How I AI - Mastering Midjourney: How to create consistent, beautiful brand imagery without complex prompts | Jamey Gannon
Episode Date: March 9, 2026Jamey Gannon is an AI creative director who specializes in creating consistent, beautiful brand imagery using AI tools. In this episode, Jamey demonstrates her streamlined workflow for generating cohe...sive brand assets using Midjourney, Nano Banana, and other AI image tools. She walks through her process of creating mood boards, using style references, developing personalization codes, and strategically iterating to achieve a consistent aesthetic. Rather than relying on complex prompts, Jamey shows how visual references and strategic shortcuts can produce better results with less effort.What you’ll learn:How to create effective mood boards that communicate your desired aesthetic to AI image generation toolsWhy style references (SREFs) often produce more consistent results than general mood boards in MidjourneyA systematic approach to testing and refining your visual styleHow to use personalization codes in Midjourney to develop your own unique aesthetic preferencesTechniques for combining image references, style references, and minimal prompting to achieve consistent brand imageryA workflow for using Nano Banana to fix specific elements in Midjourney-generated images without extensive editingHow to package and deliver your brand imagery system to clients so they can continue generating consistent assets—Brought to you by:Vanta—Automate compliance and simplify securityLovable—Build apps by simply chatting with AI—In this episode, we cover:(00:00) Introduction to Jamey Gannon(02:31) Creating mood boards as the foundation for AI image generation(08:45) Using SREFs for better consistency(11:15) Test prompts for evaluating style consistency(12:33) The iterative process of creating and refining images(24:28) Combining techniques for consistent brand imagery(28:25) Scaling out your aesthetic across different subjects(35:48) Using Nano Banana for targeted image refinements(38:23) Creating realistic AI self-portraits for content(43:04) Building a visual reference library for inspiration(46:50) Troubleshooting techniques when AI isn’t cooperating—Tools referenced:• Midjourney: https://www.midjourney.com/• Nano Banana: https://gemini.google/overview/image-generation/• Flora: https://flora.ai/• Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/• Cosmos: https://www.cosmos.so/—Other reference:• Style references (SREFs) in Midjourney: https://docs.midjourney.com/hc/en-us/articles/32180011136653-Style-Reference—Where to find Jamey Gannon:Website: https://www.brand-sprints.com/linksLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jameygannon/X: https://x.com/jameygannonInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jameygannonMaven Course (get 10% off with this link): https://bit.ly/4b18RfM—Where to find Claire Vo:ChatPRD: https://www.chatprd.ai/Website: https://clairevo.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/clairevo/X: https://x.com/clairevo—Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email jordan@penname.co.
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It all comes down to having a very tight and manicured process, which thankfully I have spent my 10
gazillion hours in Mid Journey and Nana Banana and everything to figure out exactly what that is.
So you're not pulling your hair out prompting all day.
One of the things I like about the mood board is it's a visual language to explain to Mid Journey
what you're trying to do.
The picture is worth a thousand words.
Like literally a picture to an LLM is worth a thousand words.
Mentioning like Vogue or high fashion or even like a different artist name is a great web.
to tell the model a ton of stuff without actually having to tell a ton of stuff.
In the past, brand and creative directors or agencies will give you these photos and be like,
cool, call us and re-up when you want more photos.
What I love is that you're like, look, you're going to value me for all this upfront work that I'm going to do
to define the space, give you these codes, really give you reference images.
And then now you can go do this for yourself.
It's just like a very different model of providing service.
and I think it creates a really positive collaboration between the client and the creative director.
Welcome to How IAI.
I'm Claire Vaux, product leader and AI obsessive here on a mission to help you build better with these new tools.
Today we have an aesthetic episode with Jamie Gannon, who is an AI creative director.
It is going to show us how to create consistent, beautiful, and unique brand assets using Mid Journey,
nanobanana, Flora, and more.
This is a workflow we haven't seen yet and goes into incredible depth on how to create awesome brand assets that you can use to uplevel all of your designs.
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Jamie, thanks for joining How IAI.
I am having you on the show for a very selfish reason,
which is I think I'm the only pink AI brand in all of SaaS.
And when I saw your work, I was like, oh my God, I need this lady to teach me
how to create brand imagery that is beautiful and fun and girly and whatever magic she has I need.
So talk to me about how we can get amazing images like what you're showing us right now.
I think consistently is the most important part because I can get a one-off image that's this great,
but I can't get this brand portfolio.
So you've got to tell me your sorcery.
Yeah.
I made it all comes down to like unfortunately having a very tight and manicured process,
which thankfully I have spent my 10 gazillion hours in Mid-Jurney and Banana and everything to figure out he's happily what that is so you're not pulling your hair out prompting all day.
And yeah, I would love to show you.
Great. So where do we start? When you teach people how to do this, you know, where, what's step one?
So first thing that I always do is I'm going to start in either Pinterest or Cosmos and I'm going to create a mood board that is the general.
vibe of what I want. So for this exercise, I wanted to have like a very pink and cute,
but still kind of like not super girly, very internet kind of coded aesthetic. I like especially
with AI doing like juxtaposition. I think that's really fun. So we have like an orange with piercing.
We have like a fluorescent fruit, dog on a computer, things where they shouldn't be. We have like a grungy
unicorn um so that this is like a really cool aesthetic to start with and i typically start
there's two ways that i usually start i will either go in with a mood board in mid-journey and you can
basically just copy and paste your images in or you can start by adding them as estrafs as you can see here
so s-raps basically are style references and they kind of do exactly what they sound like it just
tells the journey to take the overall style and coloring and camera treatment and vibe, if you will,
and it like tells it to apply that.
Now, one of the first prompts that I tried to create this aesthetic is I use that Voodboard that
you saw that I made.
And in this part of my process and the create part of my process, I'm just trying to get
information.
I'm trying to figure out like what, what are the images telling AI?
what is my prompting telling AI, what's the mood board telling AI?
And I just want to generate very fast.
So I'm not very precious when I'm doing these prompts.
Like right here, I just have a beautiful female model.
I have astronaut.
You can see I'm using that mood board here.
But if we remember the original mood board and those final images that you guys have a sneak
peek of, we can see that we're like very far off from where we want to be.
And I think we're a lot of people that are starting to use A8
I get kind of tripped up is like if you've ever just like raw dogged generated something in like
mid journey or chaty bt like this might be like great to you and like some of these images
standalone are really cool to me but if we're working for like a client or we're trying to be
consistent with the brand style we need to be like really really honest with ourselves on like does this
actually look like that vibe and truthfully it does not so I think that there's going to be a better
approach to get things going one thing I want to call out what if you could go go back is I
I think one of the things people lack when they're working with more of these truly creative,
generative AI tools is they lack language.
And so one of the things I like about the mood board is it's a visual language to explain
to mid-jurney what you're trying to do, what I like about the style references, which we've
done a couple episodes that have referenced style references in terms of mid-journey.
We've done one with Zach, the creative and design lead at Gamma.
We've done one where we were looking at style refs for more photography styles.
So these are just alternative languages to tell mid-jurney or another tool, something specific
about a visual aesthetic, which I feel like a lot of people just aren't trained.
If you're not trained as a designer, if you're not trained as a photographer, you don't have.
And so I love this.
A picture is worth a thousand words.
Like literally a picture to an LLM is worth a thousand words.
The other thing that I want to do if you go to your mood board versus what was generated, one of the things I want to call out about this where you're comparing the mood board to the images is somebody who has been a designer and has been around photographers.
I bet you can see this and say, okay, like the saturation and the contrast on these photos is not as high as they are in the generated images.
there's this like washed out vibe on some of the photography on the generated images.
And so one of the tricks that I wonder if people might think about is you can actually
upload this to like a like a chat, GPT or Claude.
And you could say, explain to me why the photos don't match the mood board.
And so, you know, you are probably an expert at this and have language to figure out why it
doesn't match.
But if for folks that are trying to teach themselves language, that's just one.
I think is really useful is throw this in and say, hey, chat, GBT, explain to me why these top
four images aren't in the same style as the bottom. And that can sort of give you a seed,
seed to start. I try and avoid prompting at all costs in my process. But like for this example,
we're going to go like super, super simple with like using SROPs and mood boards. But yeah,
if I'm in one of these, like, I'm doing some insane editorial work for clients that needs to be
consistent across like 100 images and like foolproof to like,
consumer eye, that's when like getting really into the details, especially as models like
narrow banana, can be super helpful. Great. Okay. So this doesn't match. What do we do? Basically,
what I kind of glean from this is like the mood board is not doing its job. It's not communicating
the vibe properly. This is something that happens a lot with majority mood boards. There's not a ton of
documentation from mid journey on exactly how it works. But as creatives, you can tell like the more
kind of consistent a mood board is, let's say it's like five images of like fuzzy 3D cats,
you're more likely to get an image of like a fuzzy whatever you prompt. When we're doing more
generalized vibe stuff like this, majority can tend to average things out with the mood board.
And I find that using S-Refs as the mood board instead essentially can give much better results.
So this was sort of the next step in my process. I wanted to try the S-R-Refs and see if that made it better.
And you can tell we're definitely getting better contrast.
We're getting a little bit more kind of aesthetic and edgy, a little bit more of that like 20, 25 aesthetic that we want.
But it's pulling really, really green for me.
So what I ended up doing is I just removed that green eye S-Ruff.
This is something that comes with intuition.
You know, I've been using Middraining for like three years.
So I kind of can like understand like where, I don't know, it feels like sorcery to me.
but I can understand like where the LLM is pulling certain things.
And I knew that if I removed this green, it would solve them my problems.
So I did.
And as you can see, we're starting to get a little bit more neutral in tone.
We're also like a little bit more zoomed out too, especially with like the people photos.
So now I know I am on the right direction.
Can I ask a question real quick?
When you say I'm using the SREFs, where are you getting those from your mood board or how do you actually
deciding what the S-Refs are just for people who are less familiar with Mid-Journey.
I'm just using literally the ones that were on that original Pinterest mood board.
So you can just copy and paste that image and put it in there.
And then as you copy and paste things in, it'll save in a library for you, like, forever.
So if I wanted to bring that green one back in to keep trying stuff, it's like already there for me.
Got it.
So instead of the S-RF codes that a lot of people, and we've talked about in the past,
you're using literally the UI to just drag in images as style references.
And that for you sometimes gets you better results than just using the general mood board process.
Yeah.
Cool.
And then I have one more question, which is, do you have some go-to, like, test prompts?
Like, I love the astronaut as a prompt because there's a lot of ways you could generate an astronaut.
Do you have some, like, go-toes that you run through when you're doing a mood board or does it really depend on your client and
you're working on. Yeah, I would say I love doing like ethereal female model for some reason.
I do like I do that a lot. Yeah, this is like a crazy silver one that I was doing. It tends to just like
give sort of like a more elevated vibe than just regular model. I think I do cats a lot because
there's just a lot of like texture to work with. The other thing I would say is that there's probably
a lot of training data of cat pictures on the internet.
So majority could probably be a pretty good job with the cat.
Yeah.
Running to, I feel like I do that a lot.
Oh God, this is like my first generation.
It's not crazy.
That scrolled all the way down there.
But yeah, I'll do running a lot or like runner.
Yeah, anything with like, like, astronauts fun too.
Anything that's like specific enough to kind of like give you the vibe.
I'd say like vibe. It's like kind of non-so.
Broad enough that those different styles kind of apply.
Okay. So, so you've used these style references. You're getting a little closer. What's the next step?
Yeah. So I consider this part of my like create step. And again, the goal is just to like get some like information.
Take like, this should take like 10 or 15 minutes to start the create process. And then what I'm going to do next is I'm going to move on to iterating.
And that's what we're going to start like getting a little bit more specific with our process.
maybe slightly more technical, and then starting to combine more styles to get like your own unique
style and get bunder consistency.
So what I'm going to do particularly in this process is I'm going to start to bring in some
personalization codes and other mood boards.
So what ended up helping me get these results is my personalization code that I call late
2025 aesthetic.
Now personalization codes, again, it's kind of like a little bit of mystery how it works exactly
under the hood.
But when you're creating a personalization code, but you're just going to put you through this
like endless flop matrix of images that you're either going to vote one or two or skip.
And basically you're just telling it what you like.
And you can have like as many profiles as you want.
So for like this profile in particular, I was trying to think, I was trying to rate images that were of a 2025 aesthetic.
So like more iPhone style.
And we can see here.
You'd pick that one.
Yeah.
Or I skip a lot.
That's another thing when I'm giving like advice to people.
people on personalization codes, it's like there's a lot out there on, you know, like,
Mitch Reney says, like, don't skip that much, but some people are like skip as much as possible.
Some people like skip a medium amount.
I tend to skip like a medium amount and only pick things that I would like if I generated it.
But I do find there's kind of like style bleeding.
So, for example, let's say I like the quality and the colors of this image.
If I like a bunch of images that look like this, I might get a heavily influenced style that like
wants to be painted or wants to be like this like vintage or renaissance whatever aesthetic.
So that's a bit to consider as you're going through this.
One thing I want to call out for folks that is a little bit of a side of this particular flow,
which is when you're building an AI tool yourself, I have not seen this like this or that
personalization flow in a lot of AI tools.
And I think it's such a good way to like fine tune whatever you're going to provide.
to your end user.
And so a lot of times we get these like end AB tests and like a chat GPT prompt.
But this is so interesting to kind of put this up front and say, okay, let's spend five minutes
telling me what you like.
Then we can be more confident that when you have a downstream experience in my AI tool,
it's going to look great.
Okay.
And you can create as many.
I've never, again, I have not used mood boards or personalized.
I'm just like yolo up in the main chat.
So, and you can create as many of these as you want.
Yeah.
to use. Cool.
Yeah. Unfortunately, you can't go in and like edit them the same way that you can with mood boards,
which is why you're going to be good at like naming.
I'm trying to understand like what you were doing six months ago when you spent two hours ranking images.
Um, but I have my own crazy system.
That just a quick brief on like what personation codes are.
So what I started to do, let me go back to these like other images.
I just felt like these could use more of my own style.
and I felt that they were a little bit over stylized.
Like, I do enjoy the pink, but I was curious to see if, like, maybe we can get some, like, other influences in there.
So by adding my personalization code, I was able to just get, like, more of a depth, I would say.
Also, because I wanted it to be, like, very crisp and, like, modern, you know, you start to see, like, better skin.
That one to me looks, like, very a good match for something.
of your earlier ones. That one's the one that stands out to me. I mean, it's kind of, it's,
nuanced, but I'm liking where this is going now. Hold on. And I know it's just you and me and little
astronauts in the middle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you are combining some of your style refs and this like
personalization model on top of each other. You're getting way closer to what you want in terms of
iteration. So how do we take this to the next step? Yeah. So I want to show you guys some like of the other
mid-journey techniques and ways, again, to, like, start prompting and kind of, like, up in
the ante on, like, what we're making. So as you can see here, these prompts are no longer just,
like, women or astronaut. We're actually starting to give some, like, aesthetic thought. So one prompt,
I actually found this on, like, the Explore page a couple weeks ago. But it's Day's Editorial
Photo Shoot. So, Dazed is, like, this really hip magazine, if you're not familiar. So doing stuff
like that, like mentioning, like, Vogue or high fashion or even, like, a different artist name is, again,
a great way, kind of in the same line of like a picture's worth a thousand words, to tell the model a ton of stuff without actually having to tell a ton of stuff.
So with like a day's editorial is like a really famous like ASAP rocky cover, it's like super gritty, high contrast, all these words that like are really hard to find even if you are like a professional photographer.
But when you just say day's editorial, depending on how like famous the publication is, majority is going to know what you're talking about or you know Vogue especially.
it's going to know kind of like the level of the highlights and okay we're going to be doing fashion stuff so i love doing that same thing with the word editorial in this case i say a woman a woman in her mid-20s deep and thought up-close macro photo so not the most crazy prompt i think everybody knows when a macro photo is up close is not like you know center frame zoomed in it's very human language that i'm using um so what i did for this prompt is i wanted it to really have the vibe of this original s-ref we have here
I wanted to make sure it was like the same composition. So what I did is I used an image reference.
Image references are kind of tricky because definitionally they just structure your composition.
But a lot of the times like the structure of an image and the composition kind of is the style.
So I kind of don't like to separate style references and image references.
If you have a woman posing like really sexually and you use that as an image prompt,
that stylistically is going to influence a lot of what's happening in your image.
it's going to immediately be more editorial or sensual, etc.
But anyway, I use this as an image reference because I want that profile.
But obviously, as you can tell, we're getting immediately.
Which I don't hate some of these, but my intention was more of like a thinking photo.
So what I did is I literally just zoomed in like in the mid journey UI.
I cropped it.
And then I just like dragged it back in.
And then I ran the prompt again.
And then we got something very similar.
to what we were working with here, especially in terms of like image quality, the colors.
For better or worse, it's also kind of like mimicking her like bone structure,
especially this one. You can see like we have like these contours. So image references will give you
a lot in terms of style. One thing I want to call out that I've noticed in two year flows is on the,
we're getting too much green. There was just such a compelling element in that green eyeshadow
photo, which was like half of the eye was just very green. It was clearly the most. The most,
obvious thing about the photo. And with this image, the most obvious thing about the photo is she's
blowing a bubble of gum. And so what I like is in both of those, you're like, just boot the thing
that is so obvious and so overwhelming. And you can either do that by kicking out the image or you can do
that by cropping out the part of the image that is pulling the rest of the generations down. So that's a
really clever technique. And I love that you're just like, I'm just going to screenshot and drag it over. I'm not
going to like try to prompt it to say like remove the bubble gum or whatever yeah oh my god you will spend
all day in mid journey you know even if you're using like something you can do is like the no feature
you can say no bubble gum um you know you can try and like say like lips are showing sometimes it'll
work most the time it won't if you really want to get specific you could take this in a nana banana
and say like remove her bubble gum but i don't think it's gonna get well that's what i was gonna say
I know we're going to get to nanobanana in a minute, but then also if you move it to
Nana Banana, you are going to wait like 45 minutes for the photo to come back and like waste
a bunch of credits and stuff that you just don't need, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's another thing too.
Like doing all this S-Ref and this like the profile codes, I don't have to prompt like 2025 aesthetic, you know, like model-esque.
Like it already knows that I'm going to have like a very conventionally attractive blonde woman because I gave.
I gave it a conventionally attractive blonde woman or vice versa. I don't have to type in the colors
and the grading every time. I don't have to do those horrible JSON prompts that no one can use.
So this is like the laziest way ever to do prompting. Okay, let's go into some like more
specifically prompting my archedemesis. So one thing I wanted to do, again, I like the juxtaposition
of like the images on the original moorboard. I thought it might be fun to have like a deer in a New York
city apartment kind of like bringing like the forest into the city and that can be cute. I got these images like
they're definitely on par in terms of like general style but I was kind of missing like the New York aspect
of it. So instead of like going and maybe finding like a New York City SRAF or like finding an image
of an apartment putting it as an image reference which potentially could have worked, this is one time that I
do actually do some prompting. So all I said was like New York skyline can be seen.
in the window behind it. So again, not doing anything super crazy with the language. I'm literally just
saying what I want to see. Another example, I thought the pink couch was a little bit too fantastical.
So instead, I just said on a matte black other couch. And now we're starting to get, we know it's in New York.
It's a little bit more kind of like realistic, I guess. A couple other things I tried was I said at night.
I think kind of give me at night, maybe sunset vibes. And then one.
The craziest I'll ever get is I have a list.
This is included in my course of like all these different cameras.
So I have like DSLR.
I have mirror lists.
I have digital.
I have film as kind of like quick shortcuts.
Because that's really hard to remember all of them and the aperture and stuff.
I barely know what aperture means.
So sometimes when I just want to try changing up the vibe or make things more realistic,
make them have like a more 90s aesthetic, I'll just paste in like a camera that mimics that.
So the Sony RX100, I think I probably generated this with like chat chutea.
I'm assuming that this is a 90s digital camera.
And this is kind of like what I would consider the final image.
So we know maybe the legs seem to be fixed.
But we know it's in New York.
We can see it's in like a high rise.
We have that couch.
It's a deer.
Oh, another thing to know what the prompt is like saying luxury New York City apartment.
Instead of saying on the fourth floor of a high rise in a new post-war New York City.
apartment, you just say luxury. Because like everybody knows and the alum knows or not alum,
the AI knows. Luxury is going to be like a big metal thing super high up and rich people live
on the top. So that one word, luxury just gives us everything that we need to know about the scene,
which is very fun. What is great about this particular prompt is it reminds me of what Ravi in an
earlier episode did talking about Mid Journey for generating images again. And he's like, you need the
subject and you need the setting and you need the style. And so you have the subject, which is the
deer. You have the setting, which is this luxury apartment at night. And you have the style. And he did a
very similar thing, which is like cameras are cheat codes for styling. And again, what I appreciate
what you're doing and we love to hear on how AI is everybody just wants to be lazier with their
prompting. No one. I mean, if you go to the explore page on mid-jury and you look through people's
prompts like people need a job man like this is too long and so I love the idea you're just trying
to find shortcuts for yourself to make these shorter and shorter and shorter but still get the same
quality because you're generating a lot a lot of images oh yeah oh yeah like sometimes like thousands
a day depending on what I'm doing if I'm lucky I like nail things really fast like this aesthetic
I happen to get like very quickly um whole point of it being 30 minutes but yeah if you're trying to do
something that needs like a lot of different aspects. Like I was doing a stock photo project recently.
I'm doing like nature stuff. I'm doing people stuff. I'm doing skin. So like in this case,
like I can't really have just like one mood board because there's a lot of different things that we
need to do in terms of treatment. So like being able to get like super like what's prompt I have here.
Like CMYK highlights for me has been a big one that I've been using deep blacks, high contrast. And then we
have just a really powerful S-RF, which actually came from my.
a previous mid-journey generation I did that day. And then we get all this like cool stuff. I think,
yeah, the prompt's experiencing music. So we're starting to see like ears and like, you know,
maybe body sensations. That's another tip too is like when you're in especially the create phase,
maybe even in the ring phase they kind of blend together. Sometimes I'll literally, if I'm doing like a
startup deck or something like a VC deck, sometimes I'll literally just like paste in the sentence and just like
see what it gives me. Like the full sentence. Like this is our business model. Just to get me thinking,
just get the model thinking. Same thing. I'll just do like financial markets. Really vague stuff.
Midjurney is like very poetic, I would say. You can like write little poems to it and it'll actually give you
some. It'll it'll do what you want it to do. Like this is experiencing music to me. You know what I mean?
You feel like the vibrations through your body versus, you know, if you were to describe this image,
it's going to send like a whole bunch of nonsense. Even worse. Even worse if you do it in like,
Gemini or something asked it to give you, you're just never going to be able to get this,
which is why I love Mid Journey so much because it just feels like an extension of your, of yourself, basically.
Every time I see Mid Journey, I have to tell people, you know, now I'm this host of this AI podcast,
I get to see a lot of tools and I do a lot of things every day. And Mid Journey was the first
tool that just switched my mind about what was possible with AI. It really is an inspiration
tool. It's fun. It's accessible to not just people like you that are building a business off of this,
but my kids love Mid Journey. It's such a creative space. And I feel like it's one of the more,
you know, dare I say it, like soulful AI experiences. And so I love the idea of just getting out
of like the tactical and practical prompting of like, I want this thing in this camera,
blah, blah, blah, blah. And just playing in a space with it to see if it can inspire,
inspire things for you.
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Okay, so just to recap really quickly on our mid-journey journey, we have done mood boards.
we have used those mood boards to kind of create some and get a sense of what's working well with the
mood boards or not. We've pulled in those mood boards via style references. We've also pulled in
specific images as image references. You've shown us how to go from like the most generic
astronaut prompt to slightly more specific but still pretty lazy, dear New York City luxury
prompt. Now you're starting to get stuff that you want. How do you kind of like package this up and
and scale it out. I'll basically just keep going with this same S-Ref stat and just continue to generate
images across, you know, the subject matter. So for like this one, you know, I'm thinking about AI
bubbles. I'm thinking about talking about technology. I'm thinking about talking about culture.
So I literally just prompted the AI bubble using the same prompt. But as you can see,
we're getting into the dreaded like five-finger thing. So in this case, I'll hit very subtle or very
strong and it'll help me like come up with a couple more generations of that aesthetic. So that's one
technique I'll use kind of like fight those. I will also go and I'll like steal prompts or get
inspiration for prompts from the explore page, especially when I'm generating like,
usually large kind of like stock photo sets of images. So like here's like an edgy man. I don't
have any edgy man photos yet. I thought the basketballs could be a cool motif in this aesthetic.
So then I kind of like pick apart those prompts and I use them here.
And then eventually I get to kind of like what we saw at the beginning, all these images that I'm very, very happy with.
And I'll move on to sort of reinforcing my prompts, if need me, and editing images.
So one thing that I always try, especially once I have like the exact outputs that I want already, I'll go ahead and I'll make another mood board again.
So you can literally just add from your gallery.
You can just click.
So I selected.
I think this is about like 30 images that I liked. And then what you can do is you can use this again. So what should we prompt? Do you like turtle and the sea? I was thinking turtle. This is weird. You're thinking turtle? We're floating through the journey together. I was like maybe she'll do like a turtle. Yeah. Very funny. So this is like one again kind of back to the beginning. We're going to try the mood board see if it works, if doesn't. The good.
thing is we already know this S-Ref stuff works. Something else that I was trying, I'll take that
new mood board with the images, and then I'll try with a different mood board that I have. So this
one's called real skin. This is just what I'm trying to make like really realistic images of
skin or of models. Obviously, it influences a little bit of like what they look like too. So I will
use both mood boards at the time. I might just say model. And then we're able to kind of like play
with using most aesthetics.
Now, I will say,
so these are generated with the mood board,
definitely, like, closer
than, like, if we hadn't used it,
but I still think the S-R-R-F is going to, like, be supreme here.
Yeah, so what I'll do is I'll just take that,
this mood board here,
and I'll click that, run the same prompt again,
but using the S-RF and using the mood board,
and we'll see what to give this.
Yeah, so same for this,
like, closer to what we want,
but like not as like stylistically consistent as these, which sometimes depending on what you're making, like, in my opinion, like all these images are great, but like over time it might start to look a little bit flat or like too much pink.
So like weaving in a couple images that are like not the exact same style can also be good to as long as you have this kind of like through line.
So like good example here is like this turtle, our mood board and our S-Refs is like not super optimal.
for animals. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Yeah, it's way more optimized for like editorial stuff. So what I might do here, I do have like a nature moonboard that I have. Adventure Corps. And I never delete my mood boards. So I'll just like keep them around. And just in case. Yeah, we'll see what this gives us using the S-Refs. I don't see it. You're getting a sexy lady. Naturally. That is one of the downsides of MidGernie is you're going to get a lot of sexy ladies.
Yeah. So again, cool, not too realistic. So this might be a part of the process where we kind of go back to square one in a sense and think like, okay, maybe we need to find reference photos of vintage National Geographic that kind of have this like print aesthetic, but it's of animals to give the journey a little bit better information to work with.
What I want to say is I love this process of you're just like finding the right to.
or three things to mix in mid-journey. And sometimes it's a style reference and a prompt.
Sometimes it's a prompt and a mood board. Sometimes it's a mood board and image reference.
You know, and so you can just combine all these things and ultimately iterate to a package
that you want to send to clients. Yeah. And then I'll just deliver this usually in Figma.
The only thing I've mid-jurney, they don't have any sort of like sharing. I think I've literally
seen designers. Like if they're on a big enough project, they will like literally create a mid-jorney account,
just for that.
And then what I usually do,
I'll literally just paste in
in Figma what that like final prompt is.
So the most important stuff is like the profiles
that you're using for this one.
I happen to go like very crazy with the profiles.
Stylization if necessary.
And then I just say like these are the reference photos.
So for like all of these images that you see here,
I think like 100% of them,
if not like 90% of them,
regenerated with like this exact setup right here.
So I just give the clients this.
I'll give them a set of images.
Also, these images are going to be like in context.
But yeah, it's still kind of a wild west.
What I think is really cool about this and the reason why you're leaning into it I really appreciate is, you know, in the past,
and we've talked about this a little bit in our episode with Zach at Gamma, who got a very similar package like this from their brand team is in the past brand and creative directors or agencies would like give you.
you these photos and be like, cool, call us and re-up when you want more photos. And what I love is
that you're like, look, I put in all this, you're going to value me for all this upfront work that I'm
to define the space, give you these codes, like really give you reference images. And then now you can go
do this for yourself. And if you want to evolve the brand or you're not quite getting what you want,
great, come back to me and I can give you another package that we can go forward. But it's just like
a very different model of providing service. And you know, and you're just like a very different model of providing service.
And I think it creates a really positive collaboration between the client and the creative director.
I know sometimes I'm kicking myself and like, gosh, I probably should just not get it to some and just continue charging them.
But I'm kind of allergic to retainers.
I like doing this beginning process so much that I don't want my old clients to bother me.
I just want to keep making new stuff.
Well, I love it.
And I'm sure people are going to see this.
And you might have a few more for new client.
Okay.
So you showed us kind of end to end how we get through these packages.
What are just a couple other workflows that you find yourself using?
I guess to continue on with this one, I can show some that I already have done.
So for some of the images in Mid Journey, I'm sure you have all seen the terrible hands,
oftentimes too, when you're doing kind of like more vintage aesthetics,
if it ever can give you an Apple logo, it might give you like some weird old computer.
So this is the thing I do a lot of the time.
Even just for my personal stuff, I post on X, I'll take my Mid Journey images and I'll take them into
Flora or Higgsfield sometimes and I'll just use Nano Banana as Photoshop.
Nano Banana literally is just Photoshop.
That's exactly how you should think of it.
You're just able to speak to Photoshop essentially for most people.
So what I have here is this image that I really like that we generated it, but I want to
upscale it so I get more texture in her shirt and stuff.
And then I want this to be like a real computer.
Nano Banana does her car a little bit more prompting than Midgerie, but it's much more
I don't want to say forgiving. It's much less complicated, like if you're a beginner in some ways, depending on what side of the line you stand on, whether you're more technical or more artistic. But anyway, I just said replace the computer she's typing on a 2026 midnight block MacBook Pro. So NANNA Banana is like a reasoning model. So it like actually knows what things are. So you don't have to give it a reference photo all the time, especially for stuff that's in like the public mind sphere.
I also usually mention, like, don't change or anything else.
I say keep the position and the size of the computer exactly the same.
And then just because I've done this so many times, I know sometimes that no banana might, you know, change the angle slightly.
Yeah, zoom in and zoom out.
I say exactly what it's seeing.
So, like, only the left side.
And the keyboard is visible.
And yeah, and then if I were to down on this photo, it's going to be like 4,000 by 4,000 versus like 800 by 800.
Kept the style pretty much exactly the same.
We just slaughtered in like a real computer.
So it would be relevant to like use now on social media.
I'm just going to behind the scenes at Howie AI, we use a very similar process to upscale screen caps from the podcast for our YouTube thumbnails.
And so, you know, I like make make these faces and then we want to clip them for the podcast, but just screencapping from the video is really low resolution.
And so we use a very similar prompt to upscale and improve.
improve the lighting on our photos and then we drop those into our thumbnails.
Oh, I got to show you.
You don't actually have to take thumbnails anymore.
Oh.
Hey, show me.
Live.
Live demo.
Have you been seeing my like X articles?
No.
Show me.
Detour.
So this is a really like kind of for us, all these like notes and stuff.
So my profile photo is AI.
I think I got quite into attention for doing that.
I think I ended up making in Higgsville at some point.
But basically what I do is I'll take a bunch of selfies of me that are like more realistic looking.
Because sometimes like, you know, you'll take the best selfie and like it doesn't look like you at all.
Also like show my teeth.
I don't have like perfectly straight teeth.
I'll take a couple reference photos and then I can just make me do whatever I want.
I love it.
This was another one.
I had a mid-jorney photo that was this and I wanted her to be annoyed.
I kind of already had this process in my head.
I knew I wanted a photo of me in this vibe but angry.
So I took this photo, made her angry, and then I replaced my face, which like me on my best day, this 100% looks like me.
I have like multiple reference photos to make sure it's like actually getting my vibe.
And then from there, I'm able to, you know, I was thinking about like an anti-agency post.
I think I just ended up using this photo.
This was one.
Took me a couple tries.
This is where again, like reference photos kind of really come in.
And sometimes, especially with Nana Banana, sometimes you just got a little.
like write that prompt, you know, like with the actual camera angles with the background.
But I ended up just finding these on Pinterest, I believe, of like the aesthetic reference
and the actual pose reference. And then this was for my article on AI legal stuff.
What else have I done? This is one recently. Funny enough, I could not get it to give me
extra fingers, which is hilarious because there were years of my life where I was trying to do
the opposite. So I was like 15 minutes I was able to get it to give me like AI fingers. That was a
recent article I did too. Again, we're like using S-Refs. This one didn't actually kind of like carry
through, but in earlier references it did. So I just want to call it for people who are listening,
not watching because I'm making a face, which is do you basically dragged in a bunch of like
realistic but still my face, which is really hard as somebody who's trying to generate images of
a realistic, but still my face, selfies. And then.
has used Flora to generate a bunch of mix and match remixed versions for articles and
thumbnails.
Y'all, my YouTube thumbnails are about to get real good.
I'm so excited.
This is very, very helpful.
And if I could throw back to probably three, two or three years ago, so it had to be
three years ago, one of the first things that I did was back in the day when you actually
didn't have these beautiful UIs is I fine tune a model directly on my phone.
face that I could call it like a it was like a light I forget what it was called yeah it's a
laura I think yeah yeah so I I fine tuned it on my face and then I generated a bunch a bunch of
images and it was so useful to have the specific one and now we're all spoiled we can just do this in
this UI and I never want to see this Chad Steve job ever again but I love the idea of dragging these
two notes together into into an image yeah people people
struggle out with it. It's hard to get to nail it. I think if I have like a really kind of like
strange face, I have like big eyes and stuff that like just latches on to me really well. Like I have
an Asian boyfriend and it just like refuses. Like every generation I make of him is just like
generic Asian guy. We can do the aside of like the bias of what goes into these training
training set. I mean, we can get a lot of conventional as you said, conventionally attractive blonde
women. We can generate all day, all night because they're all over the internet.
internet. Fingers cross. Every athlete, if you want an athlete in mid journey, it's going to be a very
large black man. It's going to be a very strong, beautiful black man. Oh my God. You can not get a white.
You can't, you can not get a white athlete in French. I mean, this is what's really interesting is
as you start to play with these models, you really start to understand they are trained on the
internet. And I was mentioning recently in some like chit chat about, um, Malt Book, which is where all
the open claw lobsters are together. And people are like, why are they weird? And I was like,
They're weird because it's fake Reddit trained on Reddit data and people on Reddit are weird.
And so I think one of the things you have to know about using these models is like where is the training data come from?
And therefore, what's it going to generate for you and what is it?
And the more you explore it, the more you more you hit those edges.
Jamie, I love all this.
This is all super useful.
I'm going to be able to go put this into practice literally today because we're working on a thumbnail.
Yeah, I'll give you prompts.
So let's let's skip over to lightning round.
and then I will get you out to generating another thousand images.
So my first question is, where do you go for inspiration?
I think one of the things that you sort of like pass through is you're like,
oh, if you know this magazine or that editorial style, that camera.
And I feel like people aren't cultivating their visual taste and language enough.
So what are some of your, you know, other than Pinterest,
what are some of your sources where you're continually improving your language
and your aesthetic taste through exposure to other things?
Yeah, one thing that I recommend to everyone is to start a list on Twitter.
There's tons of like basically Tumblr accounts still to this day that post like really aesthetic images.
So like some of these are like this account sort of like pink glitter.
So she posts a lot of like 2000 stuff.
So that's really great to use for Mid Journey.
Fashion accounts.
A lot of fashion accounts.
So I have like a good Twitter list of like really aesthetic photos.
Like this is obviously great if you again.
want more sexy ladies. So that's what I do. Also, Cosmos, of course, is superb. So let's do, like,
The Real Model here. One of your favorite images. Yeah. So obviously, this is just, like, a treasure trove of S-Drafts,
especially for, like, specific moods and vibes. I feel like, as a designer, I still, as much as I love Cosmos for, like,
branding stuff, like, logos and, like, website inspiration, I still use Pinterest a ton as, like, my home base.
But I will still use Cosmos for like art direction things.
The great thing about both of these is like Pinterest has a plugin.
So you can literally save from any page, especially like again, if you're on like X, you can go save to Pinterest.
Cosmos, I believe it has the same thing, but I don't have it turned on right now.
So that's what I do.
And then anytime I'm like shopping online, again, X, Instagram, something I teach in my course as well is a daily taste practice.
So just like get really on top of saving and archiving stuff.
My mood boards and Pinterest are actually shockingly simple because I realized if I had too many,
I was like getting kind of like decision fatigue, which is why my design inspiration board is
7,000 pins.
It's probably time to like switch that up.
But I have like, I don't know, what is this?
Like 20 mood boards.
So like instead of having like ethereal model mood board with like 10 images, I just have like one
that's like S-Ref.
And anytime I see anything on Pinterest that I would like love to bring in to my journey one day, I just save it.
And then when I need inspiration for like any project, even like client projects, like I'm doing a sock brand soon.
So I have a lot of running stuff.
I just save it all here.
And then it's really easy for me to go through and just like copy and paste into mood boards.
As you can see here, like these are images that I've saved.
I don't know what the hell I was looking at.
You were looking at that.
It's like shells.
and it seems like very similar.
It was like a website for like technical 3D scans,
but this is like a grain of rice or something.
But it was sick.
So I like save this.
And then I really need someone to do this for me.
But I get like millions of views on Pinterest a month now
because every time I see something and I save it,
like images I was already going to save anyway.
Like this is just from like high fashion Twitter.
I just saved it and it has like 200,000 impressions.
So not only this, this is a kind of like source of.
inspiration for you. It could actually be a source of business for you because you're sharing out
and making resources useful to people. Jamie, my last question I have to ask you ask everybody,
which is, you know, you have seemed to, your prompting technique is keep it dead simple. We also
talked a little bit before the show about how you don't love to prompt a lot and you're not like,
you know, you don't want to spend a bunch of time in quad, but if AI is not giving you what we want,
if we're getting the ugly stuff here, what's your prompting or personal?
technique to just get it going in the right direction, whether it's images or text, are you mean?
Firstly, take a break, always.
Like, you're never going to be able to, like, see properly if you're kind of, like, in it.
So, like, sleeping on it or just, like, walking away.
And then sometimes they come back and I just, like, do-j-do.
New S-R-F, different prompt, like, grab this reference, use this camera, and then it immediately
works.
So I would say walking away.
And then part of my process to...
is just like during that walk away, when you come back, be like, okay, what is actually the problem?
Like for some of these generations, I'm like, it's just too busy. It's too mid-journey.
I'm using like 18 s-rafts, like, this is just not going to work.
So I'm going to like take a step back. I'm going to read it the mood board.
And I'm going to figure out what exactly from these images is important.
And it's like, all right, I keep getting this like stupid red color.
I'm going to take out this red color.
Like even though I love this image and I would love for, I would love for it to like come through.
It's not giving me what I want.
majority is not listening to me. So again, like, I think I talked about this in the beginning,
like brutal honesty on like what's going on and trying to like not, I don't know,
make AI work the way you want to work and actually understanding how it works in general.
But I think time away is probably, I love it. Time away and seeing things from the AI's
point of view. Yeah. Well, Jamie, this was great. How can we find you and where can we be helpful?
Yeah. So I spend all my time on X. So, uh, actually.
at Jamie Gannon or TechBimbo is my name. And yeah, I have an AI course coming out. It's called
the AI Creative Director. It's on Maven. You can find that on my X or my website as well.
So if you are interested in like really deep diving into this and getting live coaching from me
and hearing more by by yapping on AI, I would highly recommend you do it. It's meant to be able to
make you create consistent client level work like I showed today.
So join the course. Awesome. We'll link to that in the show notes. Well, Jamie, thank you so much for sharing this. And I'm going to go dive into Mid Journey. Awesome. Cool. Thanks, Claire. Thanks so much for watching. If you enjoyed this show, please like and subscribe here on YouTube or even better, leave us a comment with your thoughts. You can also find this podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Please consider leaving us a rating and review, which will help others find the show.
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