HR BESTIES - HR Besties: Crashing Out at Work: What to Do When You’re Mad, Sad, or Spiralling

Episode Date: September 3, 2025

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crashing out at work now that's actually what we're talking about today and normally we don't give such a distinct preview but we're clear communicators here but have you all ever have you all ever crashed out at work or seen someone crash out oh god yes and yes right diddo so I remember the first time I really saw someone crash out at work or heard them more notably So the year was 2004. This is when I was not HR or lawyer me, but when I was sales me. And so like a lot of companies and teams, we had a Monday meeting where we'd gather and talk about our sales forecast for the week and all of our pipeline.

But this was, we were traveling all over the country. And so people would dial in by phone. And so if you were in the office, you knew you'd gather in the office. Other people would be on that big, what was that like office, the conference room speakerphone that looked like a little spaceship. Um, oh, okay. So we were going around and, you know, every team has all sorts of personalities on a sales team. It tends to be people that are chatty and things like that. But there was a guy on our sales team who was like very, very, very reserved and quiet. And like almost to the point when they'd give the forecast, you'd kind of be like, okay, like, how are you in sales meetings? Like, how does this conversation work? And different styles can work. But he was so mild-mannered and quiet. And so one day we went around and he gave us forecast and, you know, I don't know, this may be this will come in. Hopefully. in a lot of hopes and wishes and dreams, which is not what you want to say on a sales forecast call. But okay, and the manager's fine, whatever, move on. So right as the next person was getting

ready to speak, all of a sudden you heard, fudge, but not the udge. Like 100, scream out of 100. And we were all, like, I was one of the people in the room. And so I was like, sorry. And so our boss like, I'm sorry, excuse me? And you were like, bam, bar, is everything okay? And this guy said, oh, oh, no, mild manner guy said, oh, no, sorry. Somebody was just about to cut me off. And so, no, sorry, I'll go on mute. And I just remember. I think after the call ended, those that were in the room, the sales manager, of course, because you can't talk in front of people who got to talk behind their back, even in the workplace, was like, oh, we could

probably use some of that energy more in the sales meetings than that. But like, it's kind of funny on occasions when you see someone and you think you really know them at work and they have a whole other side of them. So that was one of the first times that I saw someone crash out. Luckily, I was not in an HR legal role. So I didn't have to do anything about it. Thank God, right? They almost literally crash. Yeah. And so they come almost, and like, we're like, no, no, don't go on mute. Are you, like, are you okay? Unmute. I'm fine. I'm going to mute. Like, okay. Sally, do you want to go with your forecasting? Sally's like, uh, Awkward joke. Yep. Anyway, but like the levels of screams. So yeah, there we go. If I were in

legal or HR, the sales manager would have been like, do we need to write this person up for screaming? That's the trailing work that you have. But I don't know what happened. Was he really driving? I mean, you think? Or was he just forgetful with this mute button? And then he had to make something up real quick. Now you're making me think of this in a whole different way. This is really like, did you hear beeps? Did you hear those kids? Did you hear it? Did you hear like what's the air you know like the car noise did not hear no no no skids no no no beats like like like like if it's one of those radio contests of like what's this sound you know for 500s like like hand hitting steering wheel or table or something like that's

interesting maybe it was like the worst kind of critical self-talk I mean all of us I'm so important time I'm sure have like you say something at work or you do and you think to yourself like oh why'd I say it that way why did it maybe his was to yell that at himself dangly I never thought of it that way. I need to look him up on LinkedIn. Send him a DM. That poor man probably goes to bed at night and like remembers that and like is mortified and then if you LinkedIn best, come on.

People do remember, damn it. Bring them on the show. Remember that one time? Wow. Crashing out there. Gosh. Where's your playlist taking you? Down the highway to the mountains?

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If he even was in the car, we don't know. But we'll talk about what to do when you're mad, angry, upset, spiraling at work, all the things, right? And maybe give some fun examples from our work experiences. Then as always, some questions and comments at the end. How does that sound? Sounds like an agenda. All right. So cringe corporate speak. I've got one today. One that I use. I've used. It's not like, you know what I mean? It's on the list somewhere, but too many cooks in the kitchen. Oh, yeah.

You all ever hear this one? You say it. Too many people doing something at the same time, right? So now we're just stepping all over each other and we're not actually. fixing that meal. No one's eating, okay? Like, there's no food. Nothing's being produced here because there's too many of us. It's getting convoluted, busy, confusing. Who knows? But yeah, I say, oh, there's too many cooks in the kitchen. So too many people want control, probably. Too many people are trying to lead something. Too many people are involved. Everyone's got a freaking opinion. Someone just make a damn decision on let's move forward. There's too many

cooks in this damn kitchen here. It's getting hot. Y'all use this. You have? I definitely have. I mean, my husband is actually a chef. So, I mean, I use it unironically, I guess. I was going to say, do they use it at work unironically? That would be fun. They probably do. I mean, for real, though. Think about it. I mean, I know he gets annoyed with me if we're like both in the kitchen fixing dinner and I'm in a drawer that he needs to be in or he has to reach over me and And it's like, oh, you know, it's like over-stimulated. And, of course, like the oven fans going on full blast. It's loud.

It's hot. All the things, right. Well, that happens in the workplace, too, when too many people are freaking trying to do show. Yeah. Like, you're in a spreadsheet or something. You're editing things. All of a sudden, there's come somebody in, highlighted, some highlight color flagging in there, changing things.

And you're like swiping it away. Like, no, no, no, don't, don't, don't do that. Also, it's somebody sometimes that may not have the technical capabilities to do something. And so you see your work, more work being created, real time and you're trying to chat them and you're like, don't, don't ignore me. I see, I see you in there. And so I do think so. I've said it. And I think it's like I'm all about getting input and feedback and like making decisions not based on one. But it's like when people are really all trying to decide the same thing or it can be too much. Absolutely. There's just too

many cooks in the freaking kitchen. Just make the meal somebody. Damn. You know? Well, if you have never used that, I challenge you to use it today. and annoy the shit out of your co-workers. I'll be like, what? What? You've never said that. Gosh, maybe they'll crash out, listening to your annoying ass,

transitioning to the hot topic of the meeting today, crashing out at work. Have you all ever crashed out at work? What did that look like? I'm like, for sure, but it was probably way more chill than, like, I'm imagining. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Because I actually posted like a couple weeks ago on humorous resources, a video of a lady that got fired after she set up the breakfast. Lee, I think you sent it to me, the breakfast buffet at the hotel. Yes. Yeah, that's a crash out. And she goes into the breakfast buffet and she just destroys. I'm talking coffee, juice, cereal all over the floor of the hotel. There's guests in there eating too. Like that's a legit crash out.

Yeah. I think I've crashed out, but probably. more quietly. Like, I either closed my office door or maybe I was working from home and I decided to scream or go for a hot girl walk. I fairly recently learned what crash out really means. Like, my kids

are 11 and 14 and so they're like really in the YouTube vernacular. Oh. Did you look it up? Define it for everybody because that's a fair point. People are like, what the hell does that even mean? Let me look it up. You're the Oracle. It's like the 90s kids going postal.

Because, yeah, not so PC. It's like an emotional outburst or impulsive behavior often triggered by feeling overwhelmed or stressed. My kids didn't say that, but I'd probably, I'd probably say that. I mean, let me look at this. Have I ever had an emotional outburst or impulsive behavior? Probably more on the impulsive behavior, but what I often do is I write an email to myself. And that is, and sometimes ordered a draft email, email to myself. Oh, that's good.

That's good. Certainly I have cried at work. I don't think I've ever yelled. No, I've never yelled. but I've cried at work, but my impulsive behavior would be like, it would be a keyboard warrior and write that out. But I generally, I learned from the time that I sent the like email subject lines, email of like, you know, top 10 lines to get someone to open an email to CFOs.

If you haven't heard that episode, those were all not HR approved. But I learned from that point in time to be really judicious with your work email. And so I may go to my personal email and just write myself an email and delete it later. Think about if I want to send a version of it. But that's my version of impulsive behavior. That sounds healthy, actually. Yeah, that would be a piece of advice I would give to someone is pull up an email. Don't put anyone in the subject line in case you accidentally send that shit. But type your little heart away and vent, even if you're directing it at that person or you're just venting in general. I mean, I think that's great advice that, I mean, I've used and it's helped me even talking to like a trusted coworker friend, like, We're talking about your work bestie here. We're not talking about some random colleague that you guys sometimes eat lunch together,

someone that you could truly be like, listen to this fucking shit, Glenn did. It's always Glenn. Yeah. No, I've definitely crashed out at work before. It's rare. I'm pretty controlled. I'm like that cool cucumber person under pressure. Love the pressure in a way.

I've shared that less than a handful of times I've been really mad at work. One, I had a walk out. Remember, I had to, like, get up when that ops leader suspended that salaried person without pay. Like, how are we going to do that in the payroll system? I mean, I was so angry. I didn't even consult me. Okay. You were going to suspend a director-level-saried way?

Okay. That was one. I had a walk-out. I was so angry. Then there was one I got through under the bus by another office. There's a theme here. Opsleaders. That's when I growled. Remember, I growled? I growled at him. That worked. That scared the shit out of them. There's another angry one I haven't shared with you all before, but that. But I have been like so overwhelmed before. I'll never forget this moment. I was working an acquisition. And so we were integrating the business in. to a way bigger business. So $4 billion purchase, bringing it in. And I'm leading on the people side.

And I had like over 600 actions I needed to take within HR to like complete that portion of the integration, right? And I love it. I mean, I love like giving me the messiest project, fantastic. I remember one day I was so just overwhelmed. We didn't call it crashing out then, but I'm sitting in my office. I'm looking at this spreadsheet of like what to do next. And I was so overwhelmed that I almost like blacked out, right? I mean, I went numb and I just leaned back in my chair. This is the only time this has ever happened to me in my career was crazy.

I couldn't even move. then it was probably like 30 minutes later. I'm not kidding. There was like an orange on my desk. I reached for this orange. I start unpealing it. I like eat an orange. Like it was weird. I like went into like a different state. It was crazy. So I consider that crashing out. I was comatose. I was so overwhelmed. And then one other time I went to my car and screamed. That was nice. That was a different job. But I'd never done that before, but I highly recommend it, especially if you always get to work late. So, you know, you're parked and like, the last spot in the parking lot. No one can hear your ass and shit, you know. Like you just, you know, you just hang out in your car. I put some music up on high and I just screamed, you know, but yeah, I would consider that a crash out just from being so stressed out. Yeah, I've crashed out at work before, but I don't think ever, like, publicly, I haven't had that joy. The theme often is there's a lot of things you can do privately, just not not doing it publicly because it can stick with you. And sometimes you can't control it. And that's a whole other issue. And you need to have,

like you take leave have those and that's and just and just know that sometimes people think oh I can never recover from this I can't and the truth is like as hard as those things are and you never have to share details but also addressing it to the extent you feel comfortable when you come back and just saying I just had a really human moment and I appreciate the grace like because people do like anything happens at work people talk about things but people won't remember judge you and more people will be able to relate to that than not but if you are in that moment and you feel stressed, I think, saying, if something's really bugging you in the moment, you're like, ooh, just saying, you know what, I want to be able to respond and not react.

There's a real difference between how you react and how you respond. And responding takes some time. And however you're going to react, it's totally natural. And I don't even think you need to think about controlling that. But it's how you visibly and publicly respond that, especially who talked about things like owning your career and keeping your job and getting promoted, being able to, regardless of your position, but often especially if you're a leader. the way that you visibly can take situations and just, and some of that's telling yourself,

like, things will be okay. Like, Lee, you got through that. Like, you got through that project. And sometimes that's going to mean, like, things have to push. You're going to have to bring more people in. Like, it doesn't always, like, magically happen in the 20-minute blackout period, but you'll be able to get things. And so, like, having that mantra for yourself of like, you know, I'll get through this. Sometimes can help in those stickier moments. Yeah. Like, take a play out of my book in walking out of the room. excusing yourself, use Ashley's phrase there, you know, which I think is really profound and meaningful of, hey, I want to actually respond and not react. So I'm going to excuse myself.

You have the free will to do that, you know? I know we all get so upset and things happen in a moment, but even if you don't have to be that eloquent, just stand up and walk out, right? because it's true that crashing out big time in the workplace, I mean, it looks uncontrolled. And it can be scary for you, of course, you're going through, going through it, whatever it is, but to others, too. You know what I mean? So it depends on how bad this is or how much support you need. We want to get to the point where we're not crashing out at work and, you know, we have the support system and internal. external therapy, whatever it is, you know, to get through these things. But it happens. But just

know you can walk out of that room. And that might be the smarter play. And go and breathe, meditate. Whatever you need to do, cope, do your hot girl walk around the block. Whatever it is, go bitch to the bestie. But you can excuse yourself. You don't have to sit there and suffer. And that is actually a scarier play, especially if it's someone that is like, you know, like pissing you off. And they're like that ops leader who totally screwed up. That was way scarier me stepping out. Holy shit. Than if I would have actually replied in the moment angry.

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The first thing you do not do is tell that person to calm down. Don't. I mean, I am kidding. But I think also what kind of crash out is? You know what I mean? Is it someone who is angry? Are they crying? But, I mean, I can think of a few that typically it was people coming to my office

and they're just visibly in tears. So I literally sit with them, hand the box of tissues, and I'll say when you're ready, you tell me, even if you're not ready. And then I usually always ask, too, as an HR professional, is this something I need to document, or do you just want to vet? And, you know, they would say, I actually don't want to say anything. I just wanted to come in here and sit for a minute. Maybe I needed to get off the floor. This is my space spot. I could pretend like I was coming to get candy because I always had candy in my office.

I could come get candy and cry in front of you and it would be okay. It really depends on the level of crash out. Obviously, if the video I'm referring to on my page where the poor lady is literally, I mean, at some point you have to like forcefully remove that person, right? I mean, maybe not forcefully. That wasn't the right word. But that person needs to be removed from pregnantness. And, you know, there have been those times where people have been terminated where there's a reason that,

they had to be walked out. And not just by me, maybe a male member of leadership because it was likely, because they've crashed out prior, that it was likely they were going to crash out again or maybe, you know, crash out. I'm using it in the sense of a joke. But it's kind of just knowing the level of crash out and understanding your employees and what a crash out looks like for them. I think we do have the benefit in HR is like we can feel the climate all the time within the organization. We know the mood. We know what's going on. So I think that we can see things coming. So, you know, I've been in meetings where things are getting heightened. Well, yeah, we just had bad financials. We just had this, that whatever, right? Like the, the, it's,

morale is low. And people are getting frustrated. And I think it's, it's totally appropriate to say, is everyone okay? Like, can we pause this meeting? Can we, let's take a break. Like, you know, let's step away. How about this is enough for today? Like, let's come back and revisit. Let's just go ahead and like disperse. Like, whatever you have to say, like when you feel like crash outs are coming, your own or others or all of the above, like, you know, that it's okay to step away and everyone just take a break, you know. Definitely do that. That's going to be helpful for others because you can spot that in your colleagues. You can see those things coming. much as you can kind of be that voice before it gets to that level. I think that's so important

because there's there's going to be all sorts of different relationships at work. And sometimes, yeah, I agree HR, you know, we have an appreciation depending on the HR department. You have training. Often you're like, I haven't gotten any training, but I've kind of figured things out along the way because you see more. And so you see more, you learn more. Managers on their team, they often don't have a toleration for emotions because they're thinking how this impacts them or colleagues don't know what to do. And so the biggest thing sometimes is just knowing, I agree to Jamie's point of not saying calm down. And you may be saying that because you're trying to help that, but some of the most helpful things sometimes can just be to say, I'm here. I am here for you. Put everything to the side.

I'm here for whatever you need. Do you want to go for a walk? Do you want to like said, do you need time alone? Do you need these things? Just asking some of those general questions. They seem very basic. Those are things that that you can say. But this is one of those situations that you don't have to be a manager to be a leader in the workplace. And you don't have to be on someone's team to recognize someone as a human and what they're going through. I mean, you know, sometimes people's crash outs and things like that. And we use the term as like, you know, jokingly or because we're, you know, I'm trying to reverse age myself. So that's what I'm really trying to do. But sometimes it's work related. And that can be harder if you're like, I don't know how this is going to resolve. And like,

you don't have to deal with everything at once. But sometimes it's people going through very real things that happen. I mean, some of the hardest things in my life. I mean, I can visualize being 24 years old and getting a call, 23 years old, getting a call that my mom had been diagnosed with a very serious illness at work and my immediate thought being, don't cry at work, because everyone says, don't cry at work.

And having a colleague named Joshua, I'm still friends with years later, come over and just like, you know, I'm here for you and these things and like, I'm here, it's totally okay. And like, I will never forget that. And it's nothing extraordinary, but just knowing you may not know what to do when someone's like crying or has emotions, you may not know the reason for it, you may not

know need to know the reason for it. But when you can like put things aside in your discomfort and just show up for that person and say, put everything else aside, I'm here for you for whatever you need. Sometimes those, you know, there's no magic words in anything you do, but those words can be like water in the desert for people that need to hear that. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And I would say that there is a greater responsibility of leaders to be mindful of their crashouts, there just is because people can feel so unsafe when a leader is crashing out. And I think it is so impactful when a leader says, you know what, I'm having a rough day today. I'm going to step away for a couple days. I'll be back on Monday. I need to

take care of some things or myself or whatever, right? I mean, or you'd excuse themselves or whatever before they have a huge kind of, we'll say crash out, like you said, to reverse age ourselves, but emotional outbursts, like just raw, like anger, whatever, whatever it is, you know, the stress piling up and getting the best of them because people, their team, I mean, they're seeing this. And yes, we are all human, but it can make people feel very very, very unsafe, right? Again, depending on what it is in the context, but I've had a leader crash out before, and I was shaking, witnessing it. I'll just never forget that feeling. I felt so unsafe. I almost had to get up and, I mean, I should have gotten up and left, you know. I was just,

oh, just grow, you know, just oh. So just make sure we're not taking it out on our, our team members, especially our direct reports, when it's stressful and negative and anger, you know. Let's a the issues and not each other. Tim's new scrambled egg loaded croissant. Or is it croissant? No matter how you say it. Start your day with freshly cracked scrambled eggs loaded on a buttery, flaky croissant.

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Should we pivot into some questions and comments? What do we got? I would just say it's not weak to feel something at work. It's okay to have feelings, be upset, to cry. You know, I know that we've been told these things, right, and these things we can't do. But full stop, you're allowed to feel every, feeling, every emotion that you have, you might have to, if you're someone who is embarrassed by that, you might need to go to your office or your car or the bathroom. It's okay to also pause and

process that. Protect your peace, like even at work. Not a quick question, but a comment on that. Totally agree, Jamie. Like, we bring our whole selves to work. I think that, again, when it carries over to like anger or you know like kind of the the negatives externally facing crashing out again do your best to remember that hey other people you know are experiencing you too you know so as much as we can let's stay safe and respectful i have a question speaking of crash out like a term that's like a pop culture term maybe that's a terrible slang whatever What's a term that you've learned at some point recently, like learned what that means? That's like a slang term.

I mean, you know, I have a 12-year-old. So he says things like got, Riz. But, I mean, those were kind of last year. Skibbitty, you know what I mean? What's got? But, like a big butt. Oh, Giat. Yeah.

In Georgia, we pronounce a Giat, which I've learned, which... Oh, we say Giat. Yeah. What? I don't even know that. Yeah. I don't got a Giat. Well, you know, I will say last night, my stepson

and his girlfriend were over, and they kept saying 6-7, and I still have not looked up what that means. But apparently it's a TikTok thing. Well, I'm going to look it up. They said it like 40 times last night. It's a song's beat drop. Oh, okay.

They kept saying 6-7, and then I'd go 8, just to be silly. People took it from Lamello Ball's height and turned it into numbers with a meme. Okay. Like, I mean, the stretches people get to on these things are really, like, kids have the creativity. Lee, do you have any?

No. Okay. I don't. I'm just constantly making up my own shit, though, you know, so. I know. I have one, and this is why it is. It's big cooks in the kitchen. No, it is.

So recently, or within the last, like, a couple months, Rhode Island became the first state in the U.S. to grant, required accommodations for women going through symptoms of menopause. And at a high level, it's just like the ADA kind of. It's like ADA accommodations, you know, menopause, on its own isn't covered by the ADA, so that's why it's notable. And, like, of course, I get these, like, DMs. And I'm like, I'm not a lawyer. I'm not giving, I mean, I'm a lawyer. I'm not your lawyer. I'm not giving legal advice. But like, oh, here's this explanation. New York has,

like, a potential bill for, I think, same with, like, providing support for those going through menopause or menstruation. And people are like, and I'm like, for those that may not know what that can look like at work. Here's an actual, like, Department of Labor Resource Guide that's actually a pretty helpful government document, pretty practical for a government document. But anyway, I got messages, and one of them was like, something, something, Shark Week. And I was like, you hadn't heard that? Are you talking about Shark Week from the Discovery Channel? As the period.

I'd never heard that in my life. Oh, my gosh. That's like decades old. I mean, you know, clearly. Since they started Shark Week. Yeah, since they started Shark Week. And so I'd never heard this. So now, now, and I had a boss that used to call this Doublet.

And I don't know if that's like the official term for it or what, but like when you learn a word, then you see and hear at different places. Like, now I keep seeing it. and seeing it in that reference. And I feel so cool because I know, you know, I have it, I have it all in there. So there we are. Anyway, so those that haven't heard that, now you've learned that term. But I'll include that as our chat GPT prompt for this week of what are terms I may hear

at work that I should probably need to know and not Google on my work laptop. So look at it on your personal device. I'm going to read that. I feel so out of touch. Oh, gosh. Well, besties, we wish you a non-crashy work day. How would we even say to... Smooth, yeah.

Healthy, sound, peaceful. I don't know. All those things. You know, there's got a roll come up with some slang that's the opposite of crash out and we'll try to popularize it. So we're going to need each of you to support us in this.

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