IELTS Speaking for Success - 🤗 Happiness (S05E13) + Transcript
Episode Date: February 8, 2021How would you define happiness? Do you think people in your country are generally happy? What's the happiest moment in your life? Tune in and have a great day! - IELTS Speaking for Success PREMIUM: ...https://linktr.ee/sfspremium Transcript: https://successwithielts.com/s05e13 Find an IELTS Speaking Partner: https://links.successwithielts.com/ieltspartner Our social media: https://linktr.ee/successwithielts © 2021 Success with IELTS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Roy, you look very happy today.
I'm very happy.
I'm on Cloud 9.
Oh, shall we talk about happiness?
Yes, it's another coincidence.
Yeah, we are continuing coincidences on this podcast.
Yes, dear listener, in Speaking Part 1, they can ask you questions about happiness.
Rory, how would you define happiness?
Well, there are two parts to it in my view.
The first is an absence or relatively lower level of ill feeling
and the second is an abundance or a relatively higher level of positive emotions about a situation.
I think you need both to be truly happy.
What usually makes you happy?
Snuggles?
No, seriously.
When I stop working for a second and reflect on my life
and how far I've come and everything I've achieved
and all of the great things that are happening right now,
I almost can't describe the first.
feeling of exhilaration that I feel. And then when I get to enjoy the benefits, like the
ability to sleep in on a Saturday morning, not today when we're recording, but usually, and then I get
to help people all over the world. It's bliss. I love it. What would you do to make you happy?
Well, I'm already quite happy. So it becomes a case of how to maintain that, which isn't
very difficult. It's things like avoiding difficult situations, and I have enough life experience
to foresee potential problems.
It's almost like a gut feeling now.
You can kind of look at a situation
and see when things are going awry
or could potentially go awry.
And if we speak about maximizing happiness,
maybe it would be meeting and sustaining life goals,
like having a family and finding joy in seeing that develop.
This is in addition to seeing my circle of friends.
They make me pretty happy,
even though they're all very different people.
Do you think people in your country
are generally happy people?
I think that most people, most places most of the time are quite happy, or at least they're satisfied with their lives.
The two are often conflated, actually.
It can't be 100%, otherwise there's no impetus to move forward.
Despite everything, we're living in quite an extraordinary time with great potential for improvement and development.
I think I read somewhere that people in the West, which is where Scotland is, are less happy than they used to be for varying reasons.
And you can see elements and glimmers of this
when people speak about mental illness and dissatisfaction
with the way things are more often.
But it could be that we're just more aware of these things.
So I'd like to err on the side of cautious hope in this case.
I think we're quite happy people.
What kinds of things make people in your country happy?
Things like family and material comfort
and a sense of meaning that scaffolds all of that.
These are pretty universal things.
But if you want me to pick something specific
about Scotland, we have this reputation for being a bit feisty and working hard to get what we want.
And when we do it under these conditions, then we're happy.
That's my opinion. Others might beg to differ, of course.
Russian people are quite feisty, for example.
Are people in your country happier now than they were 30 years ago?
Well, people said that rates of happiness were going down,
but my understanding is that they're probably about the same, but for different reasons.
and the threats to happiness have probably changed as well.
We're more individualistic now,
so individual achievement is more likely to produce happiness.
We're also in the limelight a lot more on social media,
so this plays a role in determining how happy people are,
whereas before it didn't, because you weren't, it didn't exist.
It's sort of a paradox because, well, we all want to be seen as individuals.
We crave the approval of the crowds to keep going.
However, since more people are looking after their mental health,
health now. I think we are happier despite some counterindications. What makes you feel unhappy?
Well, any kind of physical or emotional pain. The worst for me is when I feel like I'm unable to
progress further. So I was a little down a couple of weeks ago because I hurt my ribs at the gym.
I thought I'd actually cracked my ribs, but it turns out I just had a spasm. So I had to lay off
it for a little while, which retarded my progress a bit. But I recovered because I reminded myself that it's not a race.
and I got back in the saddle easily enough.
What do you do when you are unhappy?
I try to analyse the situation and see what the problem is.
Obviously there's like this initial reaction of like, oh, I'm unhappy.
But then you can't just stay there.
You have to move forward.
And usually I can just avoid being upset by things
by reciting a few mantras in my head.
I suppose sometimes if the unhappiness is more persistent,
it's because I haven't eaten or slept in a while
and I'm hungry and tired as a result.
And when you understand that,
you can pinpoint and tackle the cause.
And of course, I'll vent to my friends.
Everybody does that.
It's good for decompression.
What's your happiest moment, Rory, in your life?
I mentioned it a while back, actually.
Someone special met me off the plane when I came back to Russia a few years ago.
And I wasn't expecting him to do that.
It wasn't you.
It was another attractive blonde.
That wasn't the reason why it was special.
It was because I really loved them.
It was nice.
This feeling of someone caring about you,
and they care enough about you to set this whole thing up completely under the radar.
It was quite a surprise.
And I often think about that moment.
It's sad because it's over now, but I'm glad I had that feeling at least once in my life.
Sweet.
Thank you very much, Roy, for your happy answers.
I hope they made you happy.
So, happiness, what else can you say?
We can say sheer bliss.
And we can talk about being on cloud nine.
It's such a cliche.
but no one says this.
No?
I've never said it without any irony.
Yeah, so we can kind of be ironic.
I'm on cloud nine, you know.
Yeah, so sheer bliss could be a synonym for happiness.
Shear bliss is better.
I'm, I don't know.
We don't really talk about positive emotions that much.
We have a million ways to describe negative emotions,
but not very many to describe positive ones.
This podcast is full of positive,
and positive emotions.
But not positive vocabulary.
We don't know the words.
No, we do know the words.
Tell us the words.
Yes, I'm going to tell you the words.
Okay, right.
I'm satisfied with my life.
That's not happiness.
That's satisfaction.
Right, okay, fine.
Contentment.
That is also not happiness.
Oh, please.
Oh, you're pain in the neck.
There's a good one.
Shiny.
That's a great one.
They say that a lot in Firefly.
Yeah, I'm shiny.
Yeah, that's cool.
I like that one.
It's slang, though, so maybe
not the best
I'm shiny
hmm
what are you on
do you want
an honest
answers
that question
no
no no
no
okay
but again
like you can kind of
paraphrase
like I was
delighted
there we go
I was
content
or I'm content
with my life
because again
contentment
is this feeling
of satisfaction
again
hyphenation
you can
hyphenate your words
you can say
I'm more than content
there you go
that's a
that's a euphemism
not a euphemism
That's paraphrasing happiness.
I'm more than content with my life.
I'm thrilled.
I'm thrilled, yes.
Overjoyed.
There we go.
Why didn't I use any of these words?
Yeah, we can say sheer happiness, sheer bliss, pure happiness, perfect happiness.
You can say, I'm filled with pure happiness.
I cry with pure happiness.
Shear is a good one though.
Shear.
Like sheer is another one for saying like completely.
So like sheer arrogance, sheer happiness.
It's like the maximum.
It's cool.
I like that one.
I'm going to use it more.
Advanced words, which collocates well with sheer bliss, sheer happiness.
When you are unhappy, you can say, I'm dissatisfied, I'm upset.
Rory, you said I was down when I cracked my ribs.
I was a bit down.
I thought I'd cracked them.
I didn't.
I just had a muscle spasm, but painful.
Oh, boy, you.
Rory, you said that snuggles made you happy.
That's a nice one.
We need to tell people what snuggles means because I have this, like, people ask me about this all the time.
Snuggles is like, it's like cuddles, but it's like when you cuddle into someone.
So like you can cuddle someone normally, but then when you like get close to them.
It's nice.
Yes, you can snuggle down into your warm bed.
You can't.
It's better to snuggle with someone, though.
Yes, yeah.
But like, or having somebody in your warm bed to warm it up.
Okay, right.
You can snuggle into Rory's arms, for example.
Rory can snuggle into somebody's arms.
Okay, and you talked about this feeling of exhilaration.
Yeah.
I can't remember when I said it, though.
You said that I can't describe this feeling of exhilaration.
Yeah, when I talked about this with my friend John yesterday.
We were talking about life.
And we both used to be, we used to work in the most horrendous place.
and we always used to be like not miserable, but it wasn't great fun.
The only thing that was fun about it was I had friends there that I really liked.
And I was just like thinking about it and I was looking at life now compared to then.
And it was like looking down the side of a mountain after you've climbed it.
It feels great.
So this feeling of exhilaration, it's like being thrilled but like more stronger than thrilled.
Yeah, you've climbed the Everest and you're standing right there on top,
feeling this feeling of exhilaration.
I do. I feel great about my life.
Cool. Do you not feel great about your life?
I do. I've done things...
He's sitting next to me. Of course he feels great.
We can maximize our happiness.
We can also maintain our happiness.
But they're different things.
Because maintaining is just staying at the level.
Maximizing is bringing it up to the maximum.
A good collocation is a gut feeling.
Yes.
Feeling in your guts.
It is.
Like, you know, whenever you feel like something bad is going to happen because you think you've been there before, or you just are uneasy about the situation?
You know, like, I don't know.
Yeah, yesterday I went to a bar, and then I went out from a bar, and then I had this gut feeling that, hmm, something is missing.
So I don't have something.
Well, it turned out I'd left my phone in the bar.
Yeah. When else can you have a gut feeling?
Like...
When you meet a person and you're thinking, oh.
No.
Whenever you meet someone in your...
Yeah, but you've never met them before, but you look at them and you're talking to them, you're like, I'm really uncomfortable.
Yeah.
Like that kind of feeling.
Kind of intuition, right?
Yeah.
I've been on a couple of dates like that.
They've been perfectly nice, and then you meet them face to face, and you're like, oh, I'm not sure about you.
So this is a gut feeling.
And almost always your gut feeling is right.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, we just never listen to it.
Yeah.
Often.
A good one, band nine vocabulary, is impetus.
Impetus.
Impetus, wow, so advanced, oh.
It is.
It's so advanced.
I've completely forgot what it means.
It's like motivation.
Is it?
Yeah, so there is no impetus to move forward.
There is no motivation.
It's the force or energy with which a body moves.
Let the force be with you.
It's not motivation.
Motivation is like an active thing.
Impetis is not.
It's not something that has conscious thought behind it.
Yeah, but can you say like it's a driving force?
It is.
But motivation is a different, like, what are best to describe it.
Let's get.
Impetus and driving force is the overall umbrella term.
Motivation is part of impetus.
Motivation is conscious, but some parts of impetus are not conscious.
You just do things just because.
Ha!
Wow.
Now I do know what it means.
Wow.
Mr. Native speaker.
So, you can say, like, people are satisfied with the lives.
It can be 100%.
otherwise there is no impetus to move forward.
Oh my God.
Yeah, when we talk about us being happy,
we can say that family, material comfort.
Material comfort that means money, financial stability.
It can be, but it could also be just having the things that you need to have a comfortable life,
like having a laptop, having a nice duvet.
30 pairs of shoes, okay.
250 pairs of shoes.
A sense of meaning.
a meaningful life
which is arguably more important
than having material cover
what was it was it Friedrich Nietzsche
that said he who has a why
can withstand anyhow
which is just like saying
if you have a reason to live then you can go through anything
how we got through our work at BKC International House
Wow
so Nietzsche is on this podcast
Scottish people are notorious for being
feisty
Feisty? What they have fists?
A fist is a fist, you know? He's checking
what's up. You guys, he's checking the words up.
I'm not checking WhatsApp. He's Googling it right now.
I'm Googling it, yeah. Because they use this word a lot, but I've completely forgotten what it means again.
Well, a fist is like when...
Feisty.
Feisty. Fisty is...
No, wow.
Wow, wow, wow, wow, okay.
Feisty.
Does it mean like a fist? You have a fist and a feisty.
No, no, feisty is like lively and deterrenty.
And usually, at least in Scotland, the collocation is like a feisty woman.
You talk about women being feisty.
You do.
And actually, there's a group of women fighting for their pension rights and they're called the feisty women.
Because there were changes to the law in Scotland about pensions that were grossly unfair.
So the feisty women got together and they were fighting to get their pensions.
So it's the name of a group of women in Scotland.
My mother is one of them.
and it's also an adjective to describe a person.
Okay.
We can talk about the rates of happiness.
So the rates of happiness in my country have declined, for example.
I have no idea if they've declined or not.
But the rates can decline, the rates can increase.
Now we are in the limelight a lot.
Like, it's the same as in the spotlight, right?
Yeah, although in acting.
Like this is from acting.
Lymlights and spotlights are different things.
A limelight is a particular kind of.
light, whereas a spotlight is just a thing that shines light on a particular spot. Limelight
is the colour, spotlight is what the light is. And I think you use the colour of the limelight
to bring out certain features or highlight certain features on a person's face. But the expression
in the limelight is to be on stage in front of people getting attention. In the centre
of attention. Just because of this all social media, we are in the limelight and we crave the approval
of the crowd to keep going.
So you can say, like, what makes me happy is...
Attention.
Attention, yes, on social media.
That's not healthy.
500 likes.
You should have a meaningful life.
No, getting attention from people is not a great way to live your life.
Like, because the attention fades.
Well, oh, okay, yeah.
Craving, though.
Craving.
It's a good word.
You can crave cigarettes if you smoke.
Grave alcohol and drugs.
If you're an alcoholic or a drug addict or a Scottish person.
Crave, I already speak of...
Is a drug addict?
Craving is when you really want something.
People have cravings when they're pregnant.
Mm.
Pickles.
Some people eat coal when they're pregnant.
Women.
Some women eat coal when they're pregnant.
Coal?
Yeah.
Black.
This was a thing.
Call?
Yeah.
Oh.
Anyway, yeah, you can crave some food.
I'm craving McDonald's.
Yum, yum.
Yum.
Not when you're pregnant.
Oh, I don't know.
Maybe.
Rory, when you are unhappy,
you prefer reciting a few mantras, right?
Yes.
So a mantra is like a short phrase or expression
that you say in your head over and over again.
Is that a mantra?
I'm the best in the world.
There you go, that's a mantra.
I'm the best man.
I'm the most gorgeous man in the world.
Okay, that's not a healthy mantra.
A mantra when you're feeling down would be something like what?
I am happy.
This two shall pass?
After Nietzsche?
No, that's not Nietzsche.
That's in the King James Bible, I think.
And it's like just to say that everything moves on.
Pain is temporary.
It's always pleasure.
And then when Rory vends to his friends, he feels happier.
Well, I feel happier.
They probably don't.
To vent to your friends.
And that's actually a very common verb to use.
So what does it mean if you vent to your friends?
You complain.
You winch.
Me, me, me, me, me.
I never do this very often.
Sometimes.
Unless I have a bad day.
To decompress.
Yes, it's good for decompress.
I vented to you the other day after I met that idiot.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, sometimes Rory vented to us on our telegram chat.
He goes to me, me, me, he did that and she did that.
And we say, oh, poor you.
It's okay, darling.
You're strong.
You're smart and beautiful.
Okay, on such a high note, everybody, dear ladies, remember that happiness is the best makeup.
No, it's not.
It's the best medicine.
And it's laughter.
Fine. And also be happy it drives people crazy. Thank you so much for listening. Bye.
See you next week. Rory, how would you define happiness?
Well, there are two parts to it in my view. The first is an absence or relatively lower level of ill-feeling and the second is an abundance or a relatively higher level of positive emotions about a situation. I think you need both to be truly happy.
What usually makes you happy?
Snuggles?
No, seriously.
When I stop working for a second and reflect on my life
and how far I've come and everything I've achieved
and all of the great things that are happening right now,
I almost can't describe the feeling of exhilaration that I feel.
And then when I get to enjoy the benefits,
like the ability to sleep in on a Saturday morning,
not today when we're recording, but usually.
And then I get to help people all over the world.
It's bliss.
I love it.
What would you do to make you happy?
Well, I'm already quite happy.
So it becomes a case of how to maintain that, which isn't very difficult.
It's things like avoiding difficult situations, and I have enough life experience to foresee potential problems.
It's almost like a gut feeling now.
You can kind of look at a situation and see when things are going awry, or could potentially go awry.
And if we speak about maximizing happiness, maybe it would be meeting and sustaining life.
life goals, like having a family and finding joy in seeing that develop. This is in addition
to seeing my circle of friends. They make me pretty happy, even though they're all very different
people. Do you think people in your country are generally happy people? I think that most people,
most places most of the time are quite happy, or at least they're satisfied with their lives.
The two are often conflated, actually. It can't be 100%, otherwise there's no impetus to move forward.
despite everything
we're living in quite an extraordinary
time with great potential for
improvement and development
I think I read somewhere that people in the West
which is where Scotland is
are less happy than they used to be
for varying reasons
and you can see elements and glimmers of this
when people speak about mental illness
and dissatisfaction with the way things are
more often but it could be
that we're just more aware of these things
so I'd like to err on the side
of cautious hope in this case
I think we're quite happy people
What kinds of things make people in your country happy?
Things like family and material comfort and a sense of meaning that scaffolds all of that.
These are pretty universal things.
But if you want me to pick something specific about Scotland,
we have this reputation for being a bit feisty and working hard to get what we want.
And when we do it under these conditions, then we're happy.
That's my opinion.
Others might beg to differ, of course.
Russian people are quite feisty, for example.
Are people in your country happier now than they were 30 years ago?
Well, people said that rates of happiness were going down,
but my understanding is that they're probably about the same,
but for different reasons.
And the threats to happiness have probably changed as well.
We're more individualistic now,
so individual achievement is more likely to produce happiness.
We're also in the limelight a lot more on social media,
so this plays a role in determining how happy people are.
Whereas before, it didn't, because you weren't.
It didn't exist.
It's sort of a paradox because, well, we all want to be seen as individuals.
We crave the approval of the crowds to keep going.
However, since more people are looking after their mental health now,
I think we are happier despite some counterindications.
What makes you feel unhappy?
Well, any kind of physical or emotional pain.
The worst for me is where I feel like I'm unable to progress further.
So I was a little down a couple of weeks ago because I hurt my ribs at the gym.
I thought I'd actually cracked my ribs, but it turns out I just had a spasm.
So I had to lay off it for a little while, which retarded my progress a bit.
But I recovered because I reminded myself that it's not a race, and I got back in the saddle easily enough.
What do you do when you are unhappy?
I try to analyse the situation and see what the problem is.
Obviously there's like this initial reaction of like, oh, I'm unhappy.
But then you can't just stay there. You have to move forward.
and usually I can just avoid being upset by things by reciting a few mantras in my head
I suppose sometimes if the unhappiness is more persistent
it's because I haven't eaten or slept in a while and I'm hungry and tired as a result
and when you understand that you can pinpoint and tackle the cause
and of course I'll vent to my friends everybody does that it's good for decompression
what's your happiest moment Rory in your life
I mentioned it a while back actually
someone special met me off the plane
when I came back to Russia a few years ago
and I wasn't expecting him to do that
it wasn't you
it was another attractive blonde
that wasn't the reason why it was special
it was because I really loved them
it was nice
this feeling of someone caring about you
and they care enough about you
to set this whole thing up
completely under the radar
it was quite a surprise
and I often think about that moment
it's sad because it's over now
but I'm glad I had that feeling
at least once in my life
Thanks.
