How I AI - Claude Fable 5 review: what the new Mythos model gets right (and very wrong)
Episode Date: June 9, 2026Claude Fable 5 is the first Mythos-class intelligence model to be generally available, and I got early access to test it before launch. In this episode, I walk through what Anthropic is promising, wha...t actually stood out when I used it on real work, and where I think it fits in your AI stack.—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Introduction: Fable 5 is finally here(00:31) What Anthropic says about the model(05:14) Token-intensive by design(06:28) Safety classifiers and the new fallback concept(07:46) Is this or is this not Mythos?(08:30) New product launches: Managed Agents and more(09:20) Crushing benchmarks(09:55) What it’s actually like to use (the good and the bad)(11:40) Test 1: product graph spec(12:56) Test 2: designing a skills registry(14:04) Conservative on execution(14:43) Test 3: multi-agent orchestration(15:39) My takeaways—Tools referenced:• Claude Fable 5: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-5-mythos-5• Claude Managed Agents: https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/managed-agents/overview—Other reference:• SWBench Pro benchmark: https://www.swebench.com/—Where to find Claire Vo:ChatPRD: https://www.chatprd.ai/Website: https://clairevo.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/clairevo/X: https://x.com/clairevo—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email jordan@penname.co.
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It's here, the model, the myth, the legend.
Mythos from Anthropic has finally dropped.
Well, baby mythos.
We're calling it Babel 5, and this new model is crushing benchmarks,
but the question is, can it crush my backlog?
I got early access to the model,
and of course I have my own opinions on where it does really well,
where it needs a little work,
and the question on everyone's mind,
does it live up to the terrifying,
marketing hype. Let's get to it. Okay, let's talk about what Anthropic is telling us about this model,
and then we'll get into what I think about it. So this is Claude Fable 5, the first Mythos class
intelligence model to reach GA. Now, if you haven't been paying attention, Anthropic has been
marketing slash scaring slash warning us about the unbelievable capabilities of Mythos, and it is finally
here. Now, they had originally been rolling this out with a couple select companies. I got early
access to test what I thought of the model, but you have to know, this is not mythos, capital
M, big mythos. This is themy mythos. This is fable. And so it's going to have some guardrails on it,
in particular around cybersecurity exercises and biology exercises. Now, good news. Your girl's working
on PRDs. She's shipping SaaS. She's not working on biology quite yet, although give me a little time
and some time to experiment and maybe I'll get there. So this is really going to be focused on what the
everyday user with the everyday software engineer is going to think about when they're using this model,
although I did run into some things that I suspect are a result of the tuning and training of this
particular model to be extra safe. Now, quick, it's not cheap. It's $10 per input token and $50 per
output token. It's going to be a new tier above opus. And so if you're going to use this model,
you're going to pay the price. So what is Anthropics saying? Basically, it's a completely new model
class. So we had Sonnet, we had Opus, and now we have Mythos, the first of which is Fable 5. It's
completely state of the art. It is exceeding every benchmark they tested by a significant amount.
This 80% on SwayBedge Pro, you'll look at that compared to some of the more recent models that
have come out. Very, very good benchmark performance. And then they're saying it's really good
for long, complex tasks. Now, what are some things that earlier models couldn't do that they
are saying now that Fable 5 can do? It's very autonomous.
including running days long asynchronous tasks.
It's really an engineer's engineer.
And that's some of the downside I experienced with this model,
I'm going to show you a very specific example of where you don't want an engineer doing your work
with an engineer's point of view.
Proactive.
It's very good at vision, exceptionally good at vision.
This is a place where I actually really loved the model.
And you know me.
I'm pretty critical of models, but I did see a step ahead of vision.
So that's something we're going to dive into.
And then effort, it works hard.
it builds harder, it verifies more, it's built for ambitious work.
Now, guess what it also can do?
It can consume those tokens.
So Anthropica said it consumes rate limits and tokens at about 2x the rate of other models.
So again, this is a big boy model and it's going to consume tokens and some of the things that it's good at
and even some things that they have done in the harness seem like they're intentionally or not token consumers.
So we're going to keep an eye out on costs and eye out on a few.
efficiency when using this model. Again, talking about long running tasks, Fable 5 is supposed to be able
to run four days. So doing long running planning, being able to spin up subagents, and I show a little bit
about dynamic workflows, which are, you know, different architectures of subagents and holding
multi-day sessions. Now, I have done probably day, days long sessions with other models. I didn't
have Fable for many days. So I cannot verify that it ran for different.
days. I did get it to run, however, for several hours on some tasks that may or may not have
merited that several hour effort, but it definitely seems like it has both the hardest and the
intelligence capability to run for a very long time, if that's appropriate for your task.
Now, here's your pros and here's your cons. They explicitly say that Fable works like a season
engineer. Unfortunately, if you have worked with a season engineer, you know there's good to this
And you know there's bad to this.
So it is very complete in its investigation.
And it's definitely going to go search out all the corners.
It's definitely going to think about how it can be 120% sure that it's shipping the right thing.
But guess what?
That's not always in service of launching.
And that's honestly not always in service of building a great product.
So while you can give it a goal and it will be very autonomous and it will be very thorough,
honestly sometimes you want like a slightly less thorough engineer product manager talking even engineer
talking sometimes you want it to be a little bit dumber we'll talk about some of the prompting
techniques it says and when to use this model but it's just something to think about when you're
working with any high intelligence model is how much intelligence does the task actually take now as
I said before it is token intensive by design and I did most of my tasks on
extra high. And so it was like token burning on token burning. And so they say that high is probably
the sweet spot for most work. I used extra high just because I don't want anybody in the comment saying
Claire, you picked high for this task and it should have been extra high and it would have had a better
experience. I used extra high. I used all of the brains a fable. But again, it is very, very token
intensive. My question for any of these models, this is not an anthropic model question. This is not a
Fable question is, does this token intensity actually output the right results? And that's a place
where I've just not 100% sure. But again, as us humans in the loop, we're going to have to be
much more intelligent about where to put what model and where to use what reasoning and what effort
level to match what we're doing. And again, I think that the untrained of us will say, oh, well,
I have this Fable model. I should use it. It's better than anything. And honestly, I think,
I still think there's a place for good old sonnet.
I think there's a place for opus and I think there's a place for other models in the ecosystem.
Now, there are safeguards in this model.
And so this is one of the first things that Anthropic told me testing the model.
And this is one of the headlines that they're making in the release, which is there are specific classifiers in this model for cybersecurity, biology, chemistry, and distillation.
Basically, they don't want anybody doing bad stuff in those categories in particular.
with this very intelligent model. What's nice about how they've implemented this, however,
is they have this new fallback concept. And so if you get classified into one of these categories,
instead of saying like, do not pass go, you may no longer fable. It just falls you back to opus
48. This is also a capability in the API now where you can do this graceful fallback to
48 if you're using a mythos class model. They also have a 30-day retention policy.
use only to catch misuse and it's not used to train clod.
So while it's still not training clod, they do want to check the use of this model because
they have been and will forever be very cautious about us normies using their intelligent models.
And just, you know, for contacts, 95% of sessions on this model did not hit a fallback.
I don't believe I hit a fallback.
But again, I'm not doing anything in cybersecurity biology or chemistry at least yet.
Okay.
So this is the question. Is this or is this not Mythos? It is Mythos. Fable has the safeguards. Mythos does not. Fable,
all as Normies can have in general availability. Mythos is still restricted to these project
glasswing partners, some of these enterprise level partners that are really checking it against
cybersecurity use cases. I would suspect that at some point we get some access to a Fable 5 point, whatever,
or that the Project Glasswing class opens up.
But for now, we get Fable Project Glasswing,
or these pre-selected companies get Mythos,
but they are all fundamentally the same underlying model.
A couple of product things that are also launching today,
along with the Fable 5 model,
Claude Manage agents are going into public beta.
If you haven't paid attention,
this is Anthropics hosted harness, hosted sandbox,
for running long, running agentic work.
I am still trying to figure out what a good use case for cloud manage agents is.
I will get there.
But Fable ships out of the box in cloud manage agents.
There's also a new advisor strategy where you can use Fable 5 as a senior advisor and use cheaper
models as an execution layer.
A lot of people are doing this with Opus and Sonnet.
And so this is going to work today in the API and in Cloud Code and is a strategy you can
use.
And then as I mentioned, this Fallback API where you can put an optional parameter
on the messages API that allows you to continue to block requests by using 4.8 at Opus pricing.
Okay, as we said, crushing benchmarks, look at this, Fable 5 compared to Opus 48,
GPD 55, and Gemini 3.1 Pro, significant increase in SwayBench Pro benchmark, very far ahead of
these other models. And while I wasn't testing the most advanced use cases, I didn't find something
that technically it failed out.
So I think these benchmarks are really going to hold.
And these benchmarks have outperformed across the board.
So this is Anthropics' state of the art model.
Okay.
So enough about what they say.
Let's talk about what I say.
What is it actually like to use?
So I read Fable 5 on a bunch of different work.
And I want to give you my feedback on where I thought it did well,
where it needed a little bit of work, and where I was really surprised.
As I said before, it's really good at vision.
and where is it good at vision that really impressed me?
It's really good at document formatting.
So this is super simple.
But we've been doing these handwriting documents for my 7-year-old based on classic texts and classic poems.
And on the right is Opus 4A and on the left is Mythos 5.
And it looks so silly.
But I really do think Mythos 5 did a much better job of a second grade layout for a handwritten.
writing sheet. There's just like the right spacing. It's very clear to read. There's enough
white space. I think on the one on the right, it's just very dense. And even the lines themselves
are sort of hard to tell. Do you write above? Do you write below? So I do think that PDF formatting
documents, I tested this against a bunch of different models. Mythos 5 really did a good job. So very
simple eval for me, but a very, very good one. Now here's the problem, though. The writing is nearly
unreadable. So if you're thinking about mythos for pros, for spec writing, for PRDs,
unfortunately it's an engineer. And what's the problem with engineers? They just really get wrapped
around the axle on details. And this is a real struggle with these more intelligent frontier models
is they're like too smart. And so it's just very, very hard to parse what they're saying. And I'm
to show an example of this in actually ClaudeCode. So I have this concept of a product
graph that I'm working on for ChatPyRD. It's actually a fairly complex open source project.
And I had Fable 5 go through that and actually do like an adversarial review of my requirements
to try to figure out where there were internal consistencies in the logic. And it gave me this
markdown document that looks very long and intelligent. But you can actually be actually
go through it, it's just really hard to parse. It's like internal references. It's very detailed,
but not in a way where you can zoom out. There are these big blocks of paragraphs, like look at,
look at this. It is just really hard to see the forest for the trees in this particular model.
And I saw this sort of like over and over again working on it with specs is it was very complete,
but merely impersible. And that's a really.
challenge when working with these very, very high intelligence models. Again, I would actually suggest
pulling back to maybe a sonnet or opus model for specs and then looking at Fable as an orchestrator
of execution where that detail really matters, but you don't have to read it. The other thing that
shock, shock, shock me was how like actually legitimately terribly bad it was at design, or at least
a one-shot design. And so I asked Fable to, you.
design a skills registry and man alive did it do a very poor job. I mean, I'm not even talking
like AI slop bad is like fundamentally terrible design. Gray, black, red, simple outlines,
just really, really terrible. Now, the anthropic team suggested that I just needed to be a little
bit more detailed in my prompting. I've never had to do this before in, I would say, the last
year of models in terms of front end. But even when I prompted it, it was still just not very
impressive design. I think there's this real balance between design slop and specificity and
just shipping like terrible design. I'm not sure what about Fable 5 resulted in this. I'm going to have
to keep testing it as it rolls out today. But this was a real disappointment in terms of design.
So again, you might want to toss an opus in the mix instead of relying on Fable for design.
It's really conservative on execution.
So when I was trying to do that ambitious days long work, I took a spec and I said,
can you ship the V-0 of this, the MVP?
I said enough to that a customer could get value.
And the MVP, they just really took minimal to heart.
It was like very, very narrow, not actually that useful.
And I'm curious that this comes from some of the safeguards on this model.
And it's been a challenge I've seen since the kind of later opus models is they're not super
ambitious. And so again, you'll have to think about how to prompt this to get that long-running
outcome paired with the right product ambition. And then I really doubled down trying to test
these Claude Dynamic workflows and these sub-agent designs, trying to see if this would really
add value. And the multi-agent capability is definitely there. And I definitely had some successful
multi-agent runs kicked off in Fable. But I also ran into a lot of
of stalls and errors in using multi-agent orchestration. Now, I made the mistake. I walked away from
my laptop and came back to these sub-agents that had stalled after about three hours. And so like,
egg on my face. But I really want to see how technically the Claude Code model holds up to the
promise of multi-agent orchestration. I had some successes and some bugs. I think this is a
Claude code issue, not necessarily a model issue, although with this promise of long running
days-long prompts, you really got to deliver technically on the outcome.
So what's my takeaway? I would hand it hard problems, of course not cybersecurity, bio or chemistry
problems, but hard technical problems were being extremely detailed matters, long horizon work.
I would also hand it vision problems where you really want something to look good or you want it
parse PDFs or other documents. It's done exceptionally well there. I was actually really surprised.
I probably wouldn't hand it my front end work or I definitely wouldn't hand it my front end work.
And I definitely wouldn't hand it strategy or spec work. I think it overthinks things. I think
its pros is merely imparsable. And so maybe I'll test it again with effort level lower on sort
of pros and spec writing. But it wasn't it for that. That being said, I'm not a hater on this model.
I definitely not. It definitely has a place in your stack. I'm going to test it. If you want to learn more, definitely look up the prompting guide for Fable. It's going to probably repeat a lot of what I said. Hand it your hardest problems, what this model is good for and what it's not and how to get a good outcome. That being said, Mythos is here. I cannot wait to hear what you build, what you overbuild, and what you make ugly with this new model. Thanks for joining how I AI.
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