How To Do Everything - Hollywood's Mommy Problems
Episode Date: December 4, 2024On today's archive episode, when one listener wonders how TV shows get a hold of actors' childhood photos, Mike and Ian ring up a Hollywood mom. Plus, one listener needs help keeping his Velcro bag qu...iet, so we call in the military.You can email your burning questions to howto@npr.org.How To Do Everything is available without sponsor messages for supporters of Wait Wait Don't Tell Me+, who also get bonus episodes of Wait Wait...Don't Tell Me! featuring exclusive games, behind-the-scenes content, and more. Sign up and support NPR at plus.npr.org.How To Do Everything is hosted by Mike Danforth and Ian Chillag. It is produced by Heena Srivastava. Technical direction from Lorna White.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
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Oh, well the other day I was taking a study break
and I was just sitting and watching some kind of TV show.
I don't even remember what it was.
And the characters happened to be looking through an old baby
book and looking through pictures of presumably
the characters when they were little.
And I was just wondering, well,
where did they get these pictures from?
And were they actually photoshopped?
Or are these actually the actors' pictures as kids?
Or what is the whole background behind making pictures
in movies and TVs?
It's fun to think about a director needing to call
George Clooney's mom to get his elementary school photos.
That makes sense, right?
I mean, George Clooney, he was a kid once.
He probably did kid stuff, played T-ball.
Handsome T-ball.
And then if they can't find pictures,
do they use like maybe their stunt doubles
when they were kids?
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Well, this is an interesting question.
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Oh, really? Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.
I think we have somebody who can help you with this question. She's on the line with us now.
Carla, can you introduce yourself for us?
Oh, I'm Carla Danes, and I'm the mom of Claire Danes and her brother Asa. On the off chance you don't know who she's talking about,
Carla is Carla Danes, mother of Claire Danes,
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Anyway, back to the conversation.
And I've lived in Santa Monica for almost 20 years
and we came out here for Claire to do My So-Called Life.
So we're guessing that when a show or a movie
needs those photos that you would be a source of that.
Has that ever happened?
Yeah, no, oh God, yeah, they come straight to us
and we have to, well we used to rummage through each time
all the pictures
Now we're organized and we haven't kind of in one place
Because you know a lot of them have family our family photos everybody, you know, it's not just Claire bear. So
We had to kind of get out the Claire ones
What they do is they just shoot them again. And everybody's been very, very, very conscientious and careful.
Nobody has ever lost a picture.
And they send them back.
Well, I wonder when you see them in one of her shows
or movies, like take Homeland, for instance,
you're seeing these photos, which, you know,
were part of your family photos, but now they're part of the history of a character yeah yeah
is that strange well you know we're artists and we're kind of used to taking
parts of yourself and it's only part of yourself but it is a shock on sets, you know, as part of a set. It's like, oh, oh,
there's Claire. There is a pole, but that's kind of par for the course. That's what
actors do, they're always giving away part of themselves.
That must be strange though, right, to see your family photos if we're thinking
of Homeland. So there's the character
that your daughter is playing, and then there's the photo in the background or wherever, that's
your daughter, Claire.
Claire Yeah, yeah. Well, there's one in Homeland where she has a permanent and she's standing in
front of the piano, the rented piano, and so all kinds of thoughts come back about the lady who
taught her piano and yeah so I have a whole history that has absolutely
nothing to do with with Carrie but like I say it's not hard to separate it's not
hard for me to separate who's who she'll always be our daughter. Does Claire
have I mean I think we all have awkward phases and we have photos of our past
that we're embarrassed of. Does she have veto power in what you submit to a show? There's really
nothing embarrassing. Yeah. Is that true? Come on. There's no kids on fur rugs or anything with no clothes on, you know.
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You're welcome.
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Hey Alexander, what can we help you with?
Well, I'm starting school in a few weeks
and to accommodate all of my books,
I'm carrying around a giant bag with me.
And it's wonderful, it does everything I needed to do but it does have this velcro strap on it
and sometimes I'll arrive to class a little bit late and I'll have to open my bag to get some
books out and it is kind of loud so I'm just wondering what the quietest way I can employ
to open up a velcro bag would be. Do you have it with you now? I do. Well let's let's hear it. Okay. So that was me just opening it up
regularly. I thought a way to make it a little bit quieter to muffle the noise
would be to open it up slowly and that doesn't seem to work either. Yeah just extends the noise doesn't it? Let's hear it let's hear that
right up against the phone as well. Sure. Yeah that's way worse. Yeah. I thought it might help a little bit but no it just seems to kind of amplify the sound there.
Alright we're gonna we're gonna see if we can help you out Alexander. Great
thank you both so much. Well I think we have somebody who can help you
Alexander it's David Aseta he's at the US Army Natick Soldier Research
Development and Engineering Center in Massachusetts. So David to Alexander's
question we figure soldiers could could use silent velcro has the army ever thought about this
The army has in fact thought about this because we did recognize that that was you know a problem
so we we did look into that and
Unfortunately, we did not get the kind of results that would have necessitated a change in the way that we would
that would have necessitated a change in the way that we would use those fastening systems. So you mean you were attempting to find a quieter Velcro?
Yes, and I think this would be a good place to bring in David Quirom, who is one of our
textile technologists who worked on the development of the silent hook and loop closure system.
All right. Hello. Good morning. Dave Quirom here. Hey there, David. on this the development of the silent hook and loop closure system alright
hello morning to acquire here
either davis
you know we've looked at uh...
hook and loop
uh... to see if we could siloed in the past
was that uh... two thousand
two thousand four
and uh... we did we had
they've had luck with making the hook and loop
quiet
by itself by pulling it, but once
you attach it to a fabric basically, the noise returns because you're further amplifying
it through the back of the fabric.
We could edit this interview the way we normally do, where we try and make it sound like there
aren't edits.
We could also just do bad edits and cover them up with the sound of Velcro.
So we can just stitch everything together?
Yes.
With Velcro.
Or hook and loop.
Can I ask, were there any specific incidents that inspired this?
Were there any soldiers out there who were confronted with having to open a large Velcro
strap and it made too much noise and somehow compromised their position?
Well, I don't have any specific incidents where the soldier had problems in the field.
It was just, I think at some point it was brought up as an issue and we might have thought
about that.
This is just one of the things that we're looking to always improve items that we needed
to look at that.
Is it possible that it was just a general
and he was embarrassed when he had to open up his bag
and it made a loud Velcro noise?
Did you know that Velcro was invented by a Swiss guy
who in 1941, he went on a walk in the woods with his dog and he was
fascinated by all the burrs from the plants that got stuck on his pants and
on the dog and he looked closely at how they got stuck and came up with Velcro
and he went home and made it it took eight years was his name Velcro? No. Velcro is actually a hybrid of the words velvet and crochet.
Why? Was it made with velvet?
No, but it feels velvety and looks crochet-y maybe?
It doesn't.
Steve, our other textile technologist who's done a lot of research into this,
could probably provide some more insight to how much noise it actually makes because
we did study this and used sound meters to record how loud the separation of the hook
and pile or hook and loop fastening systems were when you opened them.
Let me put Steve on the phone.
Hello.
Hey, Steve.
Hey.
But before I get going, I just want to say we got other closure systems plus we use zippers a lot, metal and plastic, snap
fasteners, metal and plastic, the hook and loop and also the hook and eye, buttons,
a lot of buttons. Did you know that some astronauts put a little bit of Velcro inside their helmet
to have something to scratch their nose against in space?
Oh really?
It's true.
That's interesting, because you can't, if your nose itches in space, you can't take your helmet off because you'll die.
Either way, your itch is gone.
Yeah, it's kind of like a nuclear option, I guess.
I did witness, um, Silent Hook and around uh... nineteen eighty six was from velcro
uh... really
i did witness it
what it was is uh... from what i recall
it's a it's a sample of um...
hook tape woven on scrim with holes
held in midair
and uh... when he separated it was about it
ten inch piece
virtually silent
you just hear a little
just a little tearing if you put your right up next to it
so what problem and yet the problem
when you put it on a table
then the noise comes back
so if you saw that because so did on a piece of fabric
for uh... dress shirt
combat uniform,
the noise would come back.
So it's just futile.
It's just, you can't achieve it.
Well, it sounds like for Alexander,
our listener who has this problem with his bag,
if he was willing to just himself deal with
a little more cost, some added weight of the dampening, and then he would...
Yeah, he wouldn't like that. Yeah, I tell you. Okay. No, it's not a good concept at all. I don't know.
If he could find a way, I guess, to suspend his bag in midair so it wasn't reverberating.
No, but if it's sewn on, that's what I'm saying. If it's sewn on to a piece of fabric,
the noise is going to come back. Yeah. It's a real butt.
It's suspended midair.
It's not attached to anything.
You've got to be attached to something.
Did you know that when they were doing the first surgery with an artificial heart, they
held together the heart with Velcro?
Huh.
Well, if you think about it, kids who can't tie their shoes will just get Velcro laces. So if you're a surgeon who's not real good with a
knife, just use Velcro. Yep. Oh did you want to know the noise? Sure. I did find out, we did
that 2004 report, we found out that the decibel level of hook and loop is possibly around 90 decibels. It's in between
a lawnmower at three feet away and a food blender which is 80 decibels about three feet
away. So it's in between those two. But the thing about the hook and loop is that it's quick and easy.
If I heard a lawnmower going for half an hour,
it would drive me crazy.
But you're not going to hear this in hook and loop.
It's just one little noise.
So maybe what Alexander should do
is whenever he needs to open his bag, just make a smoothie,
and that'll drown out the sound.
Or just go somewhere else, open up the bag,
and walk into a meeting.
Yeah. OK. Thanks a meeting. Yeah.
Okay.
Thanks, Steve.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, that does it for this week's show.
What we learned today, Mike.
I learned that the military still hasn't figured out
how to make silent Velcro, despite all
the other advances that we have, like space technology, hovercrafts that they have.
Still, silent Velcro is hanging them up.
You hear about like the Manhattan Project, where a thousand scientists working to accomplish this goal. The fact that somewhere on some secret base in New Mexico,
there was a Velcro Manhattan Project, and they, after months of trying, they gave up.
They said, this simply cannot be done.
Yeah, I love that. I love that contrast.
Whereas the Manhattan Project ends with a test where
they blow up a bomb in a desert somewhere and it's enormous. And the
Velcro project the ending of that is actually louder than the atomic bomb.
Yeah there they are shoot them. How to Do Everything is produced by Candice Mattel
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You can send us your questions.
Send them to us at howto at npr.org.
Our website is howtodoeverything.org. I'm Ian.
And I'm Mike. Thanks.
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