IELTS Speaking for Success - 📜 History (S08E18) + Transcript

Episode Date: January 9, 2023

What did you study in history lessons when you were at school? What did you study in history lessons when you were at school? What did you study in history lessons when you were at school? What did yo...u study in history lessons when you were at school? What did you study in history lessons when you were at school? What did you study in history lessons when you were at school? Tune in and have a great day! - Get exclusive episodes on IELTS Speaking parts 1, 2, and 3: https://linktr.ee/sfspremium Our course on Phrasal Verbs: https://successwithielts.com/podcourses Transcript: https://successwithielts.com/s08e18 Our IELTS Writing podcast: https://linktr.ee/wfspremium Find an IELTS Speaking Partner: https://links.successwithielts.com/ieltspartner Our social media: https://linktr.ee/successwithielts © 2023 Success with IELTS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Hello, lovely. I'm Maria. And my name is Rory, and we're the host of the IEL Speaking for Success Podcast. The podcast that aims to help you improve your speaking skills, as well as your listening skills along the way. We've started this podcast to give you gorgeous grammar and fabulous vocabulary for your high I.I.L. School. Bad night's school. History. Hmm. Are we excited about history? I am excited about history.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Part of my degree is in history, and I read history books all the time. So, yes, I am excited to talk about history. history. Oh, good. At least somebody's excited. Are you excited, dear listener, to talk about history? Do you enjoy? Are you not excited about history? No. Food, shoes, hair, shopping, cooking, more food, fast food, slow food. There's a great video on Instagram that was like about this song. It's this woman making fun of all of these songs and she's like, fashion, art, pure white sofas, fashion, art. Did I mention fashion? That's just basically what it sounded like there. Food. Food. Food. Did I mention food? Food. Let's talk about history. What did you study in history lessons when you were at school?
Starting point is 00:01:30 I can't remember all of the periods covered, but we definitely did the Roman Empire. and the rise of imperial Germany. Oh, yeah, bizarrely enough, the development of Scottish agriculture. That was not very interesting. Oh, and we did the 19th century, or like it was Victorian policy developments, which sounds boring, but it was actually really cool. It was all about the different social movements and sort of laws that were made at the time to expand the franchise.
Starting point is 00:01:58 That was cool. Did you enjoy studying history school? Well, I absolutely loved it. Apart from the agriculture stuff, that was like really obscure and totally random in, like, it was a really weird thing to study in a Scottish school. I think the one I like the most was studying German nationalism. That was particularly interesting because it read like some sort of historical epic. And then there were all these revolutions and battles that were involved in it.
Starting point is 00:02:27 And also there were things that were connected to the suffragettes and the extension of the franchise. when we looked at 19th century Britain, and that was quite interesting as well. How often do you watch TV programs about history now? Well, I don't as much as I used to, but I still listen to things on YouTube from time to time. The History Channel used to have all these documentaries about Germany in the 1930s and 1940s, and I quite like those. So it's interesting and good for me that other people have picked up this banner and put their own spin on it and added these videos to YouTube so that I can listen.
Starting point is 00:03:03 to them. What period in history would you like to learn more about? I'd have to think about that for a moment. Oh, I quite liked reading about the American Civil War, but I don't know much about the anti-bellum and post-bellum period, so that would be interesting to read up on. Do you think you will learn more about history in the future? Well, I hope so, because I've just had that realization that I need to read more about the American past, so I definitely know what my start point will be. Where do you go to learn about history where you live? Well, there's the local library across the road from where I live, and there are various cultural and heritage centers with everything that's attached to them. And there's also lots of older people wandering around
Starting point is 00:03:49 who might like to share their time and knowledge if they want to. So yeah, this place is rich in, I guess, lacunas of historical knowledge. Dear listener, we've got our super premium episodes, Speaking Part 2 and Speaking Part 3. This week on our premium, we are discussing a fashionable person in Speaking Part 2, and in speaking part 3, we are talking about fashion in general. These are recent I old speaking topics. Yeah, I know. Describe a fashionable person, can you imagine?
Starting point is 00:04:30 So the link is in the description. Do check it out. Okay? Promise. Pinky swear. Pinky swear. So you talked about the periods you covered at school. So there's like historical periods of time, right?
Starting point is 00:04:47 And the question could be like, what's your favorite period? Yeah, meaning like the time in the past. Maybe about the Roman Empire, about Rory mentioned the 19th century. So Victorian age. Yeah. And you said like bizarrely. enough, we talked about Scottish agriculture. So what's this strange word, bizarre, bizarrely?
Starting point is 00:05:15 Bizarar just means strange. And then bizarrely enough is like emphasizing the strangeness because, of course, you have like wars and social movements. And then it's like agriculture. It's a really like niche thing to study when you're in high school. I don't know why we did that. And I, like, I would love to know what the. idea behind that was. Yeah, that's bizarre, meaning that's strange. And like, an adverb is
Starting point is 00:05:45 bizarrely enough, right? So bizarre, bizarrely, like quick, quickly. Right, so bizarrely. Matthew. I'm a logic to history. So guess what? What? I have two books here. Incyclopedia. They are here. History, historical is cyclopedia. For kids. Yeah, for kids. Oh, look at your Russian. Wow. Look at me. I can read.
Starting point is 00:06:13 And Tommy, do we call it a historical encyclopedia or a historic? Historical encyclopedia, because historic is, it's used to describe major events, for example, like a historic victory or a historic event. Those things, it's like something will last and be recorded as a significant thing in history. So we have to be careful with that kind of thing. Yeah, when we talk about places, so do we call them historic places or historical? I would call them historical places, yeah, unless maybe it's a very significant place, in which case you could say like this is the site of the historic battle between two sides. You can say that I absolutely loved history at school or I hated it.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Say you love history at school. It's good. No, but maybe our listener didn't. So, like, I couldn't stand history. Like, I couldn't stand. Like, no, no. Right? Or remember this, like, L word, not love, no. Loath.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I loathed. And, you know, like, I was asked a question, like, loath is a little bit, like, it's a sophisticated words. It's a formal word. So can I still use it in AIL speaking, which is informal? Yes. Hmm. So it's okay.
Starting point is 00:07:32 So I loathed history. I hated it. I disliked it. And you can say, for example, I absolutely loved it apart from the topics about agriculture. Or I absolutely loved it apart from the teacher. So blame everything on the teacher. Why not? Sorry, teachers.
Starting point is 00:07:50 And then, like, some topics were particularly interesting or engaging. So the periods of, I don't know, Egyptian history was particularly interesting. And you can say that it read like a historical. epic. So what's a historical epic? Well, like an epic is a really long, well, the way I describe it is like a really, really long story. And so with it, it's got like lots of ups and downs and twists and turns. And that's how I looked at the rise of imperial Germany. It was like this very small Prussian state and then slowly expanding and all of this political maneuvering. And at the end, they have a massive empire. And then they lose it all in a big world war.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Why not? You can talk about revolutions and battles. So battles when there's an army, there's another army, and they fight. It's a battle. Like the battle of Waterloo. Waterloo. Waterloo. Waterloo.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Ah, yeah, it's Lou. Like Lou. Lou paper. Waterloo. And what's this word like suffrage? Suffrage? Oh, suffrage. That's like the ability.
Starting point is 00:09:06 to vote. So the suffrage movement was about gaining the right to vote and the extension of the franchise is the legal measures that were taken to give people the right to vote. TV programs about history or you can call them TV shows or just shows. Yeah, you can talk about shows on YouTube. So sometimes I watch shows on YouTube and it's a good one to use Iyusta. I used to watch different programs, but yeah, now maybe some documentaries on. on YouTube, so on YouTube on the internet. You can say that I used to watch endless documentaries about and then something. That's true, though.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Like, on the History Channel, they would always have documentaries about the 1930s and 40s in Germany, always, every day. I don't know how they managed to constantly churn out the same thing again and again, and people watched it. Rory, tell us what did you mean by saying, like, pick it up and pick up of that. banner and put the spin on it. Oh, right. So, well, what happened was the history channel, I mean, it's still around, probably, but I think not nearly as many people are watching it as they used to. So that kind of fell by the wayside, and other people picked up the banner of producing these documentaries, but they did it on YouTube, and now people are watching that instead.
Starting point is 00:10:27 So you pick up the banner, you take on the responsibility, and you put your own spin on it, you're talking about it in your own way. Put your own spin on it. Okay, so if somebody, if one of our listeners, like, decides to make their own podcast, so they watch our episodes, they take kind of like our content, but they do it in their own way. So they pick up that banner and put their own spin on it. Yeah, they already do that. When people put their example answers in the comments, like, and people comment on that, that's taking a lot. that's taking our answers and putting your own spin on it. Could you give us a sentence?
Starting point is 00:11:10 One more sentence with some context. How do we use this? It's strange. Bizarre. Well, we take IELS questions and we put our own spin on them. Dear listener, you should know what period of history interests you for the purposes of, you know, the IEL's exam. You should know what's interesting. And Rory talked, well, surely he said something like,
Starting point is 00:11:35 anti-bebevah post-bevallahsavabababahs. Anti-bellum and post-bellum. That just means before the war and after the war, but that's specifically for talking about the American Civil War. But interestingly, at the same time that Abraham Lincoln was freeing the slaves in America, there was a czar in Russia. I think it was Tsar Nicholas I first, or Alexander II.
Starting point is 00:11:58 I can't remember. But they were freeing the serfs and introducing land reforms. So these two sort of conflicts about human rights and freedom and the ability to move around and control your own life and destiny were happening at the same time. And I think that's really cool. There's lots of parallels between Russia and America this way. It's interesting that Rory wants to learn more about the American culture, not Scottish culture. He's had enough about Scottish agriculture in school.
Starting point is 00:12:28 I don't think, like, maybe it's just me. and if you disagree, then feel free. But I really don't think teaching children about agriculture is a great way to interest them in history. I think that is just... That's strange. Yeah. No, you know, it depends on how you teach them about agriculture.
Starting point is 00:12:48 No, I feel like that it would not matter. How else are you going to teach them? Grow your own potatoes? Yeah, you know, go out there, get your hands dirty and just do stuff, you know? Interestingly, though, potatoes come from South America. Yeah. Mm-hmm. But not many people know that. People think they come from Ireland, but they don't. No, South America. When I was in South America, I saw different shapes of potatoes, different colors of potatoes. It's crazy. They have purple potatoes, yellow, red potatoes.
Starting point is 00:13:20 They kind of this, the square potatoes. Okay, sweet potatoes, not sweet potatoes. It's amazing. And also, there is a huge crisis at the beginning of the 20th century. because you could only get a special kind of fertilizer for soil from South America and isolated places in the world. And they were running out of it. So people were worried that tens of millions of people were going to starve to death once they ran out of this fertilizer. Until, I think it was a German scientist called Fritz Faber. I think that's his name. Fritz Haber came up with the Faber or the Haber process.
Starting point is 00:14:00 And that was used to create ammonia. And after that, they could make fertilizer anywhere in the world. And it stopped millions of people from starving today. How cool is that? Dear listener, are you okay? Are you okay with us? Yeah, it's this IOT podcast, you know, we give you a gorgeous ground. Are you okay?
Starting point is 00:14:23 We learned about this in science, though, as well. So it's not just a history thing. It was all about how you can create ammonia to fertilize crops. It's awesome. Right. So you can say, like, that would be really interesting to read up on. So to read up on is a phrase of a verb. And it's not just like to read up, but to read up on.
Starting point is 00:14:43 So on something, like about something, yeah? If you read up on something, it's like you're researching further into something because you don't know much about it. I'd like to read up on the Russian history. Or I'd like to read up on Scottish agriculture. Why not? Nobody wants to read up on Scottish agriculture. Like, that's a surefire way to traumatize people.
Starting point is 00:15:05 So about the future, you can say, I'd like to read more about this. Or I don't think I'm going to read anything about history in the future. When you do know what you want to read about, you can say my start point. Or starting point. Oh, the starting point. Yeah, my starting point would be like the Russian history, I don't know, the 13th century. of the 20th century, so the 20th century. Where do we go to learn about history?
Starting point is 00:15:35 You go to the local library, so Rory goes to the local library. I do. I need to go there again to return a book. Like a dinosaur. No, I have to. We're doing a project, or we're going to do a project in school next term. And it's all about local authors. So where else am I going to find this information out, if not the local library? different museums are dotted around the place
Starting point is 00:16:01 so a dot is like we write a sentence and then we put a dot. So here museums are dotted around the place. So they're kind of like scattered around the place. They are around the place? Yes, just in different parts of the local authority. We're very lucky actually. We've got a whole load of museums in the,
Starting point is 00:16:22 I don't know what you would call it, the regional capital. It's not really a capital. So in the middle of nowhere, in Scotland? It's the regional capital of the middle of nowhere, yes. But then there's also visitors. Like the distilleries have visitor centers, and you can go there and learn about the history of everything that's involved.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Whiskey. Distilleries. It's part of, I think they call it the whiskey trail, or at least whiskey country, and that's why, because all the distilleries are here. Nice. We also have cultural. heritage sites. So if a place has some historical value, so there are different museums and
Starting point is 00:17:04 cultural heritage sites or places. And also Rory mentioned that lots of elderly people or older people wander around, so they can share some things about history with you. So one day around, they just go around the place, so they wander around. So they wander around. So you can catch them and ask them things. Okay, can we finish this episode now? Why do you not like this episode? I like talking about history. Oh, I'm going to now read some history
Starting point is 00:17:40 about my own country, you know, for children. Well, I had fun. Bye! Bye, everybody. What did you study in history lessons when you were at school? I can't remember all of the periods covered, but we definitely did the Roman Empire and the rise of imperial Germany. Oh, yeah, bizarrely enough, the development of Scottish agriculture.
Starting point is 00:18:09 That was not very interesting. Oh, and we did the 19th century, or like it was Victorian policy developments, which sounds boring, but it was actually really cool. It was all about the different social movements and sort of laws that were made at the time to expand the franchise. That was cool. Did you enjoy studying history at school? Well, I absolutely loved it.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Apart from the agriculture stuff, that was like really obscure and totally random in, like, it was a really weird thing to study in a Scottish school. I think the one I like the most was studying German nationalism. That was particularly interesting because it read like some sort of historical epic. And then there were all these revolutions and battles that were involved in it. And also there were things that were connected to the suffragettes. and the extension of the franchise, when we looked at 19th century Britain, and that was quite interesting as well. How often do you watch TV programs about history now?
Starting point is 00:19:11 Well, I don't as much as I used to, but I still listen to things on YouTube from time to time. The History Channel used to have all these documentaries about Germany in the 1930s and 1940s, and I quite like those. So it's interesting and good for me that other people have picked up this banner and put their own spin on it and added these videos to YouTube so that I can listen to them.
Starting point is 00:19:32 What period in history would you like to learn more about? I'd have to think about that for a moment. Oh, I quite liked reading about the American Civil War, but I don't know much about the antebellum and post-bellum period, so that would be interesting to read up on. Do you think you will learn more about history in the future? Well, I hope so, because I've just had that realization that I need to read more about the American past,
Starting point is 00:19:58 So I definitely know what my start point will be. Where do you go to learn about history where you live? Well, there's the local library across the road from where I live, and there are various cultural and heritage centers with everything that's attached to them. And there's also lots of older people wandering around who might like to share their time and knowledge if they want to. So, yeah, this place is rich in, I guess, lacunas of historical knowledge. much.

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