. I won't
know.
No, Mallory. What is the, what is the pick you made last year that you're
proudest of, is there anything you wish you could have a do-over on?
I feel pretty good about picking Superman in the first round. I enjoyed that movie, and it was
certainly a zeitgeist animating film. I would take a do-over on all of the following picks, I think,
all four of them, which are Mission Apostle Final Recreting. I stand by Paddington and Peru,
honestly. I'll take a do-over on rounds two, three, and four. Okay, you did Daredevil
Born Again, Squid Game, Season 3, and Paddington, and Peru. Where was your list? I would say
sinners is the thing I'm proudest of.
Wildwood did not come out.
Thunderbolts I stand by.
Mickey 17, I liked a lot more
than other people liked it.
So actually like...
I liked it too for the record.
The most embattled, I would say,
is probably the last of a season two.
Which I liked, but was, you know,
not well liked across the board.
That is true.
And then Rob, if you...
What would have been your number one pick last year
of all the things that you're seeing on the...
I'm trying to put myself back in that headspace
of like, what was I genuinely optimistic about?
Because, yeah, and or I wasn't...
I had seen...
Season 1, so I probably would have picked Andor Season 2 out of the gate.
Superman, reasonably optimistic but also skeptical.
Fantastic 4 was reasonably optimistic but skeptical.
I think, honestly, seeing 28 years later on Ben's list is hardening to me.
And Ben should be proud of that pick.
It's a good pick.
Of plucking it.
I mean, the trailer was obviously bonkers, but also everything that movie turned out to be
in surprising and emotional ways.
That paid off in a way that even some of the great things on this grid did not.
Ben had a good draft.
I mean, obviously the actual kind of content.
success of Stranger Things Aside, it was a huge monoculture moment exceedingly rare. The thing that
stands out to me looking back, which we knew at the time we felt at the time, but is really clear in
hindsight, is that 2025 was a slight year in our universe, in the nerd culture universe. There just
wasn't that much stuff. That's so funny. Three of the four second round picks didn't come out last year.
But we're heading into a year where we're like, this is 2026, we're back. My memory last year, though,
was you were like, Superman's coming out, Fantastic Four is coming out. This is our year, baby. Last of us is coming out.
But it was like high, big things at the top and not as much depth.
There's a much larger field.
This year, you could kind of off the dome write down 75 things that are going to come out.
We're going to draft 20 titles.
You could go 50, 70, 80, 90, 100 deep without really trying?
I couldn't.
Much like Sir Arlen, you know.
Exactly.
70, 90 deep for sure.
All right.
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Hopefully, Ben Lindberg will not take this as another slight because it has nothing to do with
them not being here, but we have swapped out our animation category that we usually, where
usually slips in a video game with adaptations.
So we're doing TV show, movie, sequel adaptation, wildcard are the categories this year.
Here are some reminders.
Something like and or season two could be drafted in a sequel, not this year, obviously, because
is not going to be out this year, but last year could have been put in a sequels category
because follow-up seasons of television are being counted as sequels.
Yes, that's one of our weird little wrinkles here.
I like that wrinkle.
Yeah.
My question is, are all sequels also adaptations in the spirit of like best adapted screenplay, for example?
No.
Fuck the Academy.
No.
I'm just asking questions out here.
Okay, so you can only have an adaptation there.
You cannot have a sequel in that space.
Sequel is a category.
Adaptation is a category.
Movie TV sequel adaptation, Wildcard.
So animation is a sequel.
no longer standalone category, but you can pick an animated property in any of these categories.
But I would say there are some sequels that are also adaptations.
Absolutely.
bleed across the categories for sure.
I see.
So not mutually exclusive.
Previously published source text.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If it's an adaptation of a poem?
So the social reckoning.
A Frank Herbert novel?
A novel?
The social reckoning would be both.
I would say that that is definitively a sequel.
But not an adaptation.
It's an adaptation of real life events.
So that gets to your little rule that you wanted to talk about.
Journalism published in the Wall Street Journal.
That's an adaptation for sure on that front.
No question.
Okay.
However, that film is not eligible.
That's not part of the draft.
Don't worry.
It's not one of our rest.
You don't need to open your minds.
To what constitutes magic and science fiction.
You need to play by our rules on our podcast.
Okay.
So yeah, so many releases can go into more than one category.
What is eligible for selection?
Anything confirmed for a 2026 release or as we just discovered looking at our drafts last year,
anything reasonably expected to come out in 2026 is eligible.
So if they say,
coming, if they've said coming soon, and let's say they've already wrapped filming and you're like, surely the special effects won't take the entire year, but then sometimes it does.
Yeah. If you think, if you can make the case that it will come out this year, 2026, you can draft it. Any questions about that?
No.
Um, you can pick something that has already premiered as long as it started in 2026. For example, 28 years later, the boat temple.
Speaking of our guy Samson or a night of the seven kingdoms, etc., etc.
You cannot pick something that is still airing but premiered in 2025, so bad luck to the Percy Jackson and Fallout fans.
That's something I guess we say to our listeners anyway, because we haven't covered those.
Just found out there's the Percy Season 3 also comes out this year though.
That's true.
Percy right back in the mix.
There you go.
Back on the board.
Sean will be drafting it.
In terms of eligibility, as we already alluded to, anything nerd culture is easily defendable.
There are other things that I think we can make cases for of whether or not
Valerie and I would cover it on House of R.
I think specifically in certain adaptation spaces, we tend to sort of draw outside the lines.
Would you agree, Mallory?
You know, two hype drafts ago, I took Gladiator 2 in the second round, continuing the tradition of just really missing in the second round.
So you're getting ready for a sword and sandals sort of argument.
Then we sort of felt like we had to cover the movie in the pod because I made such a big deal about being able to draft it.
That was tough for us.
But, you know, we have our fun here.
So yeah, we can talk it through.
If there's a genre pushing selection, we'll workshop it in real time.
I think the date ones in hype drafts past, the date boundary pushing has always been like a pretty clear consensus from the group either way.
So two years ago, again, I tried to select the final season of Stranger Things.
I thought someone has to at least attempt it.
And I was instantly rejected by the group because there was obviously no chance that that show was going to come out in 2024.
it did not. It came out at the end of 2025. So, you know, we'll work it out together. We'll figure it out together. This is mostly film and television, but if you want to pick a video game in honor of Ben Lindberg, a novel, a comic, etc., you can. You're a big novel guy, right?
Love novels. Will you be selecting any romantically a year? Romantici novels? No, but I am definitely learning more about them because they are fully infecting Hollywood right now. Particularly romance, not romanticizing is a certain.
I would not say infecting.
I would say penetrating.
There she is.
There she is.
Big old Sir Orlin.
There she is.
Can't wait?
Give it a try.
Can't wait for the deep dive tomorrow
when we're reporting, Mallory.
Let Sir Orlin penetrate me?
Is that what you just asked me to give a try?
Maybe why not, but I meant give romantic a try.
It's very rewarding.
I don't know about infecting.
Here's what I'll say.
It's an extremely popular genre that people love and people in Hollywood are starting
to take that more seriously as they should.
We got a fourth wing update-ish.
Right.
Michael B. Jordan was like, we're working on it.
But I hope we get more heated rivalry less like Colleen Hoover.
That's a slightly adjacent genre.
Why are you saying that as if you've watched heated rivalry, which I know you haven't?
I'm just saying I'm more open to the possibility of it.
Heated rivalry is fantastic.
Colleen Hoover sucks.
Do you?
I would see the two most important shows of last year were Andor season two and
heathed rivalry genuinely.
Rob!
Inside Mallory, there are two wolves and those are them.
Did you see the guys with the torches?
Do you see them?
You know I did.
You know the alga was still working for me.
I know you did.
No idea what you were talking about.
Oh, man.
The two stars of Peter Rabbit really got to like carry the Olympic torches.
Oh, I was exciting.
What was it?
Monica.
I don't know where that was.
It's in Milan.
Well, where they are now.
They're going to Milan.
I don't know where they were.
That wasn't like a metaphor holding the torches.
Oh, carrying torches.
Very sweet.
It was a dick joke.
Damn it.
All right.
What's the goal today for Joanna to misinterpreted.
sex jokes as yearning jokes
to have fun to celebrate what awaits.
This is about excitement and anticipation
and not necessarily predicting
what will be good.
Mallory wrote these notes.
I think maybe looking at her hype draft
from last year.
No, we say that every year.
We say that every year.
I believe that.
I think that the hype draft,
the point of this
is to look ahead and anticipate.
Right.
Now, granted, it's the end of January.
Typically we do it at the beginning of January.
It makes a little more sense
than as an annual preview.
But we don't know if these things
are going to be good.
Sometimes they're great.
And that's energized.
and exciting. Sometimes they suck, and that is like despair-inducing. All we have is the possibility that we will get to share these things that we love and that mean things. That means something to us, right? Collectively, individually. So that is always, I think, the idea behind the hype draft. Then we try to pair that with like what my people vote for on an on an Instagram graphic, certainly. But this year I am going exclusively with what am I excited for? I think this is where your optimism bumped up against my cynicism. You know what I mean? And I feel like you, and I love that.
about you that you are going to vote with your heart and your mind and I'm going to vote with like,
do we, I have heard. I'm not sure. You know, it infects the hype. So we'll see. Well, how,
one of the questions without tipping picks, I was going to ask you like this year in particular,
there are a lot of personal faves in the mix, right? So do you have like, this is for everybody,
but starting with Joe, a strategy are you like, some of my favorite things in the entire world
are on this list. And I don't care if people are going to vote for them. The point is to build
a team of excitement that represents what's a lot of.
Well, absolutely, because what if someone took it from me, do you know?
If anybody here dared, I mean, they don't even know what we're talking about.
I think Rob thinks he knows what we're talking about, but that's not what we're talking about.
I'm just going to tell you right now, I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want.
And I don't know what you're talking about, but I will not let that infect my strategy.
You'll find out.
The question is just what round would find out.
I would never do that to you.
Rob is really good at taking the things that I want during a draft.
The thing that he thinks it might be.
He could take.
He can have that.
But the thing that it is,
no one else can have.
The things he thinks it might be.
Look,
you're talking about these things
as if they're mutually exclusive.
Here's the thing.
I'm going to do my draft
in the process.
I'm sure I will steal things
that all of you love
and I will speak for the common man
because I am the common man.
I'm at a table of coastal elites,
you know,
but like I am in touch
with ultimately the tastes of America.
Why are you touching to the red stinks right now?
I'm just saying.
I just lay on your dog.
I have to say a little thing.
You are the least common man
of anybody at.
table when it comes to your film page.
Over the last five years, what were the two cities you lived in?
No comment.
Okay.
My lawyer said I don't have to answer that.
Just start sprinkling the yawls in.
That's all it takes.
Talk about it.
All right.
Listen.
I'm from provincial Long Island, so I stand alone.
I stand apart on an island.
Quite literally apart.
Yes.
Just to check in your Knicks and Mets hats do have Marty Supreme A-24 logos on the side, right?
You did tell me that you secured those.
Just Mets, actually.
Just Mets, okay.
I think none of us get to.
to claim people, salt of the earth.
Let's zag, coastal elites, they're good?
They're good.
They were right?
You can vote.
Guess what?
They weren't.
I don't know.
You can vote for this on the Ring of Readerse Socials
and on Spotify episode page.
That's right.
And I will be whipping votes and we'll see what that does for me.
Okay.
Interesting.
I will not be doing that.
Who gives a shit?
I do.
Just like, God knows.
And or season two, you won, Sean, good job.
God knows.
Yeah.
He'll know.
If you do it, he'll know.
Is that what?
Are you once again applying, appealing to the, you know?
No, I'm reapplying to be in service of God.
And God is channeling through me good picks.
That's what's about to happen here.
Let's go.
Okay.
I'm so excited.
I love a draft.
On that genuinely returning note, let's start the draft.
So drafting first, reminder is Sean Fennessee,
and a reminder to you, Sean Fentasy, to when you make your pick of the Odyssey
or whatever the case may be that you pick first, say which category you're picking.
Okay.
I think that there are three potential moves here.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
I kind of want to talk them out.
Go for it.
You opposed to them being talked out?
You can talk them out, but are you then giving Mallory and me hints is what we should do next?
I don't give a shit.
I mean, Sean thinks I should pick.
Great.
Thank you.
We're at the top of the draft.
So there are some very obvious content.
I agree there is a top three, I think.
So obviously the Odyssey is very high.
hotly tipped for a variety of reasons.
It's likely to be one of the biggest movies of the year.
It's also going to be an awards contender.
It's Christopher Nolan's follow up to Oppenheimer.
You immediately thought Odyssey for me.
Well, again, you spent nearly your entire budget.
Yes.
But that was a little different.
In the big pick auction.
Because that...
You're going for your Tic-Tac toe.
Well, what I wanted to do is get under Chris's skin.
Yeah.
You succeeded.
Which worked.
That seemed like a...
That was mean.
I am very excited for the film, but I wouldn't say that it's my most
anticipated movie of the year.
Right.
And in fact, it was not on my most...
anticipated movies of the year list when we did it on the big picture.
Right.
So you'll be taking Clayface number one.
But when you talk about hype and trying to be true to the spirit of hype,
I'm significantly more hyped for another movie, which is Dune Part 3.
Okay.
That, yep.
The Dune movies are improving as they're going along.
I also just talked recently on a show about how whether or not this becomes a big
best picture contender, Denneville News is about to go to James Bondland and is not going to
maybe have as much creative freedom as I think he may be willing to exercise in Dune Part
3.
So I'm really stoked on that.
Okay.
What's your third and your top three here?
Then there's Project Hail Mary.
Not adventure's Tuesday number three.
Which.
As you know, it is one of our favorite books.
This is, this is, I texted you about this, Sean.
You know, we had a conversation about it.
Hugely anticipated, right?
Definitely the thing I've texted you the most about.
the last year. Wow. I was in the room
at Cinemacon when they premiered
the extended trailer for the film.
Yep. We were in the room at San Diego
Comic Con. That's right. Right?
Yeah. So got you beat by four months.
Just coastally shit
through and through, I got to say. I was in my room
watching on YouTube. Like the rest of America.
I'm not anticipating Project Hail Mary as much as I'm anticipating
the other two films. I'm excited for it. It's coming out really
soon. Very soon.
March. It is the first really big movie
of 2026. But I think it's
in third and then maybe there's
four and five are also
kind of interesting.
That's not what you would have said the third.
I would have said
Doomsday at three.
I'm surprised.
I've got some big concerns.
I'm very dubious about that.
I would just remind you
and this is up again
everybody's strategy can differ.
This is are you drafting
for personal excitement or are you like
drafting to appeal to the
ringerverse voting public?
No.
Because that's who's voting.
I'm just,
I don't know if you give a shit about that.
No, it's not cynical.
No, it's not cynical.
No, but I'm actually like film in our universe.
That's true.
I don't disagree with you, but I'm actually, I feel like people are a little chilly on it.
I'll say, I'm anticipating it.
I'm definitely excited to see it.
As you guys know, I love the last two Avengers films.
I'm kind of on paper in on anything Marvel and we'll watch anything Marvel.
But obviously they've really kind of filtered my interest over the last five years.
Doomsday falling in this draft would not surprise me at all.
And they could become a great value pick.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm just going to go with Dune Part 3.
That's the movie that I want to see the most.
Pretty annoying.
Yeah.
What category?
I think it's going in sequel.
Because there are some cool sequels that I like,
but nothing nearly as strong to me as Dune Part 3.
There's a lot of adaptations this year.
This is what feels crushing about being fourth in this draft.
I just have no shot at this movie in particular and The Odyssey in particular.
There's just no chance that they're going to fill.
filter down to me.
But you're going to get such a good second round pick.
We'll see.
I mean, I would have loved to have the sandworm in hand
versus have to go, you know, filtering through and find something in four and five.
There's a very, very, very minor risk in taking Doom part three.
One, it's currently dated for the same day as Avengers Dooms Day.
Dune will surely move up, right?
Well, the thinking had been that it would move into October or November for the longest time.
Warner Brothers has still not moved it.
And now those dates are getting filled.
including with some films we may draft here in October and November,
and it's suddenly looking like not as easy.
In terms of like a Sir Arland-esque, like slamming your cock on the table sort of move,
how do you feel about Marvel?
Is that what he does in the episode?
No, but he walks out of a like a cottage, a small cottage.
Oh, he went to the cottage.
He went to the cottage.
And he just takes a piss, very close to the door too close to the door.
And we hear some tales about his life and his legacy as we just watch him hold.
his giant cock.
Okay, but...
Thanks for asking.
I did that to myself, but...
Thanks for asking.
The countdown clock that Marvel put up for doomsday,
starting when the trailer released and now it's like up on those socials and stuff like that.
Do that feel like we're pissing all over this date and, you know...
For sure.
And I think they're also trying to...
I think that they know that the murmurs are...
Teppid.
This may not go well.
So they need to kind of like be really steely in the face of that.
But one thing that could have...
This isn't going to happen.
I don't think, but let's just give it a 1% chance.
What if they push Dune into early 2027?
And they say, we're grabbing just like the Dune Part 2, we're grabbing February or March.
And we're going to try to make another billion dollars in that place where we'll have a lot more open landscape,
especially if we don't think it's an Oscar movie.
Well, what do they do think it's an Oscar movie?
And the field is too crowded.
And they want to move into a-
If I'm them, I'm probably moving it to November 1st or whatever.
That first weekend of November, if I think it's a first show.
Best Picture contender, but we just saw Avatar Fire and Ash, number three, in a franchise installment with even more weirdness in the story, Missed Best Picture. So it's, there's a lot of...
Oh my God. Come on. Are you putting Avatar and Dune in the same conversation on my podcast?
I mean, Avatar is a more decorated movie at the Academy Awards.
Does that matter? Okay. I mean, all right. The Villeneuve. Dune films are sensational.
Adapting Dune Messiah, it feels like what Villeneuve is like alive to Dune.
do? I think this is a great pick at number one. I think that Odyssey would have been a great
pick at number one, but I can't quibble with Doom Part 3. Easily my most anticipated movie.
When do you think it will come out? Can I just say really quickly? October, the last week of
October. I think you know that Oscars matters to me, but I think when it's Academy Award
winning Suicide Squad, there are ways in which the Oscars don't matter to me. Do you know what I mean?
You know, it's a good win for Suicide Squad. Quality legacy for DCEU.
Would you care to try? I will be selecting the Odyssey, which I assumed would go number
in the draft, and I would have been thrilled, obviously, to take Dune Part 2 at number 2,
but I am also delighted and astonished to be able to select the Odyssey.
I'll be taking it an adaptation.
Makes sense.
I think that's the spot.
Which I'm excited to be able to get my adaptation pick in early.
That feels good and fun and right.
And hey, look, we've been doing a hot Nolan summer into crisp Nolan fall,
into whatever our Nolan nomenclature for the winter into spring will be.
We're rewatching and celebrating all of the Chris Nolan movies here on House of.
of our just because we're so fucking excited for The Odyssey.
So in terms of hype and anticipation here at the House of R,
Dune and Odyssey,
and for us because of our affection for Project Hail Mary,
like,
we love a dense text that's adapted, sort of.
These are,
and just obviously for the Odyssey.
You love the Lion Dark Sea.
You're a big fan.
Like CR, and again, I'm in the CRC,
so I'll just say it aloud.
The sea is dope.
Yeah.
You know, the sea is dope.
And I like to be out on the end of the open waters.
I mean, Otisias might disagree, to be honest.
Scylla charybdis.
We love the Greek myth.
We love mythology here on The House of R.
We love a Nolan film.
Look at this fucking cast.
We like to be in a big IMAX screen.
We like to have everybody in the scene,
the theater on the same weekend.
Are you guys going to reread the Odyssey?
Yes, 100%.
As Joanna knows, my angelic husband
bought me that beautiful folio edition,
and I'm actually like afraid to touch it.
Don't know.
Don't read that one.
I'm scared to touch it.
It's so beautiful.
That's for displaying.
We'll get you a paperback for reading.
I got one in Greece, actually.
In October?
Oh, actually.
No, my kidding.
You're going to read it digitally.
I think you know that that's true.
Like to highlight on the Kindle for Pod Prep.
Are we translation snobs?
Like, is there a particular cut of the Odyssey that we need to turn to first and foremost?
I know this is like a very opinionated subject in the classics community.
Should we ask Dobbins?
Because she revealed recently that she has like 18 copies.
That's a lot of copies.
I'm just going to use my text from college.
Works for me?
That feels like cheating, though.
I'm looking into an illustrated retelling here.
What the hell did 19 year old?
Illustrated is.
Joanna.
We're going to find out.
Me to my child.
Very fun way to do it.
Yeah.
I have been doing some thinking, though.
I think 2026 is off to a pretty rough start, if we're all being honest about it.
I am ready to sail to a witchy island of me turned into a pig.
Like, I'm cool with it.
I'm ready to surrender.
You're going to go with the lotus eaters, though.
That's a better place.
I don't know.
Chewing on acorns for years?
Okay.
I would take it at this point.
Hashtag pig life.
That's like a real like cottage core.
That's what I'm saying.
What's cozier than that?
Sure.
I agree.
I guess it's my turn.
You have great choices here.
Thanks so much for amphibiavo, and I'm sure I'm going to pick something that's going to baffle you.
No.
Take it, take it, do it.
I'm not going to do it here, but I am going to do it on the turn.
But I do think the thinest, well, you can go in that category.
This is a time for big swings.
Oh.
At the top of the drive, Joanna?
Yeah.
I think I want to potentially bother Sean, though I'm not sure that that's what that's going to do.
Wait, I'm trying to guess what you might be doing here.
Okay, so a movie.
Yeah.
It's going to bother Sean.
Oh, I think I know what you're going to do.
I don't know.
I think I'm going to pick Disclosure Day.
Yeah, okay.
And this is the mysterious, but it's aliens, probably Steven Spielberg film with Emily Blunt.
Which category?
Our guy, Josh O'Connor.
That's a great question.
Let's just put it in film.
Why not a movie, right?
Yeah.
It's not an adaptation, right?
It's original.
It's original.
It could be a wild card.
Do you want to take a crack at the voice croak?
No, that's, do you want to?
No, I mean, it's your pick. You first.
I think you know how I feel about strange voices.
That's what I thought. I thought it might mean something to you.
I thought it might have reached like a very visceral place.
Do you want to tell Sean what we did last night?
We went to go see Inland Empire at the Academy Museum last night with hundreds of our closest friends.
Very chill.
I don't think I've recovered.
I feel like I'm in a weird trance and my grip on reality is slipping even as we speak.
Joe had quite a reaction many times in the movie,
including how would you describe that one scene
where the guy is doing the weird, like, finger,
but also croaking.
It's a lot.
Interesting choice, considering that movie,
I know was recently restored to 4K,
but was also shot with a potato.
It was.
This was the 4K restoration.
Yeah, of the potato shot.
Yeah, yeah.
It was, Lur-Derm was there.
We had a good time.
Let me tell you, potatoes have never looked better.
Yeah.
That is a very upsetting movie.
It was incredibly upset.
for turbing.
Disclosure Day.
Yeah.
Tell us.
Steven Spielberg, great cast.
Like, we're all fans of Joshua Connor.
Anything Joshua Connor wants to do.
Coleman Domingo, the best thing about some dubious properties this last year.
Wyatt Russell, our guy.
Just like an incredible cast.
David kept sort of like a bit hit or miss in the genre space, but a name that brings optimism to my heart writing the screenplay.
And this is just like Spielberg potentially back to his roots.
We've done a couple Spielberg big pick episodes and we've been sort of lamenting how long it's been since we felt like Spielberg had a real, real, real hit.
And wouldn't it be sick if Spielberg made an incredible sci-fi movie this year?
So that is why I'm picking Disclosure Day, number one.
Really good pick.
I'm kind of fascinated by what this movie does because it's a huge swing.
And if it was not Stephen Spielberg's name attached to it,
a movie like this would not be dated for June 25th.
You know, like it's just hard to get a movie like this made these days.
And if you remove Ready Player 1,
it's been almost two decades since he made a movie.
If only we could remove Ready Player 1.
He just hasn't made a movie at this scale in a long time.
So I'm excited, great pick.
I'm certainly hoping there's like a little minority report,
sci-fi thriller energy into it.
And it seems like it's hopefully leaning in that direction more than Ready Player 1.
I mean, literally any other direction.
direction than Ready Player one would be much appreciated.
Rob Honi.
I mean, I will take Project Hail Mary.
This book means absolutely nothing to me.
This is so fucking annoying, honestly.
But, Joe, I don't think you should have let Rob do this to us.
You just left it out there.
Is the thing.
Look, I'm psyched to see it.
I like love Gosling.
Honestly, I am quite as a non-book reader.
This is infuriating.
It's just a classic Mahoney move and it's fine.
It was right there.
More category.
God damn it.
I will take it an edit.
which I also think is like a little thin.
An adaptation of a text you have no relationship.
I actually think adaptation is pretty good.
That's fine.
I haven't read it.
I will not be reading it.
I was thinking about reading it.
Yeah.
The trailer is lovely.
I'm furious about the end of the trailer,
at least the first cut and some of the reveals within it
that I would have really preferred not to know.
Me too.
I felt the same way.
Joe and I have talked about this a lot.
I think there's some value in them really just showing us
what the story is and hopefully drawing more people.
I will say that the part of the delight of the book is
the surprises that wait for you.
So it is a little bit of a bummer
that so much has been revealed.
That said,
when you get to see what has been revealed,
fucking electric.
Just electric.
I had my nails digging into Joe's arm
at Comic-Con.
Elbow and Van on the other side.
This is just a wonderful.
Van, over the course of that panel,
going from what the hell is this to they got me
and he was like almost teary-eyed
and like very boyishly looking up
But the screen was a really great experience.
We love a van on an arc, honestly.
Him selling it sells it.
Yeah.
This is a really, really great story.
And it's a fun sci-fi story.
It's a fun, like, what will you do to rally in the face of great odd story?
But it's just a beautiful friendship story.
And it is easily one of my most anticipated movies of the year.
So I'm very annoyed that you got this.
Well, also, plus as far as the Gosling Intergalactic Traveler Movies go, this is the one I feel
comfortable betting on.
I know the other one probably isn't a 20-26 release, but it's like,
he's a great emissary to send out into space.
But in this capacity and not in the like,
I'm going to babysit on a different planet capacity.
I don't know what's going on with Starfighter.
That also looks great.
First man, yeah, which is awesome.
In this film, in Starfighter,
and in Only God forgives, he played an astronaut in all four of those films.
There you go.
Four classics.
Earth is not big enough for Gosling.
Rob Honey, you have another pick.
I mean, what a luxury.
Fuck it.
I will take Doomsday.
I will embrace the chaos of a gigantic release.
So annoying.
I'm going to take it in sequel, just to leave my options open a little bit.
Yep.
Okay.
I hope to God this movie is good.
I hope it's just watchable.
I hope I don't come out of it with the feeling that I left the theater with after seeing Fantastic Four, which is just like, this enterprise, this machine has lost every capacity to put, put energy into these movies.
And I will say I'm like a little stirred by some of the trailers and the teasers so far.
It's a lot of fatherhood, which, sure, maybe not every character needs that particular bond to make this movie go.
Been there, though, you know, once you've been there.
You're a Thor and you're holding a baby and then you're Captain America and you're holding a baby.
And then you're like watching Marty Supreme and you're like, wouldn't you say that's the father of our shared fandom?
I would.
Just tried to tap into that nostalgia.
But then you got to do something else beyond fatherhood.
I want the midlife crisis Marvel movie.
And that's what I'm hoping.
That's the energy I'm hoping they bring.
What is the space corvette?
I have to say.
One, I thought Deadpool and Wolverine was bad and I really enjoyed it.
And I had like a great time.
Yeah.
And watching Cyclops go apes shit on Sentinels, I was like, I am nine years old.
Yep.
Like I will be happy when they are doing that.
I don't, I have a lot.
of misgivings about we need to use these old characters to convince people to be interested in
something going forward and they completely bungled like three or four characters in the last five
years. But Marsden releasing Ruby Red Vision all over giant robots. Pretty cool. It works. Like I am
interested in that as like a monkey-brained kid. Did you watch X-Men 97? I did. I loved it. I drafted it,
I believe. Yeah, you did. I just didn't know if that meant you watched it. The year before it came out.
Did I? Yeah, in the first round. And then I got it the next year.
But it was great.
It actually came out.
It was fantastic.
It was wonderful, but like there's been this whole chatter online about like, yeah, the reclaiming
of Cyclops.
Yes.
What if Cyclops is good, actually?
I'm on a text card with some friends where we're kind of like casting yourself.
And, you know, I just, I relate to Scott.
You know, Scott, I don't think you want to say that out loud.
You're a Scott guy?
I am.
The older I get, the more I understand Scott's plight, you know.
Everybody loves Wolvie, right?
I would like to take two shoves bad.
You're on a text thread where you guys say witch X men.
you are?
It's one of the coolest threads I'm on.
It's full of cool people.
Follow a question.
Why are we not on that?
I feel like to be,
you could add you on.
I've always thought of you as having magneto energy.
I'm going to be honest.
Like,
yeah, maybe that's true.
You have a point of view.
If I live long enough,
I just be done there.
A huge compliment.
Gene Gray.
Yeah, obvious.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The power to destroy the universe.
Mallory Rubin.
Occasial.
The same.
It's a good idea.
Yeah.
I really hope Doomsday is good.
To me, Doomsday is emblematic of the spirit of the hype draft.
You live in the now until you can't any longer.
You live in the moment of anticipation until they rip it away from you.
I also think the closer we get, more people are going to want to believe in it.
And so we're going to ride the hype train together.
And if it's a disappointment, we're going to look back and say, we never believed in it in the first place.
Well, maybe I think that there's a level of rational detachment where some people will say we never believed or like this was always so like nakedly craven and creatively bankrupt.
To be clear, it is that.
Not to be confused with Craven the Hunter.
Exactly.
One of your most anticipated movies in the 2024.
That was a good time on the pod.
I think that if Doomsday is bad, it will be an absolute crisis for fans of a certain type of comic book.
But let's use this opportunity to talk about the first four things that were selected in this draft.
I mean, this is how dramatically even this exercise has changed in the last four years.
The Odyssey, Dune Part 3, but made by a prestige filmmaker with awards consideration.
for sure. Project Hail Mary, an original
sci-fi novel. Yep.
And what was the last one? Disclosure Day
and Disclosure Day.
An original science fiction story. Everything has totally changed.
When we did the mid-year,
Best Movie Year Big Pick last year,
we were talking about like trends,
and I was talking about how like original
storytelling in 2025
having this big surgence was so exciting.
And for us to be at the end of,
like I just, I'm so excited
about what happened last year with
films in their success. I am too. I think it's
all of the films that have been taken so far
are totally appropriate for this draft too.
It's not like anybody's reaching beyond
what you guys would normally cover.
But on top of that, it's not,
they are original stories or their adaptations
of kind of more historical literature.
But they have like a lot of,
they have roots.
Like Disclosure Day is part of a lineage
of science fiction storytelling from a filmmaker.
You know, these movies,
even a Project Hell Mary feels like revisiting a kind of,
like the Martian standing in
for a certain kind of...
I mean, the Odyssey...
...and Miller getting to, like, do their hudson.
Yes, exactly.
These are all part of a tradition.
I mean, doing obviously one of the influential texts
on all of the things that we all consume and cover,
and the Odyssey is like...
It's the...
Number one.
The ur-text.
Yeah.
Will we continue that truth?
Gilgamesh would like a word, but that's okay.
Gilgamesh would like a word.
All right, so it's my turn.
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I'm going to do it. It's the stupidest move I could possibly make, but I'm going to do it anyway. I love this.
My most anticipated, generally most anticipated thing of this year is television series called The Vampire Listad. That's Interview with the Vampire Season 3. I genuinely think this is going to be, for me, the best thing that happens this year. I'm going to make my pitch right now for people who have not watched an interview of Vampire, which is an incredible, this is its third season, incredible television series anyway.
Anyway, hey, if you liked heated rivalry and you like toxic gay yearning, have I got a show for you?
Interview with the Vampire.
This season, the third season, which focuses on the Vampire Listat, is also a musical season.
So they've written original music.
We're watching the Vampire Listat go on tour.
He is a rock star.
And I just think this has a potential because it's sort of its own.
thing slightly independent of the first two seasons.
It has a potential to retroactively, like, boost the first two seasons into the consciousness.
Sam Reed and Jacob Anderson, as Louis and Lestad, are two of my favorite performances we've
seen on television.
I feel like I'm so happy for Hudson Williams and Connor Story out of Yen Ravelry,
but I feel like Sam Reed and Jacob Anderson deserve this level of, like, adoration and star-boasting
from this.
Eric Boghijin, just an all-time icon on this show in general, but as a very snarky journalist, Daniel Malloy, he's just the best.
And Jennifer Ely is here.
I mean, this is just going to be my shit, like pure uncut my shit.
Is it stupid to pick it here?
Yes.
I live in fear of anyone else having it.
Yeah.
It's not stupid because I would have taken it.
Would you?
Again, sight unseen, just for the purposes of it.
taking it in this draft.
It's not for not to bother you.
No, it is to bother me.
Look, if you take Project Hail Mary
and the Vampire List Act,
you're here to bother.
That's not to bother.
I used to be the cruel one on drafts,
but I've mellowed in my old age.
You've become the monster.
I'm just looking to siphon.
Look, the listeners of this podcast
adore the two of you
and adore the things that you introduce them to.
And the word cloud of what you just said, Joe,
toxic gay vampire romance that's also a musical.
It's just about the most Joanna Robinson thing I've ever heard.
I know.
And so I was looking to grab some of those people.
to rally them to my cause. That's all.
Well, now you can't. No.
Stop the board.
I'm putting in TV. I'm putting in TV. I think there is a really
good TV pick that I did not
pick, but other than that, I think TV is
pretty thin actually this year.
In our world,
there's a really good one still on the board that I
probably should have picked, but I
did not want Rob Mahoney
to do anything to me. Not that he could have because I had
another term, but anyway, the vampire list out.
Wasn't on my board.
I know.
but have you considered?
Which of those things are you anti-toxic gay romances, vampires, or musicals?
I'm more broadly anti-TV.
Is it really more my issue?
Google Sam-Reed shirtless.
That's not how I would get Sean.
That's not how I would get Sean Fennessee into the fold.
I'm not opposed to looking at a shirtless.
Allow me to make a curated pitch to you later.
Okay, great.
And it's not, Google this shirtless guy.
I'm not generally opposed to anything you just pitched.
I recently watched the first two seasons of this television program.
What would you say it was fucking fantastic?
What would you say about the like the visual, like the cinematography on this show?
Gorgeous.
This is a beautiful show.
It's beautifully rendered in every respect.
The acting is sensational in the writing is just like resplendent.
And Joe knows this because she and Adam are on a vibrant text thread about it.
But Adam who has a relationship to the canon in a way that I did not.
Based on the En-Rice novels.
Yeah, based on the novels is like, this is just one of the best shows that they have made.
So I, Charles Holmes loves it.
Van Lathen loves it.
Yes.
I think the pattern is if people.
give it a shot. They're like, this is pretty damn good. And it would be cool if more people
watched it. For that reason alone, I think it's cool to pick it in the second round of the hype
draft. Bring more attention to it. I also think it's cool because now I can pick a Knight of the
Seven Kingdoms with my next thing, which I want to have on my team. Again, the show has started,
but it is a 2006 release. So it is eligible to be selected. I will be taking that as a TV show.
and we're at the time of recording this,
and I think still when this comes out,
two episodes will have aired.
It's six episodes, bite-sized, 30 minutes.
And this television show is wonderful.
It is based on the Hedge Knight novella,
The Tales of Duncan Egg,
that Joe and I just absolutely adore.
And my most fervent hope and desire
is that the word of mouth continues to be positive
and the buzz builds.
And by the last couple weeks of this show,
people are like,
I gotta sit down on Sunday night to watch this and share this with my pals who like to go to Westrose because it is delightful and charming and the energy and essence and comedy and spirit and also really rich themes about honor and hope and intention and identity are all here.
And it's just like really an energetic return to Westeros.
I love Thrones.
I want to have it on my team.
And now I do.
I think episode three is going to turn a lot of people's attention to it.
I'm very excited for that.
Well, so this isn't the only Throne show coming out this year.
No.
Correct.
So House of the Dragon 3 is November?
Summer.
Theoretically summer.
I won't be surprised if that moves back, but so far they said summer.
So is that the confirmation of you already feel good about sight seen a night of the seven kingdoms is good versus House of the Dragon TBD in the coming season?
Or is there something about the bones and the DNA of those particular shows that this appeals to you more.
We know the bones appeal clearly.
But there's bones about in Westeros.
No, I would not have hesitated.
If I had not gotten a Night of the Seven Kingdoms,
which I had is my number one TV show on my TV show list,
and pretty high on my sequels and adaptations list as well,
I got to say,
I would not have hesitated to take House of the Dragon season three later
and just would have probably prepared a little speech,
you know, and a little apology to George R. Martin as I selected it
because he is in such a public war with the feud that show team.
But I like Hot D, and I think that not to get ahead on a pick,
nobody has made, but I think season three of House of the Dragon will be excellent.
Bangers only based on the canon that it waits.
Where they are in the story.
I think anybody who wants to pick that should do so without hesitation.
I think it'll be a good season of TV.
Sean Fantasy.
You're on the turn here.
This is exciting.
I feel like the board fell in my direction for what I wanted,
not for whether I can win with your audience
or whether or not I can stymie, Rob, effectively, or whatever.
But what I want, I think is going to go well.
Now, I'm not always great at actually watching the things that I select.
for example, Alien Earth.
I watched two episodes
and I was like,
nope, not for me.
This isn't what I think this should be.
Wasn't a fan.
But then did you still listen
to all of our podcasts about it?
I trust you did.
I did not.
Tough.
But I've heard great things.
I've heard they are elite podcasts.
We had fun.
I'm very pleased for you guys.
We had fun.
Have you heard of the eyeball talking?
I'm sure knew.
Friend of the pods.
I was happy for you guys.
I actually did watch that content
on social media.
And you were charming.
by it. Well, I've had Tim Oliphant stock for a long time. So I'm happy for you guys.
Since when? Girl Next Door, what was it that won you over? Go. Go. I mean, he's amazing.
Go is just incredible. What a breakthrough as the worst person in the universe.
But the best, but the best person ever wears Santa hat, I think. Oh, yeah. It's very sleazy and sexy
and dangerous. I know what you're going to pick based on this preamble, but we'll see.
Well, I mean, I have two picks, right? So I'll get the obvious one out of the way
first in movie I'll be taking Spider-Man brand new day, which I've never not liked a Spider-Man
movie, including even the ones people don't like. Spider-Man is eternal. I love him. If you think
I have strong feelings for Cyclops blowing up Sentinels, just wait until Peter Parker is cracking
lies while flying through his city. You know, change in filmmaker here, which will be interesting.
The first time John Watts is not on a film. I assume there's going to be some connectivity to
doomsday here. Feels obvious.
And yet you read a lot about how Sony is kind of desperate to real Spitey back in
and get a little bit more ownership over that property over the long term.
So I'm quite curious.
But, you know, the gang's back.
Holland's back.
I'm going to do those movies with my daughter too, which I'm excited about.
She's really into Spitey as all little kids are because of Spidey and his amazing friends,
which is crack cocaine on Disney Plus.
Sadie Sink is here.
That's right.
Playing TBD?
Sure.
Playing Gene Gray?
If you've never been on the internet playing TVD, sure.
I just see a lot of stuff floating around,
a lot of theories about who she could be playing in this movie.
So I genuinely don't know.
Lucille Ball?
I think it's out there.
Okay.
I'm not in the right corners.
Is she playing historic villain Scorpion?
Who is she playing?
No.
Michael Mando is playing Scorpion.
That's right.
That's exciting.
Michael Mando.
Better Call Solheim.
So Spidey in movie.
And then in TV, I'm going lanterns.
Yeah, that was, that's what I would have picked if I hadn't picked.
That hurts.
I had lanterns very high on my TV.
I have another TV show that I'm really interested in.
And I don't think anybody's going to take it.
And if anybody doesn't, I want to talk about it at the end.
You can also, you can take it in Wildcard.
Or if it's a sequel, you can take it in a sequel.
You can take a television show in more than just the TV show category.
The movie guy.
There's just a lot of movies that I want.
But remember last year when he took like all TV shows?
Except for, you took a lot of TV shows last year.
I think I took two, right?
No, three.
I took Night of the Seven Kingdoms, Alien Earth, and Andor.
Yeah.
That was weird that you did that.
weird and I got fantastic for it which didn't work out.
Lanterns, of course, new HBO Max series,
Green Lantern Adaptation starring Kyle Chandler
and Aaron Pierre. Comes host from Damon Lindeloff.
Very excited about that.
Damon's not the lead creator on that show, I should say.
I don't know who that person is. You can fill me in on that.
It's the guy from Ozark, I think, right?
Okay. That's Jason Bateman as far as I know.
Yeah.
It's either Jason Payman or Laura Linney who's running this show.
I just, I don't think we should, well...
Laura Linney presents lanterns is something I'm interested in.
It's Chris Mundy.
And Tom King also is involved.
But, like, you can, you can, like,
Lindelof's fingerprints are on this show,
but it's not like, this is his follow-up to Washman or something.
Right.
So here's my thing.
I do need these lanterns to do some lanterning.
Like, I do need them to get the ring out and make stuff.
Like, it is just a gritty, feet on the ground,
like, desert cop drama.
It's with lanterns.
I don't want that.
They're describing it as, I believe,
true detective for the decent.
A murder mystery.
Now, we have heard many
a Marvel creator use that kind
of verbiage to describe one of their properties
that is ultimately about a guy with a shield
hitting a guy in an iron suit.
So just because you say something is something,
now if there's no lantern,
if they don't make a giant tank
with a lantern, I'm gonna be fucking pissed.
Like I'm gonna get, I'm gonna demand to get on this show.
I'm gonna be calling you guys every day
and I'm gonna be like, where the fucking lanterns?
You're welcome.
Why are they not?
We could have a corner every week on our lantern cover.
That's just Sean being like, goddamn, where are the lanterns.
You can submit us selfie videos the way Ben did.
We'll consider airing them.
If you flip a table, you can definitely come on the show.
I can't promise that I'll be as calm and collected as Ben was there.
But I feel like this is a good pick, right?
This show is this the second most anticipated show in this space this year after the Thrones duo?
I would personally, just because of my Thrones obsession, have, you know, both throne shows at the top of the list.
and then I had lanterns and one other show.
I think people are really excited about lanterns
because they're thinking of it as a Damon Lindelof show
and I just want to temper slightly that expectation.
I think there's also the hope of like,
can you actually make a property with these characters that is good?
That is not animated.
Like the animated versions of John Stewart and Hall Jordan,
I think it have been pretty effective,
but live action's been a fucking disaster.
And Kyle Chandler is playing Hal Jordan.
Proper Hal Jordan.
Canon Hal Jordan.
Yes.
That's just a great character.
Promotional photo.
obviously that they have released.
I know you're going to tell you.
And I just am prepared to say
and commit to House of Arcannon
that nobody has,
other than Harrison Ford and witness
and obviously
Aragorn when he opens the doors,
nobody has ever
let hotter than Kyle Chandler
as Al Jordan in the first promotional image
for lanterns, nobody.
The salt and pepper hair, the kind of shag,
he's basically in like a Last of Us
Apocalypse jacket.
He's just, boy.
He's 60 years old.
I know.
That's my sweet spot.
This is ideal.
Maybe even young.
A little young.
Now that I age, that's a little young.
And, you know, we're early in the, you know, the gods and monsters like dawn of the new DCU still.
So there's just a lot of hype and anticipation in general.
I had one or two shows I would have taken ahead of this, but this was a top four TV show on the ranking for me.
I think it's a completely good and fine pick.
Yeah.
Mal I ever been.
This is kind of where things open up in a, I could take.
17 things here.
I think I'm going to follow through on my pledge at the beginning of the draft to just go with my heart
and go with things that I love.
And yes, things that I'm dreading might let us down,
but really desperately hope are going to be good.
And I hope for you that they are good.
Thank you.
I know what I'm going to take.
This is again like emblematic to me of the spirit of the hype draft.
If we get through the release window when this movie is going to come to us in May,
and it's a disappointment or it was good,
but there's a lot of shouldn't this have just been season four
of this television show conversation, you know, whatever.
Right now, the thing that matters to be most
is that we're finally going to get a Star Wars movie.
We have been waiting since fucking 2019
when a film that shall not be named
destroyed our lives and our childhoods.
And so I'm selecting the Mandalorian and Grogu
because I am living in the desire for that movie to be good.
Grogo is, you know, I was going to say,
one of the most important people in my life
and then I thought that's weird. Don't say it, but I
decided to say it anyway.
So there you are.
Grogu is one of the most important people in my life.
Zeb is in this movie.
Our beloved Aunt Zelens are in this movie.
I don't personally like really care.
See, this is how
if you really know that you haven't watched
Robles. This is how I really know you haven't
watched Rebels. Alice is going to like rebels.
So let's follow up on Star Wars Rebels after
this. Alice is not going to like Rebels.
Yeah, we're not going to do that.
Of course you will.
see the Mandalorian and Grogu, and part of the reason why we're seeing all these movies
right now is so that we can go see the Mandalorian Grogu.
She saw that trailer and she was like, you need to put that inside me.
It's a big moment for Star Wars fans.
Am I picking this in movie or?
I'm never going to be the person to pitch rebels.
I apologize.
I'm going to pick this in movie.
I'm going to pick it in movie.
Kids love the Star Wars animation.
Does it have strong female characters?
That's really the only thing.
It has that.
It has that.
That is the only thing that matters.
Hera?
For her.
Not to me, of course.
That's great.
I actually feel really excited that I got.
that I got Mando and Grogo here.
I'm happy for you.
Same.
I was on my desperation tier.
This is the biggest I'm happy for you pick so far.
Yeah.
I really love Frogo.
This isn't going to be good.
Come on.
Like, come on.
We know this looks like a TV show.
It's a TV show.
But I love TV shows.
See, that's the thing.
For me, it looks like season four of the television show,
is not disqualifying for it in like the could it be good camp.
Maybe it's a do they know what they're doing with running Star Wars and Lucas
film?
And should this be the first movie?
after the near decade-long waits since Rise of Skywalker.
Those are all fair questions for you to ask on the big pick.
It's such scared money.
And scared money coming after scared money.
You know, not trying to denigrate.
I'm in an infatuation with Star Wars right now.
But I love Star Wars.
You are trying to denigate, but that's okay.
An adventure to bring us to the theaters and also to challenge Imperial Remnants.
And Zeb in the trailer, he would like, did some parkour against the wall.
That's not what's up for debate.
I'm thrilled. I can't wait.
I'm looking at Zeb right now.
Yeah.
What do you make of him?
He did appear briefly in, was it, it was in Mando, right?
Not Book of Bovetheth.
This is real corg vibes from the Thor films to me.
But you like corg in the first court, Thor movie.
One corg is good in his first appearance.
Yeah.
Not in a second appearance, though.
A little bit of overkill.
But what if this is a love and thunder situation?
But what if it's a Ragnarok situation?
That's exactly right.
But it could be.
The hydraft suggests it could be.
Mando season one and Mando season two are really great.
The two Mando episodes of Bokoavet are really great.
Mando season three was not good.
It was very disappointing.
I am hoping that this is a return to form of the spirit of this lone wolf and cub
found family adventure story and a galactic quest that we can all share.
And also, I just think Grogu is the best.
So I select it without, frankly, any reservation.
I love to hear it.
Joe, it's back to you.
I'm really trying to figure out if I want to do what I'm about to do.
I'll wait.
What?
I thought you were going to take a certain thing that you love.
No, because I don't think that's going to be good.
And I'm really worried about it.
Actually, we'll talk about it later.
I think I know what you're talking about.
Maybe Rob will take that.
Maybe.
Just in case it ends up being good, then he can say he hurt you again.
Can future proof.
Future proof again.
pissing you off.
I don't appreciate the way I'm being painted on this podcast, you know?
We don't appreciate the way you're conducting yourself.
I'm just a guy chasing his own heart.
You know?
Something to reflect us.
I'm trying to so nice to not be the heel.
I'm just trying to celebrate the things that my friends love with them.
And that makes me a villain on this show.
And that's why you took Project Hail Mary away from Mallory.
I'm so tough.
I want to be on it with you.
That's what I'm saying.
Okay.
Well, you're welcome to see that with me as long as you promise to see the Mandalorian and Grogo with me.
You know what?
I would be delighted.
That's the agreement.
That feels like the best.
best way to see it. I agree. Okay. On the vein of
Joana loves witch stuff.
I'm gonna go with my heart and say, and my love for Greta Gerwig. And I'm
picking Narnia and the Magicians. Okay. Nice. Category. This is what I thought you were
referring to that you thought wasn't going to be good. So that's interesting to hear you
say that. I think that was about Buffy. Yeah, that's about Buffy. Yeah.
Which is sad to hear.
This could, I'm not 100% certain about this.
Unlike most of the internet, I got excited when I found out this is called the magician's nephew.
Because I care about the books in book order and this is the first book.
Well, it's chronological order.
Is it book order?
Yes.
It's chronological order and it matters to me.
Amid to disagree.
Seamus McGarvey is on board and I love his work in cinematography.
I'm always worried about Netflix property.
I'm always worried about a big creator that I love who's done something on the big screen
that everyone went to see against all odds getting into bed with Netflix and this feeling like a smaller
proposition as a result.
That being said, Carrie Mulligan and Emma Mackey and Denise Goff of Andor of Season 2 fame,
Daniel Craig is here.
This is some real, like, witch stuff.
A lion is there.
I mean, I don't know, Daniel Craig won't actually be there.
You might.
Mocap Daniel Craig?
That's not confirmed, right?
Isn't there a second pretty powerful rumor?
I don't know.
Maybe not.
I feel like they zagged from that after they saw the reaction.
And they were like, we're no longer in woke America.
So we're zagging on our lion, Jesus lion voice.
Anyway, this is.
Who did they cast?
Well, it was remembered to be Emma Thompson, right?
Oh, I see.
Yeah.
A little gender flip there.
Nice.
And then they were like, America.
The magician's niece.
Yeah.
Why not the magician's niece, guys?
Why not?
Why can't nieces have a show?
Why not?
Anyway, this is with hope of my heart.
Yeah.
And my faith in Greta Gerwig and my love of this, you know, book series.
I don't know what to make of this.
I'm excited.
I don't, but like, I actually think I would be less high if it were the line and the wish of the wardrobe than I am that she's doing the magician's nephew, right?
Because, like, she's doing, like, she's putting her stamp on something new.
And it's sequentially the beginning of the story.
Exactly.
And the way that what Greta Gerwig has done with, like, say, a little women or even Barbie, which, like, everyone knows I was very, very high on, but, like, there was no reason that movie should have been good.
And then I thought it was fantastic.
And so she's got a lot of faith for me as a result.
And Amy Pascal is here as a producer and that can be hit or miss, but it's been hit a lot recently.
And so I'm excited.
Yeah, a Greta Gerwig adaptation, as you said, I'm already thrilled about, given a.
her past work. A Greta Gerwig movie starring in part Carrie Mulligan as a witch. Okay, I'm down for that.
A Greta Gerwig Narnia movie, all right, I need to see it. All of these things together, I just don't know.
Like, I just don't know if it's going to play or not. And that's, and I would love for this movie to work.
I would love for Emma Mackey be great in it. Our governor herself, like, we salute her work.
But I'm apprehensive. I'm hopeful, but I'm apprehensive. My one reservation about it is pretty
entirely around the fact that
one of the great things about Barbie is the
kind of real world practical design. There's this
great exhibit at the Academy Museum
that shows Greenwood and Spencer
and the work that they did to kind of build the world of Barbie.
If you have a young child, they will
have their minds blown by all the
ways in which they kind of built out
the visual world. What if you have a young child right here
inside? Then that'll also work. I enjoyed it as well.
Narnia kind of demands
visual effects work. And
Greta has not really done that before in a film.
And we're in a low moment in visual effects work in Hollywood history.
I agree.
And has Netflix ever done it at this scale successfully?
Not really.
And the movie is kind of make or break, at least based on what I know about it, with that kind of work.
And so that's the kind of thing that in the last few years has really taken me out of movies.
I'm not trying to yuck anybody's young here or diminish the hype.
But that's my, like, key reservation.
Because I'm pretty much with you guys.
Like, I kind of trust her across the board.
I love all her movies.
Yeah.
But.
And just fascinated to see what her particular, like,
touch does to the story.
Whatever anybody else thinks, noted, observed,
Joanna and I will be covering this movie
from the Eagle and the Child
where Tolkien and Lewis used to sit
and talk about the story. And that's just
the way we'll be spending our fall. Where is that?
It's in Oxford. Yeah, we're going to Oxford.
I'm going to send you the... Say Oxnard, you said?
Oxford. I'll be sending you the request, the travel
request after the pod. Which of you
is the Tolkien and which one is the Lewis?
We're both talking.
Wow.
The professor is always welcome.
Here on the House of Ar.
That's true.
Is it, it's going to be
House of Our colon, faintest inklings?
Exactly right.
Exactly right.
Okay, that's my fact.
Rob Bond.
I thought you guys found each other.
Jesus.
Same.
It's very special.
It's a very special bond.
It's very special bond.
I want to take that knot in the tone.
It would be insane together.
It's great.
I will be selecting X-Men 97 season two.
Is this happening?
It is.
But so different...
Different creator.
Different creator.
What do you think about that?
I mean, I'm open to
ultimately the aesthetics of the world.
Are you taking this as TV show?
I'm taking it as a TV show.
Yeah.
Look, the swerve in terms of the creativity
behind the show does concern me
because this was a show that understood
a lot of things about X-Men in season one,
including the fact that X-Men fuck,
which is a critical part of the formula.
As long as it maintains that energy,
and we're getting, based on the trailers
and stuff we've seen so far,
Colossus in the show, which is exciting.
Archangel in the show, which is exciting.
More Cylock, hypothetically.
Apocalypse, which is a scale of story, I think, can be a little daunting for X-Men
properties, but, again, I choose to hold out hope.
Interesting pick. Okay.
Ultimately, I am not thrilled with the TV slate as well.
I think there's a lot of, like, hope and dream and pray this is good.
And maybe House of the Dragon is, like, the safer play in some ways,
especially given the to be continued nature of the end of season two.
but like I just want this to be good
I want it to continue to be good
You watched all of House of the Dragon season two
Yes
And you have not watched The Andor season two
Look I don't choose the order in which these things happen
I believe it
This is part of the problem
You know sometimes these properties
Find their way into your life
And it's like I know this is important
And need to make time for it
And so then the idea of eating it over dinner
feels like disrespectful to Anto
Yeah yeah that's true
Versus House of the Dragon like fuck it
Let the Dragons ride
I really did carve out time
where I was like, I will have four consecutive hours to myself to watch these and have like three days of that.
And that actually turned out to be great for that show. And some shows deserve that.
You know, like you guys obviously are doing yeoman's work. We're covering it every single, covering these shows every single week. And that's a different kind of experience.
But when you get the chance to not have to do that, there is something rewarding about getting the bunch.
So I like, I'm not usually a binge person. But if something is legitimately great, then you don't want to stop. Yeah.
So no reservations about doing double, double Marvel here.
This podcast, I do not know.
Interesting.
I'm cool with it.
You know, maybe it would be a smarter play to diversify, but I think...
Well, you have an opportunity to diversify right now.
I do.
But I'm going to diversify toward whatever I want, which in this case is, in movie,
I will be selecting The Bride, which I am thrilled about.
I mean, so I just want to, can we, Carlos, can you actually in the edit rewind to like seven
minutes ago when Rob was like, I'm not specifically trying to piss Joe off?
Don't worry.
Lock it in.
That pick is fine.
to lock it in.
Boy, Sean and I
have heard very bad things
about this movie.
Oh, no.
Too late.
Oh, no.
Is that true?
That's heartbreaking.
Very bad things.
Guys.
I sensed some of this
on the big pick
when you guys were...
I reserve the right
to like it
in the face of bad
reporting around a movie,
but...
I've talked to some people
who've seen it.
Yeah.
Testing was bad.
I support Maggie so much.
Love the Lost Daughter.
Jesse.
What a bummer.
Love this idea for a movie.
The whole conceit is really cool.
I, like,
over a year ago,
text you. I was like, I have to be on this episode. Now, please don't put me on that episode.
Well, if it's good. You know what?
Rob's a whiskey pick because it got kicked to this year.
The idea was Jesse Buckley's going to be on stage at the Oscars, right? But
this is not a good window for a movie like this.
Very unfortunate to hear. But I don't need it to work for them. I just needed to work for me.
Test audiences kick rocks. Like, ultimately, I, look, I will maintain some of the sweetest
spots in cinema are like the 35 to 55% tomato meter range that is four years.
you, right? Like, I don't need it to have broad appeal.
I don't need it to work for everybody.
An impressive zag.
This kind of...
We know your love for National Treasure too.
Well, I think we're going to talk to Kate here in a little bit, potentially.
But...
I hope so.
Like, this style of adaptation just really appeals to me.
And that's why I hope it's good.
In addition to the cast, in a direct...
In addition to Maggie G., like, I just want a vision like this to be effective.
And Christian Bale.
I mean, Christian Bail.
For his years, Christian Bail was like gold standard.
If he's in your movie, this is going to be an interesting movie.
Say the words love and thunder recently?
Well, they fell away, but that was not his part of it.
Not innocent.
He was.
He was not the problem.
We are a pro-god killer on this podcast.
It sounds like you kind of like softly attempted to plan the flag there that you'd be taking Spider-Noire in the fifth round with your wild car pick.
That's a thing you just tried to intercept us into just like allowing.
Keep that in mind.
I recently discovered for the first time that that's a live action series.
Yeah.
Insane and amazing.
I thought there was a chance that that would go in like the second round of this draft.
It might look, I need to see
A-A-O-A image before I can get excited about that.
I feel more optimistic and not seeing the images.
Oh, you can take it right now.
Oh, I'm not taking it right now.
That's not going to be good.
He's got another big role this year, by the way.
He's also playing John Madden.
And Jesus Christ.
Which we discussed whether or not that was an adaptation of the...
That already came out?
No, he was Joseph.
He was the carpenter.
Oh, I thought he was Jesus in the desert.
No, he's just Jesus to you.
The film is the carpenter's son.
Emma Thompson is my Jesus.
Joe, what do you take him?
In sequel, I think I'm just going to lean into this whole vampire and witch's energy.
And I'm taking practical magic, too.
That's actually what I thought you were going to pick when you said witches earlier.
Interesting.
We were talking before this pot, and Joe was saying that Joey King's presence in this movie is what she's most excited about.
That is not what I said.
No.
My God.
Your Honor.
You were in the green room firing shots in.
Joey King, I did not even bring her up.
I was just saying, like, does she have to be in this movie?
Don't drag me into this.
Sandy and Nicole are back.
They are.
Now, listen, are there many reasons which I should be skeptical of this?
Sure.
I never wanted Hocus Pocus to, and it turns out I was right.
So, you know, there's like many money grab sequel sort of, there's a lot of energy coming off of this.
That being said, Suzanne Bier, who is a director, is a director I really, really admire.
and Lee Pace is here
and I don't think I need to say anything else, honestly.
But if you wanted to say something else,
you could talk about how handsome he is for a minute.
Can I just say that if you go to the practical magic
to Wikipedia page, per Sean's point about,
is an upcoming American romantic fantasy film.
So they're trying to put this in the romantic
bucket, which is not how I would have thought of
the first practical magic film.
This is a film about sisters.
sure. Lee Pace is also here.
This is a movie in desperate need
of a subtitle. This is...
Suggest one right now. Workshop it right now.
Practical, too, colon, practically magic.
Like, practically magic coal.
Still practicing?
Still, still...
Still witching.
Practitioners...
That would have like...
The Lord of the Rings, colon, the Rings of Power.
Too many of the words repeat.
Still murdering...
It's a little too, Pennyworth, colon, the life of that man's...
It's practical magic, too. We love money.
I miss, we love the 80s, and you would just put it too at the end of your sequel name.
Unless you were electric boogalooing.
It's true, but why are you touting that as a good thing?
Anyway, this is...
Practical Magic 2 colon Messiah.
Let's take it.
This is based on Alice Hoffman's novel, The Book of Magic, and it's a sequel to the original novel.
And I, against all odds, am quite excited for practical magic.
too. And I do think it's going to make a lot of money, but that's not why I picked it.
I think Sandy's got a real handle on life. I feel like she really knows what she's doing.
Where she's like, I don't take a couple years off, come back, movie makes $500 million, take
a couple years off, come back, raising my family.
You want to give it a try? A sabbatical, a Sandy sabbatical? A Dr. Robbie sabbatical?
Don't tell me with a good time.
Dr. Robbie's not going on that sabbatical, I don't think.
And neither would Sean. And neither would Sean. Stalker Channing back for this as well?
Diane Weist.
Maisie Williams?
Yeah.
Interesting.
Joey King,
Rob's favorite actor.
I would prefer...
Weisted and Channing are here.
I mean, like, what else could you want?
Look, instead of Joey King in this movie,
if you had Stocker Channing,
do the Zagorney Weaver de-aged,
also playing a young person,
I think it would be better.
That's tough for me to hear.
Bottom line, put the lime in the coconut.
I'm ready to go back.
Practical magic, too.
Okay.
I will be selecting as my sequel.
sticking with a little bit of a theme here
embracing the spirit of childhood,
the spirit of play,
the spirit of nostalgia,
and the spirit of,
frankly,
it's never been bad once.
Toy Story 5.
It had to be.
I'm kind of shocked
this fell this far.
I thought you would take it higher.
I thought Toy Story 4 was like
just so aggressively fine.
No,
I think it's good.
I think it's fine.
I think the problem is it is good.
Would you think if that's good
if you,
like, didn't have a kid.
You didn't have one at the time.
I was like,
I'm alive.
I saw it alone at the
What's the theater in Hollywood, the Disney owned?
The El Capitan sat in the balcony.
Had an absolute blast thinking of Keanu Reeves
doing what's his name?
New Kaboom.
The Keanu peal stuff in it is very good.
Keanu's fun.
It's always wonderful.
I thought it was just...
Forky's great.
I feel like...
I'm more excited for Hoppers, the other Pixar film
than I am for Toy Story Pad.
Hoppers will be great.
There's a very positive buzz on this one
because I understand back
and the premise of the iPad being the villain
A tablet coming in tech as a villain.
In some ways, I think, like, okay, should that have been the plot of Toy Story 4?
Maybe we're a little late for the idea as tech as the villain.
But I suspect that this will really scratch and itch that we like to have scratch when we sit down to watch a great Pixar movie.
And Toy Story specifically, like, porting us into a certain headspace and a shared experience.
I really am looking forward to this.
I would be astonished if this was bad.
That's the other thing.
It's not going to be bad.
How high is the ceiling?
Who knows?
but the floor very high.
And I think in the fourth round
there's good strategy there
and it's also something I'm genuinely
anticipating and excited about
and would really love to be good.
So yeah, Toy Story 5 is my sequel.
Welcome to the squad.
There's a really cool,
I don't know if it's still up,
but I was at Pixar a couple months ago
and there was this really cool
anniversary exhibition
of like the original Toy Story film
and there's just like all these like
clay designs
of what
Buzz and Woody were originally.
supposed to look like and all this original art.
And it's just like very nostalgic, like very cool and nostalgic.
I'm in a nostalgic mood.
I'm in the mood, right?
I think in general this year to tap back into things that I know bring me joy.
I love that.
I just, I want Pixar to regain its supremacy.
I absolutely want that.
And perhaps Toy Story 5 is the way to do it.
I just like, I really want its new properties, its new fresh ideas to do.
to do really well.
So I'm really hopeful for Hoppers.
We'll see, but I'm really, really hopeful for that.
I have two picks.
You do.
I know exactly what I'm doing.
Everything's still coming up fantasy for you?
There's some really good stuff on the board here.
Yeah, an adaptation, I'm taking Resident Evil.
Nice.
This is Zach Craigers' fall-up to weapons.
I've never played a Resident Evil video game in my life.
Where are you in general on your pledge made on this very podcast?
Just the most preposterous thing I've ever heard in my life.
I'm going to vote 8,000 hours this year to playing video games.
To play an Eldon Ring specifically.
I estimate I have roughly 75 years of life left.
So I will live to 118.
What are your secrets?
Because I feel very strong and very healthy.
And I feel that I'm living my life in a way in which I'm only getting stronger.
Are you also spending a lot of time in the sauna?
I would never.
Are you also taking creatine?
No, not all of us are so blessed.
I have made zero progress on my pledge.
Zero. Okay.
Zero progress.
Thanks for being honest.
I would like to make some.
Here's the thing that happened.
Nobody cares, but I'm going to share anyway.
You just cross a threshold with a child where you're like,
I don't have to be hovering over you every five seconds.
And when that happens, you're like, oh my God, I have my life back.
Not fully.
But then you just read tweets about the bets.
I mean, that did happen for the last six weeks.
And I was justified in doing that.
But now that that period is over, if I would,
want to take up another hobby. It's in play.
You're watching Alavandor season two and tweeting about it.
I felt great about that. That was time well spent.
Yeah. How are you feeling about Sam Darnold in the Super Bowl?
I'm really happy for him. I am really happy for him.
That's really sweet. He seems like a really good guy and it's great how he turned his career around.
And I have no ill will towards him. I love him. The Patriots can die in a fire.
I would like to play more video games. I'm probably not going to play Resident Evil.
Okay. I think you should, though. Like there's a new one coming out in February.
I actually think it's a great entry point
if you're going to jump back into this stuff.
I'm kind of like, I'm a very mission-oriented person.
Eradicating zombies isn't a mission to you?
Well, that kind of like open world adventure level game
doesn't never really appealed to me.
And so part of the challenge of the other games
that we were talking about is just the vastness of them
and getting lost inside of them is appealing to me.
And everybody was like, this guy, doesn't know who he's signing up for.
I know what I'm signing up for.
I read the Wikipedia of these games.
I don't think you do. I'm not saying I'm going to beat them.
I think I would like to try.
But I think throwing myself inside of something big,
Resident Evil is the opposite, right?
This is going to be a two-hour movie and it's going to fucking rip.
If this movie is good, I'll be shocked.
Like, Zach Greger has proven that he knows how to make incredibly entertaining genre fair,
which is the most important thing.
He also is clearly dispensing with a lot of the mythology around Resident Evil,
which has been kind of elevated and torn to shreds by Paul W.S. Anderson over the last two decades.
And he's just a filmmaker and a writer that I trust bringing Austin Abrams from weapons to this movie.
I'm so excited for Austin Abrams.
Big Euphoria, Austin Apron
Euphoria fan
loved him in weapons.
I thought that was such a good role for him.
And like, I'm most excited for him
as this like big career boost
being the lead in a resonating film.
We'll see.
It's got a plumb fall or release date,
you know, like it should be.
Yeah.
It's going to be sick.
It should be good.
It's going to see.
Okay.
You're a wild card to close out your squad here,
your hype squad.
Oh.
To recap really quickly,
you have Doom Part 3,
Spider-Man, Brand New Day,
Lanterns, Resident Evil.
Good team.
Pretty good.
I've got variety, right?
I've got all the kind of the major worlds
that I want to get involved in.
You've got a bunch of money on the board here, too.
Got a lot of money on the board.
I'm going to take a curio
that I don't know if you guys have heard about.
Maybe you have.
I'll be taking the TV show Oswald,
the Lucky Rabbit.
Yeah.
Okay.
This is a new animated live action television show
coming to Disney Plus later this year,
created by John Fabro.
Rob, do you know who Oswald the Lucky Rabbit is?
I have no awareness of this character.
This is the character that Walt Disney created before Mickey Mouse.
He created him with UBWorks, who was the same person he co-created Mickey Mouse with.
He created this character for Universal in 1927.
Wow.
One year later, Universal took control of the character.
Walt Disney left, started his own company, began creating his own characters,
and this show probably exists in part because of the things that Walt Disney left.
what Disney went on to do.
Now,
this show,
Hussabar.
This show, the ringerverse,
much of what the pop culture
that happens.
I'm not sure if Disney doesn't exist.
I don't know if this level of coverage
exists in the space.
Thanks, Walt.
Thank you, Walt.
In 2006, something really interesting happened.
Disney decided
they wanted to get control of Oswald
the Lucky Rabbit after almost a century.
It resided with Universal.
So the way, do you know this story?
The way in which they acquired
Oswald is they trace
the living human Al Michaels
from ABC Disney
still thriving by the way
to Universal Comcast NBC
so that he could call games for Thursday night football
and they got the rights to Oswald
this is like when Doc Rivers got traded for a first round pick
like I didn't even know you could do this but it's a one for one
this isn't a pick to be named later this is a this is a
animated rabbit and a 70 year old
announcer will you be asking Al to come podcast about this program with you
Al has not been as sharp as I would have liked in those Amazon broadcasts.
He did resign for another year.
I saw that news.
I'm happy for him.
How confident are you that this is coming out this year?
Oh, we have our first time frame challenge.
I'm pretty confident.
Okay.
Now it wasn't much of a challenge.
I don't think it is.
Feels like post Mando and Grogu action, winter 2026.
I don't think we should push because I think if it doesn't come out this year, it helps the rest of us and hurts him.
His team is incredibly strong.
Oh, no, it is.
Here's the other thing. First of all, don't care about winning. I think this is just fun to talk about. Sure. Two. So this is a 100-year-old character. Do you know anything about this rabbit? A terrible character. Like, not interesting. The whole idea... Not interesting. The whole idea is that it's like a Who Frame Roger Rabbit style thing. Sure. This character is going into the world that's going to have a very metatechial approach. Who Frame Roger Rabbit? One of the most important movies in my life.
Sure, of course. Very great. Absolutely. And frankly, I just need John Fevere to do something different. I just really need him to try something different. And this feels different. The cast includes Amy Seddy's
Ares, Catherine Hahn, and Steve Martin.
I mean, that's great.
So your pick is John Favreau get a hobby, and it's this movie?
No, it's the meta-nature of Hollywood history intersecting with IP on Disney Plus.
How sharp do you think John Favro's pen is?
Well, we'll wait and see.
You're looking for the studio from John Favro.
Is that what you're looking for?
I think Disney's the studio is a good idea.
Everything you're describing feels like, didn't they do like a Chippendale reboot that was basically what you're describing?
They did. It wasn't great.
It wasn't bad.
Okay.
It was fine.
It was fine.
I liked it fine.
I'm just mixing it up here, guys.
Sure.
Just trying to bring something new to them.
And I love that.
Thank you so much for doing that.
I definitely thought you were going to pick.
So patronizing.
I definitely thought you were going to pick Clayface.
I already have a DC property, but I am excited for Clayface.
Was it the same tone when you were like, I'm so glad you guys found each other.
It was the same one.
It was the same one that I referred to in our hamnet discussion, you know?
That's nice.
You like that.
All that's nice for you.
Great.
All right, Molly Rubin, we are running out of time.
What do you got?
I'm torn between three, but really two things.
And I know what I want to pick, and that is what I'm going to pick.
I just have some reservations about, frankly, leaving the other thing on the board for Rob, who I assume will take it, which is annoying.
But I guess we'll deal with that.
You don't want him to have Spider-Noir.
Not bad, actually.
You're welcome to take Spider-N-N-War.
I'm excited for Spider-N-N-War.
I'm not going to say the other thing that I am considering.
until after everybody picks and then we can talk.
We'll do a very, like, a lightning round.
Oh, my God, we can't believe X didn't get taken.
So I am going to pick a pending, as my wildcard, a pending television show, coming to Amazon,
in a fictional universe that is one of the dearest to me.
I will be selecting Blade Runner 2099, which is the ultimate, if this is good, we're just thriving,
we're living, how wonderful to be us.
And if it's bad, that would really suck.
But the original Blade Runner film is, I would say, the seminal text in my home and my marriage.
Crazy.
Indeed.
Pegasus, indeed.
And I think the Villeneuve follow-up film is quite good and underrated.
Masterpiece, as far as I'm concerned.
Thank you.
I'm looking forward to this.
Interesting cast.
Tom Burke, Hunter Schaefer, Michelle Yo.
I hope this is dynamite.
Yeah.
That would be amazing.
I'm looking forward to, I think on the one hand
the fact that IP creep has not
totally come for and claimed Blade Runner
is kind of a blessing, but on the
other hand, it is an under-explored
and undermined universe
compared to some of the other things that we
spend a lot of our time
talking about watching. So I hope
this is good. I think that would be great. So that's
my pick to close out my team. So I have the Odyssey
as my adaptation. A Night of the Seven
Kingdoms is my television show. The Mandalorian
and Grogo is my movie. Toy Story 5
as my sequel and Blade Runner 2099
is my wildcard.
And honestly, I'm excited,
genuinely excited about all of those.
I like this big.
I also really hope this is good.
I mean, just the idea of a co-headlined
Michelle Yo Hunter Schaefer
sci-fi series.
Yes.
Very appealing to me.
Wonderful.
And you have to like shoehorn it into IP
because this is what we do now.
But like, I feel like it could be good.
I hope so tough to pull off the tone
and the scale and the specifics of the visuals.
We've got the Amazon money behind it.
I mean, that's really the saving grace, I hope.
Let's try.
Okay.
Somebody who saw Alien Earth and also saw, what was the other joint that was trying to do, Doom Prophecy.
Doom Prophecy was tough.
Doom Prophecy was tough. Alien Earth was uneven, but much more successful than Doom Prophecy.
And this is where it's just really hard to do, right?
Like, at least get some of the grandeur.
We like Rings of Power a lot.
But I will say outside Rings of Power, I think Amazon's track record of these big shows has not been huge.
I mean, Fallout Season 1 was really like real regarded.
but season two not so much.
Wheel of Time, of course, famously canceled.
Wheel of Time, tough.
Okay.
My last pick, because Noseferatu is one of my favorite films,
I'm picking Werewolf by Robert Egers.
Are we sure it's not Verwolf?
Vervulf, it is.
Wolfie.
Aaron Taylor Johnson, back for the Craven vibes here,
Lily Rose Depp off of Nesferatu.
Lom DeFoe couldn't do it without him.
I'm Ralph Inneson.
I hope this is as,
I mean, listen.
Robert Eggers is not always, always, always my favorite.
Like, the Northman was a challenging endeavor.
And this could be more Northman than it is Nospheratu.
But I'm hoping it's more Nospheratu or the Vovic, you know, something like that.
So I just love Nosephratu so much that I'm really hopeful that this is like, this has me more excited than like the mummy movie that's coming out of.
I thought you might pick a movie.
Jack Rainer, who I love and I'm always rooting for.
but better wolves.
I think it's great that you still found a way
to connect it to a vampire.
Thank you.
Honestly,
which is a vampires and aliens.
I'm excited about this movie too.
I'm not nagging the pick at all.
It's wherewolf movies are hard.
There's not a lot of good werewolf movies.
It's a very challenging.
Again, it's on the digital effect like front.
That's going to be really tough.
It's true.
So my draft is Disclosure Day for a movie,
The Vampire List Out for Television, Chronicles of Narnia for adaptation,
Practical Magic 2 for sequel,
and Vervolf or Wildcard.
You're an influencer, Rob.
I appreciate that.
I had Vervolf on my list as well.
I think it's very appealing, especially in this spot.
So everyone is selected, right?
Yeah, it's the last part.
I can kind of talk it out.
To be honest, I'm stuck between two things.
One of which is a movie I have been assured is good,
and that's Coyote versus Acme.
Oh, yeah.
A movie that...
I'm excited for that.
Interesting. The people have seen...
I think that would be a good pick.
Like, now has this mythology behind it?
I'm excited to see it.
Most of the people who have seen it made it for the record.
They're the ones who are telling you it's good.
But I like those people and I trust their taste.
If Will Forte tells me something is good.
Can you believe him?
God damn it.
I am inclined to believe it.
But I think I'm going to go in the other direction
and really follow my heart on this.
And I say this because
Godzilla has scared me.
That's, I should.
That was my other choice.
Yeah.
Godzilla has scared me.
He has thrilled me.
He has only once made me cry.
And that was Godzilla minus one.
So I simply have to take Godzilla minus zero
the direct sequel in Wildcard.
When I said a couple minutes ago,
I'm torn between two.
two things. It was Blade Runner and Godzilla
minus zero and I knew you would pick it. I knew it.
It's because it speaks to us. If I wanted to win and destroy you guys forever, I would have
taken Godzilla. I also thought you were going to picket. I wanted to just talk about Oswald
the lucky rabbit. That's beautiful.
That's big of you. You're welcome. I think that's an excellent. Rapid fire, anything that
anyone wants to shout out. It would have sucked if that didn't get taken. We had to get it off
the board. I think it's, so the boys, the final season of the boys. No one took
house of the dragon. We talked about that a lot already, but let's just remark that no
took it, which on a house of our draft is frankly pretty weird.
Supergirl, Clayface.
The final season of the boys, no one took.
The two DC movies, Supergirl and Clayface.
Hunger Games, Sunrise on the Reaping.
That cannot be the name of that movie.
It might be good.
Honestly, it looks good to me.
I liked the last Hunger Games movie.
I didn't, but I thought this one looked good because it's like doing fake Midsamar
and I thought that was a good idea.
No one took Bone Temple, which they could have, obviously.
I guess.
That feels against the spirit.
I guess Night of the Seven Kingdoms is at least ongoing.
It's ongoing.
Bone Temple's in the past.
If someone wanted money, the
Super Mario sequel would be money.
If there were still an animation category, that's my doubts about that one.
I think it's going to be great.
Money wise?
No, I think it's going to do well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is Rings of Power season three coming out this year?
I don't know.
I don't, I wouldn't put any money on it.
It's hard to, hard to know.
Asoka Season 2?
Uh, Asoka.
Wonder Man?
Wonder Man, which is...
Legitimately good trailer.
Legitimately good trailer.
Yeah, I'm hopeful.
It's good.
It's good.
It's good.
I'll take good.
I was very charmed about it.
I'm a little surprised neither of you guys picked the mall show.
I thought Joanna would take the mall show in the first round.
I need a little help on mall
temporality. Oh, he's a robot
trash spider now.
Is that...
You see that? That's correct.
I mean, that is correct.
Is that also true in this show?
In Mall Shadow Lord?
Once you do what you said you would do earlier at this pod
and you watch all of the Clone Wars and Rebels.
I didn't say I would do that.
After you finished by Eldon Ring.
I was thinking about watching Clone Wars.
You'll know all you need to know about Mall.
I never agreed to Rebels.
Subtitles.
How do you feel about Ready or Not to,
colon, here I come.
We got, now you see me, now you don't.
And now we got, here we come.
I doff my cap, obviously.
I really loved Ready or Not.
The first one is really good.
And now with more Sarah Michelle Geller than ever.
That's true.
The problem is that one of the reasons why Ready or Not is so good
is because it ends magnificently.
It does.
And it did not cry out for a sequel,
but I will watch the sequel, of course.
Vision Quest.
Vision Quest.
Daredevil Born again, Season 2.
Invincible Season 4.
One Piece.
We're getting Jessica.
Jones on Daredevil, right? That's the thing that's happening?
Correct. That's exciting. The Legend of Ang,
the last Airbender? We're getting an
Avatar movie? Was the Punisher
special draftable? Yes.
The Frank Caton's one-off?
Absolutely. Okay. But like you kind of
drafted the Punisher already because he's in
he's in Spidey. Yes, which I'm very excited
about. Have you heard anything about I Love Boosters
the Boots Riley movie?
Nothing nice. Okay. Oh boy.
That's tough. Noted. Nobody took
Grand Thefto. Like we joked about
about Ben not being here earlier, but that
would be a completely defensible pick.
I really want to see Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat 2.
Yes.
I don't know that they'll be good,
but they also fit the Cyclops going apeshit mold of like,
I was 11 once.
And when I was, this is what was happening in my life.
Well, if you were a Cyclops, which we've established you are,
who are you in a street fighter or Mortal Kombat sense?
It's a great question.
Which X-Men is Robahoney?
Vega, yeah.
I mean, Vega's good energy for you.
I would say Vega.
No, you're Vega.
Oh, I'm Vega.
You have great Vega.
I'll take Vega.
I'm Vega.
I'm a, I don't know.
I'm a kitty pride.
You know, I don't know.
Who's to say?
I think of Kitty Pride.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
It's admirable.
No one took Liana.
Damn, that sucks.
Ice man.
That's the meanest thing you've ever said to me.
That's not sure.
No one took Cat in the hat.
No one took Hoppers.
Moana.
The Burros.
All right.
Malana looks bad.
I'm really excited for this year.
There's a lot of really exciting stuff.
For our pod.
A lot of books to read.
We got Narnia.
It's the Lord of the Rings anniversary year.
We haven't even like fully figured out how we're going to tackle that.
Can't wait.
The Odyssey, there's a lot to read.
There's a lot to enjoy.
Anything else you guys want to say before we go?
Masters of the Universe.
Let's go.
That trailer was brutal.
Let's fucking go, maybe.
Adam?
That trailer was brutal.
I have the power?
It's, I thought that trailer did not look very good.
I will say that.
seemed pretty excited. You and Jared Leto can enjoy each other, you know?
I love how they just straight up skull-faced him. Like, we just do not see Jared Letto in that trailer.
Nope. What do you think Jared Leto has on all of Hollywood? I don't know. That's a great question.
I don't know. I didn't even talk to you guys about my Tron Aries experience in New York where I just bought a ticket to an early access screening and he just walked out of this into the screening. He was like, welcome everybody to Tron Aries. Everybody was like, who are you? Like, no one cared about him. They weren't there for him. I saw the footage to him doing that in San Francisco at the IMAX and it was like a sparsely a,
attended viewing, and then they posted that video anyway, and I was like, I simply would not
have posted that video personally. I went to Tron Aries at a late night showing with four friends
who were the only people in the theater, had a great time. Bad movie, really fun time at the
cinema. Yeah. If you can find a dessert, that's also how I saw Morbius. If you can find a deserted
like movie theater to watch a Jared Lido film. Morbius was a Monday morning screening. Remember
that? Where's the Tron Arias episode of House of Arr? We did not do one. Buried under the wheels of
the light cycle. All right.
That is our hype draft 2026.
Worth the wait.
Thank you so much, Rob Mahoney, for joining us.
Thanks for having me.
Thanks for coming back, Sean Fennessee.
We'll see you for every single lanterns episode.
I think you've committed to that.
We're fucking lanterns.
Thank you to Carlos Chiroboga.
Thank you to our junior Raq Powell.
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