If I Were You - 10: Grandma

Episode Date: July 8, 2013

In this episode we discuss retroactively cheating on your wife, secretly moving out on your grandmother, and why apologies are actually the best way to start a relationship.See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.

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And remember, you can listen to this show by signing up on iTunes or you can go to ifiroyoushow.com or seizethecheese.com. There we go. Seize the cheese. Why don't we seize the cheese and start the show. All right. Seize in this cheese. This first email is from Peg.

That's right. Peg. Peg. Fake name, real email, real problem. My boyfriend and I have been together for a while now and I kind of moved in with him. And by kind of, I mean, I haven't told my grandma that I used to live with, that I moved out. So technically, I still live with her. I've been slowly moving my clothes and things over to his place and every once in a while I'll stay in the night with her.

She's old and very old fashioned. I'm afraid what she'll think if I tell her I moved in with him. What should I do? How should I tell her? Wow. You've moved out without even letting your grandmother know. Yeah, she's so old. Doesn't she need you there?

She's so old she doesn't even realize that the person she lived with moved out. I feel like she might not be okay on her own. It also is funny to gradually move out so slowly that you don't even, you try to make it unknown. Moving is a very large, showy process. So you got to make it really soft and small and spread it out over a very long time to hope that your roommate doesn't realize it. It's such a potentially terrible thing to be doing with your grandmother. Like, you're walking out with a chair. She's like, where are you going?

Like, what are you talking about, Grandma? Are you losing your mind? I don't think so. Are you holding a chair? I think you've got dementia, Grandma. I'm not holding a chair. Where have you been the last few weeks? I never left.

I was watching TV with you last night, Grandma. You're losing it. What did we watch? Grandma's just crying a little bit. Was it Matlock? She's playing along like, oh yes, of course. I remember we watched TV. Then she goes and sits in her room and just sits quietly and thinks about where her mind is going.

She goes to sit down with the chairs gone and falls on the floor. You dick. Don't move it with your boyfriend. Your grandma needs you. So, well, this is a sticky situation because she's already sort of already moving out. How should she tell her grandma? It's tough because all of her stuff is just gradually leaving. Well, you've got to tell her the truth.

You've got to be like, I'm moving out and if she's not okay with it, don't worry because she's not long for this world. Grandma, if you're really upset, don't worry. You'll only be upset for a few more years. Okay? Not a lot of time left. The grandma turns around and she tries to hit her with the chair. It just knocks her to the ground but doesn't knock her out.

Oh no. What was that for? My grandma, she's so strong. Holy shit. Yeah. I mean, old grandmas and grandparents are always going to be old-fashioned. You can't really be afraid of it. You just have to embrace it.

I just can't wait until we're the old-fashioned ones. What are our grandchildren going to be doing that they're going to think that my liberal ass is super conservative? I guess doing drugs at age 13 in the basement of my building. Maybe that's it. Maybe there's no more conservative old people after when our generation grows up. That's very small-minded of you to say. Or maybe. I mean, we live in, we're like a minority right now.

Our liberal asses, as you say. There's plenty of conservative people in their 20s that are going to be conservative old people. Right. So who knows? And there are also plenty of really open-minded old people that would be like, yeah, move in with your boyfriend. That sounds great. I'm happy for you too.

Me and your grandfather used to move in with each other all the time. We would go to swing parties when we were your age. Sit down. I'll tell you about it. No, grandma, this is why I'm moving out. You tell me about swing parties way too much. No, I tell you about them not enough. Strap on, y'all strap on.

So our advice is to bite the bullet and tell your grandma. Worst thing, worst, what's the worst case scenario? Yeah, just so you know, your grandma's lived through a lot of crazy shit happening. You moving in with your boyfriend probably won't blow her mind or anything. I mean, I saw Hitler kill many, many people. Trust me, I don't give a shit about you or your boyfriend. Well, you know, if that's not working, just point that out to your grandma. Like, hey, you know, in the grand scheme of things,

you've seen, you saw Hitler try to take over the world and I'm just trying to move in with Craig. Yeah, but he failed and you'll succeed. God, you're a quick grandma. We're gonna put you in a home, okay? Wait a minute, that's not my grandma. Oh, that's a good option. You don't have to move away.

Just send your grandma to a home. Now we're shitty people. Or you move in with your boyfriend to the home with your grandpa. And that is a brand new show coming to CBS this fall. Everybody check it out. My grandma and me, 8.30 Sunday nights. Cool, moving on. Next question.

This one is from Al. Okay, okay. Fake name, real problem. We will preserve your anonymity. We're gonna make up names to your actual emails. This one's from Al and he writes, My girlfriend and I have spent the last two weeks breaking up in a lot of convoluted ways.

And I guess you can say we finally killed it this past weekend. She's very promiscuous and has an effect on every guy she meets. So sadly, I anticipate her moving on pretty quickly. We're probably getting back together next year. Should I try to meet other girls too, even though the sole purpose is to be even with her? If and when we get back together? Or is that moving on for the wrong reasons?

I don't even know where to begin. This email is just wrong, wrong, wrong, and then it gets worse. It's such a goddamn cry for help. Wow, no. You're... Jesus Al. Al, you're doing everything for the wrong reasons. Even the back of your mind,

you feel like you're gonna get back together with a promiscuous girl that took you two weeks to break up with in a year? I guess my advice is don't. What's the point of finally... We finally killed it. You didn't kill it this weekend if you planned on getting back together. That's not death. That's a coma.

You knocked it out for a little while. Yeah, pump the brakes on your getting back together in a year plan, especially if you're worried that she's just gonna be with a ton of other dudes in the meantime. Yeah, he's so blasé about it too. She's very promiscuous and has the effect on every guy she meets. I guess she had the effect on him. She's probably cheating on me as we speak anyway.

What spell did she cast on you? When we get back together, should I hook up with people now just so we're at an even playing field when we do get back together? I guess my advice would be, yeah, do hook up with other people even if you think right now it's to even the playing field and maybe, just maybe, you're gonna meet somebody that's actually kind of cool that you like and is not gonna be promiscuous and take two weeks to break up with

and have some kind of crazy, rocky relationship that you seem to currently have. Yeah, I mean the best part of breaking up is the fact that it's over. You don't want to break up with someone for two weeks, go through very messy ups and downs, and then plan on getting back together with her. That's the hard part. You didn't get off this roller coaster. So would you say that, is that moving on for the wrong reasons?

Yeah, I'd say that's moving on for the wrong reasons. It's the opposite of the right reason. Right, but it's no reason. You seem to have no reason at all. You have no reasoning skills. Why don't, I mean, what was that quote from Swingers? It was like... Oh, I'm a brown, I'm a bunny and you're the bear

and she wants to always double down on 11. No, not that one. Oh, Glenn Livit, Glenn Fiddish, any Glenn, really. Alright, forget it. Who's your booking agent? Well, do you have West Coast representation? Wow, you watched this movie really recently. What quote are you thinking about?

That one that's like the very beginning. It's like, oh yeah, you just act like you move on and then Ron Livingston is like, yeah, well that's the trick. You act like you've moved on and then she comes back, but then when she finally does come back, you've moved on for real. Oh, they know not to come back till you've really moved on. Oh, so like you have to pretend like you don't care

until that actually becomes the reality. Yeah, exactly. Which sort of mirrors another line from Swingers which is act like you don't want this shit and they give you this shit for free. That's really interesting. Wait a minute, I think I'm uncracking. I'm sorry, can we pause this for a second?

You're uncrack? You're calling this guy, you're telling this guy he's making bad decisions while you're uncrack. Oh no, I meant I'm uncracking something. Oh, sorry, I thought you said I'm uncrack. No, no, no, the thing I'm uncracking is a bottle of, I don't even know how uncrack works, a rock of crack.

A vial of crack? Crack rock? Do people still do, is crack still a thing? I think so, you smoke crack, totally. Can you? Can I? You bet your ass I can. I can hold my crack better than anybody.

He just doesn't hold his crack well. Oh, that dude's such an idiot when he's uncrack. You know how sometimes there's people who are there on crack and they're a good time? Yeah, yeah. So he's an annoying crack. An angry crack effect, it's not fun. Some people will be on crack and they're dancing,

they're meeting new people, but when I'm on crack I pass out and I fall asleep. Yeah, my teeth fall out and shit. I'm not a good crack. You lose my job and I hurt people, that's my shit when I'm on crack. That's my crack reaction. What's your anti-crack?

So our advice to Al is move on. Moving on, the thing that you're trying to do, moving on is good. Whatever reason you have for moving on, do it. And then I think the right reasons will just sort of like seep into your mind. That's right. You'll be like, as soon as like, because you're right

in the middle of getting out of the relationship. So it kind of makes sense that you're like, I will probably get back together, which I think a lot of people say when they're getting out of a relationship. Yeah, it's like a way to mentally soften the blow. Yeah, but as you actually move on and you're with other people and you're probably feeling a lot better, you're just really going to, you're going to move on for real.

It's true. All right. Moving right along. Chugging. Chugging along. This one's a pretty detailed question, but I really like it. It's from somebody we'll call Bud. Bud.

That's right. He writes, A few years ago, a friend of mine called me up and invited my girlfriend and I out for drinks to meet his new girlfriend. As it turns out, his new girlfriend ended up being a girl I had hooked up with several years before at a party. We had a pretty wild night and she was really into me,

but I wasn't really feeling it, so I peaced out. Just totally bounced and never spoke to her again. A dick move, I agree, but that's also what I was thinking with. Anyway, my girlfriend and her hit it off and as time passed, they became close. A few years later, my girlfriend and I got married and so did they. We never spoke about it at all until last weekend.

We were at a party when my friend's wife got so drunk she confronted me about it after all these years in front of her husband and my wife. My friend now wants to kill me because I banged his wife back in 2002 way before he or my wife forever in the picture and my wife feels betrayed that I slept with her now best friend and won't talk to me. Am I truly the asshole everyone's painting me out to be

or am I a victim of circumstance and coincidence? Everyone is mad at me and not the girl. Can I salvage my friendship with my old friend and regain the trust of my wife who I never cheated on? I was 21 at the time. Doesn't everyone do stupid shit at 21? Am I screwed? Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated and needed.

Love, bud. Wow, I have no advice. You are screwed. That's amazing. Yeah, it's like I'm pretty awesome. It's almost like a cool movie. Like you retroactively cheated on your wife with your best friend's girl.

Right, you are. You're such a victim of circumstance. That's so tough. I mean you fucked up when you didn't address it right in the beginning. Right, but I can see him being like, it's a one night stand. Maybe we won't hang out with this couple again.

Why even bring it up? And then things start to get serious. You're like, oh god, now it's becoming too big that I don't want to bring it up. And then like three years later, it's too big to even bring up. My favorite line is my friends mad at me because I banged his wife back in 2002.

That's the title of his memoir. Banged his wife. Oh my god, you can't say banged and wife in the same sense. I banged my friend's wife. It's so crass, it's so rude, foul. Wife is lovely and bang is the opposite of that. Wife is like, you know, it's longevity.

It's family. It's face. It's his commitment. It's the strong roots of a tree. And you banged is like, it's destructive and mean and quick and meaningless. Oh my god, now you're mad at bud. I am mad at bud.

It's my wife that he banged. It is funny that people are not mad at the girl. Is she a victim? Isn't she on the same level as this guy? Why is it worse for what this guy did? He also wronged her. He banged her and then pieced. As he said, he bounced, which is...

He didn't bang and bounce. Yeah, B&B dude, you bang and bounce? No, yeah, because it's sort of like, she can be mad at him for that. She's owed an apology for the way he did that. You have nobody in this situation. You've wronged them all. It's weird to be the guy that has to comfort his wife

because some other dude banged her and called her like, hey, you're great. I banged you and I wanted to keep doing it and I'm sorry that he... I don't know, I wish that didn't happen. But whenever you're with someone, unless you start a relationship very early on in life, there's going to be bad stuff that happened in the history.

There's going to be times where somebody was banged and bounced upon or a bad relationship and it started before your relationship and you sort of can't affect it. Yeah, I think that's something that everybody has to deal with at this point. If you're meeting and getting married in your late 20s, early 30s, these days,

so you just know that anybody you commit to has been defiled by somebody else or has defiled someone else themselves. It's just like some terrible, disgusting, depraved act has happened in their past. But I think the problem here is that it's like, this guy is confronted with that directly. I don't want to think about somebody,

like my future girlfriend or wife, like sure, she's fucked a lot of dudes or a couple dudes, whatever. Or you know, wait, actually she's a virgin. As long as I can make this up on the spot right now, yeah, she's a virgin. Wow, that's great news. But I mean, you just kind of like,

you try not to think about it, but if you have to, this definitely happened. It's... Oh my god, you're crying. Yeah, I just feel so bad for Bud and this whole friend group. So there's basically nothing you can do.

You stole your wife's best friend too. All you can do is apologize. Yeah, and just keep on apologizing. And she can't possibly be mad at you forever. This seems like a thing that will go away. Yeah, I guess that's true. I mean like, because I think it's the kind of thing that you're just like, you know, your gut reaction is anger

because it's like you find something out that you didn't want to find out. But as everybody in this situation is going to like think about it like, well, they were 21, they were young, it's in the past, like we're these, we're new people now, we're adults, we're mature, we can forgive Bud. I guess the one thing he did wrong was now bring it up. Like she's, maybe she's like,

she's mad about the fact that he, that Bud banged her best friend. Now I'm saying banged. That Bud slept with her best friend, but the way she's saying it is like, I can't believe you didn't tell me. Yes, that's true. Everybody's just, everyone's just hurt by your dishonesty.

But you know what, this is actually good because I think this is a theory that I have, even aside from this question, like no one's better than when they're apologizing. All you need is a chance to say, like make a great apology. Say, you know what, I can't apologize for having sex with your wife, like I was 21,

we were drunk, it just happened. But what I can't apologize for is like betraying your trust now. I should have been totally upfront with you. I value your friendship and you're saying to your wife, like I love you more than anybody. You know, you get a chance to say all these nice things that can only come out as you're asking for forgiveness. So just make a great apology.

That's my advice. So you actually like apologizing because it makes you look better. I think I'm never better. I'm never better than when I'm apologizing. You're so resolute in that. What does that mean really? Look, you prefer messing up really early on in the relationship because you apologizing is the best version of yourself?

Yep. Every person I've ever been with, it was, I swear to God, on the heels of a great apology. So do you ever self-sabotage yourself just so you have something to apologize for? Yes, of course. This happened a couple of weeks ago. I don't want to get into too many details,

but somebody was mad at me and they went to a bathroom and I was there with my brother and he was like, man, are you pissed? This is going to ruin your night. And I looked at my smile and was like, no. This is exactly what I needed, actually. This is my chance to apologize. This is my chance to shine.

I can't tell if what you're saying is really nice and wholesome or absolutely evil. It's absolutely evil. Let me answer that for you. Nothing wholesome about this. Is that true for everyone or do you think you're a unique case? I don't know. I think maybe I'm just like some kind of sociopath?

Yeah, that's what it is. But I think I can pass off some of my sociopathic knowledge onto this guy right now, make a great apology. Oh, maybe. Yeah. As long as your apology is great, you're going to be better off. Like bones, they heal stronger than they were before they were broken. Yes.

So this wound, too, will heal and the relationship will be stronger than ever because you know what? You got through the weirdest, most messed up, time warp, pre-wife, bangage sesh that you've ever survived. Option number two is you guys just get drunk and swing. It's the only way to even it out. That's what would happen on a sitcom. You had sex with my wife and he's like, all right, I know what I can do.

You can sleep with my wife. The wife is just like, excuse me? No, no, no, honey. Honey, please, listen, hear me out. God, I guess I'll do it. It's the only way to make things right. You have to all swing. And then he just shows up with the wife's house.

She's like, I did not, absolutely not. I didn't agree to this. Now I'm mad at you for two different reasons. All right, listen, honey, who do you have to fuck for me to get off the hook here? Option number three, get a divorce and move away. You're done. Tear the bandaid right off. All right, there's your answer.

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Email the show. I'm the one that would check the email for you. All right. So car talk, which is another advice podcast about cars. Yeah. They do this thing. They just dump the chump where after they've given someone advice, they'll call that person like several months later and they'll say, were we correct?

Right. Did our advice like do well for you and, you know, yes or no. I like that idea. I have no idea why it's called stump the chump. Maybe it's not called stump the chump, but I feel like it is. Stump the chump and that seemed like two very different things. Yeah, I agree. But you know, click and clock can do no wrong.

Let's, uh, let's call ours, uh, the follow up pup. And then like, we'll start. It definitely has to rhyme. Yeah. Yeah. It'll be like a little puppy noise. Yeah. So that's the follow up pup.

Time to call this person back. Let's see if she actually got a hand job on a bus. Right. She did. Hey bud, what'd you say? Oh, well, we tried to swing and my best friend, uh, took a swing, punched me in the jaw. Then fucked my wife. Now he has his wife and my wife.

So, uh, fuck you guys. Ooh, it looks like the stump has been shumped. What was it? Stump. Stump. The chump has been stumped. The chump has been shumped. Your mom's shumper has been shumped.

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All right. Here we go. This one is from Bob Rooney. Hey dudes, I was flirting with this girl from my university on Facebook and she asked me out. I said yes, but then after looking through her pictures I realized I don't want, I don't want to anymore. So I just said I was busy.

Since then I've just pretended like it never happened. I see her and talk to her all the time at uni and she mentions and she never mentions it. I'm pretty sure all of her friends hate me now though and her friends are basically everyone in my major. How do I make it so I'm not so hated? You know what's interesting about that is I think you just have delusions of grandeur. Now that I've really listened to this question, you said you were busy, which is a very normal

excuse. Uh-huh. She sees you and talks to you all the time and never brings it up. Right. And you think her friends hate you. Why? It sounds like you just told the girl you were too busy to go out. It was fine.

And now you're just like, you're paranoid that people hate you. Well the one reason I do believe it is because she asked him out, he said yes. And then he said, never mind, I'm too busy, which seems like a fake excuse. I guess so. So in her mind it's like, what happened? We were going to go out and now he doesn't like me anymore. What did I do? All I said was I accepted his acceptance.

He said yes and I wanted to go out. Interesting. But he wants- Are you flirting with a girl before you even knew what she looked like to begin with? Well you know what she did. She had a really nice profile pic. He said yes based on the profile pic. He swiped her right a lot tender.

Now you speak in my language son. Now he's looking through the other pictures and realized he didn't want to anymore. Is that a very shallow dickish thing to do? Of course, but you know what? If you're a shallow dick, why not do you as they say? Well if he already said yes, was it considered a better course of action to say, to one, go out on a date. Two, say you're too busy.

Or three, be completely honest with a girl and be like, sorry I said yes prematurely. I looked at some and more of your photos and I'm no longer attracted to you. I think that's the worst possible thing you could do. But that's the honest answer. Right, when is honest- I mean I feel like honesty is like maybe good half the time. Full blunt honesty like that is probably almost never good.

But this girl probably just wants to know the truth. No she doesn't. So she's like- I just want this guy to tell me I'm ugly. That's all I want. I just want the truth. She's probably very confused. Be a little protected.

If you ask the girl out she said yes and then she's like, never mind I'm too busy. Wouldn't you be like, why? Would you want to know it's because you're no longer attractive to her? No, of course I wouldn't want to know that. So you would want her to just be like- I didn't hear that. She already knows the truth.

I think that's maybe the problem here. What? If I were talking to a girl, she said she wanted to go out. Then she was just like, I'm too busy. I would definitely assume the worst. I would be like, oh she doesn't, she's like not attracted to me at all. I don't think I want confirmation of that. So you would, but then you wouldn't, you wouldn't be like confused.

Be like, what happened? Why did she fall off the face of the earth? Why is she ignoring me now? After she said yes you would go out with me. I don't know. It's tough because I mean like, I'm not ugly. So how am I supposed to like- I can't commiserate with you because I have nothing in common with you.

I mean, Jesus, right? There are no set of four pictures that someone can look at me and say, no, never mind. I'm too busy. Right. That's not possible. No, people see four pictures of me and they say, let's hang out now. Okay, forget the date on Friday.

Can I just come to your apartment? It is Friday. Oh fuck. I'm sorry. I'm like, I hate myself right now. I don't know. I think that maybe what she wants is to like forget that it even happened. It's sort of embarrassing for her, I imagine.

So I think the best thing you can do is also if like, if she's pretending like nothing ever happened, you should too. Don't make it worse. Follow her lead on this. So just, you know, don't make it. What about going out on a date with her? That's what you should have done in the first place, asshole. You agreed to a date.

You can't look at her pictures and then say no. I mean, it's one date. You should have just gone out with her and then she tries to kiss you. Do it. I mean, go out on a date and then you don't have like, you don't owe her anything else. It's just like, hey, I think we're better friends. But isn't that, is it more of a dick move to go out on a date begrudgingly

or to just blow her off? No, it's way more a dick move to blow her off after you've said you'll go. Okay, but let's say he didn't say, let's say you, somebody, a girl asked you out, you looked at her profile picture, thought she was attractive, you said yes. She's like, great. How about Friday? Then you look at more of her pictures and you're like, shit,

she actually looks different than what the profile pic or I thought she was the girl on the left versus the girl on the right. And now you realize you're not actually attracted to her. Is the dick move to go out on a date, give her a courtesy date, just so it doesn't seem like you blew her off, or is it more of a dick move to just be like, never mind, I'm busy. I think you owe her a date in that, in that instance. You owe her a date.

She wants, you call it a courtesy date. Exactly. It's a courtesy. It's the nice thing to do. But if she knew the truth, she wouldn't want you to go on a courtesy date with her. She'd be like, if you didn't like me, you should have just not gone out with me. I don't think she would. I don't know.

It's so tough because you've made such a big mistake to begin with. I wish we could have talked earlier. Oh, Bob Rooney. What would you do? I don't know, man. I mean, this isn't my show. What would I do? I guess I would be afraid to lead somebody on and go out on any date.

And yeah, I think saying you're busy is the universal sign of something else went wrong and we can't be together. You don't need to know exactly why, but it's not going to happen. But now all of her friends are probably mad at him because he's the guy that- I think saying you're busy is what you should have done in the first place. But you can't say, I can do this date, which is, you know, saying you're not busy, then saying, actually, I am busy. You can't do that.

But isn't that what you say you do to ladies sometimes? If they want to hang out with you, you're not honest enough to tell them no. What is this? You're taking off your microphones. Is this why we had that question on? Is this why we're doing this? This is a public shaming of me. I mean, I think there's a difference between going out with someone deciding they're not your type

or you're not interested and, you know, giving the classic excuses like I'm busy and pushing it. And I think that's like a new social norm of like, oh, this person's like canceled on me twice. I can take a hint they're not interested. Versus you like accepting a date and then insulting her by canceling it. I think that's like a slap in the face. I think you at least owe her one date. You don't have to have fun. You don't have to lead her on, but you like-

You don't have to have fun. You did be pissed throughout the entire night. You did be surly in me. It'll be grudge the entire affair. I've gone on dates that I was like knew I wasn't interested in the girl as I went into them because like because I've been set up or because I agreed to a date or like something. It's I don't know, but I've also been in the situation where I canceled. Who knows?

You do you? Yo, do you? All right. Hopefully we helped Bob Rooney. We definitely did not help at all. Yeah. How do I make it so I'm not so hated was his question. I guess change schools, right?

All these people currently hate you. There's no coming back from this unless if he takes her out now, you think that'll make- I guess he can be like, hey, my schedule cleared up. I'd love to take you out. I think that will make you not so hated. Show her a good time and but then if she asks for a second date to say I- No, no, say yes and then say you're too busy. Yeah.

Oh, that's good. Yeah. But then take her out again. Oh, so you start like really fluff with her psychologically. Totally. Yeah, you should try- Oh, try to give her like an eating disorder or something. That's fun.

Or like give her a present when you go with her, like when you meet up with her. Yeah, but like- Try not to fall in love with you. Or a gift that's like really passive aggressive, like something like- Like a scale? Yeah, yeah, like this is a scale. Isn't that funny? That's quirky.

Right? Oh yeah, it's not fun. And then you marry her, right? This is fun. Oh, okay. Now we're having fun. Flip the script a little bit. They are not so hated, but uh-oh.

You skip out on the wedding. Okay. Don't you? So you were busy the day of your wedding. You were riding the highs and riding the lows. Uh, yeah. So we got nothing for you, man. I'm sorry.

Oh, no, I think your bit of advice was actually pretty good, which is say, you know what? My schedule cleared up. Go on one date with her. Show her a good time. And then I think that's all you owe her at this point. Because you did say yes, but you don't owe her more than a single date. And who knows? Maybe she'll change your mind.

That's true. She might be great. But she knows that her personality and how she is as a human is so cool that it doesn't really matter when her two pictures, two through six look like. All that matters is that you guys get along and also that all of her friends hate you. That's a perfect way to start a relationship with every single one of your girlfriend's friends. To win everyone over in this relationship.

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