I Don't Know About That - ATM: Episode 42 - Bondi Beach and Rob Reiner

Episode Date: December 17, 2025

At this moment, Jim and Amos give their takes on the recent Bondi Beach mass shooting as well as the murder of Rob and Michelle Singer Reiner. Here is the link to the current GoFundMe's associated wit...h the Bondi Beach victims: https://www.gofundme.com/en-au/c/act/bondi-beach-shooting-fundraisers Jim's new special "Two Limb Policy" is out now on Netflix! SOCIALS: Jim Jefferies Website: ⁠https://www.jimjefferies.com⁠ IG: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/jimjefferies⁠ FB: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/JimJefferies⁠ Twitter: ⁠https://twitter.com/jimjefferies⁠   Amos Gill IG: @abitofamosgill FB: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/AmosGillComedy/⁠   Theme Song: "Rein It In Cowboy" by the Doohickeys

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, everyone. Hi, this is Jim Jeffries. I'm here with Amos Gil. Before we start the show, what better Christmas gifts can you give than the ticket of laughter, than the gift of laughter. Come and see me in Reno on January 16th, San Jose, January 17th, New York, January 31st. And then I'll be touring New Zealand. Everything sold out in New Zealand except for Wellington, where there's still some tickets available. And that will, you got any gigs coming up, Gilly? I do. I'm going to be in Denver. Denver people. Come out. on the Valentine's Day weekend. I might even be shooting somewhat of a special there.
Starting point is 00:00:34 So come out, Denver people. Also, tickets still available for Dublin and Warsaw and Helsinki. And that's what I've got thus far. Otherwise, I'll see the Australians when I'm back for Fringe. Jim. And also, you'll be opening up for me at the gig in New York. So if you want to see both of us, January 31st, New York. And seriously, if you don't know what to get someone for a gift,
Starting point is 00:00:58 It is the easiest gift in the world to go to Ticketmaster, buy someone tickets, and just put them in an envelope, off you go. Now, that's all the stuff out of the way. We have a very serious podcast to talk about. What are we going to talk about, mate? On today's episode, we will be talking about the Bondi terror attack. And Jim, this one is, it's a tough episode to do where you're a comedy podcast, you do the episode, but we're also human beings who are Australians. We've got a lot of feelings about it. We were going to record it when it happened.
Starting point is 00:01:26 and I said to you, let's give it a couple of days, let it sit, let's see how we feel about it. And we say in this episode, I guess what we're feeling, will we get it right and perfect? What we're about to say is not going to make everybody happy. You can never make everyone happy. Your feelings change on it over and over. You get different information.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Things like this have an effect on you, you're a human being. And so I read things. I get angry about one part of the story, then another thing, and it's heartbreaking. and you don't, we're not politicians. We're two comedians. We're not always the most eloquent, but we give it a good go to say how we're somewhat feeling on this episode.
Starting point is 00:02:03 So stick with us on that. We hope the tone is, we try and have a laugh. That's how we feel about the situation at this moment. Yes. We also talk about the tragic stabbing of the amazing Hollywood director. And his wife. Rob Rana and his wife.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Yeah, it's a bumpy ride, everybody, but we gave it our best and hope you enjoy it. Hello everyone, welcome to At This Moment with me, Jim Jeffries and my co-host Amos Gil. Obviously, this is going to be a sadder and more controversial episode than previous episodes. We won't be speaking about Bonnie Blue as much. How are you, Amos? Yeah, I'm good. I just got back, obviously, so did you, from Dublin and our European tour.
Starting point is 00:02:51 At the last day there, was the Bondi terrorist attack and we were going to record an episode and then I said to you we probably should take some time to get more information as to what's happened and be a little less raw on it. I'm not sure how much we had to offer at the time, the comedy podcast, even now I'm like, how much comedy is there to do in the world? Because it's our first, really, I was saying to some people yesterday in America, it's like that's our first one, like a proper terror attack.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Well, for you would be the first. my generation that you remember that you remember stabbing right for me i remember port arthur very vividly um but uh yeah it hit home a lot harder Sydney is obviously the city that i grew up in bond i when i filmed the one percent club i stayed down in bondi and i have my family come out and stay with me and right next to that bridge there is a little bit of play equipment where my child was playing on only a year ago um uh maybe the most famous beach in the world um um um um And people have had so many happy memories there. And now it is going to be tarnished with the memory of this shooting.
Starting point is 00:04:02 So just that we'd go through what happened on the face value of it. So Navid. Let's just give the details. Navid Akram. And this is the bit that gets me, Sajid. So Sajid, the father, 50, the son, Navid. Yes. So a 50-year-old dad and his 24-year-old son.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I've had a bit of fucking, I mean, what a dark twist on, when you find out this is a father-son activity that they've basically gone on a suicide mission together down to the beach to go and murder some Jews. That's the bonding moment between the father and son, these fucking scumbags. The lack of love for life or whatever, like maybe they think they're going to be going into their special heaven to be able to have 84 virgins or whatever the fucking number is um but i'm you know close closer to 50 and uh i couldn't imagine saying to my son who had his whole life ahead of him hey how about we go out and fucking die together today that will be our
Starting point is 00:05:05 little thing we'll do or we could go to the movies what are we going to do today first attempt at humor from me if my dad was a radical fundamentalist and was going on a terror attack um i don't think he would actually entrust me on a mission he'd say you sit in the car yeah you've got no ability to handle a gun and you'll probably blow it. That's, so, I'm just testing to see if we have any of the just sitting in the car, yeah, with the bombs. Dad, can I, can I come to globalise the Intifada?
Starting point is 00:05:34 No, mate, you're a fucking clown. So these two went off together. They went off together. They had, I believe, correct me if I say anything wrong here, because you have the facts in front of you. Six guns between them. Yeah, so it looks like they had six guns. And obviously the first thing that you think of when
Starting point is 00:05:51 there's a gun terror attack in Australia is. How the fuck did they get the gun? Yes. Anyone knows that Australia is extremely tight gun laws. Extremely tight. My family are farmers, okay? I have an uncle who has guns, and those guns are used to shoot at the crows
Starting point is 00:06:07 that are eating at the almonds and whatnot. They are locked in a Fort Knox. This man is 62 years old with the cleanest criminal record you've ever seen. He's the father's thing from a radical, and that's very difficult for him to get those guns. Yes. Okay?
Starting point is 00:06:21 So how the fuck did they get them? And I'm going to get into that. We have a 50-year-old man who had stockpiled guns. Now, of course, I've been getting a lot of grief online being the gun control comedian from Australia, right? This was always going to happen. People have been made memes. I received some really horrible messages from people who were rejoicing to me that there
Starting point is 00:06:44 was a shooting in Australia because it made them feel a bit better about the shootings that happen in America. And you know what I did? I responded to every message with love. I decided I'm not going to fight with everybody. I just responded with, you know, nowhere's perfect. I truly believe that the Australian gun laws actually worked on this day. We had them only using shotguns and bolt action rifles.
Starting point is 00:07:10 If it was a semi-automatic gun, a lot more deaths would have happened. And our hero, who we'll talk about later, Ahmed, wouldn't it be? been able to come in and disarm the man. But more of that. Well, yes. So obviously you do get that from Americans, but I've been to a lot of American beaches. People aren't heading down to a Bondi equivalent, are armed to the teeth for a terror attack. No.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Not going to have happened. In fact, in this case, it was an unarmed and very brave man that was able to strip the gun off this fucking spanner that was holding it. But yes, if there was the ability to get an AR-15, God knows how many more people would have been killed at the beach. but if we've raised it, we might as well finish the point. We do have tough gun laws. Very tough.
Starting point is 00:07:54 And let me just give you some information, Jim, that makes me fucking sick and the incompetence of the government. Anthony Albanesey today is talking about we need stricter gun laws. Do we? Because I'll tell you what, what we need is you to actually use the gun laws that you have properly. How the fuck do you allow, whoever is in this government agency that we have looking over it, this guy to get a gun when his son was on a terror watch list in 2019?
Starting point is 00:08:18 What are the background checks? Do you need more laws, Anthony, or do you need to enforce the ones that you've got on the books? See, this is, it went, when I put my post up with the meme of me and I said, I completely blame the government for this. Now, completely is a very complete word. And of course, the blame goes with the two men who were firing the guns, right? But outside of that, I blame the government. I blame Albanese's government. Because these, as you said, the sun was on an Aesio,
Starting point is 00:08:48 watch list. They went overseas to train, yet they still got six fucking guns. All you've got to do is enforce the gun laws we have, right? And then you wouldn't have this now where people are going, oh, oh, we're worried about white supremacists and what they're going to do and that type of stuff. We don't have to worry about different people having guns if you enforce the laws that already stay there. So 2019, he's put on the sun, he's put on a terror watch list because of his connections to an ISIS cell inside Sydney with some extremist preachers that he was hanging out with, okay? Now, the gun
Starting point is 00:09:22 license for the father came. The first one was in 2015, then they needed more photographic evidence for another one. So in 2020, he reapplied and then got the actual license to 2023. After his son was already on a terror watch list. I'm not sure how you don't dot the eyes and cross the teeth on that one. And then he stocks,
Starting point is 00:09:38 piles six fucking guns, which he uses to pump lead in a 10-year-old in Bondi Beach. Someone has to take accountability for that. And if I see one more Australian in person because we are such a passive nation that will say things like, oh, now's not the time to be angry. Well, fuck me, mate. If you live in a social contract society that says you shouldn't defend yourself with guns, the government will do it for you. And then the government fails to keep you safe. And how come is it every time there's a fucking terrorist attack around the world,
Starting point is 00:10:04 they're always known to intelligence services. I'm sick of fucking hearing. Sorry, carry on. I'm just like, I'm sick of all the civil liberties being stripped around the world. Like Australia, you can't go anywhere without being on CCTV camera. You step four kilometres over the speed limit and you get a $500 fine because there's fucking cameras everywhere, revenue raising off every small indiscretion you've ever made. But somehow they can't stop a fucking guy linked to ISIS buying guns. So like, if we're going to have these agencies overreaching with digital IDs and they can't stop it, why should we trust you that you are actually using these powers that you say are in the benefit of the society for the good
Starting point is 00:10:46 if you keep failing every big terror attack they were known to police well what were you cuts doing yeah what were you doing what and and if his son was that why would you let the father have the fucking gun now the next point i'm going to make might be a hugely popular thing to say but within the community now everyone's going reaching out to me saying why won't you say that this is a Muslim fundamentalist and anti-Semitic behavior. Of course it's Muslim fundamentalists. Of course it's anti-Semitic behavior, right? But this doesn't mean that all Muslims are bad.
Starting point is 00:11:21 But what I believe Muslims and Jews and all the different religions need to do, they need to take accountability for their own people, right? For their own people. All I've heard now is Muslims going, oh, but we're going to be treated so badly now after what happened. And Islam is, this isn't religion of Islam. Yes, it is. For some people, it fucking is. For some people it is, right? If you have a cancer in your body, you have a cancer in your body, you can't tell me that the rest of the body's healthy because the rest of the body isn't. You have to count out the cancer that's already fucking there. Now, so what happened on October 7th was wrong. What happened in Palestine has been wrong and what happened in the beach in Australia is fucking wrong. All those things can be true all at once. Yeah, and these three, and that's it, the war zone has come to us. This is everything.
Starting point is 00:12:08 You know, the Australia that you and I grew up in, okay? If these two cunts had the fucking balls and they thought they were so wonderful and they wanted to go kill some Jewish people, go over and Israel and fucking do it. Don't bring it to the beaches in Australia, right? Don't try to fucking tarnish us and make us fucking choose a fucking side. Why should we, why are we responsible? And obviously, I say this to a lot of people too, is my family are immigrants to Australia. I'm an immigrant.
Starting point is 00:12:35 We're both immigrants, Amos. We're both immigrants right now in a country. But my thing that I was brought up with is, and again, a lot of people don't realize this is, well, I came from a, my family came from extremely violent, but we came from a civil war in the breakup of Yugoslavia, right? And the one thing that I remember people always saying about Croatians and Serbs was you cuntz leave your problems back in the Balkans. Now that you're in Australia, I don't care what blood hatreds you people have for each other, okay? It's not going to be tolerated. I remember that was a big thing.
Starting point is 00:13:06 we won't tolerate that shit for you guys. Don't be scrapping, right? Don't be trying to have attacks against each other. If you come to Australia, we are here to be a small, isolated, peaceful nation. You don't see me and you hanging around America throwing rocks at New Zealanders, do you? As much as we'd like to, but we don't. I don't want to say that I haven't done that, so let's move on.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Hasn't been documented. Hasn't been documented. I don't wish to be made a hypocrite through CCTV. But, yeah, so anyway, so I'm going to, I'm going to, we'll go back a step because obviously there's going to be much made. There's no doubt about it. The next year in Australia will be about immigration. That's going to be the issue.
Starting point is 00:13:54 And of course, it's going to be the issue that's on the table. People are fucking afraid. Yes. Okay. But, and then there's also going to be issues of, so there'll be a few things. There's going to be a pushback against Muslims. Yes. There's going to be a crackdown.
Starting point is 00:14:06 on speech because I'm already seeing people and I've seen a lot of despicable rhetoric about Jews undeniably. However, if they are going to use this disgusting act to say that there is no more valid criticism to be made of Netanyahu's government and that if you criticize Netanyahu's government and anything they're doing in a foreign policy sense, then you are enabling or you're anti-Semitic. That is also bad. That's not true because me and you, we know a lot of Jewish people. We know a lot of Jewish people. I have a lot of Jewish friends. I work with a lot of Jewish people. Same thing. A lot of Jewish people I know speak out against Netanyahu. And then, you know, I'm sure there's a lot of Muslims that are speaking out against this.
Starting point is 00:14:43 But we have footage. We have footage of Muslims burning the Australian flag, which I'm not a big burning flag. I don't give a fuck if you burn a flag. It's a bit of fabric. On October 8th, when people were singing gas the Jews, gas the Jews out the Jews out the out the front of the Sydney Opera House, we can't be fucking having that. If you want to chat like that, fucking get the fuck out, mate. Get the fuck out. So now the government, what is the government's first thing that the government's has said to the Australian people now after the shooting? Well, Anthony Albanese, when he was saying he's worried about right-wing extremism, it's like, mate, you know what? You know what it would be a prudent thing to say is we're looking into these two haphazard fools who made their way of the Philippines in November of this year to a terror training camp?
Starting point is 00:15:29 And you know what, ladies and gents? We're going to be doing background checks on their associates to make sure there's no other terror cells that might ruin your fucking. Christmas or your Hanukkah or whatever you celebrate over the next six months, because if these two were able to do it, and they weren't exactly top-end soldiers, the guys fucking slipping all over the place. Being disarmed by a bloke, yeah, just, okay. So look what the damage people like this can achieve. If you're part of the Muslim community in any part of the world, or if you're part of the
Starting point is 00:15:56 Muslim community in Australia right now, and you do have information, well, if you don't want to have racism against you and you don't want to have problems, come forward. say what you fucking know about the cells and all that type of stuff. Let's try to squish this out so it doesn't happen again. See, with racism or whatever, everyone uses the common phrase, no one's born racist. And no one is born racist. It is learned behavior. You learn it from the company you keep or the family you have or the incidences that you see, right?
Starting point is 00:16:33 Just fucking flip this, man. This doesn't have to be a terrible situation where we're all fuck the Muslims, fuck the Jews. We don't need this from either side. Everyone should be trying to get along. Everyone's now like we can't deal with these immigrants. Blokes like my father and your father, old blokes who have been coming around all these years like, all right, well, they're pretty good.
Starting point is 00:16:52 They work hard and a lot of them have small businesses, et cetera, et cetera. The old fellas now don't give a fuck. They just want you out. They remember a more peaceful time when none of this shit fucking happened. So I'm trying to passionately speak to any religious people who have brought their rhetoric over in violence. Time to fucking change. Just try to move forward. Try to not have people have this opinion rather than go, oh, no, this is going to bring hate onto us.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Tell us why we shouldn't hate you. Do things to stop people from fucking hating you. It's just been a horrible few years. got, you know, violence begets violence, and you said that before. And there's, and there's, and there's, I don't like, I don't like what this is going to do to the country, Amos. I don't like what this is going to do with the world. Right now, we have Donald Trump fucking chatting about, you know, like, like, oh, I won't
Starting point is 00:17:47 get into that Donald Trump. We'll get into, we'll get into, we're getting to, and I said to you on the phone when we were speaking before, as I said, liberalism is collapsing. Yeah. And the more violent people get, the human condition, ultimately, and we've seen it time and time again throughout history. And this is going to happen is when people get scared, they go to their groups. People will go to their groups for saying. People will pick aside. You have to pick
Starting point is 00:18:07 aside. And if you're in the middle and you're going, oh, I think this is wrong. I think that's wrong. Right now, people are writing underneath my comment on Instagram. Why won't you denounce Muslims? Why won't you denounce the Jews in Palestine? I don't want to denounce anyone, mate. I don't think, I don't think the religions are the problem, the individuals are the problem. The government's the fucking problem, right? I'd like to live in a world where we could all fucking live together and get along, but we can't be blaming, and like something like this can't happen, and then you can go to the people in Australia, oh, you guys better not fucking react to this. Well, give us a reason not to react.
Starting point is 00:18:42 When people talk about Western values, right, it's all about the individual, okay, and that we cannot judge groups of human beings and the behavior of other people, okay? That is like what we're fundamentally built on. That's our justice system. The fact that the Muslims stood in front of the upper house going, fuck the Jews, fuck the Jews, fuck the Jews, fuck the Jews, gas the Jews, gas the Jews, gas the Jews. if it was a group of white people standing in Harlem saying the N word over and over again, how do you think that would fucking play out?
Starting point is 00:19:08 The police wouldn't be protecting them, standing around protecting them. But that's why, and that's tearing people apart, as they say, if white people had such violent rhetoric, don't you worry about that? They'd be busted up something terrible. Yeah. Okay. And so what I was trying to say to you, though, is... Look, man, I don't hate anybody.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I don't want this podcast to be someone saying that I'm fucking full of hate or something, but shit has to fucking change. No, it's a lonely position. The not extremist position, it is a lonely position because it's like, you know, listen, you and I travel around the world. The right-wing people fucking hate me. The left-wing people fucking hate me. I'm just trying to be a moderate here.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I'm trying to speak what I think the masses actually think. I want to criticize what the government of Israel has done. I want to criticize what fundamentalist Islam is doing. I want to criticize individual racists for what they've done. And unfortunately, it gets harder and harder to take that nuanced position. Without people's thinking that you're criticizing. You're a cuck or an extremist, and that's your options that you've got. I have no problem with Muslims.
Starting point is 00:20:10 I have no problem with Jews. I have problem with extremists. But let me just crack down again. I just want to read you a couple of things about Anthony Albanese's government. Okay, so first of all, first of all, when I wrote that message and I said, they like to cover things up. Obviously, I was referring to my nephew and how they buried the helicopters of the 48 helicopter. in the desert. You can watch that on 60 minutes,
Starting point is 00:20:32 but this government's fucked, right? Now, a lot of people, because it's a Labor government, think that I'm a liberal voting fucking guy. I'm not happy with the liberal government either. Liberal government covered up my fucking nephews murder as well. You know what I mean? They voted against it.
Starting point is 00:20:47 And I don't want to go all one nation. I don't want to go all bloody greens. I'm disillusioned by both groups. So please don't think that this is me just going, fucking Labor government. No, but fuck Albanesey. Fuck me. Let me, let me, let me give you a couple of things here that it. So obviously, he's on the watch list. Okay, I'm just going to read you. This is from, this is from the ABC. Yeah. Yeah. Senior counterterrorism official has told the ABC, Navid and Sajid Akram, underwent military style training in the southern Philippines last month. The Philippines, a hot spot for Islamist militants since the early 1990s, right? I'm calling it Club Ahmed down there.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Okay. A little resort where they can go down and practice terrorism in the sun. what do you reckon R&R for terrorists You reckon it's all terrorist training Do you reckon there's any downtime Do you reckon they play any The beach volleyball
Starting point is 00:21:34 It's all sand Right what do you reckon There's a place for them To knock off of a few beers Yeah no Because you're not going to be Terrorist training all day It's like
Starting point is 00:21:42 Do you want to meet me in the bar Just to pull a bomb off You like you know What do you reckon the downtime's like Probably a few places You can sit down And let the little fish nibble your feet You know
Starting point is 00:21:52 You reckon you sit back And you talk about all the virgins You get to fucking heaven afterwards? You go, well, that'll be good. They put together a 72 version wish list for when they get home and complete their fucking mission. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:05 You know the way that World War II vets would pull out a picture of a woman that they're going to see when they get home from war? They put that on the dashboard of their plane. These guys have a really long wallet. All brunettes. So, anyway, they're at this... I have a type. They're at this jungle, doing that jungle gym.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Remember those fucking old ISIS videos? where those guys were going through the jungle gym and, you know, they practiced shooting because the guy did look like he knew his way to handle the bold action. So this makes sense now where he's had the training. Father's son, gunman, Sajid and Naveed traveled to the Philippines
Starting point is 00:22:39 to receive military style training. Here we go. Investigators are now examining the Akrams tied to an international jihadist network after discovering the pair traveled in early November and came back around November 29. The city is called Davao. is their final destination.
Starting point is 00:22:56 They returned on the 28th. So November 28th, they get home. Australia's intelligence agency, ASEO, had investigated Navid in 2019 of his associations with a Sydney-based Isis cell. A senior security source said Navid, then who was 18 years old, displayed indications of intent and associations of concern that were investigated by Azeo. Azeo found no evidence in a six-month investigation that the father and son had been radicalized. Now, this is the bit where Anthony Albania.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Easy. But that's okay. That's okay. You found no evidence. Fine. No, no. This is, this is, this is the fucking guns. No, no, this is the bit that's no good. So, AZO's job is to. If anyone does know, AZO is our CIA, CIA, for our American listeners. ASEO, CIA, FBI, ASEO and AIS. Now, this is from 2024. I'll read you a story from that time. Albanese government removes Azeo and AIS heads from the National Security Cabinet. The Anthony Arbenese government has initiated a major shift in Australia's intelligence operations, dumping the heads of ASEO and AIS from its National Security Committee of Cabinet.
Starting point is 00:24:03 They have removed the heads of our two terror watch groups, ASEO and AIS, out of national cabinet. And it says here, the intelligence community is growing increasingly concerned about the approach taken by the Arbenese government on national security. Under the coalition government, the head of ASEO and AIS were permanent members of the national Security Committee, which makes decisions of the highest risk and most urgent national security matters. The Intelligence Chief gave classified advice on issues affecting the security and sovereignty of the nation. But the nation's most senior bureaucrat, Glyn Davis, the Secretary of the Department
Starting point is 00:24:36 of Prime Minister, is understood to have removed them as permanent members. Instead, they are going to be invited to provide advice on a case-by-case basis. Asked why ACO and ASIS have been removed, they said, we don't comment on matters relating to national security. An ASIO spokesman said, members of cabinet committees is a matter for government and we have nothing further to say. Shadow Minister James Patterson said, this is a deeply reckless decision. It's very concerning to hear that the Albanese government has removed intelligence, heads from the critical committee of protecting Australians. They should have available best advice for expert agencies when making decisions of the national
Starting point is 00:25:17 interest, but that's hard if they're not in the room. anymore. No. Okay. So you have ASIO putting these guys on a watch list. You have them being able to buy guns in spite of that. Yeah. And then you have Anthony Albanesey saying you guys don't need to sit at the cabinet anymore
Starting point is 00:25:35 and we'll reach out to you. So don't call us. We'll call you. And that agency who had identified this person is no longer in the room. These people fly over to a terror camp, come back, get off the jungle gym and go to at Bondi Beach and kill 16 people. Now, if that was any other
Starting point is 00:25:55 organization. And many more still in hospital. Let's not forget the people are in critical condition in hospital at the moment. So what is the accountability of that? That's all I'm asking. Is it knowing that they got ASIS
Starting point is 00:26:07 at ASA off the cabinet? Has the government gone we've fucked up? No, of course they're not. No, you know what Albanese did today? He went and fucking got a glory pitcher and went and visited Ahmed in the hospital.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Ahmed, the hero, if you saw that. We're going to talk about Ahmed. But that's what Albanesey did today. Visited him and got some publicity fucking photos. So he says to me, and all other Australians, we're going to crack down on guns, which is an easy, that's the easiest thing to say. We'll crack down on guns. We'll crack down on guns.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Mate, crack down on the dangerous people you've already identified. Because you know what they'll get if they don't have guns? Knives. Look at the UK. Or like in the Christmas markets in... They'll drive a car. Europe. They'll drive a fucking car through there.
Starting point is 00:26:48 It's the person, not the weapon. Now, limiting the weapon they can get certainly minimises the amount of casualties. So just quickly, we can tighten the gun laws even slightly more. You know, like, no one needs six guns. You can agree with that, two, three, depending on the size of your farm or whatever. But for the most part, the gun laws are strict enough. I do think the gun laws are strict enough. And that's me.
Starting point is 00:27:14 That's me saying it. I've never felt they've lapsed. No. We've done very well. I put up there that in America, they've had 13,890 mass shootings, which is, I believe a mass shooting is four or more. I might be wrong, it might be three or more, but I believe it's four or more. And Australia's had six, and we've had three actual major ones.
Starting point is 00:27:35 We've had Port Arthur, the Lint chocolate shop, and now what's happened in Bondi. So it's substantially better stats there than in America, but this isn't a fucking pissing law, and I can talk those arguments all the time. As I said, the gun laws can be a little bit stricter. But this, when I was saying the government's to blame, I wasn't talking about the fucking gun laws.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I'm talking about the ASEO watch, the fact that these guys were allowed to go over and fucking train and all the type of stuff. Here's another one for you. It was so avoidable. It was so fucking avoidable. They have, they had ISIS flags in the car. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Do you get them on Amazon? Yeah, that's the whole thing. Do you craft those? Okay, so if you get, if anyone buys anything fucking Iiss-y off Amazon, put them on the watch list. I can just give them a go. Even if they're doing it as a Halloween outfit, stop being a fuck-wit. I remember my uncle was a stoner. He bought a bong once and was followed by the police.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Because, like, if you buy hydroponic equipment, they'll be like, you better be a tomato. You better be a green grocer, mate. If you, if you fucking want to catch Coke dealers, don't go after the cartels like that. find out who's buying little tiny Ziploc bags. If you can find them and they're not selling a shit ton of earrings, you've got your bloke. If you touch your mobile phone on the highway in Australia, the police will send the swap team for you.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Somehow, they've managed to miss the guy. Then again, they maybe got it from the gift shop at the Terror Resort. Hey, the Philippines, what to shut the Terror Resort down? What are we doing over there? I don't know they executed the drug dealers, but... I just flew in back from Ireland and Ireland you get to check.
Starting point is 00:29:15 in through American Customs, Wall Street and Ireland. So you land in the domestic ward, which is actually the domestic terminal, which is actually a lot better. But as I was going through, and I handed my passport, and I handed it over. Now, if you look at my hands there, the guy goes, why is your hands shaking? That's what the bloke said behind the counter. And like this, and I said, my hands have always shaken. They just have shaky hands, right?
Starting point is 00:29:36 You know, maybe, why you've got an ISIS flag? I don't know. Why did you just go to the Philippines for a little while, Ahmed? I think the problem with the ISIS flag is we don't read the Arabic that's on it. So it could be like, it could say anything. As I said, it's not in English. This whole idea of Muslims, a religion of love, it is for many, many people, a religion of love.
Starting point is 00:30:00 For probably most people who read the Quran see the good in it, but some people see the fucking bad. Some people can control themselves with alcohol. Some people fucking can't, right? These guys couldn't control themselves with religion and here the fuck we are. And as an atheist, you know, I'd like to say, once I've said it a few times over my career, all religion shit. It all gets in the fucking way. And here we are.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Now, some positive stories. No, no, no, no, positive stories about the event. Yeah, oh, yes. Because by the same flip of the coin, we have heroes who stood up on the day, and one of them, Ahmed al-Armad, the Syrian refugee, is that man. But as time has gone on, there's others, which... Well, let's just talk about him just very quickly, because with Ahmed, we all saw the footage of this man who hid behind a car, waited until he was reloading or pulling the bolt back on the gun.
Starting point is 00:30:58 And then he came behind, he ripped the gun out of him. A lot of people are like, well, why did he not shoot the bloke? Because it's fucking hard to shoot a person. Maybe he's never held a gun. Maybe also, because he was an Arab, he might have thought that people will think that he's the terrorist and then he gets shot. so he did what he could put the
Starting point is 00:31:14 the gun against the tree the guy went back shot him and I believe he got shot in the leg and all the stuff his army got shot in the leg and now a lot of including I believe Netanyahu went like this oh it was a Christian they were saying it was a Lebanese Christian in the news there was a lot of false
Starting point is 00:31:30 information coming about who did it he was a Muslim and thank fuck he was right because you know look as much as I would have been proud of a blonde surfer dude coming up from the beach and actually doing it it would have been wonderful if he did it as well. But I think Ahmed,
Starting point is 00:31:46 he didn't just disarm the terrorist. He disarmed the country. What an amazing thing he did in that moment. That was John Howard. Yeah. But you know what I mean? Like he disarmed us our emotions a little bit because my father, same thing,
Starting point is 00:32:03 straight on the phone. What a legend. What a fucking legend. Right? I put out a post about him. What a legend. What an Aussie legend. And then everyone's like this.
Starting point is 00:32:10 He's a green grocer. He's a fruit. We used to have Con the Fruder. It was a TV show when I was a guy. It was a fat, like a Greek guy that used to say a couple of days and all this type of bullshit. Anyway. You know how I'm describing, you know how I'm describing this guy?
Starting point is 00:32:24 He's Con the Fruder up, but played by Sylvester Stallone. Yeah. Okay. And the thing is, a lot of people are like, a lot of people, I think there's a million dollars being raised on a GoFundMe to give him. Yes. But some people have gone, we should all go down to his fruit shop and buy all the fruit. And I'm like, I don't know if that's the answer either. He hasn't been manning
Starting point is 00:32:47 the station for a little while and fruits are perishable. It would be one thing if the guy owned a furniture store, right? If the guy ain't a furniture store, I'm down there all the day buying myself a lazy boy recliner. No problems. No problems. But fruit, I've got six pounds of cum quots rotting away here. Just give him the cash. Like go get a couple of green bananas that are probably perfect right now, perfect. There have been a couple of days. They're probably right, right. It was amazing how quickly we did,
Starting point is 00:33:18 that he was the light of the day that people were so in love with this man. And there's not a dude on the planet. Let me ask you this. Okay. They looked at that and thought, what would I have done? Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Do I have, in the moment, every young man, they dream of a couple of things, scoring a winning goal in whatever sport you like around the world. And also, would I be a hero? Could I be a hero? Could I do that?
Starting point is 00:33:42 Now, I suspect I wouldn't be. You don't know what you would do in a situation. You don't know how you'd handle yourself in a situation, fight or flight, whether the adrenaline would kick in and maybe you could be a hero. I know that I've had a machete held to my throat. I had someone broke into my house. And the decision I made in that moment was to do what the person who broke in said and hopefully would get out of it okay.
Starting point is 00:34:06 And it turned out to be the right decision. But the whole time I was there, I was tied up and I wiggled my hand out of the, out of the, it wasn't rope, I was tied up with a power cord. And I remember thinking, I had a little cut on me and I remember thinking, should I get up and tackle this bloke right now? And I was, I mean, I was thinking about it the whole time. So I actually been put in a situation and I decided, I thought, yeah, he's going to leave, right? Now, in that situation, let's be honest, we've seen enough shootings in America. Ahmed is one in seven billion, man. Like, I don't think there's many of us.
Starting point is 00:34:42 There's, you know, look, maybe we'll find out that he's not that bright or something like that. You know, that's why he could do it. I don't know, because, you know, I hope not. Yeah. Either that or we find out when he's in the hospital right now, he has extremely terminal cancer. Oh, yeah. I don't know. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Look, I would, I would jump through really bad chemo. There's things that I would jump in front of a bullet to save some children or something like. that i would i would cover up a a lady or something like put my body in front of somebody could i actually run up and tackle another person i was talking i was talking to my brother that takes that takes ballser still so my brother's much uh stronger than i is it you know he's done his jujitsu and a sort of shit you know he's a polities instructor and i said and i said to him yeah i what would have you done and my brother goes what would have you done and i said i probably would have fucking if i was doing anything i said i would have probably sprinted over and gone for the king hit and instantly
Starting point is 00:35:35 my brother's like, yeah, that's why you'd be dead. Like, if you miss... You asked me this. Would you go king hit? I said, no, I would try to wrap him up like a boxer would. So the gun barrel is faced away from me so that I would get some distance between me and the end of the pointy bit of the gun by getting too close to him. You said, I'd go up and king hit him and then you'd be on your toes, would you?
Starting point is 00:35:55 You'd be on your fucking toes. You'd be ducking and woo and missing bullets. And my brother was like, you're an idiot. You've got to grab, you go from the back of the neck and you get the gun out of there. But he was an old... Listen, they're going. I wasn't in great fucking Nick, by the way, this fucking Sejid, and this is where I want to go to next.
Starting point is 00:36:11 That was the second time he had his gun stripped. So, all I heard about was Armad. I just want to add in, who was the young fellow, the bloke who came in and threw the rock. I like that. He threw a shoe, I think it was a rock. No, I said it was a shoe. I think it was a rock.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Was it? I think it was a rock. There's another bloke that after Ahmed tackles him, the guy goes and stands back like this, and he's looking at him like, why haven't you shot me? What was the conversation between those two men then? When he disarmed and he was pointing the gun, they were saying something to each other. What do you reckon the conversation was?
Starting point is 00:36:42 I don't know, because there is. I saw other video footage where he was telling people that weren't the Jews at the event to basically go away, like this isn't for you. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, I imagine it would have been about, this is not about you, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:36:57 And I think, I think Ahmed was probably saying, what are you doing? Why would you fucking do this? Well, there's a few different ones. What about the guy when he was shot and they were both subdued? There was a guy that stomped him on the head. Yeah. You got arrested?
Starting point is 00:37:12 You got briefly arrested. Listen to him talking to the news. You ready for this? One of the shooters was in a pretty bad way. He actually died. The other one was in a pretty true of a critical condition, but people were just stomped on his head. I got a pretty good dog shot on his head as well, but I feel like it was pretty well
Starting point is 00:37:28 to serve considering the circumstances. You stomped on the shooter's head. Yeah, bare foot. So the young guy, the 24-year-old. Yeah, the guy from one-year-e. Yeah, I gave him, I gave my dog shot. First of all, why did you have to pick the clip that had the fun music playing in the background? Like this, right?
Starting point is 00:37:51 Like, do-da-da-do-do-dum. So I stomped on his head. I gave him a dog shot. I didn't know it was called a dog shot. And it's like, obviously a bloke who's down the beach you had to do it barefoot. I didn't even have any thongs on. Just putting a fucking heal in there. Yeah, because he did it late at night, I could walk on the concrete.
Starting point is 00:38:07 It wasn't that fucking hot. If he did this at 2pm, I would have had a shoe on. Now, there was the guy that did the dog shot. Yeah, dog shot. Athro on the rock. Ahmed El Ahmed, who obviously is the Australian of the year, and we'll talk about that further. Now, there's another couple that was forgotten, and it's come to light today.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Boris and Sophia German. Have you heard of them? You wouldn't have. No, I've not heard of Boris and Sophia German. German? Are they, they, they, they, they're German or? No, they're, they're Russian Jews. Russian Jews, okay, okay. Now, they're, they're, they're dead, sadly, but there's footage on the, on a car dash cam where they, once again with Sajid, uh, the guy that got disarmed by Ahmed, they wrestled with him on the side of the road when he, next to his car and they stripped the
Starting point is 00:38:57 gun from him and had a fight. And sadly for them, there, they were 69 and 61 years. old and didn't quite have the strength to overpower him. And even though they had a tussle on the floor, he regained his composure, picked up the gun and finished them off. And so those people were forgotten in this. They were originally just counted as the dead. But now because of the footage we've seen that these two people in their, what, one 69, 169, one 69, tried to disarm the guy and in doing so lost their life.
Starting point is 00:39:24 And so a GoFundMe has been set up for their family as well. And other people are also saying that's another hero of the day that they stepped up in that moment. So I thought it was well worth mentioning their names as well because obviously everything's been about Ahmed El Ahmed because we had the video footage. But Boris and Sophia German, remember those names.
Starting point is 00:39:44 They also stepped up. And then here's another story that came to my attention. This one in the New York Post. Another man here we go. We're going to this guy took the gun off. So just, first all with the go-farmie, is the go-firmie?
Starting point is 00:40:02 I have issues with some gofummies because a lot of them are bullshit. And I have people asking me to donate to gofummies all the time because they have a relative that is sick or something like that. And it turns out to be more. This is another one set up by Bill Ackman, the American billionaire, who set up the one for Ahmed Al-Amed. He gave Ahmed $100,000. And I believe he's setting up another one that's going to their family. Okay. Well, I'll say it right now.
Starting point is 00:40:29 You know, Ahmed's already been getting a lot of donations. and since these two haven't been mentioned very much and they gave up their lives and I'm sure they have children and grandchildren and what have you. I'll be donating $1,000 to myself right now. Here you go, yeah, that's very lovely. Newly revealed video footage shows a couple of their 60s.
Starting point is 00:40:48 That's American as well, not a strain. I want to put that in. I want to make that well known. It's American currency. And I have a thousand but. No, I, that's, that's, that's, I always try to give a bit of money Christmas for something, but no, yeah, no, that's... The Germans were married for 34 years, Boris, a retired mechanic, known for generosity.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Sophia German worked for the Australian Postal Service and was loved by her colleagues. She worked for the Postal Service, so they weren't minted with money, were they? Bondi locals, together they lived on us, hardworking lives, and they treated everyone they met with kindness, warmth and respect. The family, Boris and Sophia were devoted to their family. Yeah, the footage is horrible. They're just trying to wrestle the gun out of his hands and he won. So that just shows you with Ahmed El Ahmed.
Starting point is 00:41:42 You don't just sneak up behind and strip the gun of a terror. There is consequences if you get it wrong. No, no, no. Look, as a person who's a father, I don't know in all good consciousness, I could even tackle a person because I'd be thinking of my kids being without a father. and all the type of stuff, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:42:00 So the ultimate sacrifice. There's another one that I was trying to find. A guy took the gun off them and then was shot by the police. This is another guy. Now, we don't have his name. A man who rushed in to help disarm. One of the terrorists who fired at the crowd in Australia's famous Bondi beach was mistakenly shot by the police and tackled by bystanders,
Starting point is 00:42:17 the heroic civilian, who was only described as a Middle Eastern refugee, living with his Australian wife and kids, was in Bondi when the attack began. harrowing video shows the moment the Good Samaritan ran up the bridge where the gunmen were fighting from after one of them was hit by police returning fire. And sadly for him, the man sneaks up on the down shooter and begins
Starting point is 00:42:40 kicking the rifle out of his hands before the gunman can grab it. The quick-thinking civilian then begins to raise his hands and back away from the scene, but gunfire continues to ring out. He yells don't shoot, don't shoot. The man was shot during a chaotic scene that followed with videos showing members of the public running in and attacking him as they mistook
Starting point is 00:42:56 him as one of the assailants. The injured man was pinned to the ground by the mob, with police running in to break up the scene and secure the area. And there's, he was another refugee that just moved over the country to live a safer life. No, he died. I'm saying he moved to the country. I don't know whether he's dead on it. It just says mistakenly shot.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I don't have here his name. If there's a go-farmie for that bloke as, go-family for that bloke as well, I'll do another thousand. So on a light note, you said something to me that made me laugh. I've said many things over the year. About Ahmed, which was, so we have a thing called Australian of the year when we hand out the award. So it happens on January 26th. Australian of the year is for the Australian of the year, the person who deserves, who is the, who is the best of us, right? Who deserves the award? And normally it goes to somebody who has done something in the medical field.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Occasionally, if it's on a bit of a low year, they might find some actor who's done well or something. But for the most part, it's people have done something heroic or something that has saved lives. Yeah, a discovery. They took a stand. Maybe it's Phil Olivetti. Maybe they've done something like the lead singer from Yothi, Yon, they've moved forward
Starting point is 00:44:17 society in some way. And, you know, I bet you there's some doctor who, he's been working for years he or she's been working for years and he's invented this thing that goes in a valve in the heart and he's like he's he's already got the suit tailored he's got a cabinet he's got a he's got a glass little perspect box where the where the award's going to go he has a position in his house i'm a fucking shoe in this thing has saved many lives and then he's watching fucking armad tackle this bloke and he's gone oh this is fucking bullshit yeah his his his wife is just like, oh, you look at this amazing hero.
Starting point is 00:44:56 And he watches it and he goes, love, book the tickets to Hamilton Island. But what about the Australian of the Year ceremony? No, no, no, I tell you what right now, the TAB, which is the gambling place in Australia where you go and put your beds or Ladbrooks for people in the UK or fucking whatever, how short odds is Ahmed right now for Australian in the year? He's got to be, if you put a hundred bucks on, you'll get a hundred one back if he wins it, I reckon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Oh, that first interview he gives with the public, you got to... I always think about that, that's stressful. What, because what if Ahmed Al-Amed has lived the life of... I'm not... No, no, no, I'm just being silly. I'm with you because some fucking dodgy journalist, it won't be enough for him that he's... Someone's looking right now for something in... Yeah, someone's...
Starting point is 00:45:44 Some fucking cunt right now is looking if some, you know, in 1984 he slapped his wife or something, something stupid like that. We're not saying he did do any of these things. Something stupid. We're hoping. Yeah, no, no, it's not good. He slapped his wife, you know, something trivial. No, not trivial, not trivial.
Starting point is 00:46:03 That is a stupid thing to do. I'm saying that's a stupid thing to do, right? But right now someone's trying to find dirt on Ahmed just so they can get their little news article out right now. I hope that I don't find anything. And I hope he doesn't do his first interview. And he goes, the reason I tackled him is because I assumed he was a homosexual.
Starting point is 00:46:23 If he says anything like that, we're going to have problems, right? Or he's like, the guy owed me 300 bucks. Yeah. He's got a tab at the fruit shop, but he simply hasn't paid. I had no idea what else was going. I fucking hate that gun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I said, that's Sajid, the asshole.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Oh, man. Because you wake up in the hospital. That's two interesting wake-ups, right, to wake up in the hospital and you're a hero and you've been tested as your character and you've come out the other side like they say about veterans who go to war you find out your character in the moments of fire
Starting point is 00:47:02 and he found out his character and he's this beloved guy now and then the other option is you wake up and you're that guy and your dad's dead and you're a terrorist and you didn't die and go to paradise you are the most loved man in the world you're handcuffed to the bed
Starting point is 00:47:18 you're handcuffed to the bed and you sit there going all right, how's the other bloke doing? Is he all right? I remember when I was young, do you think he knows, did he see his father die or was he already wounded by the time his father died? Because it'd be nice to tell him, wouldn't it?
Starting point is 00:47:34 It'd be a fun thing to tell him. Okay, so one other thing that we wanted to discuss on this. First of all, just everybody, just look, just, I know at the moment that we're all going through anger at the moment and all that sort of stuff. and but just it's Christmas just try to love each other try to try to let things play out how they're going to play out us going down to the beach with flags tied around our neck saying
Starting point is 00:48:01 these cunts need to go home will solve nothing solve absolutely nothing unless you're in Canberra and then I cut it well you protest if you want peaceful protest if you want but I just like to know what is I'm not about open borders I think that we should have stricter restrictions. Even in America, I feel like people walking over the border on top of stuff, I feel like the borders are a little bit too open.
Starting point is 00:48:27 I believe in immigration where you come into a country legally, where you take the test. I'm an immigrant myself, and I had to work to get into a couple of countries now in my life. But this is something that's fallen through the cracks. And when I say crack, it was a fucking crevice like this that you could have seen a mile away. You know, the problem is,
Starting point is 00:48:47 Someone has dropped the ball. Any occupation you go into, there's good people, shit people, great people, and fucking shit, really fucking shit people at their jobs. And some really fucking shit person at their job is fucking to blame. And they won't own up. They just left some file. They didn't fucking go over and see him. They approved the gun license, whatever it may be.
Starting point is 00:49:11 But someone dropped the ball fucking massively here. Like I wanted to say was, I have so much rate. about the government allowing this to happen just because I know that me I'm a 33 year old man who travels solo around the world right yeah I get stopped by American customs and dragged into rooms and they say why did you go to this country by yourself what were you doing over here you seem to travel a lot who pays for your travel what were you doing over there and if if these islands are known to be a place where people train for for ISIS I just think coming back into the country, it does annoy me that I'm pulled into rooms all the time. I understand that.
Starting point is 00:49:51 I know they can do it. And it annoys me. And I go, okay, whatever. They think I'm a drug runner because I'm a single man who's traveling to too many places or whatever. Come on, man. This island. As I said the other day, I got done because my hands shaking. And the next thing he said, he goes, you seem to go to a lot of places. And I said, I'm a traveling comedian. I go city to city. I've just been to 30 cities over 60 days. You know what I mean? And he went, all right. Gunk, dunk, dunk, stamp, off you go.
Starting point is 00:50:20 One time, I get pulled into a room. I'm coming into the UK. And I get pulled into a room because I've just been in Afghanistan. I was in Afghanistan entertaining the troops. I was out there for a couple of weeks. And why were you in Afghanistan? I was being paid to go to Afghanistan by the UK government. And the UK people pulled me into a room and said,
Starting point is 00:50:45 why are you in Afghanistan now they don't know that I was being paid by the government all they see is a stamp and a passport I understand what happened there but if I looking like this fucking you know what you think I was going out there on vacation can't you think I was fucking out there trying to you know what I mean yeah I had I had a video camera this is before you had cameras on your phone and I said I said oh I if you look on the footage you'll see me hanging out with soldiers and stuff you know what I mean like I probably thought you're at the they thought you're at the Taliban comedy store they They, they, they, La Afghanistan, right?
Starting point is 00:51:18 And, and, um, and they, they, uh, they, uh, they, they, uh, they, they, uh, they, they, I showed him the footage, that's such a stuff, but if you're a couple of blokes, did they both go out or one of them go out to the train? I think they went together. Like I said, father, father, son trip. They did it all together. Ah, the bitches, we're going to get in heaven together, dad. Hey.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Oh, we're going to be needy. And also, what, what happened to these? That, the, the, the, that, the, I believe there was a wife. right um what happens to her do she just get locked up i'm like because she should because the chances of her not knowing any of this is fucking none yeah well i don't know is a Muslim radical Islamic faith uh do they include women in their plans there's there's things that they just know for sure he has stockpiled guns yeah uh when he says the word jew he always puts the word the in front of it and an s on the end of it
Starting point is 00:52:14 you know what I mean like like he never he never says oh you know well you know it's not just like oh they they they they like money it's not like that level of slur they really fucking go for it right so the chances of like fuck her fuck her fuck their fucking family fuck them fuck them look you have that we have nation look i'll say this if one of my sons carried out 9-11 i'd expect to go to prison and go all right then i don't want to speak ill of your sons, but I don't see them having the capabilities. So. They don't have the money for the plane tickets,
Starting point is 00:52:52 mate. Just knowing your sons, I don't think they'd wake up in the morning. They'd miss the alarm. It wouldn't be a morning, it wouldn't be a morning flight. What do you get? Oh yeah. Old Hank would do it at 4 p.m.
Starting point is 00:53:06 What are we doing, Dad? So, from that horrible news to some more. Some more horrible news, man. Some more horrible news. I woke up the next morning and saw that Rob Reiner and his wife, Michelle. Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Is it Michelle? Yes. Were slain in their home. I thought, oh my God, what on earth is this some orchestra? Rob Ryan, a very outspoken person. What is someone broken in there because of his political views? Yeah, I instantly thought, my brother sent me in. Rex. Rob Reiner and his wife have been murdered. And my brain went straight to home invasion
Starting point is 00:53:51 that's gone wrong. And no, no, he was killed by his son, Nick, who was a drug addict, who had been in and out of rehab from the age of 15. And Robert had had a very strained relationship as you do with anyone who's a drug addict who you have to pay you to go into rehab all the time, especially when you have a couple of other kids who have turned out great. nice sweet kids and then you got this one kid that you know you never stop loving your children you put everything into trying to make them whole trying to make them happy there's there's a there's there's a movie i think it's called about charlie or something like that and it's a movie that rob nick riner wrote whilst in rehab about his uh life um growing up with a silver spoon in
Starting point is 00:54:36 his mouth and still being a drug addict there with a dad who didn't understand you know what mean and you watch the trailer to that movie and it just looks like the fucking pissing of a petty little fucking brat of a kid who's like dad the reason i i uh i take the drugs is to stop the noise a lot of people think that i uh i was born with a silver spoon but i used that to spoon to cook up some heroin you know what i mean like fuck you mate fuck you um i have someone i know who has a drug addict um daughter and uh and they had to give up on her in the end. Eventually, you just have to give up on people. Gordon Ramsey has his brother, I believe he's put him in rehab five or six times, maybe more, maybe more. He's talked about it
Starting point is 00:55:20 on different podcasts and even on different cooking shows he does. And he had to just give up on that guy. And that guy used to sell the big issue out the front of the Glasgow Johnlers when you'd be leaving late at night. You go, fuck that junkie looks a lot like Gordon Ramsey. So here's some story that I think is. Well, I just, I just want to give you this. Let me give be the story and then you, I know you get Rob and you want to scare that. So I just get through the story bit. So this is crazy.
Starting point is 00:55:47 He goes to Conan O'Brien's Christmas party. The night before. Yes, the night before. And my immediate feeling was Jim not invited. Careers on the slide. Fuck, I was out of the country still. I was out of the country. How do you know I wasn't invited? Jack, was I invited?
Starting point is 00:56:04 Yeah. I was invited. I was invited. So, Conan O'Brien Christmas party and it said there had a huge argument between Rob Reiner, his wife and the son, Nick. And the story has continued to grow on news agencies reporting. This is where TMZ wet themselves, don't they? The TMZ people are right there in getting themselves into that party and what happened. And they're reporting that, so the Reiner's left.
Starting point is 00:56:35 There was a huge blow up. and the story is now saying that Nick Reiner had an argument with Bill Hader at the party okay so it says Nick Rainer and the words that they've used is went up to Bill Hader while he was having a private
Starting point is 00:56:52 conversation Nick Riner knows this is the New York Post Nick Riner stormed off after getting into tiff with comedian Bill Hader at Conan O'Brien's Christmas party he stormed off in a huff after a tiff with comedy heavyweight Bill Hater. Apparently, the S&L alum, we don't need his credits right now. We know who
Starting point is 00:57:14 fucking Bill Hater is, was in the middle of it. He said, told Nick, sorry, I'm in the middle of a private conversation. The source said Nick just stood there and stared scarily before storming off. The unsettling interaction concerned the party goers. Nick attended the star-studded event with his parents, Robert Michelle, where the trio also reportedly got into a loud argument possibly because Nick was back on drugs and refusing to go to yet another treatment the source told the post so then they go home from that and then supposedly around that time he kills his parents now stabbed them go slit their throats slid the throats and stabbed the the slitting the throats is harder than the stabbing
Starting point is 00:57:58 the stabbing actually holding like mother and father terrible terrible terrible I can't the level of sociopathy and depersonalization you have to have to believe that you're the most important fucking person in the world that someone wouldn't talk at you at the party and then obviously you get in the car and your dad goes why were you bothering that guy you embarrassed us we took you to the party just why is it every time about you nick every time right and then here we fucking are you know what i mean like and also this cunt was never getting sober right the only time he's getting sober is right Now, right now he's fucking sober.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Right now the drugs are leaving his system and he's fucking stewing in a... Well, he's on suicide watch as we speak. As he should speak. At this exact moment, it says Nick Rayna has hired defense attorney Alan Jackson in his parents' murder case. And he'll plead insanity the little fucking the weasel fuck. You watch. Many years ago when I was doing the Jim Jeffery show, we had...
Starting point is 00:59:04 we had Rob Reiner on the show. We had Billy Crystal's daughter used to work on the show, and Billy Crystal clearly was one of Rob Reiner's very best friends. I don't know if that's where the booking came from. Anyway, Rob was on the show. He was promoting the Lyndon Johnson movie with Woody Harrelson.
Starting point is 00:59:25 And it's the first time I'd ever been sent a movie before. Like when I was an interviewer person where they went, we're sending you the movie a month before. it gets into cinema so you can have a watch and he showed up on set oh is that the time that you put it onto um the pirate bay after that is this that time that would have been the time yes that's the time yes and uh and then uh rob bryner before the interview i never met the man very excited to meet the guy who directed all these great comedies and a comedy actor himself
Starting point is 00:59:56 he he was so interested in what i thought about his movie what did you think of the film what did you think about like he was asking me this off camera he was then we were talking was the middle of the me too movement the interviews online we talked about um how women should feel protected on set or whatever but my i i was hesitant i haven't put up a picture of me and him together i know a lot of actors have who have probably worked with him all i did was spend an hour with the man but all i can tell you this he was warm and kind to the highest level jack you're remember meeting him on set, just the nicest man in the world. And we interviewed other people in that show, but no one stuck with me more than
Starting point is 01:00:40 Rob Reiner. And I was thinking, what a fucking quality dude. Because he grew up in Hollywood. His father was a famous man before him. His father's a legend. And, you know, I was reading an article today about it, and it said in there, imagine Mel Brooks right now. Mel Brooks has outlived him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:53 What must that be? Like, Mel Brooks has seen one of his best friends, Carl Rainer die, and then his son die at the hand of the kid that he knew from when he was born. Like, you know, and the same as like, you know, Larry David, Billy Crystal, who apparently saw them slain in, just like, fucking so grim. And listen, a genuine movie titan, and I'm going to move to this. Legend. And no one, no one ever ever had a bad word to say about him, except for one fucking man,
Starting point is 01:01:21 one fucking man who had to make it all about him. And I go in between like, oh, sometimes I think, oh, sometimes Trump did that right, sometime Trump did that wrong. I used to be Trump is everything wrong about him. Everything's wrong. The guy's a fucking menace, it's right. And then every now and again,
Starting point is 01:01:37 I go, oh, maybe he did that well. I try to look at him objectively. You can't read what he said about Carl Reiner, about Rob Reiner. You can't see what he said about Rob Reiner and objectively go,
Starting point is 01:01:49 oh, well, he might have been right. And if you look at the fucking comments underneath what he says, you'll still get fucking Trump sycophants. He'll be like this. Oh, well, he killed him because he didn't agree with his politics.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Yes, that's what happened. He went to that party. He came home and then went, oh, dad doesn't like Trump. I'm going to slit mum and dad's fucking throat, right? And the idea, you read what Donald Trump said. So I'll set up for people that don't know. So I'm sorry, by the way, when he did die, if you don't know Rob Reinder's online stuff, huge Trump hater, very political.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Huge Trump hater. He's always very actively going against Donald Trump. I believe we talked about it in the interview. Yeah, once Trump, you know, wanted Trump in prison. blah blah blah blah blah and very very very uh democrat party as is his right many many conservative figures on my Twitter feed that I follow were coming out saying who gives a fuck the man's an absolute American icon
Starting point is 01:02:45 his movies love them I'm talking many many many very very conservative American figures were saying who I don't care about that this man's a genius I loved his work it's devastating that he's gone many say, Princess Bride, I still put it on when I'm going through a dark time, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. When Harry met Sally may be the greatest romantic comedy of all time. And then I saw people sharing a Donald Trump post.
Starting point is 01:03:08 And it was so, it was so in poor taste, I legitimately went to Truth Social, which I downloaded Truth Fucking Social, and I went, I bet this is AI because I don't think he wrote that. I thought, surely not. This is his Truth Social Post. A very sad thing happened last night in Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:03:27 So far, so good. Rob Ryder, a tortured and struggling, but once very talented movie director and comedy star, already veering. First of all, tortured and struggling, wasn't tortured. And struggling, the man was 78 years old. What does he call retired people? Fucking struggling. Like, how is he struggling? He's still a working director at 78.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Carry on. Has passed away together with his wife, Michelle, reportedly, due to the anger he caused others through his massive unyielding and incurable affliction with a mind-cripling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome, sometimes referred to as TDS. He was known to have driven people crazy by his raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump,
Starting point is 01:04:12 continuing to speak in the third person, with his obvious paranoia reaching new heights as the Trump admin surpassed all goals and expectations of greatness, and with the golden age of America upon us, perhaps like never before, may Rob and Michelle rest. in peace. Fuck you.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Fuck you, dude. Fuck you, man. Like, how fucking dare you? If you got nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all, man. Like, just, you don't even have to comment, mate. You don't even have to comment. It was one of the most, like, the narcissism we all know is there. And there's times with Donald Trump where that narcissistic personality just sort of provides
Starting point is 01:04:51 great entertainment and that's why he's charming and loved. And there's other times where you look at it. And people I know that love him, looking at it going, well, when he gets it wrong, he is just a fucking loathable cunt of a bloke. You know what I mean? Even if he just said, sad thing happened last night. We should probably stop saying these things.
Starting point is 01:05:09 We might get murdered by family members right now because of our Trump diso. What is it called? TDS. I don't know whether when he's. I've got Trump derangement syndrome. Facking, I better watch me back. I've got Trump derangement syndrome. I thought he was going to drain the swamp.
Starting point is 01:05:24 So that was, I was deranged. No, the only swamp is his fucking testicles that he's fucking drains on Epstein Island every now again. So Thomas Massey, Republican that I quite like, he wrote this. Regardless of how you felt about Rob Rana, this is inappropriate and disrespectful discourse about a man who was just brutally murdered.
Starting point is 01:05:46 I guess my GIP colleagues, the vice president and the White House staff will just ignore it because they're afraid. I challenge any one of you to come out and defend this statement. Yeah, is J.D. Vance come out and said, well, what the president tried to, have they done the thing where they asked that press secretary lady and they go, what did you mean by that? And she goes, well, everyone likes that he's a street shooter and that's why we're, I'm going to ask my dad what he thought of that fucking comment. Because my dad fucking loves Trump. I'll get into an argument over the Christmas table on that one, I think. That'll be me one this year. That'll keep my dad from talking about the Muslims, you see. So what I'll do is I'll bring up Rob Ryan and Trump as a diversion. Like, Rob, okay, Breitbart News just put this out there, which I find interesting. This is another term to the story. Michelle Singer, who was just murdered, Rob Raina's wife, was the photographer who took
Starting point is 01:06:37 the photo for the original cover on Trump's book, The Art of the Deal. Yeah. So he knows the wife. He knows them. He knows them. Met them. Now, listen, here's what I understand. You can hate, he can hate the guy.
Starting point is 01:06:49 He is, those two are fighting. They were fighting to the fucking. end, you know, Rob Reiner was like he's got to go to jail. He was making, you know, documentaries. He hated him so much. You just go, just say nothing, brother. Yeah. And also, look, one less person that fucking hates you.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Take the fucking win and shut up, you can't. Right? You know, you know, like the biggest victim in the whole thing now is, is Rob Reiner's other son and other daughter who are now, their whole family's over. It's over. they have to hate their brother and miss their parents right and now they have the leader of the free world telling them that their dad was basically a piece of shit in their opinion who had a
Starting point is 01:07:33 deranged mind because he didn't like one other person on earth and then that's why you die almost insinuating this is what will happen to others if you don't like me as well what a fucking cunt yeah i couldn't really imagine many other famous artists dying and the president at the time putting out a statement yeah do you know what i mean no like just just what that one really got me sorry that one got me really i mean i was already in a bad way with the bond i thing and i watched that and i just i just had that thing i'm like i'm fucking sick it like the world is just so toxic i'm then this can just fuck off mate fuck off yeah yeah yeah like it was one thing when he when he made it a series of promises to his supporters to make all these accomplishments and he's done fuck
Starting point is 01:08:24 all that he offered by the way and he's a prick because i know a lot of people who go i don't agree with the way he expresses himself sometimes but you know he's going to get in there and shake up the the duopoly of the parties and then he fails to accomplish what he was originally setting out to do and then he's just uh all you left with is the nastiness so that was uh So to summarize, we will be recording a Christmas episode after this that will be released on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day. It's going to be a lot lighter. This was, this was...
Starting point is 01:09:00 There was the stuff I did about the father's son on the... No, no, no, no, no. Terror Island? Mate, if we had more laughs, we would have been fucking scumbags. I'm happy with the level of laughter we got out of this show, and that's all I can do. And if you're sitting, if you're sitting listening in your car, and all that type of stuff and you go
Starting point is 01:09:19 that wasn't as fun as usual but wasn't our audio better isn't it nice that we're back home so take the wins knock knock knock who's there not ASIO good one
Starting point is 01:09:31 good not ASIO who and then you go don't tweet who don't tweet out nasty jokes yeah yeah I'm just sneezing like a motherfucker that's uh have you got anything to share on a that's that's that's t ds mate it's t ds it's
Starting point is 01:09:52 it's my trump derangement syndrome it's going around this time of year it's going through your system right now td s you don't want to get it you don't want to get i hear it's sexually transmitted as well if if you go near a cunt it reminds you a trump uh all right well look ladies and gentlemen i think that's uh we said what we said um and if you're a feeling like, if you're feeling critical of ice or the economy or America's foreign policy or Donald Trump making fentanyl a weapon of mass destruction so he can go into Venezuela and start a new war, go to get yourself checked by a doctor because TDS kills. You might have a bit of TDS. Check your testicles and your breasts.
Starting point is 01:10:37 All right. But TDS. Anyway, goodnight, Australia. And. to all the families and everything obviously we've got we should end on saying absolute condolences to everybody that was affected by this and to our country of Australia I feel I feel bad not being there
Starting point is 01:11:00 I do feel it's weird when you're away in a moment like that I said to you on the phone man Australia is so supportive of the whole world I haven't seen one fucking Australian flag hung out on me. Let's bring that up. Yeah. Where is the support for Australia, apart from terrible what happened in Australia?
Starting point is 01:11:21 France has a massacre and all of a sudden we put up filters on our Facebook over our pictures. Anytime there's a massacre anywhere else in the world, you'll see the Sydney Opera House lit up with the flag of the country that has been affected. Give Australia a bit of support. to the Brits, to the Americans. We've fought in every fucking war with you.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Give us a bit of support. I'm heading off in third, an hour and a half to the Ozzy Bar in New York. They're having a vigil tonight. And then the Ashes begins. So I'm really looking forward to getting around to Spain to New York. So the Ashes is the cricket tournament that's going on. That's a bit queer. Could we have the vigil the day after?
Starting point is 01:12:01 No, no. Wait to wait, wait, wait to a Wednesday. Two birds. one stone yeah well look you watch what's going to happen at that cricket game that minute silence right there you watch what's going to fucking happen
Starting point is 01:12:16 Australia mourns the dead with dignity mate and I sometimes look I'm ashamed of what happened I'm angry well not even ashamed I'm angry what happened in Australia but I think Australia is going to make me proud
Starting point is 01:12:32 in moments of real crisis and I saw this with my nephew. We're very good at coming together and we're very good at not just going thoughts and prayers and putting things under the carpet except for those helicopters that are obviously buried in the desert. But the actual general public
Starting point is 01:12:49 will handle this very well, and I'm sure they will. Good up. You know, I'm going to be. Thank you. Thank you.

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