House of R - Top 10 Fandom Throuples, Inspired by 'Challengers'

Episode Date: April 30, 2024

To celebrate the hot-and-heavy sports thriller 'Challengers,' Jo and Mal are here to discuss some of their favorite fandom throuples (09:36). From ‘X-Men’ to ‘LOTR,’ they talk about the ins and outs and ups and downs of fiction's best polyamorous players. Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman Additional Production: Arjuna Ramgopal Social: Jomi Adeniran Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You think that tennis is about expressing yourself doing your thing. You don't know what tennis is. What is it? How often does this happen? Going after the same girl? Come here. Which one of us? To House of R, I'm Joanna Robinson joining you today. She's one third of the third of the Thruple that makes this podcast. It's Mallory Rubin. Am I? How you doing? I'm ready to head to the court. Get sweaty. Grab some balls. Let's go.

The third member of our trio is, of course, Stephen Allman on the soundboard today. We are here to talk about, not really talk about the Zendaya vehicle challengers, a tennis movie that we have seen. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. And we will talk very briefly about it, where we'll do like a mini segment. But if you have not seen challengers or you already got your fill of challengers discussion over on the big pick or something like that, this is not like really a challenges episode. This is a thinly veiled excuse for us to take the peg of challengers, a movie in which three extremely hot people circle each other sexually and use it to talk about throuples in fandom. If you're like sitting at home, you're like, I don't even know what a Thruple is. I'll get into it, I promise. Stay tuned. First and foremost, though. Yeah.

Let's do program reminders. Over on the Ringerverse. By the way, when I suggested this, Mallory was like, immediate yes. I was like, we should do Thruples of fandom. And she's like, no notes. No notes. Let's do it. Great.

Here we are. And also I should say, Ringer, House of R always contains adult content, but this mayhap more than other weeks. So put the headphones on your children and send them out of the room with the iPad or something like that. Anyway, over on the ringerverse. Right now in your feed, you can listen to a new show. We're calling Ringiverse Recommends. It's a really fun little capsules like a 20-something minute pod where you can listen to all of us give recommendations of books, shows, video games, etc.

that we haven't covered in depth on either Bringerversive House of R, but we think is worth noting. We've had really positive receptions to this little show that I think Arjuna and Ben Lindbergh spearheaded. So check it out. And then eventually you'll be able to see little videos of us doing those recommendations. Mallory talked about Dead Boy Detectives, a really fun Yale Gaman show. I talked about a book. There's just like a bunch of fun stuff on their. Van, I think, talked about wrestling.

Whatever, man. We do what we want to do. It's ringer-verse. Ben's video is up already. For his fans. The comments are rolling in, folks. Love it. Did he have his, does he still have his beard?

The paternity leave beard? Okay. No, clean shaving currently. Okay. Last I saw him, he was very bearded. Okay. Over on the ringerverse, the midnight boys, Poo-boo, we'll talk about whatever the hell they want,

but probably at least a little X-Men 97. Over on the Mint a Dish, they are doing a comics check-in. So if you're like, okay, bulk recommendations are one thing, but what about comic books? Well, that's what the Mint crew is here for. And then Button Match is doing 2004 video games draft. So that is all happening over on the Ringerverse. Lots of fun stuff are there. Over here later this week, Ben Lindberg and Mallory Rubin will be doing a Star Wars animation check-in.

So that's really exciting for that batch. and possibly Tales of the Empire of the timing works out, etc. Next week, Mallory and I are covering baseball question. While committing to anything currently slotted for next week on the public record is bold. I admire it. Let's go for it. Here's the thing I know we're doing. The baseball one has moved so many times that I don't know if we're doing.

Something baseball has slid on the cow a couple times. But, you know, the good news is maybe it'll happen next Tuesday and we have if not until the Orioles hoist the championship trophy in October. What we will be talking about next week and we'll dabble a little bit

in it today. We're talking about vampires. We're going to do a vampire's tropes course next week. So hobbits and dragons at gmail.com if you have any vampire thoughts and feelings you want to send,

whether it's like book recommendations, why you think vampires are so sticky in our culture phrasing, etc. So Mallory. Yeah. How can folks keep track of all that juicy content on the ringerverse, everything that we're doing? What do you think?

I would recommend that folks follow the pod. Follow the pod on Spotify or wherever you get your podcast. And then, you know, your phone's in your hand. So just keep it and follow. Follow the ringerverse on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok. And then you have further thoughts and musings, questions, comments, Apple Wars takes, pickles to sign with. Send your emails. Hobbit to Dragons at gmail.com. We got a bunch of emails from you find folks about Thruples, and that's what we used to put

our list together today. So that's really exciting. We're going to name and shame all of you. Actually, no shame. No shame. No shame. Safe space of spaces. Spoiler warning. Listen, we are going to talk about challengers. We have no interest in spoiling challengers. So we're just going to be very, like, loosely talking about challengers very briefly. Vibes only. You do not. have to have seen challengers to listen to this podcast. You simply, the only requirement for listening to this podcast is at some point in your life, you have to have spent some time thinking about fictional characters fucking each other. That's it. There you go. So that's it said, sort of a blanket-ish spoiler warning for, you know, Star Wars, MCU, et cetera, the Lord of the Rings,

all the things that we always talk about will be engaging with those properties on some medium, spoiler-ish level. So that's just out there. challengers. Let's start here. Okay. Oh, by the way, quick story. Okay. Speaking of the Big Pick. Oh, yeah. Stunt on them. Do it. Folks don't know. Yeah. Sean and Amanda and their usual third member of their thruple, Chris Ryan, invited us on to the Big Pick and us being Mallory Rubin, Van Leithen, yours truly, and Rob Mahoney to part take in a massive 1999 film draft. That is up on the big pick, big one.

Up on YouTube, you can watch us do it and or you can listen to us do it. But the most important thing is the winners have been announced. Yeah. Third place, bronze on the podium. It's Mallory Rubin. Second place silver. Thrilled to not finish and last. Yeah, honestly.

That was all we wanted. That was like Mallory and I were like, all we want is to not lose. Mallory got third. Van got second silver, and I barely eeked out first gold. And that means ringerverse dominated the podium. That means we walked into the Big Pigs House and drank their milkshake, ate their lunch, took their lives from them. So let's not discuss whether or not Sean has decimated us on any drafts here over in House of Bar. It's not important.

Relevant for today's exercise. Today is that the power thruple of Van Mallory and Joanna absolutely crushed. crushed the 1999 film draft. And you can watch Sean and Amanda react to that reality on the Big Pick Twitter feed. Jomi did us a solid and got their live reactions on video. Yeah. I am choosing to ignore the final three to four seconds of that lovely video where Sean says that we will never be invited back.

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Borshead committed to craft since 1905. Challengers. A big pick classic. This is from the great Luca Guadainio, the man who forever changed the way that we think about peaches. A horny classic from Luca Guadino, starring Zendaya, Josh O'Connor, a favorite of Mallory.

and yours truly and Mike Feist, another favorite of mine, just showing up to play tennis and be horny for each other for two hours and ten minutes. At one point in this movie, the film Spider-Verse is mentioned and so on that thinnest splinter of association, we're going to loop it here into the ringerverse. Mallory Rubin. Yeah. Just briefly. That's the hook.

I love it. Okay, yeah. Take us through your experience watching Challenges. I had a blast at the movies. I had a great time at the movies. I went to see this film on Sunday late afternoon slash early evening. Nice. And I feel certain.

I'm going to say like 20% of my fellow. fellow moviegoers had no idea what film they were there to see. Just simply no idea. How did that manifest? Like, what are the murmurs and sounds and ooze and awe's that you heard that let you know that that was happening? You can feel it certainly in the body language, I think. Oh, uncomfortable shifting.

This was a theater. Yes, as is often the case now in Los Angeles with the recliners, you know. And there's some squirming in the recliners. I had a blast. This was a, first of all, we're not here today to talk about the score, though obviously music can be a part of an intimate experience in life. The score, would you call it banging?

Pulsating? It's a throbbing, pulsating score. Language. Joanna, you texted me after you saw. I saw Challenger's on Sunday. You saw it on Monday. And you texted me, the first thing you texted me about was the sweat. Yeah.

Would you like to comment? for a moment here on the sweat. I have some thoughts I'd like to share momentarily on Joshua Connor, but let's discuss the sweat first. I believe the big pick, the big pick pod headline for the movie was Challengers is sweaty, sexy, and undeniable. There's so much like a good summation. Sweat in this movie. And it made me wonder, have I ever sweat enough in my life? Like, am I unhealthily unswety? Sexy, sweaty and undeniable. I apologize. Sweets just pouring off of Mike and Josh in these tennis scenes. And I was just envisioning the, like, PA who had to, like, hose them down between takes to make sure that they could just, like, pool sweat onto the clay.

The wet bump is a passion of yours. So this was a big moment for you as a wet bump scholar. Yeah. Wet bump being the extra pay you get. It's really for background actors, but that's okay. It's an extra pay you get if you have to perform whilst wet, a pay bump. And so the phrase wet bump, incredible. We'll be talking about different, different kind of wet bump today.

Yeah. Yeah. So this is a story of three people in a triangle of sexual, psychological sports play. There's a lot of tennis. There's an astonishing amount of tennis in this movie. I'm not a tennis person, but I had a great time with the tennis. There's so many times that a tennis, Paul Zoom's. directly at the camera and you're just like... And then there's some later stuff that are Juna and I, who both abhor a shaky cam,

were bonding over that we didn't like. But I loved this movie. I had a great time. It is incredibly horny, incredibly... Everyone's wonderful in it. What do you want to say about Mr. Josh O'Connor? So obviously Zendaya is an icon and a legend and one of our greatest, not only celebrities, but humans. This is, this is, it is known, as they say. So nothing new there, just more evidence, right?

A wonderful Zendaya performance. This was my first exposure to Mike Feist to our job. Do you have a great time? Yeah. I had an absolutely wonderful time. He was a sensational performer. Yeah. You know. And anyone who listened to our prestige TV coverage of. the crown in prior years knows how we feel about Josh O'Connor. Josh O'Connor's performance as Prince Charles I think is one of the great performances

in recent television history. When I watched Challenger's, I thought why is Josh O'Connor not one of the five most famous people alive? Like that was how I felt about it. He is just mesmerizing. It's magnetic.

It's unbelievable. I'm really, really, really, really excited for a lot of new people to discover Josh O'Connor through this movie and become raptured. I think this is going to be huge. Just like Call Me By Your Name was huge for Timmy. Like, I think this is just going to be huge for both Josh and Mike. And I think that Mike, I think is incredible. If you haven't seen the Spielberg West Side story, he's so good in that. The Man Sings and Dances as well.

And the fact that he and Zendaya are dancers, like, was very clear to me throughout. But the fact that Josh O'Connor can show up with these two train dancers. And there's a sequence of a swath of this movie where he is supposed to be, like, unshowered down on his luck. Desperate for half of a Dunkin bagel. Playing in, like, a ratty t-shirt and, like, plaid boxers, essentially. and you can just like smell him in like a good, bad, you decide sort of way. Joshua Conner, wonderful. Incredible performances, incredible film, incredibly horny, had a great time watching it.

It inspired what we're going to do today. The practice, the exercise that we're going to do today, aided by our lovely bad baby listeners is we're going to count down what we have decided are the top 10. They should have been Thruples, a combination of characters in fandom. We have picked one trio from each of our major fandom based on the nominations that we got from our listeners, and we have ranked them. And Mali and I will sort of trade off talking about them, though either one of us is perfectly welcome to chime in on any of these very important topics. I like to think, too, that this is just the beginning of a journey. You know, as you noted, the bad baby submissions, crucial part of this.

And so if anything is missing, if you're listening, you're like, why don't you talk about thing X? Great news. Write in. Nominate that thruple for next time. And maybe this becomes an ongoing exercise in some capacity. This is not necessarily a comprehensive text. But we have, you know, as I think is appropriate in a thruple in a new relationship where, experimenting.

Experimenting and sussing out the dynamics in real time, we have been open to receiving what you have given us. And now we will, we will share our thoughts in turn. Okay. Are you ready to begin? A load of ellipsies. No, I have a little bit more preamble to go and then we're going to get into it. Do you want to begin with by explaining what a thruple is to people?

I will. I'm going to do it with this example, which is a much more concrete connection between the world of fandom and the subject matter that we're here to talk about today. And one of our listeners wrote in to remind me of this movie's existence. In 2017, there's a movie called Professor Marson and the Wonder Woman, starring Luke Evans, Rebecca Hall, Bella Heathcote, and it's the true story of William Multim Marston, the man who created Wonder Woman. And the fact that he was married to a wonderful woman, Elizabeth, who he adored. And then his research assistant also got involved in a relationship. And so they had a

thrupley, polyamorous relationship. This is a true historical fact in the 1920s. And also some light bondages involved. And that's why Wonder Woman has like a lasso truth. So a great movie, a really fun movie. Luke Evans, Rebecca Hall. So that is a core tenet of fandom is that the origin of Wonder Woman comes from a power thruple of the 1920s. Sensational. If you're sitting at home, you've listened to all of this and you're like, God dang it, what the hell is a thruple? I'm going to ask Aubrey Plaza, a.k. April Ludgate of Parks and Recreation Fame to explain to you at home what a thruple is. Steve, will you play this clip?

This is my boyfriend Derek. This is Derek's boyfriend, Ben. Hey. Hey. Oh, wait, sorry, what's the situation? What do you mean? How does this work? Derek is gay, but he's straight for me, but he's gay for Ben, and Ben's really gay for Derek. And I hate Ben. It's not that complicated. Oh, yeah.

Sure. The thing about youth culture is, I don't understand it. Thruples are, and we should, let's be very clear. Just as Mallory said, this is not a comprehensive ranking of throuples of fandom. We are not sexual scientists. We are not sexual sociologics. We are willing, eager dablers. The platonts in the world of thrupledom.

We have not gone pro yet. So if we say anything that feels wrong to you, an expert listening at home, Hobbes and drag is at Gmail.com. So you'd say this is a challenger. We're not at the U.S. Open. Yeah, exactly. We're working our way up. Okay. We're at a country club at New Rochelle.

It's fine. There's one other thruple audio that I want to play. This is a very popular TikTok audio. Steve, will you play this? I want two more friends. That's just, it's. Great summation. One cannot explain TikTok, but that is a very popular audio.

Oh, man. There's different kinds of thripples. You can be in a thruple where you're all interested in each other. You can be a thruple where, like, one person is dating two people, et cetera, et cetera. We might talk about some of those permutations here today. We're not going to get super technical about it. This is a vibes only countdown. We're going to count.

We're going to start at 10. We're going to go to one. Yeah. Uh-huh. Are you ready anything else you want to want to say before we get into this? Do you want to explain the concept of the alpha? Oh, the alpha. That's actually not a thruple term.

This is a Joanna. This is a Joanna special. Organization special. Yeah. You don't usually talk about alphas inside of a thruple. But we've just decided like we're going to suggest these throuples, suggest why they matter, and then say who we think is like the primary, like, Alpha of the relationship in Challenders, to be clear, it's Zendaya without question.

So we're not getting into like top, bottom, all that sort of stuff. We're just going to talk about thripples and alphas, which again is not a way that you usually talk about throuples. But we hear on the House of Ars, how we've decided to talk about it. Number 10 on our list. Again, loose fandom adjacent, but I think it counts. Sure. Why not?

This comes to our listener, Peter. Who suggested, and I think very clearly he's talking about the more recent television series version of this. Yeah. In the world of Sherlock, the Thruple being Holmes, Sherlock Holmes, Dr. John Watson, and Moriarty as played by Andrew Scott. Maller, how do you feel about this, this Ripple? One of the only purely always true things that I believe about our world is that Andrew Scott has chemistry with everyone. Correct. Always no matter what.

And so on that level alone, I co-sign and I am prepared to say a thruple, elementary. Why not? Let's do it. Three curious people. Inquisitive. Yeah. Thirsts for knowledge. Eager to explore and learn. Yes. About human nature.

And how each is another half of the whole, do you know? Because Moriarty is a mirror of Sherlock. John Watson is a mirror of Sherlock. The thing about a Thruple is this. It's not quite the golden trio thing that we talked about in our tropes course several weeks ago that you can listen to that if you want. In fact, I don't think there's much overlap between our Golden Trio groupings that we talked about and the threesomes, the triads that we're going to talk about today. But it is a way to sort of resolve a love triangle because a lot of the emails that we

got from our listeners included the phrase, because why not both? Why would I have to choose? Because oftentimes what makes a love triangle good in fiction is you can see both sides of it and you're like, both are compelling. So then it's like, why choose, man? So why not? Ben and a Cumberbatch, John Watson, as played by Martin Freeman, and Andrew Scott as Moriarty. I love this. Who is the alpha here?

Actually, this is really tough one for me. This is one of the harder ones. I don't think I have a clear answer. Yeah. But I think there's a possibility that John Watson could be a sneaky alpha in this relationship. Oh. Yeah. Yeah.

Interesting. Topping from the bottom. I think so. Yes. Fantastic. What a start. Number nine. Over to you, Mallory Rubin. Okay. We are heading to Middle Earth to chat Lord of the Rings for number nine. This Thruple nomination comes from Sean.

Aragorn. Aowin. Now, what I would like to say about this is anybody who has seen Aragorn open a door. at any point wants to fuck him. And this is just another true thing. Errigorn walked and sweated so that Josh and Mike could run and sweat. I don't know if we ever got anywhere in the trilogy

like the equivalent of, like when the drops of sweat, they're not even really droplets, it's when the gushing rivers of sweat. Gushing. Hit the court and it sizzles almost like. Like when you put bacon down on a frying pan, I don't know if we ever quite got sound design quite like that in the trilogy. But here in our head cannon.

But when he opens the door, why the wig is dripping. Oh, yeah. We're just missing the sound design, but we can in our, in our thruple cut, we can add it. And we'll also put the challenger score on.

That's an assignment for a bad baby to put the challenger score on the truffle cut. On our door, please. Do it. Why have you come? do you not know? It is but a shadow and a thought that you love. I cannot give you what you seek.

What today, Joe? Why not? Why not? Everyone chose a mortal life. And that is, obviously, as we've discussed before, a love story that is infinitely more prominent in the films than in the text. Professors always welcome. And Tolkien Cannon out there on the interwebs,

we know that the noodling over an Aragorn and Aowen future was on the professor's mind. Sure. Like it's just, it's totally within the bounds of reason. You might say I watch these films

and it is very clear to me that Aragorn does not feel this way about Aowen. And my reply to that is he did not seem interested in her fish stew, but I would like to go to another fandom for a moment

and quote him at Thrones and say, you should taste her fish pie. The professor is always welcome and so are very shay and Tyrion. We co-signed this thruple. Oh, yeah. But I want to clarify, this is movie version. Yes.

Because I am a Fair Mir girl, and I love Faramir, and they just sort of biffed that in the Peter Jackson films. But A1 in Fairmere is something that I very much support in the books, but they really just did not go for it in the movies the way that they should have. So Arwin, Aragon, and Aowen, I just want great things for them. I want Arwen, again, in a movie quote sort of way, say, if you want him, come and claim him. And then Aowin's like, I have no man. And then they all kiss.

Who says no? I choose a mortal thruple. There you go. I could just see the velvet and the throw pillows when you said that. All those shes longs in Riverdale aren't going to find. fuck themselves. So, you know, just like, there's things to be done. Exactly. Lord of the Rings. We can get kinky with like the necklace chain, you know, if everybody's in. Why not? Let's get creative. Why not? What do you have? And Aowin, unfortunately, is like,

maybe going to be like a little blip on the radar because Arwin and Aragorn are going to live a long, long time. And Aowen, not as long. This is definitely, that's, I think, part of why it feels in movie land like a like a fun bit of head cannon you know this is a it's a long life and this is a a a fun and passionate interlude it one's here for a good time not a long time in this triple and that's okay yeah yeah you know you're just trotting out on horseback for a ride and a fuck and then we all go about our lives why not next in our list of this is this is Joe isobal It's true. This is number eight.

And the fandom here is a bigger umbrella that we're just calling vamps because we got a couple nominations for people. And then I snuck one in myself. So this is a Sophia, Lauren, Joanna co-production under the umbrella of vampires. We need an umbrella because we cannot stand in the sun. It is Buffy, Spike and Angel from Buffy. That's mine obviously. Eric Northman, Suki Stackhouse and Bill Compton, Suki, from True Blood and Elena, Damon, and Stefan Salvatore from The Vampire Diaries. Now, listen, you're going to point out that one of those trios contains a pair of brothers.

And you're not wrong. But as I mentioned, a thruple doesn't mean everyone's fucking each other necessarily. But there is something, and maybe we'll expose this a bit more in the trip's course, there is something very undefed. undeniable, irresistible to these modern, sometimes trashy, sometimes more

highbrow, not really, vampire shows about two immortal beings falling head over heels for a girl who's like a teenager and there are hundreds of years old.

Let's just put that in a box and not deal with it. But she's, special. She's a special shiny chosen one. Be she a vampire slayer, be she a fairy, be she whatever. They're like, this is it. You're the one. And she has to choose. And usually one of the vampires is like darksided and usually one of the vampires is light-sided. And that's the formula, folks. But my question, and there is a great, an iconic and exceptional episode of True Blood where there's a fantasy sequence where they all fuck each other. And that's just like, that's what, that's what True Blood always at the same time.

Should have been. Yeah. True Blood, at HBO's summer guilty pleasure classic. And the fact that Bill, Bill is quite boring, but listen, those actors are married, so I support them. But like, Bill and Eric and Suki getting it all together in one episode. true blood, an important piece of television history. Any questions you have about vampires? I know this is not your most well-trodden path.

Any questions? This all sounds great. As you know, I have not seen Buffy the Vampire Slayer, much to your dismay and chagrin. No, no, no, no. But one day. Yeah. I do know how passionate you are about this. And so I was excited to hear you talk about it.

And I am convinced, even though I am not able to, really comment on the text or subtext. You make a, I think, irrefutable case that I am comfortable accepting on the spot. If you're going to fuck one vampire, why not fuck two? This is my question. If you're going to risk your life and your, like, you know, femoral artery just to fuck someone. Like, why not do too? And also, wait, pause.

Let's go back to Lord of the Rings really quickly. We forgot to do the alpha of the Lord of the Rings. Oh, yeah. Trio is your alpha there? I guess it's got to be Aragorn, right? It's either Aragorn or Arwen, I would say. It might be Arwen. It might be.

Though I think given that both Arwen and Aowen are so besotted with him. Yeah, but I feel like it's going to be Arwen's choice to open up the marriage to and then her to be like, welcome Aowen into the situation. Because Aragorn wouldn't, but Arwen's like, one. He would never. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. The alpha thing is a tough one for me. It is tough. It's not always clear. That's because, you know, and also, again, it is not in a healthy polyamous relationship, everyone has equal amount of power. Okay. In the vampire realm, I'm going to say Buffy is the alpha of the Buffy Spike Angel, a trio.

Okay. Suki is the alpha of the Bill Eric Suki trio But it's Damon Salvatore is the alpha of the Elena Stephan Damon trio which again involves two brothers I'm not suggesting these brothers should have sexed But listen they're vampires they're dead so one of the rules anyway once you're dead I would like to just say that even though I cannot comment on the canon in question in those scenarios.

I am a fan of vampire sex. You know, I've mentioned my enthusiasm for being human many times. The Aden sex scenes on being human always, always a thrill. Always a delight. So I'm glad we have this category in here and I look forward to talking about vampires

with you more next week. Number seven. A topical. A very topical. Very. Quite. But, It's mutants. It's mutant sex. We're here to talk about mutant sex.

Listen. We had a couple options here, and a runner-up was certainly the very topical Gambit, rogue, magneto, you know, combination. Still too painful. Yeah. Was preoccupied with a couple weeks ago. But we're going to go with the classic. We're going to go with Gene Gray, Scott Summers, and Logan, AKA Wolverine. This is our trio or our triad of mutants. My question for you, Mallory, is given that enticing combination, given the possibility of mutant sex, and given, like, Gene Gray's specific power set, how do you see this trio going? this thruple. In general,

a thruple seems thrilling, exciting, it's scintillating to consider, and also, to me, exhausting and unmanageable as like a matter of course. It just seems like a lot to navigate. And I think with these three characters, most of all,

maybe of all of the ones in our consideration set today, I have the least, I have the most confidence that they would return to Thruple status, like over and over again and the least confidence that it would be sustainable for long in any one of those bursts. Like, this is a, this is a thruple built on extreme passion, but it is it is combustible in

more than one way, I think. So we've been covering and watching X-Men 97. I was thinking of the little moment from a couple weeks ago where Logan says in episode five, I believe, you're Gene Gray. He's Scott Summers. Those are the rules you just forgot them for a second. And like, that's, I think, the foundational text of this Thruple is every now and then we got to forget that for a second. But because of their core dynamics, they will then be pulled back in to remembering whether it's Logan feeling insecure about his place in the thruple. Yeah. Or Gene and Scott being pulled back into their core dynamic. But like, hey,

spoiler's here for a second for X-Men 97, if we've already kind of been talking about it. about it, but if you don't want to hear more, hit the fast forward button once. Once Scott is fucking your clone. Yeah. And absolutely anything is on the table. And cheating on the astral plane? Yeah, especially that. Especially that.

So bring Logan on in. Why not at this point? Speaking of like fuckable beans, we should say. And this, our listener Sophia wrote in to say, that Gina Scott and Logan, to quote Sophia's email, just spent the Crocoen era of X-Men comics living in their enjoying rooms on the moon and canonically fucking up a storm. So it's my duty to put them first and foremost.

Despite finding Scott kind of bland, I've thought, why won't these three just sort it out in the bedroom since the 2000s movie? So the fact that they finally did will never stop being delightful. Yes, I've just binge-read the Crocoen era and screengrabbed all their most throupley scenes to show my friends when monologuing about it. So this is comics, it's not quite a thruple. My understanding is that in this era of the comics,

Scott and Gene are in an open relationship, and Scott, I believe, is fucking Emma Frost. And Gene is fucking Logan. But Scott and Logan are not fucking each other. And that is the arrangement that they have. But at any rate, leaving Emma, who I think has always been an interesting entry

into, like, who's the most fuckable mutant? the fact that these three have just been like, yeah, we can't. This is undeniable. We need to figure out a way to let off some of the pressure of this, the sexual tension between Gene and Logan. So why not open up the relationship, I think is really interesting. I think Gene Gray is the number one mutant you want to have sex with because the mind palace opportunities are endless, right? Yeah. It always makes me a little anxious.

but yeah, also boundless possibilities. So should be a great time for Logan. I'm excited for him. Given the Phoenix lurking inside of her, I'm going to name Gene the alpha of this particular dynamic. Without question. This was probably the easiest. Number six, back over to you, Mallory Rubin.

Let's hop into the TARDIS for some group sex. Let's talk about this nomination here comes from Lyndon. The doctor, Rose Tyler, and Jack Harkness, Captain Jack, are pansexual prince, as you'd like to refer to him on the Doctor Who rewatch slash first watch pods. Now, in the submission, it was nine or ten. So I don't know if you feel compelled to pick between nine or ten or just say, the doctor, Rose, and Jack. I think that this one, this was a very fun one to contemplate because every,

Captain Jack scene is just drenched in innuendo and invitation. The journey's end

season four sequence where Sarah Jane says so there's three of you and Rose says three doctors and Jack says, I can't tell you what I'm thinking right now is all we need to know. Jack is

no one has ever been more game for this than Captain Jack Harkness. It's a lock. And he has the exact kind of energy that I think Rose and the doctor need to opt in. And part of the joy, too, is like, they're in and out of each other's lives. So you're not bound by this, right?

This doesn't necessarily become, like, the defining reality of your existence. What happens? In the TARDIS clearly stays in the TARDIS. Exactly. Yeah. Every so often, Jack shows up on a planet in the TARDIS for an adventure. You all fuck each other.

And that's it. Then you go about your day. Who knows? When you'll see each other again. Wonderful. How do you feel about introducing? I know we were talking mainly about throuples. But if we take the question of 10, how do you feel about

adding the other 10 into the mix. Because that's another option is rows and the two tens, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Too much real shit to work through there, I think. Very fair. Once we're waiting. Keep it light. Keep a light. That's the Jack Arkness.

The most intense thing you have to confront in a thruple with Captain Jack is like the face of bow connection. There you go. And where it's all going. Yeah. If we bring in. If we bring in Bad Wolf Bay at all, it's too real. It's too intense.

Everybody shuts down emotionally. This isn't about shutting down. This is about opening up. In every way. In every way. Phrasing, language, etc. Who is your alpha in this dynamic? I think Jack.

Yeah. That makes sense. And I think Jack's delighted to be. Yeah. Any man who wears suspenders that well, I think, really, has a lot to offer. Okay, number five. Should we stay in space?

Yeah. Number five, this is a very, this was the hardest one to narrow down to one. And Mallory was very generous. Yeah. With the one we finally landed on. But before we get to the one we finally landed on, do you want to talk about in a vacuum your ideal Star Wars throuple?

Sure. If you had given me the choice to only talk about one thing, period, at all today, I would have said that in my dream scenario, I have the power somehow to bring one thing to the screen at some point in my life. And it's Obi-1, Seteen, and Ventriss tearing each other's clothes off. That would be my choice. So, of course, that would have been my Star Wars nominee. It was a nominee that we received and would like to say thank you. Thank you for all of the people out there who get it. I, as you know, care so deeply about Obi-Wan and Satin in that relationship. It's a beautiful and tragic love story. I also feel, and in no way does this diminish what I

hold in my heart for Satine and Obi-Wan that Obi-Wan adventurers needed to fuck at some point. It is something I just feel in my soul watching them flirt the energy and the sexual charisma between them is overwhelming. Oh, what a lovely sight to wake up to. Don't flatter yourself, Kenobi. You've never been much to look at. Come on. Have you seen him?

These two want to fuck each other. And they should, and Satin should be there too. I would also be happy to be involved. And that is my statement on the matter. Thank you for allowing me to say. So now you are welcome to talk about the actual. Star Wars entry for today. We'll do the other runner-up, which also involves

Obi-1, and this is one that Mallory is less inclined towards, but Obi-1 Canobi, Anakin Skywalker, and Padme, Amidallah. Your new thruple! Sand is rough. Gets everywhere, especially in a thruffle.

Mallory's objection here is she was like, what is the Obi-1 Anakin dynamic? Yeah. Are they? like brothers, is it more father-son? What I would, what I would posit to you is that that problem already exists inside this dynamic between Anakin and Padme. Like, he was a small chirp of a child when they met.

So, like, that ick is based in. She's, like, supposed to be canonically much younger than I think we moviegoers realize. I think the... The fact that this is obviously on Anakin's mind makes it a valid suggestion, right? Like, it is a preoccupation of his. It is a fear of his. It is one of the final tipping points for him. And so, of course, I understand why it is a nomination that we have received.

To be honest with you, in my ideal world, Anakin just, like, falls down a hole. And it's Pat May and Obi-Wan. Like, not animated, not Sky Guy, but, like, you know, live action Anakin falls down a hole. and then it's just Obi-Wan and Padma. Here's the problem. Falling down a hole in Star Wars, it's fine. You can get cut in half and fall down a hole. You can get electrocuted and fall down a hole.

It doesn't matter. If you come back with spider legs, what else happens to the lower half of you? So this is a mall-specific question. Is it all mechanical down there now? What's happening? Yeah, I think everything from the slice downward. Oh, I mean, I don't know.

Lots of possibilities, I guess. Hobbes and Dragons and Gmail.com, if you've ever thought about what happened, what's going on below the bell with our guy, Darth Mall. Okay, but the real intergalactic thruple that we are here to talk about today, no siblings involved. It is chiefly off the back of what happens in The Force Awakens. Finn and Poe and Ray, a modern classic, as Mallory wrote in our notes. It is. It absolutely is. And Oscar Isaac agrees.

Oh, yeah. Ray and Finn have this, like, very sweet burgeoning love story chemistry that just gets tossed in a trash can because Adam Driver enters the chat. And I, as a lover of The Last Jedi, like, I have no real notes about that. But to go back to the Force Awakens and that era, the Finn and Ray stuff is, you know, he's got this, like, clear crush on her. like this is clearly in the story, what they didn't budget for is the sheer sexual magnetism of Oscar Isaac who's just sort of like, my jacket looks better on you.

You keep it, my guy. Like, that is so true. Once we're trading leather jackets, we're shipping it. I mean, Finn and Poe is undeniable. And again, Oscar Isaac is happy to chat about this in interviews. My friend runs this incredible, like, geek apparel website, Elhofer Design. She goes to conventions.

Kathy Kennedy has worn her stuff, blah, blah. But she doesn't the license for everything. So everything is, like, named off brand. You know, there'll be like the dragon queen dress or something like that. She made a cardigan based off of a pose leather jacket that she called the boyfriend cardigan because that's just like what it is. That was incredible. I got it for a friend of mine.

He looked great in it. It was one of the best items she's ever made. But yeah, Finn and Poe and Ray. I mean, again, if the last, we love the last Jedi, we would never memory hold it. But like, if that movie and certainly The Rise of Skywalker didn't exist, this is like, this is the energy. This is the adventurous, boisterous, we are action heroes together. You've got the cocksure pilot. you've got the Jedi in training,

and you've got Finn who can also definitely do stuff and this may be force sensitive, question mark. That's great. I say we all cuddle up under that leather jacket on the sands of Jeku. My beloved BB8 can provide some a dulcet moon setting, moon setting beeps and boops.

And let's go to town. Everyone needs to hydrate. To the soft and gentle beeps and boops of Pbby 8. Let this throu consummate their energy. Alpha here, Po, right? Probably. They kind of all have a case. But yeah, probably.

Let's go from the stars to Westeros. Or Esos, actually, more specifically. Malory Rubin. What's number four? I'm going to try to contain myself for this one. This is actually probably the one I'm most excited. I'll see you in 20 minutes. We are here to discuss, as you knew we would be, Danny, Dario, and our first shared love, Joanna.

Mr. Wise. Jora Mormont. Jorah, Mormont. This is before we realized that there were a remarkable number of bearded characters and fandom that we were both deeply, passionately in love with. Jora was the, he was the first. He was the one who brought us together, and I believe now he can bring this Thruple together as well. This is co-signed by our beloved colleague and pal, Kate Hallowell, who first wrote about

this on The Ringer.com. What a great website in 2019. This was back in the final season of Game of Thrones, and there was a group post on the Ringer about the couples and throuples that people were. invested in in shipping at the time. And Kate wrote about Danny, Dario, and Jora and said that

quote, if anyone deserves two consorts, it's her. And that logic holds. Also, Danny and Dario have undeniable sexual chemistry. And also, Jora is a deeply important character to us and we want him to be happy and he is in love

with Danny. So let's talk about some of these things. Guy! Joanna, I would like to take I could see you rounding the corner as you said it. Okay. Yeah. Yes, I'm moving from Karth now to Yung Kai. And I ask you to recall one of the most painful moments in television history.

She didn't sweaty. Spattered. Just see it. Oh, my. The way his face falls. Here's the great news. Did it. Victory.

Running through the bullet points. Summing up the mission. and a Dario Naharis. The way that Jora just collapses. Collapsed to himself. Like a plan in a comfort. Devastating. Truly a devastating moment.

Have you ever seen the light go out in one man's eye? I have. You've seen that scene. This is, of course, that shot is like the probably most popular shot of Jora to pair with the friend zone meme that was so popular. during the Thrones days. When Dario and Jora were gallivanting about, trying to find Danny,

there's a great, great, great moment where, you know, Jorah needs a minute. It's a lot. And Dario says, you all right? Why don't you sit and catch your breath? Jora says he's fine.

And then Dario says, I don't think you could ride the dragon. This is not true. I have always been wounded and offended by this. The show had some fun with this idea later on when it came time to collectively hop on Dragonback. But we need go only mere moments into the future to the parting of the ways the gray scale reveal

and Jora's declaration of love to feel the depth of affection all around. When Danny says, Dora says to Danny, all I ever wanted was to serve you. Now, I think he has an ideal version of this in his mind. But when I hear that, all I ever wanted was to serve you, I think, my guy's down for whatever. A thruple? Why not?

We know Dario is down for whatever. Danny says to Dora, when I take the Seven Kingdoms, I need you by my side. Why not in bed with Dario on the other side? The last thing I will say here before we move on. Obviously, Danny's the alpha here. Yeah. Is that if anyone is like, man, there's just no way.

There's nothing there. We will, not for the first and not for the last time, refer you. If anyone out there is still unconvinced, we will refer you to Storm of Swartz. There's a kiss. Yeah. I will just say that book Jora and Danny,

like Not Danny is having a response to the kiss A canonical response Would you like to do a dramatic reading Melorman? Would you like me to do a dramatic reading?

Of course. Always. I've never not wanted you to do a dramatic reading. I mean, I don't think we need more evidence than the show obviously and you know, Ian Glenn is there

and what more do we need? My God. Ingram is just bringing a really different energy than the book Stora. Go! See! Tyrion Lannister was right.

I love you. I'll always love you. Sorry, I went back to the show there for a minute because it's just moved to tears by Jora, who we love. Sir Jora slid his arms around her. Oh, was all Danny had time to say as he pulled her close and pressed his lips down on hers. He smelled of sweat and salt and leather and the iron studs on his jerkin dug didn't dug into her house. Joanna receded from view on the zoo. Tell me.

dug into her naked breasts as he crushed her heart against him. If this is anybody's first exposure to the pros of one George R. Martin, welcome. The water is warm. People are usually fucking in it. The mast is fed pink. Oh, pink mask. It's always great to be back on the cinnamon wind.

I don't want it. All right. The passage goes on and on. I'll stop here. We've lingered here long enough, though I would like to linger here longer. and that is just the truth of it. Joanna, cared to comment. I'm steads of his leather jerkin pressed into her neck.

Oh, man, his beard is scratchy, she thought, but his mouth is sweet. Okay, you cannot ride the dragon. I could hear new Dario say this. But Yung Kai is original Dario. So which Dario are you imagining in this Ripple? Definitely new Dario. Thank you for asking. Important, important point of clarity.

Very important distinction. Okay. Great. I'm with it. I'm here for it. I mean, of course. Of course. The question is, do Dario and Jora have a relationship outside of Deneres?

Hmm. We see the two of them, you know, at the head of a column together. They're constantly choosing to ride side by side. Yeah. So you're bringing in a different head of a different column? I'm not mad about it. Writing front to back instead of side by side. Who knows?

Okay. Oh, boy. This is a real transition into this next one here. Number three. A chaste tale. A chaste tail. Yeah, it is. Yeah.

Number three. Slightly a slightly more chaste one here. We're heading to Hawkins, Joe. Yeah. Stranger things. These are still children, but like older children. So it's not as creepy. We're in the college years here.

I mean, Steve the Harrington is not actually in college, but we're in the college years for all of them. Steve Nancy Jonathan. Yeah. Nancy is the alpha here. This, by the way, okay, can I... Or is it Steve? No, it's not Steve. Yeah.

Steve is very, feeling very... Vulnerable. ...torn up about all of this. Always very vulnerable. In my journey through fandom and throuples, can I just say, you know the OTP, right? Like, one true pairing. O.T3 is how Thruppel. are tagged on like A.O3, fanfiction, whatever.

I was just going through making sure we had hit like the classics. We weren't missing any major. So I just put like OT3 in sort of bi popular, which just like helps me understand who are the most popular fandom throuples that people like to write about. Yeah. Even Nancy and Jonathan are so high up there. It's like a bunch of it, you know, like manga and anime people

that I don't know who they are. And then some emcee people that will talk about. and then Steve and Nancy and Jonathan and like our flag means death. Is anyone writing about Hopper and Joyce and the peanut butter smuggler or Murphy Bowman? Or is it all? Is it just all? I'm just genuinely curious now. Mary's not welcome.

No. And Steve. Okay. I mean, I feel like the peanut butter smuggler is always up for a good and inventive time. But that's fine. No. Okay. What I want to say about Steve and Nancy and Jonathan anything?

other than, you know, all three of them just have really been going through it. And we love, we do love the Nancy Jonathan relationship. And part of why I like this as a throuple is because, like, we don't want Nancy and Jonathan to be a part. We don't actually want that. But we are, our desire to see Nancy and Steve together is irrepressible. It's just, it's just, it just can't be. Like, when we get this original love triangle in season, one and Steve is positioned much more in the like, you know, shitty bully role or whatever.

We are trained as, you know, story lovers to root for Nancy and Jonathan's the painfully shy, a bit of a stalker with his camera, let's be honest. But like, you know, the pictures through the bedroom window. I still have some notes. Not great. But painfully shy, sweet, Nancy, you know, they interned as journalists together. Like, you know, whatever. I like that.

But more importantly, I want whatever Steve Harrington wants. And if Steve wants Nancy, then he can have Nancy. I think actually my more ideal were everyone's sexuality to align Thruple would be Robin, Steve, and Eddie Munson, where he's still alive, I think that would be. We are almost like not worthy of that as a people. What have we done to deserve that? Nothing. That's too much. So I don't know why A.O3 isn't full of Steve and Eddie and Robin fanfic, but if I have to settle for Steve and Nancy and Jonathan, I'm happy to.

Whatever Steve wants. That's the point. Whatever Steve wants he should get. Oh, man. Can't wait for stranger things to come back. Yeah, in 2026. I don't know. I'm not giving up on winter.

Is that, and this is no chance? Absolutely. No chance. No chance. No chance? Take you've ever had in your entire life. Really? When we saw the cast photo of them like a couple months ago and you're like later this year, no way.

I just had to, well, I had to try to get it in the high draft. I had to at least try. No way, man. 2025 at the earliest. But I wonder if it's going to be early 2026. I wouldn't be surprised. Half the cast is going to be in a retirement home man. They have so much, they have so much post-production on that show.

They have so much post-production on that show. How much time are we going to be spending in Vecna's held dimension is my question. That's going to determine how long it takes to make this show. Oh, man. All right. You want Vecna any, any thripples? Beckna and his yearning tendrils? A lot of possibilities with the yarning tendrils.

There's a lot you can do. Yeah. A lot you can do. Intriguing. Number two of this absolutely unhinged exercise. This is probably the one that people, other than what our number one is, I think this is probably the one that people

would have been most sure would appear on the list because we've actually talked about some versions of this recently across our Avatar The Last Airbender discussions. It is known here on the Haasavar that we ship Zutara. So we are deeply invested in, this is Ang, Katara, and Zuko the Struple. this nominee came from Jack.

And we're very invested, even though Katara and Ang wound up together in the Zucco-Katarra relationship that, frankly, we deserved and were deprived of. And that was palpably a thing we should have been moving toward in every scene they shared together. In every scene, they shared together from the near healing at the end of season two, all the tension in season three, the quest to find her mother's killer, like the love triangle

incorporation into the Amber Islands players fodder, all of it. It's just so, it is there for us and we are there for it. So I would say that our version of this thruple is more like

a way to get Zucco and Katara together finally and like Ang is welcome to watch. That is kind of my feeling on it. Is that also your feeling on this thruple or is Aang a more active participant in your ideal outcome here.

Here's what I think. Zuko has to run Fire Nation. That's just like a true fact of his life, right? Ang and Air Nomad, the Avatar has to like go around. So why I think is like Katara and Zuko co-run Fire Nation except occasionally Katara like goes off on adventures with Ang and teaches him what sex is. Teases him all the lessons that she's learned from her time with Zucco. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. The student will become a master. Who's the alpha? So, okay. I guess it's Katara, though. I would say I think there's a version of this where it's a more active shared experience where Zuko is the alpha because Zucco and Eng do have a very special relationship as well. They did dragon dance together. Maybe better scenario.

Zuka and Katara are still co-running Fire Nation. And each of them gets to go off with Eng when they need to like. great. You know, a little awesome steam. Yeah, as we know, it's canon. One of the most life-affirming and altering experiences you can have is like, everybody gets to go out to have an adventure with Suko. Yeah.

An adventure with Suko. Any other avatar? Thoughts and feelings? Any other throuples you wanted to throw out? You suggested Momo. Saka and the cactus juice. Yeah. Yeah.

Mom, yes. You fucked us all. And I believe this is our shared number one. we're going to the M. We're going to the MCU. Before we go to our actual number one, we're going to take a little side journey over to Disney Plus

into the multiverse to a television show that we quite enjoyed called Loki. And we are going to engage with the thruple that is Loki,

Mobius, and Sylvie. That's not our number one, to be clear. That's our like one A. What do you want to say about Loki, Mobius, and Sylvie? We don't even have to work hard to see how this could happen. Yeah. The depth of affection and devotion between them, what they all brought out in each other,

what they like awoke in each other, obviously the romantic relationship between Sylvie. and Loki is text. And one of the very enjoyable aspects of covering this show and talking about that relationship together is like the aspect of that that that is profound

and deep and poignant and then the aspect of that way. Again, it's in the text, right? Like, you narcissists, you fell for yourself. Like, there's an aspect of the Loki-Silvey relationship that is elevated masturbation.

And you must learn to make yourself happy before you're ready to let someone else make you happy, you know, or to make them happy. So this just feels like the next step. I like the idea of elevated masturbation.

It's like prestige of masturbation. Elevated horror. Elevated masturbation. Exactly. And I keep thinking about that great moment in the void when Mobius, you know, always, always, whispers to Sylvie, you're my favorite. And that's what we need. We need a little bit of that here.

This would be a great one. This would be a great thruffle. I just may wait here for a little bit. Let this thruple pass. Okay, now I'm going to weep. Thanks. Thanks. We had a lot of MSU emails.

And going back to that sort of like fan fiction search that I mentioned, a lot of Steve and Tony and Bruce, that's a really popular one. Stephen Tony is a really popular. I knew about the science bros. That's Tony and Bruce. I didn't know about what's called Stoney, which is Stephen Tony, I kind of did, but I didn't know how popular it was quite popular. So, like, that's a combination that people talk about a lot.

That's not what we're here to talk about. We're here to talk about Steve Rogers. And guess what? And then we're not going to talk about Steve Rogers for a little while. That's my promise for me to you. See, I mean. Steve Rogers, Bucky Barnes, and good old Peggy. as we mentioned in our coverage of Steve Rogers Hall of Fame podcast that we did last week, as we mentioned in Winter Soldier podcast, we did a couple weeks ago.

We don't know how to choose between Steve and Bucky and Steve and we shouldn't have to. And we shouldn't have. No one should have to. I think Peggy would be so super down with this. And here's what I think should have happened. Steve should have taken Bucky with him with the PIM particles. back in time. And they all should have lived in that beautiful craftsman house together.

Fighting crime but not interviewing with history. Trying to be okay with Hydro, interfering with Shield because I guess they can't stop it. But most importantly, what does that arm do? Let's find out together, you know? Thank you for asking. Yeah.

Some incredible, incredible possibilities with the Vibranium. I'm imagine the different settings on that thing. Oh, yeah. The custom experience. Wonderful. Do you think that as Steve, Peggy and Bucky are all fucking each other, Steve says, I'm with you till the end of the line as he's waiting for them to climax?

Right. Like he's holding back. He's restraining until they, they, the very generous and giving lover. Yeah. Uh-huh. Before we get started, does anyone want to get off? Oh, boy. He's going to be a gentle one, but I do think Steve is the alpha in this dynamic.

I think that is true. That has been our top 10 ranking of a fandom throuples, of the thin premise of the puddles of sweat of challengers. Before I leave you here today, I just want to say I have two added things to say, and then I'll see if Mallory has anything else to say. Honorable mention, did not make the list, but I do want to show. out the television series Black Sales that had an actual legit thruple inside of that series. You have not truly throupled until you have pirate throupled. So we talked about Black Sales a lot when we cover Percy Jackson. Tremendous show. Back in the zeitgeist because of the Netflix bump. I know. I'm excited for people to discover it. So if you've never watched Black

Sales, it's streaming on Netflix. I suggest you check it out. And then I didn't, I didn't do this earlier. we usually save wig watch for less. I'm going to zoom back to Challenger's for a second and say the wigs in Challenger's, especially given how often they had to be dripping with sweat. Yeah. Some of the finest I've ever seen. I truly think, especially Zendaya, like, knew what she was doing. And she's like, here's what we're going to do.

Since this hops through time and I need to have various hair links, it's got to look good. And that's what's going to happen. I don't know if Mike and Josh were wearing wigs. when they had the longer curlier hair of their youth or if they just grew their hair out for that or whatever, it couldn't really tell. But the Zendaya wigs. They all look great all the time.

Everyone looks great all the time is the point. Yes. There's a sequence when they first meet Zendaya's character again. Like no major spoilers or whatever, but she's like supposed to be 18. And she just has this like long, perfect mermaid hair. And no one has ever looked better in their life than Zendaya in that moment. So what do you think is a recent convert to sneaker culture about like this, this look for

Adidas? This was big. The Tashi sponsorship. Why on earth do you think I would convert to secret culture? Because you bought a pair of ultra boosts. Converse on goat. That's why. Why do you think you're not is the question?

I don't think you, like, why do you want to shape me in your image? Why do you want to make me a real fan of the sneaker head? I just love to share my passions with you. And that's really what this exercise today was about. I refuse. I refuse. Steve, do you have that clip, Josh O'Connor? I refuse to be blamed any longer for this grotesque misalliance.

I will not be drawn down your sneaker rabbit hole. It seems like a very expensive. That's fine. I'm honestly content with the o's. The opting into the O's is all I need. It's all I need. I'm buying all the way in. That has been the top ten throuples of fandom.

If you disagree, if you have some. notes, hobbits and dragons at gmail.com. We may do a volume two. The professor's always welcome here, and so our conversations about throuples. House the Dragon is coming back. If anything is begging for Thruple conversation. It's House of the Dragon.

Who's to say what's happening in the Acolyte other than Mani Justinto just being a guy, a regular guy, just doing a guy things, just doing a boy, just a boy and a guy in a world. We're really excited for what's coming in June. The boys, et cetera, et cetera. just a lot of opportunities for partner swapping and polyamory and polycules, etc. Again, we are not experts.

If we said anything that was wrong, Havasodragis at gmail.com, but we did this with open hearts, open minds, and open everything else. And we thank you. We thank Steve Alman for his production work on this episode. We thank Artina Ramgapal for his work on this episode. We think Jomea Dineran is always on the social, and especially when he corners Sean and Amanda and ask them how they feel about being absolutely trounce. by the Ring of Verse crew.

This has been House of Our. Back later this week. By we, I mean, Mallory, Ben will be back. I will not be here. Talk about Star Wars animation. We'll see you then. Bye!