Huberman Lab - How Smell, Taste & Pheromone-Like Chemicals Control You
Episode Date: June 21, 2021This episode explains how we sense chemicals through smell, taste, and pheromones. How things smell and taste and chemicals in the tears, breath, and on the skin of others have a profound effect on ho...w we feel, what we do, and our hormones. I explain the 3 types of responses to smell, the 5 types of tastes, the possible existence of sixth taste sense, and how the act of sniffing can make us learn and focus better. I explain how smell and taste reflect brain health and can assess and even promote brain regeneration. I discuss how eating specific categories of foods makes us crave more of those foods, including how to make sour things taste sweet and develop a heightened sense of smell and taste. For the full show notes and timestamps, visit hubermanlab.com. Thank you to our sponsors AG1 (Athletic Greens): https://athleticgreens.com/huberman LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/huberman Supplements from Momentous https://www.livemomentous.com/huberman Title Card Photo Credit: Mike Blabac Disclaimer
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element, you can go to element LMNT.com slash Huberman. This month, we've been talking
about the senses, how we detect things in our environment.
The last episode was all about vision, how we take light and convert that information
into things that we can perceive, like colors and faces and motion, things of that sort,
as well as how we use light to change our biology in ways that are subconscious, that we
don't realize, things like mood and metabolism and levels of alertness.
Today, we're going to talk about chemical sensing.
We're going to talk about the sense of smell,
our ability to detect odors in our environment.
We're also going to talk about taste,
our ability to detect chemicals
and make sense of chemicals that are put in our mouth
and into our digestive tract.
And we are going to talk about chemicals that are made by other human beings that powerfully
modulate the way that we feel our hormones and our health.
Now, that last category are sometimes called pheromones.
However, whether or not pheromones exist in humans is rather controversial.
There actually hasn't been a clear example of a true human pheromonal effect, but what
is absolutely clear, what is undeniable, is that there are chemicals that human beings
make and release in things like tears onto our skin and sweat and even breath that powerfully
modulate or control the biology of other individuals.
In fact, right now, even if you're completely alone, your chemical environment internally
is being controlled by external chemicals.
Your nervous system and your hormones and your metabolism are being modified by things
in your environment.
So, we're going to talk about those.
It's an absolutely fascinating aspect to our biology.
It's one of our most primordial meaning primitive aspects of our biology,
but it's still very active in all of us today.
This episode, believe it or not, will have a lot of tools, a lot of protocols.
Even though I'm guessing most of you
can probably smell your environment just fine,
that you know what you like to eat and what tastes good
and what doesn't taste good to you.
Today's episode is going to talk about tools
that will allow you to actually leverage
these chemical sensing mechanisms,
including how you smell, not how you smell
in the qualitative sense,
but how you smell in the verb sense, but how you smell in the verb sense,
the action of sniffing and smelling to enhance your sense of smell and to enhance your sense
of taste as well, believe it or not, to enhance your cognition, your ability to learn and
remember things.
Everything we're going to talk about, as always, is grounded in quality peer-reviewed studies
from some excellent laboratories.
I will provide some resources along the way, so that means tools and protocols and also
basic information you're going to learn a ton of neuroscience and a lot of biology
in general.
And I think what you'll come to realize by the end is that while we are clearly different
from the other animals, there are aspects to our biology that are very similar to that
of other animals in very interesting ways.
Before we dive into chemical sensing, I want to just briefly touch on a few things from the vision episode.
One is a summary of a protocol.
So I covered 13 protocols last episode.
If you haven't seen that episode, check it out.
Those protocols will allow you to be more alert and to see better over time.
If you follow them, all of them are zero cost.
You can find any and all of them at hubermanlab.com.
There's a link to those videos and tools and protocols.
Everything is timestamped.
The two protocols that I just want to remind everybody of are the protocol of near far viewing that all of us, regardless of age, should probably
spend about five minutes, three times a week, doing some near far viewing exercises.
So that would be bringing a pen or pencil up close to the point where you're about to cross
your eyes, but you don't cross your eyes.
And then out at some distance and then look beyond that pen or other object that you're
using off as far as you can into the distance. It would be great if you could do this on a balcony
or deck and then look way off in the distance and then bring it back in. This is going to exercise
that accommodation reflects the change in the shape of the lens can help offset a number of
things including myopia, near-sidedness. The other one is this incredible study that showed that two hours a day outside, even if
you're doing other things while you're outside, can help offset myopia, near-sidedness.
So try and get outside.
It's really the sunlight and the blue light, right?
Everyone's been demonizing blue light out there, but blue light is great.
Provided, it's not super, super bright.
And really close to your eyes, Blue Light is great. Provided it's not super, super bright and really close
to your eyes. Blue Light is terrific. If it comes from sunlight, two hours a day outside
is going to help offset myopia, near-sidedness. That's a lot of time. I think most of us
are not getting that time, but since you can do other things like gardening or reading
or walking or running, if you can get that two hours outside, your visual system and your
brain will benefit.
I also would like to make one brief correction to something that I said incorrectly in the
previous episode.
At the end of the episode, I talked about lutein and how lutein may help offset some moderate
to severe age-related macular degeneration.
As well, I talked about how some people are supplementing with
lutein, even though they don't have age-related
macular degeneration, with the idea of mind that it might
help offset some vision loss as they get older.
I said lutein, and lutein was the correct thing to say.
But once or twice, when I started speaking fast,
I said lucine and not Lutine.
I want to emphasize that Lucine and Amino acid,
very interesting, important for muscle building,
covered in previous episodes.
But Lutine, LUT, EIN, is the molecule in compound
that I was referring to in terms of supplementing
for sake of vision.
So I apologize, please forgive me, I misspoke.
A couple of you caught that right away in listening to the episode after it went up, I realized
that I had misspoken.
So luteen for vision, lucine for muscles and muscle growth and strength, et cetera.
Before we dive into the content of today's episode, I want to just briefly touch on color
vision.
Many of you asked questions about color vision and color perception.
And indeed color perception is a fascinating aspect of the human visual system.
It's one of the things that makes us unique.
There are certainly other animals out there that can detect all the colors of the rainbow.
Some can even detect into the infrared and to the far red that we can't see.
But nonetheless, human color vision red that we can't see.
But nonetheless, human color vision provided
that somebody isn't colorblind is really remarkable.
And if you're interested in color vision
or you wanna answer questions about art
or about, for instance, why that dress that showed up online
a few years ago looks blue to you
and yellow to somebody else,
all the answers to that are in this terrific book, which is what is color? 15 questions and answers on the science of color. I did not
write this book. I wish I had. The book is by Ariel and Joan X-Dut. That's ECKSTUT. So
it's what is color? 50 questions and answers on the science of color. It's an absolutely
fabulous book. I have no business relationship to them.
I did help them get in contact
with some color vision scientists when they reached out to me.
And you can know that all the information in the book
was vetted by excellent color vision scientists.
It's a really wonderful and beautiful book.
The illustrations are beautiful.
If you're somebody who's interested in design or art,
or you're just curious about the science of color,
it's a terrific book, I highly recommend it.
If you just look it up online,
there are a variety of places
that will allow you to access the book.
So let's talk about sensing chemicals
and how chemicals control us.
In our environment, there are a lot
of different physical stimuli.
There is light photons, which are light energy, and those
land on your retinas, and your retinas tell your brain about them, and your brain creates
this thing we call vision. There are sound waves, literally particles moving through the
air and reverberations that create what we call sound and hearing. And of course, there are mechanical stimuli,
pressure, light touch, scratch, tickle, et cetera
that lands on our skin or the blowing of a breeze
or that deflects the hairs on our skin.
And we can sense mechanical touch, mechanical sensation.
And there are chemicals.
There are things floating around in the environment,
which we call volatile chemicals. So volatile sounds oftentimes like emotionally volatile,
but it just means that they're floating around out there. So when you actually smell something,
like let's say you smell a wonderfully smelling rose or cake, Yes, you are inhaling the particles into your nose.
There are literally little particles of those chemicals
are going up into your nose and being detected by your brain.
Also, if you smell something putrid, disgusting,
or awful, use your imagination,
those particles are going up into your nose
and being detected by neurons
that are part of your brain.
Other ways of getting chemicals into our system is by putting them in our mouth, by literally
taking foods and chewing them, or sucking on them and breaking them down into their component
parts.
And that's one way that we sense chemicals with a thing, our tongue.
And there are chemicals that can enter through other mucosal linings and other kind of,
just think damp sticky linings of your body.
And the main ones would be the eyes.
So you've got your nose, your eyes, and your mouth.
But mainly when we have chemicals coming in our system, it's through our nose or through our mouth, although sometimes
through our skin, certain things can go transdermal, not many, and through our eyes. So these
chemicals, we sometimes bring into our body, into our biology, through deliberate action.
We select the food, we chew that food, and we do it intentionally.
Sometimes they're coming into our body
through non-deliberate action.
We enter an environment and they're smoke,
and we smell the smoke,
and as a consequence, we take action.
Sometimes we are forced to eat something
because somebody tells us we should eat it
or we do it to be polite.
So there are all these ways that chemicals
can make it into our body. Sometimes, however, other people are actively making chemicals with
their body. Typically, this would be with their breath, with their tears, or possibly, I
want to underscore possibly, by making what are called pheromones, molecules that they
release into the environment, typically through the breath, that enter our system through our nose, our eyes, or our mouth, that fundamentally
change our biology.
I will explain how smell and taste and these pheromones effects work, but I'll just give
an example, which is a very salient and interesting one that was published about 10 years ago in the
journal Science. Science magazine is one of the three what we call apex journals. There
are a lot of journals out there, but for those of you that want to know, Science Magazine,
Nature Magazine and Cell are considered the three top kind of apex journals. They are the
most stringent in terms of getting papers accepted there,
even reviewed there. They have about a 95% rejection rate at the front gate, meaning they don't
even review 95% of what gets sent to them. Of the things that they do decide to review then
get sent out, a very small percentage of those get published. It's very stringent. This paper came
out in science showing that humans, men in particular in this study, have
a strong biological response and hormonal response to the tears of women.
What they did is they had women, and in this case, it was only women for whatever reason,
cry, and they collected their tears.
Then those tears were smelled by male subjects,
or male subjects got what was essentially
the control which was the saline.
Men that smelled these tears that were evoked by sadness
had a reduction in their testosterone levels
that was significant. They also had a reduction in their testosterone levels that was significant.
They also had a reduction in brain areas that were associated with sexual arousal.
Now, before you run off with your interpretations about what this means and criticize the
study for any variety of reasons, let's just take a step back.
I will criticize the study for a variety of reasons too.
One is that they only used female tiers and male subjects.
So it would have been nice for them to also use female tiers
and female subjects, smelling those, male tiers
and male subjects smelling those, male tiers
and female subjects smelling those, and so on.
They didn't do that.
They did have a large number of subjects,
so that's good, that adds power to the study.
And they did have to collect these tears by having the women watch a,
what was essentially a sad scene from a movie.
They actually recruited subjects that had a high propensity
for crying at sad movies,
which was not all women.
It turned out that the people that they recruited
for the study were people who said,
yes, I tend to cry when I see sad things in movies.
What they're really trying to do is just get tears that were authentically cried in response
to sadness, as opposed to putting some irritant in the eye and collecting tears that were evoked
by something else, like just having the eyes irritated.
Nonetheless, what this study illustrates
is that there are chemicals in tears
that are evoking or changing the biology of other individuals.
Now, most of us don't think about sniffing
or smelling other people's tears,
but you can't imagine how in close couples
or in family members or even close friendships, et cetera,
that we are often in close proximity to other people's tears.
Now, I didn't select this study as an example
because I wanna focus on the effects of tears
on hormones per se,
although I do find the results really interesting.
I chose it because I wanted to just emphasize
or underscore the fact that chemicals that are made by other
individuals are powerfully modulating our internal state.
And that's something that most of us don't appreciate.
I think most of us can appreciate the fact that if we smell something putrid, we tend to
retract or if we smell something delicious, we tend to lean into it.
But there are all these ways in which chemicals are affecting our biology and interpersonal communication using chemicals. It's not something that we hear
that often about, but it's super interesting. So let's talk about smell and what smell is and how
it works. I'm going to make this very basic, but I am going to touch on some of the core elements
of the neurobiology. So here's how smell works.
Smell starts with sniffing.
That may come as no surprise, but no volatile chemicals can enter our nose unless we inhale
them.
If our nose is occluded or if we're actively exhaling, it's much more difficult for
smells to enter our nose, which is why people cover their nose when something smells bad.
Now, the way that these volatile odors come into the nose is interesting.
The nose has a mucosolining mucus that is designed to trap things, to actually bring things
in and get stuck there.
At the base of your brain, so you could actually imagine this, or if you wanted, you could touch the roof of your mouth,
or right above the whole mouth,
about two centimeters is your ol' factory bulb.
The ol' factory bulb is a collection of neurons,
and those neurons actually extend out of the skull,
out of your skull, into your nose,
into the mucosal lining.
So what this means in kind of a literal sense
is that you have neurons that extend their little,
little dendrites and axoneline-like things
or little processes as we call them,
out into the mucus and they respond
to different odorant compounds.
Now the olfactory neurons also send a branch deeper
into the brain and they split off into three different
paths.
So one path is for what we call innate odor responses.
So you have some hardwired aspects to the way that you smell the world, that were there
from the day you were born and that will be there until the day you die. These are the pathways and
the neurons that respond to things like smoke, which as you can imagine, there's a highly
adaptive function to being able to detect burning things because burning things generally means
lack of safety or impending threat of some kind. It calls for action and indeed these neurons
project to a central area of the
brain called the amygdala, which is often discussed in terms of fear, but it's really a fear
and threat detection. So some compounds, some chemicals in your environment, when you smell
them, unless you're trained to overcome them because you're a firefighter, you will naturally
have a heightened level of alertness. You will sense threat.
And if you're in sleep even, it will wake you up.
Okay, so that's a good thing.
It's kind of an emergency system.
You also have neurons in your nose that respond to odorants or combinations of odorants
that evoke a sense of desire and what we call appetitive behaviors, approach behaviors
that make you want to move toward something.
So when you smell a delicious cookie
or some dish that's really savory
that you really like, or a wonderful orange,
and you say, mmm, or it feels delicious
or it smells delicious, that's because of these innate pathway,
these pathways that require no learning whatsoever.
Now some of the pathways from the nose, these olfactory neurons into the brain, are involved
in learned associations with odors.
Many people have this experience that they can remember the smell of their grandmother's home or their grandmother's hands even,
or the smell of particular items baking or on the stove in a particular environment.
Typically, these memories tend to be of a kind of nurturing sort of feeling safe and protected,
but one of the reasons why olfaction, smell,
is so closely tied to memory is because olfaction
is the most ancient sense that we have,
or I should say chemical sensing is among the most primitive
in ancient senses that we have,
probably almost certainly evolved before vision
and before hearing.
But when we come into the world,
because we're still learning about the statistics of life,
about who's friendly and who's not friendly,
and where's a fun place to be,
and where's a boring place to be,
that all takes a long time to learn,
but the olfactory system seems to imprint,
seems to lay down memories very early,
and to create these very powerful associations. And if you think about it long enough and hard enough, many of you can probably realize
that there are certain smells that evoke a memory of a particular place or person or context.
And that's because you also have pathways out of the nose that are not for innate behaviors like cringing or repulsion or gagging
or for that repetitive um sensation, but that just remind you of a place or a thing or a context
could be flowers in spring, could be grandmothers home and cookies. This is a very common occurrence
and it's a very common occurrence because this generally exists in all of us.
So we have pathway for innate responses and a pathway for learned responses.
And then we have this other pathway.
And in humans, it's a little bit controversial as to whether or not it sits truly separate
from the standard olfactory system or whether or not it's its own system embedded in there,
but that they call the accessory
olfactory pathway.
Accessory olfactory pathway is what in other animals is responsible for true pheromone
effects.
We will talk about true pheromone effects, but for example, in rodents and in some primates,
including mandrels, if you've ever seen mandrel, they have these
like beak noses, things you may have seen them at the zoo.
Look them up if you haven't seen them already.
M-A-N-D-R-I-L-S.
Mandrels, there are strong pheromone effects.
Some of those include things like if you take a pregnant female rodent or mandrel, you
take away the father that created those fetuses or fetus and you introduce
the scent of the urine or the fur of a novel male. She will spontaneously abort or miscarry those
fetuses. It's a very powerful effect. In humans, it's still controversial whether
not anything like that can happen, but it's a very powerful, fair, monol effect in other
animals. Another example of a fair, mon effect is called the Vandenberg effect, named
after the person who discovered this effect, where you take a female of a given species
that has not entered puberty. You expose her to the scent or the urine
from a sexually competent, meaning post-puberadol male, and she spontaneously goes into puberty
earlier.
Something about the scent triggers something through this accessory olfactory system.
This is a true, fair, monol effect and creates ovulation, right?
And menstruation or in rodents, it's an ester cycle, not a menstrual cycle. So this is not
to say that the exact same things happen in humans. In humans, as I mentioned earlier,
there are chemical sensing between individuals that may be independent of the nose and we
will talk about those. But those are basically the three paths
by which smells odors impact us.
So I want to talk about the act of smelling.
And if you are not somebody who is very interested in smell, but you are somebody who is interested
in making your brain work better, learning faster, remembering more things, this next
little segment is for you because it turns out that how you smell,
meaning the act of smelling, not how good or bad you smell,
but the act of smelling, sniffing and inhalation,
powerfully impacts how your brain functions
and what you can learn and what you can't learn.
Breathing generally consists of two actions,
inhaling and exhaling.
And we have the option, of course, to do that through our nose or our mouth.
I've talked on previous episodes about the fact that there are great advantages to being
a nasal breather and there are great disadvantages to being a mouth breather.
There are excellent books and data on this.
There's the recent book, Breath by James Nestor,
which is an excellent book,
that describes some of the positive effects
of nasal breathing as well as other breathing practices.
There's also the book, Jaws,
by my colleagues Paul Erlich and Sandra Conn,
with a forward by Jared Diamond,
and an introduction by Robert Sapolsky from Stanford.
So that's a book, Chaka Block with heavy hitter authors,
that describes how being a nasal breather is beneficial for jaw structure, for immune system
function, et cetera. Breathing in through your nose, sniffing actually has positive effects
on the way that you can acquire and remember information.
Nome Sobles Group, originally at UC Berkeley and then at the Weitzmann Institute,
has published a number of papers that I'd like to discuss today. One of them, Human Non-Olfactory Cognition of Faes Locked with Inhalation, this was published in Nature,
Human Behavior and excellent journal.
Showed that the act of inhaling has a couple of interesting and powerful consequences. First of all, as we inhale, the brain increases in arousal. Our level of alertness and attention increases when
we inhale as compared to when we exhale. Now of course with every inhale, there's an exhale.
You could probably double up on your inhales if you're doing size or some of the physiological
size I've talked about these before, it's a double inhale, followed by an exhale, something
like that, or if you're speaking, you're going to change your cadence and ratio of inhales
and exhales.
But typically, we inhale, then we exhale. As we inhale, what this paper shows is that the level of alertness
goes up in the brain.
And this makes sense because as the most primitive and primordial sense by which we interact with our environment
and bring chemicals into our system and detect our environment. Inhaling is a cue for the rest of the brain to essentially to pay attention to what's happening,
not just to the odors. And as the name of this paper suggests, human non-olfactory cognition,
phase locked with inhalation, what that means is that the act of inhaling itself wakes up the brain.
It's not about what you're perceiving or what you're smelling. And indeed sniffing as
an action, inhaling as an action has a powerful effect on your ability to be alert, your
ability to attend, to focus, and your ability to remember information. When we exhale, the brain goes through a subtle,
but nonetheless significant dip in level of arousal and ability to learn. So what does this mean?
How should you use this knowledge? Well, you could imagine, and I think this would be beneficial
for most people, to focus on nasal breathing while doing any kind
of focused work that doesn't require that you speak or eat or ingest something.
There is a separate paper published in the journal Neuroscience that show that indeed,
if subjects, human subjects are restricted to breathing through their nose, they learn
better than if they have the option of breathing through their mouth or a combination
of their nose and mouth.
These are significant effects in humans using modern techniques from excellent groups.
So sniffing itself is a powerful modulator of our cognition and our ability to learn.
You can imagine all sorts of ways that you might apply that as a tool, and I suggest that
you play with it a bit, that if you're having a hard time staying
awake and alert, you're having a hard time remembering information, you feel like you
have a kind of attention deficit, nonclinical, of course, nasal breathing ought to help,
extending or making your inhales more intense ought to help.
Now this isn't really about chemical sensing per se, but here's where it gets interesting
and exciting. If you are somebody who doesn't have a very good sense of smell, or you're
somebody who simply wants to get better at smelling and tasting things, you can actually
practice sniffing. I know that sounds ridiculous, but it turns out that simply sniffing
nothing, so doing something like this, I guess the microphone
sort of has a smell.
I guess a pen doesn't have a smell.
Turns out that doing a series of inhales and of course each one is followed by an exhale,
10 or 15 times, and then smelling an object like an orange or another item of food or even the skin of somebody else, will
lead to an increase in your ability to perceive those odors.
Now there are probably two reasons for that.
One reason is that the brain systems of detecting things are waking up as a mere consequence
of inhaling.
Okay, so this is sort of the olfactory equivalent of opening your eyes wider in order to see more or less.
Okay, last episode I talked about how opening your eyes wider
actually increases your level of alertness.
It's not just that your level of alertness
causes your eyes to be open wider.
Opening your eyes wider can actually increase
your level of alertness.
Well, it turns out that breathing more deeply
through the nose wakes up your brain
and it creates a heightened sensitivity of the
neurons that relate to smell.
And there's a close crossover, I'm sure you know this, between smell and taste.
If any of you have ever had a cold, or you've had for whatever reason you've lost your
sense of smell, you've become what they call a nosmic.
Your sense of taste suffers also.
We'll talk a little bit more about what that is in a few minutes.
But as a first protocol, I'd really like all of you
to consider becoming nasal breathers
while you're trying to learn, while you're trying to listen,
while you're trying to wake up your brain in any way
and learn and retain information.
This is a powerful tool.
Now, there are other ways to wake up your brain more as well.
For instance, the use of smelling salts.
I'm not recommending that you do this necessarily, but there are excellent peer-reviewed data showing
that, indeed, if you use smelling salts, which are mostly of the sort that include ammonia,
ammonia is a very toxic scent.
But it's toxic in a way that triggers this innate pathway,
the pathway from the nose to the amygdala, and wakes up the brain body in a major way.
This is why they use smelling salts when people pass out.
This is why fighters use to use, or maybe sometimes still use, smelling salts in order
to heighten their level of alertness.
This is why power lifters will inhale smelling salts. They work because they trigger the fear and kind of overall arousal systems
of the brain. This is why I think most people probably shouldn't use ammonia or smelling
salts to try and wake up, but they really do work. If you ever smelled smelling salts
and I have, I tried this, they give you a serious chult. It's like six espresso infused into your bloodstream all at once.
You are wide awake immediately and you feel a heightened sense of kind of desire to move
because you release adrenaline into your body.
Now inhaling through your nose and doing nasal breathing is not going to do that.
It's going to be a more subtle version of waking up your system, of alerting your brain
overall.
And for those of you that are interested in having a richer,
a more deep connection to the things that you smell and taste,
including other individuals, perhaps, not just food,
practicing or enhancing your sense of sniffing,
your ability to sniff might sound like a kind of ridiculous
protocol, but it's actually a kind of fun and cool experiment that you can do. You just do the simple
experiment of taking, for instance, an orange, you smell it, try and gauge your level of perception
of how orangeish it smells or lemon-ee, lemon-ish, lemon-ee, I don't know, is it lemon-ish or lemon-ee?
Lemon-ee, it smells, then set it away, do 10 or 15 inhales, followed by exhales,
of course, or just through the nose, not going to do all 10 or 15, and then smell it again,
and you'll notice that your perception of that smell, the kind of richness of that smell
will be significantly increased.
And that's again, for two reasons. One, the brain is in a position
to respond to it better. Your brain has been aroused by the mere act of sniffing,
but also the neurons that respond to that lemon odor, that lemon-y or odor, are going to respond
better. So you can actually have a heightened experience of something. And that, of course,
will also be true for the taste system. You also can really train your sense of smell to get much, much better.
When Nome Sobles Group was at Berkeley, I have to be a graduate student around that time.
And every once in a while I'd look outside and there would be people crawling around
on the grass with goggles on, gloves on, and these hoods on, with earmuffs and they
looked ridiculous. But what they were doing is they were actually learning to
follow scent trails.
So in the world of dogs, you have sight hounds that use their eyes in order to navigate
and find things.
And you have scent hounds that use their nose.
And the scent hounds are remarkable.
They can be trained to detect a scent.
These are the sniffing, you know, the bomb sniffing and the drug sniffing dogs in airports. There are now dogs actually that can sniff out COVID infections with a very
high degree of accuracy. They can be trained to that. There's something about the COVID
and similar infections that the body produces probably in the immune response. Some odors
and the dogs are, I think as high as 90% in some cases, maybe even 95% accuracy,
just remarkable.
There are theories that dogs can sniff out cancer.
This stuff all exceeds statistical significance.
It's still a little bit mysterious in some ways, but you may not ever achieve the olfactory
capabilities of a centound, but what Nome Sobles lab did is they had people completely eliminate their visual
experience by having them wear dark glasses or goggles.
So they couldn't see, they couldn't hear, they couldn't sense anything with their sense
of touch.
They had thick gloves on, but they had these masks on where just their nasal passages
were open and people could in a fairly short amount of time learn to follow a chocolate scent
trail on the ground, which is not something that most people want to do, but what they
showed using brain imaging, et cetera, and subsequent studies is that the human brain,
you can learn to really enhance your sense of smell and become very astute in distinguishing whether or not one particular odor or combinations
of odors is such that it's less than or more than a different odor, for instance.
Now, why would you want to do this?
Well, if you like to eat as much as I do, one of the things that can really enhance your
sense of pleasure from the experience of ingesting food is to enhance your sense of smell.
And if you don't have a great sense of smell, or if you have a sense of smell that's really
so good that it's always picking up bad odors, we'll talk about that in a minute, well,
then you might want to tune up your sense of smell by doing this practice of 10 or 15 breaths,
excuse me, sniff, not breaths, sniffs, and then interacting
with some food item or thing that you're interested in smelling more of.
So these could be the ingredients that you're cooking with.
I really encourage you to try and really smell them.
You sometimes hear this as kind of a mindfulness practice, like, ooh, really smell the food,
really taste the food.
And we always hear about that as kind of a mindfulness and presence thing, but you actually
can increase
the sensitivity of your old factory
and your taste system by doing this.
And it has long-term effects.
That's what's so interesting.
This isn't the kind of thing that you have to do
every time you eat.
You don't have to be the weirdo in the restaurant
that's like picking up the radish and you know,
like jamming it up your nostrils.
Please don't do that.
You don't have to necessarily smell everything,
although it's nice sometimes to smell the food
that you're about to eat and as you eat it.
But it has long-term effects in terms of your ability
to distinguish and discriminate different types of odors.
And these don't even have to be very pungent foods
that turns out, the studies show
that doesn't have to be some really stinky cheese.
There are cheese shops that I've walked into
where like I just basically gag, I can't handle it.
I just can't be in there. It's just it just overwhelms me. Other people,
they love that smell. So you have to tune it to your interest and experience, but I think even
for you, faster is out there. Everybody eats at some point. Everybody ingests chemicals through
their mouth. And one of the ways that you can powerfully increase your relationship to that experience and make
it much more positive is through just the occasional practice of 10 or 15 sniffs of nothing, which
almost sounds ridiculous like how could that be, but now you understand why.
It's because of the way that the sniffing action increases the alertness of the brain as
well as increasing the sensitivity of the system. No other system that I'm aware of in our body is as amenable to these kinds of behavioral
training shifts and allow them to happen so quickly.
I would love to be able to tell you that just doing 10 or 15 near-far exercises with a pen
or going outside for 10 or 15 seconds each morning is going to completely change the way
that you see the world, but it actually isn't the case.
You actually, it requires more training, a little bit more effort in the visual system,
in the olfactory system, in your smell system, and in your taste system, just the tiniest
bit of training and attention and sniffing, inhaling, can radically change your relationship
to food, such that you actually start to feel very different as a consequence
of ingesting those foods as well as becoming more discerning about which foods you like
and which ones you don't like.
And we're going to talk about that because there's a really wonderful thing that happens
when you start developing a sensitive palate and a sensitive sense of smell in a way that
allows you to guide your eating and smelling decisions and maybe even interpersonal decisions about who you spend time with or
mate with or whatever, in a way that is really in line with your biology. In fact, how well we can smell and taste things is actually a very strong indication of our brain health.
Now, that's not to say that if you have a poor sense of smell or a poor sense of taste that you're somehow brain damage or you're going, you know, you're going to have dementia. Although
sometimes early signs of dementia or loss of neurons in other regions of the brain relate to say
Parkinson's can show up first as a loss of sense of smell. It, again, it's not causal and it's
certainly not the case that every time you have a sudden loss of smell,
that there's necessarily brain damage,
I wanna be very clear about that,
but they are often correlated.
There's also a lot of interest right now
in loss of sense of smell
because one of the early detection signs of COVID-19
was a loss of sense of smell.
So I just briefly wanna talk about loss of sense of smell
and regaining sense of smell and taste I just briefly want to talk about loss of sense of smell and regaining
sense of smell and taste because these have powerful implications for overall health and in
fact can indicate something about brain damage and can even inform how quickly we might be recovering
from something like a concussion. So our olfactory neurons, these neurons in our nose that detect odors are really unique
among other brain neurons because they get replenished throughout life.
They don't just regenerate, but they get replenished.
So regeneration is when something is damaged and it regrows.
These neurons are constantly turning over throughout our lifespan.
They're constantly being replenished.
They're dying off and they're being replaced by new ones.
This is an amazing aspect of our brain that's basically unique to these neurons.
One other region of the brain where there's a little bit of this maybe,
but these olfactory neurons, about every three or four weeks, they die.
And when they die, they are replaced by new ones
that come from a different region of the brain.
A region called the subventricular zone.
The name isn't as important, but as the phenomenon,
but these neurons are born in the ventricle,
the area of your brain that's a hole,
that contains, it's not an empty hole,
it's a hole basically that contains cerebral spinal fluid.
Well, there's a little subventricular zone. There's a little zone below sub ventricles.
And that zone, if you are exercising regularly, if your dopamine levels are high enough,
those little cells there are like stem cells. They are stem cells and they spit out what are called little neuroblast, those little neuroblast, migrate into the front of your brain and then shimmy, they kind of move
through what's called the rostral migratory stream. They kind of shimmy along and land back in your
olfactory bulb, settle down and extend little wires into your olfactory mucosa. This is an ongoing
process of what we call neurogenesis or the birth of new neurons.
Now, this is really interesting because other neurons in your cortex, in your retina,
in your cerebellum, they do not do this. They are not continually replenished throughout life,
but these neurons, these olfactory neurons, are. They are special.
And there are a number of things that seem to increase the amount of olfactory neurons are, they are special. And there are a number of things that seem to increase the amount of olfactory neuron
neurogenesis.
There is evidence that exercise, blood flow, can increase olfactory neuron neurogenesis,
although those data are fewer in comparison to things like social interactions or actually
interacting with odorants of different kinds.
So if you're somebody who doesn't smell things well,
you have a poor sense of smell.
Your olfactory system doesn't seem very sensitive.
More sniffing, more smelling is going to be good.
And then the molecule dopamine, this neuromodulator
that is associated with motivation and drive.
And in some cases, if it's very, very high with mania,
or if it's very, very low with depression, or Parkinson's.
But for most people, where dopamine is in essentially
normal ranges, dopamine is also a powerful trigger
of the establishment of these new neurons
and their migration into the olfactory bulb
and your ability to smell.
Now, you don't want to confuse correlation with causation.
So if you're not good at smelling, does that mean you have low dopamine?
No, not necessarily.
If you have low dopamine, does that mean that you have a poor sense of smell?
No, not necessarily.
Some people who take antidepressants of the sort that impact the dopamine system strongly
like well, butrin will report a sudden
meaning within a couple of days increase in their ability to smell particular odors
and it's a very striking effect. Some people when they are in a new relationship because dopamine
and the hormones testosterone and estrogen are associated with novelty and the sorts of behaviors
that often are associated with new relationships.
Those three molecules dopamine testosterone and estrogen kind of work together and oftentimes
people will say or report when they're newly in love or in a new relationship that they
they're just obsessed with or they just so enjoy the scent of another person so much
so that they like to borrow the other person's clothing or they'll sniff the other person's clothing
or they can even just in the absence of the person they can imagine their smell and feel a biological response,
something that we'll talk more about. So these neurons turn over throughout the lifespan and as we age,
we actually can lose our sense of smell and it's likely, I want to underscore likely, that that loss of sense of smell as we age is correlated with the loss of other neurons in the retina, in the ear,
so loss of vision, loss of hearing, loss of smell, loss of the sense apparatus, which are
neurons, is correlated with aging. So what we've been talking about today is the ability
to sense these odors. But what I'd like to do is empower you with tools that will allow you to keep these systems tuned up.
Last time we talked about tuning up
and keeping your visual system tuned up and healthy
regardless of age.
Here we're talking about really enhancing
your olfactory abilities, your taste abilities
as well by interacting a lot with odors,
preferably positive odors, and sniffing more, inhaling
more, which almost sounds crazy, but now you understand why, even though it might sound
crazy, it's grounded in real mechanistic biology of how the brain wakes up and responds
to these chemicals.
Now, speaking of brain injury, olfactory dysfunction is a common theme in traumatic brain injury
for the following reason. These olfactory neurons, as I mentioned, extend wires into the mucosa of the nose, but they
also extend a wire up into the skull, and they extend up into the skull through what's
called the cribiform plate.
It's like a Swiss cheese type plate where they're going through, and if you get a head
hit, that bone, the cribiform plate, shears, those little wires off
and those neurons die. Now, eventually they'll be replaced, but there's a phenomenon by which
concussion and the severity of concussion and the recovery from a head injury can actually be
gauged in part, in part, not in whole, but in part by how well or fully one recovers their sense
of smell. So if you're somebody that unfortunately is or fully one recovers their sense of smell.
So if you're somebody that unfortunately has suffered a concussion, your sense of smell
is one read out by which you might evaluate whether or not you're regaining some of your
sensory performance.
Of course, there will be others like balance and cognition and sleep, et cetera.
But I'd like to refer you to a really nice paper, which is entitled Ulfactory Disfunction in Traumatic Brain Injury,
the role of neurogenesis.
The first author is Marin M.A.R.I.N.
The paper was published in Current Allergy and Asma Report.
This is 2020.
I spent some time with this paper.
It's quite good.
It's a review article.
I like reviews if they're peer-reviewed reviews
and in quality journals.
And what they discuss is, and I'll just read here briefly,
because they said it better than I could,
olfactory functioning disturbances are common
following traumatic brain injury, TBI,
and cannabis significant impact on the quality of life,
although there's no standard treatment for patients
with the loss of smell, now I'm paraphrasing,
post-injury, olf factory training has shown promise for beneficial effects.
Some of this involves, they go on to tell us the role of dopamine,
dopamine energy signaling, as I mentioned before.
But what does this mean?
This means that if you've had a head injury or repeated head injuries,
that enhancing your sense of smell is one way by which you can create new neurons.
And now you know how to enhance your sense of smell by interacting with things that have
an odor very closely and by essentially inhaling more, focusing on the inhale to wake up the
brain and to really focus on some of the nuance of those smells.
So you might do, for instance, a smell test by which you smell something like a lemon, put it down, do 10 inhales or so smell again, et cetera. You might also just take a more active role
in trying to taste and smell your food and taste and smell various things. I mean, please don't
ingest anything that's poisonous so you're not supposed to be ingesting. But you know what I mean.
Really tuning up this system, I think, is an excellent review. We're going to do an entire episode all about the use of the visual system in particular,
but also the olfactory system for treatment of traumatic brain injury as well as other
methods.
But I wanted to just mention it here because a number of people ask me about TBI, and here
again, we're in this place where the senses and our ability to sense these chemicals,
so these two holes in the front of our face are nostrils is a powerful readout and
Way to control brain function and nervous system function generally just a quick note about the use of smelling salts
I have a feeling that some of you may be interested in that and its application if you are interested in that
I recommend you go to the scientific literature first rather than you know straight, straight to some vendor or to the,
what do they call it these days?
Custillo.
Bro science.
He says, bro science, the bro science.
You can go to this paper, which is excellent and is real science, which is acute effects
of ammonia and halense on strength and power performance in trained men.
It's a randomized control trial.
It's published in the journal, Strength and Conditioning Research in 2018.
And it should be very easy to find.
I will provide a link to the so-called PubMed ID,
which is a string of numbers.
And we'll put that in the caption
if you want to go straight to that article.
It does show a significant, what they call,
this is what the words they use, literally, in quotes,
psyching up effect through the use of these ammonia
and halens and a significant increase in
maximal force, in forced development, in a variety of different movements.
So for those of you that are interested in ammonia and inhalants, so-called
smelling salts, that might be a good reference. The other thing I wanted to talk
about with reference to odors is this myth, which is that we don't actually
smell things in our dreams,
that we don't have a sense of smell. That's pure fiction. I don't know who came up with that.
It's very clear that we are capable of smelling things in our sleep. However, when we are in REM
sleep, Rapid Eye movement sleep, which is the sleep that predominates toward the second half of the night.
Our ability to wake up in response to odors is diminished.
It's not absent, but it's diminished.
If smoke comes into the room, we will likely wake up if the concentration of smoke is high
enough, regardless of the stage of sleep we're in.
But in REM sleep, we tend to be less likely to smell, to sniff.
And that actually was measured in a number of studies
that sniffing in sleep is possible.
So if you put an odor like a lemon
underneath someone's nostrils
in the early portion of the night, they will smell
and they will later, they will sniff, excuse me,
whether or not they smell or not,
I guess depends on them and when they shower last,
but they will definitely sniff. And they will report later, especially if you
wake them up soon after, that they had a dream or a percept of a scent of a lemon, for
instance, later in the night, it's harder for that relationship to be established. It's
likely that because of some of the paralysis associated with rapid eye movement sleep,
which is a healthy paralysis, so called sleep atonia. You don't want to act out your dreams and REM sleep, that there is a less
active tendency to sniff. And actually, this has real clinical implications. The ability to sniff
in response to the introduction of an odor is actually one way in which clinicians assess whether or not somebody's brain is so-called
brain dead.
That's not a nice term, but brain dead or whether or not they have the capacity to recover
from things like coma and other states of deep unconsciousness, or I guess you could
call it subconsciousness.
So what will happen is if someone has an injury and they're essentially out cold, the
production of a sniffing reflex or a sniffing response to, say, a lemon or some other odor
presented below the nostrils is considered a sign that the brain is capable of waking
up.
Now, that's not always the case, but it's one indication.
So, just like you could use a mechanoensation, so a toe pinch, for instance,
or scraping the bottom of somebody's bare foot
to see if they're conscious,
or shining light in their eyes.
These are all things that you've seen in movies and television,
or maybe you've seen in real life as well.
Well, odors and chemical sensing
is another way by which you can assess
whether or not the brain is capable of arousal.
And actually olfactory stimulation is one of the more prominent ones that's being used
in various clinics.
As a last point about specific odors and compounds that can increase arousal and alertness,
and this was simply through sniffing them, not through ingesting them, there are data,
believe it or not, there are good data on peppermint and the smell of peppermint.
Minty type sense, whether you like them or not, will increase attention.
And they can create the same sort of arousal response, although not as intensely or as
dramatically as ammonia salts can, for instance.
By the way, please don't go sniff real ammonia.
You could actually damage your olfactory epithelium.
If you do that too close to the ammonia,
if you're gonna use smelling salts,
be sure you work with someone or you know what you're getting
and how you're using this,
you can damage your olfactory pathway in ways
that are pretty severe.
You can also damage your vision.
You've ever teared up because you inhaled
something that was really noxious.
That is not a good thing.
It doesn't mean you necessarily cause damage,
but it means that you have irritated the mucosal lining
and possibly even the surfaces of your eyes.
So please be very, very careful.
Sents like peppermint, like these ammonia smelling salts.
The reason they wake you up is because they trigger
specific olfactory neurons that communicate
with the specific centers of the brain, namely the amygdala and associated neural circuitry
and pathways, that trigger alertness of the same sort that a cold shower, or an ice bath,
or a sudden surprise, or a stressful text message would evoke.
Remember, the systems of your body that produce arousal end alertness and attention and that cue
you for optimal learning, aka focus, those are very general mechanisms.
They involve very basic molecules like adrenaline and epinephrine, same thing, actually adrenaline
and epinephrine.
The number of stimuli, whether it's peppermint or ammonia, or a loud blast, the number
of stimuli that can evoke that adrenaline response
and that wake up response are near infinite.
And that's the beauty of your nervous system.
It was designed to take any variety of different stimuli,
place them into categories,
and then evoke different categories
of very general responses.
Now you know a lot about olfaction
and how the sense of smell works.
Here's another experiment that you can do.
I'll ask you right now.
Do you like, hate, or are you indifferent to the smell of microwave popcorn?
Some people, including one member of my podcast staff, says it's absolutely disgusting to them.
They feel like it's completely nauseating. I don't mind it at all.
In fact, I kind of like it. I think the smell of a microwave popcorn is kind of pleasant. I don't
particularly like it, but it's certainly not unpleasant. Some people have a gene that makes them
sensitive to the smell of things like microwave popcorn such that it smells like vomit.
of things like microwave popcorn such that it smells like vomit. I probably don't have that gene because I find the smell of microwave popcorn pretty pleasant. Some people hate
the smell of cilantro. Some people ingest asparagus and when they urinate they can smell the asparagus
in a very pungent way. other people can't smell it at all.
These are variants in genes that encode for what are called olfactory receptors.
Each olfactory sensory neuron expresses one odorant gene, one gene that codes for a receptor
that responds to a particular odor.
If you don't have that gene, you will not respond to that odor. So the reason why some people find the smell of microwave popcorn
to be very noxious, putrid, in fact, is because they have a gene that allows them
to smell the kind of putrid odor within that.
Other people who lack that gene just simply can't smell it.
So we are not all the same with respect to our sensory experience.
What one person finds delicious,
another person might find disgusting. I'll give a good example, which is that I absolutely
despise Gorgonzola and blue cheese. Absolutely despise it. It smells and tastes like dirty, moldy
socks to me. Some people love it. They crave it. Actually, some people get a visceral
response to it. And we will talk about how certain tastes can actually evoke very deep
biological responses, even hormonal responses when we talk about taste in a few minutes.
But there are these odors, for instance, in popcorn, it's the molecule to acetyl-1 pyroline,
popcorn, it's the molecule to acetyl-1 pyroline,
not proline, but pyroline, that gives off to some people, like me, a toasted smell,
as the sugars in the kernels heat.
But the compound is also found in things
like white bread and jasmine rice,
which don't have as punch into an odor.
But some people smell that,
and it smells like cat urine.
Now, there are scents, like musky scents and musty scents
that are secreted by animals like skunks
and other animals of the so-called mustalid family.
So these would be ferrets and other animals
that can spray in response to a fear
or if they just want to mark a territory
because they want to say that's mine.
Dogs incidentally have sent lands that they rub on things, cats have them too.
This must be odor.
Some people find actually quite pleasant.
Some people find it to be very noxious.
And that will depend, of course, on the concentration, right?
I'll never forget the first time Costello got sprayed by a skunk and it was awful.
I actually don't mind the smell of skunk at a distance. It's actually a little bit pleasant. I admit it's
a little bit pleasant to me. I don't think that makes me too weird because if you
ever read the book, all's quiet on the Western Front about World War One. There's
a description in there about the smell of skunk at a distance being mildly
pleasant. So the author of that book probably shared a similar olfactory profile to me or
I to them rather. But some people find even the tiniest bit of the smell of skunk or must
to be noxious or awful. Now of course in high concentrations it's really awful and unfortunately
poor Costello he was like literally red-eyed and just snorting and it was awful. There's
a joke about dogs that says it dogs either get skunked
one time and never again or 50 or 100 times. Costello has been skunked no fewer. I'm not making
this up. Has been skunked no fewer than 103 times. And that's because if he sees something or hear
something in the bushes, he just goes straight in. He does not learn. But if you like this, the musty
scent or musky scent,
well, that says something about the genes
that you express in your olfactory neurons,
it is completely inherited.
And if you don't like that scent,
if it's really noxious,
or you have this response to micro-A popcorn,
well, that means you have a different complement,
a different constellation, if you will,
of genes that make up for these olfactory sensory neurons and the receptors that they express.
Let's talk about taste.
Not whether or not you have taste or you don't have taste. There's no way for me to assess that.
But rather, how we taste things, meaning how we sense chemicals in food and in drink. There are essentially five, but scientists now believe there may be six things that we
taste, alone or in combination.
They are sweet taste, salty taste, bitter taste, sour taste, and umami taste.
Most of you have probably heard of Umami by now, it's UM-A-M-I. Umami is actually the name for a particular receptor
that you express on your tongue that detects savory taste.
So it's the kind of thing in braised meats. Sometimes people can even
get the activation of Umami by tomatoes or tomato sauces.
What are each of these tastes and taste receptors responsible for? And then we'll talk about the
sixth. Maybe you can guess what it is. I don't know if you can guess it now. I couldn't guess it. But
of the five tastes, each one has a specific utility or function. Each one has a particular group of neurons in your mouth, in your tongue, believe it or
not, that responds to particular chemicals and particular chemical structures.
It is a total myth, complete fiction that different parts of your tongue harbor different
taste receptors.
That high school textbook diagram that sweet is in one part of the tongue harbor different taste receptors. You know, that high school textbook diagram
that you know, sweet is in one part of the tongue
and sour is in another and bitters in another.
Complete fiction, just total fiction related
to very old studies that were performed
in a very poorly controlled way.
No serious biologists and certainly no one
that works on taste would contend that that's the way
that the taste receptors are organized.
They are completely intermixed along your tongue.
If you have heightened or decreased sensitivity to one of those five things,
I mentioned sweet, salty, bitter, umami or sour, at a one location in your tongue,
it likely reflects the density of overall receptors or something going on in your brain,
but not the differential distribution of those receptors.
So the sweet receptors are neurons that express a receptor
that respond to sugars.
In the same way that you have cones,
photoreceptors in your eye that respond to short, medium,
or long wavelength light, meaning blue, ash, green, ash,
or reddish light, you have a neuron light, meaning blue, ish, green, ish, or reddish light.
You have a neuron in or neurons plural in your tongue that respond to sugars.
And then those neurons, they don't say sweet, they don't actually send any sugar into the
brain.
They send what we call a volley, a barrage of action potentials of electrical signals
off into the brain.
It's an amazing system.
So all these receptors in your tongue make up what are called the neurons that give rise
to a nerve, a collection of wires, nerve bundles of what's called the gustatory nerve.
It goes from the tongue to the so-called nucleus of the solitary tracks, and some of you requested
names.
I usually don't like to include too many names,
for a sake of clarity,
but the gustatory nerve from the tongue
goes to the nucleus of the solitary track,
and then to the stalemus and to insular cortex.
You don't have to remember any of those names
if you don't want to,
but if you want mechanism, you want neural circuits,
that's the circuit, gustatory,
nerve from the tongue,
nucleus is a solitary tract in the brainstem,
then the phalamus and
then insular cortex.
And it is an insular cortex, this regenerative cortex that we sort out and make sense
of and perceive the various tastes.
Now, it's amazing because just taking a little bit of sugar or something sour, like a
little bit of lemon juice and touching it to the tongue within 100 milliseconds. Just 100 milliseconds, far less than one second,
you can immediately distinguish, ah, that sour, that sweet,
that's bitter, that's umami.
And that's an assessment that's made by the cortex.
Now, what do these different five receptors in code four?
Well, sweet, salty sweet salty bitter umami sour
But what are they really looking for? What are they sensing? Well sweet stuff signals the presence of energy of sugars
And while we're all trying or we're told that we should eat less sugar for a variety of reasons
The ability to sense whether or not a food has
Rapid energy source or could give rise to
glucose is essential.
So we have sweet receptors.
The salty receptors, these neurons are trying to sense whether or not there are electrolytes
in a given food or drink.
Electrolites are vitally important for the function of our nervous system and for our
entire body.
Sodium is what allows neurons to fire, what allows them to be electrically active. We also need potassium and magnesium.
Those are the ions that allow the neurons to be active. So the salty receptors, the reason
that they are there is to make sure that we are getting enough, but not too much salt.
We don't want to ingest things that are far too salty. Bitter receptors are there to make sure
we don't ingest things that are poisonous.
How do I know this?
How can I say that?
Even though I was definitely not consulted
at the design phase, how can I say that?
Well, the bitter receptors create a what we call
labeled line, a unique trajectory to the neurons
of the brainstem that control the gag reflex. If we
taste something very bitter, it automatically triggers the gag reflex. Now, some
people like bitter tastes. I actually like the taste of bitter coffee. Children
generally like sweet taste more than bitter taste, but even babies, if they
taste something bitter, they'll just immediately spit it up as it like the gag
reflex. Putrid smells will also evoke these same neurons.
So some people are very sensitive.
They have a very sensitive or low threshold vomit reflex.
You can, there was somebody in my lab early on.
We never did this intentionally, we were just laughing because it was so dramatic.
We would have a discussion.
Someone would say something about something kind of gross, appropriate for the workplace, but nonetheless gross, we are biologists.
It would say something and they would say, stop, stop, stop, I'm gonna throw up.
You know, and some people have a very low threshold, quick gag reflex.
Other people don't. Other people have a very stable stomach.
They don't, you know, they've rarely, if ever vomit.
The umami receptor isn't sensing savory because the body loves savory.
It's because savory is a signal for the presence of amino acids.
And we'll talk more about this, but the presence of amino acids in our gut and in our digestive
system and the presence of fatty acids is essential. There is in fact no essential
carbohydrate or sugar. Now, I'm not a huge proponent of ketogenic diets nor am I against them.
I think it's highly individual. You have to decide what's right for you. But everybody needs
amino acids to survive. The brain needs them and we need fatty acids, especially to build
a healthy brain during development. You need amino acids and fatty acids.
And the sour receptor, why would we have a sour receptor so that we could have those really
like sour candies?
I think they've gotten more and more sour over the years.
I admit, I don't eat candy much, but I do have a particular weakness for like a really
good, really sour sour like gummy peach
Or they've the gummy cherries are dipped in whatever that sour powder so I was a kid who I admitted
I like the lickamay thing. I like drink the powder. Please don't do this. Don't give this garbage to your kids
But I liked it. It was tasty, but sour
Receptors are not there so that you can ingest gummy, sour gummy peaches or something like that.
That's not why the system evolved.
It's there and we know it's there to detect the presence of spoiled or fermented food.
Fermented fruit has a sour element to it and fermented things while certainly some fermented
foods like sour, crout, and kimchi and things of that sort can be very healthy for us and are very healthy
in reducing inflammation.
They're great data on that.
Pro quality microbiome, et cetera.
Fermented fruit can be poisonous, right?
Alcohols are poisonous in many forms to our system.
And the sour receptor bearing neurons communicate to an area of the
brainstem that evokes the pucker response, closing of the eyes and essentially shutting
of the mouth and cringing away. I think cringe is like a thing now, my niece, whenever
I seem to say something or do something, it's either an eye roll, a cringe or both in combination. So the sour, the sweet, the salty, the bitter,
and the umami system, we're not there
so that we could have this wonderful palette of foods
that we enjoy so much.
They'll allow us to do that,
but they're there to make sure that we bring in
certain things to our system
and that we don't ingest other things.
Now, what's the sixth sense within the taste system,
not sixth sense generally, but within the taste system?
What's this punitive possible sixth receptor?
I already kind of hinted at it
when I talked about fatty acids.
There are now data to support the idea,
although there's still more work that needs to be done,
that we also have receptors on our tongue that sense fat
still more worth it needs to be done, that we also have receptors on our tongue that sense fat.
And that because fat is so vital for the function of our nervous system and the other organs
of our body, that we are sensing the fat content in food.
Maybe this is why I can only eat half, but no less than half of a jar of almond butter
or peanut butter in one sitting.
I just can't, unless it's not salt in, which case it makes no sense to me.
But it's remarkable how that texture and also the flavor, but that texture of fat, I love
butter.
I am guilty.
And Costello is definitely guilty of eating pats of butter from time to time.
I have no guilt about this.
People eat pats of cheese.
Why shouldn't we eat a pat of butter?
If you think that's gross, then maybe I have greater abundance of the fat receptors in my tongue,
maybe I have a fat tongue than you do, but nonetheless, the ability to sense fat here in our
mouth seems to be critical. You can imagine why that is. I want to talk about the tongue
and the mouth as an extension of your digestive tract.
I know that might not be pleasant to think about, but when you look at it through the lens that I'm
about to provide, it will completely change the way you think about the gut brain and about all the
stuff that you've heard in these recent years about, oh, you know, we have the second brain,
it's all these neurons in our gut. I've been chuckling through these last few years as people have gotten so excited about the gut brain
not because of their excitement.
I think the excitement is wonderful,
but we always knew that the nervous system extended
out of the brain and into the body.
And people seem kind of overwhelmed and surprised
by the idea that we have neurons in our gut
that can sense things like sugars and fatty acids.
And I think those are beautiful discoveries.
Don't get me wrong.
Diego Borges' lab out of Duke University has done beautiful study showing that within
the mucosal lining of our gut, we have neurons that sense fatty acids, sugars, and amino
acids.
And that when we ingest something that contains one or two or three of those things, there's
a signal sent via the vagus nerve up into what's called the Nodose ganglion, N-O-D-O-S-E, and then into the brain
where it secretes dopamine, which makes us want more of that thing. It makes us more
motivated to pursue and eat more of that thing. That's either fatty or umami, it's savory, or has a sweet taste.
Anyone are two or three of those qualities,
independent of the taste.
Now, I think those are beautiful data,
but we know that this thing, the mouth,
if those of you listening, I'm just,
I got my fingers in my mouth,
that's why I sound like I'm,
that's something in my mouth.
This thing in the front of our face,
we use it for speaking,
but it is the front of our digestive tract.
We are essentially a series of tubes,
and that tube starts with your mouth
and heads down into your stomach.
And so that you would sense so much
of the chemical constituents of the stuff
that you might bring into your body
or they might want to expel and not swallow
or not interact with.
By being able to smell it, is it putrid?
Does it smell good?
Does it taste good?
Is this safe?
Is it salty?
Is it so sour that it's fermented and is going to poison me?
Is it so bitter that it could poison me?
Is it so savory that, yes, I want more and more of this.
Well, then you'd want to trigger dopamine.
That's all starting in the mouth.
So you have to understand that you were equipped
with this amazing chemical sensing apparatus
we call your mouth and your tongue.
And those little bumps on your tongue
that they call the papillais,
those are not your taste buds.
Surrounding those little papillais,
like little rivers, are these little dense and indentations.
And what dense and indentations do in a tissue is they allow more surface area, they allow
you to pack more receptors.
So down in those grooves are where all these little neurons and their little processes
are with these little receptors for sweet, salty, bitter, umami sour, and maybe fat as well.
So it's this incredible device that you've been equipped with that you can use
to interact with various components of the outside world and decide whether
or not you want to bring them in or not.
Just as you can lose those olfactory neurons, if you happen to get hit on the head,
or you have some other thing, maybe it was an infection that caused loss of those
olfactory sensory neurons, you can also lose taste receptors in your mouth.
If you've ever eaten something that's too hot, not spicy hot, but too hot, you burn your
tongue, you burn receptors.
It takes about a week to recover those receptors.
For some people, it's a little bit more quickly, but if you burn your tongue badly
by ingesting a soup that's too hot or a beverage that's too hot, you will greatly reduce your
sense of taste for essentially all tastes. And that's because those neurons sit very shallow beneath
the tongue surface. And so that if you put something too hot on them, you literally just burn those
neurons away. Luckily, those neurons also can replenish themselves.
Those neurons are of the peripheral nervous system and like all peripheral system neurons,
they can replenish or regenerate.
So if you burn your mouth in about a week or so, hopefully sooner, you'll be able to taste
again.
In fact, everybody's ability to taste is highly subject to training.
You can really enhance your ability to taste and taste the different component parts of
different foods, simply by paying attention to what you're trying to taste.
This is an amazing aspect of the taste system.
I think more than any other system, the taste system, and perhaps the smell system as well, can be trained so that you can learn to pick out the tones, if you will, of different
ice cream or different beverages.
Somebody who, you know, I don't drink much alcohol, I occasionally have a drink or something,
but, you know, a while ago, I got to taste a bunch of different white tequila's these are different kinds of tequila's that are they're not brown their white and
I
sort of assumed that all tequila was
Disgusting that was my assumption before doing this and then I tasted a couple white tequila's and I realized that those aren't
Aren't too bad. I tasted a few more and then pretty soon I could really start to detect the nuance and the difference
Now I haven't had a tequila in a long time now I sort of tend to detect the nuance and the difference. And I haven't had to kill in a long time now.
I sort of tend to not drink it all these days.
But in a very short period of time, like a couple of days, I got very good at detecting
which things I liked and I could start to pick out tones.
So I'm not a wine drinker, but for those of you that are, you know, you hear about,
oh, you know, it has floral tones or berry tones or chocolate tones.
You know, some of that is just kind of menu based and kind of marketing based silliness designed to
get you excited about what you're about to ingest.
But some of it is real.
And for people that are skilled in assessing wines or assessing foods, much more of an
eater than a drinker, you can really start to develop a sensitive palate, a nuanced
palate, through
what we call top-down mechanisms.
This olfactory cortex that takes these five, maybe the sixth, the fat receptor two, information
and tries to make sense of what's out there in the world and what its utility is, is it
good, is it bad, or I want more of it or less than it.
That neural circuitry is unlike other neural circuitry
and that it seems very amenable to behavioral plasticity
for whatever reason.
And we could talk about what those reasons might be.
You know, it's interesting sometimes to think about how
your taste, literally, chemical taste,
is probably very different than that of other people.
How a food taste to you is probably very different
than how it tastes to somebody else.
The same probably cannot be said
of something like vision or hearing,
unless you're somebody who has perfect pitch
or your color vision is disrupted
or your romantic shrimp chances are,
when you look at the same object,
two people are seeing more or less the same object
or perceiving it in a very similar way.
There are experiments that essentially establish that. Now we have taste receptors and a lot of those
taste receptors, the chemical structures are known. They come with fancy
names like the T1R1 or the T1R2, which were identified as the sweet and umami
receptor. So what's interesting is that this umami flavor is the savory flavor rather that sense by umami
receptors is very close to the receptor that detects sweet things.
Similarly, bitter is sensed by a whole other set of receptors.
Now there's a fun naturally occurring experiment that will forever change the way that you
look at animals and the way certainly that I think about dogs and Costello in particular.
Carnivorous large animals like tigers and some grizzly bears for instance.
We know that they have no ability to detect sweet.
They don't actually have the receptors for detecting sweet on their tongue, but their concentration
of umami receptors, of their ability to detect savory is at least 5,000 times that, which
it is in humans.
In other words, if I eat a little piece of steak or Costello eats a little piece of steak,
that steak probably tastes much, much more savory than it does to me. So dogs and tigers
and bears, etc. They're going to taste savory things and smell savory things with a much
higher degree of sensitivity, but they can't taste sweet things. Other large animals, which
are mostly herbivores, like the panda bear, for instance.
It's hard to believe that thing is even a bear.
I got nothing against pandas.
I just think that they get a little bit too much of the limelight, frankly.
So no vendetta against pandas, save the pandas.
I hope they replenish all the pandas.
But pandas, in all their, whatever, have no umami receptors.
They can't taste savory, but they have greatly heightened density of sweet
receptors. So there they are eating these, whatever bamboos all day or not
bamboozle, but bamboos all day. And they can taste things that are very sweet
with a much higher degree of intensity. And in general, animals that are more gentle,
more herbivores, excuse me,
or animals that have the propensity for aggression,
that's where you really see the divergence
of the Yomami receptor because it's associated
with meat and amino acids,
and where you see the enhancement of the sweet receptors
for animals that eat a lot of plants and fruits.
And they probably taste very different to them
than they do to you and me.
And so it's interesting to note that animals
that eat meat, that eat other organisms
can actually extract more savory experience from that.
What does this mean for you?
All right, do you associate yourself as a tiger
or grizzly bear or panda or a combination of both?
Most people are omnivores, however, you may find it interesting that people that, for
instance, eat a pure carnivore type diet or a keto diet where they are ingesting a lot
of meats, so therefore are sensing a lot of umami flavors.
And I realize not everyone who's keto eats meat, but those who do that will develop a more sensitive palette
and likely there are some data,
although early data, craving for umami-like foods,
whereas people that eat a more plant-based diet
are likely developing a heightened sensitivity and desire
for and maybe even dopamine response
to sugars and plant-based foods.
Now, my partial attempt to reconcile the kind of online battle that seems to exist between
plant-based versus animal-based purely plant-based or purely animal-based diets, I think most people
are omnivores, but it's kind of interesting to think that the systems are
plastic such that people might want more meat if they eat more meat.
People might want more plants if they eat enough plants for a long period of time.
And this might explain some of the chasm that exists between these two groups.
Now this is not to say anything about the ethical or the environmental impacts of different
things.
I don't even want to get into that because the meat people say that the plant-based diets have as much
A negative impact as the plant people say that the meat-based diets are that's a totally different discussion
I'm talking about here is food craving and food seeking and one's ability to detect these umami savory flavors is going to be enhanced by ingesting more meat and less activation
Of the sweet receptor. So in other words, the more you eat, the more
you're going to become like a tiger, so to speak. And the more that you avoid these umami
flavors and meats, and the more that you would eat plant-based foods and in particular sweet
foods, the more you will likely suppress that umami system and that you will have a heightened
desire for, appetite appetite for and sensing of
sweet foods or foods that contain sugars. What I'm about to tell you is going
to seem crazy but is extremely interesting with respect to taste and taste
receptors. Remember, even though we can enjoy food and we can evolve our sense of
what's tasty or not tasty depending on life decisions, environmental changes, etc.
The taste system, just like the olfactory system and the visual system, was laid down for the purpose of moving towards things that are good for us and moving away from things that are bad for us.
That's the kind of core function of the nervous system. Well, taste receptors are not just expressed on the tongue.
They are expressed in other cells and other tissues as well. Some of you may be able to imagine
foods that are so delicious to you that they make your entire body feel good. Or foods that are so
horrifically awful to think about let alone taste,
that they create a whole body shuddering or kind of repellent type response
where you just either cringe or turn your face away,
even in the absence of that food.
That's sort of how I feel about pungent Gorgonzola cheese.
If you like Gorgonzola cheese, I don't judge you.
I just, that's an individual difference.
I happen to love certain foods.
I do like savory foods very much.
When I think about them, they just, they make me feel good.
And I'm oftentimes not even associating with the taste of those foods.
It feels almost like a visceral thing.
Well, it turns out that some of the taste receptors extend beyond the tongue,
that they actually can extend into portions of the gut and digestive system. And if that's not
strange enough, it turns out that some of the taste receptors are actually expressed on the
ovaries and the testes. So what that means is that the gonads, the very cells and tissues and organs in our body
that make up the reproductive axis are expressing taste receptors.
So, how do we interpret this?
Does this mean that when you eat something that's very savory or very sweet, for instance,
that it's triggering activation of the ovaries or of the testes?
Well, it's possible.
Now, how those molecules, those chemical molecules
would actually get there, isn't clear. The digestive tract does not run directly to the
testes or to the ovaries. But nonetheless, what this means is that chemical sensing of
the very things that we detect on our tongue and that we call taste in quotes, in food, is also evoking cellular responses within the reproductive
gonads. Now, whether or not this underlies the positive association that we have with
certain foods isn't clear, but I'd be remiss if I didn't point out the obvious, which is that the relationship between the sensual nature
of particular foods and sensuality generally and the reproductive axis is something that's
been covered in many movies, their entire movies that are focused on the relationship between,
for instance, chocolate and love and reproductive behaviors, or certain feasts
of meat and their wonderful tastes and the kind of sensuality around feasts of different
types of foods, but in general it's the sweet and the savory.
Rarely is it the sour or the bitter, the salty or the fat and not surprisingly perhaps? It is the T2Rs
and the T1Rs, the receptors that are associated with the sweet and with the umami, the savory flavors
that are expressed not just on the tongue and in portions of the digestive tract but on the gonads
themselves. So what does this mean? Does this mean that eating certain foods can stimulate the gonads?
Maybe.
There's no data that immediately support that right now.
But this is an emerging area.
If you'd like to read more about this, there's a great review entitled Taste Perception from
the tongue to the testes, although they do also talk about the ovaries.
Why they didn't include that in the title is I think a reflection of the, or bias of the
author.
The author, not incidentally, is Feng Li, last name, Li.
It's a very interesting paper published in molecular human reproduction.
You can find it easily online.
It's downloadable.
I'll also provide a link to it.
I just think it's fascinating that these taste receptors are expressed in other tissues.
I should mention that they're expressed in tissues of other areas of the body as well,
including the respiratory system, but the richest aggregation or concentration of these
receptors for umami and sweet, of course, is on the tongue, but also on the gonads.
I think it does speak to the possible bridge between what we think of as a sensory or
essential experience of food and the deeper kind of visceral sense within the gut and maybe
even within the gonads as well of something that we find extremely pleasurable or even
appetitive that we want to move toward it. We are actually going to return to that general theme
in the discussion about touch sensation.
Some people, for instance,
when they touch certain surfaces like fur or sheep skins
or velvet or soft, smooth surfaces,
it feels good elsewhere in their body,
not just at the point of contact
with that surface.
And similarly, if there's the, how about this one, the screech of chalk on a chalkboard?
It's a, it's a sound, but it has a very strong visceral component or sandpaper, like fingers,
fingernails on a chalkboard, not the sound, but the feeling, right?
Exactly.
So our whole nervous system is tuned to either be drawn toward a petitive or repelled by
aversive behaviors.
Right?
So there's this push pull that exists, and what I'm referring to in terms of these receptors
on the tongue that are also expressed on the gonads is yet another example of what, at least
in this case, seems to be an repetitive thing.
A desire to move toward certain foods and maybe even the experiences that are associated
with those foods.
I want to talk about a particular aspect of food and a chemical reaction in cooking called
the Mayard reaction.
Some of you have probably heard of the Mayard reaction.
It's spelled M-A-I-L-L-A-R-D.
The D is silent, so don't call it the mallard reaction.
And it's not the mallard reaction. It is the Mayar reaction.
And the Mayar reaction is a reaction that, for the aficionados, is a non-enzymatic browning.
The other form of non-enzymatic browning is caramelization.
Although when you hear caramel, caramel, I think it's caramel, you think sweet and indeed caramelization is a sugar-sugar
chemical interaction that leads to a kind of nicely toasted, not burnt, but nicely toasted
sweet taste. Whereas the Mayard reaction is that really savory reaction that occurs when
you have a sugar amino acid reaction. Remember, we have neurons in our gut, but also neurons in our tongue and neurons deep in the brain
that are comparing the amount of sugar to savory.
And the Mayard reaction is very interesting
for you chemists out there.
This is gonna be way too elementary
and for you non-chemists,
it's probably gonna be a little bit of a reach,
but just bear with me.
All these chemicals that we sense have a different structure.
It's like hydrogens and oxygens and aldehyde groups and all these things.
And basically the Mayard reaction involves what's called a free aldehyde.
If you didn't like chemistry, don't worry about it.
It's basically got a group there that kind of sits open that allows it to interact with
other things.
And actually through the use of heat and other processes that we call brazing,
which I'll talk about in a moment,
you create a what's called a ketone group.
Now, most people now have heard of ketones
because the thing about the ketogenic diet,
but a ketone group is actually a chemical compound
that can be used for energy,
that's why people say you can use ketones for energy.
But if you've ever actually encountered ketones,
if you, for instance, get liquid ketones, a ketone ester, and you smell it.
What does it smell like?
It smells a little bit like an alcohol, but it has a kind of savory taste, even when you
smell it, okay?
There are other smells that have these taste too, but for the Mayard reaction, which could
be created, for instance, like if you took a piece of meat or if you're not a meat eater,
if you took tomatoes and you cooked them in a pan and you cooked it nice and slow till
it's simmered and almost started to brown and burn a little bit.
Usually if I do it it burns, I'm not a good cook.
It's cost-ill-a-points out a lot.
But it gets that like almost tangy, very umami like flavor.
And sometimes it will even stick to the pan
if you scrape it off.
It actually you can taste it in your mouth
as you're cooking it.
That's the Mayard reaction.
That's that free aldehyde group.
And that's the production of a ketone group.
When you smell ketones, it smells very much like that.
Okay, some people talk about the ketones
will produce like fruity breath, and that's true if people
are really far into ketosis.
Their breath has a kind of fruity odor.
That's a little bit of a different thing.
So the relationship between smell and taste is a very, very close one.
And this is why when people drink wine, they often will inhale and then sip.
Some of that is just kind of like pomp and circumstance, frankly.
I make a big deal of it, but they can sense things with their mouth.
The combination of odor receptors being activated in a particular way,
and taste receptors in the mouth being activated in a particular way,
triggers the activation of multiple brain areas that are associated with taste
and circuitry within the body that's associated
with the behaviors that relate to that taste, like leaning toward it or leaning away from
it depending on whether or not it's a petitive or aversive.
So the mayored reactions, a very interesting reaction involving this sugar amino acid thing,
but really what it's doing is heating up food such that the amino acids are more available
literally in their chemical form for detection by the neurons.
This is a phenomenon that occurs in other domains of the taste system.
For instance, a lot of what's happened with highly processed foods is that manufacturers
have figured out how to trigger more dopamine response
by ingestion of these sugary foods and created textures
and created essentially design of foods for two purposes. I'm not out to
completely demonize processed foods. I did that in a previous episode
but processed foods are really designed to take foods that
ordinarily would spoil that would have a shelf life and extend their shelf life.
To turn foods, which are not a commodity into a commodity, something could be stored and
used essentially as a tradeable, purchasable, sellable resource.
In doing that, they change, they've also decided to change the texture so that you want to
chew more of them.
I have this thing, I don't know what it is for those trisket crackers.
I don't know, why are those things so good?
It's probably the texture, you got those layers,
they're just kind of perfectly salty.
Haven't had one in a long time,
so I bet if I had one now,
it wouldn't taste as good as I'm imagining it.
But those combinations of texture, smell, and taste
are what combine to activate these different brain areas
that make you really want to desire something.
And the people who make foods, process foods in particular, are phenomenally good at
figuring out what drives the dopamine system that makes you want more of these things,
either because of the way they taste and or because of the way they trigger neurons and
you're got that have nothing to do with taste that simply make you desire more of the food.
In other words, many of the foods that are processed foods make you desire more of the food. In other words, many of the foods that are processed foods
make you desire more of them.
The, it's impossible to eat one chip kind of thing,
not because they taste good,
but because in your gut,
they're activating the neurons that activate dopamine,
which make you seek more of those foods,
independent of blood sugar or anything else.
So you may actually be eating more of particular foods,
not because they taste good,
but because they feel good on your tongue and mouth and because the neurons in your gut, which are
totally independent of conscious taste, are triggering the release of dopamine, which is a molecule that
makes you seek more of and do more of anything that led to the ingestion of that food. There's a fun experiment that you can do, which is to completely invert your sense of sweet and sour. There's actually a way to do this
readily. When I was a post-doc, I used to have a journal club at my house. People come over in
the evening once a month and we would read a paper, typically the weirdest paper we could find, and we would eat food and hang out, as what nerds did and do.
For fun.
So that's what we did.
And one time someone brought what's called Miracle Berry.
Okay, so this isn't some psychedelic plant medicine thing.
Miracle Berry, you can purchase online, it's relatively inexpensive.
It actually causes a change in the configuration of taste receptors
such that when you eat something sour, it tastes sweet. And so what's really wild is you ingest
miracle berry, and then you bite into a lemon, maybe even the lemon peel, and it tastes as sweet as
a peach. And this effect lasts several hours. Definitely, you know, check any warnings.
I don't know what sort of warnings
these miracle berry carries,
but I'm sure there's always something you could imagine.
There are a number of papers on miracle berry
or miracle fruit, it's called,
but it changes your perception of sour at a perceptual level,
but it does that by changing the activity
the receptors in the mouth and tongue.
Now this is important as a principle and it's underscored by experiments that have been done by
for instance Charles Zooker's lab at Columbia University where they've essentially genetically
engineered animals such that the bitter receptor is swapped with the sweet receptor or the sweet
receptor is swapped with the bitter receptor and what sweet receptor is swapped with the bitter receptor. And what they show is that the actual food,
the experience on the tongue,
drives different pathways in the brain.
Here's what they did.
They essentially took mice and swapped out
the sweet receptor and put in a bitter receptor.
And then what they found is that,
whereas normally mice would actively seek out
and even work for sugar water, sucrose, they
really like that. If they replace the sweet receptor with the bitter receptor, the mice would
avoid sugar water. The reverse was also true. That mice would drink a bitter solution
avidly. They liked a bitter solution if they swapped out the bitter receptor for sweet receptor.
What this means is that our entire experience of what we taste is dependent on how
we experience that taste of the level of the tongue. And so you're hopefully not going
to do genetic engineering of your taste receptors, but if you'd like to do this sort of experiment,
you actually can do it very easily using miracle fruit, the instructions of how much to ingest,
et cetera, any safety concerns are usually on the package and should be easy to find. And
there's a lot of science to support how this works.
It's kind of a fun experiment that anyone can do.
And we'll completely change your perception of any food
that you're accustomed to eating.
In fact, you can figure out how much sweet
or the sense of sweetness is contributing
to your experience of a food.
Even if you don't think of it as a sweet food
through this miracle fruit experiment, you could take miracle fruit, You could be a slice of pepperoni pizza or cheese pizza,
which perhaps normally to you would taste just like pizza. And you'll know,
it tastes very different. What you are detecting is how much the sense of sweet was contributing
to that particular flavor. Now I'd like to return to pheromones.
to that particular flavor. Now I'd like to return to pheromones.
So I mentioned earlier, true pheromonal effects
are well-established in animals.
And one of the most remarkable pheromonal effects
that's ever been described is one
that actually I've mentioned before on this podcast,
but I'll mention again just briefly
which is the Coolidge effect.
The Coolidge effect is the effect of a male
of a given species.
In most cases, it tended to be a rodent or a rooster mating
and at some point reaching exhaustion
or the inability to mate again
because they just simply couldn't for whatever reason.
The coolage effect establishes that if you swap out
the hen with a new hen or the female rat or mouse with
a new one, then the rat or the rooster spontaneously regains their ability to mate.
Somehow their vigor is returned, the refractory period after mating that normally occurs is
abolished and they can mate again.
Turns out that the Coolidge effect runs in the opposite direction too.
I did not know this, but I recently learned of a study.
It was actually done in hamsters, not in mice, but it turns out that females also will
female rodents will mate to exhaustion.
And at some point, excuse me, they will refuse to mate any longer unless you swap in a new
male.
And then because mating and rodents
involves the female being receptive,
there are certain number of behaviors
that mean that she, that tell you
that she's willing and wanting to mate.
So called lordosis reflex.
Then if there's a new male,
she will spontaneously regain the lordosis reflex
and the desire to mate.
And how do you know this?
How do we know it's a pheromonal effect?
Well, this recovery of the desire and ability to mate,
both in males and in females,
can be evoked completely by the odor of a new male
or female.
It doesn't even have to be the presentation
of the actual animal.
And that's how you know that it's not some visual interaction or some other interaction.
It's a fermonal interaction. Now, as I mentioned earlier, fermonal effects
humans have been debated for a long period of time. We are thought to have a vestigial,
meaning a kind of shrunken down miniature accessory olfactory bulb called Jacobson's organ,
or the vomeronasal organ. Some people don't believe that Jacobson's organ or the vomeronazole organ.
Some people don't believe that Jacobson's organ is this.
Some people do.
There is anatomical evidence for it in some cadavers.
It sits not very high up in the brain or where your olfactory bulb is, but it's actually
in the nasal passages.
So there's a little dense as you go up through
your nasal passages. And there is evidence of something that's vomeronasal-like. Vomeronasal
is the Firmonal organ. They call it Jacobson's organ, if it's present in humans. Kind of tucked
into some of the divots in the nasal passage. Even if that organ, Jacobson's organ isn't
there or is not responsible for the chemical signaling
between individuals, there is chemical signaling
between human beings.
So I mentioned earlier the effect of tears
in suppressing the areas of the brain
that are involved in sexual desire and testosterone of males.
That's a concrete result.
It's a very good result published by an excellent group
with no preexisting bias going in. That's just what they found. There is also evidence
both for and against chemical signaling between females in terms of synchronization of menstrual cycles.
Now, the original paper on this was published in the 1970s by McClendon. And it
essentially said that when women live together in group housing dormitories and similar, that
their menstrual cycles were synchronized and that was due to what was hypothesized to be
hormonal effects. Over the years, that study has been challenged many, many times. The
more recent data points to the idea that there is chemical, chemical signaling
between women in ways that impact the timing
of the menstrual cycle, but that depending
on whether or not some of the women are in the ovulation phase,
the ovulatory phase of that cycle,
or whether or not they are in the follicular phase,
the phase when the follicle is maturing
before the egg actually
ovulates. So two separate phases of the 28-day menstrual cycle will either lengthen or shorten
the menstrual cycle of the person that smells those women, translate into English. What
that means is that it is very likely it seems that something may be pheromones, but maybe some other chemical that is independent of pheromones is being
conveyed between women that are housed together or spend a lot of time together to shift their
menstrual cycle, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they synchronize.
So for instance, if one woman is in the follicular phase of the menstrual cycle, it might accelerate
ovulation in another woman, whereas if somebody is in the ovulatory phase of their cycle,
it might lengthen the menstrual cycle out so that the woman who smells that person's
scent or who smells her sweat, we still don't know the
origin of the chemical would ovulate later.
So all of this is to say is that chemical-chemical signaling is happening from females to males
through tears.
We know that.
Is that a pheromonal effect?
Well, by the strict definition of a pheromone, a molecule that's released from one individual
that impacts the biology of another individual?
Yes.
But in terms of identifying what the pheromone is in tears, that's still unknown. It's not clear what the chemical compound
is. So we're reluctant as scientists to call it a true pheromonal effect. The menstrual
cycle and the synchronization of the menstrual cycle effect seems to hold up under some conditions,
but in some cases, there's a kind of clash of menstrual cycles that's created by chemicals that are emitted
from one female to another.
So there are many examples of this in humans.
For instance, people can recognize the t-shirt
of their mate.
If you get this experiment has been done many times,
I know it's been challenging a number of times,
but the data are pretty good by now
that if you offer, you take a
collection of women who are in stable relationships with somebody, you offer them the smell of
a hundred different shirts and they can very readily pick out their significant others
sent.
Okay, that's pure olfaction, that's not fermonal, but nonetheless is a remarkable degree
of discrimination, ol factory discrimination. You can dilute their partner scent down to the point where they themselves
can't consciously detect the difference between the sweat or the t-shirt of a hundred different t-shirts,
or so. And they might say, I don't really smell the difference, but I think it's this one. Yeah,
this one belongs to the person that I've been with.
And they are much greater than chance at detecting the T-shirt or identifying the T-shirt
correctly.
So there's no question really that there is chemical, chemical signaling between humans.
The question is whether or not it's truly fermonal in basis.
Now you'll notice that a lot of the examples I gave aside from the one of tears is women
detecting the sense of men or
of other women.
And it turns out that there are a number of papers.
The best one I think that I could find is published in physiology and behavior in 2009
to review entitled sex differences and reproductive hormone influences on human odor perception
by Doddy, DOTY, and Cameron.
I encourage you to check out this review.
It's available free as a download.
We'll provide a link to it.
You can get the full PDF if you want.
But it does seem that women are better at detecting odors in these odor discrimination
tasks than our men.
And yes, that it does vary according to where they are in their menstrual cycle.
And yes, they also looked at people who had received gonadectomy that had their ovaries removed,
a number of different important controls. None of this surprises me. None of this should surprise you.
It's very clear that hormones have a profound effect on a large number of systems in our biology
and that smell and taste and the ability
of sense the chemical states of others,
either consciously or subconsciously,
have a profound influence on whether or not
we might wanna spend time with them,
whether or not this is somebody that we're pair bonded with,
whether or not this is somebody that we just met
and don't trust yet, things of this sort.
And given what's at stake in terms of reproductive biology,
not just offspring, but given the possibility
of transmission of diseases, et cetera,
the risks of childbirth, et cetera,
it makes so much sense that much of our biology
is wired toward detecting and sensing
whether or not things and people
are things that we should approach or avoid.
Whether or not things and people are things that we should approach or avoid.
Whether or not reproduction with that person is the appropriate response or suppression
of the reproductive response is the appropriate response, right?
As in the case with the tears.
So I think these are fascinating studies.
It's an area that still needs a lot of work, but there are some really wonderful papers
on this.
And the one that I mentioned a few minutes ago, sex differences and reproductive hormone influences on human odor perception
is one of the better reviews that are out there.
There are also a number of other reviews, for instance, that talk about pheromone effects
and their impact on mood and sexual responses and things that sort.
We will also provide some links to those.
A lot of this is still speculative, but I want to say, I know I said three times, but I really want to underscore because it is
vitally important and people seem to get a little triggered by the notion of pheromones.
Just because we haven't identified the actual chemical compound that's acting as a pheromone or
punitive pheromone does not mean that chemical, chemical signaling
between individuals doesn't exist.
Clearly it does.
Actually you and every other human,
from the time you're born until the time you die,
are actively seeking out and sensing and evaluating
the chemicals that come from other individuals.
So really nice study that was done by the Whitesman Institute, a group there.
I think it was also a Nome Sobles group, but another group as well as I recall, looking
at human human interactions when they meet for the first time.
It's a remarkable study because what they found was people would reach out and shake hands.
It's a typical response.
Pre-pandemic people would meet, they'd reach out and they and shake hands. This is a typical response. Pre-pandemic people would meet,
they'd reach out and they would shake hands.
And what they observed was almost every time
within just a few seconds of having shaken hands
with this new individual, people will touch their eyes.
Almost without fail.
Occasionally they would touch their eyebrow,
occasionally someone would touch their hair.
We always associate that with people having some sort of, or us having some
sort of self-conscious response like, oh, we want to make sure we're, you know, sure,
tucked in and all, you know, prim and proper, whatever it is or looking right is there's
something in my teeth, this kind of thing. But actually, people are doing that even
if the person they just met left the room. So someone sitting there, someone comes in,
they shake hands, and the person inevitably subconsciously touches the room. So someone sitting there, someone comes in, they shake hands,
and the person inevitably subconsciously touches their eyes. They are taking chemicals from the skin contact, and they are placing it on a mucosal membrane of some sort, typically not up their nose
or in their mouth, typically on their eyes. Now animals do this all the time. There's a phenomenon
in animals called bunting. If you have a over-eager dog, that when you meet them or you see them again
after you've been away for the day,
they'll rub their head against you.
Cats will do this too, it's called bunting.
They're rubbing their scent lands on you,
they're marking you.
And believe it or not,
you're marking other people when you shake their hand.
And they are then taking your mark
and rubbing it on themselves subconsciously.
So we all do these kinds of behaviors.
And now that you're aware of it, you can watch for it in your environment, you can, you know,
pay attention to people. Some of this has probably changed in light of the events of 2020, etc.
But nonetheless, we are evaluating the molecules on people's breath. We are evaluating the
molecules on people's skin by actively rubbing it rubbing it on ourselves
and we are actively involved in sensing not just their facial expressions the size of their pupils and things like that
But the chemicals that they are emitting their hormone status how they smell we're
detecting the
Firmones possibly but certainly the odors in their breath you might say well
I don't actually go around sniffing people's breath.
I don't, you know, unless if it's bad, in which case it's aversive, but breath is communicating
a lot of signals.
And this handshake, eye-rub experiment shows that we are actively going through behaviors
reflexively to wipe ourselves or smear ourselves with other people's chemicals.
Now that might seem odd or even gross to you,
but I think it's beautiful.
I think that it illustrates the extent to which we as human beings
are in some ways among the other animals in our subconscious,
sometimes conscious, but certainly subconscious tendency
to try and evaluate our chemical environment
through what we inhale, through our nose,
what we ingest through our mouth,
and what we actively take off other people's skin and rub on ourselves to evaluate it and
what we should do about it and perhaps that person as well.
So today we talked a lot about olfaction, taste, and chemical sensing between individuals.
I like to think that you now know a lot about how your smell system works and
why inhaling is a really good thing to do in general for waking up your brain and for
cognitive function and for enhancing your sense of smell. We talked about how to enhance
your sense of taste. And we talked about chemical signaling between individuals as a way of communicating
some important aspects about biology. People are shaping each other's biology all the time
by way of these chemicals that are being traded
from one body to the next through air
and skin-to-skin contact and tears.
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