If I Were You - 350: Dream Cheating (w/Yeardley Smith!)

Episode Date: October 1, 2018

Voice of Lisa Simpson, and podcaster Yeardley Smith joins us to discuss bullying, The Simpsons, and her new podcast "Small Town Dicks!"See omny.fm/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If I were you, I'd write an email to these two koi Jews, would I were you? All right. Whoa. That sounded so Seattle. It was very pop grunge. It was, it was. Yardley, are you a pop punk grunge fan? No, I'm a closet hair metal fan. Oh really? So that was close enough, I hope maybe. It's like the next incarnation of rock like you had. Hair metal actually was a very short period of time and then it morphed into grunge and much more progressive stuff. Yeah. And then where did you land on that timeline? Well, I'm 54, right? So I, I love my 80s rock. Yeah. My, but I, I recently discovered somebody said, okay, Yardley, if you're to put together a list of, you know, 10 songs you can't live without, what would it be? And
Starting point is 00:01:22 everything's in a minor key. It's a very emo list with a little bit of Aretha Franklin. Oh, that's nice, which is also now dark. Mine is all dashboard confessional. That's cool. So you would love that opening theme song. It was actually written by a guy in a band who's a full-time producer, audio engineer named Brandon Peralta. His website is brandonparalta.com and he runs Blockhead Gaming. I guess he's not part of a band. He's part of a YouTube channel. So thank you, Brandon Peralta. Awesome. And thanks to Yardley Smith for being here. What an honor. Thank you for having me. I'm, I'm so amazed that you get a new theme song every show. They're not all winners. They're not all that good. Yeah. And it's not only one for a show, we end the show with a different
Starting point is 00:02:07 theme song. That's unbelievable. I don't know what we were thinking. What an incredibly engaged audience you have. Thank you. They're way more talented than us. You're the most part. That's not what I said. But it is what you meant. Lock the door. I can always read the undertones. That's unfair. We usually save the plugs for the end, but why don't we just get right into it? Why the hell are you here? What are you, what are you talking about? It's not The Simpsons. I think enough people watch The Simpsons. You're good there, right? We're good. We could talk about The Simpsons though. I feel like if I, you can't really have me on a podcast or something that's mostly auditory, because sometimes they film podcasts and not have me do Lisa Simpson. Wow.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I was afraid to ask, but you are. Everybody's afraid to ask. You can't not do it. It's just, it wouldn't be right. It would be right. It would be criminal. I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna throw my favorite quotes that you threw out the year. I'm playing it very cool, but Simpsons raised me. I didn't have much parents growing up. I have just VHS tapes of recorded Simpsons episodes. You could do worse, dude. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. He's got two loving parents. He just chose The Simpsons. Yeah. We'll get to you recording our voicemails later. Okay, you'll be sorry because people would just call and hang up because we're calling here the voicemail and go like, that's a fucking cool event. Yeah. All right, I'll save my 10,000 Simpsons questions
Starting point is 00:03:27 for later in the show. But what, you're doing a podcast now? Yes. So we have, I have a true crime podcast that I- Amazing. Called Small Town Dicks. That's funny. Which is an amazing title. And I actually did, I did a morning show the other day and they weren't allowed to say dicks on television. Even though it's private eye? I mean, that's what I said. I said, if you don't think of it in terms of me too context, but rather in terms of the noir slang in 1940 for detective, then you could say dicks and they're like, no, we can't say it. We can't say it. You can say whatever you want on our podcast. Thank you. I mean, that, and that was the- We'll bleep it out, but you can say whatever you want. Fair enough. Probably best anyway.
Starting point is 00:04:13 She just like edit my sentences together with every fourth word. Yeah, no. So we'll just, we'll ask you a question and I'll edit to you saying dicks, dicks, dicks, dicks. Which might actually be the answer to a lot of these questions. But is your true crime podcast, your true crime podcast a nonfiction? Oh, yes. All of our cases are told by the detectives who investigated them. Cool. Which is, especially for podcasts is a real point of difference. You get that a lot on television much more. Yeah. And so we, I co-host with my best friend, Zibi Allen. Who is she on The Simpsons? She's not on The Simpsons. She's just- Why are you friends with her?
Starting point is 00:04:52 I just, don't you know none of the people on The Simpsons socialize? Oh, is that true? Yeah. That's why we all still get along. No, that's good. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. But it is true that we actually don't really hang out together. All right. You guys record separately, right? And some people you can record from home. No, we record all together. Oh, really? Yeah. Like a, like an old radio play. That's amazing. You crank it out in 22 minutes. And then plus commercials. It takes eight months to animate one episode. What are they taking so long? Because I feel like I can, I can crank one out in at least six weeks, eight weeks. And that's just me.
Starting point is 00:05:24 If you don't draw with your toes, you could go a lot faster, you know. And they got a whole team of animators, I'm assuming. Yes. And a lot of it is reusable, right? Well, now we went to computer animation in, I think it was season 12. And the thing, it didn't actually speed anything up, as I understand. Not really. You can, it made the backgrounds easier. Oh, I see. Which was good. And it gave you, instead of, you know, 64 colors, you've got a literally a million colors. The first Simpsons were only 64 colors? Something like that. Whatever the, whatever the standard spectrum for colors was in animation from forever until season 12. Oh my gosh. It was that. And then they went to computer
Starting point is 00:06:11 animation. Of course, you could have, you know, the most granular little slices of the same shade. So, but they still hand draw a lot of stuff. And especially if you're, if they're doing a Halloween episode, which is all the backgrounds are different, all the clothes are different. There is no cut and paste, slap it on, you know, like paper dolls. It's not like that. Yeah. I just want to ask you Simpsons questions. Anyway, we can mix them in. We can mix them in. All right. Well, yeah, we'll pepper them in throughout. This is not just a Simpsons Q and A. No. But the small town dicks is you're doing a full season. You're doing two seasons. Yes, we're, we've just launched our third season. Our first, we're only a year old.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Wow. But we had, our first season had, I think it was 14 episodes and we released them once a week. Each episode a new crime? Yes. A new case. Got it. And we have several recurring guests, several recurring detectives, but the other two co-hosts of the podcast are identical twin detectives named Dan and Dave, who are both detectives in the same precinct. Dan and Dave. Yeah. Private eyes. Brilliant. It's so brilliant. Dan investigates violent crimes and Dave investigated sex crimes and child abuse and he just was actually promoted to sergeant. So we're pretty happy for that. Oh, wow. I was totally imagining there's like a case of a missing Chihuahua or some like sort of silly crime. Oh, no, no. These are like, these are for real.
Starting point is 00:07:43 This is hardcore. And the funny thing is, is that the name was, we thought there would be a much more levity in it because Dan and Dave are actually incredibly funny and there's a fair amount of gallows humor that goes into these law enforcement professionals processing their day to day because how else could you survive, right? Seeing the worst of humanity every time you leave your house. Oh my gosh. And so, and then we got into it and realized, oh, no, it's much darker than we anticipated it in order to give these cases and the victims and the whole scenario, the reverence that it deserves. Meanwhile, we still, we were stuck with our names, small town digs, which we still really love. Even the acronym is bad, STDs. Oh, wow. Yeah. So we call our fans
Starting point is 00:08:29 the small town fam. Nice. And they really are fantastic. We have over 705 star reviews on iTunes. Holy cow. Like, they're so active. That's awesome. And, and we, Zibi and I decided, so Dan and Dave would tell us these stories about their day to day and Zibi and I on, you know, one sort of tipsy vacation where we were, Zibi and I were with them and we were all just sitting around and we were all a little tipsy and we're like, well, this should be a podcast. And then. That's how every podcast. That's what I've heard. Everybody says that. I'm funny. I could have a podcast. I got drunk when I started a podcast. Yes. What did I do last night? You check your iTunes? Oh, no. Eight reviews. Oh, God. So we, then six weeks later, we were like, yeah, we can do this. And so,
Starting point is 00:09:16 we of course had no idea what we were doing. And we decided we wanted it to be highly curated, sort of like this American life as opposed to more free form where Zibi and I do most of the talking. We're like, no, no, we want the case to be the star. And, and it, and it's, it turned out to be incredibly fascinating to hear how these detectives get from A to Z. Like when you read it in the paper or hear it on the news, you get, you know, a dot. You get the, not even barely the tip of the iceberg. So to hear the investigation from soup to nuts and all of the obstacles and all of the boxes you have to check in order to do it right so that you haven't violated anybody's rights so that your case, if it goes to trial, stands up in court, all of those things. It is,
Starting point is 00:10:08 it's a lot of heavy lifting. Have you found that it's similar to like what we see on TV? Like as true detective accurate or is it like, no, that's a glamorized version. A lot of it is just paperwork and it's a lot of paperwork, which is incredibly just exciting. I love paperwork. But you know what really floored us was how long it takes to get DNA results. How long does it take? It could easily nine months. Oh, really? Easily nine months. And you could be the guy or the female detective who's like, no, you don't understand this guy will rape again or this guy will kill again or woman if we don't get these definitive results and the DNA lab now that we rely on it so heavily is so backed up and a lot of states, not California because we have huge metropolitan areas, but a
Starting point is 00:11:00 lot of states that aren't as populated as we are have one DNA lab for the entire state. Oh my God. What the heck? You can animate a sentence in less than a take to analyze DNA. Yes. You know what? Give me the DNA next time because I really feel like I can do it in four to six weeks. You have an overconfidence issue. You think in six to eight weeks you can animate an episode of The Simpsons and do DNA analysis? Probably simultaneously. How hard is it? It's A to T and C to G or something, right? And I feel like once you figure that out. Did Lisa the vegetarian feel as important when you were recording it as it was when it came out and did you meet Paul McCartney and Linda McCartney? No, sadly. So that show was David Merkin was our show runner at the time
Starting point is 00:11:43 and he actually went to their farm. I believe they have a farm in Surrey, England or they used to where they also have a recording booth and David went by himself. I was not invited. I was really, really disappointed in that. And I think it was definitely after the fact that I learned that both of them insisted they would only do the show if Lisa remained a vegetarian for the rest of the length of the series. Wow. And so when I heard that, I realized that that was significant. And to their incredible, their enormous credit, the writers have held to that. And occasionally they put Lisa in a situation where like we had an episode a couple years ago where she was, she ate bugs and she didn't know if that meant that she was going back on her vegetarian, you know, her
Starting point is 00:12:31 lifestyle. She thought, is that cheating? Is it because they're not really animals? I think even vegans give you a pass on straight up bugs. Oh, they do? I think so. Because you don't get a pass on butter as a vegan or eggs or beef. You can't even have lamb. You can't even eat the small one. You kicked a dog on your way to me. Yeah, that didn't eat him. Wait, is that the level? You're chewing a cat tail as a joke for Yardley. Oh, thanks. All right, I searched, I searched our email account for the Simpsons. Maybe someone had a Simpsons related question for you. Do you think? And there were, there were a few that came up. This one was my favorite. We give these people fake names just to preserve their anonymity. And this is a 20 year old girl. That's
Starting point is 00:13:14 what we do on our true crime podcast. Oh, really? Yeah, we changed all the names and we never say the places and none of the detectives. We never say their last names. Oh, that's smart. So this is a 20 year old girl from Melbourne, Australia. Do you have, do you have a fake name just so we can refer to this lady as something, anything, maybe a name from your life or if you want to make one up? Oh, for her? Yeah. Oh, um, yeah, how about Penelope? That's good. That's pretty. Penelope rights. I'm a 20 year old girl from Melbourne, Australia. And I'm a huge Simpsons fanatic. I have all the DVDs on countless items of Simpsons clothing and jewelry. And you to do a Simpsons quote of the day on my social media. I also create Simpsons art at Homer J. Simps on Instagram if
Starting point is 00:13:55 you'd care to check it out. Anyway, I started a new class at uni and I didn't know any of my peers. I was okay with this because I make friends quite easily. I have attended this class three times, each class being three hours long. During this time, some of my peers have noticed my Simpsons obsession. This resulted in a particularly loud mouthed guy starting to call me Simpsini. I was okay with this because I thought it was funny. However, recently, the rest of these circle jerk and divas in class have taken to name calling a little bit too far. I've even been called El Farto. It's pretty funny. I barely speak during this class and none of these people know me very well. I've stopped wearing anything slightly Simpsons related to this particular class. I have this
Starting point is 00:14:38 class again in a few days and I feel like ditching. So, Amir, how do I stop this name calling? She wasn't asking me. Now, they assume you haven't been ridiculed in your life. Do I stop going to class altogether or risk failing the subject? You can put me on blast. Make me feel bad about my past, but help me get through this class before I kick your damn ass. Thanks. Love. Penelope. So, Penelope is in a quandary. She's too much of a Simpsons fan if you can believe it. How cool for her? She had no idea that you're at least going to ever be on our podcast. We waited for this one moment. This is so Lisa herself can answer it. I'm sure you've experienced Simpsons fanaticism beyond what this is. Just like a few pieces of jewelry clothing and some DVDs. Oh, yeah. You
Starting point is 00:15:22 know, we've seen full body tattoos. I have a great story of a waiter who I was in Vegas a few years ago. He used to make shoes in Italy. I had a shoe company for five years. Wow. There are two shoe shows a year in Las Vegas. And I ordered room service and the waiter showed up and I was by myself and he goes, oh my God, I knew it was you. And already I'm like on a high alert. Oh no. And he says, I saw the ticket come out and I saw your name. Oh no. And I said, I'll take this order. So he comes, he brings it up, right? Brings me my club sandwich, puts it down and says, I just have to show you something. And he starts to pull up his pant leg. You assume it's a gun? And I thought Lisa was a vegetarian. How dare you? You're supposed to stay in character for Paul.
Starting point is 00:16:10 For everyone all the time. And he has Simpsons tattoos all the way up his calf and his shin and like little things like the nuclear power plant. Oh, that's cool. And Lisa and her saxophone and Homer and various things and all the characters and starts to pull his pant leg up higher and I'm like, okay, you could stop at the knee. We're good. That's good because it was going to go on and there were outlines. I believe you there are more tattoos. I think there's a Krusty the Clown somewhere in the middle there. There I saw a guy with Krusty the Clown tattooed all over his chest and his belly and his Krusty's belly button was his belly button. Krusty's belly button. Yeah, that's a lot. That's just a lot. Anywho. That's a good tattoo. I think you would get a Simpsons tattoo.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I was thinking of getting a Millhouse on my butt. What? Yeah, I like Millhouse a lot. Yeah, I like the way he looks, the way he talks, the way he acts. And so I think, you know, as a glasses guy with blue hair myself, I was like, oh, if I ever get a tattoo, it'd be fun to have Millhouse. Millhouse could take a few porters from you to be a little bit cooler. Maybe Lisa Simpson would actually give him a time of day. That's right. Thrill House or poor Ralphie Wigan maybe. He's lost. My cat's breath smells like cat food, is what Ralph Wigan says. Do you do any other voices on the show? I do an old woman named Mrs. Glick once in a while, although they have killed her off and resurrected her, I think, just to have a laugh at my expense, because it's pretty
Starting point is 00:17:39 terrible. Yeah, it's pretty terrible. Anyway, Penelope, her life hangs in the balance. Penelope, what should you do? Well, you definitely shouldn't give up the course and succumb to peer pressure. Um, I guess I feel like, uh, so she says she hardly talks in his class and people are just ganging up on her. That's such a hard place to be. I was, I mean, I certainly had my fair share of bully encounters when I was a kid. Where did you grow up? Washington, D.C.? Washington, D.C. I did. Was it as dangerous as it sounds? Uh, I think pockets of it, you know, but not where I lived. I live in, of course, a nice middle-class neighborhood, but I did take three city buses to school. Wow. It's just a different time, you know, and your mom would send you out to play,
Starting point is 00:18:29 and we had a cowbell. She would ring the cowbell when it was dinnertime, and that meant get your ass back in here and it's time for dinner. Wow. But you just were gone for hours at a time. It's a classic Americana. Yeah. And then other mothers got cowbells, so you had to actually learn to distinguish your own, which was a lot, I felt like a lot like being a pet. Find yourself wandering up to strangers' houses. Shit. Shit. Sorry. My mom has that. Just give me a meat loaf and we'll call it a day. So do you think this, this girl should embrace it? Do you think she should maybe stop wearing as much Simpsons or lean into it even more heavily? Tell them, tell the haters go at the crusty tattoo. Yeah. Kick it up a notch. I like the El Farto nickname. Maybe she
Starting point is 00:19:15 can embrace that. It's so hard. I mean, I think if you, because you don't want to not lean into your passion altogether and acquiesce to the people who are giving you a shitty time, right? Yeah. You don't want to feel like they won, but at the same time, you don't want to be so isolated that you are just, you really are isolated. I don't know. Help me out here. What do you do? It's kind of tough because like almost no matter what you do, you did because you were getting bullied. Right. You either double down and you have more Simpsons stuff. Right. Or you stop, stop dressing up altogether, but like either way, the bullies chose the course. Or maybe you do just like don't break stride at all. That's right. Living well is the best revenge of the nerds. So you keep it going, you embrace it,
Starting point is 00:20:04 you don't let it get to you. What is name calling? Name calling is so bad, but what is it? It doesn't matter. It's just words. It just sounds. And I feel like if somebody, like I, if somebody calls you a name and it irks you, then I always feel like there's something inside of you that feels like they might be right about that. Because for instance, if somebody says to me, Yardly, you're, you're really not that smart because they didn't go to college, right? Neither. Then I just feel like. Oh, you guys just missed a fist bump. I just, that doesn't land on me at all because I feel like I, I'm pretty life smart and I have certain strengths in academics in some places and not in others and I'm okay with it. So that insult will never get you anywhere with me. But if you say to
Starting point is 00:20:54 me, Yardly, you're not that pretty, then that was always an area that I was really, I was very much in doubt about for most of my life. So that would make me go, oh, shit. Oh God. Okay. What do I, what do I look fat? And then I would start to, so if there's something about them saying that she's a nerd or a dork for loving the Simpsons so much, then I wonder if there's just some tiny piece of Penelope that makes her feel as though she should have other interests, which is absurd. Yeah. Don't let, don't let the haters win Penelope. Don't let the haters, the haters win Penelope. And don't let them win Yardly. I assure you, you're prettier than you are smart. Beautiful. Beautiful and dumb.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Ow, that hurt. That was such a backhanded compliment. Thank you. No, that's just the name of Jake's autobiography. One last thing on Penelope, I think, I feel like you touched on this too, that she doesn't talk a lot during class. So maybe if she just doesn't let these guys affect her and she just starts talking more during class, still one, find something new to make fun of her for, or realize that she's like more, like she's got bigger interests than just the Simpsons and then they can talk to her about those things. But if she's quiet and wears Simpsons gear, there's not really anything for people to react to. Yeah. If they're like looking to react to something. Jake saves the day. That's, isn't that the classic way that it goes? So you
Starting point is 00:22:19 do listen to this show. That's so well, that's so good. All right, let's answer some more questions. But first, I want to take a break, thank some sponsors, and we'll be back with more questions and answers with Yardly after this. Thank you to AuraFrames for sponsoring this Head Gum podcast. You know, AuraFrames is sponsoring not just this episode, but the entire Head Gum network, Jake. Wow. That's correct. I mean, this might be the Goat Father's Day gift. I think it actually is. Yeah. Yeah, not just Father's Day, but if for any not so tech savvy family member that you need a gift for soon, these digital photo frames might be the best of all time. Yeah. For me personally, these things are perfect. I'll tell you why. As you know,
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Starting point is 00:26:50 mind of the show. It's the way of like these smart writers to flex their intellectual muscles. And it's all filtered through this sweet eight-year-old girl. Did it feel like that important when you were auditioning for it back? Gosh, when was it? 30 something years ago? 87. I think we started on the Tracy Elman show. No, at all. I mean, Lisa wasn't, she wasn't really a person until we went to Half Hour. That's right. She was just sort of a bratty sister to Bart, who was the star, because, you know, the Simpsons is based on Matt Groening's own family. So Bart is an anagram for brat, and that's Matt. Nice. He has a sister named Maggie, a sister named Lisa, his mother's name is Margaret, and his father's name is Homer. And his grandfather's name is Abe.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Oh my gosh. Like grandpa. So, Lisa... What a coincidence. What? What do you know? And there is a story which is apparently true and not an urban myth that when Matt, so Jim Brooks was, James L. Brooks, our executive producer, was a big fan of Life and Hell, which is Matt's syndicated cartoon that he said forever, the comic with the bunny. Blinky and blinky, yeah. Blinky, the one-eared bunny. And so Matt, Jim Brooks, wanted Life and Hell for these little, what we called bumpers on the Tracy Elman show. We would do, like, I think it was three, four, thirty-second segments or something, or we did four segments a show, and we would tell a whole story in those four segments. And Matt was then informed, as he was on his way to his meeting with Jim Brooks, that if you give
Starting point is 00:28:34 them Life and Hell, then you no longer own the IP, right? So, if the show succeeds, great. You'll be, it's mailbox money, it's great, and you'll have it, but once the show is over, you will, it won't be your livelihood anymore. And if the show fails, then your livelihood is immediately wiped out. Because they took it, stole it, and then they're gone. And we own it. And thank you very much. Wow. Off you go. So, he, so he, in the waiting room of Jim Brooks's office, he drew the Simpsons on a napkin. What the heck? And named them after his family. Holy cow. Yeah. And so he's like, yeah, no, I got this other cartoon about a fucking dad named Homer and Maggie, the baby. Exactly. It'll be funny. Anyway, it'll be funny. Anyway. We'll figure it out in 30 years, but it'll
Starting point is 00:29:22 sound pretty good, right? Yeah, really good. So Lisa wasn't, she was just, you know, the bratty little sister until we went to half hour. And then Jim Brooks decided he wanted her to be extraordinarily brilliant. Super well read for literally the eight-year-old. That she would be, as you say, the intellectuals, and she really does embody all the writers, also their emotional angst growing up because they were all the biggest nerds and the smartest people in the room. And they didn't know where they fit in. And so they work out all of their childhood angst to Lisa Simpson. So a lot of responsibility. Yeah, you're like their therapist. I am. It's like that, that episode where Bart gets really good at hockey. It's like Bart gets to sit up front
Starting point is 00:30:02 today because he's a good guy at sports. That's like all what they heard, all the writers heard growing up. And then Lisa takes it up, you know, at the end of the day, the nerds get their revenge. That's, of course. And at the same time, though, I think in, if you met them, you go, oh, it makes complete sense. Every time they give something to Lisa Simpson by the end of the show, they've taken it from her. Yeah. Whether it be a friend or a pony or an achievement. That's right. But like the sweetest episodes were like the ones where like Lisa and Homer finally bond. Like that's like the show that's like, oh, now I'm feeling touched out of this cartoon that's like 95% silly. Yes. All right, now you have to ask a small town dicks question.
Starting point is 00:30:44 When you meet the dicks, sorry, an episode. Now let's try to answer some more questions. Maybe some more stuff will come out of there. This one's about farting. So this one, the first one's about the Simpsons. This one is more in my wheelhouse. Okay. Do you have a name for this lady who is in a bit of a fart crisis? Oh, or a shit pickle. Captain Farto. Oh, yeah. El Farto. El Farto. Okay. El Farto. I like that. All right. El Farto writes, holy shit, I'm in a crisis and I need your help. Last night, my boyfriend of several months and I were snuggled underneath the covers, chatting and having a good time. Always well until the most horrific, unbelievable smell hit my nose.
Starting point is 00:31:25 I quickly realized it was a fart, a fart, but not just any fart. This was a colossal. I've never smelled anything before this bad in my life, fart. Both of us lost the ability to speak out of a heart. Our bodies were completely frozen, eyes watering, head turning away in agony. Now, normally I would have laughed it off. However, my boyfriend and I haven't gotten to the point of being comfortable farting around each other yet. So I don't know what to say. We both just sat there trying to pretend like we weren't smelling the worst thing in the world, but that's not the worst part. The worst part is I don't know which one of us farted. I don't know whose butt it came out of. I truly have no idea. So there I was lying in the bed for the next hour trying to figure
Starting point is 00:32:02 out who farted. This could be a good one for your murder mystery show. Because here's the thing, I did have gas that night. I admit it, but I thought that that fart couldn't possibly be from me. So trying to think on my toes, I let out a quick toot outside the cover to check the status of things. And boy, oh boy, it smelled terrible. So conclusion, it could have been me, but also it could have been him. We had the same food that night, so there isn't enough evidence to make a firm conclusion. I also don't remember farting before that smell happened. Usually I'm very sneaky, spending my butt, spreading my butt shakes apart in order to create a tube effect with my anus, letting out a fart seep out silently. I cannot believe the level of thought.
Starting point is 00:32:50 It's not TMI, it's just a good amount of EMI. But I didn't do that, but I didn't do it that night. It is possible that the fart could have snuck out. Sorry, is it possible that the fart could have snuck out without me noticing? So now I don't know what to do. Get Dave and Dan on the horn. I wish I would have said something in this moment. And now I don't know how to bring it up again. Should I apologize? Should I point fingers? How do I broach this topic? Also, is there any way we could start farting each other around each other? I'm really tired of holding my butt cheeks apart every time I need to pass gas. He always asks me what I'm doing, and it's weird. Yeah. Thanks, love, El Farto. Wow, what a story. What a tale he wove. She wove. Right, she wove. I just,
Starting point is 00:33:28 when I hearing about fart jokes, I just assume it's a man. It's nice to hear one from a female perspective. Well, if your relationship hasn't moved past the who farted in bed and created the Dutch oven yet, then perhaps it's not a relationship that's going to, that's longed for this world. Yeah, you break the seal quite quickly. I'm just, it seems like at a certain point, somebody's going to fart and you're going to look at each other and you're going to giggle and go, sorry. And then we're done. We're moving on to the next thing. Yeah. I don't know. That's just me. You do have to, I think you got to do it quickly, but to me, there's like a difference between just like a loud comic fart and then a stenchy fart. Yeah, the silent but violence. I can break
Starting point is 00:34:12 like a horn toot into a relationship right away. Because it's funny. It's loud. It's abrasive. It's everything you want to be. But it's not silent and quiet and reeks of shit, which is everything you don't want to be. Is there a question in El Fartos, you know? The question is, do I broach the topic? Is it possible it could have been me? Oh, that's an interesting question within it. Have you ever farted and not noticed? No, I think it was, it was him. It was clearly him. You know when you fart. Unless you forget. Sometimes my girlfriend's like, did you fart? I'm like, oh, maybe, but it happens so involuntarily that I don't remember. But like, I bet when you say maybe, then it probably wasn't you. No, no, it probably was me. I fart all the time, but I know
Starting point is 00:34:58 every time that I do. It's almost like, did you just yawn? It's like, oh, maybe I did just yawn, but I don't remember because it's so involuntary. You need to come back and live in the moment a little bit more in here. Yeah, I'm always on the Twitter's, the Instagram's, farts and yawns are coming at see if anatomy, gas and liquid in every direction. I could attest to that working across from him. I think that the weirder thing here than like it farting in front of it. If you're not sure that it's you, the weirder thing is to bring it up days later. Yeah. So like, if you're trying to save face, don't do it by broaching this topic. And who knows when this question was even written. Indeed. Is there a date on that email? Yeah, August 30th, 2018. Oh, God. Yeah. So it's a
Starting point is 00:35:40 month, a full month later and they can still smell the fart. The rumble still roars, echoes off the walls. Something's been eating away at me. So should I apologize? Should I point fingers? You say just let bygones be bygones. Well, at this point. Let it go. Let it go. Let it dissipate as the fart has done. That's beautiful. The Simpsons didn't really ever address farting. You think they would have at some point homer or Bart let one rip as a joke. I feel like Nancy has who does the voice of Bart. You know, she does a great fart sound into her elbow. I used to get in trouble imitating Bart doing that. Yeah. Or like the armpit. So maybe as a prank. I can't remember if we've actually ever done anything where the fart was so lethal people were passing out.
Starting point is 00:36:26 That's more of a red and stippy thing. I don't know. That is just more family guy like. Yeah. I wonder if that was ever like a writer's code. It's like Homer doesn't need to fart. He's already dumb enough. He's not like the kind of guy. Yeah. You know, it's funny to think that I'm almost homers age. How old is Homer? I grew up. I started, the Simpsons started like when I was Bart's age and now I'm roughly Homer's. Wait, Homer's 37, I believe. Or maybe 37. Yeah, that's probably about right. And I'm 35. Lisa's eight and every time she has a birthday she turns eight and we just don't talk about that. Yeah, so in theory she was seven right before that birth. Yeah, just for that. Well, just for a few minutes in that episode. Yeah. Are you, you see these Simpsons super fans,
Starting point is 00:37:06 people just assume that you are a Simpsons fan, but it's not necessarily the case, right? Like, you're not necessarily a fan of the show just because you're on it, right? Do you watch the Simpsons? Do you like the Simpsons? Do you consider like certain seasons better of the Simpsons? Or is it more of a job for you? No, it's definitely, it's definitely more of a job. It's, I guess what I don't have is an encyclopedic knowledge of our show, the way some fans do, which they find incredibly disappointing. Right, because they're watching it a lot. You're not necessarily watching the episode. I don't watch it to the extent that they do. I don't, you know, like when we had, we've had a couple of Simpsons marathons, I haven't watched the Simpsons marathons.
Starting point is 00:37:48 And then are there episodes that you haven't seen since you recorded? Oh yeah, lots. Like, Lisa at the Beach House, do you remember that? I love that one, the Summer of Four Foot Two. Yeah. Yeah, it's fantastic. Grown-up men like Gourvidal. Yeah, yeah. And he's a smart boy than I have. He's a, there, I mean, at least the Simpsons, I believe, is one of the best female characters ever created for any medium, to be honest. She was kind of feminist before it was cool. Yes. In the early 90s, when people didn't necessarily fight for that yet. And sometimes feminism, even now, is a bad word, I think. I think less so now, and certainly with the Me Too movement, there is some of the curse of being a feminist has come off as well. Yeah. But I think
Starting point is 00:38:35 there was a misinterpretation about feminism. I think people felt like, oh, you, you know, you burn your bra and you hate men. Right, the feminists are angry. Exactly. You just want to emasculate everybody who's not like you. And I don't think true feminism is that. I don't think it fits that definition at all. So. Right. March burns a bra. Yeah, it's like a flashback. She has long hair. She's like a hippie in the 70s. She burns a bra on it like combust instantly. Right. It would, of course. All right, let's try to see if we can answer another question. This one is written from a man. Wait, no, another lady. Do you have another lady's name? Maybe a Simpsons character that didn't necessarily become as iconic
Starting point is 00:39:21 as Lisa. Oh, Maude. Maude, Maude Flanders? Yeah. Wow. Nice. You're good. You're good, Blum and Felt. You're too good. The Simpsons even made fun of the nerds where it's like at Comic Con. It's like the guy brings up a continuity error that the writers don't even know about. That feels like that was pulled directly from their life. Oh, yeah. All right, Maude writes, Hey, guys. So occasionally, once or twice a year, I have lucid dreams of my ex first love for many years ago. These dreams come randomly, even when I'm not thinking of him beforehand. It's so annoying because I wake up emotionally disoriented, even though I'm waking up next to my current partner who I love with all my heart. This usually leads me to feeling that urge to
Starting point is 00:40:06 social media stalk them a little. I know in my heart I do this because I'm simply curious about their life, and I have no desire to reach out or even be romantic again. What are your thoughts on social media stalking exes, or more importantly, specifically, your first love? Is there a healthy limit maybe once a year? Is it subconsciously harming my current relationship? Are first loves an exception to the rule? Am I a bad girlfriend? I often can't help but feel guilty occasionally doing it, even though I'm not lusting for them anymore. Thanks so much for your wisdom. Love. Mod. Mod. Well, first of all, I don't think dreams are literal.
Starting point is 00:40:43 At all. I think that they're more often than not metaphors. I feel like we don't have the whole story. Like, how did you and your first ex break up? Was it a good breakup? Was it a bad breakup? So if you're stalking your ex, my first thought is, what do you think you're missing, or what do you think you missed? You don't think it can't just be pure curiosity? Like, what the hell is that person up to? Yeah, but curiosity is about something I don't know. The publicist is just dropping shit left and right over here. There was a funny moment where he dropped his phone, lifted it back up, went to put it on the
Starting point is 00:41:19 table, missed, and dropped it instantly again. We can edit that out, but I think we should leave this description in because it's really funny. They couldn't help but giggle in his face. Sorry, man. You should have done it again. If I did it twice, I would have just done it three, four, five times, started to throw people off the stage. And then start kicking the table. Yeah, excuse yourself. Fall down the stairs. Tumble into the street. Homer style. So back to the definition of curiosity is about you need to find something out that you think you don't know. Right. So do you ever social media stalk exes? No. Never. You're not curious at all as to what they're up to.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Uh, no. Interesting. No. What's good on you? What about you, Jacob? All the time. I don't know. Like, I guess this just speaks to a larger theme of our show where, like, this girl has had a dream about her ex and she feels racked with guilt. And she's like, and I looked at his Instagram. Should I do that? Should I try to do that, like, less than once a year? Meanwhile, like, I am on my phone following into every thirst trap imaginable. Yeah. Every guy is looking at so much salacious shit on Instagram and on Facebook, digging up like garbage. Yeah. This is, this is fine. I think is she clearly has it in check. I think it only gets
Starting point is 00:42:39 a, it's only a problem if you, if you like start to pine for the guy, right? Yardley. Yes. Well, but to your point where you said she's asking us if how many times a year, that means she's already worried that the desire is stronger than her ability to control it. And that is really the crux of the issue. What is, what's at the root of, I can't let that go. What is, what is it often? Is it something, so is it more less than she's letting herself on to be or can it be something else? Could there be curiosity? It's something unresolved, whether it's lust or you owe me an apology or I owe you an apology or I'm afraid you don't like me or what any, whatever the myriad of reasons could be. That's why this guy is turning up in her dreams. That it wasn't like
Starting point is 00:43:31 a complete breakup. There's something that needs. And why she didn't just call her best friend or even say to her partner, go, I can't believe I dreamed about my ex. I don't even, I don't even like that guy or I never think about that guy or that was so weird to me. And then it's over and we don't even get this email or you'd rather. Have you ever lucid dream, like woken up within the dream, the dream within the dream? I used to sleepwalk. Yeah. And I, that's scary. That should scare the hell out of me. Well, it scared the hell out of my second husband too. And, and I used to laugh in my sleep, which it was very charming. I would laugh and talk. I laugh and talk? Yeah. My, my wife laughs in her sleep sometimes and it creeps me the fuck out. It creeps him out too.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Yes, of course, because that's like how horror movies start. You're like in bed alone and then you hear like, like that's what people do when they're about to stab you or something. Then you look over to your partner and his eyes are just closed or her eyes are just closed or like maybe a little bit open. So you just see the whites of their eyes. Is it a crack up? Is it a giggle? Is it a guffaw? I think sometimes it was a giggle and sometimes it was a full on. You ever dream as Lisa? No. Of course. I used, when I did spend a summer in France when I was 16 and I started to dream in French, which is apparently some measure of how fluent you're getting. Wow. I have a friend that's fluent. I like always ask him like, what language he's
Starting point is 00:44:59 dreaming in. What does he say? He dreams in like Portuguese, Spanish, and Polish. Wow. And like never English. This is Eddie, who we stayed with in Lisbon. Lisbon, yeah. Really? That's cool. That's fantastic. I speak Hebrew, but I never dream in Hebrew. You never dream in Hebrew? I would never dream of it. What about like when you dream of your parents? Don't they speak to you in Hebrew? Never, ever have those two cowards seeped into my subconscious because they control my every waking moment. I love my mommy and my daddy and they don't have to be in my dreams because they're in my life. Holy shit. And do they speak to you in Hebrew? Oh, all the time. I promise I don't understand a word they're saying in my dreams. No, no, no,
Starting point is 00:45:41 I understand. I'm fluent. I'm just being silly. Thank you so much for coming by. It's been 45 minutes. It's just flown by talking to you, gleaning your wisdom from you and then throwing it back. That seems sarcastic. The worry about the wisdom. We don't have... We do think you're wise. We don't normally have wise people on this show. It's usually just us. Yeah. Or maybe an occasional dumbass friend. So say the name of your podcast again. Small Town Dicks. Small Town Dicks. Season three is up, is just, has just launched now. We have two other seasons, which is a total of about 29 episodes to listen to and you can get it everywhere you love to listen. iTunes, Spotify, Google Play. That's the beauty of podcasts, right? What? You don't have to go to
Starting point is 00:46:24 a specific place. Anybody can consume it on their own time, in their own schedule, in their own special way. That's exactly right. Do you listen to podcasts or are you a true crime podcast? I do. Is that how this started? Because you're like, oh, I love true crime. I love true crime because I was, I've been thinking about this a lot because people have asked me and I realized, you know, every crime is a breach of trust. So when you lock your house at night, you feel like, well, nobody's going to break into my house and then they do. Or if somebody that you know or you don't know, but who you assume isn't going to harm you, harms you, that's an enormous breach of trust and society can't function without some level of trust. And so I'm fascinated. I was a really good kid.
Starting point is 00:47:09 I followed all the rules. So I'm fascinated and really don't understand how you get to the point where you are willing to implement this massive breach of trust, either with somebody that you know or somebody that you don't, that would change your life immeasurably for the worst forever. Oh my gosh. I don't understand it. I'm going to subscribe to your show now. Your show is actually really good. And I, you know, if I didn't, if I thought it was silly, I'd say it's silly, but it's really quite, it's really very beautifully done. I like me some true crime. Let me check it out. So exciting. Well, thank you for coming by. Of course, anytime. Come on back whenever next week, this week, the following week, whatever. I'm going to,
Starting point is 00:47:50 I'm going to come. If you have your own question, Yardley, or anybody listening at home, you can send it to ifireeshow at gmail.com. Send those opening and closing theme songs as well. This closing one is written by Anderson Reagan. So thank you to the gentleman who wrote the opening theme song. Thank you to Anderson. Thank you again. You forgot, of course. Yeah. He wasn't on the Simpsons, so I don't even think about it. We'll call him Armin Tenzarian, which was Principal Skinner's real name, of course. Let's play the song. Okay. We'll see you next week, everybody. What do you mean? That was a hate gum podcast.

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