I Don't Know About That - ATM: Episode 5 - The Village People Want to Sue Us

Episode Date: February 11, 2025

At this moment... Jim and Amos received a cease and desist letter from the wife of Victor Willis (lead singer of Village People) regarding their comments on the song YMCA. This is their formal apology to Victor and Village People for completely misrepresenting the meaning behind the song. SOCIALS: Jim Jefferies Website: https://www.jimjefferies.com IG: https://www.instagram.com/jimjefferies FB: https://www.facebook.com/JimJefferies Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimjefferies Amos Gill IG: @abitofamosgill FB: https://www.facebook.com/AmosGillComedy/ Theme Song: "Rein It In Cowboy" by the Doohickeys

Hello everyone, welcome to At This Moment, a very special episode that is coming out on a Tuesday. How are you Amos, you're in Australia right now? I'm in Australia, it's the morning, I've had about eight pints from 6am onwards to watch the Super Bowl where the Philadelphia Eagles have absolutely smashed the Chiefs and it was good to spend it with a bunch of, you know, Super Bowl is a big thing here now where it's just a lot of Aussie blokes who have started the morning with ribs. Is there anything worse than an Australian bloke saying they need a new linebacker? I don't know what they're thinking.

Yeah. People have started to get the lines a little bit better, you know, but it's, it is fun to just hammer that at 6am, a good boozy breakfast, but we had to call it emergency podcast. Emergency podcast. Still buzzed. Okay. Let's, let's talk about this.

Two podcasts ago, we're only, we're only four podcasts in, I believe, we're four podcasts in, but on our second podcast, I believe, we made some comments about the Village People song, the YMCA. And here are the comments here. Let's be honest. What is the YMCA song about? It's about, it's about- Dude's getting fucked in a hostel? It's fucking in showers in a hostel, right?

When you're a young man who's been kicked out of your home, there's a place you can go. I said, young man, when you're short on your day and everyone all these right-wing people are dancing around to basically a song about bumming in the shower yeah there's a lot of conservative people who go all this gay propagandas everywhere and then they go and clap the village people and Trump dancing with them yeah obviously Donald Trump has made it his thing and I'm gonna tell you I've loved it the song it's reminded me how much fun the YMCA and the village people is. It's a great disco.

We love this song. When that song turns on, everyone gets on the dance floor. It doesn't matter what you are. It doesn't matter if you're gay, straight, Republican, Democrat, great song. But sadly, I received my girlfriend is as much of a Democrat supporter as you're going to have. And when she sees Trump doing the dance, even she's like, God, it's fun. Yeah. Isn't it a great time?

Isn't this wonderful? And unfortunately, it seems that we've upset some people within the group. On the 7th of February, through my management, I received a letter from a Miss Karen L Willis who is a lawyer. Would you like to read the letter for us please? Okay you sent me this at 4 a.m. At first I thought you were joking but here it is it says to Jim Jeffries CC of your management notice to cease and desist. Request for retraction. February 7th, 2025. Dear Mr. Jeffreys, you recently used an obscene derogatory and false description of the iconic hit YMCA.

You told your audience the song YMCA is about guys getting bonged. I said bummed. I said bummed. When will this nation understand my accent? Carry on. Getting bombed, AKA bummed at the Y. Well, Victor Willis, and that's when you realize that's the lead singer of the group who wrote the songs, the lawyer is Karen Willis. So I believe it's,

It's Victor Willis' wife. And Victor is the cop in the village people. He's, he's, I think he's the last one alive. The original. Who wrote 100% of the lyrics of the song has made it clear that those some may have misinterpreted the lyrics to mean illicit sex at the Y. I don't know if you thought it was illicit. It was just sex in the Y.

But that is not the actual meaning of his lyrics, nor is there anywhere in the lyrics that would even remotely suggest such even anyone suggesting otherwise will have to prove in a court of law that Willis, who wrote the lyrics and ought to know, was writing about gays having illicit sex with the Y, though he has made it clear that that was not what the lyrics are suggesting. Therefore you have perpetuated, you have. Therefore, you have perpetuated, you have perpetuated, sorry, therefore, therefore you have perpetuated a false

and defamatory meaning of the song, therein bringing harm to the very famous song. And the public was warned. I didn't I didn't get this warning. It's starting in 2025. Anyone who perpetuates a false and derogatory meeting of YMCA would be sued Accordingly you have ten days to retract on your show this one We're on your false and defamatory meeting of YMCA and provide me proof of such retraction Including but not limited to a link to your attraction or I shall immediately commence legal action against not only you

But your co-host my name not included You know if you get sued by the village people the least I could do is have my name on the bloody paper to be Honest, but your co-host likewise Perpetuated she loves perpetuated. That's her word of the day your false and defamatory meaning of YMCA sincerely carambolas JD So Jim, yes, we're wrong. Yes, we are wrong. And I think you and I have discussed off the air. We screwed up.

Yep. It isn't gay. It was our bigotry. We just assumed because of the sort of the outfits and all the Pride festivals and all the gay guys. We put two and two together and came up with five, didn't we? We didn't. We did. I'd heard the things around the all the gay guys. We put two and two together and came up with five. Didn't we? We didn't. We, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we because I think we could warn others. This is hard for the police, construction workers, Indians, hard all around. Okay, so the song goes, young man, there's no need to feel down. Young man, pick yourself off the ground. Young man, because you're in a new town, there's no need to be unhappy.

Young man, there's a place you can go. Okay, so he's helping out a person who's down there like. He's in a new town, he's a young man. He's in a new town. Yeah. Well, he's short on his dough short and how would he make money? Probably some pickup basketball games, like trying to hustle people. Right. There's many ways to have a good time. Now it's fun to stay at the YMCA. It's fun to stay at the YMCA. They have everything for young men to enjoy.

Yes. You can hang out with all the boys. Yep. So no girls there, but it's like your camaraderie. It's fun to say at the MCA, YMCA, it's fun to say at the YMCA. It says you can get yourself clean. You can have a bloody good meal. Fantastic meal. And here we go. This is where I think we fucked up. Right. With our smutty minds. Yes. Because it says, you can do whatever you feel. As long as it's not gay.

And what did you think that was? I thought it was bumming in the showers. You thought that? That's what I did. I, you know, I'm wrong. Look, I, I'm, I'm, I've made mistakes in the past and I've made mistakes in the future. That's just life. You know, you know, I'm a work in progress.

And you know, from time to time, I'm going to say stupid things. You know, that's what a comedian's minds do. Just shoot from the hip. You know, I heard those lyrics and I my mind sick. I am sick in the head. My mind went, oh, it's about bombing. Not that I have any problem. I don't have any problem with bombing.

I'm all I'm all for the homosexual people. I have a lot of homosexual friends. I'm a big fan of the gay community. I think you've watched my stand-up over the year. I'm a big supporter of them but it does seem to be as Victor Willis's wife said a derogatory and repulsive. What was the word? It was all in the gym. It was grotesque. I mean, you can grow obscene, obscene, obscene. We said something obscene.

Okay. Let's keep going through the song. Young man. Are you listening to me? Yes, I am. Young man. Do you, what do you want to be? I said, young man, you can, you can make your real dreams.

We've got to know one thing. No man does it all by himself. I said, young man, put your pride unrelated on the shelf. And just go there to the YMCA. I'm sure they can help you today. And then obviously

the chorus goes again, everything for young men to enjoy. Do whatever you feel. Not that. I bet Willis is bloody spewing when he wrote the song. And he said, you can do whatever you feel. Not that. No, I bet Willis is bloody spewing. Yeah. When he wrote the song and he said, you can do whatever you feel. He didn't go, but don't fuck each other. Yeah.

Don't fuck a guy's throat. And I went and the band members said, that's not we're not that's not working in the courts. Yeah. Yeah. He said, he goes. to sit that's not we're not that's not working in the course yeah yeah yeah yes like it doesn't fit with the beat yeah don't fuck him out right that's gross just it just didn't yeah there was never a lyric with don't put your penis in an asshole that's silly that's not where they're meant to go that wasn't said that wasn't said any any you know there's no time that they say ejaculate.

Don't do that. Young man, I was once in your shoes. I said, I was down out with the blues. I felt no man cared if I were alive. I felt the whole world was so jive. That's when someone came up to me and said, young man, take a walk up the street. It's a place called the YMCA.

They can start you back on your way. Now it's just, it's the young men. He says it's about basketball. And he said, hanging out with the boys, hanging out with the boys is well, that's, he said, that's black slang. You can hang out with all the boys. So we can't speak on that because we're not black or what is a nasty, I'm sorry. I know we're friends, but what is a nasty pervert?vert like you immediately think that's anal sex in a shower because what

do I say to my girlfriend say love I'm off to hang out with the boys she doesn't go oh he's probably bumming in a cheap hotel no no and I thought that because I'm sick I'm sick in the head I'm the problem in this whole situation and I was wrong I was terribly wrong. And you know what? And this is going to be, this is going to be carried around with me for a long time. Friends are here to hold each other to account. Yeah.

And so thank you. Let me, as your attorney, as your friend, guide your hand and don't you guide my hand and I've done it again. I've done it again. It's hard for you and don't make a double entendre. It's hard for you. OK, OK. That's growth of a kind. I want you to talk to Willis and I want you to talk to the fans of disco who are quite frankly repulsed that you've said that songs about.

And I'd like you to apologize so we don't get in any trouble. I would like to apologize to Victor and Karen Willis that I must be one of the first people in the world who have thought this but I thought that it was gay. It was wrong of me, it was deflamatory. It was obscene and it was a false description of the iconic hit. People shouldn't, they're not getting bombed at the why. I just feel bad, Amos. I just feel bad for the people I hurt. Well, that's okay.

And I'm glad we've set our pace. So there you go guys. If we can be here to help our audience grow. I know I've got a lot of sort of knuckle dragging idiots who are my fans. It's not gay guys. It's not gay. Okay. And you go to pride this year. Yeah. If there's a float and it's playing it, I want you to run up there and kick the fucking boom box off and say, turn that shit off. Get it off, get it off. That's not. Get it off. You're appropriating that from regular straight men that's our song. And also let's go through the characters of the the the village people, hard-working young men.

The Navy. I support the troops. Do you support the troops? You look like you support the troops. Listen I love the Navy. I always want to join the Navy, I support the troops. Do you support the troops? You look like you support the troops. I listen, I love the Navy. I always want to join the Navy because it was the most heterosexual of all the armed forces. I just being locked in a little submarine underneath the water for days on end and a little tube where all you've got is your man to help you out. But he was it's a tantric thing. You, you stay with the boys and you boys and you save up all your sexual power for

your wife when you get home after six months of not seeing her. You'd be ready, wouldn't you? You'd be ready. Construction workers, they construct buildings. They work with their bloody hands, nails, hammers, hardworking folk, hardworking folk. And we're sorry if we've, we've hurt the construction industry in any way, uh, to the Indians, to the Indians, I would actually say, um, this may be right up there with the most tragic thing that has happened to the Indian community of America, uh, it's hard to beat the trail of tears. Well, there's another tier on that trail. Another tier on that trail.

of kids. Well, there's another tier on that trail. Another tier on that trail. Um, next we'll go on the bikers. The bikers, um, he's a biker. Whatever. He has a mustache. He has a mustache. The biker, mate. He's a hells angel. Like you think you can be gay and be in a biker game? That is ridiculous.

Ridiculous. And then a cowboy, pew, pew, pew. John Wayne wasn't gay, was he? No, there you go. This is the gay agenda. Yeah. Coming in to undermine the fabric of good, honest, working class men who were trying to do a day's work

first try to make us gay by showing that gay men could be a part of any profession and It's fucking shits me mate. Yeah, no, it's wrong. It's wrong and you know who I'm angry at now The gays for appropriating it. I Said it before they appropriated, this good heterosexual music. You know, when I go down to the Y and I'm playing basketball with my mates, we don't think about having sex in the shower at any stage, at any stage. Well, not particularly after we see your athleticism, we're a little turned off. Exactly.

But you know, I bring girls, they stand on the sidelines. My wife comes along and feeds me sandwiches. No, there's no, there's no, there's, there's no gay sex after playing basketball. The whites, not the NBA. All right. We've cleared it up. Let's go through a little bit of the history of the village people. French composer.

What do you want to say? Yeah, the French composer Jax Morale, that was the guy that helped put the band together. Came to the United States of a 20th century slogan and while in New York he attended a costume ball at Les Moochies, a gay disco in Greenwich Village. Now the village people's name comes from Greenwich Village in Manhattan, right? Well, he was a foreigner here though. Which was a synonymous gay area. And then they were known as the village people.

So you can see how he got confused. I am obviously wrong because they're the most heterosexual band that has ever been. Um, but they, they were called the village people from, but they're macho men, right? Victor Willis, who had been in such Broadway musicals as The Wiz, he was the first person. They brought Victor in. Victor's the cop who we've been talking about. Their first LP sold through the roof. The moustache leather clad biker, Glenn Hughes, that was Jacques's diet of age. Glenn Hughes that was Jacques died of AIDS Glenn Hughes the biker died of lung cancer in

March of 2001 Hughes was buried in his leather biker outfit As an homage to heterosexuals and everything they get up to just I know you're willing to apologize because you're the one being yes Yes, yes, yes, I because I know you're a Trump supporter They just want to get some lefty shill like me and bring me down. I think what's happened here is Victor has been a part of this group and the gay movement has made them a lot of money, made them very famous. He obviously felt pushed into it in the disco era. The record company was like, surround yourself with the gays, it's good branding. The band was put together. But then some of his close friends through homosexuality died of HIV and that really affected him and so now he's going I don't endorse that gay lifestyle anymore.

In the sense that I, a man that used to proudly say I do cocaine, I don't say that anymore because I've had friends die from overdoses. So maybe that's what's happened. Victor is like I promoted homosexuality and my friends have died. Yeah, no Victor's not gay We just want to be very clear on that and the words that he writes He's not gay because we know that because his wife Karen Willis wrote it now. I will say this to Karen He never wrote a song called Karen

No, or I from what we've found a song that talked about women in any way. Well, if he did write a song called Karen, it would be about a woman complaining and checks out. Yes. Let's go through some of the other... Okay, so first of all, YMCA is not a gay anthem. It is not to be depicted as a gay anthem, even though the library of Congress on June 30th, 2020 wrote an article called Happy Pride, how the YMCA became a gay anthem.

That's from the things. That's why they stormed the Capitol on January 6th was because we wanted to get that defamatory statement out of the Capitol. Yeah. That's the Congress. But even I will say this now. I was like, I love the village people, but I don't want to know it's gay. So I stormed the Capitol and I ripped that up because that that is a deep state plot. Do you know the name of the album that the YMCA is on? It's called Cruising. Cruising, Cruising, It's called cruising. Cruising.

Cruising. Cruising. Cruising for? Ah, for women! You're driving down the street cruising for women in the West Village. Bloody, it's not gay, Amos. It's not gay. Well, the songs-

Also, to be fair, the Navy is easily- Okay, first of all, just quickly before you say that, so I apologize. I was wrong. Please don't take me to court. Karen, the YMCA has no gay implications whatsoever. I shouldn't have ever said it's gay in any way, but in the Navy and mucho macho men is as gay as fuck. So I don't know if there's a different court case for that, or we're just

dealing with the wire right now. We're just dealing with the why or we're doing all the village people music because I can't be told that those songs are heterosexual. Man, I think we can all agree the Navy is easily the most heterosexual of all the armed forces. We want you as a new recruit. It was just a recruitment tool. It was just a recruitment tool where they were trying to bring in young... so if you say in the Navy is gay, you don't support our troops. Well, can you see my outfit that I'm wearing today? You look like Gaddafi.

How did you get how did you get the car? Where did you buy this? I was on the way to do this podcast and I thought I'll dress up as gay as I can. So I got a naval outfit and a pride captain's hat. I went into a sex shop and I'm so latently deep down homophobic probably that I said to the lady behind the store I said I need to get a very gay navy outfit for comedy. And she was like no problem that doesn't matter honey. She was like it's fine we've got heaps of those honey like which one are you looking for?

You're looking for something that exposes you? Or are you something more like legitimately like a captain? I said, it's for a comedy sketch. I'm being sued by the village people. She was like, oh, I'm sure you are. I'm like, I am being sued by the village people. Have a look at this letter. Now, I just want to talk about the homosexuals

and what they've been through now I have Three or four of my closest friends gay and I reached out to all four of those people and I text them and I said hey, I'm being sued by the village people is the YMCA a gay anthem all of them replied back Of course, it's a gay anthem one of them replied back, it's about fucking in the showers. Another one said, not only is it a gay anthem, but it's about young male prostitution. Right? This is the gays are saying this. So if if if if our man Victor wants to go after them, these aren't my words. These are people who who text me.

Well, can I give you can I give you my legal opinion? Yeah. I for those who don't know, I am actually a graduate of a law school. Not a good one in Australia in Australia But if we're saying that we have defamed Yeah, this long why MCA by saying that it's straight. Yes, and they're saying that we've caused them sort of a financial loss There is a detriment by our words. I'd have to say, uh, I think you saying it's not gay is probably defaming the song more than us saying that it's straight because you've made a lot of money from it, but let's say it wasn't gay. You probably had a feeling of doing pretty well off this gay stuff.

Here's the deal. Victor, Karen, that big house that you're living with has been paid by pink dollars from top to bottom. The gays have supported you throughout your lives. They have fed your family. They have kept you in a very comfortable lifestyle. Now that it goes up the charts because of the Republicans actually liking the song and you're going to have the audacity to actually say it's not gay. Did you ever think in your wildest

dreams that you would say this sentence, I am being sued by the village people for implying that they're gay. There has never been a gayer group than the village people. Name me a gayer group than the village people. Name me a gayer group than the village people. And I'll include just George Michael as a solo act. There has never been a gayer group than the village people. I was with my mom last night and I showed this to her and she, I said, mom, do you remember when you took bit of a school disco and we learnt the YMCA dance?

And we've all done it. It's like a big hit for like school discos. And you're going, why MCA? In your wildest dreams, could you imagine that the lead singer of that band would take you to court for saying it's about being gay? But here's the thing. What is the problem with people interpreting this art as being gay? Right? If people can, you can have university courses where people interpret movies,

poems, lyrics, all this type of stuff. You can't take me to court for my interpretation of the YMCA. It's against my first amendment rights, right? I'm allowed to do this. People will be writing underneath this right now that we're shit stirrers and that we've done something wrong and we're completely wrong but I'm actually I've apologized already fuck it the songs about having sex in the showers the end I disagree now you can hold off you're not being sued she knows you don't have any money but but but on a on a legal note again what I love about this and I was talking to some friends from law school who I obviously pinged this around to everyone I graduated with and they were like, can I take this case on this could make my name.

You're right. It is it is art. And they're saying you've interpreted art wrong, but you're allowed to interpret art. However you interpret it. That's the point. That's what art is. It's the eye of the beholder. That's like going to a gallery and going, Hmm, you know what I see at that painting? I see an interpretation of, of hell of the inferno that waits for us. And then

the guy that painted it's behind you. He's like, it's a fucking lily pad. It's got nothing to do with hell. You idiot. It's a lake. It's a lake in my back of my house. You're simple. They represent us all trying to get on top of each other and the currents that lie below and the deception that is through life. Yeah. It happens in music all the time. Like, okay, Bruce Springsteen has born in the USA, which has become a patriotic

anthem for people was in Ronald Reagan's reelection ad, but it was really a protest song against Vietnam. Right. And Fortunate Son, Creedence Clearwater Revival, they play that as like a USA hype up song. But again, it was a sort of a critique. It was used during Reagan's, one of his run for president, he used Born in the USA. I click, if we're going to start doing this, I've never said a misogynistic joke in my life. They're all feminist jokes and anyone who says different I will sue and take to court because all it's I wrote them so I know what they're

meant to mean. That was never your intent? Never my intent. My intent was love and love not even laughter. I was just spreading love. It's all I ever wanted to spread. I don't want to like reveal too much about knowing you Jim because you've got a very intense audience But Jim's never done cocaine. Never done it never done it. It's something that I made up and anytime Anytime that I say that whether it comes out my biography that's coming out or anything like that I just want it to be known that i've never done it. It's just a stage piece and I don't like people interpreting my art that way Just that's just how it is

I'd also like to get out ahead of something knowing I can be sued for saying that YMCA is a gay anthem. I've said that Brokeback Mountain is a gay movie. It's not it's just a movie about two guys going camping forest. No forest. Well two guys were in the forest I understand. Now Brokeback Mountain is about two straight men making do with a bad situation. And I'm sick and tired of people saying it's a gay movie. It's not. And I was wrong. I was wrong. Let's just go through the...

Look, we've all agreed that YMCA... Well, I think it's a gay anthem, but I've been told it's not a gay anthem. And I have to take his word for it. If he says the words are just about playing basketball, you can get yourself clean, you can have a good meal, you can do whatever you feel, as long as it's not gay. And he sang it with men who were gay. Even members of the village people did refer to it

as a gay anthem before they died, but they can't speak now. Um, the gay community took it on board as a gay song. Victor Willis earned money from the game community. Uh, Karen Willis also enjoyed the pleasures of that money and, um, but it's, it's not right. So they don't want it associated with the gay. So if you're in a gay nightclub and you, you hear the go up to the DJ and go, no, no, not guy. Not guy.

Listen, man, I just took a popper and I'm looking to get rooted in the toilets. And I don't want to hear a song about people playing ping pong at a cheap motel. Yeah, yeah. It's just about boys playing sport. How did they think that was ever going to be a hit? Hey, what have you written today, Victor? I've written myself a good song about boys playing sport down at the YMCA. The YMCA, yes, the youth Christian something, whatever it's bloody called.

The young Christian society or some shit right but they also brought out other songs the village people who aren't gay in any way don't ever imply they will sue if you say the village people are gay in any way and also I'm obviously dressed as Freddie Mercury no proof there either no proof there no proof if you watch the movie, didn't he marry a woman or hang out with her or write some songs for her? It's more than Victor ever fucking did. Anyway, let's go on to the song Mucho Man. Okay, I'm gonna read you the lyrics to Mucho Man. Ah, body, wanna feel your body baby. Such a thrill

my body. So it goes on a lot about bodies right well he's actually recreated that now now that they've gone for for hetros the new song is titties big juicy titty now does everyone know that Victor Victor Willis also was married to Felicia Rossard who was m Mrs. Huxtable from the Cosby show. So she's met some dudes, hasn't she? Holy hell. Right. Just for a little while, but now she's married to Karen.

Okay. Every man wants to be a macho, macho man to have the kind of body always in demand for the ladies, for the ladies. Um, jogging in the morning, go man go, workouts in the health spa, muscles glow. You can best believe that he's a macho man, ready to get down with anyone he can. Except for men of course, except for any woman, woman, any, don't be, you, you, that's derogatory and defamatory. What you're saying.

So it says he will get down with anyone he can, but look, if you want to like read into things, reading, read into things, you can, you can read into anything, but it just says that, then it says, Hey, Hey, Hey, mucho, mucho man. I want to be a mucho man, mucho, mucho man. I want to be a mucho man. And then it goes back to body. Love to pop my body. Yeah.

Now it goes on to you can tell a macho man. He has a funky walk. Maybe try to hold something in his Western shirts and leather. Always looks so boss, funky with his body. He's a king. Call him Mr. Ego. Dig his chains, which doesn't even rhyme. You can best believe that he's a much a man.

He likes to be a leader. He never dresses grand. Do I need to go on? This look, it's it's just a song. Again. You go to the wider lift way to get a good body So it's I'm starting to think that maybe the YMCA Threatened him. I'm like hey ladies ladies We're just a gym ladies If you want to get yourself like a good-looking guy with a great-looking body and you think all the bad men are gone

Go and hang down at the Y You'll meet a nice man. You'll give a good meal. You can do whatever you feel. You can hang out with all the boys. Jim, we're not Americans. So we didn't go up around that era of like the seventies with the YMCA. But I see the YMCA now and it seems more like a place if you can do what you feel and that's shoot fentanyl. Here we go. I'll give you a verse.

I haven't seen many mucho mucho men around the YMCA for a while. There's been a drop off at the front of the wall. Every man wants to be a macho macho man to live a life of freedom. Machos make a stand to have their own lifestyle and ideals, possess the strength and confidence. Life's a steal. You can be, you can best believe that he's a macho man, he's a special person in anybody's land. Macho, macho, macho man.

Okay, here we go. Okay, after macho man, I've got the construction worker, David Hodo. Just to be clear, there would be no YMCA song without Jax Morale, who is the French guy who went down the West Village and put the band together. He came up with a hook, as did all the VP music, after Randy Jones took him to the YMCA and introduced him to several gay porn stars who worked out there. It's only slightly nauseating to hear Willis speak as though he were Steven Sonheim,

which that's a gay thing to say. That could have said, are we a pair? Me here at last on the ground? Anyway, so to hear that he was speaking as Steven song, the YMCA would have disappeared from the chance for good. Had it not been for the fact that the kids from the American band stand came up the arm movements, that silly little dance is why the song endured, not the brilliant songwriting.

dance is why the song endured not the brilliant songwriting. So the hook and everything was from meeting gay porn stars and then the kids did it and then Trump he does his thing like that which looks like he's wanking off two cocks he does a dancer it looks like he's wanking off two cocks on his face which by the way I could get sued for saying that so that's not that's just him pulling the ropes of change. Listen, you can say all you like that the YMCA dance was popular and it was. But I think Trump's is probably Trump's is that's iconic. It's because a lot of people say Donald Trump is a strong man.

And I always actually wrote an article about a much show. Man is what they call him a much show man. He's not a strong man. And I always actually wrote an article about a much show. Man is what they call him a much show man. He's not a strong man. Like he's not a Vladimir Putin type or a Victor Orban is to camp for that. He's a much, a much, a man. Yeah. He, he is that look, I'm not a Trump supporter. I would never vote for Trump.

I'm not happy that he's in government. I've made that quite clear, but he's a bit of fun at times. I won't take that away from him. You know, Biden, when we are able to dance like that, maybe Kamala would be able to do some body popping, but everyone's Vladimir Putin is a strong man, but he's not a much of a, you couldn't see Vladimir Putin sending people to the Gulag and then doing a gay anthem. Disco dance.

Yeah. Like I don't think, I don't think Trump's under any illusion that it's a gay anthem disco dance. Yeah, like I don't think. Partitioning the Ukraine. I don't think Trump's under any illusion that it's a gay anthem. I think he is like the rest of us in the world. We don't care. There's nothing wrong with a song being a gay anthem. You know who goes out to discos? The homosexuals.

They love discos. You know what happens with heterosexuals? We can't go for as long because of the children and whatnot, right? They love going out to them, right? So they get disco music. It is the music is designed for them. The village people without the homosexuals would have made this much fucking money. They would have this much of a fucking career.

And the audacity that they want to turn on the people who made them rich is I'm getting actually fucking moody about it now that you would send a legal letter saying that I'm gonna be fucking sued the song the song targeted right okay 1977 in Village People album was just a collection of four songs, a slim 22 minutes, recorded by studio musicians and an unknown singer. The songs targeted a niche record-buying audience, gay disco-goers and their patrons. The titles were self-explanatory, Fire Island, the East Coast Gay Summer Retreat, San Francisco, you've got me, well San Francisco is synonymous with homosexuals, the West Coast premier destination, village people, a look at the inhabitants of the New York village and the gay district

of the Greenwich Village, and in Hollywood everybody starts the promise of Acoustic accompaniment, I don't need to read that last bit. Anyway, it has been documented here on the When this is from the National Library of Congress that the songs were put together for homosexuals Next I get it. Well Victor Willis also tried to do a song back in the day which was called The Wheat Belts of Indiana. Another song called I'm Just a Jiggle-O, I Am What I Am, a Gay Declaration, Sodom and Gerora reached their, Macho Man was heard by a straight audience and more sports athletic for fucking... The village people. I'd like to offer my services, Jim, okay? Yes. All right. I'm getting flustered.

I'm sorry. You're getting a lot... Very flustered. I'd just like to offer my services to them. Okay? You don't want to be gay anymore. Whatever. I see it. He's gotten old.

People get old and conservative. You're a part of the Republican movement. So let me be your Juck Morale, your new creative director. So I've got some ideas for the village people moving forward. So we'll get we'll rename them. They're no longer the village people. It's still men in uniforms. You're called the first responders.

Oh, yes, the first responders. Very good. First responders. Here's some ideas for casting. We're going to go Kyle Rittenhouse. Yeah. Okay. Kyle Rittenhouse, Pete Hegseth, Rudy Giuliani. Yeah, Rudy Giuliani. And then Vivek Ramaswamy. Who's a construction worker? We'll have a bit of a Vick Ramaswamy's

Use a construction worker Along musk is a mechanical Yeah, okay, so yeah Colin Vivek Ramaswamy as the Indian and the construction worker is Larry the cable guy. We want you, we want you, we want you as a new recruit. There's a line that's from in the... F**king chicks all day, we wanna f**k. There's many chicks all day. I want to read just one of the lyrics that are double entend from in the song, the song in the Navy, in the Navy, where you can learn to sail the seas in the Navy, where you can put your mind at ease in the Navy. Come on now people make a stand in the Navy, in the Navy. And then another one goes, if you like adventure, don't wait to enter the recruitment office fast.

Don't you hesitate. There's no need to wait. We're signing up new semen fast. Now I don't want that might be because now you can have females in the Navy and they might be wanting semen. Well, don't let us describe the Navy. Here's Winston Churchill's summation of the Navy. The tradition of the Royal Navy is rum, sodomy and the lash.

Right. We will bum them on the beaches. We will bum them. We will never surrender. Unless we are busy bombing and they attack us with our pants down. It was very hard to kill those Germans. They were perfectly built. We fought mostly erect. Well, look, as I was saying before, the, the, the homo sex, if you're a

gay, like your whole life, you before, the, the, the, the homo sex, if you're a gaze, like your whole life, you must've thought you had an ally in the village people. Right? I don't believe that I'm homophobic. I do now believe though, that Victor and Karen Willis are. So if they take me to court for my interpretation, so like, if you, if you were told, if you did a piece of art, let's say you were in a movie I miss let's think in this you but you're acting you're in a movie and the movie goes on to become a

Guy like brokeback Mountain a big gay thing But you didn't think it was gay now you have the right to be like upset and moody about and go But that's not what it's about Do you believe you have the right to sue people who think that? I think suing is ridiculous. I get the idea of being like here's what I if I'm being like it's about. Do you believe you have the right to sue people who think that? I think suing is ridiculous. I get the idea of being like, here's what I, if I'm being like no, no conceit or anything, potentially you hear about this a lot. Like let's say Victor, he wanted to do his songs and then disco came around and you know, people put groups together and, and you use what is popular at the time.

The movie, the, the, the, the boy band Take That started out for gay nightclubs, right? It started out for gay nightclubs. And then they found out the girls liked them. And none of the lads in that band were gay. Right. He would have got in that scene and he's all the part of it. And he's a straight bloke. And he may well have been like, well, this is like a deal that I just have to do. I'm not crazy about it.

And I feel a little insecure because now everyone associates me with being gay and he's a black dude in the 70s. So I imagine there would have been a lot of people maybe in his family and friends who are like, you're part of the village people. This guy's fucking gay and he'd be like, I'm straight. You know what I mean? And maybe he's kind of that's worn him down. And then he's an old fella. He's an old bloke and he's maybe got more conservative, whatever the years have gone on. And he's an old fella, he's an old bloke and he's maybe got more conservative whatever the years have gone on and he's like I've never been gay I'm sick of being called gay, I've bloody never bummed anyone and this has just come out now and it's kind of funny and obviously you can't see people for

their interpretation but it's like if RuPaul in 30 years was like I hated the drag thing I just wanted to be on TV. Yeah we've all done things we don't like to be on TV, right? I did a kids show that suggests that I'm a nice person. You know what I mean? I'm not. You know, I regret that. I regret smiling.

I regret being kind. Right. Not in my character. Why don't you Sue? I'd like everyone to know I'm not silly gilly from the kids show. I'm a cunt. Now, now there was another thing when she said everyone was told in 2025 and I thought, well, as you said, I wasn't told, but there was a CNN news article.

The Willis has released a statement saying anybody who, so maybe like, do you think we're the only letter that's been sent out? I'd say this has been sent out to a bunch of people, which again though, like, here's the weird thing. I love the song. I will print the legal letter off, even though I'm not named, I will hang this in the office. This is so cool. I love the village people. I didn't know how much. Anyway, so there's four main songs, right? Macho Man, In the Navy, YMCA. What was the other big bloody one they had? Anyway, it doesn't matter. Go West, Go West, which that one's not gay either, even though it was only covered by the Pet Shop Boys. I

don't want there to be any misunderstanding on what Go West is about. I don't even know what go west means. It seems that everything Victor Willis writes is cryptic and a little bit like, he's purposely written these songs for people to interpret them as they wish. Right. And the rest of the band were gay. Um, I don't know if they were all gay, but many of them were gay. And I, but now that I've been sued by the village people,

I've started listening to the village people to hear the lyrics and me, their toe tappers, they are as disco goes, I'm a fan of the village people and when we go to court and we meet Victor, I'm going to be so excited to meet him. It's going to be such a big day for me. I have one problem with the village people and is there was not enough hits. I want more. I'd like Victor truly to come back. All right. So I told you, so it's just, this is a Victor's words, right?

Since I wrote the lyrics and I ought to know that the lyrics I wrote is what they really are about. Come January, 2025, my wife will start suing each and every news organization that falsely refers to the YMCA, either in their headlines or allude to in the base of the story that the YMCA is somehow a gay anthem because such a notion is based solely on the song's lyrics alluding to illicit activity for which it does not. However, I don't mind that the g guys think of the song as their anthem. I think you do mind. I think you do mind. So if you don't mind if the guys think it's their anthem, why do you mind that?

I think it's the anthem. Yeah. And we use organization. Nothing I say is vetted or. Speak for yourself Jack look look, you know, I I have an opinion about what's happening here now that I think about it Maybe the wife Who is probably perfectly lovely, you know lawyer walk, maybe she's just been at the country club or whatever and they're like so he's game I like because yeah, I like, so he's going to write like, I think there's a big, I think that's a big, it's like, he's not gay.

Is it driven from Karen or is it driven from Victor? And is, and is Victor like this? All right, honey, you go off and write all those letters. And then he's on his phone like this, Dave, she's out of the house. I think she's, I think this is allegedly, I don't know. Allegedly. Everything's alleged. Yeah.

It's like if you dated a porn star and then the partner got uncomfortable with her history and was like, I'm going to sue everyone that refers to you to your old porn name. Yes. Yes. Exactly. Exactly. Anyone who puts out footage of this.

A large star we don't want anymore. Yeah. It doesn't do that. You can't change your past. It is what it is. You have to embrace it and accept it and just, that's all you can do in life. And that's incredibly human. That's very beautiful and human.

And I'm happy for them to see us. They will lose. I think that's a bad precedent. I, I, I would like my day in court. I think I would, I'd like my day in court because, because, you know, you don't get too many of them. And I would like to hear them go the village people, Victor Willis from the village people versus Jim Jefferies on whether the song YMCA is a gay anthem or

not will be a landmark case that will change how we look at all entertainment moving forward. Do you have a lawyer? Have you briefed them? I forward it onto my lawyer. I text him and he laughed his ass off. Of course. The fund, you're doing mergers and acquisitions or, you know, sort of like traffic.

I did my due diligence to make sure that this was not a hoax. When you get things like this, you think I am being pranked here. But no, no, it turns out that it's not. This is all very real. Is your management worried? Well, I'm going to have a counter suit for all the stress. Well, if you do so, I spent $150 on this gay Navy outfit. In my counter, I think I want Amos to be reimbursed for his gay Navy outfit.

Which is made of a low grade polyester and it's about 115 degrees here in Perth. I own this because we had we used to do Halloween on the Jim Jeffries show and this was one of my outfits one year because the Queen movie was out and look I'm just so glad that I bought and didn't rent you know that I still had this. I knew it would come in handy at some stage most people go give that to a charity shop or something like that I still had this, I knew it would come in handy at some stage. Most people would go give that to a charity shop or something like that. I thought to myself, there'll be a day. There'll be a day. Can I actually bring something else up?

Yeah. Read their statement of claim against us. They say that we said people were getting bombed. Yeah, yeah, that's an accent thing. I want to, I want to sue for that. That is derogatory against. They misinterpreted what we said. Yes.

So they're attacking us for misinterpreting the lyrics and they misinterpreted what we were saying. So we could also call it even. We could just call it a rub. We could, we call it a, not a rub because they don't, he doesn't do that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, References in some articles that he had drug addiction problems back in the day. I can have empathy for somebody who has something like that. Victor may be a solid dude. He writes some fun lyrics.

If you watch him perform, he's a hell of a performer. He's got a great voice. I'm a Victor Willis fan, but I'm like, I'm like, I don't want to be, I don't want Victor Willis to hate me. When I, when I have my kids and they're doing the YMCA dance, I want to be like, I'm like, I don't want to be, I don't want Victor Willis to hate me. When I, when I have my kids and they're doing the YMCA dance, I want to be like, your dad offended. Look, look, look, the worst thing that can happen here is that the YMCA is taken out of all the gay clubs because the backlash of,

Oh yeah. Then the gays turn on us. They're like, who cares if he's homophobic? It's a banger. You had to stick your nose in it, you two straight blokes. Or it could become the new anthem of Shame Festival. Look, the Republicans are still going to dance to it. Actually, play it at the basketball, play it at the NBA because it's about basketball. Play it at the Olympics when the table tennis is on,

when there's a couple of guys from China standing 20 feet apart from each other, whacking the ball over the fence, play a bit of YMCA then, that'll get them revved up. Can I ask you, as someone who has no legal background, Yeah, I don't. When you got, was there a moment where you were like, oh, could I be in trouble here?

The first second I read it, I went, oh, what? And then I was like, then I went, hang on, I can't be in trouble for my opinion on a song. And then I did contact my lawyer, I went, just checking, can I be in trouble for my opinion on a song? And he said, he said no. And I've spoken to my reps and they have not told me.

There's been things that have happened in my career where I've been told to shut up and not talk or whatever, but no one has said anything for me to be quiet. You know what's funny? I'm here at the Perth Fringe Festival. I was at a gay club the other night called Connections because they do a stand-up show in there. You can't prove that it's a gay nightclub, can you? What made you think it was gay? They put the flag up, okay? They're very proud about it.

Oh, I thought they put the flag up, alright. I was talking to people there and I said, you won't believe this, I'm getting sued by the village people. And let me tell you, everyone's first reaction was you've said something extremely bigoted and homophobic. You won't believe this, mate. It's because I endorsed them as a fun game. And they were like, no, mate, be honest.

Did you go on an unhinged rant about how, you know, the village people have no place in the conservative movement or something? I said, no, man. No, no, no, no, no. We mentioned, look, we played the clip at the beginning. We mentioned that we thought it was funny that a lot of right stream, right wing people have gotten into the village people. We personally have no problem with the village people. I think we made it very clear throughout this podcast that we are actually fans of the Village People. I'm going out, I don't have to buy music anymore, but I'm putting Village People in the Spotify. I want to hear the playlist.

Now I'll tell you what they've done. All the band members died. Victor's still there. It must be a very sad place for him out the front. He's there in his police outfit wearing an ascot. Hodo's alive. What? Hodo's alive. Oh, we got two of them alive. Oh, we got David Hodo as well. David Hodo.

David Hodo was the man who said that it was also a gay anthem. But the village people had a new line up and for I believe seven years, was it Jack? Seven years, the village people with the opening act for Cher. Now I don't want to say that the Cher's fan base are anything but the most red blooded heterosexuals that you can imagine. But some others, some others may say that Cher's public. Some others may say that shares.

But let me stop you before you make an implication. I don't want to say anything wrong here. OK, we've said enough, but we look forward to the village people formed as the opening act for share on her farewell to right up until 2005. There you go. I am looking forward to this being settled. I look forward to the village people being played at more political events. I like that Trump's taking them on board. I think when the US Navy sends a fleet to Gaza to take it over,

I hope they play in the Navy. You know, because I just think ethnic cleansing has made all the more fun with a fun disco beat from the seventies. I do not endorse anything that Amos Gill says. How am I the one that's going to end up getting slithered? As soon as I heard ethnic cleansing, I just turned off. Well, all I was trying to say is I'm not a big fan of Donald Trump's plan for the mid-leaf. Oh, you're not a big fan. You're going you're getting more and more left wing.

Would you believe that the village people's right wingness is making you more left wing? Well, I don't know. there's something about wearing this pride captain's hat that's making me gay. All right, Jack, put up a picture of the original lineup of the village people. I just want to. Well, I thought, you know, I did bring that up because I didn't think that was insane. Of course, the whole point of

America first was meant to be ending American entanglements overseas and rebuilding a broken country. So, you know, expending American life to take over a place of native Palestinians. Didn't enjoy. Didn't enjoy. So the village people, the original members, we had the sailor, the police officer, the biker, the cowboy, the Indian, they didn't get along those two, and the construction worker.

And the guy said when he put them together, he put together the fantasies for homosexual men. Just like the same as if you go to any strip club, any Magic Mike type club, there'll be a guy dressed as a worker or a fireman or something. I used to do a joke about this years ago because when a woman goes to a strip club, when she sees a man getting naked, she still wants to know that he has a job. When men see strippers, we want to know that they've got a job and that job stripping.

We don't want to know about any other ambitions or dreams. How about this? If they want to put a new gay bitch, I already gave him the conservative village people. But if you were doing modern gay roles, you probably do Starbucks barista Barnes and Noble employee and anime, t yeah and very popular comedian you know Jim it is it is interesting the foundations of everything that we have taken for granted yes are eroding away now like I don't even know what's true about

anything anymore and it's made me think okay for the village people you have to be Lured you have to be fluid in this world. It's like if if Like when you're an artist like ourselves the public has to see themselves in you, right? So you have to present yourself in a certain way that is appealing to their sensibilities, right? Now, I lived in Britain for a long time and Sam Smith, as heterosexual as they come, super heterosexual, I've seen him.

You're inviting a lawsuit. No, no, he's a heterosexual. Well, he certainly looks like a plumber from Ohio. The amount of women he goes through, the amount of women that Sam Smith goes through is bloody outrageous. Bloody outrageous. But Elton John is their proof of sex with men. Elton John married a woman from Melbourne. I will have, you know, a good Australian girl.

He married it's in the movie. He married a girl, not all the relationships work out. Not all the relationships work out, but, um, ACDC super gay, always been gay. The band's all about homosexuality. But the guy is on a highway to hell. They were literally us that what do you think a highway to hell is it's it's yes shoot to thrill come on now for those about to rock they just changed the word was originally cock that back in black was about Angus putting his dick inside Victor Willis. Which is where these rumors started. Ladies and gentlemen, I think we have to end the podcast on that.

Look, to the Willis family, look, we mean no harm. We come in peace. We have not changed our opinion in the slightest. But if you want to take us to court you know where to find me I look forward to it let's go I love the village people goodnight Australia