How We Got Away with Murder - 112: She's a Murderder

Episode Date: June 4, 2026

One host is sneezing through allergy season, the other just wrapped a family visit, and Sam's remains have been found in a landfill, so let's get into it. Annalise is clinging to her mob case for dear life, Hannah is on a mission, and Asher finally gets brought into the fold. Also, Matt is just now finding out that Bonnie is a lawyer. Just now. On the podcast, Matt and Jack dig into the classroom becoming a masterclass in 5th amendment rights for the Keating 4, the great Connor and Asher energy this episode, the bumps (foliage in winter, murder discussed openly, Laurel using a burner phone out in the wild), and the behind the scenes of how the courtroom set works. Plus spit buckets and how eating scenes actually get filmed. They try to work out the case of the week IRL (lawyers, please chime in the comments), marvel at the Annalise incest line, and get into Viola cracking everyone up trying to say a character's last name on set. Until next week! We want to hear from you! Send us your show and episode questions with the chance to be read on the air during an episode: [e-mail] Matt & JackIG @jackfalaheeTIKTOK @jackfalahee X @RestingPlatypus REDDIT u/ItsMeJackFalaheeIG @mattmcgorry TIKTOK @matt.mcgorry X @MattMcGorry Facebook: @ActorMattMcGorryThank you to our sponsors:Hero Bread: This year, hit your goals without giving up your favorite bready dishes. Hero Bread is offering 10% off your order. Go to hero.co and use code JACKANDMATT at checkout.Omaha Steaks: Go to OmahaSteaks.com and use promo code JACKANDMATT at checkout for $35 off. Minimum purchase may apply.This podcast is brought to you by Podcast Nation.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

hey everyone my name is matt mccorry and i played the character asher millstone on how to get away with murder and i'm jack fallahy and i played connor walsh on that very same tv show and this is the how we got away with murder podcast hey podcast friend hello podcast friend how art thou Oh, I'm okay. It's a, it's a mixed feeling sort of day. Yeah. Yeah. And the allergies have been hard for allergies. Wanting to rend my eyes in the language of King Lear, I believe. Sure. The itchiness of them. Yeah. Really, really good poll, the King Lear. I, sorry to hear that. I've never experienced allergies, so I'm not familiar. It's not, it's not great but it lasts for a short amount of time and i think because i'm wearing my mask

everywhere it's not like most of my my holes my permeable holes but my eye my ocular holes are you know are uh yeah definitely getting inflamed how you doing i'm pretty good yeah my family was just in town it was really nice to see them saw my brothers and my folks the fallah he's the fallah clan and yeah i've been enjoying this like there's this big magnolia tree in my backyard that that i was like watching bloom beautifully and then all they all fell off and that made me sad but that such is life is that because of the change in temperature like the climate no i think that they just i think that they flower really early in the spring and then they just like they shed all of their petals and now it's just like a big green old tree so it's it's doing what

it's supposed to be doing right it's just early bloomers yeah yeah whereas i was a late bloomer sure sure and yeah i i like this this like it kind of cooled down it was like really hot for a couple days and now it's kind of nice it's like spring jacket weather which true i you know i love a jacket I know. I know that. I like a jacket as well. I do. Yeah. Hey, have you ever heard of the show How to Get Away with Murder? No. Well, do you want to recap it today? Yeah. Yeah. Let's recap it. How to get away with murder. How to get away with murder. Great. Things are heating up in the season we are recapping today episode 12 of season one she's a murderer

it's directed by bill dalia our producing director and written by erica harrison it aired on february 12 2015 we started shooting it on november 25th 2014 so we're about three months ahead of air airing right november which gives them a lot of time to you know edit and reshoot if you have to i don't really remember us reshooting that often but sometimes shows do reshoot yeah and yeah i mean there's obviously a lot that goes into post which we should talk about at some point okay this episode we have i'm gonna i'm trying something new where I'm going to read the guest stars at the top of the episode so that we

give everyone their flowers. A little experimenting, yeah. So we have Peter Onorati is playing Leo Lombardo. Michael McGrady is playing A-U-S-A Hobbs. We have Carl Mackinnon playing Paul Lombardo.

April Parker-Jones playing Detective Claire Bryce. Hector Bustamante playing Pedro Hortua. And Marcia Gay Harden is playing Hannah Keating. matt hit us with the log line with sam's body found in a landfill hannah storms in demanding answers and pushes police to search annalise's home a terrifying search for the keating four that ultimately turns up nothing bonnie starts putting the pieces together on her own west grows

more suspicious of rebecca and a shocking arrest closes out the episode nailed it nailed it all right and just to remind everyone we guessed the titular line you guessed hannah and i guessed bonnie we are going to dive in and see who was right and who's a loser and who's a loser yeah yeah yeah stay tuned to find out who's a big being within an inch of their life yeah this is how we do it every time actually yeah we have a third party yeah this podcast is life life yeah exactly yeah it keeps the stakes high yeah makes it feel like we're back on the show again that's right So we jump right in and we are reminded that Hannah believes Sam is not a murderer.

We are reminded that Wes has this Christmas card for Rudy that he will not let go of for whatever reason. Michaela's engagement ring is missing and Sam Keating's remains have been found. Ooh, boy. We jump into Wes's apartment. He is watching the news. Connor is also there.

I think the crew's there. Connor thinks Annalise is setting them up. He, you know, says, you don't just find body parts in a landfill. It's a good point, honestly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is a good point. I had to think about it while I was watching.

I was like, do they just find body parts in a landfill? I don't, I guess not. In individual bags? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Like, do they have, are they screening for body parts? Right, body detectors. Right. They just have dogs running around landfills, like cadaver dogs.

He thinks that Annalise told the authorities where to look. And Rebecca says, you know, this wouldn't be happening if we'd all listened to Wes, which is a fair point. Wes doesn't think Annalise would sell them out. And Connor hits them with this great line, we know wait lists, you suckle at the teat of our dear old professor. Which I remember, I remember reading that in the table read and really liking that. I thought it was a good sort of snarky line from, from Connor. Um,

and then Rebecca, I think very smartly kind of level headed is like, even if, even if you guys were implicated in some way, like they're going to go, they're going to try and take down Annalise, not you guys. Right.

Totally. You know, the random lost. She's, she's the big fish to fry. Yeah. Bigger fish is tastier. Yeah.

Yeah. More to eat. More to eat. More to eat. See, this is the point where i want to mention one of our sponsors but i also recognize that like our sponsors change throughout like like as we're recording this we this the sponsors that we have this episode might in a few months be different so you know i realized we did this we we we called

out a previous sponsor once we named them in our in our just general recording and i was like oh people are going to be like what the fuck are they talking about sometime in the future when right it's been five years since we've had that sponsor yeah in 19 years that product no longer even exists right um okay we go to the second scene of the show frank is driving i like seeing frank drive yeah you know i think he i think charlie looks good driving i think he should do car commercials yeah laurel calls him and he is like immediately aggro saying she can't be calling him from now on they are going to be under a microscope everything they do which i think really sets up the stakes of the show going forward and like in a way that i think is

tricky as a show to maintain this level of sort of like diesel energy where you know what i mean yeah i mean it's kind of insane where it's like everything we do is gonna be under scrutiny and i'm like for the rest of the show right but it kind of makes sense doesn't it i mean what else you know what else of course totally i mean even makes me wonder if you should be saying that over the phone right or if you should just be giving a signal of like you know i can't talk right now i'm gonna text you later on signal or whatever the how to get a murder equivalent of the app would be you know um yeah i was kind of curious i mean i guess at this point in time there were encrypted messaging apps already right right yeah for sure yeah yeah

yeah yeah 100 i just felt like weird to be like on on one specific call be like we can't talk about murder on phone calls on the phone call you know yeah yeah but i get it i didn't know yeah totally i mean we we do cross this bridge soon and it's it is not an encrypted messaging app because watching people text on television is not entertaining but we we do come up with this all pretty quickly so true laurel arrives to west's apartment tells the others that frank says they're being watched and that we because of that can't call annalise um everyone does a really good job of building tension here by the way it's like yeah really i'm feeling the stress of it um yeah i i actually noticed that throughout the episode where like it feels like uh we're

doing a lot of like uh tension in our body yeah yeah like everyone i don't know west does some of that that i'll flag later in the episode that i thought was really cool of him like i feel like elfie's such a like attention free person you know yeah so when i see tension in west i'm like oh wow that's good acting yeah he's doing it yeah he's doing it yeah we cut from there to the cops are knocking at the door of ak's and the police uh hannah walks up so they're both there and the Please tell Annalise and Hannah that they found Sam's remains. And it took them a couple days to tell them because they needed a positive ID.

And luckily, they had his DNA on file for the Lila Stangard case. So I guess they didn't even need to ask Annalise about that. Frank shows up. He's kind of like running to the house, I'm presumably to just be there for Annalise. He's thinking about whether he should kill the cops and Hannah. Yeah, exactly.

Anyway, Hannah, I mean, she goes in right here where she has this great arrest her. She killed him. She tried to hide it. She's the murderer. Arrest her. She's a murderer. She killed my brother, which is the title of the episode.

Yeah, that's true. which um saves me from being uh beaten i will be being this way into my life yeah no yeah shout out to tony um yeah is this is the first time we learned that this is like her childhood and sam's childhood house i'm not sure if it is if we heard it maybe once before but this is the first time like sticks in my head i'm like yeah i think that's right okay yeah it's always it's fun like that when you just like one like word or like you know one sentence just changes the context sort of of things a bit you know totally there was such like pleasantness in the last episode of like the best christmas ever you know there's the family stuff so it feels like really painful

cervical bulging whiplash you know to like go from that to like you know like her screaming like arrest her on the you know it's like very it gives me a lot of stress it's making me wonder if if if like some one of the recurring nightmares i have is somewhat related to like uh just the like trying to put myself in the position of like this like keeping the secret like i hate keeping secrets like it's oh really yeah i really hate that um it feels so stressful to me yeah yeah i i actually think about that all the time because because of i mean i guess it was helpful in playing connor but because of how anxious I am, I'm like, I would never be able to keep the secret of committing a crime like this. Like I, I just look, I wouldn't be able to live with it.

Yeah. Like I would immediately go down to the place and be like, it was me. You got me. Right. Right. Even if it wasn't you, you just throw yourself under so you don't have anxiety. Yeah. They're like, sir, we had no leads. Right. No idea it was you. Thank you for coming in. That's right. Same as missing. Yeah, exactly. Right. Right. Good. All right. I mean, we go right from there to the title it's just such a good way uh to start to tee up this episode and then from there we go to nate is calling annalise from home nate does a lot of phone calls on this episode yeah she is walking across campus usc right yeah and yeah you suggest the burner phone and and he suggests the burner phone i'm glad someone suggested it yeah yeah yeah also

like a crazy um like i think it's interesting that they have nate suggest it and it's not like like frank just like handing out burners to like everyone in the crew immediately given that frank is like you know this chameleon criminal type yeah but uh but i like it coming from nate because it shows like he's trying to protect annalise and be helpful and right you know yeah um and we We filmed these exteriors at USC, University of Southern California. That's right. The detective confronts Annalise for not looking upset, presumably, that her husband is dead. Yes.

Which is interesting. And AK says, you know, you're not going to arrest me because you're going to arrest me because the grief doesn't look the way you think it should. It does feel bold that Annalise is not pretending to be upset in a specific way. But also, yeah, I just wonder what made the writers make that decision. Yeah. It's a powerful move, though, too, because you're just, like, if you understand the law in a way, I guess, like, that can't be the thing. She probably knows she's going to be a suspect regardless, you know? I kind of was scratching my head about that throughout the entire episode.

Like, I'm really—I think it's really engaging, and it's a cool choice, and so I'm interested to see how it, like, continues to play out. I think that they, like, often would take swings in writing like that because they knew that Viola could play anything. Yeah. So I wonder if there's some of that to it too, where they're like, let's do the more daring choice, you know, because Viola is going to make it work no matter what. Right. We'll be right back. Now back to class. We go from, you know, she's walking across campus to go to class.

We have Miss Chapin played by Ellen Hahn, who is getting grilled by, I guess, our substitute professor. Yeah. Which I thought was interesting. I was like, do they have substitute professors in law school? i think like you just wouldn't have class but ellen she is so funny here um and you know she's like she was like a background artist like day player would like she'd get lines here or there but like you you'll see as the show goes on they would give her and a couple of the other um actors playing students more and more lines because she just always knocked them out of the park

yeah for really good stuff shout out to you ellen shout out ellen i saw her in one of the spider-man movies and she absolutely crushed oh sick it's yeah so it seems like i guess the dean thought that annalise given the recent news wouldn't be coming in to teach but annalise says i'm here you are mistaken and we start to learn about the fifth amendment whatever you say to the police can and will be used against you when in doubt shut your mouth um and this is just a great example of like Annalise using like speaking in code where she's using like the classroom lesson as a as a vehicle to teach the Keating for what they need to know to weather the storm yeah this this bumped a little bit for me to use your language I've never said that word before um or I've never said it in this

context I have said you've never said bumped before yeah I've never said you've never said bumped in your life yeah the speed the speed mounds as I call them when you're driving yeah sure yeah um but it seems kind of bold i mean we can reasonably assume that ak will be considered a suspect even if it's because her husband was cheating on her and then died right like that's like something they always like yeah consider a domestic partner yeah right and then the the yeah i mean even sure when she said she's like i bet it's the boyfriend right when it was like about sam about how lilo is dead right right but i just feel like if the i don't know if the if any of the law students in the classroom are going to be like you know like hmm is anything fishy here

i feel like being like oh her husband was murdered and now she's talking about like how to not self-incriminate yourself like i don't know i mean i guess the class is how to get away with murder before she was complicit in murder but yeah but i mean i mean the biggest bump for me is like the mid-season finale when they take the exam and it's like it's literally the murder night the final is is the exact uh you know is murder night where i'm like if she gets subpoenaed and they like look at what was the oral exam it's just like oh that's exactly what happened right i guess yeah that's true i mean this feels especially so just because it's like literally everyone in the class knows that she's a suspect now yeah that's right yeah

that's right yeah i hear what you're saying so i don't want one person to be like hmm interesting yeah don't talk to the police the person sitting next to connor just looking at him you know freaking out yeah yeah exactly connor biting his nails and the kids like um i really i also it does actually now that i think about it i feel like the other students in the class would definitely ask the the kidding for about it too right because they'd be like whoa fucking the guy that is in the house that you're always in yeah oh dead i mean this would be this would be like the biggest story on campus right right you know yeah yeah interesting so we i i i always wondered about that we're like obviously it's hard with just like the number of you know

we had a lot of series regulars on the show there were like 12 of us or something so it was always hard to bring in like other students but we do see that in later seasons yeah where we start to see like the, the campus dynamic build out a little bit more, but it's like, they have so many balls in the air that it's like, how are they going to bring in like, you know, a student to question them. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, we cut from there to Bonnie crying in the kitchen. She's dropped the glass. And at first I was like, Oh, don't cry. You don't need to cry over spilled milk but that of course is not why she's crying she is she is upset you know frank comes in and she's really upset that no one called bonnie to tell her about sam she had to see it on the news

which is so fucked up and she's worried that annalise doesn't trust her anymore and frank is pretty like uh i don't know cold about how he is giving her care like he does not he doesn't care yeah and the definition of cold comfort cold comfort and basically says you know stop crying or she'll fire you again if she sees you like this which that feels like suspicious too when he's just like telling bonnie that she shouldn't care that sam is dead like to me that feels like a little suspicious yeah yeah exactly and like i still don't know what frank and bonnie's relationship is right you know what i mean like i asked a couple episodes i was like are they like getting beers after work and like the way that he cares for laurel later in this episode versus

not caring at all about presumably someone he's worked with for a very long time is yeah is interesting to me totally anyway annalise comes back the police are posted outside you know she's pissed off that the police are outside and they're they of course are saying that they're protecting you know them from press and looky looky lose uh she tells frank to take care of that and then bonnie tells annalise that leo lombardo their client maybe doesn't want to work with annalise given the recent news and then we immediately cut to a very cool exterior uh shipping container cargo ship and i yeah i'm like i was questioning i'm like i wonder where we buy these I wonder what this is from. We immediately go into sort of like this, you know, shipping dock

warehouse type vibe. And Annalise, she's like, real, real intense from the get go. You are not firing me. We have Mr. Lombardo and his nephew, Paul Lombardo. And it's like pretty clear that they're like criminals, that they're like, they're part of a, you know, maybe a crime family of sorts. And that, uh, the nephew has been caught allegedly transporting heroin. I think heroin, drug smuggling. I think it's heroin though. And she has this great, just like really strong plea to have them retain her as a client. And I kind of was scratching my head a little bit about why she cares so much.

But I think it's a really strong argument for Annalise's identity is her being this attorney. And it's where she derives identity, meaning, power, all of those things. And, yeah, I get that, like, in this context that feels probably very out of control, she wants, like, this thing that she's very good at to remain in her control. Yeah. I also imagine, I mean, she's probably going to represent herself, I imagine. But, I don't know, you know, I feel like entering into, like, an investigation like this, you want to have resources, you know?

I love that I have no idea if Annalise goes on trial. Yeah, I know. I can't remember at all. And then I'm like, does she represent herself? Or do we bring in like a cool guest star? Right. Have we ever seen Annalise on the stand? I don't think so.

If we have. If I was in a courtroom where Annalise was on the stand, that has been fully deleted from my memory. Right. I love too that just like learning lines for Death of a Salesman, I'm just like, oh, I'm just deleting. Like, any remnants of memories were just completely cleared out. Okay, we go from there to Hannah Keating is talking to Detective Bryce,

trying to convince the detective that Annalise is lying about the night of Sam's death and that Nate must have helped Annalise dispose of the body. Just catching strays, this man. Like, Hannah doesn't know anything about Nate. Yeah, she's just throwing it out there. I mean, she knew about, I guess, the affair. I guess she knows the affair, but like, it is a pretty, not a great look for Hannah Keating to just like blame it on that guy. Yeah.

And I think it plants a seed a little bit for something that happens later too, I think. Yes. A hundred percent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the big revelation in this scene is that Hannah tells the detective that Annalise comes from a violent home. Right. which makes the detective pause but you know says it's obviously not enough to get a warrant hannah then kind of like barges into their into the detective's office yeah and we see all these

very gross photos of sam's remains terrifying like terrifying horrible i still can't believe we can show this stuff on tv i forgot about what are we doing but it's definitely seared into my memory now like seeing his charred face with his teeth you know like gross i looked away yeah it made me think a little differently of the keating four as well yeah i was like for sure set his body on fire and broke oh i'm like that i i saw that and i was like oh they'd be way more fucked up right now i was gonna say yeah i was like instead of doing all the fucking having all the acting work that you need to they could have just shown you those photos this is what you're this is what you've done that night yeah yeah literally like this is what you

did you monster yeah disturbing yeah totally but it is this is a good example though where it's like we would never have seen those right like i'm not in the scene like you know what i mean like me i'm sure we see them later at some point like maybe um but like up into this point it's like that's art department like you know what i mean like we're not we don't see that stuff this may be a silly question but do we know why she's so convinced it's annalise hannah yeah no i mean like i think that they've been trying to like pepper in this like they love each other but like annalise thinks that hannah never really loved her or like wasn't pleased about sam marrying annalise you know like i think that there's just like some

some drama distrust lore that we're we're gonna get into i think right okay and sorry the planting of the seed of of like annalise's home life the violent home quote unquote is also planting a seed for like something that happens like at the very end of the episode yeah definitely and and it's like yes a hundred percent hannah obviously as the character is just trying to weaponize like anything she can to get them to look into annalise but it's smart writing that it then like yeah opens some doors at the end of the episode for sure her cut says like weaponizing her psychology like uh degree as a therapist or very deep yeah like yeah yeah for sure yeah yeah we we poppy pop to connor breaking up the body and like the students disposing the reins yeah it definitely

made me think worse of yeah the keating uh for and when she realizes when hannah realizes that the violent home isn't enough to tip the scales pun intended uh she says what if what if annalee's threaten sam's life i'll testify to whatever you need me to search the house which you know is basically implying that like she she she would like lie on the stand right right which is not great for her credibility yeah a crazy thing to say to the detective yeah but sure sure so then we cut to annalise's house the uh where you know she's pitching the lombardo case connor is very surprised we're taking on new clients which is a good a good thing to call out because the audience would also probably be like really yeah totally um and then asher you hit us with this incredible

brando impression which i love so much i mean you even did like the like him having like the cotton balls right in his mouth when he did it and stroking the cat as like my ipad or whatever my tablet yeah i feel i totally forgot about this it feels like for this role i got to just make use of like every weird like impression physical movement sound effect that i could do just like in the service of like being a court jester but it was really fun yeah you do that incredible impression and annalise wants us to check into the chain of custody to get our italians off and then we intercut with a montage um we immediately go to asher and frank which i love love seeing asher and frank together that was fun and asher asher asked if frank is connected

And, you know, for you guys, it's great if I tell you, you can't tell the others. Right. Asher's clearly eating it all up. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Yeah. You know, he's one of those frat bros whose favorite movie is like The Godfather. He had that on his like dorm wall.

He had like the Scarface poster. Yeah. So, and they're looking at like security camera footage of the docks. And then we go back to Annalise who says the container failed a random weigh-in. So, the question is, why did the feds pick that container out of the thousands of ships? So then we go to Connor and Michaela. Connor, you know, is like, hey, dummy, we gotta, we gotta get your ring. Like that's gonna, you know, that's gonna screw us. Right. But Michaela thinks Connor's the dummy because you do not return to the scene of the crime. That is like rule number one of crimes. Yeah, I guess. True, true. And rule number two of crimes is don't talk about crimes at US government offices, which really bumps for me too. Yeah, that is not adhered to by pretty much anyone. There's multiple times this episode where it seems like simply by luck, a person happens upon the conversation at a perfect moment where they wouldn't overhear anything, but it's nothing but pure luck.

Yeah. So they are literally in the U.S. Customs and Immigration Office talking to this agent about trying to determine if the weigh-in was actually random. And the whole time I was like, they wouldn't, they wouldn't take this meeting. Why would they, why would they let law students into like answer their questions about a, you know, ongoing investigation? Well, I was wondering, I mean, I guess if they're, if they're like technical representatives of, of Annalise Keating, right. And the client, I could see why the question for me more was like, like, it seems like the whole premise of this case is, is based on the fact that Annalise is saying that it was, this search was not random, but does that make it a problem? Like, aren't they allowed to search anything they want to as like customers? So what is the, so what is the, what is the thing? I think the thing is that if it wasn't random, they're trying to figure out like how they knew. Like if it wasn't random, then it would mean that it was like a targeted search based on information. So I think we see it later in the episode where she's like, oh, it wasn't random. There was there was a, you know, a criminal informant. There was a C.I.

Right. But that's not inherently illegal. that's inherently illegal for customs to be doing yeah no I don't know yeah like I guess it's it's entrapment is what

she says maybe I wonder I don't know yeah okay beats me chime in the comments if you're a lawyer I do think it's interesting though I mean this just shows you how little I learned about

law but like that I like that Michaela's like so we're just to believe that this was random and the agent's like yes right and then we're like all right right so then we go from there that dead end to Annalise saying look at the personnel at the yard who had motive to take our client down and then Wes and Laurel are meant to be doing that but Wes is just fixated on Rudy he's not working the case at all he is just obsessed he is a dog with a bone um so he's clearly losing his mind right right and there's still 600 kilos i think of heroin or something like that in the shipping container i don't know i just don't get it yeah um laurel and west here laurel mentions pedro hortua which

which who's the person who searched the client's uh container and this immediately brought back some hilarious memories that we'll talk about yeah okay going back for a quick moment i feel like i feel like the equivalent of like the storage container thing is like if if in response to sam's body being found in the garbage bags and elise's defense was like yeah but how did they find it and like hoping that proving that that like someone was tipped off would somehow mean that the murder wasn't the most important thing that happens you know i'm saying well i think that i think that is how people get off for murder sometimes it's like chain of custody of evidence like that's what they're doing right now with uh right with what's his name okay so she she's

trying to she's trying to prove that there's she has an inkling that there's like some falsifying of something or something is is like illegal yeah like if they like if they got like a i mean i don't i don't know enough about like shipping searches or you know whatever but like i i guess in in the context of the episode it's like well if like the the dea or whoever it is that's like raiding their business obtained information somehow illegally then like the warrant maybe wouldn't be valid or you know what i mean right i guess it's just because i just don't imagine they would need a warrant to search something i just feel like i don't know as far as i know ordering things that have to go through customs it's like they can search whatever the fuck they

want basically um but yeah i could be wrong but yeah assuming there's like bribery or something like that and and we do see i can't remember if it's already that this happened before but the ausa here like who makes some comment about annalise it seems like he's saying like you know don't dig too hard or some shit like that yeah like almost feels like a tell in a way that probably something was, you know, a mess. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Not above board. Yeah. Right. We'll be right back. And we're back. So we go from Wes and Laurel to Frank and Asher. We realized that Frank has been razzing Asher with this fake mob story. And then they see on the security camera footage that the feds arrived before the weigh-in, which seems important. Yeah.

someone uh tip them off and then azurize is great someone better get the cheddar cheese because we got ourselves a rat which i love and then we cut back to like this meeting with the clients it's like in some industrial area it looks it looks like downtown la and it kind of like it did bump a little bit for me because in the background you see like a rooftop not like a garden but like you see like foliage on a rooftop and I'm like it's the middle of the winter I think you know but yes we do see the foliage in in the winter often here yes we do yeah which is kind of unavoidable to some degree but like yeah I I think as like a midwestern winter I was just like there wouldn't be leaves on those trees like it's crazy yeah Annalise is talking to Lombardo's about the rat

he of course doesn't think there's a rat in his organization which is you know hilarious because like the mob was famously brought down by by rats right he then makes a pass at her and has the line chocolate and italian wine always pair well together which is a crazy crazy line and i just like part of me was like i i would love to sit in a writer's room and like hear these pitches you know because i buy it like i buy it coming from this character but like just knowing like who the writers are like it's just such a funny thing to have to pitch to a room of writers to be like what if he says this crazy line right right yeah no it's true it's also interesting i feel like i don't know for some reason when he says you don't seem particularly upset yeah as

someone who has you know been complicit in many murders it it feels like he's seeing through her a little bit in a different way just kind of interesting you know like yeah he's like you know from one murderer to another yeah yeah yeah yeah it's kind of like i think it's also like maybe why he hits on her where he's like right he's like i see you yeah yeah right for sure we cut from there to west's apartment west is asking his landlord mr fisher played i think beautifully by thomas w ashworth he is asking about this like you know mail forwarding for rudy and the landlord says that wes uh tells wes that rudy was actually arrested and rebecca was the one that called the cops which is a pretty big omission from from rebecca to west yeah we

get a different shot outside of wes's apartment block than before yeah this looks like a very cute neighborhood yeah honestly i'm like i'd live here totally yeah i'm like all right philly yeah I mean, I guess I did live here. Asher did at some point. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We're immediately in Wes and Rebecca's apartment.

I guess they just kind of live together now. They should downsize maybe. They shouldn't have two apartments that they're paying rent on. Totally. Or knock a wall down and then connect them. Yeah. Yeah. Rebecca feels like Wes is just trying to catch her in a lie.

She offers to confess again. I don't know. I guess it's like healthy communication but like her offering to confess all the time like also does feel a little manipulative too to me I don't know

but she is doing like very good caretaking here where Wes is like he's clearly spinning it out and he's trying to get back on the ball and says you know we'll figure that out when it happens and then sort of catches himself and says if it happens

which I thought was really good writing just like very human like a slip like that where you know yeah um and wes or wes i think elfie really pulls it off beautifully yeah for sure yeah um it makes sense because he yeah he's freaked out enough that he's thinking it's like a foregone conclusion totally yeah then we cut to the court hallway walk and talk annalise is going toe-to-toe with hobbs um she's trying to get i guess the charges thrown out or something she thinks there's like a ci but again i don't know why that would be legal right he he's just like not taking the bait and then he basically yeah he basically threatens her that if she you know that she's a suspect in sam's death right and it almost sounds

like he's gonna plan evidence on her it's interesting i once read that he was like gonna be a little lenient on her if like if she doesn't you know go too deep into it like yeah yeah it's also it's it's interesting to notice here i think that they had probably just built like this set of hallways that allows for the walk and talk at this point right because typically before this it would have been like a short little hallway where you get mostly static scenes but you know the also like when a show is doing well it has a better budget then they get to build more sets and and you know and add more production value and stuff so i feel like they had just probably built this where it allows you to like turn a corner you know and keep going and you kind of have to say

the lines at the right place so that you can make sure that you don't run out of hallway totally yeah for it and and obviously once they've built it they're going to be using it again um because they paid the money for it and we see it again um yeah like i think and maybe very soon after with bonnie and asher yeah and you see you'll see it more and more but like we you know there would be carpenters on set as part of the crew that would often work like overnight like finishing finishing set pieces that would then play in you know they they would also be responding to these production drafts where they'd be like oh we need a new we need this new location right and there'd obviously be a bunch of like coordination around those things and the carpenters

would literally build walls and what have you yeah and they'd be flown in into these and then you'll see too where like it kind of became like a bit of a lego set where you could you could change the court so like every court scene you see for the most part is in the same room but they've like changed out walls and artwork and carpet and seating but it was all on the same stage yeah and so you're i think you're right that this is the first time we see like a long hallway and then we get more hallways as like the seasons go on because we needed you know more real estate but those hallways also change based on like what building what federal building we're in basically yeah for sure so we go from the hallway to the house where all of the keating

five were watching the news about sam you enter eating pizza yeah cold pizza i think from the fridge and a little yeah which i love personally more than hot pizza i love cold pizza yeah so good do you think that you were eating it actually because you get spit buckets on set yeah i think i probably was taking a little bite hell yeah yeah it's cold pizza after all i mean yeah so yeah you get like a you you if possible there's like spit buckets so that like you can get the footage of you like taking the bite but then you can spit it out if you want so that you're not eating like you know 19 pieces of pizza right right so sometimes you'll see actors take absurdly small bites of like yes food or yeah or like a sip of a drink or something

like that yeah yeah or even like more common you'll just see actors pushing food around on their plate at dinner scenes right right you know and like not eating i remember hearing a story about parks and rec where apparently chris pratt was playing andy was spoke there was like a there's an episode where like they're taste testing burgers for like a burger competition and i can't remember who it was one of the other cast members in an interview said that chris pratt everyone was using spit buckets except for chris pratt and he ate like 26 cheeseburgers or something yeah which i thought was funny i'm thinking of like this famous famous image of like how tony soprano eats ice cream where he's just like yeah i'm just pushing it around on the in the bowl and stuff

yeah i don't know if that's a result of the same thing or not but that's so funny yeah yeah i get like pushed a lot of uh sopranos uh content on instagram and i saw like someone imitating like like eating different foods as if they're tony soprano right i think we probably saw that same video yeah worth looking into yeah annalise comes in says they're no longer pursuing the the ci angle which to me like that felt like oh hobbs did threaten her in the hallway and it was an effective threat right and i thought it was like a positive promise and she was like okay we're gonna totally on that yeah cool connor kind of like pushes back and she obviously snaps at him bonnie comes in and says that that hannah's suggesting that annalise threatened sam is

enough probable cause and the judge granted a warrant and then which brings Asher in in a very cool way where then Asher's like wait they think you killed Sam which then to me I was like it's crazy that

the others didn't react Asher if you know Asher would be like wait why aren't you guys surprised by this revelation why is no one surprised that you know sure he had pizza to pacify that's right Yeah. And then Annalise tells Bonnie to go challenge the warrant and not to screw it up. So then we go to, we follow Asher and Bonnie going to the judge. Asher offers to like tell Annalise to not pair them together. Let's keep it professional. They walk into court. As they walk into court, Bonnie asks Asher if he saw AK's car on Night X when he saw Connor's car. And he asked like, why do you ask? And she's like, no reason.

Yeah. And then we go into the courtroom. Hannah Keating is on the stand detailing a night, I guess, that she witnessed three years ago threatening Sam and threw a paperweight. Bonnie is not doing a great job of questioning Hannah. And Hannah Keating openly mocks her, which then gets a laugh from the court room. Yeah. And Asher looks like bummed or disappointed, I guess. yeah or yeah like feeling empathy for bonnie failing yeah um also does this mean that bonnie's a lawyer for sure yeah okay that seems like news to me matt mcgory in 2026 maybe i'm sure i knew this before you knew that you must have known that at some point did you know that before this scene did you remember yeah you did yeah i mean i don't think it's like i must have remembered it but like i don't know it it it seems i i think the show presented her as as at least like a

paralegal or something like someone with legal i see knowledge right whereas that's why i'll still i mean not not anymore but i think in the first like nine episodes i was always questioning like what is frank's job right from so we're saying he's not a lawyer yeah yeah i mean frank Frank's job is to commit murder. Yeah. He also has a personal injury law practice. That's like an ambulance chaser. Yeah.

That'd be so tight. It's like 1-800-EAT-WITH-FRANK. That's right. That's right. It's just him eating hoagies. Yeah. I'm going to take down, you know, your boss, just like I take down this hoagie. That's right.

Frankie the Bull. Yeah. Frankie the Bull. I see those ads on the New York City subway. The spinoff is Frank Delfino. Yeah. it's kind of like a better Saul call, call Saul sort of thing.

Yeah, exactly. We go from there to the exterior of Annalise's house. Asher very nicely says, you know, Babe Ruth didn't hit a home run his first time at bat. And the police are there raiding it. The Keating Four are outside.

Laurel has a burner that she got from Frank, which is cute. And we're all talking about the murder right outside in front of everyone, all of the authorities. Uh, and to your point, hannah walks up and just narrowly misses us talking about surely by the only reason she doesn't catch you is because she she says something to you from a distance she like calls out that's

the only reason i'm approaching yeah yes yes beware yeah yeah um and and laurel is just kind of using the burner phone out in the wild it's just very clear that it's a burner phone it's very clearly it's like laura's like flipping it open like close yeah even in 2015 i'm like that's a burner phone like that is that's that's a phone for for drug dealers and criminals she doesn't she doesn't hide it nope yeah but she feels like someone on the production side should have been like okay now you want to hide it a little bit now that hannah's here yeah i don't know hannah has this like reputation is everything you'll all be painted with a scarlet a for annalise uh yeah i guess just trying to get you know she's just trying to sow chaos and and get everyone to

turn on annalise right um annalise walks up and we get this exchange i mean this this exchange i don't even know how to get into this yeah i remember this so clearly she's like the ghetto i don't remember this really at all i think i've blocked this out of my memory but annalise tells her to get off the property and i was like i can stay it's my you know right to be on the sidewalk they go back you have to say it you have to and annalise says that hannah was always obsessed over sam her brother and then she says how's the saying go incest is best put your brother to the test what what in on god's green earth is this you know this common saying you can often find it at mugs and on t-shirts at gas station gift shops and rest stations gross this is so

gross yeah it's terrible like is this a saying right but then like the fact that like hannah just stands there and takes it and doesn't react no not only that i don't think she doesn't react i think she looks like oh annalee's got me with that yeah that's like a singer i was like What are you doing? Which does make me wonder, does it come back later? Do we find something about? I think it does, man. Oh, really?

Oh, okay. Yeah, I think it does. It must. I think it does, but that makes it even more, I don't know. It's just the whole thing to me is just like, if anyone accused me of incest, I'd be like, what do you mean? Just throw up on them. Yeah, it's so gnarly.

Yeah. and then it's followed up by maybe even gnarlier asher saying that you know his sister's not hot but his cousin is right it's really wild boy oh boy it's just playing a seed for the sister that we meet um a few seasons later um played by our our mutual friend uh kellen coleman also okay i remember that this was a moment in cold acting i kept trying to think about like what's this moment that i remember when i see like outside by the gate but i remember this is the moment where i feel like alfie specifically was like very stressed about the about it not being cold out about we were talking about there's like some leaves on the bushes right beside us and he's wearing a scarf

here maybe wearing like gloves which by comparison makes hannah look so underdressed which is also hilarious but yeah i think i'm wearing i think connor's wearing gloves too oh yeah yeah i feel like i remember us standing there and some of you requesting additional like wardrobe like you know i mean it was like things yeah like a month ago in new york it was like two degrees right like it gets so cold yeah yeah yeah yeah i don't know i i always i did struggle with that a little bit where like it did seem like a thing where people i don't know they're just like well like if they're focused on that like it's not we have bigger fish to fry and i i was just yeah i don't know i for whatever reason it always bumped me where i'm just like is this just a symptom of

people like us making tv shows in los angeles where people have forgotten about like weather systems right yeah sure i don't know yeah we then go to the interior uh where the feds are raiding they are looking around for for clues i guess we get some really cool orbital steadicam shots like following annalise in and like circling her bonnie apologizes for blowing it uh and then a fed finds something by the tv uh cabinet and it's the scales from the trophy yeah um the ones i lost on my scales um yeah i was i was thinking about that yeah you in real life lost your scales because you committed a murder with them that's right and then the feds let bonnie handle the trophy in scales which i thought was like was interesting where i then questioned i was like are you allowed

to be in your house as it's being raided by right that's a great question not right probably not yeah and it must it must come to fruition later that that there was the that sam was killed with a blunt object because otherwise i feel like that would definitely be their eyes would be on that right yeah yeah because they're at this thing at this point they're like wiping down the kitchen knives and stuff like that yeah yeah so that yeah you're right that the report or whatever must come later yeah which that tracking for me is a little confusing too because i'm like if they already id'd the remains surely there would have been like a week of them like running doing some sort of like autopsy or something sorry quick question going back for one second

we we have actors a lot of times play play like winter when it's warm like in la do we have situations where actors are playing like the opposite where they're playing summer and it's like winter in vancouver like they must there must be some way around that like they just don't do it because you're not gonna have an actor wear like shorts and be freezing on set right like outdoors i think it's weird that i haven't even thought of that before also it's kind of interesting surely that happens i think so i feel like the risk of like the actor like shivering and having goosebumps and even being in like physical danger would be too high but this is also why filming in la is generally an easier place to film because you can always

do it outdoors too right yeah right anyway i don't know i was thinking like i feel like i've been on film shoots where like they're like making rain or something i don't know that's always very cold and like you'll be in like i don't know shorts or whatever like if it's like a summer movie right you're like in freezing rain machines yeah that's true that's not really the same thing as your what you're asking but i do that is a good question where are people shooting tv shows in cold climates for warm weather climates probably not outdoors yeah but i don't know yeah maybe like maybe vancouver or toronto even right yeah i'm gonna text some people we'll figure it out yeah oh yeah so it's not a crime scene yet i guess so they let her take the trophy and put

the scales back on um we get a really cool sequence with this song uh homeostasis by nostalgia it's like blasting as the feds start using like the whatever it is like the black light or uv the yeah the black light to look for the blood splatter yeah and then the detective wants them to check the exact spot where sam fell yeah and we get like a great poker face from annalise but not a great one from frank like they cut to frank and i'm like frank looks a little worried right yeah yeah it's just a cool thing where the detectives at the bottom and then she looks up and sees annalee standing to the stairs and looking down and then seems to from that get the idea to search the very spot that sam was killed yeah which makes you think that oh this person's

maybe very good at her job yeah totally we get the poppy pop back to sam falling we see like all the blood splatter like we see rebecca getting choked um we're cutting back and forth with the with the Keating for outside. We then, you know, get Laurel getting the text saying they didn't find anything, obviously using her burner phone in public. Yes, indeed.

And all the tests are immediate. There's no test that need to take a day or an hour even to get results. It's interesting. Yeah, it's very immediate. But yeah. As the feds walk out, we see Annalise looking at the floor

that they just tested. And then we poppy pop back to a new scene that we haven't seen before of Annalise on sort of her hands and knees really scrubbing that floor. Yeah. And then we, you know, as Annalise is like, you know,

thinking of that memory, Bonnie walks in, clocks Annalise and has kind of like this suspicion growing. We then go to the kitchen where Bonnie's looking at Sam's, like the report and tells Frank that, yeah, I guess you're right. It must have just dropped

and that he died from blunt force trauma to the head, something metal or steel. Frank's deflecting. Yeah, seems like great information they'd want to have before doing the search of the house. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. Bonnie points out that they also found

carpet fibers and wood debris. We then cut to the office where Connor and Michaela are crashing out about the report, saying that it'll obviously lead back to them. Laurel's telling them to shut the fuck up. Connor, I think, is asking the question that we all are. It's like, her husband just got murdered. She should be grieving,

which then prompts Annalise to appear and say, Mr. Walsh, in my office. And then this cuts into the one-on-one scene, which we've talked about. Those always felt like big opportunities, I think, as an actor, to just get that time with Viola. You'll notice watching the show,

they do give scenes with Viola a little bit more air to breathe. and like it's it's usually when the show slows down a little bit so you get to like act in a different way this one's for the real this one's for the real yeah exactly i remember this uh too because like i was i remember being at the desk and playing with my hands and like kind of like wringing my hands and like picking at my nail beds and like just doing some like anxious hand acting and bill dalia our director really liked it and so he he brought in one of the cameras to shoot like an insert of just my hands right um and you don't see any of that here like it you

know doesn't it doesn't end up making the cut but you do see it as i exit the office where i'm like tugging at my sweater sleeves and like you know playing with my hands quite a bit yeah you did a really great job here um thanks yeah and and i think even though you don't see the hand acting it informs like the physicality and and just your performance right like it gives you something to do i think that's like it's yeah i think i imagine it probably wouldn't have been the same without you doing that even though it's not even visible you know thanks yeah yeah no i think it's a good scene too of just like annalise like trying to assure connor and saying that you know she picked him because she saw herself in him like it's it's definitely i think manipulative which we find out

later but like it it i think comes as some comfort to connor in this moment and basically her saying like you know we're both worriers but you can stop worrying because i'm i'm your only option here yeah i mean she makes a great argument which also makes sense because she's a great fucking attorney yeah so yeah we cut from as we as i walk out as we walk out and rejoin the king five laurel has found a lead in pedro hortua which we're gonna get to in a second nate nate phone call nate says that they are testing the soil and foliage and he will let her know um she asks if he thinks that she did it which he responds with what is it you say about your clients never ask them if they did it and i'm like oh okay it's interesting i think that this for me is the first this episode is the

first time where i actually see like love between them you know um like showing up for each other and like you know supportive you know not not healthy but like sure like they are supporting one another yeah through this anyway he he then also affirms i think this feeling i had at the beginning with like the the case where he's like i get it if you stop working sam wins go kick some ass right and then we go to court where she's gonna kick some ass where pedro hortua is on the stand and annalise is grilling him about how he chose the container for weighing and boy oh boy did viola have a hard time yes saying his last name was a was a challenge to yeah to to say it lightly it's funny because you never know when you watch it no you just you wouldn't know but

behind the scenes i feel like she kept saying like portua or two uh yeah like we were all dying laughing we were dying dying laughing because she would like you know she has so much to do in these court scenes and like it almost to the point of like when i was remembering how we were just like all losing our shit yeah like like truly laughing at davis yeah yeah like you know i like think about all of the interviews where people are like what was it like watching Viola just act and I'm like honestly like sometimes pretty funny right and like seeing how human she is in like just not being able to pronounce this last name for whatever you know just like phonetically or rhythmically like in the dialogue was just difficult for her but yeah you would never notice it from the

performance obviously I was also thinking about it like why didn't they just change the name right right I guess it would have taken a while maybe to get like clearance because you do have like clear names and all that it was also said by this point i mean i guess i don't know when we shot this relative to oh that's a good point yeah that's a good point we probably already shot and established that this was the name of this person and then viola was just stuck like having to pronounce hortua i can't now i don't even know pedro hortua hortua yeah hortua and no it's not that one no i know but i'm saying i'm trying to remember how she was saying hortua was one of them yeah yeah and then she'd get like pretend mad at us which sometimes she would somewhat maybe

somewhat mad also she probably was a little yeah probably that's really true yeah which is fair yeah um but it was yeah really fond memory really really liked that yeah when that one has that one has not been deleted from my memory files and i hope it never is it's a special folder yeah exactly anyways she's grilling him and he basically says he was instructed he was promised a green card

for himself and his wife if he chose Mr. Lombardo's container that's crazy and then she asks is the man in this courtroom

right now and he points to A-U-S-A off and then Annalise just goes off you know

about she just goes she just goes you know she's swinging for the fences here i also really liked as we leave court there's like all these italian wise guys that walk out and i'm like i'm like i didn't really notice them in like in the court but they get kind of like a special as they're like walking out and they're like you know they got like their toothpick right there's the one guy yeah with the with the one specific

hair that looks like paulie walnuts right from like uh and stuff yeah totally we also the exterior of this scene was where we shot the pilot the courtroom of the pilot um like where we're all standing and watching after annalise wins her first case and and michaela says i want to be her oh yeah yeah which is interesting too yeah takes me back um we go into the hallway where hobs is there and they have this back and forth and she she ends it with you're the one dumb enough to mess with the mob which i thought was great and then we go to laurel outside of annelise's she's waiting for frank and she breaks down and it's really beautiful like i think it's really great work from carla and and uh charlie and she has this great like just because i'm upset doesn't

mean i need you to touch me and he's like can i then just like comfort you by standing here yeah which felt like I could see that in like the like cute moment reels of like

Shondaland characters you know what I mean like it feels very very warm television writing yeah that I liked

seems we go to Annalise watching the news saying that it's the foliage sample soil samples have pinpointed to a specific area

and then Bonnie comes in and drops the trophy on Annalise's desk and confronts her about the report she knows what's up she she pieced it all together we poppy pop back to night x where bonnie walks in after leaving asher's and she realizes the rug is gone she's a smart cookie

and put enough context clues together to figure out what has happened she's a lawyer as we know she's a lawyer as we all know we all have known this whole time and she basically says you're not going to get away with this aka not if you keep uh avoiding the police and then throws the the youngsters under the bus said you didn't do this they did don't let them ruin you right

which seems like she's suggesting that she give up thick eating for 100% yeah 100% which also like at this point I'm like

can she like there's literally four of them yeah who can like they don't even need to like lie

like they can all just like tell the same version of what happened to the police separately and it will all implicate Annalise as helping

cover up the you know being an accessory to murder right but maybe maybe that's maybe you know she'd probably get a better deal right going to the police and i think this maybe happens later isn't this like the end of the isn't the end of the show about this i don't know i have no idea we have no idea how the show ends oh my god okay well let's stay tuned yeah i think that i think we get i think we cross this bridge eventually right um all right we go from there to annalee's drinking alone poppy pop back to her promising the students that she'd protect them she then picks up her burner phone and calls

someone and says i need you right now yeah uh we then go to knock knock knock it's the next day the detective is there and says they found evidence in the woods annalee says okay i'm ready to talk let me get my coat in this moment it's interesting there's like when they're at the door it looks like there's like a couple flecks of like snow but and and but it must not be it must be like i don't know if it's like pollen in la or something like that but i thought it was interesting that you see that and then you're like oh that would be an easy effect to add and then i thought because she gets says let me get my coat that they're trying to do something with that um i don't know and then i also thought it's funny that we never see the snow throughout the philly winter either

right well we we tried to put snow in once and it all melted really yeah we'll talk about that once we get there but in a future season i think production spent a deal of money to create fake snow and then the temperature unexpectedly rose in the day and we if my memory serves all this fake snow melted we then go to Annalise being questioned on camera

uh then we go to Wes's apartment they're waiting to find out what's happening cause I guess oh because of the evid

because of the new evidence I don't know why what they're waiting for well Rebecca but Rebecca has a friend with a cop brother who says that they found

a ring in the woods so I guess they're like they're waiting for like the police to come barging in yeah I suppose yeah

And they weren't there during the search, the search of the house and stuff either. The students, the Keating Four. Yeah, they were. They were outside. What do you mean? Oh, right. But they weren't inside.

No, they weren't inside. So I guess, yeah. I mean, yeah. Never mind. I think the new information that they pinpointed it to the woods and then this even newer information from Rebecca saying they found a ring

is them waiting to be arrested. Michaela starts having a panic attack, which really great work by Asia. Then we cut back to the police and the ring in question is not Michaela's ring. That was a red herring. Thank God. It's actually Sam's ring,

which Wes gave to Annalise. And she, we then see, gave it to Frank to plant. And he also went and lifted a fingerprint off a glass to put on the ring. Mm-hmm. Whoo! and we can't really tell

like you know where what apartment he's broken into and like you know what print he's lifting and then we reveal that it is in fact Nate's house and that we get the next the next

morning and Nate is placed under arrest for the murder of he gets fucked again he gets absolutely fucking t-boned to this poor man yeah um he's bored man he lost his job and then gets arrested for murder so it happens when you become a cop um but the uh my i actually the the redirector on the ring like really i was so stressed thinking it was michaela's ring i'm like oh well everyone's everyone's fucked like

we're fucked it's funny because i know that you know everyone's not going to jail generally i think but right yeah i was just like oh shit it's over it's over yeah nope uh also i had this like image of like if frank frank breaking into nate's apartment and part of me wanted nate to like wake up and then them to fight sure it'd be such a crazy fight sure you know just like trying to throw charlie across you know and then charlie like breaking a bottle and like trying to be so good there is like i think there's like one fight scene or there's at least one fight scene but yeah our show was not exactly that kind of show but that would be really that really would be fun yeah um so we then are we're then at the police station where hannah keating just

conveniently is there she hangs out there yeah she hangs out at the police station as nate is being brought in to be processed uh annalise is behind him hannah just spits some venom at annalise you know being like maybe you didn't know that he did this but he did this for you like i don't know why she's like backtracking on this idea right she would just still think that that annalise did it right right anyway um we then cut to the keating four watching the news and i love this exchange where connor says she did this annalise did this laurel is like but how did she do this? And then Michaela asks, does it matter? She's doing what she said she'd do. She's taking care of us, which I think just sets up the question. We know that she did this,

but how did she do it? And does it matter? What are the ramifications for the students going forward of her throwing an innocent man under the bus? Yeah. Also, then it made me question, like do they feel guilty about that going forward like i don't really remember that but right you know do they like lose sleep over whatever happens to nate right i don't know that is interesting and then we end the episode with annalee's going home getting into bed with her full makeup wig and clothes uh and she is crying and she makes a phone call and she says mama i need you mama so good so good this is a crazy episode oh my god this episode's nuts the ring kayla's ring i thought oh no

yeah i feel emotionally exhausted after just yeah yeah it's pretty good i think that uh i think we need some questions from from the listeners because it's we're approaching the end of the season and i think it'll be important to have like any burning questions about season one right i think uh we need to start getting them now to process them yeah um because i already have like like my mind swimming having filmed it yeah and like been a part of the show so i'm sure that people have yeah a lot of questions as we're nearing the the close of season one totally so definitely email us at how we got away with murder at gmail yeah how we got away with murder at gmail and then next episode is mama's here now who do you think said that oh i think i know who said

that one miss cicely tyson wow yes yeah yeah yeah yeah okay i was gonna try to remember the character's name um i was gonna say anime but that's uh that's violist that's um at least his name. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Um, okay. You're going to say Cicely Tyson, who you just spoiled is playing. Um, I'm going to say, uh, I'm going to say Asher mama's here. Yeah. Frank's mom, the meatball recipe. Uh, mama's here to have Frank's mom. Yeah. Well, this was a good one. I liked it a lot. Yeah. It really moved.

I think it's set. I think it's teeing us up for a crazy, you know, it is end of the season. It's building the tension for, we got like a couple episodes left of the season. It's like building the tension to get us through. Totally.

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