If I Were You - 112: TextJake.com
Episode Date: October 27, 2014In this episode we discuss our newest business: A website that allows Jake to make text suggestions for you!This episode is brought to you by MeUndies.com.See omny.fm/listener for privacy information....
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Did um, things get oh shit, of course they did they got real a one a two a one two three
Mm-hmm a cappella. Yeah
Camilo Camilo wrote that really yeah, it was an a cappella jam that he worked on
Relentlessly for several consecutive hours. That's what he said. That's what he said
He also wanted to give his boy Shushank a shout-out because he has a breakaway hit called booty in my face
You'll have to hear it after the show I guess Shushank's booty in my face friend of Camilo
Holy shit, what I don't want to do this anymore
Everything no, it's just a wave of apathy hit me, and I think I'm done
Entirely recording today with a recording being with you anything with you. Oh, so it's not apathy
It's worse
Apathy is neutral. I don't care anymore. So I really don't want to be with you
You're you're not feeling neutral. You're feeling negative. I know it
Uh
This is a huge episode. This is a big one. Yeah 112. Yeah, this is we've basically been building to this moment
This episode for an a year a calendar a calendar year. It's been since we talked about building a website
Called text and Casanova that allows you to make text suggestions for people. Oh, I thought I didn't even realize
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm referencing here. Yeah. Yeah, and and after a year we're finally ready to announce it
That's happened. Yeah, it's real. It's called text to Jake comm which is actually better than texting
Yeah, texting Casanova is long. It's yeah, it's hard to say and it's hard to spell Casanova, right
Nova text Jake nova that's Jake. That's all we also considered text pert
Text pert yeah, text pert but then we were like is it expert or is it ext Bert? Yeah, it's hard
It's hard to say it's hard to pronounce
So we settled on text Jake comm which is good. It's like oh don't know what to text
Text Jake boom. Yeah, and you could spell both those words really easily. Yeah, cuz they're four letters single syllable words text Jake
So it exists. You can go to it right now. How does it work people?
submit their screen
people
Yeah, they
They tell me who the person is they give me a little context
Yeah, tell me what they're after yeah, and then they screenshots some of their previous texts
Mm-hmm, and I and I make a text suggestion
Yeah, and it's actually you that's actually me and we we had you more than just just a text
Yeah, I'd also like to advertise a little bit
So I don't just respond with like the text right cuz we have we've been doing it like for a couple weeks
It's like a beta trial. Yeah, so people have been using it so far
And they give me so much context that I really that I like to weigh in a little bit and and you know
Whatever way I can to help
Okay, so like it's like a little pep talk of sorts. Yeah, for instance a woman wrote in
Last night and she sent me some screenshots and she was like what should I text this guy and you know
Judging by the context and this previous screenshots. I advise her the perfect text message
But then also I was like, yo, you should dump this chump, right? So like so it's like border. It's half advice half
Text suggestions. Yeah, but there's always a suggestion in there. I'm a bit of a life coach
Yeah, does that does that make me hero? I wouldn't say of course. No, it doesn't I wouldn't say it doesn't does having this website
Make me a
Martyr no, no it doesn't a martyr someone who dies for a cause I
Would say that I am a martyr a hero
I would say you're gonna wreck statues in my honor. No, they should they don't they will not of course
Well, they will they sing songs of me
Songs of you songs about me. Well, there's be songs and tales song about you song about me totally not
Yeah, there should be there won't be I wouldn't say there shouldn't be I will say that you know
I would say I'm a martyr and I would say I'm a god. Okay
Here's what I would say. I would say you're a romantic consultant
I'm a hitch of myself
I've hitched myself to the wrong cart
You are good at this so we thought maybe in this episode we'd answer some text related questions
You can show off your expertise
And then if people want people want their personalized flavor they can go to text Jake
Com thanks to Garrett Boatman for building that website for us. Yeah, that was that was a solid
He did us a good solid. That was that was really on point of yeah to work for a year
That was a tight move by him because we don't know how to build
Yeah, the way he works for a year. Yeah for a joke. We said yeah was dope
Yeah, and now it's available and it's here and it's yours. So people have been emailing us
For a long time too if I were you show at gmail.com
We get these emails of people who are in sticky situations and we we offer our advice and this is gonna be like a texting slash
Tendering themed episode very toda
So you want to you want to get started? Yeah, let's do that. I want to you come up with the names for this episode since this is
This is you. This is your shit text shake.com. No problem. Here we go. Okay. Well, so all the themes will be anything anything you want
Sure the guys name or girls it is a guy's name Karsen daily Karsen daily right first introduced me to text
Remember the Karsen daily phone for Nokia that had text and no
He advertised this phone. It was like this
I think it was one of the first phones with text and that was like their angle like you can text people
Yeah, remember being like why the fuck? Yeah, why would you text? I'll call. Yeah, I'll call or I'll go on aim
Text was what the original thing was and then we made phones and then we don't have to text anymore
No, that's my life. Yeah
I'm a freshman in college and it's been a and I oh dear
I'm a freshman in college and it was a very long-distance relationship. So I came as oh my god. Why don't you read this?
I'm having a stroke. Sure
Two weeks ago my girlfriend of four months broke up with me
I'm a freshman in college and it was a very long distance. So it came as no surprise
After some initial anger spending a day running into bathroom stalls to weep and a brief stint where she begged me to take her back
We finally had a conversation and are parting on good terms
Here's my shitty idea. So I've downloaded Tinder and I'm flirting with girls in person just a bit as well
I'm rediscovering that I'm not great at it before we were together
I would often ask my ex for advice on picking up girls. She was really good at it
Like she could work for texting Casanova.com read text jake.com now that we've got that going she could
She she could work for text jake.com and she was the best female friend I ever had
So considering I can't email you guys every time I need advice
Would it be a bad idea to ask if she says yes to continue getting flirting tips from my ex
Failing to seize the cheese wondering if I should do me
Carson daily
so everyone
I guess not everyone but most people have someone in their lives that they run text by or like that are good at flirting
I've even run mine by you sure. I mean he just helps to be like sign off on yeah
Even Roger Federer has a tennis coach. That's he's not necessarily any Roger Federer's tennis coach asks Roger for text advice
And Roger himself actually asks you for text advice
I would really like to to advise our fed you actually wrote an email for Goran Ivanishovich one time. Yeah
It was to his uh ex-fiancé
Asking for the ring back. Uh-huh. Yeah, you needed to pawn it. Yeah
Uh, so this guy's texting expert and unfortunately is his ex-girlfriend
Yeah, um
So beside the advice of using text jake.com for all of his texting. Yeah, that's of course the initial
Obviously he can do that, but let's say
In general, would you use an ex-girlfriend's advice to text new girls? Of course not. Well, I don't think she would even say yes
So like asking her is a terrible idea. Well, what if they ended on such good terms that they're like, we're friends now
We could do this
You're not that
You're not friends and you can't do that
Is our ex-girlfriend's off limits to help you get new girlfriends? Of course. Yeah, could you imagine?
I mean, no
I can imagine like an ex-girlfriend from like 10 years ago to help me get a lady right fine 10 years ago
10 years ago ex-girlfriend
Life resets every five to 10 years
I don't think at any point would an ex-girlfriend of mine
Be good
At hooking me up with new girls. There's no
There's no girlfriend that you're in such good terms. There's no scenario. I don't think it even is
I don't think you're right when you say it. I don't think there's a scenario where it's not so loaded
Yeah, there's always the loadedness of it, but if it's been like
Two girlfriends three girlfriends since the first one and it's been 10 years
And she knows someone and maybe she can help me get a girl. You don't think that's in the realm of possibilities
I mean, that's an extreme version of what this guy's asking this guy's asking for a girl that he broke up with two weeks ago
to me, it's all loaded so like she
Doing that is so inherently flirting with you
Right, so if your ex-girlfriend of 10 years was like, oh, I have this new girl
I want you to go on a date with that's her flirting with you
Right that's her being like by curious you're attractive and single and available and
I'm interested in you having sex
And it's like so close to and it should be with me. It's a surrogate. Yeah
it's so
I mean this girl's probably gonna say no first of all and second of all
To have her weighing in on your text. I don't think she's got your best interest of like getting laid and getting over her at heart
Well, that's another good. She another good feature of text jake is the fact that you're completely random unbiased source
So you're not in you're not you have nothing emotionally or physically invested in this thing
We're like this girl. She can't distance herself from the situation so much so that she's not like in at least
Consciously trying to either sabotage or help you out. Oh, hey, what should I text this girl? Oh, that girl's not funny
Yeah, oh that girl's a bitch. Yeah, and then but you're you're you're removed you have nothing to do with these people
I'll tell you straight up if a girl ain't funny a little bit
I'll let you know how it is
Yeah, you have you gotten text her like how should I hit on this girl and you're like don't hit on her
Yeah, I got that last night. Yeah, some dude was like, uh
Yo, I'm like I match with this girl on tinder like a conversation sort of drying up
And she was just being an asshole to him. Yeah, and I was like
Text this girl to fuck off. I was so mad
She's mean to you. She's being mean. Yeah, don't take that
Uh, but I always do like the tech because I always write the text for what that person would want
Right, so it's like if you do want her if you want this to happen and you shouldn't
Text this right it's sort of like a genie granting a wish. Yeah, he's begrudgingly doing it
Yeah, it's when the genie was working for jafar. Sure. I will make you a powerful sorcerer
Shit man. Yeah
So as this guy's text genie you would advise him not to uh
I would advise you to find a new girl
Right to help you with this flirtation because that's how you met your last girlfriend
That's gonna be how you meet your next girlfriend. What do you think about tip into the old pot of soup?
Is that a is that a phrase it is now you don't want the old cold soup?
Yeah, you want that new hot soup reheat that soup
Uh, are girls good at texting for guys about girls? Do you know what I mean? Um
Oh, yeah, I think I've gotten advice from girls about texting girls and it's always terrible really well
You know as good as that girl in austin. She was good. Yeah. Yeah, she would but like she was good at texting guys
She wouldn't be good at texting girls. Oh, are you better at texting for guys or for girls?
I think I could text for both. I think
It's just different because like sometimes girls will text something. They know a girl would want to hear
And guys will text something. They know a guy would want to hear right you have to keep in your head that like
You can't always tell people exactly what they want to hear sometimes
It's like I'm gonna text you what I want to say
You have to interpret that in your way that you will does that make sense not to me
But I'm glad it does to you. All right, because you're the guy writing texts
It's not like it's in it's intangible. I can't I really can't teach it. That's the best part
It's a skill that you can't even impart to anybody else even if they want to that's why like football players make a lot of money
Because like if you're like, hey, how do you be fast? Like, oh, you just like pump your legs really hard
Yeah, I don't get tired and if I get hit it doesn't hurt that much. Right. I'm super human
Yeah, so their skill is football and yours is
Writing texts that are funny and charming
Yeah
I guess which one of us is more talented
Me or Adrian Peterson, of course the football what I don't beat my kid. You don't have a kid
But if I did
Well, who knows if he was being a total shit
I might uh, I might do something about it
Uh, all right, so our advice to this guy is don't ask your ex-girlfriend
Uh, because it's impossible for her to be completely unbiased and removed from the situation ask at least if not text Jake then uh
friend who's less involved in the
Yeah, you can like just work on it. You can get better at flirting and texting just keep on like just keep at it
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, uh, it's that 10,000 hours. Shit. Yeah, dude
You don't you don't want to you don't want to be relying on your ex-girlfriend for a long time
And then because then you're gonna meet your new girlfriend
Like man, you're so good at texting and and then you'll be like, oh, yeah
My ex totally texted for me
Actually most of the time you were texting my ex. Yeah, isn't that funny? You should be in a relationship with her
I know I wish I was
It's not a good base even if it works you're saying it's not a good foundation for the next uh relationship
I don't think so
Um, all right next question. Give me another name. This is a guy
okay, um
Sam Sam writes
I want to do you want to hear the context of how I came up with sam
What was the first one? These are all like in my history of texting. Oh, okay
So it's Carson daily and then sam is your dad sam is my dad because I didn't have a cell phone
So my dad would give me his cell phone on the weekends. Oh
You little shit so from Friday to sunday
I had a cell phone that I could text people with
Oh, so this is very early on. I must have been like 15 years old
My friends would like call that cell phone. So you've almost been texting for half your life. Yeah
I remember my friends would call that cell phone during the week and my dad would just pick up and yell at them
This isn't jake's phone during the week
He almost brought it on himself coming up with that weird system where you guys share his cell phone
And then you would you would pick it up when his his friends would call on saturday
This isn't sam's phone on the weekend. It's a mistress
Um, i'm just joking obviously
He would never do that. You think my dad my dad already fucking my dad tried to cheat on my mom. He struck gold
He struck gold with my mother and that and lightning doesn't strike gold twice
Yeah, if uh, if you know if you catch my drift, which you shouldn't because that sentence doesn't make any sense
He struck gold, but lightning doesn't strike gold twice. You know what i'm saying there
Yeah, I just think like yeah, no he
He pulled a rabbit out of his ass with my mother and he can't that's not something that you can
That's not something you're gonna fuck with that's not something you could even do again
Yeah, you can't duplicate that. It is funny to lovingly refer to your mom as an ass rabbit
Love you mommy. Uh, all right sam her wits writes. Hey guys
I just started out on tinder and after an hour or so I matched with this beautiful girl
I gave her my number and we texted for two minutes then no response
We mentioned getting coffee so I waited two hours and I told her I was free still nothing
I waited two hours later and asked if she had plans. I guess in my excitement of this match
I sent three dreaded texts then to add I accidentally found her on okay cute
But in check to see if it was her and it was and it was so I messaged her on that because she sees who visits her profile
Anyway, what did I do wrong and how can I fix it? Did I seem too forward?
Should I wait a week and then text her again call her I'm freaking out and I don't want to lose this dime
Love sam call her you got to call her
If she if you messaged her three times and she didn't respond I fear the only hit her up on okay cupid and she didn't respond
I think a call just a call is an order. Yeah, and if she doesn't answer leave a voicemail leave another voicemail call again and then
I feel like between
The the number the profile and the okay cupid stuff you can triangulate her actual location
Show up uh show up outside of her house and then kill yourself in front of her
I feel like that's the path we're going down, right?
I know I'd hate to extrapolate too much, but I feel like that's what's going down. Um, you
do what you're
You're running the risk of
You know being flagged for a restraining order, I think unfortunately. Yeah, you're being a psychopath
You have to you have to not you're harassing her. I'm sorry
It's hard to say don't read into it too much
But if someone doesn't respond to a single text
Is that game over can a girl be interested in me and I text her and she doesn't respond?
I feel like it's reading so much into it, but it's true. Isn't it she gets the text and she decides not to respond
Yeah, I think you if you
Like if a girl texted me and I wasn't interested and I didn't respond that's I fear game over forever
It's not forever. Well, this is how you should have played it
So I'm gonna give you advice that you can't follow but you can follow going forward
She doesn't respond to one text
Stop just don't do anything and then wait a day or two and then text her again
You just sort of recharge reboot the conversation
Act like the the last text never even happened. Oh, I see so you have to wait
Exactly. You just you let it reset. Right. You let it reset. How long does that reset take? I think a day or two
But you don't you don't you don't
Three texts in a row then contacts are on something you already had her number. Why revert to okay cupid?
Oh, you're saying that's a that's a de-evolution but it's all but it's like this creepy
It's this creepy thing where you're like standing in the foyer
Of her house that's having her number
You're standing in the foyer and she goes to another room and you're waiting
And what you're supposed to do is just wait in the foyer and what he's instead done is
You call to her you're in the foyer. You're in the foyer. You're in the house. It's okay. You call to her
She doesn't respond
He calls to her louder
She didn't respond and then you start to walk you around the downstairs and she's like
Now she's taken to hiding because she doesn't know what to do
You're still in the foyer, but for some reason you exited the house climbed up a trellis and you broken through the attic
It's the you're being a you're being creepy
So let's let's the what's the at this point the police are coming to this house. You you have to vacate
Yeah, you have to start over you the house needs to burn down to the ground
So if you match with someone on tinder and move it to text
Best best course of action play it cool. Yeah, you have the number and you're saying
Text only when texted back
I'm saying you tech
All right, I guess what I'm saying is
Or you don't have to have said it already if yet. She doesn't general advice
Text
My general advice for what texting imagine tinder. Yeah
Just be friendly and have fun and make jokes
But but never send two in a row always wait to respond always respond two in a row is fine
Just like
You don't want to like ask a question have her not respond and then like ask more questions
Because then she's like, oh this guy is like not taking a hint
Right. I think people are almost testing like can they take a hint? Yes, they can take a hint
So I can keep on going because when I'm done they can take a hint
You just there it's a creepy test it for a lady. It's like let me see what happens
If I don't respond to this guy for a couple hours and you've you've failed you freaked out
You freaking you you told us you were freaking out. What do I do? I'm freaking out
You shouldn't have freaked out. Uh, I like the logic that he has in his email, which is uh
I accidentally found her on okcupid and checked to see if it was her and it was so I messaged her because she sees who visits her profile
You accidentally checked to see if she was on okcupid
And then when you realized that she saw that you saw her profile you messaged her because she she would see who visited her
So like in your brain she saw that you visited and you're like I had to message at that point
No, you did not sad. Yeah, like oh, shit. I'm in her profile. I'll just hey just checking to see if it was you
Waiting on your text from tinder dope cool
Go get them tiger. So we're being a little mean, but it's hopefully a necessary
uh
Cold what is it cold comfort harsh tough love tough love? Yeah
It's cold comfort. I like and tough love. It's cold comfort tough love and
Coidirection, you know what it helps is uh to have more than one girl
Yeah, because then all your eggs aren't in one basket. I want to have lots of different eggs
You're not feeling you're not you can only have so much of your pie charts
And if you have a hundred percent to one girl or one other person one thing that gets you excited then you you put too much
Emotional stock in it right you want to spread it around one goes away. That's okay. You still got 60% of your stuff and something else
Can I make a little can I make a look can I paint a little picture here? Sure
Can I uh, so do you mind if we pause the podcast and I get an easel? What?
I want to paint a picture on an easel not even a canvas. You want to paint the easel
Yeah, so I'm gonna paint this picture. You want to you know all your eggs in one basket
You don't even want to have one type of egg. Oh, I'm saying great a brown farmers market
That's a good farm fresh. That's a delicious egg. That's the kind of egg you break in your hand and you can hold the yolk
Okay, that's your that's your prize egg. Okay, then guess what we got some we got some little eggs
I picked up at 7 11. We have like a cracked egg on the ground the other day. Oh, we got we've got like
Just an egg shell that for whatever reason you're saving or what about my my mini carton of egg white onlys mini carton egg white only
You've got you've got a cadbury egg. You got a little
Chocolate egg over there. You've had ovary. That's your sugar woman's ovary
That's not kind of egg. You got a you're a sociopath. You got a lot different eggs
So I want to like the quality this girl. I understand she might be the farm fresh egg
That might have that might have been the egg still warm from that rooster's ass. Oh my god
Roosters don't like I don't know how this shit works
But so you you can't freak you have to like have these other eggs that you don't give a shit about
So when the farm fresh egg comes comes out, you know how to take care of it
You know how to hatch that into a delicious little
Chicken or you know how to cook that into a perfect little omelet. Uh, which one is sex?
Um
Sex is the omelet sex is well sex is sort of enjoying a a perfectly poached egg
Oh, yeah, or is he a poached egg? Really a nice quiche or a frittata almost that's a frittata with a little meat in it
You know what i'm talking about i'm talking about your sausage, dude
This is your text advice. I want to make a frittata with a little bit of sausage
Uh, but unfortunately you dropped this egg on the ground and it was the one you wanted to eat more than anything
Yeah, but that's okay. There'll be other eggs. There are always other eggs. Yeah, there's plenty of eggs in the sea, bud
Yeah, don't you worry? Yeah
What are those eggs doing there? I'm afraid of what happened that got eggs into the ocean. Oh caviar
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Um, all right next question
Yes
Hey guys. Oh shit. We need a name. Is it a guy or a girl?
And this could be a girl great
We'll call her Rebecca because that was the first girl
I texted
Rebecca writes
My problem with texting are smiles and emojis. I don't know when and how many I should use
It seems to me that sometimes a sentence is definitely a guy. Yeah
It seems to me that uh
Sometimes a sentence looks rude without any smile since there's no voice intonation to help express the emotions
What do you usually you what do you usually do?
Also, do you use the old style of colon parentheses smiles or do you use the new iphone emojis?
Very toad to you guys love Rebecca
I could write a fucking book on emojis. Yeah, I'm serious and it would be written in emojis
It would the title would be eggplant smiley face handgun and then the word cool in a square and then the money flying away
Always the money flying away
You're pro emoji
Very as a rule. It's fun. It's friendly. It's it's
It's like a challenge when somebody does like a a group of good emojis
Yeah, like I want to search through my emojis and respond. It's actually this is slightly unrelated
But it's it's this is unsolicited tender advice. Oh, shit. Remember
Well, let's let's not give it away for free. We have a website now. Oh, yeah, pay me for it
Uh, this episode is brought to you by text shake.com
Continue. Do you want the unsolicited tender advice? Yeah. Yeah. Should we say this? No, no. Yeah. Yeah, all right
um
I tried this on you and it worked and I haven't tried it a bunch, but I know it would work
You tried it for me. You mean? Yeah, I tried it. Oh, and I tried it on you. Yeah, I would imagine tender
uh, I wrote
Ola like ola sara como a star
Yeah, and she wrote back in Spanish because everybody likes to fucking showcase that
You're like you say something in Spanish. They're like, oh, I can respond in Spanish and I will yeah, there's no chance
I don't think there's any chance somebody ignores that totally
Okay, so great great opening line is a Spanish Spanish. Just unless you're Spanish
then French
And that's it. It doesn't go to any other lower layers than that
So what does emoji also if you match with somebody who's very who's uh, Hispanic looking it might be racist. Yeah, don't tread lightly
um, but
I just think ola como star
Every time they'll respond. Uh, and then the emoji. Where does that fit in? Um, all right. Oh, so emojis is
Similar you you write emojis. It sort of inspires somebody to be like, I want to do that too. I want to make an emoji joke
Yeah, I want to find a silly emoji to share. Oh, that's good. So that's a good way to like
Flirt, yeah, and you can get pretty, uh
Clever with your emojis. I think so. Yeah, you can like make little rebuses almost
Was a rebus like a a pictograph like when you said try to top that but you did a top hat
Oh, so like that's it's like try to and then a top hat and it's like you almost have to
Solve it like a puzzle. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of fun. Very fun. Yeah, and um
and um, all I'll say is
Don't use the semicolon smiley face emoji a lot
But it is a nice. It's nice. It's definitely it's nice and the winky's nice
It's good to be retro to be throwback
I wouldn't use it every single line. There's other ways to to develop or to show your intonation
Yeah, yeah, there's the bigger picture of how to like
When do you use exclamation point when to use dot dot dot like these are like little ways to uh,
Add frosting to the cake of your sentence. Just like lots of extra letters, you know, people are like
Oh, okay, period. Just looks like you're like, hey, let's meet at the bar at six. Okay, period
Oh, shit would 6 30 be better. Yeah, I said six was okay, but like no, you can't just be like, okay, period
Yeah, but if you write that society, we're all too insecure. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to say at the time has passed
Sorry, grandfather. This is why you'll never text
But if uh, if you write the letters o and then k and then an exclamation point
It's the same word. It is the same word. Okay, exclamation point. Okay, k k k k k k a exclamation point
I would say
Fuck, okay. You never need to say it. Let's meet at the bar at six. Perfect period. Yes, period
That is friendly, but those are good. It's fun. What about a smiley face is ugly. Forget it
So you're you're you're you're getting rid of okays. Yeah
Okay, it's dead. What about fine. Sure
No, never
If it's not if it's if it's okay, then it's perfect. Yeah, if it's perfect
Then that's the perfect is not okay. Okay is not okay and perfect is perfect
Yeah, or like if you if you would like if six six is okay
And you want it to be some if you want it to be seven if seven would be perfect, right seven would be perfect
Oh, always make it perfect. Don't settle for okay. I should be a motivational speaker
Always be perfect. Don't settle for okay. Then I just go back behind the stage and cry
Oh
Periods are also pretty bad, right ending a sentence in a period. Yeah, I don't like periods periods a little final
a little somber a little morose
Um, let's take a break. Uh, we have nothing to say but uh, but uh, I guess let people know once again if you're joining us
Uh text jake.com is live. It's available to you if you want it and uh, we also have a live podcast coming up
In los angeles november 13th november 13th
We've sold out about half our tickets, but there's still another half still available. So please do it do it
You got to come grab it while it's hot. Uh, it's always a fun time
And it's it's extra fun when there are more people there
You want to know what'd be cool if we started like a big whiskey thing, right?
Because we drink whiskey on the stage. Sure. I say everybody in the crowd should have
Whisky as well. Oh, sort of like how the man show had everybody with like big beer mugs
Yeah, like the ziggies. I want like everybody in in the audience holding up a whiskey when I cheers. Oh, that's good
So so everybody order bullet bourbon on the rocks. It's on you
You it's on you. Yeah to do that. Obviously we can't afford a drink for everybody in the tent
No, I'll have one. I'll have one up on the stage and we'll be cheersing and we'll be very toda very toda together
That's the key. Um, don't we have other shows? I don't do we have one in vermont's
We have one in middlebury college, but it's available only to students
But I think if you're passionate enough and you live in vermont, you can find a way
Yeah, if if you are true to your heart and you know for a fact you really want to make it happen. I think
For for for us you can make it there
I don't think there's ever been somebody who tried to go to a show like that and couldn't right like sorry students only
Hit the road
Yeah, because if if that happens if you buy a ticket you show up and they're like you don't have a student idea
Then I'll just come out and put you on my list and you'll be fine. Yeah
What do you mean? I put you on your list. I'll just be like this guy's with me is my plus one
Sorry, sorry. You can't come in. He's a student. All right, then I can't do the show. Whoa. All right. Let's not overreact
I'm here. Can you do the show by yourself? Absolutely?
I think I can what you even the non-student just me and this student
We're going to a bar bullet bourbon on the rocks, baby. It's on you
Uh, all right, should we get to our last last question final one? Let's do this the final something
um
Yeah, another dude who doesn't quite know how to text
Okay, um, well
Let's do
Micah the last guy to text me my brother
Micah young Michael writes
Hey jna long time listener first time emailer
I recently gotten back into contact with a friend that I had when I was younger
She's beautiful intelligent funny and we have an incredible amount in common personality wise. I've absolutely fallen for her
This is where the problem sets in when we first started talking again
We had a lot to catch up on but now it's hard to find something we haven't previously discussed
We haven't even had a whole lot of life experience to talk about me being 19 her being 20
But since she's currently studying at a far university, we're unable to hang out in person
Which in my opinion is where I excel communicatively
So finally my question for you Casanovas is how can I keep up a texting conversation with this girl without rehashing old topics?
I love jake's previous advice of being the solace of her boring day
Uh, and if you guys can share similar tidbits of information, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much Micah
um
Yeah
Do you get do you understand this thing where it's like, okay?
We've caught up completely we we can no longer
Talk about old things. We have to come up with new things to talk about now
Yeah, I understand this moment of panic because catching up is easy. How's this? How's this like? Oh, this is so fun
And then you're done. What's next?
But once you get over this hump, it's gonna be better. It's gonna be beautiful
You don't want to dwell in the past live in the now look forward to the future. Remember your past. It is what shaped you
Visit the past, but don't live there live in the now look to the future
Recall the past you can go back. We're losing the past is nice. Let's talk about the past
I love the past the past the past the past. How is this? How is this? Remember when we did this?
But now look at the now look into the now
But look beyond to the future and when you're in the future
You'll look back on the now and you'll smile and you won't even remember the past
And in the future the future will be the now and you'll be looking forward to the present and the future
And the past is what made you
awful
So convoluted
Somebody has to write that down. Yeah, because someone write it down. I want it to be the forward of my book
Just a crazy man's rambling. That's the forward of the book and the rest is all emojis. Oh, yeah
So it's still called eggplant handgun smiley face. It's just the forward is passed forward by insane man
Uh, can you or what do you do?
This is kind of like the same situation when you have a lady friend and you guys text all day
And then you talk at night and you're like, uh, I've told you everything now
We have to talk about things that didn't just happen
Well, this is how you move forward because I think right now this guy
Is listening to my old advice being the solace of her boring day
You know your bright spot very cute
She's like, ah my day was long and boring and i'm looking to you to make me smile and laugh
Yeah, now you need to be a pillar of strength the whole hort
So from solace of boring to pillar of strength
Yes, so she is going to look for you not for not for a laugh, but for validation
Like how is this class? It was really hard. I don't know if i'm good at it
No, your teacher is dumb. You're smart
You say these things that inspire me and I can see that you are a beautiful person
And then she's like wow, you are validating to me when I feel low
I will look to you for strength
You are my pillar of strength and I don't mean in the sense that she's weak and she needs you
But she will feel emboldened by your genuine love for her
Okay, it is a beautiful
So at first you you're it's a it's a flirtatious thing you you get this you get your text and you see this person's name on your phone
You're like, yeah, that's what I that's what excites me. She texted me this person or this guy texted me
I like seeing her the phone on the lock screen. That's like a nice little cheap thrill
I like it because it makes me happy and and laugh
Then you become you delve deeper like a sperm entering an egg you become not only just like a
Added bonus in her life, but something that she actually almost borderline needs to hold up
Now she's looking towards you not just for the the frosting, but the cake itself
Yes, you need to actually provide her with some nutrients. I think of it as a tree. Right. Okay. So at first you're just
This isling is fun. It's it's cute. You're watering it. You might be like eating some berries off the branches. They're not poisonous
They're actually pretty tasty
But is this tree gonna stand the test of time only if you nurture it only
Only if you allow it to grow by giving it love and all the things that it needs
uh, what is there anything to
Asking like being the first person to like
uh
Being the one who looks for her to be your pillar of strength like maybe you say to her
Hey, I have this problem. Yeah, I mean whether that's really otherwise
I think it definitely works both ways because otherwise you're just some sort of like
Weird therapist who doesn't go through who doesn't like open up or share anything. It's a relationship
So you have to tell you have to be vulnerable to and see how she reacts to that
That's the first step in the text thing is like when things get serious because at first it's so lighthearted and flirty
And once you get back past that stage, we're like, hey, can I ask you like can I ask you something?
Or just like saying that you're just like, oh, shit's getting real like
I think the most part shouldn't really be done over text. I think texting should always be like
Pretty flirty and fun. Yeah, but sometimes you're gonna need to say things that are like to get a little bit real true
Yeah, but I wouldn't ever be like
Insecure and sad over text. No, not to be like, hey, this like you said this earlier and it really bothered me
Right
This it's it's almost good to bring up other problems. Hey, can I ask you your opinion on something?
Can I do this because then it's like, oh, I value your mind
Exactly. Hey, can I value your mind on this and then that's great because it allows that's a very good point
You want a good you want to let every you want to let everybody feel like a superhero and you want to be someone's superhero too
So you're like, oh shit
I had such a bad day and somebody needs to say something nice to lift me up
Right and then she rises to the occasion. She is a superhero to you. She makes you feel better
You feel good. She feels good because she made you feel good
And then when it's her turn, it's like taking care of somebody when they're sick
You know when when i'm sick, you'll be waiting on me, but when you're sick, I'll be waiting on you too
You take care of each other. That's beautiful. It really is. So is there anything you look to the future?
You live in the now and you remember the the past but that's what they do
So here's my tip for him
What could he say he should instead of just bringing up old stuff let her in on a problem that he's having
Emotional dilemma if it's not there make one up. There you go. How's that? That's very good. How's that for devious?
I like that. So saying oh, can I ask you can I ask your opinion on something?
Can I uh pick your brain for a moment? Then she feels like oh
He values me as more than just a flirtatious partner, but as an intelligent advice source not like, you know, my my dad hits my sister
No
Maybe but my mom hits my brother. Yeah. Yeah, something
You can still talk about familial abuse
And also I'll just mention one
Other thing if you don't if you're afraid of getting that deep right now
Yeah, if you want if you want to build to that even slower
Something that's always fun is since you've talked about the past talk about things that you're looking forward to
Like a fake making up a fake trip like one day. Let's go to the rainforest or whatever
Oh, yeah, you you you get into that. Yeah, that's always fun
You're like one day we're going to take this road trip down the coast or down all the all from Buenos Aires to
Patagonia, yeah
Okay, and then you start and then it's fun because you can just like google image search these
Exotic locations screenshot them and send them to her. It's all thoughtful and you're building an image together right fantasy together
Exactly build a fantasy together is always is always fun because then she'll see like
She'll see something and she'll be like, oh that reminds me of this like fake life that we've
Envisioned and here it is. I think she's looking forward to it
And romanticizing this time that she could be spending with you and then one day
She'll find something like in a library and send you a picture and it's like, oh man
Now i'm making her think about me when she's just out and about in the wild
And that's the ultimate the ultimate. Yeah, when you're getting unrequited texts
You've inceptioned her to the point
It sounds so devious, but it's very kind. Yeah, because he likes her right devious when you
Have no interest in yeah, if you do this just as a weird social experiment. We don't recommend that right
If your intentions are pure if your heart is pure, but how do you get into that? How do you get into the
Hey, you want to take a trip? That seems like a lot of you gotta know what she likes. She's like, oh, I love I love wales
Yeah
For instance, I don't fucking right who the fuck likes wales
Whalers of course
All right, no, I'm just kidding if she likes whales then you like, you know
Hey, we should like there's a whale watching trip in Antarctica and then you start yeah, whatever. It's just like
Pinpoint something she likes
Heighten it to like an extreme version of what a rich, uh
A zealous billionaire would do yeah
And then there you go and watch the emotional rewards just pour on down boom, baby
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We couldn't have done it without you your emails inspire us and embolden us to create these businesses that may be
Completely built to fail. It's it's absolutely unscalable. It's unreasonable
We're capping our messages because we can't even afford to become more successful than the limited capabilities that we have
There's only one jake. I'm sorry, baby
Uh, so get in it while uh before jake decides to give up forever
Uh, yeah, that's it. That's our time
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Jordan in australia who wrote a true detective parody for us. What that's pretty chill. Yeah, let's hear it
Then i'm gonna go listen to booty in your face
Booty in my face. Exactly. Uh, all right, cool. See you guys. Bye
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