How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett - Scared to Make a Move? How to Read Women & Know When to Go For It (Featuring Kezia Noble!)

Episode Date: May 22, 2025

Do you struggle to read women? The fear of making the wrong move—and seeming creepy—can kill your confidence. In this encore episode, dating coach Connell Barrett talks with renowned expert and be...stselling author Kezia Noble, who’s helped over 100,000 men. They dive into how to read a woman’s signals, how to make the right moves (and avoid the wrong ones), and create real attraction through authenticity.Kezia and Connell discuss:7:35: How Kezia Learned to Get Great Results for Her Clients15:40: How to Dial Up Attraction Using her “Double-Sided Compliment”18:12: “The Shadow,” the Side of Men that Women Find Seductive21:45: What to Say on Dates to go from Boring to Charismatic23:05: How to Be Authentically Interesting to Women as the Raw, Real You29:05: The Right Way to Talk About Your Career… and the Wrong Way30:45: The Truth about How Much Looks Really Matter to Women33:51: Why Women Hate the Apps and are “Absolutely Dying” for Men like You to Approach Them37:35: How to Get a Woman Who Rejected You to Change Her Mind and Chase YouListen now and start so you can finally understand what women want!TO LEARN ABOUT KEZIA’S 1-1 COACHING PROGRAMSwww.kezia-noble.com/VISIT KEZIA’S YOUTUBE CHANNELhttp://www.youtube.com/@KezianobledatingexpertGET KEZIA’S BESTSELLING BOOK, “THE NOBLE ART OF SEDUCING WOMEN”http://www.amazon.com/Noble-Art-Seducing-Women-Foolproof/dp/1843587629FOR A FREE STRATEGY CALL WITH CONNELL TO DISCUSS COACHINGhttp://www.datingtransformation.com/contact

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to the how to get a girlfriend podcast. I am your host dating coach, Connell Barrett, helping you do just that, get a great girlfriend by texting better, by flirting better, by confidently approaching and doing this all with authenticity. No sketchy toxic pickup moves needed. Women like you for you. And I really, I really want you to think of me as your podcast dating coach, quite literally. Like you can email me, connellatdatingtransformation.com, email me a dating question, email me a dating problem you have,
Starting point is 00:00:36 and I will respond to you. So I'm quite literally your dating coach, at least you can reach out to me and I can help you out. And I'll respond to you and I might even ask your question on an episode. Today, I'm doing a really cool interview with Kezia Noble. If you've ever wondered how the heck do you talk to women? How do I read women?
Starting point is 00:00:57 How do I know when to make a move? When not to? Well, you know who knows women is women. And Kezia Noble really knows women. She's a dating expert. She's based in the UK. She is fantastic. And she and I spoke for about a half hour with all kinds of great insight from Kezia.
Starting point is 00:01:18 So this is a re-broadcast episode, an encore episode from six or seven months ago, but I wanted to re-broadcast it for a very specific reason. She shares a dating tip in this episode at the very end. So about 30 minutes in, she shares one of the best dating tips I've ever heard from another expert. It's about what to do, what to say when you approach a woman and initially she quote rejects you and how to flip it and how to flip it into actually a successful approach and I just love the tip and I had to rebroadcast it also Kezia is just fantastic she's just a brilliant brilliant mind in this world so enjoy this rebroadcast episode with myself talking to Kezia before we get to that I have a quick story. I want to share with you the woman's point of view on approaching as
Starting point is 00:02:11 I began to see it when I started meeting women out in the real world. So here's a quick story. I think you're gonna love this. I met Barnes and Noble one day and this is in the late 2000s, because I had just been approaching women for about six months or so. Off and on, I was still pretty wobbly doing it, but I was trying my best. And I walked up to a woman on the third floor at the Barnes and Noble in Union Square in the magazine rack section, and I walk over over and I'm feeling pretty confident. I'm in the zone. I'm in that authentic confident zone which does happen once you get some momentum
Starting point is 00:02:53 and I approached a really pretty girl. She had these cool wrist tattoos. She had tattoos on her ankles. She's kind of like how would you describe her? She was like an edgy kind of rock and roll chick, little edginess and just sort of a bad girl in a good way. Anyway, so I'm feeling confident. I walk up to her and I said, hey, what's up? I just saw you and I had to meet you. You're really cute. I like your tattoos, something pretty genuine,
Starting point is 00:03:21 but also direct like that, being direct. And we chatted for two or three minutes and it went very well. And her friend was with her, by the way, her friend was with her. And we chatted and then I went for the number, I went for the date. And she said, well, I really don't think so.
Starting point is 00:03:37 I mean, I live pretty far away from here. I'm in central Connecticut. It's like a hundred miles away from New York City and Basically, she started to turn me down. She was doing it politely, but she turned me down and I said wait You're gonna you're gonna break my heart here at Barnes & Noble Well, I'm gonna go down to a different floor and maybe I'm gonna buy a poetry book and write a poem called going to buy a poetry book and write a poem called Why Stacy Broke Connell's Heart. So I made some joke like that. And she giggled and laughed. She said, Yeah, I don't know. I'm pretty far away. But she was flattered. But she wasn't. She said no,
Starting point is 00:04:17 she said thanks, but no, thanks. So I walk away. I go to a different floor. I'm just book shopping. I'm walking around. And about two minutes later, there's a tap on my shoulder and I turn around and it's Stacey. And she says, Hey, you know what, I after you left, I just thought I've thought about it for a second. And you coming up to me is the coolest thing that's happened to me in so long, in months. So yeah, here, take my number. And we had a date a week later. I just can't, I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:04:50 I remember feeling so amazed that she not only wanted to talk to me and go out with me, but she actually went looking for me. Think about that. She actually said to her girlfriend something like, wow, it was so cool that guy came up to me and then she actually had to come find me Think of all the good signals that I was sending that day that I want you to be able to send women authenticity
Starting point is 00:05:16 Trying to make her smile feeling comfortable in your skin Not thinking of this as something creepy or weird, but really owning the fact that hey, you're a man, she's a woman, why wouldn't you go chat with her? And what she really loved was I took her quote rejection with humor. And no big deal. She could feel that sense of, oh, this guy really is okay with me saying no. And I and I laughed and joked and made it a pleasant, comfortable moment for us and ended up having a date with her a week later. So the lesson here is yes, you absolutely can approach women.
Starting point is 00:05:54 They do like it and you might actually make her weak. You might be that thing that makes her go, wow, this is the best thing that's happened to me in ages this guy just came up to me. Any said something genuine and we clicked and i was into it. Can you finish is not you probably gonna make her day better you can flatter her you gonna make her feel like she's special and that's the goal here we always wanna leave every woman feeling like she's feeling more special than before she met you. feeling more special than before she met you. Anyway, I just wanted to share that story. Okay, let's talk to Kezia Noble. Enjoy.
Starting point is 00:06:29 All right, welcome back to the How to Get a Girlfriend podcast. I'm your host, dating coach and author, Connell Barrett. I'm here to help you confidently flirt with women and attract your dream girlfriend all by being authentic. No toxic pickup tricks needed because women like you for you. And let me ask you a question. Do women confuse you? Do women ghost you? Do you ever struggle
Starting point is 00:06:51 with what to say, what to talk about? Well, today's very special guest is here to help you truly understand what women want and how to give them what they want in the dating game so that you can get a great girlfriend. Kezia Noble is the leading female dating and attraction expert for men. Her videos have received over 72 million views on YouTube, and she wrote a bestselling book called The Noble Art of Seducing Women.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Kezia has helped over 100,000 guys, just like you, overcome their sticking points, their limiting beliefs beliefs to achieve some pretty fantastic success with women which you're gonna hear about the kind of success that guys never thought was possible and you can learn a lot more about Kezia on her website at Kezia-noble.com and that's K-E-Z-I-A. Kezia, welcome to the How to Get a Girlfriend podcast. Hello, hi. Thank you for that lovely introduction. You're very welcome. It's a long intro because you've done a lot. You've achieved a lot. By the way, dear listener, hang out to the very end of the episode because Kezia is going to share a very powerful tip,
Starting point is 00:07:59 a powerful insight about women that you're going to want to hear. So stand by. Okay, Kezia, here's the first question I want to ask you before we get into some advice on helping men flirt and date. Can you tell me a little bit about your journey to becoming a dating expert? Was there a moment or a time in your life when you had an aha moment and said, oh, I really need to help men. I'm going to become a coach and an expert and a guide. How did that happen? Well, it didn't happen like that I was essentially headhunted which sounds bizarre, but it's true. You know, that's the closest way I can explain it
Starting point is 00:08:37 This is back in 2006 I was mining my own business and I was in a bar and a guy approached me and he said that he worked for or he was part of a company that helped men pick up women because this was 2006, so pick up was a thing, right? And we don't use, I don't use that phrase anymore, but it was then. And I was like, what is pick up? What's a a pickup artist? And he explained it to me, explained, look, we teach guys like how to pull women, essentially, how to attract women. And I was a complete skeptic. I was like, you can't teach it. Either there's chemistry or there's nothing. So he said, well, I've actually come over to approach you because I'd like you
Starting point is 00:09:25 come over to approach you because I'd like you to come along to one of our workshops and to give feedback to the guys that are on our program on one of our boot camps because we're looking for like Attractive young women. I was an attractive young woman then okay, and So we have to give back we have to give our feedback to the guys and Because we were talking a little bit and he found me very honest and direct. And he said, look, that's really what we're looking for. So I went there and thought, okay, let's just give this a go.
Starting point is 00:09:53 And there were two things that I noticed pretty quickly, which was the first was that there were indeed practical tools, advice that you could give men that could really make a change. I saw that within the space of the time I was there. And the second thing that I noticed is that there were no women in this movement or industry or community, whatever you want to call it. The other women that were there were giving very, excuse me, let me turn off my emails, were giving very wishy washy advice,
Starting point is 00:10:25 you know, like, just be yourself, smile more, be more confident. Very vague. Very vague, because I think a lot of women are people pleasers, essentially. Whereas I've never been a people pleaser, I've never felt the need to please other people. I think that's probably a masculine trait in me.
Starting point is 00:10:43 And so I was just very honest, very direct. And I left thinking, okay, they're gonna come after me with pitchforks, these guys, but actually, they all just were queuing up for a personal one-on-one. It was like, what's that? I just came in to help today and get paid for a session. But then the owner of the company's name's Richard Larrawina or some people know him as Gambler back from the day.
Starting point is 00:11:10 He said, no, we're really looking for this and we want you to like come next weekend and do the same thing. So I was coming more regularly and then I was like listening to what was being taught. And I didn't realize that I could really help men but I realized that I loved human psychology but not in the way that it's taught you know if you go to university I like the
Starting point is 00:11:30 kind of I'm not gonna lie like the manipulation tactics I like reverse psychology just learning new ideas of how to can I swear on this or no I won't if you don't want me to. Hell yeah you can. Like how to mind up people and. I found it really interesting. I found what I found really interesting is how unattractive women and men got such good looking guys and women. Like I wanted to know that and I'd seen it.
Starting point is 00:11:53 I said, this is, it's not looks, it's game. Cause that's when I realized I didn't give it a name before. I'd just be like sex appeal, psychology. But then I sort of put it all into game. And that's what I got really fascinated about. I've been really good at it. Really good at spotting things, spotting what people were doing and breaking it down, like what the naturals were doing and passing it on. And because I was
Starting point is 00:12:16 very honest, and I was very, I have a very unfiltered kind of presentation of my life and my opinions. And I just felt it worked perfectly. and it did because I started getting a name for myself it's like this is the go-to this is the go-to woman and then I set up a YouTube channel on the side which I wasn't really allowed to do but I wasn't under contract so I did this YouTube channel and it really took off and I realized okay there's there's millions of guys out there that want to hear an honest female insight.
Starting point is 00:12:47 You know, they don't want the bullshit. They wanna hear the woman just giving it raw. What do I do? How does it make women feel? And I did that and then that got a lot of attraction. And then I was approached by a publishing company here in the UK. They offered me a book deal.
Starting point is 00:13:05 And then I left the company and set up my own company around 2011 when I got the book deal and the media attention from that. So that's like a very streamlined version of my story and how I got into this. What lights you up the most about your work with Nan? When do you feel the best by helping these guys? I am very success driven.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I do want to see results. I don't get a lot from a guy going, oh, that really helped me in terms of theory. I get it now, Kezia. I want to see them actually get results and come back and say to me, I got laid last night. Or I met a beautiful woman and we went on a date. I'm very results focused driven. So I prefer that rather than people just, I do like a compliment when someone said like, I really value
Starting point is 00:13:58 that theory that you've given, and I'm going to put it into use. But I prefer it when they actually come back with the results. Absolutely. Are there any results, any specific clients, former, current, whoever, that comes to your mind right now and makes you remember a moment where, oh, Jake didn't know how to approach a woman and the next thing you know, he's messaging you saying,
Starting point is 00:14:23 I'm lying in bed with the most beautiful woman today or whatever the Story is do you have any fun success stories that this came yesterday? Tuesday I don't want to show his name. That's the thing this came Tuesday, which is Hello, don't know if you remember me says his name. No, I don't remember him Oh, I'm not gonna lie. I don't. I worked with you some 15 years ago when I had gone through a breakup. You worked with me and I came out the other side. I doubt you get many people thanking you, but I am. I've just gone through my 10th year happily married. Together I am where I am because you worked magic with me. Wow. So, look, we have lots of video testimonials of guys going, you know, I dated a model by the
Starting point is 00:15:07 end of the seven day mastery program, but kind of like these little intimate messages that I get on my phone or on my, you know, private, you know, DMs on Instagram, I mean a lot, weddings, pictures of their babies even. It's really nice, it's great. Yeah, I remember the first baby I helped bring into the world. The only baby I've ever brought into the world in any way because I'm not a father.
Starting point is 00:15:34 And my client, Michael, sent me a picture of his new baby and I thought, oh my God, I kind of helped do that. You did, you did. I'm not blocking the cock, I'm guiding the cock. Why? Calm down, man. What? You just cock block McLaughlin. Okay, he's our friend. We don't do that. We should be guiding his cock. Not blocking it. Like, I think the quote is from 40 year old Virgin. Don't block the cock, guide the cock. So that makes me feel amazing. Well, let's talk about some good game. Let's
Starting point is 00:16:04 talk about what it takes to get these results that you're so proud to get your clients. I was checking out your ebook last night, which is a great super fast download 10 rapid one I've got one. Oh, it's the one the first one that popped up on your website called 10 rapid ways to get a woman. Oh, yeah. Okay, fine. We wrote that a long time ago. Yeah, it's it but it's a quick download. It took 10 minutes to read it. There's a couple tips in it that I really liked that I had never heard before. And I wanted to run a couple by you and ask you why why this works. And one of the tips in your in
Starting point is 00:16:36 your ebook was what you call the double sided compliment. Yes. Could you give an example of what the double sided compliment is and how to how to use that on a woman you're talking to? So it's a form of validation, positive validation. A double-sided compliment is a mix actually of positive and negative, I should say. So if you say to a woman, I think you'd look better if you wore those kind of shoes. That's kind of like an insult almost. Right. So you've got to cushion the blow. So you say, look, those shoes look really
Starting point is 00:17:14 good on you. But if you were wearing and then you put in the type of shoe, or it could be dress or anything that you find sexy, then you say to her, if you were wearing these kind of shoes, you know, dot, dot, dot, I would be totally making a move on you or I wouldn't be able to control myself. So it's also a form of sexual escalation. You are flirting with her, but you're not saying to her, I want you quite yet. You are titillating her, you are teasing her and women respond very very well to that but you need that cushion to begin with. You need to say you look good but you can't just go in straight for you should be wearing this
Starting point is 00:17:57 because she can't translate that as an attack and then you get the hostile reaction. You don't want a hostile reaction. I like that a lot. I like it because as I read that to me, if, if I'm saying to a woman, Oh, I really liked those shoes. Yet if you were wearing XYZ, you'd look even more amazing to me that sending a message to her that says, I'm liking you, but I have high standards and I could like you even more. In other words, I'm not saying myself or is that part of it? It's doing that but it's also saying, yeah, you've got boxes that need to be ticked and you know what you want sexually, you're just lacing it with, you know, just that it's just that
Starting point is 00:18:39 tease. Okay, it's very important at the beginning. So yeah, I love double sidedsided compliments. I think people should use them much more. Yeah, I'm a fan early on in a date, or especially a first date or a first approach, something to what I call a negative spike, something that's a tease or a little bit of a challenge just to show, I'm a nice guy, a kind guy, but also I have some edge, I have some self-confidence. I think that's very important. It's also just to go a little bit of a deep dive on it, it's kind of showing the shadow
Starting point is 00:19:15 side, which is something I teach about how to use the shadow side to seduce a woman. And it's very important that if you are that kind, great guy, that you show the element of the bad guy, you know, or the very sexual guy. And it's that polarity in contrast that make women go crazy. Polarity, that's the magic word. I love that. You must know your psychology. You know, you're Carl Jung.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Have you studied some psychology, the dark side? I know of some of the theories, but I know, I tried to, I have a lot of friends who've been to psychologists, I have a lot of clients who went to psychologists, and most of the times it does not help them. I just don't, I'm interested into it to a certain degree, but I just have learned so much psychology from hanging around strip clubs, from honestly, like ridiculous level of psychology there from hanging around people who are marketers, salespeople, game, pickup artists, these people know
Starting point is 00:20:18 psychology, because they practice it. It's not just theory, they can look at the things that are there though. That's crap Let's get rid of that. That's good in theory or it's good in this situation. It's not good in that situation So I prefer to be with people who understand psychology, but not from a book You know, they've experienced it and they lived through it go. No, this is bullshit. This does not work Okay, you know like some people that I'm trying to find a really like basic like Basic psychology would be like oh you need to mirror the person And i'm just thinking it doesn't work it's
Starting point is 00:20:58 It doesn't not help but it doesn't work. So waste your time on that You know, let's work on this instead, if that makes sense. Right, I agree. Part of why I got addicted to learning about this when I was a student of experts was, yeah, my dating results were getting better, which felt incredible, but I was fascinated by how the mind works,
Starting point is 00:21:17 how to persuade people, how to essentially understand sort of seeing the matrix of psychology in terms of practical human interactions. I was fascinated by it. Like for instance, you know, like I have this thing where I don't want to talk about too much. I've got a video coming out about it, but it's reverse psychology, how to use anti-cell,
Starting point is 00:21:35 right? How to sort of go the opposite and undersell yourself on purpose, like try and put the person off you. Now they would never teach that in a psychology book, but it's fucking powerful when you know how to do it. And it's got some rules to it and things, but I've been using it now for about a year. I'm passing it on like sort of in private with people
Starting point is 00:21:55 and they're like, wow, this stuff is real, it works. But again, you would not find that in a book, like, oh no, always, you know, oversell yourself and show your best possible self. And it's like, no, you've got to use a bit of this other stuff also in the mix, which doesn't make sense on paper, but does work when you do it correctly. Yeah, well, paper, you know, there's the map, and then there's the actual terrain of life. And what works on paper in a book is very different than what would work in life, which is why you got to get out there and have the real life interactions.
Starting point is 00:22:29 You struggle with dating, right? Sure, you have a good job and cool friends, but you just aren't sure how to flirt, the apps don't work for you, and sometimes women put you in the friend zone. It's frustrating. Hey, I struggled with dating too. As an introvert and a total nerd, I didn't just live in the friend zone I owned real estate there, but I escaped using the dating philosophy of radical authenticity Which I've used to help thousands of men in 17 countries find love
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Starting point is 00:23:31 free call today and let my personalized coaching help you get a great girlfriend. There's one other tip I wanted to ask you to talk a little bit about from that 10 Rapid Ways book, which is a free, instant, great download on your website. You talk about the importance of breaking patterns, conversation patterns with women on first dates or in those first conversations. And instead of asking cliched questions like, oh, how long have you been at your job? Or what do you like about what you do to break the pattern and ask questions like, if you had a zero chance of failure, what would you love to do most in the world?
Starting point is 00:24:07 Can you talk about why we wanna break patterns, why men wanna break patterns with women in terms of those early conversations on a date? Well, because women have been on so many dates and what they do is women like to categorize men. And if the man is asking the same kind of tired, unimaginative questions that all the other guys have been asking then she's not gonna be on her toes she's gonna be
Starting point is 00:24:29 in you know I call it autopilot mode where she's not making the effort because she's kind of already been through that she's gone through the motions and she's already kind of got the outcome of how it's gonna end oh he's gonna ask me this now and his his response is going to be A, B and C. So it becomes predictable. Women like excitement. They like excitement more than men do. Okay, men don't want a headache. Men want someone nice, calm and compliant. Women want excitement much more than men. And it has to be, they have to feel stimulated emotionally and mentally. That doesn't mean you have to have this very serious
Starting point is 00:25:06 highfalutin conversation about something that's very deep. No, I don't mean that, but it just means about making her, forcing her to have to think, forcing her, if she has to think, it means she has to invest. If she's investing, it means that she's trying to impress you on some level. So it's very much pattern breaking is not just about asking an interesting question,
Starting point is 00:25:27 it's about your interesting responses. So we could take a very, you know, two things that are always gonna come up in conversation is where you're from and what you do. So we know that those two questions are gonna come up and I'm not telling anyone that they shouldn't be asking those questions. But it's very easy for those questions to end up in a boring conversation. So let's say like most of my students work
Starting point is 00:25:49 in IT. The first thing will be like, what do you do? He says, IT and she will just give a very polite, unimaginative response, which is like, Oh, you know, do you like it? And most of the time the guy will go, yeah, it's okay. Or, it's all right. You know, and that's it. That's already the conversation's gone shh. But if he turned around and just said, you know what, I love it and I hate it, immediately she's curious.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Because people don't answer like that. It's an unusual answer. It's not a weird, crazy, you know, fucked up answer. We don't want those. It's just a little bit unusual. And it's going to just reel her in her curiosity. Oh, what do you mean? Like, what do you love and hate about it? And then from there, the guy can start talking about things which have nothing to do with his job. You know, I love it because I get to do A, B, and C, and that's a reflection then of something that's positive about him. But I hate it because this is what I really wanna do. This is what I'm super passionate about. So we're already taking it from IT,
Starting point is 00:26:56 which no one really wants to talk about, to this fun, interesting information, this high value data about myself. Kezia, I love that answer, but I also hated it. A little bit of both. Why did you hate it? You see it immediately. I want to know why you hate it. Okay, that's a lie. I actually loved it. I loved it because it's very similar to something I coach. I do a little exercise with my guys. I call it the love hate cafe. We imagine we're sitting in a cafe or they're sitting in a cafe with a woman. And whatever topic that comes up,
Starting point is 00:27:27 they have to tell that woman why they both love and hate that thing. So that paradox is two contrasting emotions, love and hate, so opposite, right? When you put them together, to your point, it creates something interesting that a woman's not expecting to hear. And it's also honest.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Most people don't love everything about their job or hate everything about their job. Life is nuanced. And it's also emotional. Loving and hating is more interesting than informational exchanges about what you do. People- Yeah, it is unfiltered.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And that's very important because women want to have that very authentic, unfiltered conversation with a man. And it just shows that he's just, that's his truth and it's unapologetic for it. Well, you just said the magic word for me. I'm all about authenticity and helping a man channel that real raw self.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Can you talk a little bit from your point of view, why, if and how rawness, realness, authenticity, why does that work in dating or how can it work? I think it's important. Okay, so I do show guys how to bring their more appealing qualities forward and some of the less appealing qualities like keep them in the back burner.
Starting point is 00:28:43 But that's more things such as, not like personal achievements and things. Like maybe they haven't achieved a lot in their life. Maybe they're still living at home with their parents. I don't say to them that you've got to cover that. It's more that you've got, because that's you, that's your reality, that's the position you're in. It's how you communicate it.
Starting point is 00:29:01 So if you do anything with shame or embarrassment, then that's going to translate as I'm an ashamed person, I'm embarrassed, I'm not happy, and all these these are the things that women don't find attractive in a man. But if you said for instance, yeah I don't really have a very good job, but I've chosen that because I don't want to be on the rat race like everybody else. I look at everybody else every day, getting on the train, stuck in a little office. No way, not for me. Now she might think again on paper, yeah, well that guy going in on the train every
Starting point is 00:29:42 day, he's, you know, he's got drive, he's, he's going somewhere and you're just slobbing about. Sure, sure, she might think that. However, she will not think that you're ashamed or that you are trying to sort of like, get in her good books, tell her what she wants to hear. So you have that pride. And that can work And that can work. That can work more than the guy who's doing all the right stuff, but he's deeply unhappy and he's insecure and all the rest of the stuff. It's better to have both of those things, but if you aren't, I don't say to guys, oh, pretend you've got a fancy job. Just tell them, like I sit down with them and go, why are you doing this dead end job? Why like what's
Starting point is 00:30:25 the reason for it? And a lot of the time they come up with a pretty good reason which is I don't want to be a slave to work. I said well that's beautiful that's interesting that's wow okay so you're a bit of like one of those kind of guys okay sell it let's do it you know don't be ashamed of it. So I'm that's the way that I try and get them to be authentic. I love that. Yeah, well, talking about, oh, I don't want to be a slave to the rat race. So I do XYZ because I'm about freedom. I'm about being attractive way to talk about why you don't have a boring job. To me, it's all about emotional conversation that's genuine, but also compelling to that woman.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Yeah. And it's very important to always tap into the woman's emotional buying motives rather than her rational buying motives. So again, yes, as you said, speaking with emotional language works better with women. They're not, for them, lust and attraction is not rational at all. It's purely emotional. So yeah, I agree. Just tap into the emotional narrative. Earlier you mentioned how looks don't really matter that much or they're way overrated.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Talk a little bit about how important looks are or aren't to women in terms of a guy getting a great girlfriend having a great dating life. So looks, a good looking guy has to do less at the beginning, way less than a less good looking guy. Just a caveat, though, a lot of good looking guys doesn't mean that it's going to be every woman's type. doesn't mean that it's gonna be every woman's type. Suddenly I've seen some men and the women are just, oh, he's so good looking. I'm like, I don't know what I'm looking at here. Like, have I missed something?
Starting point is 00:32:10 So that does happen just to put that little caveat in. But let's just take like the average, very good looking guy that appeals to most women. He has to do so much less and he will get away with so much more. I'm sorry to say that guys, that's the truth. However, he doesn't have the same length of time to make a mistake like a beautiful woman has. Okay, he has maybe
Starting point is 00:32:33 five, 10, let's just say five minutes he has to ride on his looks, ride that wave. Beautiful woman can ride on that wave for months. And just be a total bitch and not have anything interesting to say because men are much more governed by how a woman looks. So yes, it's important, but I don't want men to internalize this and see it from their point of view as, oh, but a beautiful woman, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:00 can get away with everything. Yeah, not a beautiful man. So looks are important But what's more important and how the man makes her feel I'm a man recently I swear not my type at all. I wouldn't say he's good-looking let alone like not my type and I'm thinking about him now. He's got a little bit stuck in my head That's what happens with women. You get in their heads, you know, and it's an emotional feeling because male desire and female desire just operate
Starting point is 00:33:31 completely differently, completely differently. And so that's something I teach obviously to understand how female desire works. No, I totally get it. I mean, I'm not bad looking, but I basically look like Ron Weasley's brother or the lead singer from Weezer. But I can get it. I mean, I'm not bad looking, but I basically look like Ron Weasley's brother or the lead singer from Weezer. But I can get in a woman's head in a way that makes her feel really good. And she'll look at me like I'm Brad Pitt, even though I'm not. Yeah, I get into a man's head. I get these young guys and they like ask me out. And then, you know, during the day, I realized they've all got this thing in common, which is they've all got a crush on Jennifer Aniston.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Oh, we're here again, are we? Yeah, and not when she's in friends how she is now like, oh, my Oh, great. You get the Jennifer Aniston thing. So men are very visual. They'll go on a date with me because I kind of look like Jennifer Aniston a bit. Right. I get the Prince Harry thing every now and then. Oh yeah. I go, oh you're like Prince Harry. I'm like yeah, I'm like a very poor Prince Harry compared to him. But I'll take it. I'll take any edge I can get. If it works, it works, right? Absolutely. If it works, it works.
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Starting point is 00:35:44 Your YouTube channel has some really great videos. your flirty 30. A lot of guys come to me today in 2024 in the Me Too era, and they say, oh, I can't approach girls. It's creepy, it's wrong, it's weird, I can't do it. I assume you have a different viewpoint on that. Is it okay to approach women? And if so, what's the right way to do it? It's 100% okay to approach a woman. We've been doing this now since 2006, which is before the Me Too movement
Starting point is 00:36:26 and hashtag Me Too movement after that. You know, we've never, the most we've ever had is a girl say, I'm not interested. No slapping in the face, no calling the police, no running down the streets screaming, nothing like this. Just literally, sorry, not interested. And we even know things to say to make them interested if they say I'm not interested. So no, I think in fact, it's gone the other way. Women are absolutely dying to meet men this way. They're sick of
Starting point is 00:36:57 dating apps. My sister and her friend in their early thirties, they're going to an event called I Hate Dating Apps. They've quit. I going to an event called I hate dating apps. They quit. I'm like, everyone's quitting the dating apps. They have had enough of them. They are horrible things, these dating apps. And they're all wanting that story of, Hey, you know, I met this guy, he just approached me in the park. They want that story more now than ever, because during the pandemic, it reached breaking point, the dating apps and Zoom.
Starting point is 00:37:26 I mean, we're doing Zoom now, it's very useful, but everything was on Zoom, everything was online, and it just hit like peak, I can't do this anymore. And people are just looking for those organic ways to meet people now, 100%. This is the best time, actually. This is the best time since dating apps came out, I would say. I agree with you a million percent that this is the best time to approach women because
Starting point is 00:37:51 if you're the 800th guy who swipes right on her on Tinder or Hinge, she won't even see your profile. If you're that one guy who charmingly comes up to her and chats and has some good game, oh my God, you're going to give her that rom-com movie moment. Especially you've got more chance if you're not good looking. If you're a good looking guy on the apps, when I say good looking, I'm talking about the top 5% here. Yeah, you'll clean up. You'll clean up. But if you're below average or average even, forget it. It's much better to go to approach woman because there's so much more she can understand about you
Starting point is 00:38:28 from the approach. A lot of the guys that I've dated, my first impression of them wasn't great. And then after a few minutes, I was like, oh, okay, things have changed now. And also if I'd seen a photograph of them online, I would never have agreed to go on a date with them. Really not my type.
Starting point is 00:38:45 But it was just like the way that they operated the room, the way they spoke to me, made me feel, the way they ordered the drinks, the aftershave they were wearing. Human beings are multi-dimensional, so is attraction. And it's all being reduced to a photograph. And a photograph that's not even accurate likeness of us anymore.
Starting point is 00:39:05 None of us look like our photos. Do you remember like in the old days when we had bad photos and we had to say to the other person, look, they look better than their photo. We were setting up people with dates because we all took bad photographs. Now you have to sit there and go, look, okay, she or he doesn't quite look like that photograph. So it's already like you're starting from a down point,
Starting point is 00:39:24 you know, like a minus because you meet the person's like, oh, you're 10 times bigger than you said you are 10 times older or whatever it is, you know. Okay, let's part. Speaking of finishing strong, let's finish strong with a parting tip. Earlier, I teased a powerful insight. It could be about approaching, it could be about mindset, it could be anything that you think the introverted nice guy listening to this episode should know about women or approaching or dating. What is your parting tip for our listener? I'm stuck between two but I'm gonna go for one because I did mention about like if a woman says I'm not interested what to say. Yeah what do you say when she says that? So let's, and we've been doing this for ages
Starting point is 00:40:05 and it's had really good response rate. So let's say you see two women and they're chatting in a bar and you approach them and they're like, and she goes, no, no thank you, we're talking. Rather than just walking off, like feeling sorry for yourself, or apologizing, or being aggressive,
Starting point is 00:40:22 just say, no problem, I just wanted to come over and say, I think you're absolutely stunning. Have a beautiful night and then walk away. Because you've taken that moment to flip it and show her what she's missing. So you have to say this with regal confidence, regal confidence. She's not expecting you to respond like that,
Starting point is 00:40:44 first of all, so that makes her go, huh? And secondly, you're showing how confident you are, and she's watching this thinking, oh shit, oh shit, this one's going now. And then she sees you operating the rest of the room, talking to people. You don't go back to her. Don't ever go back to her. She has a very high chance of coming back to you. She'll either smile, look at you or she might even as you're leaving say, Oh, I'm sorry, I was a bit rude. Come join us. So that's a good little trick guys. That's fantastic. I did that once not knowing. I probably got it from you 15 years ago, but
Starting point is 00:41:18 I did that once five minutes after I said, okay, fine. Have a good night. You're beautiful. Tap tap half of my shoulder and she came back and all of a sudden it was on. So thank you. Okay. Okay. If a man listening to this would like to work with you or learn more about you or take a program, I understand you do training in London. I understand you, a man can work with you or your team from home. How can people work with you or learn more about you? Yeah, just go to the website, kesia-noble.com, you'll find out more information about my seven day mastery program and my online acceleration home training program. And everything is one on one. We don't do boot camps or anything. So it's going to be you, me, or you and the coach, just one-on-one. And yeah, check out all the testimonials we've received over the years. And you'll find like at least one of them will resonate with you personally,
Starting point is 00:42:13 because we've just helped hundreds of men from across the globe, a range of different sticking points and from different cultural backgrounds and age groups. So yeah, that's my website, check it out. Do you still offer training in London, which would happen in London? Yes, I do. Great, I recommend that because I once took a training course in London,
Starting point is 00:42:35 not with you, but I took a training course there. It was such a great experience being in London, British accents, oh my gosh, I fell in love so many times. So working on this in London, British accents. Oh my gosh, I fell in love so many times. So working on this in London is a great option if you are able to travel. Okay, thank you, Kezia, so much for being here. You were fantastic.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Thank you, Brian. Yeah, by the way, if you liked this episode, please leave me a review or share it with a guy who needs a boost of dating help. And if you didn't love this episode, leave me some feedback or tell me why you loved and hated it just like Kezia told us to talk about loving and hating. Anyway, thank you for listening
Starting point is 00:43:12 and remember your dream girlfriend, she's out there. She's gonna love you. She just has to meet the real authentic you. So go take authentic action, Carpe Datum, seize the date. See you next time.

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