I Don't Know About That - ATM: Episode 17 - Bonnie Blue Meets an Uncontacted Amazon Tribe
Episode Date: June 25, 2025At this moment Jim and Amos debate the Iran/Israel situation, theorize on what would happen if Bonnie Blue met up with an uncontacted Amazon tribe, and how Captain James Cook's ship was finally discov...ered! Also Bryan Sobolewski from the Snake jumps in! Watch THE SNAKE on FOX every Tuesday at 9pm ET/8pm CT and available the next day on Hulu. SOCIALS: Jim Jefferies Website: https://www.jimjefferies.com IG: https://www.instagram.com/jimjefferies FB: https://www.facebook.com/JimJefferies Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimjefferies Amos Gill IG: @abitofamosgill FB: https://www.facebook.com/AmosGillComedy/ Theme Song: "Rein It In Cowboy" by the Doohickeys
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Hello everyone, welcome to ATM at this moment with me Jim Jefferies and Amos Gill. Tonight we're
going to cover such amazing things as the little-known news story of the war in Iran.
What else are we covering Gilly? We will also discuss a lost treasure on the bottom of the
ocean that's been found after 250 years, special for both you and, Jim. We are also going to give our review of the snake.
And I'll tell you what people, if you're not watching this night, what's the
snake, cause it's a banger.
I'm not just saying I'm actually enjoying the snake now.
You know, what's getting good about the snake is I don't know what's happening.
Cause I was never there during the actual time in the house.
I love watching the snake.
We're going to be talking to Brian from the snake.
Oh, that's fantastic.
Can you review? Cause I'm going to to I'm on tour a lot at the moment
I mean Austin I'd like you to quickly review my Airbnb artwork what do you think?
Is that meant to be a cloud over the top of a rock with a snake jumping?
Listen if you've got a comment on it.
It's a little Ken Donnie I like it I'd have'd have it up. It's colorful. It pops. I'm a big fan.
Well, enjoy the podcast.
Everybody also, also quickly before we go join us this week, me and Amos will be
out together doing standup comedy in, in Rockford, Illinois at the Hard Rock
Casino, June 27th and Bristol June 28th at the Hard Rock Live.
So two Hard Rock gigs. Also
July 25th I will be in Maui, July 26 I will be in Honolulu then every gig after
that is all of Europe and all of the UK and I mean all of Europe and all of the
UK. I will be cancelling my gigs in Iran but go to JimJeffreys.com.
I am going to Chicago on the 11th, 12th and 13th at Zanies.
So I'll see you there.
And if there are any Iranians winning the Flamingo, I will work around.
I'll do it.
I don't give a fuck.
Let's go.
All right, ladies and gentlemen. So here's the podcast.
What are we going to talk about today?
Gilly?
Well, mate, the big thing is obviously Iran.
What what's happened?
When did this happen?
What's going on?
I can, you know, it's really hard when we're doing a show, like a
topical show at this moment.
And I forget where we left it off last time.
It was the, and the eve of it.
And there's been a lot since we spoke.
So in one week we were like, uh, what's going on in Israel, whatever, blah, blah,
and now it was like the next day it was Israel did targeted bombs on Iran.
Yes.
And then we had now I've got to give it up for you.
Amos all these years, all these years, one of my things about you where I just
went, he's mentally ill, was
your love of Tucker Carlson.
Yeah.
Big fan of his writing.
Love him.
Love him.
Every time he was on Tucker can do no wrong.
During the years of the Jim Jeffries show, we were opposed to Tucker Carlson, did not
like Tucker Carlson.
And I still don't particularly like him.
He seems like a very punchable man.
What? don't particularly like him. He seems like a very punchable man.
Exactly. With these little fat little cherub face and his little thing. But you know what?
He did an excellent job with Ted Cruz.
So what's the population? Well, you wouldn't know like a country that you're trying to what you don't know. Now that's cute Tucker.
That's cute Tucker.
But listen, we've got a bomb regime change.
You don't want to know that the population of a place that you're, you don't know.
I don't need to know how many falafels are in the neighborhood to commit a genocide.
91 million, 91 million falafels in the, in the neighborhood.
That's how many.
It was one million.
But you know what the funny thing is?
It was, it was was it was in Exodus.
It was so long ago that we were talking about India and Pakistan.
And then there was Israel and Iran trading blows.
And then Donald Trump went out there.
And let's be honest, last week, there's been a massive schism on the American
right because the Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlsonson and then we saw Marjorie Taylor green the
Isolationists of the MAGA movement were like the big base supported you well their base did
For no war because all the shit about Donald Trump and there's plenty don't get me wrong
The I don't want to go to war and repeat the mistakes of Iraq is a big reason why a lot of people voted for him
Hey, this felt like it was to be a betrayal of those people.
The idea that Donald Trump was anti-war was the only thing I sort of dug about him,
whether he was being honest or not.
Now, his first term, he didn't go to war and all that type of stuff,
but his first term was primarily COVID, right?
So no one was doing anything.
Well, he took out Kwasam Soleimani, the general. And so he's always had that with Iran. Right. But no one was doing anything. Well, he took out, he took out Quassam Soleimani, the general.
And so that he's always had that with Iran.
Right.
But this, yeah, but this, okay.
So you're not the writer.
You'll say you remember this.
You would have been just a little boy during the weapons of mass destruction.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I remember, but I'm becoming out from school every night and, uh, from 2003 onwards watching what was going on.
And then the Colin power report where they, you know, they lied with the anthrax.
And yeah, I, at that stage, I would have been having sex with a girl and I would
have stopped doing that to watch the TV.
We were at different stages in our lives.
Right.
So, so, uh, we, the whole weapons of mass destruction, they're going to have this big gun,
they're going to put it together. Don't make me put it together. That's what Saddam was all about.
Right. It was going to be a big weapon turned out there were no weapons. So why now should we believe
that Iran has the capability to make a nuclear weapon?
What's it's definitely been, I was, that is the scars that the world is going through from the Western
countries anyways, we do know we were lied to on that one.
Now Iran, according to whatever that is the IEIA said that they are enriching uranium
to a certain level in the Fordow base.
And some of it could be for power, but they clearly do want to get a bomb.
Bibi Netanyahu says they've been wanting one for years and years.
And I was like two weeks away.
They're always two weeks away.
That's
something that one's two weeks away.
Such a salesman, Bibi Netanyahu, you know, we're just two weeks away.
You must bomb now.
This is a one-time offer or New York will be a mushroom cloud.
And also, also, also if they had an experimental bomb that they were close
to using, they would be sending that over now.
Also, I think I said this in the last podcast. What's with all the scientists? We've already invented
these weapons. You don't need to invent any bigger ones. We've already invented them. Just replicate
the ones we've already done. But I think because they have to use bits and bobs because they're
not allowed to import certain materials. So it's, what they essentially are is the myth busters guys
making things. So they're MacGyver. They've got to get a Persian MacGyver to make it.
All they need is a bit of uranium and some pinball machine parts like back to the future.
Anyway, so they're going.
Now I was going to say, so what I think is interesting about this is everyone was afraid
that and I think Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson both got into the White House into the ear
as opposed to the Fox News wing who want regime change and Ted Cruz basically wants the Ayatollah ripped out of there. And in
the middle of that, we sort of have what we have now, which is Trump does this mission. And I
thought I'd just break down the mission to you, because I know you didn't watch what happened.
So you saw the decoy. What did you think of the decoy?
I didn't know about that bit, tell me about that bit.
So I just was watching something before.
So the planes that actually struck the base
started in Whiteman Air Force Base, Missouri,
basically Kansas, Missouri.
Yeah. Okay.
So they flew some of the planes
and the news picked up on this,
which I remember seeing,
which was B-2 bombers being moved to Guam.
And it was part of that two weeks till we make a decision on what we're going to do.
And people thought, oh fuck, there's bombers there.
But secretly, another group of B-2 bombers left the other way and went across the country.
They refueled three times in midair, which is...
I hate war, but it is sick that they can refuel these bombing jets in the air.
Yeah.
In many particular times.
So they did not stop.
Each bomber carried 60,000 pounds of explosives.
What do you reckon?
Do you reckon they had the in-seat movies or do you reckon they had just movies
sporadically over the course of the thing?
Like you get to watch Jumanji and then you get to...
Oh, on their visor shields?
No, it's just if you're doing that long a flight, you can't get off.
You'd get sick of airplane food, but you have to enjoy the movie.
I think you're probably just chewing your face off on the Adderall as you grind your teeth.
Yeah, you don't really reckon they're watching season three of Band of Brothers?
Or just to throw off the radar from the Middle Eastern Air Force Defense.
It's like we're picking up Mission Impossible.
Yeah, exactly.
Or probably the new Top Gun,
which they probably should have planned for this.
In all fairness, you could watch Mission Impossible
from beginning to end on that flight.
The whole series.
The whole series, beginning to end.
So they strike on four Dow and the tons.
And so these bombs, 60,000 pounds each, they're meant to go into, I watched it
explain like this, they just drop.
And there's like three holes and they just keep dropping bombs onto the hole.
And it gets deeper and deeper and deeper to blow up the explosives.
What I saw is I saw a lot of like, just like fucking radio towers.
Yeah. And like a car parked next, just like fucking radio towers. Yeah.
And like a car parked next to a radio tower and then a hatch.
That's what I didn't understand is, is they said, and Trump very quickly was
like mission accomplished, you know, we've blown up all of their, uh, you
know, enriched uranium that was kept under Fordow, but my initial thought was,
well, for the last week, you've been saying we need these bunker
bot buster bombs to get rid of their cache of weapons.
You don't think the Iranians might have gone we might move those probably a good idea to
get them out of there.
And now our report says guess what we didn't destroy them.
Some of it had been moved and now they're a few months away from rebuilding again.
So that's where they can keep shooting.
Now Iran saying that they're not building anything and it's all a load of
bullshit and all that stuff.
Now I'll play devil's advocate.
Why aren't Iran allowed to have a nuclear weapon?
Why are we allowed to, and they're allowed to, and not say, because we
would be more responsible than them.
Yeah.
Look, I like to be more isolationist and I don't want to be one of these
people saying that because they'd blow us off the map, but they are, you know, a
fundamentalist Islamic theocracy who do say and do wave a flag about wiping
Israel off the map.
So that's why people would say, we think they might actually use it, even though
America did use it twice and they're are congressmen in the American Congress who do constantly say,
drop the bomb on Gaza.
So, yeah, ask constantly saying send them back to the stone age is always a bad quote.
Yeah, there's that guy Randy Fine, this fat fuck from, he's a Republican from Florida
who keeps saying that about Gaza, just drop the nuke.
So yeah, it doesn't make
us seem the all more moral fiber having people when we- Well that's exactly right. If you had
America, if you had America looking at you, why wouldn't you want to- we come from a- we live in
a country, we live in a country that's all about your right to defend yourself. Yes. And why do
they not have a right to defend themselves? Well listen, of course they have a right to defend
themselves but at the end of
the day, if they're our enemy, we do not want them to have the capabilities.
But why they are enemy?
What are they doing?
Right.
Okay.
In my lifetime, okay.
In the last, since nine 11, this has been the calmest, the radical Muslims have
been, right?
The car.
Yeah.
But if you want to break down Iran that the
God's honest truth is this Iran has all of the oil well have a lot of oil and
then the British government formed BP there oh I know about the oil we want
the oil yeah so I'm saying they were BP and then in 1953 they had a revolution
where they wanted to nationalize their own oil,
which of course you'd fucking want to do that.
And then America and Britain went, no, no, no, no.
So they put in this fake Shah, the king Reza Pavlov, whatever his name was.
And then he ruled with an iron fist, gave us all of the oil profits.
We supported him, made him the king.
And then in 1979, they have another revolution, which rightfully so I could imagine as an Iranian, you'd go, why the fuck does America get all of the money
from our oil fields?
And so now we've wanted them gone ever since.
As, as a big maggot guy and you are.
I'm not a big maggot guy.
Okay.
As a small maggot, as a small instant.
I'm five 10.
As a, as a, as a wimpy maggot guy.
As a limp.py MAGA guy.
As a limp-
I wouldn't be MAGA.
Donald Trump said that's not MAGA.
He says if you don't want to go to war, you're no longer MAGA.
So I can't be MAGA.
Okay.
So you're no longer MAGA.
So I was about to say-
I'm supposedly no longer MAGA.
I was about to say Donald Trump right or wrong in this situation.
In our normal segment to AMOS, Donald Trump right or wrong.
To be honest with you, we have to wait and see.
I'm terrified that there's going to be terror attacks. Your inkling is right or wrong. To be honest with you, we have to wait and see. I'm terrified that there's going to be, you know, your inkling is right.
Oh, wrong.
I thought wrong.
A hundred percent.
I don't want to watch him strike and get involved and risk nuclear war with Iran.
So it's safe to say that from what you're saying, right.
The underlying tone is if you could say one sentence to succinctly feel how you
feel,
it would be Harris should have won.
No, because I think if you think that Kamala Harris and Joe Biden would have also sorted
out the Iran issue, they would have given they would have given the Iranians the materials
to make the bomb. They would have they would have sent over the uranium there to go uranium,
we uranium, we all uranium. And they would have sent over the uranium. They'd go uranium, we uranium, we all uranium.
And they would have sent it over. Oh, I run, you run, we all ran.
Check out Mark Root's text message to Donald Trump today, which by the way,
if you're friends with Donald Trump, everything, he's like Kanye West.
All of his text messages just end up online.
So Mark Root is like a Dutch dude who's going to the, he's a head of NATO.
And I don't think he wanted to share, but this is what he wrote.
So this is what the Europeans are writing to Donald Trump.
Mr. President, dear Donald, congratulations and thank you for a decisive action in Iran.
That was truly extraordinary and something no one else dared to do.
It makes us all safer.
You are flying into another big success in the Hague this evening. It was not easy, but we have finally got all members of NATO to sign on
to 5% of GDP to military budget spend. Donald, you have driven us to a really, really important
moment for America and Europe and the world. You have achieved something no American president
in decades could get done. Europe is going to pay in a big way for their defense as they
should and it will be your win. Safe travels and I'll see you at his majesty's dinner. Mark Root, head of NATO.
Trump sent back a text like this. This is a picture of a girl I'm fucking. Look at her.
Look at her how hot she is. Was it Melania? Because he's a family man I hear. Yeah he's a family man,
who wouldn't be? So isn't that interesting? It is interesting that the more that he wants to bomb, the more he's getting
accepted by the NATOs and your CNNs.
All right.
So how does, how does this end?
Well, we, we'll just, okay.
So there's years of war, years of war.
All right.
Look, me personally, I don't feel safe in America right now.
I believe that Islamic terrorism is going to go through the roof.
I wouldn't go into a packed area this 4th of July if I was you.
Well, then you're safe at my comedy shows.
Right.
Coming to Chicago.
One of the safest places is that an Amos Gill comedy show, not a soul there.
No, I'll be honest.
A panic room.
You got to be, you got to be true there, right?
No one's thinking I will make my point by bombing Amos Gill.
Jim Jefferies is a danger for me.
Gilly, gilly, gilly, gilly, gilly, gilly, gilly.
I got to say, I want to play you some audio because you hadn't heard some of these.
So they put in that they put in that truce.
They put that truce in. Right.
And it was Israel and Iran who were both meant to adhere to it.
But he also got he gave them 12 hours.
So he goes in 12 hours, the truce will start.
Did he do that?
Did he do that with the time difference?
Were they asleep?
Did they wake up?
Did they wake up like, oh, fuck, I've got shit to do today.
You know, that terrible feeling.
Oh, we were meant to we were meant to drop all the bombs.
Oh, fuck.
No, we're meant to have a truce.
Why we didn't do it.
Just tell me, tell me we're doing the truce.
And so in the end, it turns out that Israel and Iran both broke the truce
pretty quickly and Donald for the first time ever swore.
So listen to this.
Have you ever heard him swear?
Hey, get the homo Simpson.
No, listen to this.
Simpson. No, let's do this. Israel as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs, the likes of which I've never seen before. The biggest load that we've seen.
I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, okay, now you have 12 hours,
you don't go out in the first hour and just drop
everything you have on them.
So I'm not happy with them.
I'm not happy with Iran either.
But I'm really unhappy of Israel's going out this
morning because the one rocket that didn't land,
that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land.
I'm not happy about that.
You know what? that was shot perhaps by mistake that didn't land. I'm not happy about that.
You know what we have we basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing. You understand that?
I will say this that was a good fuck. I don't like when people swear badly
That was a swear word from a man who swears constantly I have heard him say grab him by the pussy and it felt rolled off his tongue rolled off his tongue that fuck was
Grab grab him by the fucking pussy. Yeah, these cunts in Iran are these cunts in Israel go fuck themselves
Let's play on that. What's it gonna take for him to go?
Bibi the Ayatollah bunch of cunts. Bunch of cunts? I think he says that on
Australian tour to aggraciate himself. Hey Albo, you know I said the Ayatollah, what a
cunt am I right? This guy's a cunt. Bibi's not so cool either. What I can I should grab him.
I should grab him.
They give out of there.
So he put that out there and it does seem like the truce is holding.
That's what's happening at this moment, but things can change quickly.
And then he was asked on Air Force One
about his phone call with Vladimir Putin, and he said this.
You know, I'd like to see a deal with Russia.
As you know, Vladimir called me up. He said, can I help you with the rent? I said, no, I don't need help with the rent. I need help with you. And I hope we're going to be getting a deal done with Russia.
So he says that Vladimir Putin said, can I help you with the Iran situation, Mr. President?
And he says, no, but I need help with you.
All right. So Iran regime change. What's going to happen there?
We're going to, we're going to move in. We always seem to move in when this
happens. Well, you know, you know what it is, mate, as we hinted at before,
now that they're starting to say, not all of the materials were here, stuff was
moved. There's gonna, there's, there's going to be a militia group that lets a
bomb go. So I still think once the wheels of motion get going,
it's very hard for them to not follow through
and get the mullahs out of there,
which will probably mean a prolonged war
over many, many years.
But I was astounded at how many people,
Democrats, like the establishment of America are for this. Who is I will say this all like I'm more conservative than I say
So it feels like the world right now. We got Netanyahu. We got Putin. We got we got Trump
We got the ayatollah we it feels like we've got like fucking
Five or fucking ten really old men old old cunts who aren't gonna be around
Bickering with each
other for monetary reasons for the most part, right?
For the most part.
It's, you know what it is?
It's five old uncles who are threatening Christmas every year.
That's what happened.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm not talking to that one.
He can fuck off.
It's like, it's like, all the nephews and nieces are like, if we could just get
the five old cunts out of here, we could have a good Christmas.
My father, my uncle Brian, they get along great now as old men, but as men when they
were my age, because one voted liberal, one voted Labour, right?
They used to fucking go politics at each other and not talk.
And me and the cousins were always like, I remember leaving one Christmas when my dad
told Brian to fuck off and I thought we left.
And I remember looking at my cousin like, it might be a few when my dad told Brian to fuck off and I thought we left and I
remember looking at my cousin like, might be a few years,
mate, might be a few years. Now we're the children in the
whole situation. The the the war will be hugely unpopular in
America. The war in Afghanistan was already hugely unpopular
over here. And then they found nothing. How do they sell it to
the American people?
By an attack, some kind of terror attack which so you think we need a
9-eleven a Pearl Harbor something to happen to us where we're on board
Let's go Iran in the same way that music on Tonkin the music concert in Israel really set the the dominoes
Because people don't want to send you know, it's all well and good for these people on Fox News, which is the brain rot of the boomer, a conservative parent who just watched their all day where it's like we have to go regime change.
We need this is vital to the interests of America.
It's like it isn't drive around the country.
It looks like it's been hit by a bomb.
There's homeless people everywhere.
The cities are in states of decay.
The infrastructure is crumbling.
You know, you could do with a mega infrastructure package here instead of bombs to fucking tear down the Persian Gulf. Like, and it amazes me how
many poor people in this fucking country are gonna have to send their kids up again to go and die.
For what? What are we giving? And this is what this is how you know they'll be gearing up for war
is when you listen to church going Republicans from the South saying things like, but women's rights over there.
It's like, Oh,
Oh yeah.
You give a fuck about women's rights.
There's young girls who deserve algebra.
Yeah.
You know, what's the algebra is not even a thing.
It's like guys, you, you don't want girls and women in this country to have
access to a lot of healthcare or abortion. So you are quite a theocracy yourself.
You're not going to get any argument from me on the whole thing.
I'm a big fan of women's rights.
People don't know that about me, I'm a feminist though.
It is funny how quickly people just don't learn.
Like I was watching last night with my daughter.
It's taken me years not to learn.
So it hasn't been quick over here. It's hard.
To not soak in what we learned from Iraq.
Oh, OK. You would because you would have been.
But then again, because I said, how dumb is our generation
that we saw what happened with Iraq and Libya and Yemen?
And then you go, well, hold on.
There was also World War One and World War Two.
And it seems like that's how it comes in twos.
Okay. So everyone always goes, oh, we're about to start World War Three.
I believe we've started.
I mean, this would be World War Four, really, wouldn't it?
Because you'd say the Cold War is number three and this is-
No, the Cold War never had any bullets.
You got to have deaths and stuff, right?
That was proxied deaths.
Yeah, but not in mass numbers.
But in the same way, though, this is just a proxy in the end as well, because Russia will
be involved.
You know what I like most about what's going on in Iran?
It's brought us closer together.
You're coming over to my side.
How many Trump supporters do you think are disappointed by this?
Or do you think his base...
I haven't read what's his popularity at the moment.
What's his base? Well, I haven't read what's his popularity at the moment. What's his popularity?
Well, I know the popular, this is the thing I think on mass, the popularity
is actually good because you scare people enough.
You talk about, you know, and listen, Iran's always been hated here.
They talk constantly about death to America and they're the great Satan.
So, you know, they're a terrible regime, no doubt about it, but I've never
holidayed there, I've never said the whole place looks like a beach.
Well, that being said, I did see some footage today before they, uh, the
Tomahawk missiles went and they went past the mountain.
I went on if you can ski there.
All right.
So Donald Trump's approval rating has hit a new low in the latest economist.
Uh, poll, uh, which that's going to happen at the, uh, he, they like his performance.
Oh, yeah, there you are.
This is, uh, 14% underwater with 40% approval and 54% disapproval.
So that's not good for you.
But of course the mega movement has people that look at him like, uh, he's Jesus Christ.
And you got, you know, one of the things that pissed me off, like I don't mind that he's a buffoon because you can't change who people are.
Right.
And if he thinks he's doing, he obviously thinks he's doing the right thing
because no one tries to get people killed or anything like that.
Right.
But the fact that can't has to do it in a Maga hat just shows that he, he
tried to make it diverse, a diverse, a diversity for even people at home.
He tried to make it diverse a diverse
Diversive for even people at home. These are moments when you order
Missile strike when you order to see young soldiers go and die which they didn't but that's the next step, right? When you order people around they're trying to make it a bipartisan thing. Why did you fucking wear the
But you know, where's the hat? He wears the hat all. My least, the least of my concern was his hat, to be honest with you.
Yeah, but I think it's shit stirring.
The hat shit stirring.
I mean, the hat shit stirring.
You've already won the election.
You're in.
He always wears the hat.
Listen, the only hat that was responsible for the bombing was the little hats.
Let's edit that out.
Oh, yeah.
You're going to go, my hat, my Gandhi.
No, no, like, like to go, Mahatma Gandhi.
No, no, like, like, okay.
So he has, he has, he's like, okay, if we saw Metallica and they were walking around in Metallica hats, we'd be like, what's going on with Metallica?
Yeah, he loves his own merch. Yeah.
Yeah, he's wearing his own merch. He's wearing the number 45 on the side of his head like anyway he's about to start world war three and
you're like in his own hat what a camp I never wear you don't see at least he
doesn't dress up I hate me sitting around in April 18th t-shirt right
fucking yeah I wear it you know if to sleep in or around the house.
I don't leave the house with it.
I don't wear a Jim Jeffries t-shirt or hat or anything like that.
The fact that Cunt was wearing his own merchandise means that he was really
impressed with his work that day.
He wanted that to be the photograph when people look back in history from the
wall room.
But it's, I think it's probably better doing that than when you see like Joe Biden dressed
in like a bomber jacket, like he's gonna fly the planes, you know, when they put him in
the military suits.
I wear bomber jackets.
A bomber jacket looks cool, man.
A pair of aviators in a bomber jacket, you don't look much better in life than that.
That's as good as it looks.
Like he's just turning up another day at the office.
You like an orange fat fuck and a red hat with a long fucking tie.
That's your bag.
And you think that looks cool.
I just said he's being himself.
Okay.
He didn't dress up for battle, but yeah, of course there's going to be a day.
This is, this is the schism.
They run another election tomorrow.
Who do you vote for?
I don't vote.
I've given you citizenship.
No, I don't. I don't anymore. I could do that. I. I could say this for a lot of people like myself. This is probably a black pill moment and we've gone.
Okay, we've made the we've made the best of the of what we think are the worst options.
And many of us went, okay, well, Donald Trump, he's fighting against what we would describe
as permanent Washington.
And we saw what happened with Barack Obama.
So on the left wing, Barack Obama broke our heart.
Okay because he got into power and the first thing he did was bailout Wall Street even though Wall Street speculators completely collapse the economy and plunged this into the economic despair that gave birth to Donald Trump.
Okay we're talking about right now. No, no, no. I'm giving you my, I'm giving you what I'm calling two
black pill moments for left and right.
Okay. So Barack Obama broke a lot of people's hearts and left.
He was, he was the drone in chief guy.
He bailed out Wall Street drone and chief guy.
Okay.
Carry on.
Okay.
And he bailed out Wall Street, which is the big one.
And that was, I remember when he was coming in, it was all about hope.
And then it was austerity and he gave, you know, he gave the money to the bankers
to give themselves bonuses, dude,
while the rest of the country was being foreclosed on.
So that was it for him.
A lot of young lefties hated him
and that's why Bernie became the option.
Now, for a lot of people who went to the right wing,
and you saw a lot of young people went right, they went,
well, you know, the Democrat party is bought and paid for their
shields for big business. They're elitist. They're in bed with the weapons companies.
And Donald Trump is this outsider and everyone hates him. The military top brass hate him.
The media hate him. And we fucking hate them because our country's been run to the ground
and they keep talking about how good it is. That's why he got voted in. That's why he
got voted in. Right. So then we know why he got voted in. That's why he got voted in.
We know why he got voted in. Election tomorrow.
Election tomorrow.
No, let me just get to the end.
What I'm saying is, what I'm terrified about is, I think for a lot of people,
this might be them saying, you know what, I got played by Trump,
he leant into the right-wing populism and we ask for no regime change.
And in the end, all we got was a new war in Iran.
So maybe voting doesn't work and the deep state apparatus will always
do what it's always going to do.
And so I'm going to fucking sit this shit out and become a nihilist.
And I'm really embarrassed that I ever thought anything would get better.
So fuck them both.
And I'm out.
Right.
But if you had to vote for someone, no one, you don't have to vote here.
You're a funny boy. I'd get Hillary to come back and go, let's see what you would have done.
Yeah, I would like to see what Hillary would have done. She'd fucking stuff in her face full
of adrenal glands. At least she didn't go to war though. Look, I don't know. I do know this.
But do you recognize what I'm saying though about like a sense of nihilism washing over because I used to criticize old people and go
Why don't they care? I know I used to I did I knew that this guy was bad news. Of course. I knew it was
Humiliating yeah, so it's embarrassing to the people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, of course. fucking embarrassing. I told you, I told you this in other podcasts. We know it's bad when my father, Gary Nugent stops talking about the news.
When he says it's best not to watch it.
That's when you know, things are gone, tits up and no one wants up more than that.
Man.
No, it's important to be able to let people say, yeah, I'm embarrassed.
I got that one wrong.
Like you should encourage that.
So then you can go to the next look for what's right next.
You know, there's nothing, There's no point staying in trench.
He's not my fucking father.
You go, okay.
Well, you got that wrong.
Okay.
Let's let's let's let's talk closer to home.
The ice raids, right?
Yes.
The ice raids are going on.
We've got people going in.
Now Trump has turned it back on restaurants and farms.
Yeah, of course.
We spoke about this last week.
We didn't talk to him because businesses need the labor. Yeah, we didn't talk about the restaurants and farms. Yeah, of course. We spoke about this last week. We didn't talk about him because businesses
need the labor. Yeah, we didn't talk about the restaurants and farms. We don't turn it back yet.
We talked about ice before that. Right. Yeah. So he turned it back. Why do you think he turned it back?
Because businesses need the cheap labor because of course businesses need the cheap labor. We know
businesses need the cheap labor. I because who do you think fucking rang him up and said listen cunt I fucking gave you a lot of money
for a hundred percent sure and but like I said the
It's not a good society that relies on
Borderline slave labor because you can't pay people who actually live here because you can't afford it because the margins are so
narrow that we essentially need to give people no overtime and
Minimum wage it's fucked. It's bad. I blame the unions narrow that we essentially need to give people no overtime and minimum wage.
It's fucked.
It's bad.
I blame the unions.
You blame the unions.
I'll step aside on that one.
I I'm a union man, even though they potentially have gotten a little greedy
in some areas and the AI is going to take over the unions.
The reason why they pushed the acting business out of LA was they were asking
too much overtime and this, that and the other.
You got to have a bit of give and take in this world, but that's for another podcast.
No, I just, I just feel like, listen, I told you, I said to forest the other day, we were
hanging out and, uh, I was really angry at Donald Trump because I thought we were going
for rage and aim change.
If this is all it is, I'll feel a little bit better about it.
But I said to, I saidrest, man, these are my first
real real feelings of hatred for him and I went I feel really late to the party because
I said to Forrest, look at him he's fucking fat and orange.
Has anyone seen his hair?
Like he's dreadful stuff.
No wonder he had to wear the MAGA hat in the war room, cover up his shit hair.
Forrest just let me know if I'm reaching on old ground here, but little hands.
Oh yeah.
Are you all gonna check out SNL?
They do impersonations of him and everything.
Check out, check out like some old, like I've got some old throwback truck, like some
Alec Baldwin Trump, you stuff for you to show you.
You got to love it.
It is funny to be like the guy that today goes I don't think he's legit yeah you will walk it around this week like this you know what someone should
say to him you're fine make America great again exactly when was it great
I've become one of those people. I've become woke in 2025.
Yeah.
It was a great during the 1980s,
we trickle down economics and
everyone dying of AIDS.
Was that the thing where people were
going to prison just for having
marijuana was that when it was
great, maybe the civil war was your jam.
Did you enjoy the civil war?
But you know what's funny about
Donald Trump now is you realize, and
I've reflected on this with some of
my friends is he's greatest strength strength is that he is a wonderful,
wonderful real estate agent and a great real estate agent lets you see in the
property or in the cell what you want to see and you ignore the bad things.
If that head was on a park bench, I wouldn't sit on it.
What is,
wouldn't sit on it. What is? Yeah, it was just him. So you look, I reckon this sounds weird because he's not a great
talker in the sense he's just very entertaining man. He's been
very entertaining on TV. He's been very entertaining before
TV people were interested in wanted to interview him. There's
lots of billionaires. There's lots of property bill. He has it
whatever it is, whatever it is, he has it.
And for the most part, people vote for the person they want to be entertained by,
because we're going to be watching them on the TV the whole time.
And if you consume news, this is your guy.
Right.
But also, okay, so you look at different culture movements, right?
And so Donald Trump's also there because we can never forget
how enormous the
overreach of the woke movement and how suffocating that did get.
Yeah.
And whoever was brave enough to say a lot of this is stupid, right?
Whoever stuck their head up and said, this is insane was always going to be popular.
However, they were also going to be so viciously attacked.
And he was one of the few people that was able to do it. A lot of people in quiet would go,
this is all getting a bit weird, isn't it?
Yeah.
All right. He doesn't care.
He's like a sociopath.
So that was why he was able to garner all that pain.
Now that's over.
The culture's swinging again.
And people are like, all right, we're saying retard again.
Yeah, but you're going to swing too far in that direction. And
then it's going to go swing way back again. That's what I mean.
You need someone just to adjust ever so slightly like let's back
off 10% of this. Let's back off 10%. There's no point going, Oh,
we need no diversity anymore. That's ridiculous. But there's
there is a happy medium between all these things.
Right?
Do you think like, I know Iran right now that they're debating trans athletes.
You think that's a big thing that they're just like going, don't worry about the bombing.
To kill or not to kill?
Yeah.
Like, I don't think she can swim.
She's look at the shoulders and they call it, they call it Islam.
I like to call it theylam.
Am I right?
Them. They love.
Sorry, I'm just itching myself ferociously from a mosquito bite. Right. Can I move on to some other topics? Cause we, we, we can't just do a good name for an episode. Jack them. They love.
Right. I want to talk about a two, two, two or three quick things. I think this is a really awesome story for Ozzy.
Sure.
And it's got an American connection.
It's got an Australian connection.
This week, Captain James Cook's legendary ship that was used in the discovery of the
East coast of Australia, the Endeavour, the Endeavour, yeah, was found this week after
250 years of searching.
They have found it.
Now it should have been up in Hawaii because that's where he was killed.
Right.
So this is an amazing story.
So can I tell you the story of the HMS?
Can you, can you do it succinctly and not like how you do everything else?
No, I thought this is like an, I don't know about that.
I'll have it.
I'll have it.
I'm good at these.
Okay. So for Americans that don't know, Captain James Cook was a cartographer and
an explorer from, I think he's from Leeds and he's our main man.
Yeah. He's the, he, he was one of the great explorers of the world. And people
say, what do you mean exploring cool places? They didn't fucking know just
because someone else was already there. It doesn't mean that you can't explore it.
I went and explored Italy for the first time a few years
ago. So like like okay so he was one of the great experts. It was an olive garden but
anyway. Between 1768 and 1771 the ship became the first European vessel to reach
Eastern Australia and then after he had gone on his many journeys,
we know he was he was he was killed in what I in Hawaii. He was killed by natives. But the ship
itself was sold. And get this one. It was renamed the Lord sandwich. I was that that that the Earl
of sandwich that guy who was like, do you want some core beef?
And he's like, I've got an idea.
Just wait here during a poker game.
Cause he didn't want the beef all over his head.
So he got two bits of bread and everyone was like, the Earl of sandwich.
Yeah.
The Earl of sandwich.
That must've been the best time to invent shit in the, all of history with the fact
that everyone was so excited by a guy going, I don't like this slimy beef on my hands.
Maybe give me a bit of bread.
And people were like, ah, fucking the Earl of sandwich.
Then imagine the bloke who just had a
edible napkin.
Yeah.
A bloke with a real long toothpick.
And he's like, you could put tubes of meat on this.
What's, what's that Dennis kebab?
Kebab? I just said. That's Duke of Kebab. That's Duke of Kebab.
Yes, well Lord Sandwich was honoured with this ship.
So my friend here, David Lazania, was having an orgy with layers and layers and layers of people.
Layers of whores.
And cheesy sort of like chlamydia
like gunk in between and that's where we came up with it. Anyway, carry on.
Yes, so the ship is named the Lord Sandwich and then whoever owned it tried to get it
involved in the American War of Independence on the British side. Oh!
Okay, so it was going to be sent over there.
Now they said it wasn't up to scratch.
It was a hunk of shit essentially.
Yeah.
And so they did a reno on it and they ended up calling it Lord sandwich to
Lord sandwich to this time.
It's personal.
Even more beef.
Even me, even more beef. Uh, the tagline was I. Even more beef. Yeah. Even maybe more beef.
Uh, the tagline was I'll have it on a roll.
Who's your hero?
Well, the Lord sandwich was the hero because it went up for the fight against
the Americans for the English and the boat was scuttled in the Rhode Island
Harbor as a way to stop Americans getting things in and out.
And so that's where the boat had originally died was in Rhode Island,
Newport Harbor.
First of all, let's just say this for a boat that they went is not up to scratch.
It had gone from England down to Australia up into the all through all the
Pacific islands. And I'm sure numerous other places that's more than a fucking cruise ship
can do now without having all the toilets block up. Like that's pretty impressive stuff
that it ended up in Long Island. Everyone's like, not good enough. Name it sandwich.
Okay. So this is how, this is how, this is how it ends.
You ready?
Hold on.
So it was storing a lot of coal and whatnot.
See if you can look up.
That is, is that, is that, is that as
the end of it?
Okay.
Carry on.
It was involved in a coal trade and you
couldn't burn it to create energy.
Right.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah.
Uh, endeavor, okay.
Endeavor sold off to shipping company, Mather and co.
Yes.
But before we made the lawn, savages 70, 75, but it pulled over and then it was
like one of those carnival cruises had slides up the top of it and slides and a
little stage area and a pool for circus lay like activities.
And now it's just been sitting under there and they have not been able to find it before this week,
finally being able to confirm that it was in Rhode Island, Newport Harbor, the Endeavour.
Can we send down four billionaires to have a look at it?
Don't think it's deep enough for their heads to explode.
You think Jeff Bezos is interested in the history of Australia?
Hank? No. We're doing a podcast. If you hit that button.
What's that?
We got a new pinball machine in the house. So the good people at Stern Pinball have given
me a King Kong machine that's actually in the house. And Hank's just walked in the house
and he's walked up to it like, I might just play this. And I've told him off. He's like,
I'm just looking, dad. I'm not, I'm not up to it like, I might just play this. And then I've told him off. He's like, I'm just looking at him.
Like, I'm not up to no good.
Yeah.
He's up to no good.
I'm so what's the idea?
So they found it.
And they said they found it.
They're going to go down there and ransack it.
They're going to go check out what's in there.
You should give it a Google.
Tell me what you think of the roommate.
That doesn't look to be much left.
It wouldn't be a huge, it looks like a to be much left. It wouldn't be a huge.
It looks like a fucking sack of shit.
It wouldn't be a huge boat, would it?
It would be a huge boat.
No, it's not enormous, but I think the Brits are going to try and get it back.
Surely because Australia would say no.
I think our left wing would be like he killed 20 years ago.
And that isn't like 20 years ago.
We would we would build a museum
around the fucking thing. We would, we would, we would bring it, we would ship it over.
There'd be parades of people. We would, we would put it down the main street of Sydney
and then we would have a museum at the end, probably in Canberra, where we would build
around it and go the Endeavour, the founding boat of this country. And you know, pretty impressive.
Like, like that would be the first ship that an Aboriginal ever saw. Aboriginals would have seen
that. That's, that's the equivalent of a UFO. Right, that was, yeah, that was a SpaceX thing on Mars.
It's the equivalent of us seeing a UFO, them seeing a boat coming in, must have blown their
mind. And then just so they look even
more like aliens, they don't step off the boat as just a whole lot of white fellows. There are a whole
lot of white fellows in horsehair wigs. That's got to throw you off, right? That's when you,
that's when you got to think with Nickerbocker socking. Yeah. Nickerbocker sock is like this.
And then just kill the first one to send a message please. Right?
When they first walked off, they wouldn't have been like, they didn't come in peace.
They didn't walk off like this.
Hello, hello aboriginals.
I think, I don't think Captain Cook was even, um.
That was his nickname.
His real name was Anderson.
It was just after the horrible things he did.
I think he was quite a, I think he was like not a violent, he was not a violent man at
all. He just liked to draw things and look at the plants.
Yeah, he had a botanist there.
He actually landed in Sydney Harbour in a place called Botany Bay and it's named Botany Bay
because of all the new plants that he saw, all the different species of plants that he had never seen.
And the botanists were having a field day, hence the name Botany Bay.
And that's where they all came in.
Yeah.
So he also, he came off.
So he did, his drawings were so accurate.
I think it was up until the 1980s.
His map of Australia was often used.
Which is pretty sick.
His drawings were so accurate that if he covered the Diddy trial, you
think you were really there.
Okay.
Here's his notes on the indigenous.
You ready?
Yeah.
Captain Cook noted of their apparent happiness
and contentment, contrasting it with the perceived anxieties
of annoying people he would meet in Europe.
He acknowledged their peaceful way of life
and lack of social hierarchies.
Because they didn't have the internet.
They didn't have the internet, so much easier.
He ended up writing this, and Jim,
that's a good segue to what I want to end on today.
Writing that quote,
they live in a tranquility,
which is not disturbed by the inequality of condition.
With such resourcefulness, utilizing natural resources,
such as muscles and fires in this remote area.
So-
They're all delightful except for one bloke
who is a complete cunt.
There seem to be cunts in all society.
Like in every group, if you look at people in the eye,
you'll find kindness, you'll find good,
but there'll always be a complete cunt.
So I speared him.
Yes, I speared him.
Why not get away with it? I put a cutlass to his throat.
Yes.
I mean, that's colonization.
It's pretty grim, but gave us a strain, and I'm not against it.
I'm still of the opinion that it's...
In modern day Australia, you can't scrape it.
You can't put it under the rug and say that it never happened,
and all that type of stuff.
It's still something that should be historically in the museums and stuff like that. I think if you
push it away, it's not the same as I know that like you don't have statues of Hitler and stuff
like that, but that's a different fucking thing. Do you think if we got the remains of Endeavour,
we could gift it to the indigenous and they could use it as a rage room? Can't I have just a little
bit like when they tear down
Yankee Stadium and you can buy a little bit of the stadium.
Can't I get a little bit of Endeavor
just to give us gifts?
As a part of reconciliation, we put Endeavor back together
and we bring it in and indigenous people can
just beat the shit out of it like an old wreck car
that you have at a fair, you know, to get anger out.
Or we make it into housing. Okay I've got I've got a thing to link to
because it's about what you said about porn okay you've seen this no I have
seen porn okay so I want to circle back to something you just said before do you
remember the natives who got SpaceX so they just jerked off all day and their entire community fell apart?
Who got SpaceX?
Who got the internet?
So they got, uh, what's his internet called?
So there's a bunch of natives who just got the internet.
Starlink.
Starlink.
Yes.
They got given Starlink.
Right.
Who are these natives who got given Starlink?
They were an Amazon tribe that were given Starlink.
Yeah.
Okay. And, you know, let's get this out. Amazon tribe sues New York Times over story it says
led to porn addiction. An Amazonian tribe has sued the New York Times over a report
about the community gaining access to high speed internet, which it claims led its members
being labeled as porn addicts.
The defamation lawsuit said the US newspapers report portrayed the Marubo tribe as unable
to handle basic exposure to the internet and highlighted allegations that their youth had
become consumed entirely by pornography.
I got to give it up to a man.
My father has still not been able to get into the internet to find porn and these people
are living in the fucking Amazon.
They figured it out in a week.
So you know, you've got to give it up to the ingenuity of the people.
It was hard for them because they didn't start off on magazines.
You know, they didn't first go have a sports illustrated and have a flog to that.
They were someone should have just dropped off a Sears catalog from back of the day,
the underwear segment, and then just sort of left and said, see how you feel after that.
And then, and then
Here's American Pie.
There's a really hot scene where she's
Yeah, we don't need, yeah.
So show the movie Zapped with Scott Baio or a little bit of weird sides.
Porkies, a couple of years time, you're not ready for Porkies, right?
You're not ready for Porkies.
Revenge of the Nerds, all these films,
it just had tits at about the three quarter mark of the film.
Or even just a calculator where you can write boobs on it first.
Yeah, but in their language, whatever their language is.
So the Marubo tribe have now sued, it's 2,000 people,
they're suing $180 million.
What do they care about money for?
Now they've found out about money? Well, the internet is... The sky for being a tribe,. What do they care about money for now? They've found out about money.
Well, the internet is a tribe now.
They're finding out money.
They've gone from a remote tribe to porn addicts to suing the New York
times to essentially, can you imagine?
We were talking about the aboriginals looking at captain cook.
Can you imagine a tribe like that with all the women walking around
topless and then all of a sudden you see a big ass pair of fake titties.
And you're just like, there must be different gravity on their country.
There must be at this point, a Marubo tribe, Andrew Tate, who
teaches the young men how to get pussy from other tribes.
First, you've got to get the sports car.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I look, you don't want to go to a country where you're like, so how's your
day being Bonnie blue? You know what I mean?
Dude, Bonnie blue goes to this tribe and live streams at gangbang.
You know what's good? If Bonnie blue goes to the tribe and puts the email out and says,
whoever wants to come do me, I'll be at number four, right?
And she does that.
Um, look, it'll be a faster day than those poor and adult bloody British
fellows and Australian guys.
There'll be no blue pills and everyone will be done in seconds.
You'll get through the 1,057 very quickly.
It wouldn't be the first time that a British person spread disease to natives.
There wouldn't be a dry cock in the house.
Bonnie Blue meets the Maru Boo. That's what the video would be called.
Well on that note, I'd like to say it is when watching the snake, because we have a guest for us right now.
We have our mate Brian here. Brian is from the snake.
He was sadly eliminated on this episode.
We'll talk about that a little bit more.
Brian is an ex-con as he's referred to.
See, often throughout the show,
I don't know if you know this Brian,
but I always, you would have noticed this Brian.
I had to refer to you all as your occupations
all the time, right?
I had to go Derek the all as your occupations all the time, right? I had to go Derek, the detective, Cody, the cowboy, Alyssa, the only fans model and Brian, the
ex con, but you're more than that. You're a Jill thief, which is a lot more exciting
than ex con.
I agree. I remember in this last episode while I was down to the director yelled out, Hey,
ex con, we moved to the left and you were, you were like, his name's Brian.
The guy has a name, you know, appreciate that.
Jim, I really do.
When they, when they all stand in the pit, it was very hard to space them for the
camera panning around to see their face.
But I used to think, what a bunch of kerfuffle.
This is like, like you guys, you stand backwards, you stand forward, you turn to
the side now that I've watched the episodes because, okay, so let's cut to the end. We'll go back to the beginning,
but let's cut to the end. Uh, Catherine, you thought she was going to save you, right? We've
had Catherine on the podcast before. Catherine even said to you at the beginning of the episode,
if my father dies, I'm going to have Brian walk me down the aisle. In an earlier episode,
she said, my whole family are ex felons. How are you? Right. Uh, what's your opinion on Katherine
now? Well, what, what you didn't see is, is as we were walking back from that first challenge,
I was the first one to go up to her and say, you're full of shit. You are absolutely full of shit. I,
I read her the second, the second she tried to give me that medallion, I said,
this girl's playing a game here.
So I said that to her, we laughed a little bit, but, um, from there, it was
just, we bonded, but I never trusted that girl.
Okay.
She was playing all ends against the middle.
I don't know how she was the only contestant who was allowed to have a phone.
All the rest of you had your phones taken off. Every time they cut back together, she's like,
step number 46, punch homeless people in the face. Like, like, so that must have been before they
went, that must have been her initial interview where she got to actually have the phone,
lots of stuff. I'm not meant to have favorites. But my wife thinks it's hilarious that I very
clearly have favorites on the show. You can see I'm very warm to have favorites, but my wife thinks it's hilarious that I very clearly have favorites on the show.
You can see I'm very warm to Jack throughout the whole thing, right?
But you're also one of my faves, Brian. I always liked having you around.
Even though every time I looked at you, you always said to me, I'm going to steal your watch.
You just doubt that.
I was. I was going to steal it. I love that watch. Look at that.
Oh, it's a different one.
But it's a different one.
Lucky bastard to have more than one.
All I have is this one.
This is the last thing I stole.
What is it?
What is it?
It's a Rolex.
It's a Datejust.
Oh, well, a stolen Rolex is as good as any.
Uh, do you find it weird that you, you constantly kept on telling Derek, the
detective about your crimes on this last episode, you say, you say, I, um, my last heist was half a million
dollars and you didn't get caught for that one.
Like, or you did get caught for that one.
I only went away for one of the 22 robberies that I did.
Why do you tell us about the other 21 more but robberies then?
Because the statute of limitations is over.
Massachusetts does not have any, they can't come and get me for it.
The statute of limitations for that ends 10 years after I did it.
All right.
So you're good to go.
So there could be another 22 crimes that you've committed in the last 10 years you're not
telling us about that we'll find out in 10 years time.
Staying tight lipped over those.
Now quickly before we go on about the show,
I have started following you on social media.
Are you a stand up comic now, Brian?
I dabble, man.
I dabble.
I've always been a huge fan of yours.
As soon as it came out, I was very, very excited to see that.
Because as a fan, I study it.
And yeah, I do get up on stage a little bit.
I got a show because of the show.
I got a show here in Texas at the comedy arena, July 5th.
I'm really excited about I do it a little different. I'll come out and I'll tell five minutes to seven minutes of my story.
And then I have an improv to come out and improv off of what they heard. So it ends up being a really cool show.
We got Gilly back. Can you hear us all right?
So it started off as Jewel thief. I'm hearing geek thief. He's become a stand up comedian. He's become a stand up. He's
a jill. He's got to look at least he's got a story to tell. How many hipster cunts do
you have? Get up there and just talk to you about fucking working at whole foods. Let's
have a stuff. I'd rather hear a dual thief than most of the fuckers. gonna do? Me and my girlfriend. We struggled sharing the apartment.
Ah, for fuck's sake!
Now you're back, you're back,
for fuck's sake, works!
I'm shooting the video off and just do audio.
Maybe that will help.
So Brian, on the scale of
stealing rings from the beach while someone swims
and being a jewel thief
lowering yourself from the ceiling in the loo
what were the scale of your crimes and your best ever snatch?
I'd have to say somewhere right in the middle. I was a solid C student.
So we were just hitting stores or we were hitting traveling salesmen.
So the landscape at the time where guys would, there were no chain jewelry stores back then.
It was just mom and pop stores and guys would drive around with their entire inventory in their car. They'd almost be driving like armored
cars. So I remember for one of the robberies, we had to subdue the guy in a fake store.
We actually just opened a store that we said, Hey, we're going to, yeah, entire fake setup.
We gave the landlord cash with a fake ID and we said, we're gonna open this jewelry store.
This guy came in thinking he was gonna
furnish our entire store.
We had cases up at the front that were empty
and he walked in and we ended up duct taping him to a chair
and going out to his car and taking all of his shit.
And it was, he had three locks on the back quarter panel
of his car and only one of them opened the trunk.
The other two set off an alarm
and then inside it was chained and padlocked so that the trunk didn't open all the way
open so you needed a key for that. So we had to talk to this guy and get him to tell us
exactly how to get into the car. So you know there were things like that but we were really
efficient when we were just going into a store to clean it out.
Brian, Brian can I ask if there's an oceans 11?
I don't know how many of you were, but did you, did you ever say the phrase,
it's just one last job?
And then you put together a team of every job.
Every job was one last job.
My dad, this was with my dad and my dad.
I'm the same way about sucking cocks and alleyways.
The last one. This'll be the last one. Every job. And my dad, I'm the same way about sucking cocks and alleyways.
Last one.
This'll be the last one.
Every job.
I'm the wheel man. I take him to the alley and then I drive him away.
All right.
We were not going to labor on your, like I had a friend who came over to show and
he said, why does everyone else get an occupation and he doesn't get an occupation.
He gets ex-con.
So we're not going to labor on your business.
Although, while you're away, Gilly, he showed me the Rolex he's wearing is from his last job.
So, OK, so you who did you bond with in the house?
Who did you like? Who didn't you like?
Everyone seemed to me to be a pretty decent human being.
Yeah, they were all pretty great.
It was, you know, once once the house was divided from dinner crew to trauma
crew, that's what we called ourselves.
The people that did the first challenge who are trauma crew.
Then there was the bro crew, which was Jack, Devante and Brett.
Yeah.
I would try, I tried really hard to bond with Brett because I hated him.
I hated that guy.
Um, he's just tall and beautiful abs for days.
Um, I was just all set with him, but I had to,
he, he's the great to your raisin.
Is that what you're saying?
A hundred percent, man.
I'm shriveling up over here and he's got apps all day.
Uh, I, I used to love how he always used to have like a button.
I remember once saying I was as lost as one of Brett's top buttons.
You know what I mean?
Like, like I couldn't, you know, look like they have it hanging down there.
And also the, the, the, the chest waxing was the man just waxing his chest every
day.
He had to be, he had, I, I never saw it.
If I did, I would have been deeply disturbed, probably more than drinking
that drink.
What was, uh, okay.
So, so we have on this episode, you had cockroaches poured
on your head. You did not win the round. Uh, refresh my mind. Who were you paired with
again? I was with Frankie who bailed. Like I had to tell Frankie before we got in the
box that, you know, just get in the box and put the roaches on you and stay as long as
you can. Cause he was saying that he wasn't even getting in the box. Yeah. Right. Right.
Cause you got to go make a good showing of it. Cause one of the problems with it is you
won't get saved. If you look like you've been good showing of it. Cause one of the problems with it is you won't get saved if you look like you've been a bit
of a pussy in one of the, one of the actual tasks.
Right.
And I wanted to win this man.
A double snake.
I wanted to win.
And I somehow think that's what, cause Cody was a double headed snake.
We lost two players, you and Cody, the cowboy.
I think Cody, the cowboy, I think you went home because you trusted Catherine. And I think Cody went home because he jumped out of that box too quickly.
And everyone was like, if that guy, he's meant to be a tough bloke who rides on
top of balls and now he can't handle a few cockroaches.
Right.
Would you say that's a fair, fair assumption or?
Well, he murdered half of them too when they came up because they were like,
don't come straight up.
Always duck your head under the way you came in. And he came
straight up and he must've killed about a thousand cockroaches. Well, yeah, because there was a bloke
who was in charge of cockroaches and there was like an animal humane person there who makes sure
that we're not being mean to the cockroaches. As a person from Australia, you can never be too mean
to a cockroach. I'm an animal lover, but insects, different animal altogether. That's the extreme
wing of veganism right there. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. If you're a vegan who won't... That's Buddhism,
that's Buddhism to be honest with you. Yeah, yeah, that's ridiculous. So you went in, how bad was the
cockroaches? Because from Christine's point of view, it was the most horrible experience that anyone
could ever have done. I watched the footage. Have you seen the episode yet? I haven't. I'm gonna watch it tonight.
Man, she screams and she cries
and I'm just wandering around.
Who wants this more?
Who wants it like this?
I remember looking at her in the episode thinking
she's not handling this very well.
How bad was it?
Did you see me checking her skirt at the end?
She wanted me to look down her skirt when she got on the box to make sure there were no cockroaches like in her underwear.
When you go upwards, I thought they'd be an upwards, who goes downwards?
She was in such a panic that I was like, okay, I'll look. It was pretty awful that you know, you can feel their legs crawling on you. It's really, really uncomfortable. But I could have survived it to get through the puzzle. It's survivable. But it's really disturbing to feel all of those legs crawling on your face. Now when
falling underneath the goggles, it was it was it wasn't fun.
So you get out so Pastor Jacob wins Pastor Jacob wins he wins it with McLean McLean's been in the bottom to Pastor Jacob got through by the skin of his teeth the episode before Pastor Jacob wins. Pastor Jacob wins. He wins it with McLean. McLean's been in the bottom too. Pastor Jacob got through by the skin of his teeth the episode before. Pastor Jacob
was dead for like, for all extensive purposes, he was out of the game. People, people, he'd
everyone in the house turned on him. Then he tries this whole new pack thing. Were you
spoken to about the new pact that he was trying to do? You feel like you were excluded from that and just riding on Catherine a bit?
No, I was going after Pastor Jacob. I was hoping that after he became Snake, he would pick me because I was the only one in the house that gave that guy a chance. I was, I sat him down and I said, I don't understand why the house hates you. Can you explain this to me? He wasn't a bad guy. I don't think he was plotting evilly against people. I had multiple conversations with that guy And then I got pissed when he became the snake and he wasn't even looking toward saving me
And we had a little confrontation in the house. Oh really? What was that a bit like? What did what happened?
I just said that I was pissed that he was gonna continue to keep the house divided the way that it was like he's a pastor
He's supposed to bring everybody together and I thought that he would do something very different than just keep the status quo.
Right.
So you're telling me that religion has made people divided.
Yeah.
Well, where, where, where this never happened throughout history.
No, it really hasn't.
All right.
So we got, we got Cody, Cody, the cowboy, Cole, Cole speaks like this and the thing
thing.
So Cody got very fond of Christine, right?
Got very fond of Christine.
Cody gets kicked out.
The last thing he says on tonight's episode is, I think she'll call me.
I think she'll slip into my slip into his DMs or call him or so.
I think she'll get in contact with me.
Right.
Um, I have you stayed in touch with the other contestants?
I have everybody. Um, do we know if, if, uh, Cody and Chris, if Christine reached out to Cody?
I don't think so. I don't think it's happened.
It could be bullshit, Jim, because I ran into Jack at the comedy mothership. He was watching my show
and he told me that there's a lot of inside gossip. Who's rooting who,
but he's not allowed to say. We'll get more ratings if we want to have Jack back on if he knows that
type of information. Seriously. All right. So we got Cody, Christine. So when did you know during
the saving ceremony that you were cooked? It was when the last four were down there. I wasn't sure who the pastor was
going to say, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't me.
And I knew McLean wasn't going to say me because every single time I tried to
have a conversation with McLean, something came out of my mouth.
Like she's just so just vanilla virgin ass.
She's never heard a bad word in her life or that's how she kind of acted.
And every single time I said, you know, uh,
the thing I learned most about prison was it turns out I'm not a top. Uh, she, she would just freak
out about that. She's just like, Oh my God, if you think about that, I talked to you, something
weird comes out of your mouth. So she kind of stopped. So I knew in her defense, you did go
into great deal detail about what a bottom is. I did, I did. I was like, she was like, you don't want to be like a like a
bunk, like in the bunk.
You bought a bunk?
Did you enjoy being on the snake?
Would you do it again?
Any regrets?
I would absolutely do it again.
I think when I came back a week after my fiance asked me if I
would do it again, and it was a hard no.
And then, you know, you watch the show and you get that little bit of fame and I would absolutely do it again. And it was a hard no. And then you know, you watch the show and you get that little bit of fame and I would
absolutely do it again. I'm addicted to it a little bit.
Yeah, and you came across pretty good. You came across some people
came across better than others you came. I'll tell you, my son
and he hasn't watched the episode because this is like
family viewing. Now we sit down on a Tuesday night and we all
watch the snake. So I've got the inside gossip and my son's two favorite people on the show Brian and Cody my 12 year old boy
Brian and Cody Brian and Cody so tonight he's gonna be very disappointed.
Tell him I'm sorry but I'll sign something for him if he wants. All right. Yeah. Non-disclosure or, or, or, uh, what's those ones when they're the prison?
I forgotten.
Doesn't matter.
Anyway, Brian, it was a joy to have you on.
And, uh, I give this challenge to everyone who comes Jim's alarm code for
his house is four, six, seven, four, two.
I'm going to wear it on this wrist. And Brian, before we go on a personal night, mate, I really hope we the I already have a Blake who opens for me and he's younger than me. I have to wait for one of them to die. It's one of those jobs.
Well, I can make that happen to all costs and guys.
Thanks, Brian.
Well, I think we just end the podcast there.
I think we've had a good little chat.
What did we cover in this podcast?
We talked about Iran, you ran, we all ran.
Uh, we had a go at captain cook.
Who?
Yeah.
Who is it?
Who is a good man?
To be honest, for each other, a good man, good man to be honest for a good man a
cartographer a botanist a well he was an explorer he was exploring everything
everything boat boat owner you can say that you know what like you reckon right
now a fucking Captain Cook's in his grave making jokes with other ghosts like
this going the best day in your life is when you buy your boat.
Your second best day is when you find it in the bottom of a harbor in Long Island.
Anyway, the second best day is when you fuck a few natives on it in Fiji.
Whoo, don't show them porn.
Oh, I think they think you're ugly when you're naked.
Then they get to adjust it.