I Don't Know About That - ATM: Episode 19 - Diddy or Diddyn't He Do It?

Episode Date: July 9, 2025

At this moment Jim and Amos discuss the Diddy trial, Jim's love for Oasis, a woman attempting to kill her family with poisoned mushrooms, and which toilets are best around the world. Also, Alyssa from... the Snake joins the podcast to talk about the most recent episode!   Watch THE SNAKE on FOX every Tuesday at 9pm ET/8pm CT and available the next day on Hulu.   SOCIALS: Jim Jefferies Website: https://www.jimjefferies.com IG: https://www.instagram.com/jimjefferies FB: https://www.facebook.com/JimJefferies Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimjefferies Amos Gill IG: @abitofamosgill FB: https://www.facebook.com/AmosGillComedy/ Theme Song: "Rein It In Cowboy" by the Doohickeys

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello everybody. Welcome to At This Moment with Jim Jefferies and me, Amos Gill. We've got a big episode today talking about the Mushroom Murders, the big Australian court case of the ages. Jeffrey Epstein. There is that one too. And P Diddy. It's a dark episode really.
Starting point is 00:00:19 And, but we finished it off with a lovely chat by the lovely Alyssa from the snake. Uh, but before we do that, let's plug some shows we've got coming up. Yes. I need people to come to Chicago. I'm in Chicago this weekend at Zanies in the downtown on Sunday, the 13th and at the Rosemont Zanies on the 11th and 12th. I'd love to see you guys there. Get around me, Chicago people.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Coming up July 25th and July 26th in, uh, I will be in Maui on July 25th and July 26th. I'll be in Honolulu. One of those shows is almost sold out. I can't remember which one. So come along to see those shows and then starting August 29th in Portugal, you'll see me in Portugal, Spain, Greece, Cyprus, France, United Kingdom, United Kingdom, uh, Denmark, Austria, Croatia, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, uh, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Estonia back in the United Kingdom. And then I come home and then I go to Istanbul, Saudi Arabia, Poland,
Starting point is 00:01:22 New Zealand in February. I got fucking tons of shit going on. But come and see the tour. Amos is going to be traveling around Europe with me. I'll tell you what, we'll make a promotion for if you mentioned the podcast, when you're at the gig, you- Make them great, make them great.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Yeah, sure, sure. If- You meet me, and you can greet you. Yeah, yeah, you can meet. If you mentioned to the security that you were, you listed the podcast, you get to meet Amos, you'll come out and say, I'll bring one of Jim's t-shirts. You can sniff. You can say, you got close.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Hey, before we start, I just wanted to say it was the 4th of July over the weekend and, uh, what is America to you, Jim? America is my home that I've adopted. Although I still call Australia home. That's the original place, you know, but America is the place that's given me lots of opportunities and more importantly, I met my lovely wife here and I have my lovely American kids. So America's wonderful.
Starting point is 00:02:25 What, what do you have to say positive about America? I love America. That's why I'm wearing this beautiful quince American and you can buy any quince product. This is our only sponsor. Jim, that's why I'm wearing this beautiful. Aren't they? We're not technically sponsored.
Starting point is 00:02:41 They want to listen to this podcast. But no, you know, I was thinking about this. I was in Michigan city, Indiana for the 4th of July, watching the fireworks. I was with my girlfriend's mother's family. There's about 85 of them Irish Catholics. And we were involved in a 4th of July golf cart parade. And we had a wonderful day.
Starting point is 00:03:02 And I was thinking about America. And I enjoyed it a lot more this time. And you know what I've realised? I've stopped fighting wanting America to be Australia or Europe and I've started to enjoy America for what it is. America is a country where you build a home in an isolated, suburban or regional area and you never leave it. You give up on the idea of al fresco dining and walking in busy shopping malls and you never leave it. You give up on the idea of alfresco dining and walking in busy shopping malls,
Starting point is 00:03:27 and you stay at home and you order Amazon packages to your castle, and you don't really see anyone ever again. And you get comfortable in the luxuries of home. That's what America is. Also guns, let's start the podcast. Don't you think though? I think about that all the time. I'm like, I always get upset going.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I want it to be like London or I want it to be like Europe where you're out on our Fresco dining. It's not about our Fresco dining. It is about fucking setting up shop at home and having conveniences delivered to you. Uh, look, I look at, I look at Australian house. I just bought that house in Perth and I'm like, would it fucking kill you to put a wardrobe
Starting point is 00:04:05 in these fucking things? Why do you make the living spaces so big and the bedroom so fucking small Australia? What is wrong with you? What are you trying to prove here? How many outfits do you need? You bloody poof. Exactly. And it's like, but it's also it's like, I might want it because, because America is
Starting point is 00:04:22 like, you know what America is? You don't even have to get out of bed. That's what America is all about. It's you don't get out of bed and America has also taken a shit in a toilet with a lot of water. So you never smell a thing. Leave this in the podcast. Doesn't stink.
Starting point is 00:04:39 I will fight to the bitter end every time. Okay. First of all, toilets around the world. Let's talk about them. Right. Toilets around the world. America, number one with a bullet. Now I have a Toto from Japan, which is thing, but my other hand, the high water
Starting point is 00:04:55 where the poo doesn't fall from a high level and splash in. So the splash goes back up into your asshole. It just simply glides into the water like a crocodile leaving the shore back into the land, you know? Right. And, and then the poo sits there and then we don't, in Australia, the water pushes the water like this, tries to push it through as much as possible. Even though you've left this small amount.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I have a hemorrhoidal asshole where my half my ass prolapses. Sometimes my shits come in at a slant. Right. I don't have to every Australian toilet. I got to clean and brush and clean and brush. Not America. It just takes my poos away and off they go. Oh, that's that's what I stand. That's what I stand is to watch that and it just sucks it away. You know, in Australia, the Americans won't even notice when you're sitting on a a toilet in Australia and you're halfway through a shit and you
Starting point is 00:05:47 think, Oh, give a courtesy flush there. You have to stand up for the courtesy flush. Otherwise the water will cover your asshole. Right? When America, you can sit on the toilet whilst you flush it and you will remain just as dry as you ever fought. And don't get me started on England and their crank flushes where you have to really work it. It doesn't work at first.
Starting point is 00:06:07 It's like revving up an old fucking car. We bring the clutch out. All right. Here we go. If you think that's bad, flooded the bowl. I've even been to my German in-laws. I went to their place in the shelf because they inspect their shit with a stick to see their health.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Yeah, they look at the shelf and then it goes down from the shelf into another land. They pick at it. Yeah. They pick at their shit and that's why the Germans have that sort of, that humility inside of them because they literally smell their shit and know who they are, whereas Americans is about, if who doesn't smell, you that's why you're clean. You're comfortable. You're arrogant because you don't even know that you are just a primate. You're a goddamn American.
Starting point is 00:06:50 And you have risen above the animalism of the rest of the world. You're a first class citizen who gets things delivered to your house. You get fat. And if you get too fat, you get ozempic. And then ozempic makes you skinny again, but still kind of weird on the inside. And then you shit into a bowl of water that Never lets you smell anything and it goes down a drain. God bless this country. U.S.A. Fuckin' A
Starting point is 00:07:13 All right, Jim, obviously it's been a hell of a week since we last spoke. We've had the 4th of July We have also seen the end of the Me Too movement. We've seen the end of the Me Too movement and what I'm now describing as the move on movement. How, okay, so you're saying the end of the Me Too movement, so you can't be Me Tooed anymore or you're just saying that? Well, I think you can be Me Tooed, but it just depends on how much fame, fortune and political power you have because let's start with our number one story of the week. Well actually probably on par now is the Epstein story but we'll put that one to the backseat as we go with the other major rape story. Did he? He didn't they
Starting point is 00:07:56 reckon. They reckon he didn't. You say he did. Well I'm reading here he received a standing ovation from fellow inmates as he returned to his prison after being acquitted of the most serious charges. He was acquitted of sex trafficking and racketeering, but was convicted on the two less accounts of transportation to engage in trust. Look, you know how I've always felt about this, getting a prostitute to get on an airplane and fly the state lines is hardly a crime, especially if these girls have web pages that say, fly me to you. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:29 Like it's the problem with the problem with sex trafficking is it conjures up ideas of women being thrown in shipping containers. And although that may happen, I don't know. Some Dickensian child catching van. Yes, exactly. No, these aren't, these are people who are going, who are being trafficked against their will. These are people who are willingly getting on airplanes and going to these parties.
Starting point is 00:08:50 No one's ever shown up at a party by accident. Right. So I, yes. So I always thought the sex trafficking thing was, cause it's very clear the man's abusive. You see him beat up that girl in the hallway. Yeah. Very clear that I'm sure he probably extorted people and most probably I think he killed Tupac, allegedly. I mean, no, no, no, no, no. All he did was have sex with hookers in different states.
Starting point is 00:09:17 And rub cum on his nipples. And if it's a crime to rub cum on your nipples, then throw the book at him. Yeah. And also, as I've said, whenever they pick on celebrities for going to Diddy's parties, they go on this celebrities here, that celebrity was there. I would have been there if I was invited. No doubt. If you told me to go to one of the white parties in the Hamptons with Diddy and LeBron James is going to be there.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Aston Kutcher is going to be there. All these different people are going to be there. Of course you'd go. So you can't condemn people for going to the parties. It's what happened during the party, what you were part of during the party. But also like you think these women are being, oh, what's wrong with you? I'm being trafficked to a party with Aston Kutcher and LeBron James. Get the fuck out of here. You're not being trafficked. All I know is if I was at one of those parties, I'd be the autistic guy inside showing a video people don't want to watch.
Starting point is 00:10:10 That's usually what I do. I'm an isolator. I isolate people at the party and then show clips. You say, look at Tucker Carlson. Am I, I'm like, come look at this. Look at this. Look at, look, look at the way Tucker's grilling Ted here. We have to talk about your jumper there.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Is that from the Tucker Carlson line of freedom or? No, this is, this is what's the 4th of July weekend. They couldn't stitch enough stars in there to actually represent all the states. Well, I'll have you know, this is from our new sponsor, Quince. Oh, it's very good. Oh, wonderful jumper. And I'm wearing this in the fucking... It does look very good quality.
Starting point is 00:10:43 It's lovely quality, a breathable sweater from Quince. It gives you all that waspish style that I so desperately wish to have despite being a greasy Mediterranean myself. Isn't it nice? Okay. That's a quote. That's a meme. Gives you all that waspish style without being a greasy Mediterranean like myself.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Yeah. Like, you know, this feels like you'd be wearing this at the Hamptons, but I'm currently in a abandoned yoga studio in Kankakee, Illinois, the home of Al Capone. Yeah. And you've got a golf simulator behind you. Life's tough. Is it? It is a golf simulator here for employees of the steel company that I'm
Starting point is 00:11:18 stealing the wifi from at the moment. But did he, his lawyer has spoken. He hasn't spoken properly and his lawyer has said this. I'm not sure whether our sponsors quints wish to be associated with the lawyer of Diddy, but I'm sure Diddy's lawyer would wear a sweater like this to his lake house. Not Diddy himself, this is Diddy style. Maybe to the light party. Don't look at me like that. You're not even wearing your quint sweater. You attack them. This fine craftsmanship. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Just, just stop. Leave the sponsor alone when you're mentioning rape allegations. It's not hard. It's not hard. It's not hard. Okay. Well, he's convicted of and cleared of the. Not of all of them.
Starting point is 00:12:00 There was things he was convicted of. Let's, let's be very clear on this podcast. Diddy is not an innocent man. Not a good guy. Not a good guy. Not innocent. We don't condone this dude. Who's innocent. We are not an ally. Well, I, you, I am not an ally of Diddy. Just want that out there. You did just say you would be at the party, but I would dog come on Come on you wouldn't go to the party if there's all this before you knew all this stuff tomorrow I wouldn't go to the party But two years ago you wouldn't have gone to one of those parties get the fuck out of here Of course You would have fucking you would have been walking around all the shops trying to get the widest of white outfits
Starting point is 00:12:41 Although you you would you personally you probably already have one in your wardrobe with a hood and everything, but too diverse for me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's one white outfit that was never welcome at a Diddy party. The only all white party I'd like to go to at this point in my life is Wimbledon. The original all white party. Yeah, that's true. True that. All right. That's, that's good. That's happening at this moment.
Starting point is 00:13:07 That's good. It all works in the podcast. British pedophilic. They wear all white and have strawberries and cream. Yeah. You lick the strawberries and cream off my nipples. My nipples.
Starting point is 00:13:19 What's your nipples? You naughty bucks. And the whore. Okay. So the lawyer says realises he has his flaws. Yeah. And you know what? First floor, the second floor, the first floor is hetero, second floor is gay, third floor is be whatever you want to be. There's three floors of whores.
Starting point is 00:13:39 But he has all the flaws and there's no amount of fame or fortune that can ever erase his flaws and to him I say wrong as the Jeffrey Epstein DOJ statement today would suggest that there is a level of. If the lawyer is still speaking or if you started to speak in this. I've started to, that's why we changed what I said. Yeah. You have to, you have to do it inverted.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Like, and I say wrong like you it's still so long do a different voice play characters know when you're going in and out of the episode do he's like now I know he's his lawyer and an African-American man with a distinguished voice because I don't want you to do the impersonation under no no so you say I'm doing a southern lawyer oh yeah you're gonna do a southern white lawyers that's always Patney's No. So you say he realizes I'm doing a Southern, I'm doing a Southern lawyer. Oh yeah. Southern white. Are you going to do one of those Southern white lawyers?
Starting point is 00:14:27 That's always Patney's forehead with a cloth. Well, I can say the foghorn leghorn. You're doing a fog. I do declare that Mr. Coombs realizes Mr. Coombs may have had some semen on his nipples. Yes, of course he did. But has a man, has a man never taken a whore across a state line?
Starting point is 00:14:51 Have you not purchased weed in Michigan and taken it to Indiana? Oh, and baby oil? I have baby oil every day because my thighs rub against each other. Does that make me a predator? Can any American truly say that Mr. Diddy is an enemy when he takes all that wonderful oil? And what is more American than taking oil copious amounts of liquid gold? All right. So just so we remember, you're picturing a fat white guy mopping his forehead with a napkin right now. But it is funny.
Starting point is 00:15:28 So obviously Diddy's I mean, he's like abusive piece of shit. He's probably a honeypot scheme for the black community and for the arts community, the way that Jeffrey Epstein was a honeypot for politics and science, you know, the Nobel Laureates, et cetera, the Bill Gates.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I think Diddy was doing that for culture. That's my belief. And now Diddy's walking free. Essentially, he'll get a few years. And this is classic America in the same way that Al Capone got done for tax. You know, what do you think Diddy's next step is? Do you think there's an album? Do you think he lays low? Do you think if I was him personally, I just call it a day and I would still have my parties. I'd know the legal loopholes then wouldn't you? You just go. It's tougher. It's tougher to go to one of those parties now. You'd be like mental note, stop hitting women and buddy have the nice parties and keep your baby or rub as much come in your
Starting point is 00:16:23 nipples as you want and live a quiet life. You'd have to think Jay Z telling Beyonce, I'm just nipping off to Sean's party. It'd be a little harder to get the night off. Yeah. Wouldn't it? Yeah. No, he's a different guy now. We're just, he got pickleball courts now.
Starting point is 00:16:41 There'd be a new song on lemonade. Becky with the cum filled hair. Yeah. So I think did he, maybe he could put together an album with him and Will Smith. Like if they would come back. I'm still angry about that. I had an argument about after we did the podcast, we talked about Will Smith doing that thing and I said, I don't accept these apology and I might be in his movies or anything, my mother-in-law was downstairs and she heard it.
Starting point is 00:17:02 And I had another sort of argument, but I had a dispute with her because she's still team Will Smith. Will Smith could do no wrong in my mother-in-law's eyes. She thinks he's just the most magical person on the other hand. Your mom, your mom, uh, looks at Will Smith, my mother-in-law, not my mom. My mom is dead. Thanks for bringing that up. Very hurtful. Imagine if I mentioned the death of trots. She, well, she's, she's still kicking. Yeah. the that called? It's not a kick as much. It's more of a batting. I just realized you're talking about my mum's pig like legs.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Which she's looking very good, mum. And Hey, look, look, as, as me and our manager, Andrew Taylor have always said, you're fine looking woman, your mother. Carry on. So what your mother-in-law, the way that she looks at Will Smith is the way that the DOJ looks at Jeffrey Epstein. An unfairly maligned man who was unfairly targeted. What's happening now?
Starting point is 00:18:15 They say that there's no Epstein file. They say that he hasn't committed suicide and they have the footage to prove it, but there seems to be some time missing out. Okay, so I'll run you through the top because this is really this is the end of I mean, this is the Trump administration at pure comedy because they really rode a wave there of this is we need to bring things to light. This is the modern church committee where we're going to reveal and bring the CIA and the FBI out from the dark and we're going to have this massive truth telling mission
Starting point is 00:18:45 and we have to find out what was going on on those Epstein tapes. Bill Clinton was going there, Bill Gates, Melinda Gates left Bill because of the rapes. This island. Whoa, alleged, alleged, alleged. These are things that people who are now inside the FBI were saying. Okay, your Cash Patels, your Dan Bonginos, they made a fucking fortune and they had all their followers about revealing what was a very, very obvious cover up and the last administration. I just want to get comfortable for this.
Starting point is 00:19:18 So wait a minute, you're about to say something bad about Trump. I think I've been hard on Trump for about the last eight episodes. I think you've been hard on Trump for about the last eight episodes. I think you've been hard for Trump in about the last fucking eight years. So what ended up happening was the DOJ came out and said that there was no evidence that Jeffrey Epstein had blackmailed powerful figures or that he kept a client list or that he was murdered. Wait a minute. When does a list of friends who you party with become a list of clients?
Starting point is 00:19:48 What is the difference? Well, we've got a woman called Jelaine Maxwell, who's doing 20 years in prison for trafficking young girls. And thousands of them supposedly. And now they're saying it didn't happen. To who? No, to who? So you're willing to say that this person and Jeffrey Epstein were trafficking young women to be
Starting point is 00:20:07 fucked by someone. If there's got to be a buyer on the other end. If you're if you're if you're Giselle Maxwell and you're in prison right now, you must be like, are you fucking kidding me? Who did I? She should be able to appeal, right? She should be able to appeal if everyone? She should be able to appeal. If everyone else is being told that nothing happened. Yeah. Earlier this year, Pam Bondi, the AG said, and I quote here, where was it? She said that she had the file on her desk and they were reviewing the file, but
Starting point is 00:20:37 they had to be careful with revealing it all because there was thousands of hours of child pornography. That's what they said. And today, what you have to watch it all like, I don't understand where you have to be. I see that was saying just release everything and she was saying well we can't release that we're not gonna put CP out there we have to protect the victims we don't want to re-victimize them by putting their stuff back out in the public. Sure. Today they're now saying there is no file, there's no client list, the case is closed and then
Starting point is 00:21:03 Donald Trump was asked a question because his MAGA base It's been a big thing for them but it's been one of the most driving forces for a certain wing of those people and He had this to say to the journalists who were asking questions This one is hard to believe that it's real check this out Check this out. Jeffrey Epstein, it left some lingering mysteries. One of the biggest ones is whether he ever worked for an American or foreign intelligence agency.
Starting point is 00:21:32 The former labor secretary who was Miami U.S. Attorney Alex Kostak, he allegedly said that he did work for an intelligence agency. So could you resolve whether or not he did? And also could you say why there was a minute missing from the jailhouse tape? Yeah sure. Can I just interrupt? Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things. And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? That is unbelievable. Do you feel like answering? I don't mind answering.
Starting point is 00:22:13 I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this, where we're having some of the greatest success and also tragedy. So when pressed on it, Trump steps in and says, who is this guy? Epstein. And he's like, there's so much footage of them looking at girls on dance floors. Didn't traffic any human beings and the case is closed that he doesn't work for intelligence, but shame on you for bringing it up because there was a flood. I like that's what about is a minute at its best because there's we're
Starting point is 00:22:46 doing all these things. Why would you bring up bad stuff? But also to say this creep is creep is very clearly Epstein and him were mates. There's so many pictures of them together. They were very clearly friends or at least friendly when you know, in the photos, they always look like they got along. And then for him to say, Oh, this is fake news. Why are we talking about this? All the time. This is the man who said that we'd fucking that people were eating cats and dogs and shit.
Starting point is 00:23:10 And now this is too, this is, I can't believe you're bringing up such a, an insane thing. You're bringing up something we've just found out about yesterday and you're bringing it up today. You're bringing up that there was a minute missing from the footage in the prison cell where he didn't commit suicide. Why would you bring that up within 24 hours of us finding out? That's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Not only that, Alex Acosta, who was the US attorney of Miami, who was, his job was to prosecute Epstein the first time. He was told by the CIA, and I quote here from him, I was told Epstein belonged to intelligence and I should leave it alone, which is why Epstein got the sweetheart deal in the first place. So back in the day, they confirmed that he was working for an intelligence service. The whole point of the island, I mean he's this mysterious figure that gets given millions and millions of dollars, works with the billionaire Leslie Wexner, known associate of Mossad. People are going to the island, they get corrupted.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And Alex Acosta says he works for intelligence. And now they're like, it never happened. He's a creep, weird guy. Was anyone been to the island lately? Like where is the island first of all? I think somebody feed Phil went there and did a food episode. Right. Like I'm saying like, okay. Like, you know, when there's like, Anthony Bourdain would have gone there now.
Starting point is 00:24:33 You know, when there's those episodes, like, like someone visits an island and there's like a Japanese soldier who doesn't know that world war two is over and he's hiding up in a tree. Do you reckon there's just like one teenage prostitute is now like 36 wandering around going, Oh, well, I went for Prince Andrew to come back. Just an asus. I'm on duty. I told you, I told the worst job I'd told. I was told to wait here until further instructions.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Yeah. It is such an insult to the intelligence of the public. And it's genuine. I would quite seriously, it is, this is a very, very, very. Inflamed topic for a lot of the public, right? I think a lot of people, this was the conspiracy theory that woke up a bunch of people, cause it was so on the nose. And for them to say, despite them being the group that came in,
Starting point is 00:25:27 because the Biden administration didn't want to do anything about it, they wrecked of cover-up and Trump had this wave of we're going to bring justice. And to do this will lead to extremism because people will think, well, we have no solution at the ballot box. And so meet the new boss, same as the old boss is fucking terrifying. People must think like, well, nothing will ever change. I'm not a big fan of conspiracy theorists for the most part. Most conspiracy theorists I've met have been somewhat of a bunch of assholes or whatever. Um, and the problem with this is obviously this is a coverup. Obviously Trump knows more than anybody's saying.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Obviously there was women going at the Jeff Dean. I was obviously there was a file or Giselle wouldn't be in prison. So when does something like this become, uh, just fact and when does it become conspiracy? So I just think, I just think this leads to, how do I say this? This, this just fuels the morons, right? Now this will snowball into a bigger thing and a bigger thing and a big arm. Just fucking cut this last 10 seconds out. I've made no sense. No, but no, no, but it's this,
Starting point is 00:26:36 it's the complete erosion of public trust. Yeah. Because I don't, I don't consider myself a conspiracy theorist, right? I don't consider myself a conspiracy theorist, but now I'm like, ah, the government's out to get us and they're fucking lying to us and they're keeping these secrets from us. Well, this is what Julian Assange had to say about it. And he said this quite some time ago. I'll quote Julian here.
Starting point is 00:26:54 The reason the FBI won't let the Epstein client list come out in court is because if they did, their blackmail would no longer be useful and the CIA would lose their control of the powerful people they have spent decades setting up with the intelligence operation known as Jeffrey Epstein. That was what Assange had to say. And it seems to me... I would like a few of these celebrities to come forward and go, I was on the plane. I thought all the women there were going to be of age because I don't think that they were all told, oh, there's kids on the, you know what I mean? Like I just thought I was hanging out with Bill Clinton.
Starting point is 00:27:27 It can't be just be one person that goes, I was on the plane. It was fucking mental. There was Oprah was there. She was eating adrenal glands. It was fucking crap. You know what I mean? Like a bit of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Well, there's, I mean, uh, what's the name? Uh, so there's the Dershowitz who is the lawyer, you know, the Harvard lawyer. So there has been people who've come forward and said they were there? Well, the flight logs say that they were there. Now, he had integrated himself so deeply into, you know, New York life, he's with the Nobel prizes. And I mean, supposedly, that is a big breakdown in the marriage of Melinda and Bill Gates. Bill knowingly, continually hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein, despite the fact that he'd already pled guilty to the underage sex charges. Do you think that Bill Gates... I just don't know if he has it in him, does he?
Starting point is 00:28:17 I don't know if Bill Gates has any fuck in him, does he? You think he's an asexual? I don't think he's asexual. I just, okay. In mind you, I, I know I've been told that by a few people that old, uh, Stephen Hawking's used to go to it. He was at the Island. He used to love to go to orgies. The Hawking's.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Stephen Hawking was at the Island. I believe so. You could, so there obviously he was easier to convict. You used to see the tire marks on the sand and you. Yeah. But also, I'm just, I'm just impressed that it was disabled access. That's fantastic. I've said that for years about Jeffrey Epson.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Stay what you will about him. But I mean, the building I'm in right now is stairs only. So I don't, I don't want to look, look, victim shame or anything like that, but can you write, can you be raped by Stephen Hawking's? Well, he's got such such a high intellect that there is a. No, no, he could trick you into it. He could do the words computer like you could do that. But physically, you could get away pretty quick, couldn't you?
Starting point is 00:29:19 Yeah, if you could be sex traffic by Stephen Hawking. Now I'm going to be in trouble for saying that Stephen Hawking's couldn't rape people. I'm anti-disabled. It is funny to think of Jeffrey Epstein. And I'm anti-victim. I'm the worst person in the world. I just said that Stephen Hawking can't rape people. I'll put it out there. They can do whatever they want to do, mate. Disabled person can rape as good as the next person. They can get a dudo on a stick. disabled person can write as good as that expert. They can get a dildo on a stick. Never, he could never point it.
Starting point is 00:29:46 He gave a machine like that, right? Yeah. He could put attachments on him. Like he was inspecting the gadget. He can admit a very strong frequency that vibrates the woman. So Epstein, so what do you reckon? So just quickly, just imagine Jeffrey Epstein inspecting the island, right?
Starting point is 00:30:05 Knowing what he was going to do in it. And he's like, so at the grotto out the back there, I noticed there's no chairlift. No, Mr. Epstein, we didn't think you would need a chairlift. What kind of operation do you think I'm running here? Do you think I don't give access to wealthy disabled people to be able to engage in audits? How little do you think of me and our organization? Or maybe helping people who got broken in the pool get out. We are a progressive. I'm not because I'm talking about people who dive dead first or something like that. Fuck and L J.
Starting point is 00:30:46 That gave me, Jack gave me a bad look then. You did. You gave a look, but there's no doubt about it for me. Elon's America party, which launched over the weekend on the, you know what? Okay. Elon would have gone with Jeffrey Epstein if he wasn't such an awkward autistic fuck. I don't know. I don't think no one wants, no one wants Elon on the plane with them chatting about things.
Starting point is 00:31:05 No one goes bring Elon out to the party. I'd rather have the guy that speaks like this in a wheelchair. He's much, he tells a better joke than Elon. Well, you think Elon will be on the plane going, uh, actually, um, uh, my jet, uh, my rocket would get us here in three seconds. That's pretty cool. Yeah, that's exactly what he would do. Exactly. You would have kept on hitting the roof
Starting point is 00:31:29 because private jets every time he went to wave or salute or whatever he does he'd be hurt in his hand so what are you because you're a guy that keeps out of all of this and this yeah I've got an awkward personality to don't invite me to the island I don't get invited to diddy I don't invite me to the island. I don't get invited to Diddy, I don't get invited on the island. I've said to you countless times about this, I'm the person who you know loses his life because I don't have a family on the internet all day reading about these things. You're a normie and so what I was going to say to you is where do you sit with this now? Yeah because you're not, you always say I'm completely against any conspiracy theory, I'm not interested.
Starting point is 00:32:04 you're not. You always say I'm completely against any conspiracy theory, I'm not interested. What does this wreak of to you? I don't even know if it's a conspiracy. I don't know if it's a conspiracy theory now. I think it's just a basic cover-up. I think it's just a basic cover-up. And I think it ceases to become a conspiracy theory when it becomes the norm, what people think. I think if you polled the American people or the people of the world, I think you would come back with 80%, if not higher, saying this all looks very fishy for me. This looks like a coverup. Well, the sad thing I think for a lot of MAGA people is they're starting to realise that Donald Trump might just be a different form of a deep state puppet
Starting point is 00:32:43 installed to usher in a new world agenda. Yeah, he would have resisted under a left-wing candidate. He might be a bit of a grifter who's there for money. Who knows? Who knows? Who knows? Which brings us to our next story. Which doesn't feel great saying this in my sweater.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Which brings us to our next story. Oasis are back baby. Oasis. Have you been watching the clips? I got very emotional watching the clips. I thought it was awesome. And I didn't realise that Noel had gone through a divorce and seemed quite sad and everyone was saying how beautiful it was that Liam at one point went over and raised his brother big talking point of the internet has been that everyone said that Noel pretended like he didn't want it. But when he was up there during slide away, they were like, Oh, he wanted it the most. Look at him. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:30 No, he wanted it. He wanted it. When I interviewed Noel, he, he said, I said, uh, what can you tell me about your music? He goes, I'm much, much, much, much, much more prefer what I do now than what I used to do. Right. And I remember thinking, I don't know about that, man. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:48 And now to see him together, to see, cause in the last 10 years of them concert, they used to just walk out and put their hands in the air. They never held each other's hands. They never did the rolling stones arm around. And what is, what's going on with Oasis is being like an awakening for men. I reckon in my age, right? We don't show our emotions very much. We're, we're of a generation where we're, but my wife watches the real housewives
Starting point is 00:34:14 and the van a pump rules and that type of stuff. And she follows people. I've been following these two men and just going, why can't they get along? And now that they're getting along, how many brothers and sisters, how many siblings across the world do you think are making up now because of this? Uh, I mean, they are making hundreds of millions, which is, does bring it to the table. No, I think after seeing that photo of the arm being held, you'd probably think, oh, fuck, I'm, you know, and they're probably regretting it quite frankly,
Starting point is 00:34:43 after if they call their brother and he's a cunt on the phone, they feel pretty stupid about it. Well, their third brother, he get to come. No, not the third brother. I'm saying there must be a lot of people that got emotional seeing that and thought, I will call my brother.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Then you call your brother and you're like, hey mate, and he's like, what the fuck do you want? And you're like, I regret this. My father and my uncle were five years on, five years off my entire life. At the moment they're going through a purple patch. They've been about 10 years on. They're doing good at the moment. But every five years we'd go over to Christmas, we'd make it slightly past dinner and then
Starting point is 00:35:18 we'd have to leave because Brian's a fucking dickhead and he's fucked the country. He's a lefty versus conservative. Yeah. So my father was a right wing and my, my, uh, my uncle Brian's a lefty and uncle Brian worked in politics somewhat. And, uh, so my dad used to think that the country was stuffed because of Brian. It was used to, I used to, I remember getting home in the car. You'd be like 10 years old.
Starting point is 00:35:42 You'd be sitting in the car, coming home and you'd be like, years old you'd be sitting in the car coming home and you'd be like fuck uncle Brian's fucked the country which is such a compliment uncle Brian I don't want to talk shit about your uncle Brian but I grew up in the same country I'd never heard of Brian I'm unaware of Brian's footprint on you've met him now you can see how he did it. I can see he's a, he's a, he's a, he's wormed his way in, he's a very nasty puppeteer. I like Brian, he's a good dude, but so Brian and my dad get along really well and if you watch a TV show coming out on seven, which has been announced, which Amos Gill will be on and several other, my friends, many friends who have played the Melbourne Comedy Festival, you might've seen them on, on that TV show.
Starting point is 00:36:27 And many people from overseas called Jim Jeffries and friends will be coming out the next few months on seven. Right. And we recorded it some somewhere about two years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We recorded it about no, just over a year ago.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Now we recorded it. There's going to be people on TV. So he was going like this. I've got a friend called Jeffrey Epstein. I was going to his Island and, uh, you know, There's going to be people on TV. So he's going like this. I've got a friend called Jeffrey Epstein. I was going to his Island and, uh, you know, there's going to be a bit of that. We recorded it so long ago. We were doing Trump jokes about him being in office, which thank God, but he's back again, because it's so old.
Starting point is 00:36:58 But one of the nice things about that show, and this is like fucking hell. My uncle Brian, I think is 90. Yeah. Right. If they leave this show any longer to be aired, we're going to have to put an in memoriam at the end for my dad and Brian. Like we can't cause they, my dad and my uncle Brian are in the audience the whole time sitting next to each other. They look like the two old cunts from the Muppet show and, and, uh, they interact with the audience. Now they set him in one place. Every time they went to talk, there was a guy with a boom mic who had to run over
Starting point is 00:37:30 to make sure that they, they had audio. Anyway, what I'm saying is if you have siblings, if you have brothers and sisters, it is no point not getting along. Just, just be nice to each other. That's like Ringo Starr's birthday. It was yesterday. You know what he said to the world? I want everyone at midday to go peace and love.
Starting point is 00:37:48 I fucking did it, man. That's that's what that's what old British museums use. Musicians used to say peace and love. Now they're like death. We need to drop a bomb. Yeah, an internment camp on every Jew. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Beatles never went. All you need is the refugees back. All you need is alligator Alcatraz. Alligators are all you need. Come on, love. Peace and alligators. Peace and alligators.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Come over the border and you're going to be put into a pit of snakes. Now for our next song, I size baby. Yeah. It was a different time. It was, uh, it is interesting watching the Oasis though, cause it feels like America's had its, we're America again moment. Okay. There's like this re-emergence of patriotism and Britain has just sort of
Starting point is 00:38:48 been this sad, foggy aisle for a while that was full of self-loathing. And maybe with Oasis coming back, they might have that rule Britannia. I haven't been living there in this time. I lived in Britain for a long time. I have a lot of love for the UK and since Brexit, I feel like the UK has been in a funk. They hate it themselves. And you know what? It sucks to be around, countries are no different to people. It sucks to be around a deeply depressed mopey country and Britain has got no joy about themselves. Okay, so did you read the stats? It was, it was on the lad Bible or whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Um, bucket hats have gone up 700% in sales, right? In the last two months, bucket hats. The new merchandise range from Adidas was fucking money. Oh, I've got, I've got, I've got two of them. I bought it already. Yeah. It's all sold out. It's sold out minutes. I only got the two garments that were left.
Starting point is 00:39:45 I got the Man City one, long sleeves. Oh mate. I only found out about it the day after. So I've never tried to line up for anything like that, but I would have a hundred percent got that. That's. Um, uh, so Buckethead. So you're, you're, you're going, right?
Starting point is 00:39:58 You're going to. I'm going to London and I'm going to Toronto. Uh, because I, when I was meant to be seeing him in LA, they had already gone. So, and I was taking my son and my son who is 12, who, um, has started to show interest in music and started to find, you know, that age where you start to figure out what you're all about musically, right? What's my bag? What do I listen to?
Starting point is 00:40:23 Right. And, and I started playing him Oasis in the car because I said, we're going to this concert. And then he watched supersonic, the documentary by himself. Then he made his mother watch supersonic, the documentary. And he, he started like, Hank started coming at me with B sites. And like when he saw the set, he goes, Oh, this is the set list. And he was watching it live. It was happening in Cardiff.
Starting point is 00:40:44 He goes, they're playing this Oh, this is the setlist. And he was watching it live. It was happening in Cardiff. He goes, they're playing this song. They're playing this song there. And then at the end, like a true music fan, he went like this. I wish they played go, let it out. And I'm like, Oh, that's good. That's a deep cut, son. That's a deep cut.
Starting point is 00:40:58 And he's like, as opposed to my girlfriend who was like, can they play wonderwall four times? Yeah, exactly. Right. Oh, Bill Burr, Bill. I love Bill Bur exactly. Right. Oh, Bill Burr, Bill. I love Bill Burr, right. I think Bill Burr is great. And I said to him, I said, I'm going to go see Oasis.
Starting point is 00:41:11 I'm going to say see Oasis. He goes, eh, eh, fucking, you know what? That they're like two songs, but they're like, they're funnier than any comedian. They're just like the funniest comedian you've ever seen. And they're good in interviews. That's why they're famous. And I was like, it's not, it's not, that's not true. It's just cause you're American.
Starting point is 00:41:29 You've ever been master plan was an album of B-sides, which is better than most people's albums. He feels about Oasis the way you feel about Johnny cash. Oh no, I can't condemn him. It's all music. Yeah, we're all, but, but, uh, so, so I said to my son, I said, Oh, we bought him tickets to see the Rose Bowl. And then I just was looking at my calendar and I was like, Oh, no, like, the the gig is on while I'm in England. So I'm flying out to England to see Oasis, then I'm
Starting point is 00:41:58 coming back to America, then I'm going to England while they're in America. Right. And I'm like, fuck, I'm not going to get to see Oasis with my son. I said, Hank, I said, I said, we're not, I can't go. I'll be in the UK. And he went, that's all right, dad. That's okay. I'll, I'll go with mom. And I just looked at his face and I just, and I got on my phone and within seconds I went, we're going to Toronto, son. Come on.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Come on, son. We're fucking mad for it. We're going to go out to Toronto. Boys trip on. We're going to fucking go Roger center. That must be nice to be able to do something with your kid like that. Yeah. Because you don't get these moments.
Starting point is 00:42:39 You don't get first concerts again. Like he's been to ACDC, right? But you don't get little experiences where you're looking forward to it or where your kid wants to hang out with you. It sort of ends at 15 or something like that. So you've got to take these moments. This is my parenting tip of the day. If you have young kids, you don't have to spend every minute of the day with them.
Starting point is 00:42:58 You don't have to do everything, but pick moments and try to take them because they won't come back again. Well, I was like when your mother left you for another man, you were put and you didn't know where you were living as a kid. Remember that, Gilly? I do remember that. And it was the music of Oasis that got me. Particularly the song, Fucking in the Bushes,
Starting point is 00:43:20 which is what I found her doing at the Yacht Club. fucking in the bushes, which is what I found her doing at the yoke club. You walk past, you see your mum being like, we put this festival on you bastards. They didn't play that. Actually, I thought that open on that. They do open with that. They did.
Starting point is 00:43:41 It's an instrumental. They don't play it. That's the song that Oasis plays at the beginning of concerts to let you know you have three minutes. They do a lot of it's coming it's time it's ba da da and then they walk out and then they play hello. I've already memorized the setlist. Well, Jimmy Boy, after you gave us that impassioned rant about reaching out for family and the importance of family, I thought I'd take us to another story about family.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Yeah. It's an Australian story about family. It's all good. I like Australian stories of love. It's a story about a mother and the love language that most of us love about our mothers is food. Food. My mother always... The dining table.
Starting point is 00:44:21 My mother always left bags of chocolates hidden around the house. We assumed for her, but maybe they were for us. Our whole house was an Easter egg hunt, 365 days a year. And I don't think that there's anything that says I care about you. I see you. I look after you and I want to be part of your life. Be with you. Like the family meal.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Around the table. The meal around the. I don't think enough of this. Do it. The meal around the table is a lost art to this generation. I think it's a lost art. It's ruining our society that people don't do it enough. I think when people started doing TV dinners and meals were had in front of the TV or can I eat this in my room, dad, while I game? I thought that broke families. And so to hear about a family that dines
Starting point is 00:45:06 together call me a conservative the family the family that dines together stays together that's true Erin Patterson a good Australian woman sounds like a lovely lady from Leon Gatha doesn't she might be related to banjo Patterson our greatest poet well she's she's got her own art and her art is culinary she's uh unfortunately which i think just goes to show how fucking insane well what's what's what's her signature dish well she she's a big fan of mushrooms i would love mushrooms could put mushrooms in anything they always make me feel good about myself they're tasty and they're healthy well you'd like it because she's actually whipped up for her family. Your favorite meal, which is the beef Wellington. My favorite meal to be, you know, what's wonderful about the beef
Starting point is 00:45:51 Wellington is it's a wonderful master chef episode because when it's cooked, you can't cut off to see what's going, you have to slice into it. What do you think we're going to see here? Do you think it's going to be medium rare in the middle? And you can do it with a bit of pancetta around the side, a bit of parma ham, a bit of parma ham. You lay that flat on top of the pastry, then you do a pate of mushrooms around to give the moistness and the tenderness before the beef fillet in the middle, who is the star of the piece. But I would say the mushroom is the co-star worthy of an Oscar. Well, Miss Patterson had her in-laws over Don and Gail movement at the station. Okay. And Gail's sister.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Yeah. Oh, Heather, Heather. I hear Heather hasn't got a life together. And unfortunately after the meal, they fell quite ill. Oh, this has become a court case. That's how anti-family traditional values Australia has become. It turns out Aaron Patterson has been found guilty just yesterday of murder. Murder?
Starting point is 00:46:59 Yes. After hearing nine weeks of evidence, a jury has found Aaron Patterson 50 guilty of murdering three relatives and attempting to kill another. She served up the Beath Wellington decat that would contain death cap mushrooms at her home in Leongatha. I'd never heard of that before. Have you heard of a death cap mushroom? I, well, I know that a lot of mushrooms are poisonous and you have to know how to pick
Starting point is 00:47:20 mushrooms and not how to pick mushrooms because Gary Newton, my father, one time decided that he'd pick some wild grown, he would eat some wild grown mushrooms from the backyard. Right. He's also, we'll also add this. He's also eaten snails from the backyard, regular household snails, because he heard the French did it. Oh, wow. Yeah. And he picked up his own mushrooms and he got rather sick. And my brother went over there and he was fucking green with colour and then he went yeah I don't know what it could be I just had that mushrooms from the yard and I've just had you know like yeah he was sick he was sick so they can't hurt you where do you get them from? The meal led to the deaths and we're going to find out that this chef has made a few
Starting point is 00:48:01 mistakes along the way so this is not a recipe to follow. Prosecutors have argued that Patterson knowingly added the toxic mushrooms, lied to police and dispose of the evidence, though they acknowledge she had no clear motive. I mean, they have fucking in-laws, so. Right, but you wanted to kill the whole family? So I didn't know much about this story
Starting point is 00:48:21 and I'll lay it out to you now. Firstly, Patterson denied guilt, saying she accidentally included the poisonous funky and lied to the police out of panic. Victoria Police thanked the officers and this is where we start to get a little bit bizarre in the story. So first of all, can you see what I'm seeing? What a big Croatian head? That's slightly sunburned because I've been at the beach. With what looks like greys. Yeah'm getting gray I did I've just been golfing eight hours a day it's a tough life how's your game have you been
Starting point is 00:48:54 hitting any birdies you know I've been it's so appallingly bad and my whole in-law family with that we play together and when you tee off and you miss a ball or you smash it, you know, well wide, you slice it, the look that a father-in-law gives you is fucking crushing. If you can't drive a ball properly, he will look at you and go like, you fucking loser. Okay. I'll tell you what's about to happen in your life, right? If you get married and you have kids, right? Because your sister-in-law doesn't have kids, correct?
Starting point is 00:49:27 No, no. My brother-in-law, his wife is pregnant. Oh, golly. Okay, well, you wanted to get to there first. When you have the children, the in-laws, your parents, your mother, your father, your in-laws, no longer have power. All the cards have just been placed into your lap.
Starting point is 00:49:45 All you have to do, look at that father in law, when you slice the ball and just, and he looks disappointed, just look at him and go, I'll make you a grandfather cunt, right? I don't think he's that. They, they want it more than anything. They say they don't want it. They, they're like ravenous dogs about grandchildren. You know what he said to me?
Starting point is 00:50:02 Jack's parents are so unhappy. You know what he said to me the other day? Jack's parents are so unhappy. You know what he said to me the other day? He goes, he goes, Amos, he goes, Amos, do you, this is his talk in the golf cart in front of him and he goes, do you have a visit to the dentist? I said, uh, well, I go, when I go back to Australia, I go to the, to the dentist. And he goes, so you don't have, um, healthcare in America? I go, no, I don't really earn any money in America. You know, I don't have too much. He goes,
Starting point is 00:50:28 ah, and you are 34 years of age. I said, yes. And so what he does is he just prosecutes me like I'm on the bench. So he gets me to admit I don't have health care, I don't have any plans of health care. I only go to the dentist once a year. And yes, that's right. If I had kids, I probably wouldn't be able to put them on any have health care. I don't have any plans of health care I only kind of the dentist once a year and yes, that's right If I had kids, I probably wouldn't be able to put them on any special health care plan right now and you're right
Starting point is 00:50:50 I don't have a Netflix special coming out and Then all I'm left with is to tell him that I'd like to cook him something. Hmm a beef Wellington Let me cook you something. Let me get back to this. After you slice that ball into the bushes and you go to retrieve it, there's a little pile of mushrooms. Do you think yourself? Yeah. Dinner's on me.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Hungry Anton? Luckily for both of us here, you do have health insurance. That's his little laugh that he has a cartoon villain laugh my father-in-law right so if he hits a good ball he goes maybe less of a fucking tycoon of the oil business would you say I sent you a picture of the Wellington could you get it on your phone I want you to because you love beef wellingtons if someone said this I wouldn't have gotten. I would have stood up and thrown a napkin down and said, this is a disgrace. This is slop.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Where's the beef? I've wanted to say this my whole life. Where's the beef? That's a fucking, that's a mushroom hot pocket. Isn't it? It looks like, you know what it looks like, it looks like a really bad chocolate croissant. Yeah, that's, yeah, she can't get away with that. Some of the photos released by the Supreme Court of Victoria show that beef Wellington leftovers which have been collected leftovers were sent for testing determined. Oh, that's the leftover. Someone's pulled the fillet out of the middle.
Starting point is 00:52:18 It would have been better when it was all pulled out. What you're watching there is like, you know, like a pair of stockings when someone's pulled the leg out, they don't look as sexy on the floor, do they? And so the images show that maybe they do. I must disagree with disagree with me. I just think if I honestly, if I serve that to you, you roast me. You know what me and Jack had for lunch today before the podcast meat pies from a New Zealand meat pie company in LA, in LA, it was a bit New Zealandy. You know, they did things like, we also had sausage rolls. They put f*****g fennel in the sausage rolls.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Like, what are you doing? What are you doing? I don't mind that in a, in a, in a sausage roll pork and fennel. Well, that's cause you're f*****g swine. Basic you basically want party pie food for children. Well, we got a box. We got a box of party pies. That was the best bit.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Let me get back to the murders. I've still got a big pile in the fridge. I can bring it up and show it to you if you like, but I've got it. I've got a big pile in the fridge. This is where Aaron Patterson starts to lose me. The photo shows Aaron Patterson's dining room table where she served up the food and a food dehydrator, which she initially denied owning, despite an instruction manual and receipt being later
Starting point is 00:53:30 found at her house by police. Patterson later admitted she dumped it at a local tip the week after the lunch because she panicked. It was recovered by police in a forensic examination and covered her fingerprints and traces of death cap mushrooms. These images. Well, they found it in the tip. How did they find it in the tip? I reckon he could put a body on top of the tip and they wouldn't find it. You found it in the fucking tip. I've always said to dispose of a body, right?
Starting point is 00:53:56 People are always like, Oh, I go down to the river and put some weights on it. I was like, just do a Jeffrey Dahmer did put them in the bin. Make sure you make been day and then it's gone. Is that what he was doing? Just disposing in the regular bin? He would dismember them, put the body parts in plastic bags, shove them in the bin and then the bin men
Starting point is 00:54:15 would take them away to wherever they go. The tip, the tip is the junkyard, but it's not the junkyard, it's where they landfill. Also, she could have just killed them, chopped them up, you know. Well, yeah, but no, but she wanted to what she wanted to have happen was them all to die. And then her to go, well, family's done. I don't know what's happened. I don't know what's happened.
Starting point is 00:54:40 And then they'll go, it's mushroom poisoning. What? But I only just bought these mushrooms from, from Coles. Well, this is, this is where it gets juicy. So Erin Patterson said the deaths were a tragic accident, but over the nine weeks, the jury heard evidence suggesting the case was murder and decided so. So here's the key details of the case. Her meal was on an orange plate.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Yeah. Ian Wilkinson, who ate the meal, but survived. He was the one that was in the coma. He didn't die. Recall watching Patterson serve the food, five separate beef Wellington's onto four gray plates and an orange one for herself. Okay. Yeah, you got to have them coated.
Starting point is 00:55:14 So otherwise you could mix up a plate. I reckon you should just remember which one's your plate. I think the orange plates are dead giveaway. It's a bit on the nose though. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Did the plate have written around it? Not poison.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Safe, safe, safe plate. Did I ever tell you about what my mother used to do? We'll get back to it in a second. My mother, my mother used to have Coca-Cola. My mother had a lot of food that she was allowed that the rest of the house wasn't allowed. So we had our like non-premium ice cream, like a bit of a big two liter tub, you know, that rectangular lid.
Starting point is 00:55:45 And she had a Magnum Ego. And she had a little Sarah Lee, like the little designer pint of ice cream. And my mother would have Coca-Cola in the house, but we weren't allowed Coca-Cola. So she would rip the label off and then right on the side of the bottle in a sharpie, sometimes you put the label on backwards so you could see her. If the coke was half finished, she'd write at the top. This is poison. And not wrong. This is poison.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Put a couple of skulls and crossbows on there. So like, like the skull and there. And, and she go, this is poison. I remember being like, like, like nine going, Oh God, it's poison. I don't know. She, she must be using it to kill rats or something like that. And my brother just gone and just grabbing it out of the fridge and just sculling from it, just going, Oh, risk it.
Starting point is 00:56:34 And I was like, Oh, just see what happens to him if he dies first. Anyway, so she built it, built up an orange plate. Yeah. She's got, she's got an orange plate. And then Heather, who's sadly passed away now, said to her husband, huh, I'm puzzled and she's short of crockery. Doesn't seem like a person that would be short of crockery. But they had a little chat to each other.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Like, man, maybe she didn't do the washing up. No, had there been any, had there been the family not getting along? Was this like, Hey, I'm sorry for calling you a bitch. I'm sorry for sleeping with your husband. Here's a little peace treaty for me. My famous beef Wellington. Yeah. I don't, I don't know whether there was what the acrimony was, but they said
Starting point is 00:57:16 there's no motive, so if they're saying his name motive, obviously there hasn't been anything, you know, horrific that's gone on clearly there's a motive. She wanted them all dead. And so it turns out she's a bit of a psycho. She had been fired from a job as an air traffic controller for lots of lying or something before. But you'd be thinking... That's what you get for not having diversity. If you'd be thinking, if you were the cop, why didn't you eat it or get sick, right?
Starting point is 00:57:43 Why didn't you get sick? That's your first point of call. And so the police first said to her, why didn't you eat it or get sick, right? Why didn't you get sick? That's your first point of call. And so the police first said to her, why didn't you get sick if everyone else is dying around you? And she said, I found the cake that I'd made very moreish. I ate another piece of cake and then another piece. Yeah, that's how cake is. I can't stop. I said she had cake before the meal.
Starting point is 00:58:03 So she's saying that she, while hosting had eaten so much cake that she'd gotten full. And then she says, so I went to the toilet and brought it back up again. So she's saying she basically believe me in her way to survive because she was thinking I've gotten so fat, I've eaten so much cake. Oh, so she, she says she ate the Wellington. Then afterwards she had cake and then she ate too much cake. And then she's like, Oh, believe me and vomited up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:30 So she's essentially saying my bulimia saved me. Right. Now they're obviously looking at her going, she doesn't look like a woman that brings up food often. She looks like you don't know how big she used to be. Now they've written red flags. Where did the mushrooms come from? Where did the mushrooms come from? Where did the mushrooms come from?
Starting point is 00:58:47 Patterson claims the food was bought from an Asian grocery store in Melbourne. Well, that's case close. I have to tell you what, I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese somehow managed to make a delightful soup out of this. My dad always says you can't eat the bloody Asian mushrooms because the Asian shit on them in the fields as fertilizer quote You pay extra for that an arrow one and I'm like what they all squat out the fields and they shit on it That's the real 82 year old
Starting point is 00:59:21 Okay, what's going on? I hope they don't do the same when they grow the rice. It's a Cambodian fellow with diarrhea and he shits down the trowel. Yeah. He thinks that he thinks that they shit on the mushrooms. And so someone's going to write to us calling his racist, bring it up. And then another person is going to say, they do shit on it. It's a fact. Uh, so she said that she bought it from this Asian grocery store, but she couldn't
Starting point is 00:59:42 remember what suburb, what the brand was, or provide proof of the purchase. What do you mean? What suburb? Okay. You don't have to remember what brand is, but what suburb, how many Asian supermarkets do you have? What? It's not a Coles, is it?
Starting point is 00:59:57 What town was it again? Leon Gatho. I think it was, but where's that near? Well, she's, but she's driven to Melbourne. She's, she's gone to Melbourne. She's in Melbourne, right? Okay, so then she says, she insists that she's never picked wild mushrooms. So they were store-bought.
Starting point is 01:00:11 That's what she says. Later on, however, photos emerged in the trial of mushrooms, the death cat mushrooms, being weighed on kitchen scales, which were later emerged as evidence. Patterson later admitted she lied about her foraging hobby. Because she was scared that her foraging for mushrooms hobby would incriminate her. Right, of course it would incriminate her, but I want to know more about this Asian supermarket.
Starting point is 01:00:39 So she admits to foraging now. She admits to foraging. So So, it was just foraging. So let's get this straight from the beginning. Did they not check her into like, fuck photos, just check this woman's internet search. I would bet my pension that she is, would, would have written, uh, what type of mushrooms can kill a person? What do these mushrooms look like? Where to find mushrooms that kill people, right?
Starting point is 01:01:06 You would imagine. Yeah. Or that's just, is that like a wives tale that's been passed down over the years? Like what the people use the internet? No, that, you know, that you can poison people with these mushrooms. Is that a commonly held thing? Oh, I can't say. Everyone knows that you can die from mushrooms as poisonous mushrooms. Everyone knows the same was. Well, then the only person who's been incriminated with her then was. Yeah, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't know which ones to look at.
Starting point is 01:01:31 No, no, no. I know what you're saying, but what I, what I mean is they have found her search history and it's just the recipe. And on news.com.au, the celebrity chef whose book was used has come out and apologized. Uh, who was it? The chef. Why don't you go to Gordon Ramsay? He's that's whose book was used has come out and apologized. Uh, who was it? The chef. Why don't you go to Gordon Ramsey? He's that's beef. Wellington's his signature. Well, this is again, I don't want to come down too harsh.
Starting point is 01:01:53 I mean, you got to kill these cunts. Why don't you give them the best beef? Wellington. You can give them. That was all I was wanting to say. You go with Gordon Ramsey, but instead it was Nagi Mahahashi. You don't go. That sounds like an Indian fella.
Starting point is 01:02:05 They don't know beef Wellingtons. It's a Japanese lady. Oh yeah. Well, Japanese ladies and Indian fellas very close. Okay. So it's a Japanese Japanese like the Japanese aren't known for their beef Wellingtons either. It's an English dish.
Starting point is 01:02:20 I still don't understand why anyone bothered to doorstop. This is the classic journalist hungry for any angle on a story whose door stopped and spoken to this chef and the chef has said this. It is upsetting to learn that one of my recipes, perhaps the one I spent more hours perfecting than another, something I created to bring joy and happiness, has been entangled in this tragic situation. I'm deeply sorry to the family. Other than that, I have nothing to say and I won't be talking any further. Please respect my privacy." Why the fuck was she asked? Yeah, no, it has nothing to do with it.
Starting point is 01:02:54 And you know the best, the thing about this is, it's the lead story and you can buy, and they've got a link here to buy her book. So now I'm thinking maybe this chef is fucking angling in. to buy her book. So now I'm thinking maybe this chef, et cetera. Now, if there was a comedy routine, someone heard of yours and that inspired them to go on some type of hateful killing spree. Would you be okay with that? If it sold you way more tickets? Because they would have find a reason to do the killing spree anyway. But they were what they're a big fan of mine. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Big fan. This is obviously a hypothetical. This isn't a fantasy world. You have a big fan. And, and so you have this big fan, this back, they, they, they, they, they, it is in his manifesto he's written the comedy of Amos Gill has, has driven me to do this. What do I go? I you're saying I call Andrew Taylor, our mutual manager and go, Andrew, we,
Starting point is 01:04:15 how do we make the most of this? Is that what you call that? Or are you deeply ashamed or do you go, they would have, if it wasn't me, they would have listened, I would go into hiding, but our manager would have already made a poster called the bad influence to it. No doubt about that. Absolute scum. Yeah. You'd be the showed.
Starting point is 01:04:35 We called man. He Festa. We'd have merch. It would be selling hats, which is I didn't do it, but my mate did. Something like that. I made him do it. I didn't do it, but I will do the routine. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Look, I think this story is so big around the world because we do think about, you know, poisoning as something that is Game of Thrones like. Right? Well, the problem with the poison is... Have you ever eaten food and even for a moment thought about... Because for a long time in human history, you did have to do that. To this day, there are, you know, world leaders who have people taste their food for them still. I still do that to my kids when they've got like fries and I want to have one.
Starting point is 01:05:27 I always snatch one off their plate and they go, what? Chicken is not poison for you. That's what I do because I'm a good dad. But like, you know, if you've thought of the people that you've gone to dine with who hate you, how many meals have you had with people who hate you? More than I know. I don't normally dine with people I know hate me. I assume these have to be secret haters.
Starting point is 01:05:50 There's not many people who hate me who have sat down for a meal. Imagine bringing this onto a cooking show. I once had food poisoning so bad I thought I was going to die. And that was from the first day I got to America and I went into a restaurant, literally the first day I got here. I'd been here for a few trips before, but to come here to move. And I went into a cafe that is, uh, near universal studios, near the Oakwood apartments where I was staying and this cafe, I had a breakfast burritos and one of the, and I haven't seen it before since one of them was a corn beef hash
Starting point is 01:06:23 breakfast burrito. And I went, Oh, that sounds like something American. Oh, give that a go. Right. And I went, I have a corn beef hash. This thing must've had fur on the meat and must've been sitting in a tin that was just wedged open from weeks ago. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:06:38 It was my whole, I think my hemorrhoids are as bad as they are now because of that day, right? I, it ripped through my body. There was blood coming out my stomach, blood coming out my ass. I was vomiting and shitting at the same time. I was sitting on a toilet and vomiting into the bath tub at exactly the same time. I had just been signed by CAA and my reps were like, Hey, we're all going to come and meet you for lunch.
Starting point is 01:07:01 You're our new client. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And I was like, I'm too sick. I can't come out. And then like my new, my new agent, Joanna Scott had to come out and bring me a modium. This is the first time with her hanging out with me in America. That was my first interaction with my agents was bring me a modium.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Please. Listen, that's the American touch. Right. What I'm your agents, your agents are meant to do that. My point is going to be this, right? Food poisoning, which is poison, which has got the name poison in it is fucking painful and you're shitting and vomiting that they just fall into a sleep. Did the poison like that?
Starting point is 01:07:38 No, I think it took him three days to die. Right. And so the liver gives out. They would have died horrendously, horrendously. And I imagine she would have been sitting at home like, Oh, I thought it wouldn't take so long to be honest. Why she wouldn't you think she wanted him just to drop dead there? Well, that's what a side.
Starting point is 01:07:57 When you, when you see movies, people get poisoned and they go like that. That's not what happens. You fucking your insides want to be your outsides and you fucking everything that's in you fucking leaves. Well, that's the other thing is if you stab someone within 10 minutes or a minute, you can look at their body and you're like, Oh my fucking God, what have I done? It's a crime of passion. When you've got three days, does it any point do you go, I regret this and I'm going to
Starting point is 01:08:27 go to the hospital and say exactly what it is. So you can try and get my eye. I reckon you give them something to help them vomit. So to get to get rid of all the stuff and you give them some emotium. Because remember that was a big plot line in a year. Did you watch white lotus? You don't like white lotus because the father was going to poison his kids at the end of white lotus because of them, because because they're poor.
Starting point is 01:08:47 But yeah, I don't think anyone I've ever I've never heard of a case of poisoning again by some fucking suburban Australian mum. And if you were to kill a person. What do you think is the best way to get away with it? Um, well, I'd probably I'm just doing this to save people in the future. What's my best way? So poisoning is not it. Maybe, maybe you say it's poisoning.
Starting point is 01:09:13 I think the best way to do it is to kill a stranger. I think it would be proper for me to the best way would be to, uh, get a job working for Israeli intelligence and then kill people in broad daylight and have the US government cover it up. All right. And that brings us to the end of the podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, before we do that, we have Alyssa from the snake. All right, ladies and gentlemen, I present to you Alyssa from the snake.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Hello. How are you? Hi, I'm great, Tim. How are you? Thanks for being on the podcast. Me and Amos appreciate it. Um, okay. So let's, let's get down to it. You're the snake this week. You won the award by the award, the plastic medallion award. I've said to them, if they make another season, they have to make a better quality medallion. Like this medallion is not great but you won it by just sitting down to have a dinner I know and that's the one brand for me because I love
Starting point is 01:10:12 dinner parties and I love drinking and I was definitely drinking and having fun and then I turned out being the snake so it was so perfect I think they edited you quite nicely because when I showed up for the dinner party you had had a few drinks they did they did they did dinner party, you had had a few drinks. They did. They did. They did show you downing a few wines there. They went Chuck, Chuck, Chuck, Chuck, Chuck, Chuck. And then I think it was Brian was like, not Brian.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Um, uh, Derek was like, Oh, some people have had a bit too much to drink and you were, you were checking them out. But I remember that day. Um, because when I showed up, I was there in a tuxedo and I never really knew too much of what was going on. I've been enjoying watching the episodes because I don't know about the behind the scenes. I only know about when I was there.
Starting point is 01:10:51 I knew about the saving ceremonies and I knew about the challenges and I didn't know about anything in between. And I showed up and everyone didn't like when I show up because I was like an angel of darkness. So I was always like, and now you gotta eat a bug and now you gotta swim through fish cuts. and you were drunk and you just looked at me and you went. What
Starting point is 01:11:12 I remember, Jen. And I was like, Oh, I'm not here to do anything. And so, so the producers always had me, whenever I asked questions, I always had to work in people's occupations. Like how is working as a detective helping you out in this scene? How is being a, a, a, a nonprofit. It was always weird with nonprofit detective cop priest. It was very helpful, but I had to say to you, I said, how is working as an
Starting point is 01:11:38 only fans creator helped you win this challenge and you gave, do you remember your answer? I remember I said, I know my lighting, I know my angles, and I picked the best seat at the table. And it ended up being the best seat because I ended up being the snake. Yeah, you picked the table where you thought you'd look the best. Yeah, I was, all the cameras are pointing here and I can see everyone. They could see me like, this is the best seat. And it was. There's an obvious reason that all the cameras were pointing there. They wanted to get the snake.
Starting point is 01:12:05 So you actually called it. Cool. So, so arguably, and I'm not trying to be ugly vanity, but one knew this award. Right. And so, so you go, go and get it. So, so you lift up, go under the plates, lift up your plates, ladies and gentlemen, lift up your plates underneath. You'll find a snake symbol and everyone, oh no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:12:26 You stared at your plate for what seemed like minutes before someone. I didn't know I was the snake. What did you think was the emblem underneath? I thought it was like an octopus. Like it did not look like a snake. And I was like, Jordan, is this a snake? And she's like, Alyssa, you're the snake. And I'm like, I'm the snake.
Starting point is 01:12:42 I had no idea. Alyssa, we spoke to last time, Jimmy, we were talking to a dual thief and so we spoke about a career of stealing from what were safes and whatnot with our man. Now you're an OnlyFans creator at the zenith of OnlyFans. I wanted to ask you something. In Australia, we've got a girl called Annie Knight who's famous for sleeping with 580 men Then there's this Bonnie blue lady who just got kicked off only fans Is there a pressure as an only fans created now to get way too extreme? And are you happy you've gone on reality TV instead of doing what they've had to do So there's definitely a pressure with only fans the more you post the more you make but you have to know your limits and I know
Starting point is 01:13:22 My limits and definitely going on reality TV, I'm getting so many opportunities and probably going to shut down the only fans page soon, but I'm going to keep it up for the show, but there's definitely a lot of pressure and I'm just so happy this opportunity to be on reality TV and everything that comes with it. And are you enjoying the little bump in notoriety or fame or whatever we call it? Have you, have you seen an increase in subscriptions? Have you been noticed on the street a bit more? Yeah, no, people come up to me and they're like, Oh, you're on the sneak.
Starting point is 01:13:51 And I'm going on all these podcasts. I'm actually making my own podcast with Frankie. It's in the works. So let's talk, you and Frankie from the get go, it seemed like episode one. It seemed like episode one straight into being besties. I don't think they showed up, but you always called each other Ken and Barbie. I don't recall an episode. I can't talk about future episodes, but I can't recall when you were both on the show, one of you not saving the other. You always saved the other. You always had each other in the
Starting point is 01:14:21 back pocket. Now that I can see the episodes, I can see the game that Frankie's playing. He, and it's not really a game as such, but he's doing all the girls makeup. He's helping them out with their hair and all that type of stuff. Of course he's going to be everyone's favorite in the house. Did that play into it? Or you just think he was just a great, genuine guy and that was, that was how it worked. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:14:43 It's just like the best person I met in the world. Like that was the best part of going on the show. The snake is meeting Frankie. He's just such a genuine kind person and he did do everyone's hair and makeup, but he knew like to do my hair and makeup first because we were besties from the start. So you, you win this night, you go into the snake, then you got your own bedroom for, for, for the night. And everybody starts sucking up to you.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Now, Katherine comes in and says, uh, oh, we should separate the boys. We should separate the boys. Then from what I see on the show and correct me if you were there, um, Jacob was telling the truth. He said, Katherine was saying that this would happen. Jacob and Derek were telling the truth. He said, Catherine was saying that this would happen. Jacob and Derek were telling the truth. Catherine was lying. That said Devante and Jack into a complete, not a spiral where they all went up into
Starting point is 01:15:33 the snakes den and a big yelling match. Now, how did that look from your angle? Cause it looked like you and Frankie were just like, we were just trying to have a fucking chat. We were like, what is going on? Like we don't care. Like I was a snake, so I was safe. And so was Frankie.
Starting point is 01:15:47 We're like, we're going to let them all figure out their problems. But Jacob was telling the truth and I love Jacob. Like to this day, I always FaceTime him and call him. And I wish he didn't like back out of the game because honestly, I didn't know who I was going to save Zarek or Jacob, but Catherine was lying and so was Jack. And me and Frankie kind of knew that they were lying. And Jordan was like, no, like Catherine's not lying. Like I trust Catherine and me and Frankie were like, no, like, I think we
Starting point is 01:16:11 trust Jacob and Zarek more. So it was like kind of crazy like to watch the episode and like see that Jack was lying and Catherine was just trying to play everybody. And watching the four episodes you've already seen. Yeah. You haven't seen past then. Uh, okay. What's, what's your take on Katherine?
Starting point is 01:16:30 Because everyone's like, you see, you see Jack in this episode go, I trust. I don't think that Katherine is capable of lying is what he said. Now I'm not saying Katherine's a bad person. I like Katherine is a show and it's a game show and it's and she's playing a game. Right within the confines of the game. She was lying. What did any of this surprise you watching it back? Yes, like when I first saw Catherine the first episode, I was like, who is this innocent little sweet girl like she's
Starting point is 01:16:59 going to be so sweet and now watching it back like she came with a plan and a strategy and it was kind of herfall, like the way she played the game and like lied and manipulated because you'll see in this episode, like everyone turns on her and like she's, everyone starts to see her true colors, but I think she surprised us all because we just thought she was a little sweet, innocent girl from Georgia. But she came with a plan and she was right. Cause God's going to watch you burn. I can't believe she said that.
Starting point is 01:17:26 I wasn't there for that part, but she's crazy. All right. So, uh, you keep me in touch with the rest of the cast. Yes. I, we talk everyone, but Kayleigh, honestly, but yeah, I'm really close with all of them. Jacob, I always like text Jacob, like almost every day. He's so sweet. And I think this is going to be a hard episode for him to watch. Just because everyone in the house kind of was
Starting point is 01:17:49 mean to him, but I really like Jacob. Just so, so, so there's a very close personal connection between a priest and an OnlyFans model. That's everything good in the world. I like that. That's the inclusive pastor. Well, that is, that is that's sort of the modern version of Jesus, isn't it? Maybe. Oh yes, they always start washing some feet. Last episode, the episode before this one, he brought a tear to your eye when he said that he defended you to Caley. He did defend me and C Kylie, when I first,
Starting point is 01:18:26 the first time I like walked in the house, Kylie ran up to me and was like, I was talking so much about you on the dinner party. And then I didn't really see that until last episode when Jacob defended me and he told me in person that he defended me. And I just, he was like such a sweetheart because I would have never thought of everyone in the house.
Starting point is 01:18:41 He would have defended me before he even met me. So that was just really like sentimental to see. And you obviously didn't see that footage until you saw that footage. So you had to take his word for it. Who has surprised you on the show? The most, I guess. Like watching it back, who do you think is like a different person? Or who do you think that maybe you didn't give a fair go to until you've watched the episodes? I guess definitely Catherine surprised me the most just because I thought she was this innocent girl and she came to play.
Starting point is 01:19:16 Um, but everyone else, I kind of like saw their true colors, like as I lived with them and the days went on. Now you have some challenges coming up and I can't get too into them, but I will say go to the gym, go to the gym, go to the gym. I'm not just saying, go to the gym, go to the gym, go to the gym. I'm not just saying, go to the gym, go to the gym, go to the gym. I'm not just saying, go to the gym, go to the gym, go to the gym. I'm not just saying, go to the gym, go to the gym, go to the gym. I'm not just saying, go to the gym, go to the gym, go to the gym. I'm not just saying, go to the gym, go to the gym, go to the gym.
Starting point is 01:19:40 I'm not just saying, go to the gym, go to the gym, go to the gym. I'm not just saying, go to the gym, go to the gym, go to the gym. I'm not just saying, go to the gym, bug challenge where you, you didn't quit. And you were in there with it. Not only did you not quit, you, you were out of, and I'm not just saying girls, I'm saying out of all the competitors, you were the calmest in the whole thing. I really think it was because Derek was my partner and I knew how bad Derek wanted to win. So I really had to prove myself. And Derek was like, Alyssa, like just imagine it's a cockroach facial. I'm like, you're right. Derek, that's a good mindset to win. So I really had to prove myself. And Zarek was like, listen, like, just imagine it's a cockroach facial. I'm like, you're right, Zarek. That's a good mindset to have.
Starting point is 01:20:08 A cockroach facial. There's a porn I'm trying to watch. Cockroach facial. Just take the word roach out of that. How does this movie end with a cockroach facial? Yeah. And you've got one coming up where you swim through some fairly disgusting stuff coming up. I think that's the next episode. It might be the episode after.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Then you got another one where you're jumping across things. I was like, you will always game. You always, uh, fun to have around. And I liked the company when I saw it, even if you didn't like mine. Um, yeah, you, you, you were the, probably the person who disliked me the most when I showed up apart from Cody. Oh yeah. Cody couldn't stand me every time.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Every time I made a joke, because he's like this, why is he picking on me? Why was that? Why was that? Why was that? Why was that? Big accent and like, you're not from Australia. Oh, he thought I made it up. Yeah. He's like, that's a fake accent. He's definitely not from there.
Starting point is 01:21:13 He doesn't seem like your demographic gym, to be honest. What? What you don't think you don't think I, but he, he's led you played brokeback mountain. Oh, that's his type. I'm telling you, a cowboy is not the other way, but yeah, you, no, he wasn't Cody. In fact, we asked Cody to be on the podcast. We were going to have him and Brian cause they both eliminated and Cody gave us a firm no, he did not want to hang out with the host. Are you shitting me?
Starting point is 01:21:39 He said, maybe I'll go on different one. I don't want to go along with Jim. Fuck it. Yeah. Um, how do you think, uh, Christina was being treated? Cause I always felt sorry for her. I always felt like because she came in late, not that she was teamed up against, but she always felt like she was on the outside.
Starting point is 01:21:58 I mean, I liked Christina. I never had a problem with her, but I think everyone in the house just thought she would just turn on the waterworks and then turn them off. And they thought she would just fake cry and she was the fake person and like, no one could trust her. And that's why no one really talked to her. I mean, I talked to her, but she wasn't my best friend on the show. I thought there was a lot of fake tea.
Starting point is 01:22:17 So first, first episode elimination, the snakes Catherine, she was crying next to me. I look, I thought I could spot when women were fake crying. And I look back on it like this, that it took about an hour and a half to record that first one, two hours to record that first one, because we were getting all the nuts and bolts of how the show worked and all type of stuff. So there's a lot of like stopping and starting with the record. She cried for at least an hour. A while. Did you think it was fake at the time?
Starting point is 01:22:51 No, I thought it was real. And the first episode on like deep breath, like you got it. Cause I thought there were real tears and I felt bad. You're all doing the hurts. No, I think they were fake. No, no, no, they were definitely fake. Would you do the show again? Everyone asked me that. And if I knew what I was doing, if they told me like these were all the challenges, no way I would have never signed up for it, but I'm really glad I did.
Starting point is 01:23:16 But if I knew what I was doing, no way. Would you, would you tell others to do the show? I think you have to have really tough skin and you have to be a little crazy in the head to go on season two of the show knowing what we do now. And just before we wrap up, Alyssa, the topic of our show for the day, we thought we'd get, we're not American, Jim and I, so we like to talk about your country, but we can't, you know, we're just passersby. Well, Jim's an American, actually.
Starting point is 01:23:42 Yeah, I'm an American citizen. I would like to say that I'm a proud American. As a heritage American, Alyssa. This guy here is trying to get his new work visa. So look at his jumper. The USA. It's only got about 15 stars to cover the States. It's from like, it's from about 200 years ago.
Starting point is 01:23:59 From a time I like. And the thing I'd like to ask you, Alyssa, is do you think Jeffrey Epstein killed himself? No, I think he's still alive. That's what I'm talking about. Alive or sore. Yes. He's definitely alive and he's probably currently drinking with Diddy to celebrate.
Starting point is 01:24:21 Yeah. Anyway. Well, Alyssa, I love having you on the podcast. Hopefully we can talk again soon. You were always a great support on the show and I enjoyed your company. You've been a good support now. Thanks for being on the show, Alyssa. Thanks, Tim, for having me.
Starting point is 01:24:35 All right, everyone. That was Alyssa from The Snake. Thank you for listening. Come and see us on tour. We're going to be touring Europe right now. We'd like to see you out there. Uh, apart from that this, uh, next week coming up, I will be in Hawaii. I will be in Maui and I will be in Honolulu. And one of those gigs, I can't remember, which is almost sold out.
Starting point is 01:24:57 So get your tickets to see me in Hawaii. Go to Jim Jeffries.com. Looking forward to seeing you then. Amos. Good night. Australia.

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