I Don't Know About That - ATM: Episode 20 - ICE Raids on White Immigrants

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

At this moment Jim and Amos riff on what ICE raids on white immigrants would be like, what would be on their Mt. Rushmore for Australians, Emmanuelle Macron's wife's potential genitalia, and ideas for new Barbies. Pastor Jacob from the Snake joins the podcast to talk about the most recent episode! Watch THE SNAKE on FOX Tuesdays at 9pm ET/8pm CT and available the next day on Hulu. AD: QUINCE - Go to http://www.quince.com/ATM for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns.  SOCIALS: Jim Jefferies Website: https://www.jimjefferies.com IG: https://www.instagram.com/jimjefferies FB: https://www.facebook.com/JimJefferies Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimjefferies Amos Gill IG: @abitofamosgill FB: https://www.facebook.com/AmosGillComedy/ Incidental music by the Doohickeys

This episode is brought to you by Quince. Stick to stables that last with elevated essentials from Quince. Go to quince.com slash ATM for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. That's quince.com slash ATM get free shipping and 365 day returns quince.com slash ATM. Hello everyone. Hi, this is Jim Jefferies. I'm here with Amos Gill, welcome to the At This Moment podcast.

Today we are going to be talking about Barbie having diabetes, we're going to talk about President's wives having cocks, we're going to talk about Amos Gill having, well, problems. What else have we got? We're also talking about the new rule in airports that have made things a lot easier to travel around but is it a security threat? And we're also going to speak to Pastor Jacob from the snake that'll be at the end of the show. If you want to catch us on tour go to JimJeffreys.com. I am touring all over the UK, all over Europe. It's something like 60 cities so if you live in Europe

or the UK check it out I'm probably's something like 60 cities. So if you live in Europe or the UK, check it out. I'm probably coming to a town near you. Tickets are going fast. I'm not bullshitting about that. They are actually going fast. So try to get your tickets now. Amos is going to be opening up for me across Europe, not across UK. In the UK, I'll be having Glenn Wall and Andrew Maxwell. But I think Amos will be with us for a few of them. You might even get up on stage. Oh, can you just settle this for us now? Because I was otherwise I'll have to text you. Am I doing Belfast? Is that Europe? Is that UK? It's technically UK, but it's kind of them. You might even get up on stage. Oh, can you just settle this for us now? Because otherwise I'll have to text you. Am I doing Belfast? Is that Europe? Is that UK?

It's technically UK, but it's kind of Europe. What are we doing? I actually need to text someone about that right now. Are we doing are we doing regular Ireland before that? No. Whoever's doing regular Ireland gets Belfast. That would probably be the way I would go. I think that's me, because that's the euro. All right. Well, OK.

Or Maxwell. I don't know. Let's start the podcast. No cause that's the Euro. All right. Well, okay. Or Maxwell could go, I don't know. Cause he's Irish. Let's start the podcast. No, no, let me pitch something quickly. Come to see me in Montreal and Edinburgh. But also I had so many people in Chicago this week who listened to our podcast. Okay. That's the first time that's ever happened.

Okay. So thank you. Some people actually seem to enjoy this. Oh, good, good. I was as shocked as the next man. Good, good. It's someone, it's good to have someone listening. Who's not your mum.

Who doesn't listen. Hello everybody. Welcome to At This Moment with Jim Jefferies and Amos Gill. Very good. That was wonderful. That worked out really good. You're still in your, is that your father-in-law's office?

It is. In fact, I said I need somewhere to do the podcast today and he sent his youngest child in to check the desk if I was giving away any there's a few things about the company there's a few pictures of family in the background but what I like is the box of stuff like someone has left a cubicle job and they've just come home to your other side where's that oh yeah I don't know I don't know what that's an electronic drum set oh that's good that's good when you come in here do a bit of reggae after you've done some

steelwork but my my son's going to see Oasis with me come in here, do a bit of reggae after you've done some steelwork. My son's going to see Oasis with me and he's been watching a lot of Oasis clips and he's asked to play the guitar. And so I get, Jack's taught him a few chords. And I said, I said, Hank, if you can do four chords and you can do them seamlessly, move between them really seamlessly, I'll buy you electric guitar. What an incentive that is. I don't remember my dad saying he'd buy me anything.

My dad would go, if you do this really hard, I'll let you work at McDonald's. Like, you know, what's really nice about being here on this desk is I got him a present last year and it's actually on the desk. Oh, what is it? What's the present? I'll show you. I got his face and put it on Mount Rushmore. The presidents.

Really? Where did you? Okay. There he is in the middle there. Where, where did, who makes those? Where did you find someone who makes those? It's called art mellows. Okay. So we were, we were making fun of him saying that he thinks he's, you know,

he's like a president and we're like, he can, if you don't listen to the podcast regularly, uh, Amos, his father-in-law soon to be father-in-law is a German. Um, shouldn't he be on the route Mount Rushmore of Germans, not Americans. Okay. Who gets on the Mount Rushmore Germans? We got, uh, Michael, Michael Ballack, right? Michael Ballack.

Yeah. I mean, say what you will about Hitler, but it did more than Michael Ballack. No, I, I look, I haven't in my sports card collection. I haven't got a Hitler. You know what I mean? I have got a Ballack anyway. So, so who else you got? And even ballot, you wouldn't go with you go Bastion Schweinsteiger or

Franz Beckenbauer before you do that. Jeez, that's disrespectful. We're going to go, do we go with the Kaiser? Which Kaiser? The role or the, or the Kaiser roll gets up there with the bratwurst, the bratwurst, the Kaiser roll, Michael Barlich, Hitler, and your father-in-law. Yeah. Oh, there's a, there's what's his name as well.

Uh, Otto von Bismarck Bismarck gets a go. Yeah. He gets to go. I, there's a glaring, there's obviously one guy that was chiseled off. How about the red Baron? The red Baron. Yeah, it's hard, but you'd have to put him on with a plan. Just a woman with an infected vagina.

What about Australia? Where, where, if Australia had one, it would be on airs rock, but that'd be. Oh yeah. But you couldn't, you couldn't climb it because the average was believe it's a church or something, although I haven't seen one of them prayer at the front of it. And as I've always said, you can step on Westminster Abbey all you want. I'm not going to get offended. What if we said to the indigenous people of Australia, you can do Mount Rushmore on Uluru by like indigenous people only.

Right. Yeah. You could do that. Yeah. The Freeman gets up there or something like that. You do like, yeah, you do like put goods, Patty Mills, Lionel Rose. It's got it can't just be athlete because Eddie Betts, Andrew McLeod, it is a lot of athletes. Bernie Ernie Dingo could go to any. You know, they're all up there.

You can do a good you can do a good. I think it's one of America's best things is the Mount Rushmore. I like that there's some weird statistic. It's like it's not super high, but it's like three or 4% of Americans think it's from natural erosion. That like, yes, it's like a thing where they think it rained and then it eroded out. The thing about Mount Rushmore is when you see it, when you see those videos of it being built, right.

And it's just like, they put a dynamite stick in some hole and then boom. And then it's like, Oh, Lincoln has a nose now. It's, it's pretty amazing how they did it. I know. Like we would never do anything like that ever again. I know the American Indians don't like it because it's, oh, it's, you know, it's, it's one of the Dakotas, right? One of the Dakotas. Yeah.

It's one of the Dakotas and, um, they don't, they don't like it because it's meant to be, you know, same thing as, as rocks and Aboriginal. It is astonishing to me that Trump hasn't tried to put himself on there. Well, you got to wait till you're done. I would have, he would never want to wait until he's just him just holding his ear, just like that at the end. Oh, you know what I think I would like? I would like the other end. I just have Biden asleep.

Everyone else is in their heyday. And then Biden is going, who are these other guys? Who are they? I want them to transcribe the Epstein client list. We chiseled in. There's no mountain big enough. You'd need Everest. Yeah.

At the top of Everest, you just see Trump at the very little peak, a little tiny print. He's like, I did disclose it. We chisel it in Everest. All right. That when he went, when he goes, I don't know why we're worrying about, we talked about this in the last podcast. I can't keep going on. What is it?

What topics have we got for us today? Well, I thought I'd start off by pointing out what date is today. It's July 14th. So, uh, Bonjour to our French. It's Bastille day today. Do you know when we come to Paris to do the shows coming up, if you're in Gay Paris, this would be my first time performing in France. Everywhere else across Europe, I was taught because the promoters in France, because you know, there's always been that thing with comedy in France, they like Jerry Lewis, and they like silly things. That's always been the stereotype. comedy in France, they like Jerry Lewis and they like silly things. And that's always been the stereotype. You love clowning. Yeah.

They like clowning and mimes and all that type of stuff. Right. And so they go, Oh, do you come with the, would never work in a party. Uh, people do not like the filth that is coming out of your mouth. That type of thing, right? We put the tickets on sale. The Paris show is selling like hot cakes. The, the, the, the young Parisians have been wanting this type of stuff for a while.

And all they've been given is stripy shirt, fucking mimes. Yeah. That was a big, the big mime has been holding comedians back for a long time. Oh, all, um, all I used to do just for laughs when you did just for laughs. There was the French week and I watched it. Yeah. And the French comedian, I did not need to know what they were saying to know it is legit. They're always like this. the the black box. Why do they not make the whole plane out of black box? Whoa. Whoa. I've not been as entertained by you as I have been right now in a long time. So, yeah, no, nor is anyone. That's my closing spot for the new tour.

We like you to be a little bit more engaging like you've been now. This is if you like that, check out and check out the tour because there's going to be more of that. That's I'll be doing that in. I'll be doing that in Germany and in France, I'll be doing good and dark material. I'm going to swap it all around. And then in Croatia, I'm just going to make you sit on a chair next to me. Like Madge Alsop for Barry Humphrey's Day Mender Average.

Now he's bridesmaid used to sit in a chair just so I can aggrate shape myself with other roundheaded people from your country. All right. You're going to, you're going to keep me there as an uncle Slav. Yeah. As he mock our people. Yeah. He's enjoying it.

Look. Yeah. So it's Bastille day. So great to see you all. Bastille day is a, I thought we'd go with a little bit of French flair for the day. There's a few French. Uh, number, Number one. Like I know you can't smoke outdoors anymore in France. That's it.

We discussed that last time. That's very, very sad. I think the biggest problem with that is more French people living longer. True that. Yeah. Yeah. More paraphrasing. And more bitter.

If you think they're in a bad mood before. Oh, and like you don't know the language. True that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah more prefer and more bitter if you think they're in a bad way before Oh Like you don't know the language you Zenitines are done used to smoke and then go out the pitch and headbutt people those were the days That's when France was at its best anyway, carry on So I thought would I ask you, you know, but still days all about obviously this is in the French Revolution They stormed the Bastille where the political prisoners are kept There's only seven in there.

Not long after Marie Antoinette, and I've always found this interesting. Marie Antoinette, famous phrase. Let them eat cake. Let them eat cake, which was to say the poor people are starving. They kept saying they've got no bread. The price of bread is out of control, which is kind of mirrors our time, price of food. And she says, let them cake. And what I find- In America, that would just be bread.

Well, this is what I find fascinating is in the end, Marie Antoinette was correct because the economy we have today is that poor people are fed cake at a far cheaper rate than bread. So if she'd lived long enough, she actually did envision big food in a massive populace and the way that calories would be distributed. If you think about it. It's a four, like when people say it's a cost of living crisis, of course it is,

but it's a cost of living world crisis. Cause if you go to a supermarket anywhere in America, you can get a mud cake with enough calories for a week for like four bucks. And you can live off that. And they killed that bitch for saying that. Yeah. Are they?

Yeah. And she was right. She taught us about radiation to do that too. It was unbelievable. Let them eat cake. I always think, I used to think about that as a kid when they go, and then she said, let them eat cake. And as a kid, you're like, geez, that's all right.

I'm not even allowed to eat cake. I never get cake in America. Yeah. Let them eat doughnuts. But the bread is legally cake here as well. As you were saying, yeah, it's filled with sugar. The America, that was subway. America's can't fuck. Okay. With the bread, they don't know what they're doing because they, they, they can make good bread. They have it within them to do it. Australian bed's the best bread by none.

I'm thinking of moving to Australia just for the bread. But, um, with the American bread, they seem to add sugar to it or something. Cause they can make good bread because they make good bagels and they make good pizza bases. Yeah. But they want them. If they want things to last a long time, that's their problem. I don't need things to last.

I don't need a lot of things to last a long time. Just if I can give it to, I love when you, you, you get a loaf of bread and it's got mold on it. That's a good sign for me. I remember when I bought my first, some bread and milk from America. And then I went on like a, you know, three day, four day, uh, weekends where the gigs and I came back and my bread and my milk was still all right. And I was like, there's something wrong with this. That's why I always find it funny when Americans are like, Oh, what about those weirdos who are prepping those preppers? And it's like your whole pantry is for prepping.

Even your standard food is prepping. It should, it should go off like immediately, but then again, if you go to the European way, like my Croatian granddad walks to the market every day to buy bread. And that seems like too much, you know, what, what, what do you, my mother, my mother on the way home day to buy bread. And that seems like too much, you know, what, what, what do you my mother, my mother on the way home from school every day, we stopped for milk and bread every day. Family of five, one loaf of bread, one, two liters of milk every day. That doesn't vibe with how lazy everyone is today.

I'm so old. We had a milkman. We had a bloke. I've always thought that was weird. There was one bit of produce that was delivered individually. Then like you, by that rationale, you should have an egg man. No, apparently there was a meat man back in the day. And I'm not, this is not a porno joke.

I think there was a man in the, I think it was in the UK. Let me look this up. There was like a van that would go around meat van, man. No, you're thinking of Tom stage routine about the meat truck. I am thinking about Tom stage meat truck routine. Is that not real? That's not real. That's a guy selling meat at the markets.

That's not a guy who delivers meat door to door. This is the problem. I remember things that are, that's just, that's just, that's just shonky. British people driving up on the side of the road and trying to sell things. When I was in Britain, I was once just, this happened like several times. Actually, this is one of the things like you drive up a white van stops next to you, the door goes next to you. You're walking on the street.

You think you're about to be pulled in and kidnapped. And then a bloke's like, do you want some speakers? Like this, right? I'm like, what he goes, look, a box of speakers here. You want speakers? Nah, I don't like speakers with the door and off the fucking van goes. Right. I will say that the ice cream truck also was, you know, they played the music.

They brought shit in the neighborhood. No other cuisine. We've gone into the era of the food truck, but no one has ever really brought it the way the ice cream. Okay. The ice is the music. Mr. Whippy was a real thing that you needed to do because to have, you

can't have soft serve at home. It can only be delivered by truck. You can't buy it at the supermarket. It has to be in the machine. It has to be ready to go. McDonald's slightly fucked over. Mr. Wippy, a little bit, but what is the theme song of the Mr. Wippy truck going across Australia? What's the song that we get? I don't know. What is it? Green sleeves. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, now my three year old nephew in, if you play that song on your phone, sleeves. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, sometimes you'll see like, like one of those trucks go by the ice cream trucks that, you know, that with all the Mexican ice creams on it, that

looks like that, it does look like there's someone being trafficked in that one. That truck, that truck is a creepy looking truck that goes, no windows in that ice cream. Yeah. It's a thing of Horace. There's ice in there, but that's cause there's organs being kept in the pack. There's ice in there, but that's because there's organs being kept in the pack. Yeah.

The ice cream is to distract the ice from coming to get them. No, that would be a good way. That's Donald Trump. That's the sneakiest way of getting rid of his, uh, his Mexicans is he has an ice van and then he goes cream and then the Mexicans run out to get a frozen dessert. At the last second, they to get a frozen dessert. The last second they're caught with a net. Now me and you know, a couple of Australians who have overstayed their visas. Do we not? We probably do.

Right. Not that, not that tell us, but we know a few British comics and stuff like that. We know a few that probably overstayed it. I just want to see one of those kinds getting tackled. If that happens and I'm all for the ice trades, if I just see one Swedish backpacker being dragged along by her big blonde platts through the street. Just going to Alcatraz. This big titted blonde. She was a real threat.

You know, there's a lot of whores here in America. I was going to set up an only fans and we can't do that to the girls in Miami. He was taking the work, taking the work. She was sucking the dicks in Manhattan. And frankly, there's American males that can take the G's. We got to protect American gold diggers. All right. So bestil my beating heart. What did you have to speak about France?

What's going on? Well, I was going to talk about one of these very conspiracy adjacent topics, right? Which is for whatever reason, there's an obsession. You're about to go full, full Q and I know you just when you start saying this is conspiracy theory adjacent and you start doing I met a bloke recently that was going on.

I was in a car. I'll just before you start. I was in a car and the guys like this he goes do you like baseball? I've been in this country for a while you like baseball and he goes there's something you need to see and then he showed the Diamond and then he flipped the diamond upside down and he goes it's the same symbol as the Masons You know how the Masons have that thing like that and it goes with this He goes it was designed by the Masons and like even if it was designed by the Masons have that thing like that and it goes with this. He goes, it was designed by the Masons. And like, even if it was designed by the Masons, who gives a fuck, right? Who gives a fuck?

And he goes, he goes, I don't know. I got a friend. He's into crazy things, but this one seems to be true. He's always got a friend who that's what all conspiracy theorists need is one friend who's crazier to make you feel good about yourself. And that's why we do this podcast together. So, so what, what, what have you got? You've always had that.

You've always had one friend. It's like you've had Steve Hughes before. And now I've come along as your millennial conspiracy. Steve Hughes is my conspiracy theorist that I live with. Yeah. And now I've got you the younger one. I'm going well rounded.

I actually got sent a series of videos the other day about Disney imagery and how there's, it's all about hunting children in Disney and I couldn't, I couldn't go down that path. I was trying to write comedy. I've heard this about there's tunnels underneath Disneyland that they're taking the kids to Mexico and they're shipping them off. I've heard all this rubbish, right? That being said, if they don't start releasing the client list of Epstein,

this only fuels these things. Let's be real. I'm just saying they're not shipping kids from America to Mexico. They have their own kids, their own kids. They don't need American product to go down there to sex traffic. They've got their own ones. They're doing fine from farm worker to table. So this story I want to discuss is this bizarre.

Jack shook his head so disappointed. From one of the weird corners of the Internet is that world leaders wives have is this bizarre. Jack shook his head so disappointed. It was funny. One of the weird corners of the internet is that world leaders wives have cocks. Right. Yeah. Oh yes. I know about this. Okay.

So, so, so, well, okay. So let's go through Michelle Obama. Everyone says she has a big mic. Yeah. She has a penis. She has a penis. She has a penis. And then people go, people will go, you've seen the bulge, haven't you haven't you seen the bulge. I've also seen two daughters that look exactly like her

You know what I mean? Like I don't I'm not gonna even say I don't think Michelle Obama has a dick I'm gonna say Michelle Obama was a woman. She's still a woman and congratulations to her for that. Good work Good, right you throw your red meat out there to your woke base. Fine. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a left wing shill. I'm not going down. I don't reckon there was anything in the deleted emails about it either. Okay.

Carry on. I'm not going down the path of Michelle, but one that has crept on the internet over the last couple of years is about Brigitte Macron. This is Emmanuel Macron's wife. Now, wasn't she his teacher or something? Before we even get into the is she a dude topic that's dominating the court cases of France right now, she's a 40 year old school teacher when he is 14, when they begin their relationship.

So already that way, that's the beginning a sexual relationship when they met each other, when they met each other. No, I believe the grooming began at that point. Okay. But you also have to understand that it's France and they're completely different. They're watching mimes. They watch mimes. Yeah.

She was introduced to you. Because if they say anything, they might incriminate themselves. Yeah, that's it. They start, they start the process of teaching kids to not talk very young. Yeah. The police are like this. I need to speak to you. I'm in a box.

Every time the French elites rape a kid, they put him in a stripy shirt and go, now you know the rules. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, they're not the stripy shirts. They're just escaped prisoners. Scaling walls. That is why Polanski chose France.

He's like, yeah, they don't talk. Yeah. No, no, no. Yeah. The French. Can I give you a quick conspiracy sidebar conspiracy of another conspiracy? A double. Okay.

Double conspiracy. So someone was talking about double on pole. Someone was talking about Roman Polanski and they were saying that he was the Jeffrey Epstein of the seventies and eighties and that at his Hollywood parties, he was, he was, you know, notoriously doing bad things. We remember at Jack Nicholson's spa bath and that they had a lot of parties. And then there's all this talk about Charles Manson and the family death squad that he had as being wiped by MKUltra and being a paramilitary unit of the CIA at the time, getting their brain fucked up on

the experiments in California. And that he came to kill Sharon Tate and the Polanskys in the same way they killed Jeffrey Epstein. It was one end closing off another end. And there's an interesting way of re-looking at that story. And Charles Manson could have brought this up at any given stage while he's been locked up in prison with a swastika in between his eyebrows. Yeah.

His brain got cooked for them. Any of the women who were in the family could have brought it up at any stage to defend themselves or they said to start health, the Skelter and to start a race. Right. They made the murders. They've been on records. They've said it a thousand times. Wouldn't it be good for them to go?

We were doing it to stop pedophiles. Wouldn't that be a better defense? They don't, they don't know. They're just tools of the CIA. That's why they got MK. Even if they didn't know, it feels like a good thing to make up on the spot. It feels like a good thing. Like now that they've listened to this podcast, one of them should be

ringing the cops up right now. I've got a new story for you. It was a good thing. Like now that they've listened to this podcast, one of them should be ringing the cops up right now. I've got a new story for you. It was a while ago. They still get in trouble for it. I I've been watching. I, do you ever go and watch videos? Manson's still alive, right? He, or he just died.

He's still alive. He's still alive. He's still alive. Is he still alive? I watched those videos where he's like, I roll the nickels. I run the dimes. Hey, you cut out then you cut out. Just do it again.

I roll the dickles, the roller dimes. No, he did in 2017, 2017, 2017, 2017, 2017. Look, this is, so he didn't get to see COVID. So this is what happened. I already started one conspiracy and now I'm down another dumber rabbit hole. So I've got to stay back on what's actually in the news right now. So some journalists had reached out and have always thought the relationship between those two was quite bizarre and that Brigitte Trognaud, as it was her

name before she married Macron, had groomed him, the relationship was not right. And they started to postulate that Brigitte Macron was actually born a man, Jean Michel Trucno, and had transitioned. And what they were saying, these French journalists. They did a good job. They did a good job. It looks convincing. Well done to the French. You think so? I think so. From male to female, she looks like a female to me. Don't you think she looks like a female? That, that well, I guess she's just very old. She's old.

She's old. None of them, none of them end up good. Like you can't, you know, I'll just cover my ass there. Men don't look great either. Carry on. And remember the slap had happened a couple of weeks ago, that big, forceful slap that hit Macron's face. These journalists had said that she was born a man, Jean-Michel, and then got rid of the name, got rid of the identity of Jean-Michel Trugneau, which was the

first lady's brother, was the true identity. And this fact has been hidden through a complex conspiracy. The two women alleged that Jean-Michel transitioned into Brigitte through a series of surgeries before marrying the future French president who is 25 years younger than his 72 year old wife. The Elise Palace filed a libel complaint and a lower court ruled in September of last year that the defendants owed Brigitte 8,000 in damages and 5,000 to her brother. Look, let's be honest.

If a woman's 25 years older than a older than you, and you have to have sex with her, who gives a fuck if she has a dick or not at that stage, 25 years is 25 years. Well, the vagina is much younger. You see, Oh, it was a new vagina. All right. Surgery. Did it have that new vagina smell?

Did it? So that's the case. He, everyone says Emmanuel, you're fucking this 72 year old woman. It's a surgery. Did it have that new vagina smell? Did it? Like it was ready to go? So if that's the case, everyone says, Emmanuel, you're fucking this 72 year old woman. He's like, Jack's looking at pictures of her right now just to make sure. So technically the vagina is actually in its 20s. Put your cock away. Jack's masturbating in front of me. Stop it, Jack. Stop it.

Okay. Give me, give me a look. I'll tell you where that used to be a woman. Okay. I'm look. I haven't you where that used to be. Well, okay. I'm look, I haven't even got to the news bit yet. Let me continue and you can give me your opinion. Okay.

So you're saying, let me finish and then, then you can give your take at the end here. So she's seeking libel and defamation from these, right? For a rage, be honest, a Paris court overturned that ruling on Thursday, finding that the video that was made by the journalist who was being sued and its contents were covered by free speech laws regardless of the substance of their claims, and that they were good faith claims. Now the case is set for final decision after the First Lady announced on Sunday her intention

to bring it into the big court of Casséchon. He noted that her brother would similarly petition the court. Speculation and conjecture about various cover-ups surrounding the Macron's have gained viral traction on social media over the past seven years, not only in France, but particularly in America, where Candice Owens reveled in the spectacle caused by her becoming Brigitte video series, which makes a series of familiar claims that the French first lady was born as a man. And a big thing that they keep saying is, show us a photo of you as a girl. And then her thing back is, it's demeaning and beneath me to have to prove to you that I am a woman. I'm not going to do it.

And now they're saying, as we go to the top court, just send us a fucking picture. Just, okay. Just to stop you there. She shouldn't have to do that. I don't want to be the most white person. She should, if she is a woman, which I think she is, she shouldn't have to do that in the same way that Donald Trump shouldn't have to give, um, uh, Obama

shouldn't have to give his birth certificate because some bully is saying, well, why wouldn't you do that then? Because it's none of your fucking business. I mean, you just give the birth certificate though. You, I mean, he did it. He gave the birth certificate. I know, but you shouldn't be bullied into things like that. Yeah, but you're not, you're, you're the president of France, the first lady.

You've brought defamation. What? To be honest, if they just ignored it as you should have and go, these people are fucking insane, but as soon as they bring the def ignored it as you should have and go, these people are fucking insane. But as soon as they bring the defamation suit, that's when you go, why are you? It's like, you know, Liberace, you can never come out as gay because he sued a newspaper. Yeah.

Like, look, look, we've, we've had our moment. We've had the village people want to get angry at us for talking about homosexual. I think Kevin Spacey also had some legal thing against the person. He was just walking a dog or some shit. I'm always suspicious when someone who is worth that much money and is at the apex of Europe and power decides to seek $8,000 in damages and saying, you shouldn't be saying this about me with your piddly little documentary that no one really watched. It does seem like it adds fuel, doesn't it? To go, I'm going to take you to court. Well, I think we'll find out in the end. Okay. So what is your belief?

Is your belief that she is a he or he is a she? I have, I have absolutely no idea. I just like, I told you, these are the kind of tunnels I don't like to go in, but I do like that. One's one's where they weren't a tunnel before. Where a new tunnel has been made by a surgeon. I don't want any new tunnels. They haven't stood the test time. Because now there's all this stuff, which I never know whether they believe. I don't know if it's going to cave in or not. This surgeon has jumped out of a window and committed suicide. He was going to testify, yada, yada, yada. But ultimately it does seem to save everyone's time and money.

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Obviously never had kids. Well, I actually let me look, let me look that up because I think she met him, she met him when she was 40, unless she had kids to a previous bloke. She was running, you know, and he wasn't going to have a kid at 14. You know what I mean? No, she has children. She has children. Well, then checkmate man. Checkmate.

Did the kids, but they keep asking saying, show us pictures of you with the kids. When you, you know, when, after you'd given birth in the hospital. Now this isn't my conspiracy, but what is weird is that the court ruled in favor of the journalists in being able to make their claim, which I thought they. Okay. So let's, let's say this scenario comes back and it's, uh, she is a, he was a he, right? She was a he.

What, what then do they go? Thank you at last. Right. That's why it's, you go, this is, if this is France, this is a country that would give the least fucks about it. You saw the opening ceremony at the Olympic games, which was like drag queens and trans people. Drag queens and trans people dancing on boats in the rain.

Look, could you imagine one French person being like, Oh no, I regret my vote for Macron because I don't support this out of bizarre behavior. I have steadfast sexual morality. The fucking France cares. If it was America, if it was Russia, if Vladimir Putin was actually bought a woman. All right. So that's a, that's a seamless thing into, so Putin and Trump right now, they're not mates. They're not getting along anymore. Uh, Putin says, uh, Obama fucking Trump says that he's going to say, was it 60,000 missiles to the Ukraine?

He said he, the Patriot missiles, which have been in, they're the ones they use in, uh, what do you call it? That they use those in Israel at the moment, shooting down things. So he was not going to, um, the Ukraine. I think a lot of people from that wing of politics wants to see the end of that war. He did say, I'll get it done on day one. No, he said it'll take in a day in a day. He didn't say which day he didn't say which day give credit where credit's due.

It's the day he's coming up, but he's about to get it done because we all know that this presidency has been nothing but success. So in five years when this war's over, he'll be, and it ends on a Friday. He'll go see. Yeah. I told you Friday. That was the day. That was the day.

Well, obviously Putin's not going to stop. January 7th, 2028. Obviously Putin's not going to, I mean, there has to be some kind of win for his people that he has to tout. Well, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, not going to, I mean, there has to be some kind of win for his people that he has to tout. Well, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

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an anti-war president. How's it working out? How's it going? How's it going? Well, I've seen him at the moment with the Epstein files being the absolute metaphor for the administration, which is everything that his base wanted and were promised, all of a sudden he has been absorbed into that deep state. And it has failed dramatically. Unless this move, I imagine is you've got to negotiate by saying,

well, why not was tariffs? He's going to tariff them and then provide the weapons. So he's trying to like get a stronger hand to negotiate from. But yeah, it's a, most of the plan has not gone. But this is a little sidetrack. We're going to go back to the business. TP USA, the Charlie Kirk, you know, Turning Point USA, the massive conservative movement of young people had their big function the other day.

And it's really fireworks watching what would be the nativist paleo conservative right wing fighting against the more traditional conservative wing. And you'd say once again, Donald Trump has become a very mainline Republican president carrying on the war. You think people are going to be happy with this now? I look, I personally, I think he should give missile to the Ukraine. I'm all for keeping that war going. Putin can go fuck himself. There shouldn't be a ceasefire. Let's go fight to the Ukraine, I'm all for keeping that war going. Putin can go fuck himself.

There shouldn't be a ceasefire. Let's go fight to the end on that one. And now Israel, Palestine, I have different opinions on Israel. Uh, Iran, I have different opinions on, but the Ukraine, I'm all fucking Ukraine up, man, I'm all Ukraine. I like those. They're out of people. Yeah, but you don't need, they just get, they just get grinded to the, you know, it's

terribly sad if it was, if it was like country, like, like, how do you start again, you've lost, they're basically getting 50 year old men to go to the front. Now. Yeah. But Russia thought they'd take them in two weeks. Correct. They thought two weeks, these people will fold and we'll be done maybe a little longer, but not much longer, like, oh, that's a real estimate.

Right. And now what is it? Yes. Yes. It's not good. Is it? You don't want to meet ground or a human flesh. No, you don't want to meet people.

You can't be pushed around. You got to stay. It's better to live on your feet than die on your knees. Better to die on your feet than live on your knees. That's the thing. That's from I'm saying. From the midnight oil. It's better to die on your feet than live on your knees.

And they said by a person who's never lived on their knees. I think in today's day and age, living on your knees, not so bad. There's a lot of chairs that can get you around. There's a lot of creature comforts for he on the knee. I know, no, no. It's when they came up with that phrase, the world was a harsher place. The original saying was it's better to be morbidly obese on a mobility scooter than to walk. Like whoever came up with it's better. To die on your feet than live on your knees.

So it was Emiliano Zapata, Mexican revolutionary leader. It's pronounced Peter Garrett, midnight all. It's better to die on your feet than live on your knees. Oh, the power and the passion. I've done singing. I've done French mime. Fuck. I'm active today. I'm so active today. I put it to you that you, Jim Jefferies would fucking live on your knees any day. Otherwise, yeah, but I'm spineless. Don't use me as an example.

Don't use me. I'm not a good example. I'm good with the words. Not so good with the actions. You ever use me as an example. Don't use me. I'm not a good example. I'm good with the words. Not so good with the actions. You ever see me throw a ball? Just you that's, I just, when I hear that saying, I think of you wearing volleyball knee pads going, I'm ready with, with my tongue out, just smash it into me. Let me live daddy.

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Quince. So I got, we got a little lost there, but basically stay tuned following this Brigitte Macron thing, because at first I just thought this was the sort of a nutshell. All right. So, so what's your bet? I'm going to say, uh, never had a Dick. What are you saying?

I don't, I, I think it's, I think it's already crazy enough that you groomed a student and I'm happy to leave it. I'm not going to say good person. I don't know. I'm just saying, I think it's already crazy enough that you groomed a student. And I'm happy to leave it. I'm not going to say good person. I don't know. I'm just saying, I think that's already enough. I don't know. They're like, yeah, there's enough that you could hang her on for being, you know, having someone 25 years younger that she met when she was 14, there's

enough hanging on that to actually do that, but I'm going to say never had a dick, you dick or vagina. Well, well here we are. Well, I actually don't want to be sued. Yeah. What do you mean they want to be sued? So that means you're used to have a dick because you can't be sued for vagina. Look at this in the spirit of honesty, I'm leaning towards cock.

Let go. Let go. They rooster like on the thing. Brigitte, my home. So, so, okay. So how do I say, how would I say that in French? I think she's a man in French. Here we go. Well, Jack wants to know why we care because we got to feel these podcasts.

We saw them. I thought what is your name? Jack just asked us why we cared because this is what podcasting is. You, you got to hate the view. Don't ever watch the view. I don't know what your name is. Jack just asked us why we cared. Because this is what podcasting is. You're going to hate the View. Don't ever watch the View. They talk about fucking nothing, Jack. They cover nothing and they do it every day.

Why do we care if Rochelle LeBarb was a man? Why do we care about this? Well, we do care because if we believe someone's lying to us and they're in the public eye in some official political way, then we should, they should be truth tellers on some level. But I'm with you, I personally don't care. But other people, other people, yeah.

We're just peasants screaming at the castle. And if you live in the castle, you have to expect that toothless peasants like me are going to be like this. She's got a cock, I reckon. They should cock on a princess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's from one of the lesser known Monty Python movies. She's got a cock. Like every time I read this stuff, I realise I am just a mud dwelling peasant who's throwing cabbage and shit at a princess's car going,

there's a cock in there. It's an aberration against God it is. There's a cock in there. It's an aberration against God. It is speaking about, speaking about, um, uh, people, uh, and their conditions, there is a new Barbie that has just come out. We who's got diabetes. All right.

Have you seen diabetic Barbie? Well, I've always said, I think it's wonderful that there's, uh, toys that, uh, more people can relate to, particularly in America. Well, OK, first of all, have you I've always done this. You can make it really diabetic. How easy is it to pull a leg off a Barbie? Right. Exactly. Regular Barbie can be that's for type two diabetes Barbie.

That's that's next year's toy. This is this summer is just regular diabetes Barbie. Now foot is not included. Yeah. And then then season three will be mobility this summer is just regular diabetes Barbie. Now foot is not included. And then, then season three will be mobility scooter and she'll be have some, uh, some, some, uh, Disney ears on top of her head and a churro in the front of the stand for too long. There's been unrealistic standards and everyone is getting their day. Now, now there's colostomy bag Barbie.

Well, here we go. Here we go. She loves it. She loves a bag. I'll tell you linking it back to the last story. Trans Barbie, right? their day now there's colostomy bag Barbie. Well, here we go. Here we go. She loves a bag. I'll tell you linking it back to the last story. Trans Barbie, right? It's just Ken and you slap a bit of tits on him, right? He's already got the smooth bound.

It's a very easy transition for Ken. Ken's ready to go into Barbie. Brigitte Barbie. Yeah, Brigitte Barbie. It used to be Ken and he's still... Choose which organ. He's still got that little Ascotty thing around his neck and he's just got boobs now.

And he's just like, I don't know. This is how Mattel made me. I used to do a joke about this, which was because I remember they did down syndrome Barbie two years ago. Yeah. Okay. And so the joke that I used to do was it is funny that at the Barbie corporation, as they got more woke, they were like, we need more diversity in the Barbie range.

And they gave us a Down syndrome Barbie before they ever gave us a flat chested Barbie, because even, even in the Barbie universe, they're like, I don't care what she's got, she needs tits. Like, I thought you were going somewhere. I thought I was going to have to tell you off there. That was okay. That was okay. That was okay. You skirted the topic very well.

So the bit I used to do is I go somewhere at the headquarters. They're like, any ideas? And this guy's like, how about flat chested Barbie, a cut Barbie, you know, because a lot of girls don't have tits. This guy's like, get the fuck out of this office. The other guy goes down syndrome, but double D's. That's what we're talking about. Well, they had, they had Barbie in a wheelchair and that Barbie, because of the prop costs

more than the regular Barbies. Isn't it enough that these kids are already in wheelchairs and then they want to have a Barbie that reflects them and then they have to spend extra money. This is where this country's going to shit. So that's just the harsh realities of the market. I'm sorry. I hate to be all iron randy in here, but it's more product. So more plastic. I want about a Bezos Barbie that goes into space.

Yeah. Katy Perry. Yeah. But like, no, no, like Bezos wife, but I don't know how you could make Barbie's face look more. Well, you'd have to put it in the microwave for about 10 seconds left out on a hot day Barbie. Lauren Sanchez. We're so mean to her. Uh,

we are. She seems like a nice enough woman, but she's got a bit into dollars. That's what other conditions is the Barbie franchise bringing out? Well, I, I don't know if there's any other, you know, could we have some of the ones that, you know, bipolar Barbie, which is her with some pills and her makeup's a little bit thing. And she just has a speech bubble that just goes, you don't get it. No, something like that.

Yeah. Self-harming Barbie, self-harming baby. Little cuts, little cuts on the arm. Little cuts, little razor blade. We've all met self-harming Barbie. She's lot of fun most of the time. And then every now and again, she'll call you at two in the morning. Self-harming Barbie.

What about, uh, where, where did the conditions stop being funny? What? What we were talking about self-harming people and you're like, when do they stop being funny? I don't know. I have a light cold Barbie. It's just the box of Kleenex and she's just in her sweats and you pull a cord and she goes, I don't think it's COVID.

But there's no like, well, if there's Down syndrome, surely you have to open it to like, oh, like cerebral palsy. Yeah. Every condition should have one. How about, how about, how about like mental health problems? Like Ken's just left me. So I fucked two of his friends Barbie. Well, that's what most girls probably play with anyway. That's, that's more just a script. I haven't, how many Barbies do you think in their entirety of being shoved up someone and come out with like the, the, the, the, the, something about Mary hair. Like, come on there.

It must've been Barbies used as dildos. Am I the only person who's ever thought of this? Seemed like it seemed more of an emission of a strange fetish there folks. That's the mind of Jim Jefferies. I'll tell you. Okay. I'm telling you who's putting him up there. Pussy.

Yeah. I bet you're better. That's happening. And the hairs will slick back. Cause that that's, yeah, that's, that's what have happened. Right guys. Yeah. Whenever I say to my house, you want to come over for a Barbie?

That's what I mean. Yeah. And if you want to do the conspiracy theory, it's barbecue. Yeah. And when you Turkey slap Barbie, you say I'm putting my shrimp on a Barbie. Oh, that's me. That's mean to me and to Turkey Barbie. That was, that was a trio of that mean it was all three. I got you. I got you all there. There'll be a case of you like in there somewhere. People will enjoy us being mean to Barbie, but you know what? This does mean that mean you can never be in the Barbie movies. The franchises they would always pull this.

They'd always pull this footage up. I'd get an audition. I'd go in there and do really well. And then I'd get the movie. And then I'd hear that I'm being cut out of the film because I was talking about Barbie being rammed up people's vaginas. Yeah. And you call it down to self-harming Barbie. If not me, who else could play Stung by a Bee Ken?

Oh, sorry. True that. True that. Well, Kanye West could, right? And that would cover a few things. I'd also like one that just ones that are defects off the line that have just like, Oh no, that one's, you know, we ran out of the plastic to mold that arm, flaminomide Barbie. Can I, can I tell you another? All right.

I, that one, that one didn't go as well. No, you just cut out and I had, then I heard flaminomide and I was like, Oh, I just got sad for a minute. Tell me if this part of the joke is not good. Okay. Now that I've got the woke police over here, hey, these two guys, old Jack over there, slamming the brakes on the band to bus over here.

Who are you looking off to at this side on the band to bus? Okay. This is a bad one. So if there's, I think this, I think this is funny, but you guys might not. So if there's Down syndrome, Barbie and like cerebral palsy, Barbie, don't be mean to dance in your cerebral palsy, man. After I did legit, man, I'm never, I'm pretty good.

Like, no, no, this, I'm just, this is the most woke I get. And also watch my new special to limb limb, two limb special coming out, two limb policy, two limb policy. Now this is where I think that I'm making a valid point is there's all this. Is it valiant though? There's all these different conditions with Barbie, but you never hear of Ken having any of these conditions. So that means we live in a universe where regular Ken is fucking, she's

fucking Barbie who has Down syndrome and not that's not okay with me. He doesn't need to have an erection. He doesn't need to have an erection. He hasn't got a dick. He just has to work his tongue like a magician. Ken has found a 28 year old chick with a car syndrome and a mansion. That's why he wears the ascot to get back down there. Ken's friends are like, are you fucking that chick with Down Syndrome? That's not cool, man.

He's like, you got to see her house. I don't know. I don't know what the, yeah, it's pink. Yeah. I don't know what the legalities of that is, but, uh, yeah, no, I, I, that joke's okay. I'm all right with that one because everyone's getting sex and it's Ken who's been put out by the whole situation. Who's in legal problem there, not you. That joke's okay. I'm all right with that one. Because everyone's getting sex and it's Ken who's

been put out by the whole situation who's in legal problem there, not you. Okay, we're doing a lot of segues today. Here's a legal problem for you. There's a lot of segues today. Life's a segue, mate. We're all trying to segue. You're just stopping and starting constantly. It's very hard for two guys like you and I who are on the different levels of the spectrum. The segways get harder and harder. I'm on the extreme left of the spectrum.

Uh, my legal problems in today, uh, I can announce to everybody that today is my last day in America. Dum da dum dum dum dum dum dum. Amos is gone. He's wearing a Tottenham shirt. That's why I'm appealing back to my British. Yeah. You're trying to get back into the UK.

Okay. Why are you being kicked out? No, so my visa has come to an end and obviously I support, I support the law. So I'm leaving to Montreal for the Just for Laughs festival. And because I'm leaving- After what you said to the French, I don't think you'll be allowed in there. Yeah. That is the man that says that our Brigitte has a penis.

Yeah. Even in Montreal they're upset. That's how Brigitte you are, despicable conspiracy theorist. No, putain for you. That's how Brigitte you are to speak about conspiracy theories. No, put 10 for you. The issue for me is, is my, my visa has been processed at the moment. And if your visa has been processed, you may stay in the country. Once you leave the country, unfortunately, you have to wait until it's completely done.

Completely done. And I thought I was in the same boat for years. I did this a couple of times. Yes. And so I thought I'd be back after Montreal, um, to go with my girlfriend's family to South Carolina, we were going to go over there for a, um, a family vacation and that's gone. And then I went, well, that's okay.

It's just a family vacation. And then I have other gigs coming up that might be gone. And the system is taking a very long time as it always bloody does. Uh, but not that I'm against that net and anyone who's, why do you think the system slowed down Amos? I can't crack the code. Why do you think there might be a backlog in applications? There could be some people who are reviewing what we say on this podcast right now to determine

whether or not I'm welcome back. And unfortunately for me, I got all anti-Trump at the wrong time. Yeah. Do you reckon there's one person listening to it right now? Just like going, but my daughter's a Down Syndrome Barbie. You know what, you know what Annika said to me the other day, Jim? She goes, for like a year and a half, you were like a defender of things about Donald Trump. Like you loved getting in there with your left-wing friends and agitating them about

why they were wrong about Trump. It would have made the podcast. And she goes, we'd have, we'd have listeners if that was the case. She goes, now you have decided to turn in the administration right at the time they have your paperwork. Like what was that about? I know you're my barometer on whether people are like, whether Trump has lost people or not, I believe he's whether Trump has lost people or not.

I believe he's lost a lot of people of late. I believe it's not going well for him at the moment. I'm more of that sort of Tucker Carlson wing. Yeah, you still like Tucker Carlson, whatever Tucker's into, you're into. I'm amazed that you don't wear bow ties on the regular. He had to get rid of the bow tie. The bow tie was a tough branding point. The bow tie has never looked good on any man ever.

When we were doing the snake and we're about to speak to pastor Jacob from the snake and we were doing the snake, um, there was on that last one, I was in a tuxedo and they put me on bow ties and you know how like with men's fashion, all that the companies do to keep selling suits is this. Ties bigger, ties smaller, ties thinner, ties wider, ties fluffier, ties covered in satin top. They just change the shape. Lapels small, lapels thin, double breasted, single button, two buttons, right?

They just change everything, just a little tiny itty bitty bit so that you're out of fashion and you're in fashion. And also we tried on before we did that thing, maybe 10 or 12 bow ties. And the people at Fox had a big discussion on whether this bow tie is good or that bow tie is good. And they looked at it. And in the end I said, Hey guys, can I just wear a regular black tie and see what you think?

And I put it on and they were like, Oh, that's it. Cause I look like a buffoon in a bow tie. Is there any name me a person who looks like maybe James Bond. Oh, like wacky, wacky professor types can get away with it. Name me someone who looks more handsome in one. We have to get rid of both Daniel Craig, Winston Churchill still look more handsome. You could smear shit on Winston Churchill He would still look more handsome. You could smear shit on Winston Churchill to make him look more handsome.

You'd be literally one of the ugliest cunts in history. And go, and go, he looked more handsome. Like that guy, that fucking Mr. Toad, and you're going, he looked more handsome in a bow tie. Name me a person who like a movie. Bill Nye, the science guy. No looks more handsome in a bow tie. Name me a person who like a move. Bill Nye, the science guy. No one looks better in a bow tie. They should get rid of both.

I still think he would look better in an actual tie. Because an actual tie joins your tuxedo and meets where the V goes down. And there's a bit of continuity to the outfit. The tie just sort of sets off into a different angle where everything else is pointing into one direction. It's like sort of subliminally pointing towards your dick because you look handsome like everyone like that right where the bow tie just keeps your vision up here and you go what the fuck's that. Also with the bow tie no one has ever kept them on for more than three hours. They've always had to move them around.

I like them when they're untied. I'm a fan of that. If I, if I was living my best life without the male gaze of my friends, calling you, I know you don't like the male guys. Oh, the male guys. No, if all males were gays, I would wear this. Without the male guys, I would be coming from my, I'm a big fan of a, like the silk scarf, cravat.

I don't mind. I, you know, I was, I have a scarf collection. I like a scarf, but it's still dangles down. I'll tell you something that was from the eighties. I know they had it earlier on than that. And I hope it never comes back. The cover bun. No one looks good in a cover bun. Yeah. A cummerbund. Yeah. No one looks good in a cover bun. Yeah. A cummer bun. Yeah. I thought it was cause they cover. What are they? What are they? What's it? Why is it called cummer bun? I've been calling him a cummer bun.

I don't know why, why, why, why cummer bun? Why? Okay. Do you remember when it's going to be racist in some way? You're too young for this, but when I was young and we went to our school formals in year 10 and year 12, the big thing you could do is you wear a, um, tuxedo shirt with a little wingtip collars, right? A tie. And you wore your suit, maybe a few ruffles down here. You wore your jacket. That was the thing. But when you took the jacket off, the sleeves were like Mickey mouse or something,

like they're a bit more colorful and they really showed your personality off. Those, yeah, and you're like, oh yeah, I think I look handsome. Now I look fun. There, I'm ready to go. And so you could have the cummerbund that was also Disney themed or something like that. Disney made a lot of those things back in the day.

I personally, if I could dress my own way and I've got, I'm about to do something very good here. What I would do, Jim is every, I'm a, I like Ralph Lauren and I like walking to the Ralph Lauren store. And when you see the mannequin and there's all these different layers with like a blazer and a sweater and this weird colored tie that I would, I'd never purchase any of them as an individual, but as a collective, I'd go, I want that whole outfit, but I

don't have the money for Ralph Lauren, but I do like that look, which brings us to our sponsor, quints. Yeah. And you can't do it. We got it. We got to wedge it later on. Oh, really? I also, maybe they're not going to be happy for me to be like,

you know, that beautiful brand. Yeah. Yeah. And you don't mention Ralph Lauren and then go, we got stuff that's a bit to cut that out. You idiot. It's going to have to it's going to have to end on me talking about Mickey Mouse cover buns.

I thought I thought they would be like that because it is like Ralph Lauren style, but with Kmart prices. All right. Anyway, I wasn't. I thought they would like that because it is like Ralph Lauren style, but with K-Mart prices. All right. Come on. Anyway, I wasn't, I'm going to finish my thing and let me get back. All right. Mickey mouse thing. I want to say,

so I will tell you someone who wears a bow tie is a mayor. John from the snake. He wears a bow tie and I think I owe him a bit of money because I made a bet with him off stage that I must reach out to that man in pain because I think he's won the bet. So I'm in this situation after Montreal, I can't get back into America. So all my life is here. My apartment packed up. I have nothing. And so I have one suitcase that I thought I was going away for a couple of weeks. And I've decided now, well, I'm not going to just stay around and do nothing. So I'm going to Edinburgh now for the month. And then I'm going on Europe tour with you. So I'm not coming home.

My girlfriend is now devastated because I'm going to be gone for three months or whatever like that. Um, but there is, but, but I just bought a way that's going to go through her. I just bought some Oasis tickets. So she was like, Oh, it's so sad that we don't get to spend this summer with each other. And then she goes, what are you doing over there? And I went, I just bought tickets to Oasis in Edinburgh.

And she's like, you're fucking thrilled with this. And it is cause I've got to see you for a bit. I, she can't leave the country cause she's still going to do some work, but I'm going to be out. I'm like, remember last year woman who does such a thing. What are you talking about? Remember last year, I, uh, three years ago when I got my visa, I got it in Bucharest and so I do like these little visa she's yours, but I've never met a woman who does such a thing. What are you talking about? Remember last year, three years ago when I got my visa, I got it in Bucharest.

And so I do like these little visa chagons, but I've been filling out the paperwork today. And here's one thing that really gives me the shits with any country's document process. I have to fill out the last five years of flights to and from America that I've taken over five years. Now, when you're an international resident and you're going as a touring commision, you'd be called an international man of no mystery

as an international man of no mystery. I have to record all my fucking flights. And all I can think is what is the point of facial recognition technology at the airport? Oh, I have to have this dumb book and then handwrite out all my flights to and from. And to make matters worse, they go, here's a form I 94, which shows every time you vented and you go, we'll just have that. Well, when I was fucking got it, when I was becoming citizen, Jack, do you remember

this? They made me fill in 10 years, 10 years of in and out to the country. I literally leave the country at least five times a year. If I, if that's my minimum. Yeah. But then when I leave the, you have to list all the countries. Then when I leave the country, I'm never going to just go into one country. I'm going to like five or six.

And there was on my ones, there was like, and why were you in Iraq and Afghanistan, I was like entertaining your troops. Like, what are you talking about? Yeah. You go, um, that's a question for Dick Cheney. It's still trying to get to the bottom of that. Yeah. Because Barbara Bush has a cock.

Now I tell you what, out of all the presidential wives that might have had a cock, Barbara Bush is right up there. Barbara Bush, Barbara Bush died and they started showing pictures of Barbara Bush when she was younger. There was very little difference between old Barbara Bush and young Barbara Bush. What was George W's wife's name? Um, uh, she's what's, you know, I picture in her head, she's the one who hit the people with the car.

Um, Nancy, Laura Bush, Laura Bush. That's who I was looking for. I went for the other Bush. There you go. But, um, to my, to my point, the other Bush, that's like the French prime minister's wife. The mystery is in the Bush. It's your job to work it out.

But what I was going to say to you is if we have to live in this draconian world of constant surveillance, the least they could do is have us fill out no more forms. Oh, I'll tell you compact with the government, the privacy, the Inuit dome for the Clippers knows more about you than the blackened passport system does. I tell you. Yeah. And is that, is that what you know? Yeah. Well, I don't know. Sometimes you go in there and you get a Jersey and you don't pay for it. And then sometimes you do, but I'm glad I got a Norman Powell Jersey out of there for my son.

And he's just been traded. So I think fair is fair. But yeah, I'm feeling very vulnerable at the moment as any person who has a visa is, is cause you just go, Oh God, what if I, I lived about eight or nine years in Britain getting three months visas at a time. And it was always hanging over me. This dark cloud of will they, won't they, will they, won't they. And America right now, how politically things are and how backlog they would be with all the other people being detained and all type of stuff. Look, I just hope that on alligator Island, there's good internet so we can continue the podcast. Because the truth is, and don't think I haven't reflected on this.

You'd be sitting there in a cage like, it's going, yeah, but he doesn't start wars. If, if I'm put into alligator, Alcatraz and kicked out of the country. I have had multiple nights thinking about this. There's not one person in our world, any of our mutual friends who goes, poor Amos, cause they'll go, Oh, is this, is this the guy that liked old Donnie Don? Yeah. We were, if you were an Alcatraz, an alligator Alcatraz, you know, our friend group would love it like, cause you know, you're not going to die there or anything

like that, but we'd just be like, Oh, good work. At least you got kills. Uh, you know, you'd be done. You'd be done. Yeah. I'm sitting in the alligator. I credit is going, yeah, but those emails from Hillary, they weren't right. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, you wouldn't want to go out in that water. You'll probably find Hillary's hard drive. Am I right? The real reason Donald put me here is to protect me because there's going to be an uprising and he loves me and he loves my comedy. And he's keeping me safe and alligator. Akrotras because Antifa is tracking me down and he knows I'm a valuable asset. And he's going to make me the vice president.

You guys are like, fuck. And now he's gone. He's lost his mind. Don't deport me. I love America. What the fuck? I can't believe it. They're not going to deport you.

You're going to be back in before you know it. And, you know, and I'm going to be happy for you. It's going to be 2027. It's going to be a fresh start. Speaking of rules with coming in and out of the country, I thought we could finish with a little light point that I love. The TSA as a person who travels permanently has finally dropped this law that I despise, which you haven't had to worry about because you get pre-check here. Yeah.

But I still get angry about it. It means that I can't fly in cowboy boots and I'm desperate to do it. Um, you don't have to take your shoes off anymore, which is they haven't found a bomb since that shoe bomber guy. And then we all had to take the shoes off. And I used to hate it when a TSA person looked at it. And sometimes they let some shoes through and they go, maybe not this one, like,

do you know anything about it? The only, the only airport security that is longer than America is Canada. And that's just because the Canadians are bumbling into each other and I have to show your your airline ticket five times. So many times in Canada. So many times you have to show your airline ticket and your passport after you put all your stuff onto the conveyor belt going through the machine. Then they ask to check it again.

Then they check it. They check it so many fucking times. They are overly cautious in Canada. It's kind of silly. Right. Canadian domestic airport is far worse than American. You have to show up at the airport 15 minutes earlier than you do in America just to get through the lines. That's like no bullshit.

And there's no one complaining if they did in America, people lose their mind. But the shoe thing, the shoe thing is going to change my life. I love taking the shoes. And also I'm about to run my TSA pre-checks, because I don't have one of these real IDs. I thought my other ID was a real one. It looked real, it felt real, it got scanned underneath the thing,

but it didn't have facial recognizing something on it. So now they've just called it a real ID. And so I have to carry my passport domestically, which is a pain in the neck as well. Well, why are you going to get your real ID? I've got a real ID and I'm not even allowed to be in the country anymore. Because I just, it's the time I'm going to go down to the DMV and you know, so the TSA, I didn't know anything about this shoe bomber thing.

So for anyone who doesn't know it says the TSA initially implemented the shoes off policy in 06 in response to the shoe bomber incident involving Richard Reed, who attempted to detonate explosives hidden in his shoes on a flight from Paris to Miami in December of 2001. So they did it five years later. This policy was part of a broader effort after 9-11, yada, yada, yada. He's a British- The Patriot Act, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah, so who the fuck was-

They just started bringing in shit after 9-11. Who the fuck is Richard Reed? Do you know anything about him? I don't know, but he was the shoe bomber. He was the shoe bomber. Look him up. He looks like Jason Gillespie, the Australian fast bowler. No, he's a shady looking little fuck. I know what he looks like. What the fuck was he doing? He was trying to blow up. What do you need to reason for? We got a guy in India who's...

He's a white Muslim. He's one of those guys that's, uh, when they convert you're way more intense. All right. I reckon, I reckon non-Arab Muslims. They always confuse me. They always confuse me. I reckon within the Muslim community, they're like, who's this blank? I just slap a bomb on him. If he's that keen, if he's that keen, just like a bomb on him.

There's nothing like being a redhead at Mecca. Oh yeah. Or anyway, it's not, just like a body. There's nothing like being a redhead at Mecca. Oh yeah. Or anyway, it's not, it's not really for them. Like, like there's got to be another planet for those people. Surely. Do you know anyone? Maybe they're meant to be on the red planet of Mars because you know, it's the right temperature for their skin.

Remember that chick from Australia? Uh, what was her name? She got done in Bali for having ecstasy. And then when she was in prison, she put on the headdress and the shari or whatever it was called. And she was like Michelle Leslie, that was her name. And she said that she was a Muslim on Indonesian television. And she'd read the Quran while she was being held in jail. And then she got what a really light sentence. And the moment she walked through the door of the Australian airport, she just took her head dress off.

She came up on that immediately. Praise all the drugs. She went like, I can't believe that Aussies are still, but we have a weird relationship with Barley Hay. They just keep executing us and we still go there and take pingers. I've never taken a ping in there and I've taken pingers in many places, but I've never, never there. I don't fuck around with, with country supporters, man, for shit like that.

No, that's, that's, that's the weirdest one. Which brings us to the snake and pastor Jacob. He'll know what to say. All right, ladies and gentlemen, uh, I am joined by the inclusive pastor, Jacob. He'll know what to say. All right, ladies and gentlemen, I am joined by the inclusive pastor, Jacob. How you doing, mate? I'm doing great, Jim. Thanks for having me.

How's life been since the snake? Has anything changed or is it just the same old, same old? It's back to work. It's back to family time. So mostly the same, but it's been fun to have a little bit of a platform just to connect with people around the world who are watching the show. Sure, and I hear that we spoke to Alyssa on the last episode that you guys have all stayed in touch. It's true. Since it's

happened, you've all become friends. So for a show that was about befriending and cheating and lying and being nasty to each other, it seems to have brought you all together in a little click. Huh? There is a lot of context still between everyone. I think that as people are seeing what is said about them behind the scenes, a little bit of tension, a little bit of banter, but friendly for the most part. Now in the last episode, you called out Catherine, Catherine, you called, you called that Catherine.

Um, and I, in my, from where I'm seated, it looks like you were in the right. You actually, you actually called her out and you, you was called that God. It helps that you burn. Oh, what an iconic line. No one believed me. Yeah. We'll see if they catch up, but. Is that why you quit the show? Like you, like, did you quit?

Did you jump before you were pushed? Or did you think you had a chance against you and Derek in the snake pit there? Cause in that moment, the reason I backed out was pretty much because of Derek. Him and I had been working closely. I felt bad that he had hitched his wagon to me and everything was going up in flames because of some of the conversation I had

started and I had kind of blundered my opportunity as the snake to push out some of our competitors. I didn't want him to go home. So in that moment I thought if anyone was going to change the trajectory of the house it was going to be Derek. He had the strategic thinking and just the emotional capacity to go back into the house and keep fighting. And I really wanted things to change in the house. Things had been so against me that if anybody was gonna make a difference I thought it was Derek. So that's kind of why I backed out. I still had some fight in me if anyone else was sitting there next to me, but I didn't want to take that chance from Derek.

Um, do you hold any ill will towards Catherine? It is a game after all, but I don't, absolutely not. It's she, I am impressed that she came into play. So I have to give her her props that she had her whole list of manipulation strategies, she was ready to put them to use. She fooled me right along with everybody else at the beginning. It took me some time to realize that everything wasn't adding up. There's a lot that she was saying to me that's not even in the show about other players that I just thought, this is contradicting each other at this point.

So she can't be telling the truth about everything. So you were saying that when people see what was actually said about them in hindsight, so has Catherine apologized to you or is she just gone, that's the way it goes? You know, privately she did reach out to share some really kind words. Oh, look, I think you can generally see that she did like you, that you two did really get along very well. But she knew she was cooked. So she had the cause of disruption in the house. Send Devonte and Jack up there.

They came marching up to come and yell at you in the room. Now, from my point of view, now, people would think that I know what's going on in the show, but you know, and I know that I'm only there for the task and I'm there for the saving ceremony and everything in between. I know nothing. So I'm, I'm watching the show the same as the rest of the audience. I'm at home going, that's why that, cause I remember being in the saving ceremony and, and, uh, and Katherine looking at you going, you've questioned my integrity and how do you know it? I was like, what the fuck's going down here? Why are they all not getting along? And now I look back and I'm

like, oh, that's why. That's why. So the whole show is a whole production that she had created and to see her send the guys in to storm in after me. And then it juxtaposed with her saying, I've got to create a scapegoat to get the blame off of me. That's brilliant. I was sacrificed. Would you do it again? It took some time after the show to kind of get my emotional and mental bearings. I think that I would definitely go in. I'd still want to be myself and be who I am as a pastor, but I think I could bring a little bit more strategic play than I did into it. So yeah, I do it again.

I personally think, and people never, when they look at themselves on camera, but I personally think that you've come out of it quite well. I think that out of all the contestants, you've come out as a good dude, you know, a nice guy who, who like, there's things that you did when you spoke to Alyssa and said on the first day, um, Kaylee was it Kaylee? Kay, Kay, Kaylee was saying some things about your occupation. I said, and then they had the footage to back you up. We're there. Yeah. Thank God. As you would say. Exactly. Yeah. You know, I have, I felt in that moment, just because I was there as a pastor, that there was

kind of just the weight of, there's so much hypocrisy and judgmentalism in American Christianity. And I wanted to portray what I do in a positive light in some way amidst this competition. So I'm grateful that I had a chance to be myself and try to come out of it with some integrity. And like you said, it's a game. People can play however they want. And so I did feel a little bit of weight with just my church watching and other churches

watching and a lot of with just my church watching another church is watching and a lot of Kids in my church watching so I needed them to have some sort of role model that outside of the game in real life There I saw I saw you had a big Screening for the first episode with your whole church. I saw that online Yeah, it looked like there was a couple hundred people came out to watch you. It was pretty amazing I've had a lot of support for my church. They're just having fun with it. They know it's a reality TV show. They know there's drama and they're just living it up. And Jacob, my friend who is, who is front and center of the bill.

Well, I'll tell you who's not me. What's going on with that? Yeah. You're supposed to be the face selling this. No, no, I'm all right. But it's, it's, it's you on Times Square standing right in the middle of the snake. I guess, you know, the garden of Eden and all that type of stuff. So I think you got on because you're a pastor.

And I think I got on the show because my accent's very good with the word the snake. It is. Yeah. What did you find the most challenging bit of the show? I think being with people 24 seven is that psychological component of needing to be on. It's hard to escape the environment. You're not sleeping a lot. You're just with these people talking with them. And even if you aren't best friends with these people, you just kind of have to be there

with them the entire time. And in the midst of being with these folks, you're also completely disconnected from your family and your support structure. So people might not know that you've got no phones, right? There's no way to contact anybody. Also, this is my sense that there's no telly, there's no TV. So all you got to do is talk to each other the whole time. Was it, was that a good experience?

Was it free or did you find you missed your phone? You missed the TV or was it nice to disconnect? It was nice to disconnect. I was hoping that one benefit of this experience was I'd kind of break my phone addiction because I have a really bad one. We all do. I've been right back to it. Of course. It was nice to get a few weeks away from the phone at least. Well now you have an addiction where people are talking about you online. That adds a whole thing. Do you read the comments? I do read the comments and I love it. I love On to see what people say and you obviously can't make everybody happy And so there's people who are really positive about the way I play the game and then the more strategic game player

Folks think I was a complete idiot and blundered a few things, which I totally get. And so it's fun just to read the good and the bad. You got your time over. What would you do different? I think I would go in there and be a little bit more direct with folks. I think I would have had a better game plan as the double-headed snake with Mac. I was trying to make some concessions to her, but I would have tried to take control a little bit, been more strategic, been more direct with folks, still been honest with everybody, but at least try to get farther in the competition. And how good was it coming home and seeing your little girl, man, after all that?

Oh man, yeah. As I was leaving that night, I said, I love being a pastor, but I love being a dad more. Yeah. So getting home and being, I have a, she's three, just turned three, seeing her. I'm the same. I got a three year old. I got home and that was the best bit of the whole thing was getting home, man. A lot of people don't realize that we were in Argentina for the filming of the show.

Okay. What will be your takeaway memory? Great question. I love the challenge part. And so for me, working with Mack on that cockroach challenge and being able to win that together, that's definitely memory of a lifetime and just meeting these folks. So I never would have connected with any other way, any other place to know that we kind of have this bond over a circumstance that you never expect you will have in your life. You do it together and it's really

bonding in that way. You're, you're, we don't hang out or anything, but you're my first pastor friend. I love it. I like to think anyway. All right, awesome. Now with that, I want to quote, I want to direct quote here, right? Okay. Who spat the eggs in the bucket, bro? Who spat the eggs in the bucket? All right. Somebody spit eggs into that damn bucket and no one has confessed to me. I tried to send some teasers out there to get someone to confess and there, my, my questions

are being ignored by the people who could be guilty here. So- Who's on the chopping board there? So Jack, of course. It's either Jack or Devante. They're the ones right in between me. You watch the video and you can see both of them

turn around and start gagging. So one of them, before I die, I need one of them to confess to me. I'd put me money on Devontae for some reason. Cause Devontae seemed to be going, ah, this is all bullshit, man. What about like that? Right. Which, which is weird because he didn't win the whole thing.

So what's the point of him even laughing about it? And also the only reason I say Devontae and I might be completely wrong. I might be completely wrong. The only reason I say Devontae is because Jack powered through the eggs the second time. Oh, he nailed it that second time. So I can't be mad because he destroyed them in that second round fair and square. What did they taste like?

They were just rancid. It was something gross. You can think of what would something moldy and rancid and disgusting tastes like, and I have some folks in my congregation from Asia who are giving me trouble because they say they eat them all the time. It's not a big deal. They were upset with me that I even That's the whole thing. Your two challenges were, they call century eggs, right? Cause of how long they've been there. And the other one was just fucking kimchi, bro.

That was nothing. That was easy. I got out lucky with that one. Yeah. Cause you're, you're vegan. Correct. I am your, your vegan. So they gave you kimchi, but then you still had to eat the rotten eggs. Right. Yeah. I feel like you're not killing an animal or doing anything there because if they're the a hundred year old egg or whatever they are, I know that a hundred they call century eggs. Right. Right. So they were already made anyway. You're not hurting anything there. They're already gone in a waste anyway. Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. With that.

All right. Final question. Did you hate when I showed up? Everyone seems to hate when I showed up. It was always such a miserable experience to me. I'd walk up and everything, every time I walked up, it was like, here, eat some, eat some goop or go swim through fish guts or go claw your nails onto a chalkboard type of thing. Right. So, so did you hate when I showed up? Everyone seemed to not like me. It was, I needed you because I was in such a bad position in the game. You showing up was a curve ball. And so something was going to change when you came. So for my life in the competition, I needed you to show up and shake things up

and give a new challenge or bring someone new in, because I was trying to hold on to whatever life preserver I could get. All right. Well, thank you. That was not because I spoke to Alyssa last week and she never seemed to enjoy me showing up. We had cowboy Cody wouldn't even do the podcast with me. He was still angry with me from, I don't know what I did to him, but he was still angry for it.

If you could change one thing about your game play, what would it be? I, I, I, let me put it this way. So there was, there was the time that you were the two headed snake, right? You tried to make the double Alliance, right? And then you said, all right, bring over Jack, we'll get rid of, we'll get rid of Brett, my type of stuff. Would you call that your biggest mistake? What was your biggest mistake? What was your main play mistake? I think, I think strategically, definitely trying to make an alliance with Jack and Devante,

naively not knowing that they considered me their enemy was definitely a mistake. In the end, speaking up about the bucket, even though there was definitely something in that bucket, didn't put me in well with the house. And so I saw a comment online that made me laugh that said, every episode the pastor is unintentionally chaotic. I somehow found myself in the middle of the chaos every single episode without even trying to create the chaos. My wife's a big fan of yours. You were one of her favorites on the show. But my mother-in-law didn't trust you because of the bucket incident. So you lost her. I lost some people with that.

She goes, no, I don't trust him. There was nothing in that bucket. That young boy, Jack didn't do anything. You know where I think you went wrong. Unlike all the other men in the room, you weren't shirtless enough. Everybody else was shirtless all the time. You shouldn't have worn your priest jacket, but had your button down here. Like Frankie or or just tape the collar on.

If I could have just put the collar on the neck and just put the, yeah, be wear the collar like a like a priest Chippendale Chippendale exactly I needed to be the priest Chippendale well you live and learn Jacob you live and learn I love having you in the podcast mate thanks for being on I appreciate it thanks Jim all right everyone that was Pastor Jacob um look uh thank you for listening tell your friends man we're trying to grow this podcast, but the people who do listen to the podcast, come and catch us in Europe. We're going to be out there real soon. Anything you want to say? If you're in Montreal, come and see me in Montreal.

If you're in Edinburgh, I'm going to come and see me in Edinburgh. Come hang out. He may not have any shows in America ever again. So you can say you saw him when. Oh, you know, I've had a great time in America and if they kick me out, you know, live by the sword, die by the sword. Good night America. you