I Don't Know About That - ATM: Episode 15 - LA Riots, Elon v Trump, and Kethryn from "The Snake"

Episode Date: June 11, 2025

At this moment Jim and Amos celebrate the release of Jim's new show on FOX called "The Snake." They bring on one of the competitors Kethryn to talk about what it's like to be on the show. The duo also debate over the ICE riots in Los Angeles, the break up between Trump and Elon, and many other things! Watch THE SNAKE on FOX every Tuesday at 9pm ET/8pm CT. SOCIALS: Jim Jefferies Website: https://www.jimjefferies.com IG: https://www.instagram.com/jimjefferies FB: https://www.facebook.com/JimJefferies Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimjefferies Amos Gill IG: @abitofamosgill FB: https://www.facebook.com/AmosGillComedy/ Theme Song: "Rein It In Cowboy" by the Doohickeys

Hi everyone. Welcome to the, at this moment podcast, ATM podcast with me, Jim Jefferies. Here I'm here with AOS Gill. Uh, we've got a great show for you. What did we talk about? We spoke about your new TV show and the star of it. Catherine is going to join us at the end, but before then we covered everything that's going on in the world.

We discussed the big fallout bromance of Elon and Donald Trump. We spoke about the ICE riots and protests. I also told everyone about the best new Instagram page you should be following. You'll be able to hear all of that now. Now, before we start that though, I've just announced a whole tour of the United Kingdom and I'm touring all across Europe. I'm literally going fucking everywhere in the UK and in Europe. And if you come to Europe, the young man that you're watching on the screen will be performing.

Yes, me, but Amos will be there as well. Opening up for me. We're going to do every, like we're going everywhere. So check out if you live anywhere in Europe, we're coming. If you come into the UK, I'm coming there. And these are basically just, um, what, what, what date to what date Jack? Ah, well, it's, I can do it right now. Cause I've got it in my computer. Cause I'm so excited. It's, uh, from about the 28th of August all the way through, Jimmy, to the. Eighth of October, we got a big chunk over there and we'll be doing the podcast

in Europe, maybe in front of some nice destinations, we'll do some little tours of Europe and get some content. We could maybe even do a live one. Who knows? Matt, I'm so stoked about this. I got my creation passport in the mail. So I'll be traveling as a citizen of Europe this time. So really excited to do that. Well, that saved me some money on visas.

I wonder if that'll tie into this episode. Let's start. Hello everyone. And welcome to At This Moment with Jim Jefferies and me, Amos Gill. We've got a great episode today. ATM is very proud because today our man, Jim, has his first episode of his American game show, The Snake on Fox. And we have a contestant to come and talk about Jim as a host and how she went on there.

We'll get to that in a minute. But before then, I guess I should begin by saying, Jim, how are you at this moment? What's happening? I'm good, man. I'm good. The snakes coming out tonight. Well, it's already, it's already by the time this podcast comes out, it's already aired. I hope you watch it.

If you haven't watched it, it's already out on Hulu right now. So you can watch it on Hulu. Um, it's weird watching. It's weird watching a show. Cause I got a screener so I could watch it to talk about it. He can't really watch a show. Like I'm glad you're not more famous because you'd ruin more telly like if you're, because it's your friend, you just watch your friend

the whole time, like it must suck to be friends with the guy that gets James Bond. Cause that's Daniel. That's my mate, Daniel. I think it's, I think it's okay. If you're, if you're a higher actor. Right. So I think, I think George Clo, I think it's okay. If you're, if you're a higher actor, right? So I think, I think George Clooney can watch a Brad Pitt movie and Brad Pitt can watch a George Clooney movie, but I don't think lower, like an actor, slightly lower can watch those people.

They're like, those guys, you know what I mean? I think that's how it is. Well, it was just even like, if your friend is Superman or something, and then you know him from the real world, you're like, he's a tosser. I can't enjoy this. Yeah. You just know how uncomfortable I was in a suit in the jungle. Oh, all I, all I could think was Jim's going to be really unhappy with how his hair looks in that shot.

There was one where I turned, it was very, cause I was covered in bug spray and I was covered in sunscreen spray and I was the middle of the day and I'd been standing at the front every time they went like cut, like every time we like we break for a minute, someone ran out with an umbrella for me. I felt very much like Michael Jackson, just someone coming out, just give me an umbrella because I'm so pale. But look, I hope the show does well. I think it's a fun show. I would watch the snake. I tell you what, it gets better and better. The guest we have on today is Catherine, who I will say is the star of episode one, in my opinion. Um, she has the

most impact and she's the lady on the trailer that says you're going to burn in hell like that. Right. So she, she's good value. Um, no, I've been doing press. I've been doing press. I mean, I just did access, um, Hollywood daily access. I don been doing press. I mean, I just did Access Hollywood daily access. I don't get the evening access daily, not Hollywood, but I did that with Kit and Mario Lopez, they're always very nice, but I was doing all the morning shows, good morning Cleveland, a good morning Dallas, a good morning this, the good morning that, and I was in good morning, like something today, Baltimore. What was it called?

Ball the morning show in Baltimore with a lady who hosts a show called miss T lady T lady T who I assumed was either Mr. T's wife or daughter, lady T. Yeah. But she wasn't, she was neither. She wasn't related to Mr. T in any way, which is very confusing. She didn't have the haircut or nothing. Anyway. So, so, so lady T, way, which is very confusing. She didn't have the haircut or nothing. Anyway, so, so Lady T, Lady T was a very friendly and I start off the interview and we've got Jack on this.

So we'll show this in the next podcast if it so happens, but she comes on the podcast. She comes on, I come on her show via, you know, zoom like this and she's just like, I just love your accent. I think your accent is just a, I said, well, thank you, lady T I've been working on it my whole life. I really appreciate you having on Baba. But she goes, sum up the snake in one word. Right. And I said, and I know Americans don't know this web is it, then I thought it'd be an interesting thing to explain the word or whatever. I was quite manipulative in doing she said, sum up the snake in one word. And I said, skull, Dougherty, right? They don't know this yet. Yes.

They don't know that word right now to the Americans who are listening, who don't know what skull Dougherty means. Skull Dougherty is like a pirate term being underhanded, mischievous, um, trying to get away through scrupulous. Yeah. No scruples as cheating at board games is a thing that you'd say is skull duggery, right? I like the term skull duggery. Anyway, she goes, I've never heard that word. That's fantastic. That's my new word. I'm going to use that word.

That's good. Good, good new word. And then she goes skull buggery. That's a little different. Yeah. And I'm on TV. Now Americans don't know what the term buggery means either. Did you know this about him? Yeah, that's, um, that's fucking a cow's, uh, skull. No, no. Buggery buggery is the legal term in British courts for anal sex. Yeah. As you, I thought it was also for rooting an animal.

What's that? Well, no buggery buggeries anal sex. If you Google it, the dictionary will just say it is just anal sex. Yeah. Anal sex. Right. But she said skull bugger. Well, you can do buggery on an animal. I think that's what you're thinking. That's where you've fallen down. You've, you've seen someone fuck a goat in the ass and that's buggery. The goat is inconsequential. My dad taught me wrong. I think my dad showed me a video of a man, written a horse and go, that's a bit of buggery. The goat is inconsequential. My dad taught me wrong. He, I think my dad showed me a video of a man, written a horse and go, that's a bit of buggery. And I went, Oh, that's insane.

That's a, what do you call it? Um, God, what's the fucking word for animals? Bestiality. Bestiality. God, I'm off to a slow start here. Yeah. You don't even know your own relationship. So, so, so, so, so buggery, right?

When it's in Australia is like a term we had, we had a Toyota commercial where a dog just kept on going bugger, bugger. Now when someone goes, Oh, this little bugger over here, it is short for buggery. We call kids little buggers, this little bugger over there, that little bugger over there, but it's, it's a lightened up term. You can actually also say if you, if you hit a nail, you know, you hit, you hit a hammer on your thumb, you can go bugger. It's a much nicer term than sodomy.

Yeah. You know, you don't go, you don't hit your thumb with a knife, with a hammer and go ain't all right. You know what I mean? Like it's just, it's just a fun thing to say bugger. Bugger. What are you, what are your little sodomites doing over there? And the, well, the bloody kid down the road, the little, the little ass fucker,

you know what I mean? So, so it's, you, we don't, we don't do that, but buggery definitely means anal sex and the lady, and they didn't cut us. They didn't use the dump button. And I said, no, you can't say buggery because I can't see buggery. What does buggery mean? I'm like, well, check it out when we get off the show, lady T. So hopefully we can get that clip.

That's as I remember it. It might be some words might be different, but she definitely said skull buggery. Going on in the world. Look, there's not enough to talk about what's going on. Well, before we speak to Catherine, there's, there's just nothing going on. I'd like to tell you a couple of things that I've been up to. Okay. And then we'll get to that. We'll get to the news. Okay. Okay. I'm ready. Trying to stand in the format. So I'm in Austin, uh, doing the shows this week and, uh, I'm staying with my, uh, I'm staying with my

old Aussie mate who's got his family here. He's got kids that are two, four and six. So that's James McCann. Very popular comic. Yeah. Yes. So we're staying in Austin and he's been away on the road. It's just been me and his wife and his kids and now he's back. And I've been looking after these three children who are a lot of fun, great kids. And they have a game they like to do, which is hide and seek.

And they all like to make me hide in the shoe closet because daddy's shoes stink. Okay. So the three of them go, go in there and sniff the shoes. And I go, Oh, I don't want to sniff the shoes. Give it all that, you know, good uncle stuff. And then I grabbed daddy's shoe and I go, Oh, that stinks. You know, getting big laughs from the three kids. I'm absolutely crushing. I go in again, another shoe, smell, smell, smell. And then the little sodomites would have loved that. And then the, uh, the oldest comes up to me and goes,

now smell mommy's shoe. And I go, no, I can't, I can't, I can't do that. They go, why don't you smell mommy's shoe? And I'm going, well, I don't know how to explain this to you. It's because some men would really want to, you see, why are you telling him that? Just move on with your day. Don't think it's like a Louboutin like nice thing. Like sniff one of us slip a gross looking shoe. I told you why is because the mom is in the kitchen, Taylor, and she's watching. And I'm like, I'm not about to sniff this woman's shoe.

You know, it's fun to sniff. And just now, now they've got more questions than they have answers. Well, that's what she said. She goes, you made it weird when you didn't sniff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why wouldn't you just sniff a shoe?

She's a God fearing woman. She doesn't care about you sniffing a shoe. But then I'm thinking, imagine having to explain to children that for some adults, the foot and the aroma of the foot is aphrodisiac. No, no, no. It's bloody weird, isn't it? My wife's feet are so big that she's been an actress.

She's appeared in movies and her feet have never ended up on one of those web pages. They went to do it once, but they, it just broke the site. She's a great, she'd be a great barefooter behind a boat. Ah, climb a tree like one thing straight up there. So obviously the biggest thing that's happening at this moment, if you're a foreigner, if you live in America, you're talking about the riots in Los Angeles predominantly. Jim, you live there.

Have you seen them? No, I haven't seen them. They haven't reached the valley. They're only, they're only downtown. A lot of people that are saying, ah, a lot of family members are ringing me up going, are you okay? Is everything fine? And this is, no, we don't get this in the valley.

All we get in the valley is possibly the whole place burning down, but we're all right for rides. That is the thing about, uh, chaos in happening in your city. Is everyone, people reach out to down, but we're all right for rides. That is the thing about, uh, chaos happening in your city is everyone. People, people reach out to you, but also everyone thinks that it's happening around you and you're anxious. Like I'm convinced there was definitely people on nine 11 in New York who were like having a movie binge that day and didn't know what happened, you know, they're like locked in their apartment and then they find out like six hours later.

Oh, no, no, no. There's, there's people who slept through the tsunami in Thailand. Right. You know, like this. I had a dream. I pissed myself. The house was flooded. They were just, they were just like on the eighth floor and they come out and fuck. I wanted to go over this story because this, you and I discussed this many times as foreigners

who come to America. I couldn't think of a more complex issue than the immigration. It is, it is, well, obviously it's a very difficult thing. The word illegal is illegal. You shouldn't be illegally doing anything. You shouldn't be in any country going against that country's laws, right? You shouldn't be. So I was saying to country's laws. Right. You shouldn't be. And so I was saying to you, I have two weeks left on my visa. I'm currently spending a fortune and dedicating all my time with my lawyer

to get my visa renewed and I get it. It's very stressful. I have my life here at my girlfriend here, but if I'm denied, you've cut out. I be fucking furious. I've got, I'll just have to go. Okay. But here's the thing, right? As I just said, don't do illegal things in the country.

That means being an illegal immigrant is being illegal. You shouldn't be here illegally. You shouldn't be doing illegal things such as, you know, selling drugs or speeding in your car or whatever, you know, different illegal things, breaking into things, stealing things, what have you. Right. But arguably what Donald Trump and the ice people are doing is illegal. It is illegal.

They're, they're detaining people who have work permits. Beases have been here for a long time. There's a lot of, obviously immigration checks with the, um, you know, saying you want to get rid of illegals is one thing when you actually get into the practice of doing it, no one wants to see a breach and seizure laws and you know, it's an ugly look, no doubt about it. Yeah. It's like, how do search and seizure laws. And you know, it's an ugly look, no doubt about it. Yeah. It's like, how do you get rid of the cane beetle, right? You're bringing the cane toad and how do you get rid of the cane toad? We bring in the gorillas and then eventually,

you know, so I both go, you should be here legally. And I'm pissed off because listen, I've spent $25,000, which I don't have to be a dreamer to come to be a standup comedian. And other people are able to just come across the border and be here without any. You weren't lucky enough to be born in Mexico. You couldn't walk over here. Like you could have flown into Mexico and walked up. Yeah. Look, I don't like getting the steps in. I'm not a desert guy. So, to be fair, I didn't work hard enough. I could have done that. You are right. I could have done that.

You haven't got the knees to scale a wall. Certainly not. No, I would need someone to scale me down. I need a rope. Yeah. And you need like a bottle of Icelandic water for the trip or something. You couldn't just be having one of those brown sort of mucky jugs of it. Could you? I'd want to be belayed. I'd let me belayed down when you kick off like that with the, oh, you want to, you, my way into the country.

You want to abseil. Dude, if you're, if you're, if you're spelunking your way into the country, you're what? There's no jumping. Uh, but I did, I did say I posted on my Instagram. Spelunking is going into a cave. You idiot. Is it?

Yes. I'm thinking, I'm thinking of belaying. Belaying. You repel, repel, or it's, it's abseil, abseil down, right? Spelunking is, is going through a cave. Well, it depends how tall the wall is. You know, true.

If you could be a part of the drop off, maybe you've dug a little hole through the thing and just like your way through. Yeah. I was, I was a spelunking. I was going over the wall. You've done it. Someone was done it like, like Andy do frame. I was, I was a spelunking. I was going over the wall. You've done it. Like, like Andy Dufresne. I should have just gone under.

What you do is you put a picture of like a Banksy poster over the hole. Come back there later. And then I saw all these cop cars getting smashed. One of the cars driving in a brick goes through a window. And I think, well, that's terrible and stupid. And I also don't think it's a good look for America's left to have people waving foreign nations flags while burning American ones, because that doesn't win people over to your side. It just doesn't. I don't like flags. I think flags are stupid. You hate flags.

Flags are flags are all they're always in the way people with flags are always assholes. People have flags, people walk down. And so I see someone walking down the street with a Palestinian flag or a Mexican flag saying, saying, why are you deporting us? Well, because you're holding up the wrong fucking flag. You know, what type of idiot has to come over to a country and not assimilate and just have old relics of pictures of things from the homeland behind them? I always don't listen. That is very, very true.

I know the creation community, which my Oh, I'm sitting in front of a flag. I know the creation community, which my audio listeners, Oh, I'm sitting in front of a flag. I'm sitting in front of a map of Australia. My, my, my creation family, you know, we always love the jewel. Like we have the Australian flag and creation flag pin that we used to all wear. And so it was bad. You have both. I just think if you are rallying against the country, obviously there's a lot of

people that want you to be here, but when you're banning that flag and only throwing up the Mexican one, it's a very bad PR move because you are ultimately entering a country in America, which is a country where you want to get successful in and then denigrating it and then spitting in the face of the law enforcement, whether they're behaving badly or not. With ICE deporting all these people, have reports of dogs being eaten gone down? Well, the police are all in one place, which means a lot of pets are unguarded right now. So it is a good time if you're feeling peckish. Yeah. But do you think like, like, like, and that's why they're setting these cars on fire.

It's a spit roast. Yeah. I saw, I, I, I, I saw, I saw one like walking down the street with a flag and he goes, I don't eat dogs. I eat pussy. And I thought, I thought he's all right. Him. He's having a bit of fun with his deportation. Yeah. If you've got a witty sign you're in, that's what I think. Cause this is a sarcastic country.

So I think that, so I didn't like seeing the cop cars that are actually driving, get bricked, kind of attempted murder. But then I saw Waymo set on fire and I liked that because I hate the tech takeover of the country. So bullshit. You are, you're one of attempted murder. But then I saw Waymo set on fire. And I liked that because I hate the tech takeover of the country. So bullshit. You are, you're one of these people. I hate the bloody tech and they're taking over the country. You've always got a chat fucking AI thing that you're reading to me. Look at what the AI has done.

You're right in it. You love the shit. I know it sucks in. I've never used it. I've never used AI, never used it, except for I have tried one of the shit. I know it sucks in. I've never used it. I've never used AI. Never used it, except for I have tried one of the AI, we'll make a porn girl just to have a look at what it turned out like.

Every tech development there is, you use for getting off in some way. I don't know what you'd do in a Waymo. They have cameras in there, don't they? Yeah, well that's- Useless things, throw bricks through their windows. Useless. If you can't have a wank in the back of a way, Mo, what's the point of the blood?

So I'm like this, I'll have a driver. Thank you very much. It's just really hard to be nuanced where you go, I think you should be here legally, a country needs laws. You know, even in Australia, Americans think they're harsh and fascist. We're way harsher than that. Barack Obama deported 3 million people. Donald Trump has rough rhetoric. It's like there's so much confusing shit going on. I don't think you can, but I'm not black or white one way or the other on the issue. I think you're white. You're definitely white. You can't. Well, then again, even this issue isn't black and white. It's more that in between color that is whatever that mocha.

So that was what you were going to say. Not everything is black and white like this situation. Is that bloody terrible person? Do you think, do you think under Obama, do you think under Obama, that Australian girl who got shot with the rubber bullet, do you think she still gets shot in the same way these people are feeling emboldened at the moment? This was an LAPD person who's been, but Trump's America, Trump's, oh, is he getting investigated?

They're getting, our prime minister has asked for, he's done a plos-explain. Plos-explain. Plos-explain. Well, sorry, we just had a journo shot in the ankle. From channel nine, one of our bigger networks, no seven, but pretty big. A rubber bullet has struck her in the ankle and she's feeling a bit... Oh, I thought she got it in the ass. No, I think it was in, it might've been the, I looked like it was like ankle or

ass, but she's a bugger. Bugger. What did he get it? What did that can't get out of that? Come on. What was going through his brain? There was a camera on him. There was a camera.

What was going through his brain when he went, I'm going to shoot that. I don't know. I think, I think maybe she needed, unfortunately, this is modern America. She maybe needed one of those press, uh, bulletproof vests and a helmet. Yeah. Also, also we don't know the relationship between her and the cop. Maybe they were dating and, and he saw this as his opportunity. So we have to, we have to wait and see how it all panned out.

Maybe, maybe she said, I'm a few kilometers away and he shot her and was like, it's miles, bitch. Could have been, could have been. Did she just call soccer football? Yeah. Did she just go, did she just say the coffee's not very good here, is it? I don't know.

It's not as good as coffee in Melbourne. Did she say that? Yeah. Everyone's very unhealthy here. Yeah. Have you had Cinnabon? You can't finish a whole one. Like who finishes the whole one?

No wonder they're all fat. She probably said no one. I'd like to see three minutes before what that clip. We've only seen the clip from there. We haven't seen them going. It's not even really a nice outfit. The police are wearing it's too Darth Vader ish. I came to Los Angeles and you know, it's meant to be summer and it's,

there's the June gloom. It's really not that nice here, is it? Movies. I haven't seen one movie star. Yeah, it would have been a bit of that. I just can't. I give somewhere for the star tours to go now for, for even Australian passengers. They'll drive along the go and that's over there is Kevin Costner's house. And here's where that Australian girl got shot with a rubber bullet and made that noise. I wouldn't mind.

Uh, I wouldn't mind. I would love to know how that feels. The rubber bullet. Well, we, I can, you can find out pretty quick. Give me an El Salvador flag and I'll go for a rundown six straight. Just when you, when you finish your gig tonight, just come out, just in your underwear, they'll give you a shot. They'll see you as dangerous.

So look, I'll tell you what's funny. So when, when my last point on that quickly, I just, everyone makes it simplistic and that's the problem. And even me now in the gray area is saying you should probably try and be here legally and also if you're a cop, you should do it humanely. You win no friends. So it's like, why even talk about it? Everyone here will be like legally. And also if you're a cop, you should do it humanely. You win no friends. So it's like, why even talk about it?

Everyone here will be like, fuck you, fuck you. We're trying to give a measured arguments. The cops shouldn't be so heavy handed and people should be here legally. I think that's the point we're trying to make. I have different views on what Donald Trump's doing in comparison to what you think Donald Trump's doing, but Quinn, essentially we are on the same page. Right? We're meeting in the middle.

Where we're. Can you explain, well, I, the process and cost of getting a visa, what are you? $12,000 for me to get my own $12,000 for him to get one. Yeah. But it's, it's hard to get into new countries. But this is the other thing. Like why do Americans feel like now at this point, it's like, you're just meant to take on everybody.

The country's in insurmountable amounts of debt. Right. But you've been okay. So America's, America's not Robinson Crusoe when it comes to this. There are other nations, the EU that's, this is why Brexit happened because people were upset with the Eastern Europeans coming into the UK. That was quintessentially, they might say it was for our sovereignty and all that type of stuff. But that's the real reason was that right. And, and, and there's other, in Australia, you have boat people are coming. We turned the boats away.

We're one time during the Howard administration, people on the boat started throwing their children over, over the boat, like just go swim children, little kids into the ocean. And then what did John Howard say? We don't want people in the country like that, who are going to throw children in the water. We wouldn't want people like that. Unless they can swim very fast and then we'll have you on the Olympic team. That was a challenge. Hey, scoop that one out. He looked strong.

We'll put him in the AIS at the water polo too. That's unbelievable treading. Australia only wants athletes. I'm Croatian. I just got my Croatian citizenship, right? Now that's like my blood, my family's all from there. Took me 10 years. Took me 10 years to get into this little country that quite frankly needs my tax revenue, right? The whole world is kind of harsh to get into. And America has 350 million people.

The national debt is outrageous. Obviously it's been pillaged by the elite. I'm not some dumb right-winger that thinks like, we're going to protect. What I'm saying is, is they go, think of the love. You need to be full of love to let foreigners in. And I also think you can also have love by going, how are we treating the ones that are already in? How is the healthcare system for the people that don't have it?

Well, the ones that are already in, they're, they're rounding them up and they're kicking them out right now. There's not a lot of love for the ones that are already in this isn't stopping the people who are already in. How much love is there for the people in regional Ohio? I don't know if you've driven through their folks lately, but, um, we're not doing so well that we need millions of other people that we're going to have to try and feed and clothes. because there's enough people currently who are fucked. And also the people of Ohio. Thank you for listening to the podcast. Your, your state is beautiful.

Well, yeah, it could be beautiful, but you've been left behind. Stop it. Hey, so, so last week's podcast, we, we wrap up the podcast and then the next day, Elon Musk tweets, this is how fast the week is. This feels like old news. Elon Musk tweets, I'm going to drop a big bomb. Trump was with Epstein. That was the basic gist of it. Right. He was on the Epstein files. That's why the Epstein files haven't been released. And you ring me up and I've never heard you more excited. You go, oh, you just see what Elon said. You were panting

with excitement. I was on the plane and I was just watching so many people pull out their phone and then show it to people next to them as he started to hate tweet what was going on. And I thought it was very interesting that in pride month of all times in pride month, Donald Trump and Elon Musk proved to the world that you can't have two dads living in one house. So one of them had to go. One of them had to go. And unfortunately, Elon was the one who left. They gave him a key through the White House. And then I think he did a massive bump of ketamine off that key, went back to his phone and went, the guys are pedo, which I hear he doesn't have the key. I hear it's underneath the rock near the door, but he knows where it is. I think he used the key to key the Tesla that he gave to Donald.

Who is selling the car sticker into it himself. He's selling the car now, Donald Trump. But I had an interesting thing from, uh, Steve Bannon was interviewed about this and Steve Bannon's Intel, believe it or not, was that Elon and Scott Bessent had a physical fight and that's why Elon had a black eye. I also think that Elon wouldn't have been on the Epstein planes

because he doesn't seem like an easy hang. No. It's the same reason that I haven't been caught up in any of the ditty problems because I haven't been invited. Not a great party guest. Yeah, yeah, no, no one wants me at the Diddy parties. You know, you don't want to be doing a freak on.

They're trying to put porn on the screen and you're like, should we watch the snake? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't want to have like Diddy rubbing come into his nipples and me popping up from the bed. There ain't no party like a Diddy party because the Diddy party don't stop. And then I walk away. I've taken some drugs. I've gotten overexcited.

If you were at Diddy's party, you would have got on the couch, got the remote and put on the toys that made America. Yeah. The toys that made us. Yeah. It's a three part documentary series about the toys that we all know. And I think Elon is like, uh, it looks like they're sort of making peace from what I see he's doing.

How do you make peace after this? He's just gone. Yeah. He's a pedophile. Good night. And then just gone, Hey, you said some things. I said some things. We all said some things like you reckon that's what they do.

You know what? It reminded me a little bit of when friends fight. And then one of them is like, by the way, uh, he fucked the chick on the buck on the bucks party when we're away in Mexico. Well, that's the problem. That's okay. So I have a couple of friends and you were one of them, not to a full extent, but you're one of my sort of four people on earth who, you know, where all the

skeletons are like, you know, you know, how everyone you have that friend that you've shared everything with that they could go nuclear on you and destroy it. Right. I know all about your buggery. My skull buggery. They know enough things to destroy it. My wife has all this information. If I ever divorced my wife, my wife knows everything about my life.

She can, she can take me for everything. Right. But that was the thing. Elon was one of the few people who knew everything. Right. But that was the thing. Elon was one of the few people who knew everything about Trump. And this is the amazing thing. So he says Trump basically, um, went to Pito Island, right? That's what he's saying. Which, which I also think is not true simply because. Oh, I think he went, I think he knows Epstein. I don't think no mates. I don't, I, I, I know

he was friends with him, but I don't think Donald Trump's a pedophile. I do not. I think he likes the women. I don't think he's a pedophile. So I'm not going to say that he is. And the reason I don't think he went is just simply because you've had a Biden department of justice and FBI directors who had the paperwork and let's be honest, they wanted him gone. They probably would have revealed that information.

The people, okay. So I believe Epstein was bumped off. I also believe that there's people like Bill Clinton were there. If Prince Andrew was there, I believe there's a whole heap of people. So I'm not going to condemn Trump for this because I think that he's one of many, many, and I don't think he was going over there for that. But I look, I wasn't there, wasn't invited. Right.

Um, but, but because the state of Israel have no reason to try and control you, but you're going to stay, have no reason to try and control you. You're a dangerous man. Do you know, I was meant to be doing a gig in Israel was all books. I was doing a basketball ring. I've done a few gigs in Israel. I'm quite popular in Israel. So I was going to go do Israel. And then they, just before the war, just as the war broke broke out they can't they they rescheduled my show and they said They said are because of political unrest right after what happened at that music concert music vessel because of political unrest We're gonna reschedule the show and I said alright when for and they said two weeks time And I said do you think you'll have it all sorted by then?

Do you think we're only two weeks out from from the Palestinians and the Israelis really getting along you think you'll have it all sorted by then. Do you think we're only two weeks out from, from the Palestinians and the Israelis really getting along? You think you're that close? And you know what I said? Let's do it two months. Yeah. I remember this. I was like, I think it's over.

I still didn't. I still, I still am waiting for that gig. I've got lots of jokes for him. Lots of things. They're like, you know, Greta Greta Thunberg didn't stop her. She, she tried to bring that food over and she got intercepted. Thunberg, right. She, she would have been over the moon being kidnapped. Like that. She's needed to be in the press forever. I can't stand Greta Thunberg.

You know what? I can't stand more than Greta Thunberg. People who get angry at men who don't like Greta Thunberg. Like we're terrible human beings that we're mis misogynists in some way because we don't like Greta Thunberg. I don't, there's many men I don't like. I've talked about Amy Stanton. She's, what is the point of Greta, what was the point of her to begin with just going, how dare you, how dare you, the next Jedi, how dare you, who needs bloody Greta Thunberg? Now she's on a boat going up to Palestine. Get a job at McDonald's like every other teenager. How dare you? Who needs bloody credit? Now she's on a boat going off to Palestine. Get a job at McDonald's like every other teenager. How dare you? How dare you?

That was, that was their mission was, uh, she would go over to Gaza and look at the IDF and go, how dare you? And then they gave her a turkey sandwich and she went for free and she ate the turkey sandwich and she got deported. They put her in a seat next to the toilets. Did you see that? She actually got a turkey sandwich. Yeah. They came on board and they gave her a turkey sandwich and she was smiling. That's like the photo that's gone viral.

All right. And she got deported. Yeah. I'll tell you, there was no hunger strike from Greta. Oh, that's good because I was worried that she was going to be a martyr and, and no, no, she got deported. Oh no. They do it swiftly. Do it swiftly. They got her out of there, but you know, that's what we're relying. We're relying on Greta Thunberg and some actors on a boat. Did anyone ask Greta Thunberg to go there? Who, who, who finance Greta Thunberg going there? Who knows mate?

You know, look, I support people getting food into the Gaza strip so that people aren't starved to death. I mean, that's, that's another thing, you know, like it should, it should, uh, we should probably be getting fucking food and stopping Israel from committing atrocities against people you want to talk about. Nevermind ice. Yeah. I'm not getting into the Israel Palestine debate.

So moving right along. What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? Honestly, I've got a human being. It's terrible. And that's what's, that's what's happening at this. I like how all these bad things are happening in the world and it's affecting you so badly, a guy that's living in your mate's house in, in

Austin for a little bit, you're like, Oh, things are rough over here. I've been smelling shoes. Man, I had a good whiff of that fucking shoe and I haven't recovered. I'll tell you that. Is it rough? Is McCann's feet, do they stink? He's not, he's not a look. He's one of my dearest friends, but he's not, he's not the cleanest guy.

Yeah. He looks like you need to scrub him a little bit. One of those, one of those things that women have the sponge that exfoliates. I don't want to be a racialized, but the redheads, sometimes they, Oh, you don't think the redheads taste, smell, taste? I used to date a redhead. They, they, they have their own tastes. It's the red, they've got a Viking like flavor.

They've got a Viking like element to them. Yeah. That's where they come from. The Vikings. Yeah. Musty. I like redheaded. I'm like, that's where they come from. The Vikings. Yeah. Musty. I like redheaded. I'm a big fan of redheaded women.

I've always liked redheads. Is there anything that you'd like to discuss else that's happened in the news? I have a couple of things that I think are cool to take away from all the grimness that's happening. Well, how about, how about we cut to an interview with someone from the snake? Well, I just want to play, we can get, we got to finish on the snake. We're going to finish on this. I'd like to play you a couple of clips. Number one.

Here's a good one. You ready? Yes. I want you to pull up your phone right now. I go on the Instagram of it's called. Trog man. C H R O G M A N. Trog.

Like Trog. Yes. C H R O G M A N. Trog. Like Trog. Yes. C H R O G M A N. C H R O G. Man. Man. Here he is. Okay. So this kid. Trog man. He's got 863,000 followers and he only has five photos. Uh, he goes, he posts the videos, he posts the videos, but only a month ago, he had 800 followers.

Now this little fella is from my city of Adelaide in Australia from the, quite to be honest with you, the very low, low middle-class suburbs of St. Mary's Park. And his whole profile is this, he must only be 18, 19, whatever. He goes, Hey, anyone who follows me, come fight me in the park and we'll film it. And he brings boxing gloves and they just bash on. That's the whole video. And then at the end, they sort of give each other a hug and go their separate ways. He started fighting in the park lands of Adelaide. And then his parents were like, stop making this stupid content or leave. And so he left and he was borderline homeless.

And within one month, he's up to eight hundred and fifty thousand followers. And now people are fighting him in Paris and in Rome. He was just arrested at the Colosseum for fighting an Italian guy. Right. It's all sort of good humor, boxing on. And then Andrew Tate saw his videos and goes, get on my private jet. I'll give you a smashing in Romania. So this little homeless kid from Adelaide was flown to Romania, put boxing gloves on and just got decked by Andrew Tate.

I look, I've only, I've only just seen the footage of I'm going to have a fight gambling my rent, right? He gambles his rent as well. He gambles his rent and he's fighting a random follower day 13. He's dressed very culturally insensitive when he does this one. Oh yeah. Where is he? Yeah. He wore like Roman outfits. He wore the beef eater costume. Okay. He's fighting an Asian fella and he showed up wearing like a kimono. It's fucking great. All right.

Okay. He's a winner. I understand the popularity of this. You get the popularity. He has, I'm sorry to tell you, I can just tell from looking at a bloke's face and demeanor, he will be on meth if I don't think this lad needs a lot of money. I think money is the last thing he needs. Well, that's it.

And it's coming. And I thought we might, I was going to put out a challenge that we could fight the, the trog man. And if we did have to fight the trog man, which one of us would step up to the plate? You have to step up. I'm an old man.

I've got arthritis. I've got no knees. I've got arthritis in my shoulder. I want to fight the trog man near the Hollywood sign or we get him to fight an ice agent. All right. You fight the trog man. I'll come down. Cause I've got no knee. I'll have to strap up the knee. I'll just fall down. Let him punch in. Fall down. I don't think I've got the profile. I think the trog man's gone beyond me. Well, that's, that's how you're going to, it's like, I can't fight the trog man. I'm the host

of game shows. You can't be a game show host and fight the truck man. I have game shows in Australia and game shows in America. I can't be the truck man. Funny. Jack, would you fight the truck man? Being associated with you is already trepidus. I'm just a, is trepidus a word? Is that right?

Trepidatious. Trepidus is good though. Trepidus works. Yeah. Trepidus works. Yeah, trepidus. Yeah. Okay. So that was that. And then one other video I wanted to show you. Everyone check out the trog man. I think it's, I think it's what the Instagram video content's all about. Really. It's just a young lad having a go. Another video that I wanted your comment on was pool foot, obscure British comedian.

Oh, Jack, give me your phone. I'm going to ring this pool guy. I got a pool. I got a pool that has a bit broken with it and it was under its warranty. Right. And so what I do is I call the guy up and he goes, my friend, my friend. Oh no, this is, I'm sorry. The, we don't normally do work at this path. I don't know what is happened here, but this is not worth fighting over. This is not worth fighting over.

So we are going to fix your pool. We're going to fix your pool. We're going to fix your pull and then he goes and I'll do it next week and I'll do it in the morning and I'll do it the day after tomorrow with the thing and then I ring him up from Jack's phone now. Start ringing from other phones. Let's see if he's here. Soon. Thank you for calling. Please leave a message. Please speak clearly.

Your voicemail is being transcribed by you mail. Hello, it's Jim Jeffries here. You were coming to fix my pool at 12. I rang you the other day and you said you'd be over at 12. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. being transcribed by you now. Hello, it's Jim Jeffries here. Um, you were coming to fix my pool at 12. Uh, I rang you the other day and you said you'd be over at noon. I have text you today.

I'm saying if you're going to be late, um, but, uh, it's one o'clock now, one 11 and you're not here, so if you can call me back on this number or my number that you had before, I'd much appreciate it, mate. Good on good on you. Have a good day. Bye bye. All right. So we'll do that. What was that soft little tone of voice? No, no, no, because he wants me to go where the fuck are you? He wants that. So we can go fuck you. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Don't you fuck to talk like he wants to do that one is luring you in. Yeah. He's

luring me in, but not answering things. I don't stuff. So, uh, so I'm just going to keep being overly pleasant until I bring some lawyers in or what have you, and then we'll figure it out. Okay. I'd like to play you this Paul Foot clip. Just get your opinion. Okay. Okay. So I'm going to play this.

Maybe we could put this up. Here we go. This is for people and for people in America who don't know, uh, Paul Foot is a real wacky comic, right? In fact, I believe Russell Brand initially modeled himself on pull foot. Someone said, yeah, he loved Russell brand love poor foot. And so he is poor. I like poor foot.

Poor foot is a good dude, man. His pull foot performing some new standup comedy in a British club and an Australian woman went along and didn't enjoy it. Yes. Here we go. Well, surely it was sensitive to type 2 diabetes. It was insensitive to people with diabetes. I don't think so. I think so and I have diabetes. You've got diabetes?

I have type 1 diabetes, yeah. I don't think it's up to you to decide if it's insensitive or not. And then this is him doubling down, questioning my intellect, and then he also blames me for the awkward tension in the room. I'll just let you watch it. I don't think it's up to you to decide if it's insensitive or not. So yeah, okay. First of all, what was the joke? They don't post the joke, but you do think would be nice as a comedian to have a rubber bullet.

Yeah. Well, look, okay. We don't know the joke. I don't believe there's any joke that warrants her actually thinking that she's more important than everyone else in the room that she about diabetes, about diabetes, which by the way, I make jokes about cancer. I've made jokes about AIDS. I've made jokes about different disabilities. I've made jokes like they are jokes, right? As long as I'm not going, you're a piece of shit for this fucking reason to a person.

That's Paul foot. Who's not exactly telling it like it is Paul foot's just an not going, you're a piece of shit for this fucking reason to a person. That's Paul foot who's not exactly like Paul foot's just an easy going quirky sort of comic and it was a bit, Ooh, look at that. Ooh, chance. Okay. Okay. A bit of that. Yeah.

Right. Funny comic, very funny guy. Paul foot, uh, harmless, harmless comedy. I'll tell you. And, uh, for her to go, Oh, that's insensitive to people who have diabetes. Uh, it's always the gingers that complain in it. It's always the red heads. They can't help themselves.

They taste different as well. You know that? Yeah, they do. It's what she's Australian redhead. She had to go to England just to escape the fucking sun. You know, if she stayed in Australia, she would, the skin cancer would have killed her far faster than the diabetes is going to get out. Well, I don't know why she didn't jump up on stage and punch him.

Probably because she had a foot cut off from the diabetes. Grow up, grow up. The world's not about you. The fact that you had to go and go, and then he questions my intellect. I'm questioning your fucking intellect. Why do you think you're so smart that you can cut off somebody and go, don't like, it's a performance fucking piece, right? You don't watch Star Wars and go, ah, fucking Darth Vader was out of order there. That was fucking bullshit.

You shouldn't have done that. Luke's going to need that hand. Yeah. Or, or as my friend's dad, who's a very conservative man said about Star Wars, the first time I spoke to him, he goes, I wanted to stand up in the cinema and say, this whole movie is undermining the American efforts in the Vietnam war. And I thought, that's a you thing, mate. Save that one for the car ride home. Whatever happened to going to a show and you hate the performer and you look at the person who you came with and you go, fuck, we're going to bitch about this in the car. What do you have to do with that?

You have so many platforms to show your dislike of things, right? To show how much you hate things now. We have never in society had more opportunity. Right now, underneath this clip, there are people writing, Oh, you can go fuck yourself. I saw you when it was a fucking shit show and I didn't fucking enjoy blah, blah, blah. You've got forums, you've got friends, you've got podcasts, you can ring up people, you can tell everyone you fucking know, don't disrupt the rest of the show for everybody else because you think it's shit. I've been to so many plays that have bored the living tits of me.

I have been to stand up comedy that I've the living tits of me. I, I've been to stand up comedy that I've thought is the most useless, fucking boring shit I've ever watched in my life. And I just sat there and I took it. And then, you know what I did? I didn't see that act again. I moved on. The public has a way of voting with their feet. I like this. I hate this. I'm not going to see it. I'm not buying a ticket. Right. So what is that? That tone, you know, we talk about people coming to a country to escape persecution. And obviously there are people from Latin America escaping gangland violence. I consider myself a refugee from whatever those sorts of Australian women are.

That's why I'm in America. That's what, like they might have the cartel, but I have the Melbourne cartel of, well, I didn't agree with that. And it made me feel uncomfortable. And like, you know, as soon as they start moving the hands, I have someone who comments under every single one percent clue that I treat the contestants like a creep or something. You're like, what, what are you fucking watching? The show rates really well. The people who are on it have a fucking wonderful time. No contest. Every contestant after the show takes a photo with me and says, I had a lovely fucking day, Jim, that was buddy one, you know what I mean?

And then you have a few people. I don't like the way that you made a joke about woman who was standing there. Great, great segue, Jim, about the way you treat the contestants. We actually have a contestant from your most recent show. Yeah. I think we're getting, I believe on the zoom right now, here we go. We will have Katherine from the snake. Welcome to the show, Katherine. Thanks. Thank you. Thanks for being on. It's good to see you again. I you're the first contestant I've seen since the show wrapped. Um, people, I miss you, but I miss me.

What I done wrong. You never came with good news, Jim. I it's not deciding to see you, but I'm sure you miss me. That is the thing about these shows. Whenever the host walks in, it's never like, Hey, everyone, it's ice cream Sundays. It's always like, we're going to tell the truth about all the things that you said to us in private interviews. It's always nasty stuff like that. So, um, Catherine, you show up, you're in a crate, you're putting a field, we're in Argentina, a lot of people don't know that we're in Argentina. You're blindfolded until the crate

opens, right? The crate opens, you see all your fellow contestants, you see me. What's your first thought? My first thought was like, what did I get myself into? I looked around at the other contestants and it was a bizarre group of people. Like I saw a priest and I was like, what is a priest doing in a game of like deception? That was like my biggest thought. And I saw a priest and I was like, what is a priest doing in a game of like deception? That was like my biggest thought and I was trying to guess like whose job was whose. I thought Frankie was the bounty hunter. Couldn't be farther from that, but yeah. And Catherine, my question to you is obviously, you know, you're on a big game show for the Fox Network. Were you a little bit like, was Ryan Seacrest busy?

big game show for the Fox network. Were you a little bit like, was Ryan Seacrest busy? They did. Did they, did they tell you that I was going to host the show? Like, not that you knew? They did not. No. Okay. I wasn't familiar with Jim's work. Happy that I am now because you're like a funny Jeff Probst over here, but I wasn't familiar prior. Jim Jeff Probst. Jim Jeff Probst.

Jim Jeff Probst. So you come out, you're all in the crates. Oh, I'm standing there. I have to go. prior. So you come out, you're all in the crates. Oh, I'm standing there. I have to go. You're the most manipulative people. I was told you were all very manipulative people. I had to constantly ask you, holy shit. Hold on. Let me see something.

Fuck, fuck. Make an edit point here, Jack. This is, if this is what I think it is. Well, you got a phone call? No, I've the guy that's fixing my pool. I just ring him. He started ghosting me. So I just, he can leave this in the podcast. So I just ring him from Jack's phone every now and again, and he answers, hello, my friends. And I'm like, Hey, just about the pool. Ah, you guys I'll be there tomorrow. He's never coming.

He's never coming. You're cycling through phones with everyone. Yeah. Yeah. I just use everyone else's phone. I just ring him up all the time. He hates me with a passion. Just say, fuck you. I'm not going to do it. Right. But it's their repair that they have to do. It's under warranty. Anyway, you should really dress that up as a segment on the show and get all the contestants to call this guy for you. I will. I will still prank on him. That's my next thing is I just released his cunt's phone number. I don't care. I've tried everything. Anyway, so, um, so you come out, you're in the box.

First thing that happens is we're telling you, you all, we mentioned all the different occupations. As you said, you saw a priest, you saw a cheerleader, you saw a rodeo rider for the longest time you ever seen the show. Um, uh, jury Judy Catherine seen jury. Judy. It's very good. Oh, you're seeing the show.

The Joe Schmo show. Okay. The Joe Schmo show is a show like the snake, but only one contestant is real and all the rest of the contestants are actors. Yeah. I'm familiar with the concept. Yes. That's what I thought was going on.

I thought you were all actors and people were taking the piss out of me. As soon as I saw the right. Yeah. Cause I didn't know anything about the contestants. They didn't brief me on the contestants or anything when they all came out. They wanted my natural reaction as well when the boxes popped open and you all fell out and, uh, so I didn't know any of you either now, then we're standing up there next thing in the show, who wants to take charge, who thinks they're in

charge and Mina puts a hand up. Good move, bad move. What do you think? I think Nina putting her hand up was a bad move. The second that someone asks for a volunteer in the very beginning of a show like this, that's anything that's going to put too much attention on you, I think is a bad move. You don't want to drag too much attention to yourself in the beginning because

you never know how you're going to piss people off. And Mina was asked, pick the, what is it? It was seven or something, right? Best people in the, in the game. And you weren't picked. She picked all law enforcement people. She picked the detective. She picked the cop. She picked, uh, cause she's a bounty hunter.

She picked the priest cause she wanted God on her side. Um, but you weren't picked. Was that a blessing or a curse? Were you happy at the time? I think you're probably happy now you weren't picked, but, uh, were you happy at the time? I think you're probably happy now you weren't picked, but were you happy at the time you weren't picked? Actually, at the time I really believed being picked was going to be a bad thing. I was so certain that there was going to be a twist coming and I was really glad to stay in the background because as long as I could be someone who could

be underestimated, if I could be someone that people just doubted that would be strong or playing the game. That's the game I wanted to play. So I did not want her to pick me at all. Well, everyone seemed to have very set characters. To me, when I watched it, you reminded me of Anna Kendrick in Up in the Air. Do you watch that movie with George Clooney, the woman that goes around firing people? No, but now I will. That was kind of who I thought your vibe was going to be. And then you had the quote of the night for me, which was I would throw a person under a bus or a truck,

I forgot, for $100,000. I don't even remember saying that, which is the best part is that like, I just kind of say whatever really comes to my mind, like in my real life and on the show, which I think that just made it so much more like real and authentic. Cause when I went in, I was like, I'm going to be unfiltered. Like I hate when people act super scripted or like try to give off this certain image. I'm like, no, like I'm going to play the game hard and I'm going to be ruthless. They obviously undervalued you. That's what, that's what I think Jim was getting at.

It was like getting picked for the soccer team. You guys were left struggling there and obviously they thought, oh, this lady is not going to be very strong. And then you got the opportunity in the box where the snake necklace was. And that's where we revealed the first game. You had the necklace. What was the strategy as soon as you felt in there from your front? What were you thinking you were going to do?

You know, my strategy when I found out the medallion was in my box was I knew I wanted to initially partner with Jordan and Brian. So I was like, I did not want to be the snake. I was like, I do not want to drag any attention to myself. I don't want to piss people off in the very beginning, because if I have to send someone home in the very beginning, that is just enough reason for someone to send me home next week. So I was like, you know, I'm in need to act pretty badly. So Jordan is the person who picks my medallion. And Vonte was actually the one who, you know, called my bluff. I acted a little too badly. So he picked it out.

And I, you know, like I offered Brian, I told him, I was like, listen, like I have the medallion and you can take it from me because I wanted Brian to know that he could trust me. I wanted to be able to establish a pact very early in the game with people that I thought I could trust. And if I, you know, extended out this medallion as like leverage for him, then he would trust me and want to work with me. Also with Brian, like so if anyone hasn't watched the show, watch the show. It's a great show. but Brian is a jewel thief. That's he's an ex con. He went to prison for three years.

And I was surprised when you were saying, I have the medallion. I didn't know who had the medallion. I'm just hosting a thing. I'm just moving that lazy Susan around with the box. Right. Anyway, so, so you, you wanted Brian to have it, but you got, you got it back from Devonte. Devonte actually took it.

Then you took it back. Why did you got it back from Devonte. Devonte actually took it. Then you took it back. Why did you take it back to begin with? Because I didn't, in the very beginning of the show, I did not trust Devonte at all. I thought Devonte was going to be, you know, like he's a poker player. I was not gonna put the fate of my game in the hands of a poker player

who lies and bluffs for a living. That's not somebody I want them to, that's not somebody that I want to have. The medallion, the medallion, I wanted it to go to somebody who I thought was going to be, um, less, what is the word for it? Unknown felon. That's what you should have. You should have poker players too shady.

Reformed. So that really should tell you like exactly where my head was at the game that I was willing to extend out to the Fallon. But you know, something about Brian, I just trusted his vibe and I really did trust him. And he's might be a good little jewel thief, but he couldn't steal that pendant from me, which was such a disappointment. But he stole everyone's hearts. One of my favorite things that you said in this first episode was when you were walking

along to the dinner to go surprise other people and they caught this on microphone, you saying to Brian, all my family are felons. No, because that was honestly, they are like, you know, maybe that's why he felt like family to me. Like, I heard him talk and I'm like, this feels like home. So maybe that's why I trusted him. But then you spoke to Derek and he said, all my family are in law enforcement.

Or was it, what's her name, Kaylee? And he said, all my family are in law enforcement. It was Derek. So my parents are cops. Your parents are cops. Extended family, felons. Oh. And then the other half of the family, missionaries.

And the product of that is me. So like, I don't know if that really tells you, but it means I should be on reality TV, apparently. It's an interesting Thanksgiving. That's for sure. Yeah. What do you, and so what do you do?

It's, I said something in tech. What is your, are you, do you have a partner? Are you, you know, what, what was your aim going in with the hundred thousand? Was it to win the prize money or are you trying to launch something? Have you got a, a page, an online Etsy store. I do write and I did want to use part of the money to like help publish my book. I've been, I've been writing for years and I would love to be, you know, a full-time author and that's a really big like dream of mine. So I would have loved to use, I would love to use that money to.

Fiction, like a fiction fiction writer? Yes, fiction for women. Can you do a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bittime author and that's a really big dream of mine. So I would have loved to use, I would love to use that money to... Fiction? Like a fiction writer? Yes, fiction for women. Can you elevate a pitch me one of the stories right now? It's probably not appropriate to talk about on your podcast because I write about Smut.

Oh, and we're a clean podcast. We're a clean podcast. You do romantic novels, do you? Yes, I do. I love writing romantic novels, do you? Yes, I do. I love writing romantic novels and I love reading them. And is it like mills and boons? Like she thrust her body against him as the sweat glands or the whatever. That type of stuff is that type of stuff.

I hope I'm using more words than you, Jim. Come on. But I've never read any of these books. I'm more into picture books. It's okay. Um, uh, it's, I think it's a little bit'm more into picture books. It's OK. I think it's a little bit more slow burn than that. It's not that.

What was the big one, the big dirty one they made into the movies lately? That was 50 Shades of Grey. 50 Shades of Grey. I'm not on that level. I don't write the 50 Shades of Grey kind of stuff. But if you 100 100 flavors of vanilla, if you go to see the thunder from down under, uh, they have one section where they come out and suits before they strip and it's called 50 shades of G'day. Oh God. Yeah. Yeah. Go on Australia. Fly that flag. Anyway. So you

become, you become the snake, whether you want to or not, we walk down to the dinner. There's the big reveal. You have to hold the snake medallion up, which I will be saying throughout these podcasts needs to be double-sided. Every time I held it, it span around and I was in trouble. We had to start again because the one side wasn't covered, but you held the snake medallion up the most coveted thing in the game. And then we go to the house where everyone's getting along in the house.

You promised a few people that you would save them. You promised Jordan. You promised Kayleigh. You promised Brian. You promised a lot of people. What made you decide for Jordan? So I picked Jordan because I knew I could trust her. Jordan was somebody who was willing to kind of appease like the group in the sense that

you know, Jordan did not make us wait when we were all sitting in the boxes. She was like, you know, when it's hot, I'm gonna put my hand down and I'm gonna let Mina take over and like put that position. So I was like, you know what, Jordan's looking out for the good of the group. Jordan was somebody who was looking out for the good of the group. So I trusted her right off the bat. Brian, I trusted just based off his energy. Kaylee, I never wanted to save Kaylee. And I think like that is something that I want to make clear. I wanted Kaylee gone.

I wanted Kaylee gone more than Nina, but this girl was coming up to me in the house like 12 different times being like, I really don't want to go home tonight. And she was making people uncomfortable. Everyone wanted her gone. And the more I got to like, I really don't want to go home tonight. And she was making people uncomfortable. Everyone wanted her gone. And the more I got to, like, at first I kind of liked her and she wasn't my target initially. I was actually gunning for Mina. I wanted Mina to be the one that went home.

And Mina was somebody who pissed off the group by not picking people. She put other people in a bad position by not allowing them to compete for the title of the snake. So my eyes were really set on Mina going home. and I was shocked that Kayleigh was in the bottom But honestly I was happy about it because I felt like that everyone kind of wanted her gone And I just wanted to appease the group so I could not make anyone mad in the beginning The saving ceremony is what I think is the secret source of the show. And if you haven't watched the show, you've seen other shows where there's an elimination ceremony

where people might vote for something and majority rules. This isn't majority rules. This is the snake decides who gets saved first, and that person decides to save another person, that person decides to save another person, so on and so forth. So we left with two people at the end. And then the snake decides who gets saved and who goes home. Now, the beauty of this is you really only need one person to have your back.

Right. That won't last you the whole game, but initially that will, you need one person to say, I'll save you if you save someone else. Um, I was never, I never partake in any of the conversations. As you said, I only showed up when there was bad news or there was a task to be done or there was a saving ceremony to be had. Is all the chat in the house, is it all about the ceremony and who's gonna save who,

or is that just the moment here and there? Honestly, the chat is really, I feel like people kind of walk on eggshells around the house. They don't wanna talk about the saving ceremony, especially early in the show, because they don't want people to know who they're going to pick. And they don't want people to know who they want in the bottom.

So everyone's really trying to get to know each other. We had intense like family bonding moments and we were all, you know, just trying to get to know each other and break the ice and see who we could trust just based off like the judgment we can see about like the personal lives these people like had. So we really got to know each other so deeply, so quickly in this show. Can I ask you a question quickly? Sorry Jim. If as this show goes forward and you sit here now on the precipice of it being released to the American mass, everyone you know is going to watch it. Do you think through your

head of something you said, where you're going, I really hope that doesn't make it onto the show. Do you have one in particular that you lay there at fan? She can only talk about this episode. She can only talk about this episode. That's the thing. No, I know. But not giving anything away, but even like a comment you made about someone, is there one that's really bad? There's one that's so bad. Honestly, there's like a dozen that are so bad and there's probably worse things that I don't remember. And that scares me.

But I remember some things I would say in the second that I said it, I was like, shit, I like. I love, we can talk about this because the trailer coming up next on the snake and this season on the snake, you have the sound bite of all sound bites. We have the sound bite where you look at Pastor Jacob and you said, and God hopes that you burn like that. Right. That's the quote of quotes. That one's that one's people are going to yell to you People are gonna yell that to you as they're driving past you in the street. Why have I started stuttering again? You know that was such a like I cringe hearing that line But people thought it was so funny and I'm like, I don't even like I I barely remember being there The whole thing was a fever dream. So me saying that I mean God are you pointing at a guy in a priest color saying, I hope you burn.

The irony is that it's insane to me. Priceless. Fantastic. Well, if he isn't a Catholic, I endorse that message. So we go to the savings ceremony, you get up there and you already told me in a pre-interview that they slightly pepper into the show that you were going to cry, right? That it was going to be, I must have forgotten this because I was like, I watched that back and I go, Oh, she was fake. I thought you were crying. I thought you deserved it. And I was like, Oh look, I am programmed. If a woman's crying next to me,

I just believe him. I just go, okay. But I thought you were crying. Oh yeah. I mean, I wanted to be the sweet innocent girl that everyone just going to go, okay. But I thought you were crying. Oh yeah. I mean, I wanted to be the sweet, innocent girl that everyone just, you know, felt bad for. And like the fact that people were like, you know, you see Jack say, he's going, aw. And like, it's so funny to me because like, they're feeling bad for me.

And I was lying. Like everything that came out of my mouth was a lie. So. Kaylee did that one, which looks like an apple when I do it. I didn't even see her doing it there. And when I saw that in the clip, I cringed a little bit because I told that girl she wasn't going to go home.

But honestly, that's why she did it because she's like, I got your back. You got this girl. Don't worry about it. You're all good. And then as soon as you save someone else, and she was just like, she was filthy with you. Would you be, how would you feel if you walked into a bar and saw her tonight?

Would you be cool? Because at the end of the day, it's a game. It's just a game. Yeah. Like to me, everything I did in that house was a game. It doesn't translate to my personal feelings about people in real life. I have no ill will towards that girl. I didn't want to play the game with her anymore and I'm happy with the decision that I made, I would do it all over again. That was definitely not something I regret.

Well, I got to say you came across in the first episode as someone just like you said there, who is playing the game. And that's what we're here to watch. We're not there to watch people make friends. We're looking for people to win the hundred thousand dollars to cover their rent. This awful economy that we live in in America. I'm excited to see how you progress in there. Before we finish, I just thought I'd get your final take on my friend, Jim Jeff Probst. I'd like three words to describe his performance in the time you spend in the jungle. Three words about our host. Um, okay. Well, when I think of Jim as the host, I think

psychological torture summer camp, that's like four words. It's not really describing everything he went through. Psychological torture summer camp. I'll tell you. Did you, did you get the parasite? A lot of people got the parasite. The crew were all shitting themselves. I got so sick. I had COVID like post show. I was so, so sick. I had like IVs in me and like the hotel after the show. I was, I was really, really sick. It was awful.

All right. So any contestants wanting to be in the snake? It sounds like a lot of fun. That's fucking great. I've been sick. That was my karma for Kayleigh. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. after the show I was I was really really sick it was awful. All right so any contestants wanting to be in the snake it sounds like a lot of fun that's fucking great. That was my karma for Kayleigh. All right well thanks very much Catherine and good luck. Hopefully we can have you again on the show further on in the season and good luck. All right. Thank you guys. I can't wait. Thanks, Catherine. Bye bye. That was Catherine and everybody.

Watch the snake on Fox 9 PM Tuesday. Uh, Tuesday nights, Tuesday night. We're going to try to have a guest on every week after, after the episode, we're going to try to have a guest on every week. What we'll do is we'll start using the people who have been eliminated moving forward or what have you, um, but, uh, I'm looking forward to talking to them all again. It was nice talking to Catherine Justine. And congratulations on, seriously, you know.

Are you going to give me a compliment? Well, no, strings to the bow. You know what I mean? The guy that started saying cunt in a ferocious manner about sex. And now all these years later, you're a family-friendly game show host on the Fox network. On the Fox. And I got, and I got a movie coming out. I will be honest with you.

And I got a podcast with you. Everything's happening. Our, our, our friendship. I would have never thought that you're the one that got on Fox before me. That's all I'm going to say. You can't even get on Fox and friends. They won't even consider you a friend. Gutfeld hasn't called for you.

Fucking Gutfeld. You've read his book. Well, it's because I'm, I'm largely, I'm friendless. I find, um, I like, um, uh, Jamie Liso very much. I think he's hilarious on, uh, on gut field. Uh, I've worked with him as well. He's a really funny guy.

Uh, and he works a lot with, uh, uh, Rob Schneider, um, and he good dude. But so I w watch him on gut field. Also, I'm friends with Dr. Drew and he's always on gut feel. I reckon I've got enough connections, man. I'm like, I just get on gut feel just to piss you off. You do that. But I've, as I said to you before, I think comedians are best served being a little bit in the opposition, you know, I think it's fun to go on that show when

Biden was in and now, and now that Trump's in, I do probably want to be on Rachel Maddow's show. Um, what, what you don't want to be in the, like I can be in the opposition for Trump, I meant to be on Gutfield right now. Yeah. So that's a more fun place for you. I think cheerleading is a difficult position to be in. And that's why, like I said, with this immigration stuff, I am seeing it from many sides and

that doesn't win you too many fucking friends. But your opinion always seems to be yours. Which is good. Yeah, which is good. Which is bloody good. And listen, I wish I could voice my full opinion, but I got two weeks until my visa renewal. So Viva La Donald! Viva La Donald! Viva La Don!

Well I think that wraps the podcast up ladies and gentlemen. Muy bien Ice! He wants more ice, is what he said. Give me more ice. Oh, ice is twice as nice. I'll see you guys next week on what is going to be what? When are we going to be next week? We're going to have another episode.

We're going to have another guest from the snake and write to us and tell us what you thought of this episode, but not to me. Not to, don't give it to me. There's a guy that messages us every week. I said that I liked RFK and he gives me a message every week that I'm killing kids with measles. So always fun to get your feedback. Well you don't have to hear from those kids with measles anymore now do you? They're in some bubble or something you know what I mean? Yeah they wouldn't have wi-fi in their house anyway. They wouldn't be able to download it. We could have

cut this a long time ago everything as every second that goes on gets worse for me. Good night, Australia.