How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett - From Dull to Dynamic: How Passion and Authenticity Make You Magnetic to Women, Featuring John R. Miles
Episode Date: December 7, 2024Does your life lack excitement and passion? Do you worry that women find you boring—or worse, dull? A passionless life can sabotage your dating success, leaving women to gravitate to men with more e...xciting stories to tell. (Picture your date saying, “Wait, your only hobby is playing video games? Cool, cool... well, I should go now.” Yikes.) Women crave men who live with passion and purpose. In this episode of “How to Get a Girlfriend,” Connell sits down with bestselling author John R. Miles, host of the top-rated “Passion Struck” podcast, to explore how finding your passions can transform your love life and bring you more fulfillment as a man.Here’s what you’ll learn in this episode:2:30 The Life-Changing Power of Facing Your Fear12:05 Why Self-Doubt is Your True Enemy—and How to Build Self-Worth17:32 How to Get Unstuck and Start Living a Passionate Life20:21 The Secret to Turning Powerful New Behaviors into Daily Habits21:03 How to Talk to Women with Passion on Dates—and Why They Love It28:15 How John’s Improv Comedy Experience Helped Him Defeat Fear33:53 The Healing Power of Gratitude: Lessons from Losing a Loved One40:47 How to Show a Woman You’re Dating that She Truly Matters42:22 The Right Way to Talk to Women About Your Career46:52 A Fun Improv Game You Can Play to Get Women LaughingListen now and take your love life from dull to dynamic—because you want to talk to women about much more than Minecraft.TO LEARN MORE ABOUT JOHN AND HIS COACHING:www.johnrmiles.com/TO GET JOHN’S BESTSELLING BOOK ‘PASSION STRUCK’:https://www.amazon.com/Passion-Struck-Powerful-Principles-Intentional-ebook/dp/B0CGS248NR/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1707604358&sr=1-1TO LISTEN TO JOHN’S TOP-RATED PODCAST:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/passion-struck-with-john-r-miles/id1553279283TO HIRE JOHN AS A KEYNOTE SPEAKER:www.harrywalker.com/speakers/john-r-milesWATCH JOHN’S INSPIRING YOUTUBE CHANNEL:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW7cQNjZTEAFOR A FREE STRATEGY CALL WITH CONNELL TO LEARN HOW TO HAVE GREAT FIRST DATES:http://www.datingtransformation.com/contactTO GET FREE ACCESS TO “THE FLIRTY 30,” CHARMING QUESTIONS TO ASK WOMEN ON DATES, ON THE APPS, AND WHEN YOU APPROACH:http://www.datingtransformation.com/FLIRTY30WANT A FREE COPY OF CONNELL’S NO. 1 AMAZON BESTSELLING BOOK, “DATING SUCKS BUT YOU DON’T”? EMAIL CONNELL AND WRITE “FREE BOOK” IN THE SUBJECT LINE AND YOU’LL GET IT INSTANTLY:Connell@datingtransformation.comQuotes"Treat every practice like a race; overcome the fear of the starting line through preparation." - John R. Miles"Convey your self-value and power with confidence; it's the superpower that strengthens every relationship." - John R. Miles
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What that taught me was that so oftentimes we fear the unknown and we don't put ourselves
out there to go after what we want. Welcome back to the How to Get a Girlfriend podcast.
I'm your host, dating coach and author, Conal Barrett.
I'm here to help you confidently flirt with women and find a great romantic partner.
And of course, do this with authenticity.
No games, no weird pickup moves.
This is about being your best true self.
And I have a very special guest for this episode.
This episode is all about how to live a life of passion,
how that can make you more fulfilled,
and also make you more attractive to your future girlfriend and your next date, because
I can speak from experience here, women are very attracted to a man who has a lot of passion
in his life.
My guest today is a best-selling author.
His name is John R. Miles, a former U.S. Navy officer, a Fortune 50 executive, and host of a great
podcast called Passion Struck, which has millions of downloads and is one of the top 100 podcasts
on Apple. He helps people live passion-driven lives. He has a great new book out. It's excellent.
I've been listening to it on Audible. It's called Passion Struck, 12 Powerful Principles to Unlock
Your Purpose and Ignite Your Most
Intentional Life. You can get it on Amazon, on Audible, and you can also get it in the show
notes here. I'm going to link to the Kindle version here in our show notes. John, welcome
to the How to Get a Girlfriend podcast. Hey, Connell. Thank you so much for having me.
Such an honor to be on your show. My pleasure. And I'd love to start with a quote from your book.
Whenever I have an author on, I love to read back something that resonated with me.
And at the end of your first chapter, I'm listening to it yesterday at the gym, and you say,
quote, fear, I'm sorry, let me rephrase that. You say, quote, will fear arise with sharpened blades ready to
attack? Absolutely. While it's normal to be afraid, even when we feel ready, when we face our fears
with passion, perseverance, and intentionality, we will see that there really wasn't much to fear.
I love that. Can you share a little bit more about the power of facing fear and then understanding that usually there's nothing to be afraid of?
Yeah, you know, part of that quote actually came from me studying Hilary Swank.
And it's interesting when you look back at her career.
And I had originally meant to focus more on her in the book.
I talk about her a few times throughout it.
But her life, people don't really know the backstory that before she made it big in Boys Don't Cry,
for which she only was paid like $3,500,
she lived for a very long time out of a minivan of sorts, just trying to do odd ends.
And what that taught me was that so oftentimes we fear the unknown and we don't put ourselves
out there to go after what we want. And she's a great, I think, example of someone
who stepped into her sharp edges,
the sharpness of that fear,
and utilized it to go after what she truly wanted.
And then when she had her opportunity,
she went for broke on it,
and it transformed not only her life,
but the lives of millions now who have watched her in different movies.
So I think when it comes to fear, we tend to be our own visionary arsonists in our own life.
Meaning we arson the very things that we want to build. And it's that fear, just like an arsonist, that fuels
this, I guess, overwhelming self-belief system that we're not good enough,
imposter syndrome, whatever you might want to call it, but we can't attain the things that
we're setting out in life to achieve.
And so this whole book that I wrote is really about how do you break down those barriers with a formula that I've come up with to let go of that fear so that you can pursue
those things that instill the most desire, fulfillment, whatever you want to call it,
hope in where you want your life to be in the future.
Okay. In a minute, I'm going to ask you to share what that formula is in your book,
Passion Struck. First, I want to ask you if there are any memories from your past,
moments when fear arose with sharpened blades. It could be a moment that fear got the better of you and won that day, or maybe a moment when you had to step into that fear and defeat the fear and you dulled those sharp blades and you made it through the other end.
Any moments from your life that jump out to you and you had to really face fear?
Yeah, I'm not sure why this one is coming top of mind, but I'll just talk about in high school, I ran cross country and track. And I
remember my entire freshman year, I was a good runner. I wouldn't say I was a great runner.
And part of my issue was when I got to the starting line, I had done a lot of preparation,
but I got myself so nervous, so fearful of the outcome before it happened
that I would work myself into such an anxious state, sometimes throwing up before races, etc.,
that because I wasn't in a relaxed state to allow myself to get into flow. I was not allowing myself to perform nearly as well as I possibly
could. And so I started to read some books and do some research on this when I was in high school.
And I realized that if I wanted to get accustomed to what that starting line
feels like and overcome that fear of the starting line,
I need to start treating practice as an actual race and get into that mental conditioning that
every time I step foot, whether it was a training run or us doing exercises on the track, to treat
it like I was stepping into a race environment. And the more I conditioned myself to feel like that and to prepare for it in that way
and to be mentally on the go at that moment,
it translated then into overwhelming success for a young runner to end up winning a state championship
and then going on to run Division I cross-country
and track. But if I had continued to fuel that fear, I would have never gotten over it. So it
was really a story of recognizing that I had to overcome it and look for tangible ways that I could do so.
And you talk about, both in your pod and the book, about self-doubt. Self-doubt is one of the enemies here that people, in particular for our audience today, a man,
professional man, a man who's working, he's got his life together, but he might not have the dating
life or the social confidence that a lot of people feel like they need. And you talk about self-doubt,
and it's that fear of not finding out you're not enough, finding out you're not good enough for
that job, or good enough for that woman, or good enough in some way. Is that right? Is self-doubt
one of the big bad wolves here? No, I mean, it absolutely is.
And I think you look at people who are at the top. I can't tell you how many CEOs
and other senior leaders I've met, we'll take this outside of dating, who have reached that pinnacle and are still so insecure about who they are, their messages,
constantly questioning others about what decisions they should make. And it reminds me of a CEO I
worked at in this tech company. And we used to call him the elevator CEO because whoever he rode the
elevator last with he would come out of that with a new strategic and decision
for the company and he let these impulsive decisions guide his personal
strategy instead of doubling down on his key strengths.
And here we have a person who came from Procter & Gamble,
was actually the person who created two or three of Procter & Gamble's biggest selling products of all time.
And you wouldn't think that a person of that pedigree would have that insecurity,
but in essence he was filled with self-doubt
and part of that self-doubt came because he was going into a different
environment than Proctor and Gamble he came from a brick-and-mortar type of
focus to one that was more of a digital focus and I think he felt because he
didn't have the same pedigree as some of the other people who is working with
that that was a disadvantage when actually he should have looked at it completely differently.
He should have brought out the ideas that he had from that Procter & Gamble experience
and let those who worked for him fill in the gaps and be his pillars of strength in bridging
his ideas with technology. Now, the same thing can happen in the dating world,
where I've seen it all the time,
where the person who's got the most self-confidence,
that's what the opposite sex or same sex is attracted to.
They want to see someone who understands their self-value,
understands the power that they hold, and
conveys it in a way that shows self-authority, self-awareness, etc. And that truly is a superpower.
I love that. It is a superpower to draw your worth from inside and to be first in touch with it
and aware of your worthiness,
your significance as a man. And also being able to project that out into the world in a positive way,
in a way that's empowering. I have a really quick story that I think relates to something you just
mentioned. You told that story about how sick to your stomach you used to be before a big race.
I remember the very first night I ever went out to
approach women. I had never done it. I was 38 years old, and I had never approached a woman in my
entire life. And about 20 minutes before I had to walk onto this rooftop lounge in New York City
with my then first ever coach to approach women, I had to first go into the men's room stall,
and I had a panic attack.
I got the dry heaves. I basically, and I wasn't drinking. It's all from nerves.
And essentially what I now realize is I felt in that moment that I was about to find out if I had
worth and value to women. And it was that self-doubt that was completely between my ears.
That was a bullshit story. It was nonsense, but that's how it felt in
that moment. So I guess my question back toward you, John, is how does anyone, man, woman, anyone,
how does somebody start doing that work to fix that self-doubt and start to rebuild it with real
self-worth? Well, I think you first have to analyze and get a firm grip of where you currently are.
And I think that's one of the biggest issues that people face is we live in a world that's
facing the disease of disconnection.
And the biggest disconnection that we face is understanding who we truly are and really doing a 360 evaluation on on
ourself and how we're showing up to others in the world and part of that
showing up is looking yourself in the mirror part of it is also seeking
feedback from others in in subtle ways so you understand how you were showing up to them. And so I think it really
gets down to the core of we need to spend time getting comfortable with ourselves, what we
believe in, what we're passionate about, and using that as our fuel to then bring that out into the
world. Because if you're never feeling good about who you are and
your inner strengths, there's no way you're going to be able to project that onto someone else.
Well said. And in my program, I give men a simple practical piece of advice, which
you listener right now, you might want to do this before this episode is over or at the end of the episode. They literally write out 25 reasons why this is what I do with my clients.
I have them write out a minimum of 25 reasons why he's a great catch for any given woman.
Most men have never actually thought about this.
They haven't stopped to say, what do I bring to the table?
What do I offer?
They're so busy focused on what they think
they lack that they don't stop and say, I have a steady job. I'm very successful. I'm in good shape.
I play the guitar. I have all these other cool hobbies. And after they hit that 25th reason why
they were a great catch, their psychology has made a shift, at least in that moment, to realize, wow,
I have a lot to
bring to the table. That's one of my exercises for helping a man begin to change that story about,
I'm not enough or I doubt myself. Do you have any other, do you have your own tips or advice on how
a person can really get in touch with that worth and value? Shut that self-doubt voice down? Well, as you were saying that, it took me back in time to my days
in college. And I remember at the Naval Academy, when you show up, you're coming out of a high
school environment where you're typically, if you get into the Naval Academy or any of the service
academies, you're at the pinnacle of your school. You've got good class grades typically.
You're involved in a lot of clubs, probably student council.
You're typically a varsity athlete.
You've got all that going for you.
And when you get to the Naval Academy, you realize how normal you are compared to everyone else. It's like a friend of mine who was a Big 12 All-American football player,
and he showed up to the NFL Combine thinking he was the best NFL player to ever put his shoes on.
And he got there, and he realized how average he was compared to everyone else. And I remember back in those days,
going out with a group of midshipmen who were my friends and going to try to introduce ourselves
to women. And you're constantly comparing yourself to those around you and thinking
that you're not worthy of it. And I think that whole idea of worthiness is to me where it starts and ends.
You have to start building the conditioning that you are worthy to have the life you want.
You're worthy to have the partner that you want.
You're worthy of building the life together that you aspire to have. And it's
really tapping into the vehicles that bring you worth and make you feel like you've, you've have
that to share with someone else, because when you feel that self-worth, others can feel it.
It's just kind of like an aura that just comes out of your body.
And it's really plugging into what are the things that make you feel alive
that boost up that inner fire that bring that worth out into the world, so to speak.
And what do you advise a man listening to this? He works hard. He might work 50,
60 hours a week sometimes. And he doesn't have a lot in his life other than his work and maybe he goes to the gym, has drinks with friends once a
week. Any advice for that guy to get more passion in his life, whether it's through his career
or through hobbies or any other strategies you have to dial up that passion, passionometer?
Well, I mean, it's so easy to get stuck in that state. I mean, I will tell you,
I've been there myself. I remember when I was in Fortune 50 companies, it's so easy to fall
in that trap where you're working 60, 70, 80, even 100 hours a week, and everything else seems to not be the focal point because you're so darn focused on
what you think is important but truly isn't. So I think the first thing that a person needs to do
is separate themselves from feeling that that's what's going to bring them fulfillment and
happiness. And I remember, and I read about this in the book, one of the things that I had to do to get
through this block is I actually went and saw a career coach who was a psychologist
on top of that.
He started to talk to me about, you know, you are living basically on one cylinder.
And he had me think about a stool with multiple supports.
But one of my supports was weighing much heavier than the others.
And that was the constant grind.
And when the constant grind is infiltrating your life like you're talking about,
the other core aspects that you want to build,
whether it's your health, relationships, et cetera,
go to the wayside because you're investing so much in one area.
So I think the first step you have to do is to do that exercise
and to figure out what are the pillars that are holding you up.
And the easiest way to do that is to use the Eisenhower matrix
or to look at your calendar and your pocketbook.
Like where are you investing your time and where are you investing your money?
And then you have to look at if you want to change that,
what do the pillars really look like that you want to support you?
And then I think once you have that in mind,
I think the trap we fall into is trying to go from point A to point B too quickly.
And I think the best thing to do is to pick a starting point.
So maybe in order to get the more dimensional aspects of yourself out there and you want a hobby,
maybe it's just initially starting to read a book as an example on a path that you want to go to
and making a deliberate choice that every single day you're going to read 10 minutes of a book.
Or maybe it's you want to start a gratitude practice and use that.
My point is I find it much easier to start creating a habit loop out of something that's small, that's repeatable.
And what I find is that once you start making changes in one area of your life, you end up magically making changes in multiple areas of your life because that one area opens up some confidence for you to explore another area and then almost subconsciously you're doing more and more.
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When I first started
working on my dating life, it was about 20 years ago. 20 years ago was when I started intentionally
getting focused on improving my confidence, how to talk to women, how to approach all the things I
was scared to death to do. I started saying, okay, I need to find some things I'm passionate about.
And the two things that really struck me
that women loved hearing about on dates
was I started taking improv classes
and learning the concepts of improv,
which was just fun and bold and scary,
and also reading a lot.
I just started reading the novels
that I blew off in college.
I finally read Moby Dick.
I finally read Huck Finn.
I finally read Catcher in the Rye.
And I had these great dates often
with women who were just excited to talk about literature
or talk about the acting class I just took.
So I went from having essentially nothing in my life
except work and a whole lot of self-doubt to,
okay, I don't know exactly if I'm a fit for this woman,
but hey, if she likes talking about books
or likes talking with a guy who's excited about his hobby, then I could see women respond to the passion I was sharing with them on the date.
Well, if all you have to talk about is your job and that's where your identity completely lies in, I mean, it's going to be a disaster because who wants to date someone who's
married to their job? Yeah. Yeah. I'm not married to my job, but we're in a very deep,
passionate relationship. I'll say that. Tell me if this is an example of passion
working on a date.
I remember when I first started reading a lot.
So I think here's the power of passion.
I was on a date once with a beautiful woman named Lane.
And at the time, I was really immersing myself in reading about presidents and history.
I was reading all about Abraham Lincoln.
And I must have spent 20 minutes talking about Abraham Lincoln
to this beautiful woman on a date.
And the crazy thing, John, she was into it.
She was actually sitting on the edge of her seat,
really engrossed in my talking about Doris Kearns Goodwin's book,
The Team of Rivals.
And maybe it's just because she liked me
and if it was important to me,
the topic was important to her.
But I remember thinking,
wow, when I'm really passionate about something,
then a lot of women seem to be into that topic,
at least for a little while.
That's not dating advice I would give most men,
talk about presidents for a half hour.
But it worked with me
and I think it worked because of that idea of an aura
that I was giving off. Well, it could have been, I think it depends on the woman you're talking to.
It sounds like you were talking to someone who's an intellectual or more willing to immerse herself
into that. Now, personally, I think some people might hear the topic of Abraham Lincoln
and without even wanting to explore it more, push it aside,
without realizing how much that you can learn from his life.
I mean, it's amazing when you go back and examine him,
how interesting it is and how much of a conversation starter that could be,
which my point here is that when you're dating,
you might not think of that as a core conversation starter,
but for so many years until he was in his mid-30s, mid to late 30s,
Lincoln thought he was a piece of driftwood just aimlessly bouncing off one thing to the next.
And if you follow his career trajectory, that's exactly what he was doing. I mean, he went from
job to job, from shopkeeper to surveyor to politician to lawyer, back to politician, I mean, he had such a lack of passion for a while in his life that when he finally found what that passion was, which was to rid the world or the United States of slavery, it ignited in him and took fire. And I think it's a great story for a date, actually, because it gives you so much
to talk about, about, you know, what's your journey been like? How have you found your passion?
Which could lead into, you know, various conversation starters for someone. So,
interesting topic. How to get girls by talking about Abraham Lincoln, my next book.
You can write the foreword.
I want to come back to this concept of facing fear, because I just think it's so valuable
for men dating or just men in their careers and in their life searching for intention
and passion and self-improvement.
You talk about what you call
a fear confronter. I love that term, fear confronters. And you talk about Hilary Swank,
as you mentioned in your book. You talk about Novak Djokovic. I'm a big tennis fan, among others.
And you also share a little tip that I also tell my guys. I say, do something every day that scares
you. Now, I'm talking through the lens of dating.
Ask out your crush.
Say the flirtatious thing to the cute barista.
Approach that woman who is intriguing to you.
But in your area of who you help and work with,
or outside of the realm of dating,
what are some of the daily rituals of confronting fear
and taking fearful actions that you think can bring real value to somebody's
life. Yeah, a good friend of mine wrote this book, Scare Your Soul. And in it, Scott really talks
about the core. It's a great companion to my book because that's really, to your point, what you need to do. You really need to challenge yourself on a daily basis
to push the boundaries, the self-imposed limits
that you place upon yourself.
And this is another area where I think we complicate
what those barriers have to be,
because we make these challenges almost insurmountable in our mind, instead of looking at them as
small boundary shifts. So similar to you, I love to do improv. I think we're going to
possibly do this more in the interview. But when I started to go down this path,
part of the reason I was doing it is I was trying to get more into public speaking again,
and I hadn't done it in a number of years.
And so for me, the thought of getting up there on the stage and having to be in front of a group of people was quite intimidating
because my back story is I've had a number of traumatic brain injuries, and they cause me, it's probably not apparent as you're watching this,
but it causes me to have speech impediment,
and I oftentimes think ahead of speaking or vice versa.
So sometimes things come out of my mouth that I don't want to,
so a whole bunch of things.
And you could
sit there and ruminate on that forever, or you can choose to do something about it. And the only way
you're going to get over things like that is by getting out there and doing it. So improv to me
was a great way to start leaning into that. But I remember when I first showed up and the way our improv class went
was we did a number of games before we actually went into the improv class and started to do
improv. And these games immediately put you in an uncomfortable place. And I remember one of the
first ones we did was this game where we picked a random partner or we were kind of told to turn around and
then we had to stare at them for five minutes straight and then were asked to make facial
expressions to kind of convey what we were thinking in our mind to give them a subliminal message.
And I don't care who you are, staring at someone you don't know for
five minutes is a hard thing to do. My point, though, with this is once you condition yourself
to do things like this, and that's a hard task, it gets so much easier. So one of the things I try
to do for my community is in my newsletter, every single week I put out a weekly challenge that goes to the solo episode
that I do for that week. So this past week I did a solo episode on gratitude. So I put a seven-day
challenge in there that I try to do myself so that I'm giving the listeners or readers tips that they
can do to expand their courage muscles every single day by just taking a small
step in the right direction that you want to go. And I think that's the way you have to do it.
Beautiful. I love that episode. I'm a big fan of gratitude. I call it, I call it my morning ritual.
I have my clients do the confidence kickoff. Tony Robbins calls it the hour of power. There's
miracle morning. It's all basically the same concept which is
getting in touch with gratitude and understanding how many wonderful gifts
you have in your life so that you start every day coming off from a really
powerful positive sense of of not lacking anything at least that's my
interpretation of of my confidence kickoff
and the confidence kickoff I have my clients do.
Could you talk a little bit about the gratitude exercises
you have your clients do
or any gratitude tips you have for our listener?
Yes, well, specifically, I'm going to talk about both and thinking.
We are so conditioned in Western society by stoicism and so much of the Western teachings we burn up to
that we get conditioned to things have to be either or.
And when it comes to gratitude, what I was specifically exploring in this recent episode
was using gratitude to help navigate pain or challenges. And for me,
I used two examples from my life. One was my sister unfortunately lost her battle with
pancreatic cancer earlier in the year, followed up by a few months later, we were severely impacted by Hurricane Helene and had three feet of water in our house.
So and it's so amazing because you see pictures of people who experience natural disasters on Instagram or wherever you want to look on the news.
And I swear, until it happens to you, you don't realize the magnitude of loss and devastation that comes with it.
And it's hard at allow yourself to feel both the
immense depth feelings of devastation those big feelings of loss of hurt and have gratitude on
the other side of it gratitude that you know i got to spend so many years of my life with an incredible woman who
influenced me in so many ways gratitude that i was there just hours before she died
so i could hear her final thoughts and wishes you know the devastation of feeling the loss of
losing everything of seeing pictures of your kids and paintings that they created
that were in, for lack of a better word, shit water, that you're never going to be able to get back.
But the gratitude that you had those memories and that those memories are alive
and that everyone is safe and that you can rebuild. And it gives my fiance and I a shot that we don't have to hold on to our old possessions,
but instead we can build a new life together in gratitude of what that life can be.
So I would tell people that easier ways to do this is to look at what are challenges
that you might be facing just today. You know,
is it a deadline from work that you're facing? Is it a challenge that maybe you said something
you shouldn't have to a loved one? Maybe it's you haven't shown up the way you would like to
for your kids. And then how can you spin that so that you recognize both the condition
that you have those faults and the opportunity that you have to write them and do something
on the other side of it that lifts that person up, that takes that stress away by maybe giving yourself the gift of a workout
or the gift of listening to a podcast or the gift of showing gratitude that you can listen
to music and balance out the stress that you're feeling.
Powerful.
Very powerful.
I'm sorry for your loss, John.
A few months ago, I lost my biggest sister, Kelly. And she was in her mid-60s. She had a
heart condition. And it wasn't a surprise when it happened, but it was very sad. And I tried to
employ, I did employ the concepts you just mentioned, not that I was familiar with you at
the time, but I applied both and thinking to the best of my ability. I remember thinking,
I miss her, my big sister. I was more like her than any best of my ability. I remember thinking, I miss her, my big sister. I
was more like her than any other of my siblings. But at the same time, I said, I'm so grateful that
I had her in my life for as long as we did. And she lived much longer than she was supposed to.
Now, what does this have to do with dating? It doesn't really have anything to do with dating,
other than it reminded me that no matter what were to happen that day in my dating life or in my business life for that matter that I can handle it
the big picture things the the love I've had from my siblings from my sister Kelly
the health I have being lucky lucky enough to be born with a healthy heart unlike her I just
remember feeling well I'm I miss her so much, but
it was such a gift to have her in my life. And that can put getting ghosted into perspective,
or a bad date, or a bad business meeting, or what have you. So I think we're both on the same page
there about gratitude with our siblings. Yeah, you know, and it's, um, it just reminded me of, um, my, my sister was divorced
and, um, when she was first diagnosed with, with pancreatic cancer, she was single.
And I remember her saying to me, um, you know, how am I ever going to find love again in my life?
Like who would ever want to date someone who's been diagnosed with,
with potentially a terminal illness. And it, it really made me, uh, think about what it would be
like to be in her shoes, wanting and needing, and probably longing for love and support in that
situation and feeling desperate on the other side that
she wouldn't be able to find it. And I kind of just leaned into her and said,
you know, it's easy to think that way. But the right person who loves you for the right reasons
is going to see beyond that and, and want to fulfill you for as long as they possibly can and you know
should instill you with the hope that no matter how bleak things seem there's a reason to fight
and a potential to to take action and and try to to defeat the things in front of you. Well said. Well said.
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little bit about your unique expertise in the area of business, of men and women who are working.
I'm intrigued by this area, the area of businesses and success in the career.
What I have my clients do is I basically say to them, let's think of your dating life as
a business and let's get multiple funnels of good leads coming into your dating life.
Just like a business needs lots of clients and revenue, your dating life needs an abundance
of good potential dates.
And there's different ways to meet women.
So I think of a man's dating life
almost like we're rebranding him
in a very authentic, attractive way
and bringing in some new leads.
When you're coaching your clients
or when you're talking at one of your keynote events,
which I assume is very geared toward the corporate world,
what are some of the more practical tips and strategies
you give people in their careers to find that passion?
Well, what I'd love to talk about right now is the topic of chronic hopelessness and people facing loneliness in the world and
people who feel battered, bored, however you want to say it. And throughout so much of the world,
we've had so much political turmoil and everything else, it's easy to feel those things.
But I think at the crux of this is a feeling of unmattering. I think whether it's in your personal life or
professionally, this lack of feeling significance is at the heart of a lot of these symptoms that
we're feeling. So, I mean, I'll apply this to the dating world. If you want someone to reciprocate love to you, attraction to you, I think there's three aspects of mattering that I talk to that could be applied here as well.
The first thing is you have to matter to yourself.
We've talked a lot about building self-worth today, getting over self-limiting beliefs. But at the core of that, it's really our own sense of
feeling significance, of feeling we mattering, of feeling that we are bringing value to the world.
Then there are two other sides of mattering. One is us feeling that we matter to others.
So I think that's where a lot of our confidence or lack of it shows up is do we feel like we hold weight in the presence of others?
Do we feel like others care about our well-being?
Do they recognize our inherent capabilities?
Do you portray them the right way so that people are receptive to that and then I think the third lens of mattering is our
ability to show others that they matter and I think this is one of the biggest
keys if you're looking at a relationship or dating is how are you showing up for
someone else so that they feel like they matter, like they hold significance, like you view them as the central point in your life and that their interests, their passions truly matter to you.
Because if you want them to reciprocate, you have to show to them that they matter.
And so I think that those three concentric circles,
people don't look at that enough. And to me, this is where intentionality,
which I talk a lot about, comes at the core of this because intentionality is really about self-control. It's making the choices for how we want to show up in the moments that make up our days. So are you making
choices where you are building yourself up to hold significance? Are you making choices where you are
making others feel like they matter? And are you doing the things to project and show up in a way
that others are going to feel like you matter. And to me,
that all comes down to the choices that we make, the people we surround ourselves
with, the environments that we put ourselves into.
Well said. One last question, then we'll play a little improv game. We'll go out with some fun
little date tips that the listener can try out.
I'm curious about this though. One of the things I work with my clients on is how they talk about
their job in a sentence or two, how they describe what they do. Because every woman asks every man
on a date or maybe when they're texting before the date, what do you do? Tell me about your job,
your career. And it's important to know how to talk about your job and career. And I'll talk about what I give my clients to do in a second. But
I'm curious, how do you want people to talk about what they do when they describe their career,
their profession? I think the worst question that there is, is what do you do and I'm gonna go all the way back to Hillary
Swank because she's touching an easy example she could say I'm an actress she
could say I'm a producer she could say I'm a wife I'm a mother when she is
asked that question what she says to people is I'm a storyteller and I want
to change people's lives through the stories that I tell throughout
my life, whether it's the stories I'm able to share with my kids, the stories I'm able to bring
to life as a producer, the stories I'm able to act and bring to life on the big screen.
And I think when we think about that question, it's so easy to self-identify with
what we do for work instead of how we want to show up in the world and the service
that we're trying to provide to the world to make it a little bit better of a place.
Right. What I have my clients do is I give them, or we come up with a one or two, a one-liner or
two-liner, a good answer. I never teach men scripted lines or scripted pickup BS, but if you
know you're going to get the same question, it's good to have a good answer. So what I have them
do actually is aligned with what you teach. I say, let's come up with a way to describe your job in a way that taps into the passion you have
for it. So for example, I have a client named, I'll call him Vijay. And Vijay is a professor,
and he's also an expert in the human body. I forget his title, but it's about optimal physical
performance. And he used to just answer that question in a very mechanical way.
Oh, I'm an assistant professor at this school.
This is my title.
It's a very logical analytical answer. And we had him juice the answer with some passion and it talked about how he said,
oh, I'm a mad scientist. I help people transform their bodies so they live their most ultimate
vital, fit, amazing selves.
And I just felt so much better to him to talk about his job that way.
And also, it makes women light up a little bit more, saying, oh, really?
You're a mad scientist?
You transform bodies?
Tell me more.
So anyway, I love giving my clients a mission to talk about their career in a way that if
they don't have a cool sounding job,
not everybody is the shortstop for the New York Yankees, right? So if you're an engineer,
if you're a software coder, talk about what you're passionate about for your job instead
of just giving the facts and figures for what you do. No, I think that's very, I mean, it's very important. I guess I would think back to my time as like a CIO at Dell. And if someone would ask me that question, instead of saying I'm the CIO of Dell, I could say I help people create the power to do more.
That's good yes more with technology more with capabilities you know because underlying
any company today is is the technology enablement that it does and it really gives people the
ability to do more with their jobs yeah well you did something there that I also want my listener to do. If he has a classically acceptable but not exciting job,
ask yourself, how does your job help people?
What does it allow you to do in terms of contributing, giving back?
And if you can talk about your job through the lens of,
oh, I'm a software coder at XYZ company.
I help people get access to health care
and heal themselves with my programming.
At least now we're talking about how you give back instead of just being a robot talking about
what you do. Okay, let's finish up with this. You and I have something in common. We both like to
take improv. Improv comedy is one of my favorite things to do in the world. Yes, I have a lot of passion for it.
And it's actually one of the best things any man can do,
any single man can do, besides work with a great dating coach
or get good advice from people like me,
is take an improv class.
Because improv teaches playfulness, teaches presence,
teaches active listening, and it's just fun.
And I love giving my clients little games to play on
dates, basically improv games. So are you up for playing a quick little 60-second improv game with
me right now? Sure, let's go for it. Okay, I'll give you two options, your choice. We can play
one of two games. One game is called ABC, where we have a conversation, and the first letter of every sentence is
the next letter in the alphabet.
So I might start off by saying, are you having fun on my podcast?
And your next sentence would start with a B, and my next sentence would start with a
C.
So that's game number one, option number one.
Option two, John, is we can play what I call Love-Hate Cafe, which is I have an improv generator right here, and it'll give us
a suggestion, and we can take turns saying what we either love or hate about the thing that came up.
And it can be pretend hate. It doesn't have to be actually negative hate. So do you want to play
Love-Hate Cafe, or do you want to play the ABC sentence game? Let's do Love, Hate Cafe. Okay, great.
All right.
Your suggestion is, I'll let you start because you're my guest,
is peanut butter.
What do you either love or hate about peanut butter?
I hate how much peanut butter sticks to the top of my mouth.
I love how much peanut butter sticks to the top of my mouth because it
allows me to keep my mouth shut and stop yakking all the time and stop annoying
my girlfriend okay my turn the suggestion that came up for me is the
word doors so that makes me think of the band the doorsors. I hate The Doors. I think Jim Morrison is so overrated. He had a
one octave range and their songs take away the keyboard sound and every Doors song is bland and
boring. I hate The Doors. Why do you either love or hate The Doors? I love The Doors because I think
that they have stood the test of time. Their songs resonate with people today just as much as
they did when they were written. Regardless of what you think of Jim Morrison's talent or not,
people feel a message when they hear his voice and when they hear their music. Okay, last one.
The last suggestion is Batman. I'll let you take this one or start. Why do you
either love or hate Batman or whatever Batman makes you think of? So I would say
I love Batman because he is the unexpected hero.
I almost look at him like he's an everyday hero because he really doesn't have a superpower.
All the superpowers he has are built on his belief system and the gadgets that he has to make change in the world. It's not as if he was born with extraordinary strength or speed or
is able to have laser vision like so many other people do, but yet he is really fighting for the
cause of making Gotham City a better place to live and trying to root out evil in the best passionate way that he can. I hate Batman because he wears tights,
and I think men look stupid in tights. All right. So that's a fun little game you can play at home,
I should say on dates. On a date, you could just talk with a woman about things you love or hate. Now, don't make it actual hate.
Make it silly, absurd hate.
But we want to bring a lot of playfulness and presence
and active listening to a date.
So feel free to play a game like love-hate on your next date,
and you and your date might find out it's a blast.
John, thank you so much for being here.
I want to end by asking
you if there's anything you want to share with our listener about how they can learn more about you,
and also perhaps share a little bit about your keynote speaking.
Well, thank you so much, and thank you for having me on the show. And I haven't had to use the
passion construct for relationships, so it was an interesting interview for me from
that standpoint. But if you want to learn more about me personally, you can go to my website,
John R. Miles. If you want to learn more about what we're doing with passion struck, you can go
to passionstruck.com, which has the podcast, the book and everything else. And I am really enthusiastic about spreading the word about living a life
of significance. And I can tailor this message to both corporate events where it's like, how do you
develop a passion-struck culture where employees feel like they matter? Or I can tailor this to
associations or individual events if you're looking for personal development.
And if you want to learn more about my speaking, see that reel, etc., the best place to do that is on the John R. Miles website.
Thank you, John R. Miles.
His book is passion struck.
His podcast is passion struck.
And I'll end with one more quote I love from your book.
Quote, your passion is the
most powerful force you have. When you align your actions with it, you unlock your fullest potential.
And in dating, I believe the most powerful force in dating is being your authentic, real self.
So thank you very much for listening. Go out there, take courageous, authentic action. And
don't forget, your dream girlfriend, she's out there and she already likes you. She's going to love you.
She just has to meet the real, authentic you.
So carpe diem.
Seize the date.
Till next time.