If I Were You - 503: The Greatest Height
Episode Date: August 30, 2021In this episode we discuss dating apps, Dorito commercials, and White Lotus.Advertise on If I Were You via Gumball.fm .See omny.fm/listener for privacy information....
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Here is a chipmunk with a bushy tail
And if I'm being honest, his humor is getting stale
But there he is again, Jake Hurwitz
I'm not saying I'm gay, but
If he has to get in bed with him
I'd let him fuck my butt
While I'm here, I'll give him ear the attorney
And while I'm at it, Jake gets the golden mic
No doubt Jake will be humble, chuffed and cheased
I have to be honest, Jake is the only host for me
There he is again, Jake Hurwitz
I'm not saying I'm gay, but
All right, that's quite enough, actually
You let him go for a long time just dragging you
I mean, it was tough, but it was fair
It was mean, but it was accurate
So how much can you really blame him?
How hurt can you be when someone only spoke the truth to you?
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, more now because you said that
But yeah, it hurts more when it's the truth
Does it hurt more than when it's the truth?
I mean, you're pretty stuck in your ways, but
No, change what?
He was attacking my man
He was attacking my person
Shit that I can't change
You're chipmunk, human
Who I am
Who I chipmunk
Yeah, my DNA
Yeah, your DNA
My sense of humor
Your little animal DNA
Yeah
You're a little critter
He also talked about doing anal with you, if necessary
Which I found to be a little blue
Off-color, off-coose
That came out of left field, but I think it was still a hit
I mean, what do we expect?
We've been fucking peddling smut for a decade and a half
And suddenly somebody talks about anal to us in a song
Like we have no moral high ground
We have no leg to stand on
We have to take that in stride, buddy
We have to just accept that for the norm
That is status quo
Or status blow for us
That's the golden mic for me
With status blow
I wasn't gonna give it to myself
But then you weren't gonna give me shit
So I had to bring it
On the way
Status quo
Status quo for it being blue
So I made it blue
And I said status blow
Yeah
It's a pretty fucking good pun
And it was apropo
Or apro blow, if I might say
That's why I get the golden mic
That's why I earn that shit
Do you want to start the episode?
I'll make a quick acceptance speech
Thank you
Honestly, I'm floored
Who are you talking to?
We're minute four
And I fucking just won an award
I'm floored by the award
I know I am honored
She's humbled Chuck
Say the joke
Say the joke that won it
Status blow
Yeah
Yeah
Status blow
And also apropo blow
Like really cemented me as the goat
In that moment
But I am humbled
And I thank you
For what I believe is
Actually could be my five hundredth
Golden mic
Wow
What?
What are you saying?
It means everything
It means nothing
It means nothing
You mean
Sorry
You mean nothing
And you get nothing
You lose
The singer
The Bo Burnham parody
You know that funny feeling
I love that song
I mean that's the one that I
I think that's maybe the one or two
That I've listened to from his album
But I loved it so much
I am still listening to that special
At first I watched
I'm like that was pretty good
But now I'm on Spotify
I'm still listening to these songs
That's how good it is
I mean that song slaps
I really love it
It's moving
The melody is incredible
That is by Matthew Lucente
Lucente
L-U-C-E-N-T-E
Who actually
This is the second theme song submitted
The first one was the
Every Rose Has Its Thorn parody
Nice
So he's sort of
Into the melodramatic
Bitter sweet
Tunes
Both Every Rose Has Its Thorn
And that funny feeling
Cool, yeah
I like it
So thank you Matthew
This is if I were you
The only advice pod on the web
Hosted by me and him
I'm Amir
I'm liquid nice
I should say if Jake sounds
Echoey it's because he's recording
From a cavernous room
We've learned nothing in the last
89 years
I've regressed
Do I sound echoey to you?
You do but
I'm not hearing your microphone audio
I'm hearing your zoom audio
From your computer
So hopefully the microphone
Eliminates some of the echo
I'm really hoping it does
But yeah I just moved into a new place
And the ceilings are a little too tall
For podcasting
Those are 40 foot cathedral style ceilings
I moved into a silo actually
Yeah
A giant tube
A cylinder
Right so there's hay
And there's grain in the silo
And there's milk
And the important thing is
And you're there with a cow
And the grain and a silver grain
Little boy blue and the man
And the milk
Kind of a wasted joke there
Since Matthew called me out
And you got an award for it
So regardless of how I do going forward
It doesn't seem different at all
Little boy blue and the man
And the milk
You think that's better than apro blow
Or status blow
Sure
I know you don't think so
I obviously think that you don't think so
I guess I should say let's open
I can't wait to do a live show
So we can fucking open it up
And actually declare a golden mic
And a turdy
Like letting the democracy decide
I feel like that's happened
But yeah I guess
No way
I would I welcome the challenge
Well it wouldn't really be a challenge
I welcome the opportunity
I welcome that mic that I will earn
By the adoration of my comrades
And I appreciate in advance
I'm actually already cheese honored
Humble
You can't be
I'm chuffed
I am chuffed and I'm humble
And I'm cheese
You can't be pre-cheesed
You haven't even become cheesed yet
I've pre-seized the pre-cheese
Speaking of pre-seizing
Some pre-cheasing
This guy has a question about his girlfriend
Who was sort of pre-cheating
Ooh pre-cheating
Very
Yeah or preating for short
Nice
We'll call him
Uh preed
Preeter
Preeter
What's a famous Peter
Uh preeter Gallagher
There's pre- Uh brahara
Okay
Preat
Brahara
Mhmm
Right
I'm a 24 year old from Toronto
And my girlfriend and I have been together
For about a year and a half
At the eight month mark
I broke up with her
Because of some mental and family issues
I was dealing with
And we were split for about three months
But towards the end of the three months
We got back together
Now during those months apart
As I was dealing with my issues
She was living her single life
And slept with someone else
Now that we're back together
I'm bothered by this
When I brought it up to her
She dismissed it as not a big deal
Since we are back together
Everything is going great so far
I feel like I should know about
Who that was
Mhmm
Am I wrong for letting it affect me
Or is she taking this too lightly
Should I sweep it under the rug
Because it was in the past?
Side note
Big fan of the testing, testing
Thursday episodes
And I think it would be a fun idea
To have Amir take the Helix test
And see if he can get close
To Jake's perfect score
Highly unlikely considering
Jake was perfect
But let's see if he can get close
Very interesting
Yeah we'll see if you can pass
Muster on the old Helix test
The Helix test which is basically
Just asking you how you sleep
That you constantly say that you ace
Save it for the ad
Save it for the ad
Alright
This is the main show
This is the show right now
Okay
I was just saying that it's not that
Hard to ace a test
Where they're asking you
If you sleep on your side or what
Or stomach
Or back
Yes
So it's not like
Regardless of the options
Yes or no
It's not true or false
There's multiple choice
And it's also do you sleep hot
Or cold
Or neither
There's shit like that
There's shit like they try to trip you up
By being like neither
Like does not apply or whatever
They do not try to trip you up
How about this
Do you wake up with back pain?
That's another fine normal question
You can't get it wrong
Can I get it wrong?
No
Alright
No
You can get it wrong
And I ace it
Nice
Anyway
Does this guy deserve to know
What happened during the
We were on a break
I think
There's a lot of layers here
The last question he asked was
Was he wrong for feeling the way he does
Which he is not
I can understand
That there's this little thing
That's getting at you
And it's a big thing in your mind
And it's a small thing in her mind
And that almost makes it worse
But
This guy should also re-read
Part of the email where he said
Things are going great
It's like you've been through
The bad shit
You broke up so you could deal with your shit
You did
You're back together
And it's great
And that's really all that needs to be
Considered
You
Figured your shit out
And got the girl that you like
Back
And hooray
The future's bright
Do not focus on something
That was out of your control
And also
Was perfectly fine, dandy
And illegal
In the court of law
And the public opinion
I think that
You know
Obviously
You break up with someone
They're single
They can sleep with somebody
That's a-okay
And you
Sorry
To be perfectly candid
You aren't owed an explanation at all
So
So I think yeah
You just have to accept this for what it is
Which is actually good
And be fine
Yeah
It seems like the other option is to demand to know
And whenever you're demanding something
It's not a good look
Right
Because what happens
If you demand to know
You get your way
Your girlfriend is upset
That you wouldn't let this thing go
She tells you the name of the guy
And it's gonna be bad
You're not gonna find out the guy
And be like
Alright
Cool
Glad I know
It's like no
Alright
Well I'm already picturing
You getting railed by somebody
But now he has a face
And it could be worse
Like it might be a stranger
Best case scenario
She tells you
A guy's name that you've never heard of
You don't know the person
The end we move on
But you'll always
For the rest of your life
Like hate the name
Dylan
Cause that's the guy's name
You know
Yeah
Or worse than that
It could be someone you know
It's like
Someone that's in your circle
And then that's gonna be really annoying
I mean it almost sounds like
And I don't even want to accuse anything
But it kinda sounds like it's you
It wasn't me
Jagged style
Cause you're like
You're like really nervous
At the thought of her
Fessing up to something
Like I've never seen you this on edge before
Like he can ask
And he can know the name
It wasn't me
Like he
It was nice
Yeah
But like what if it was you
Like that would
It wasn't me
That would
Yeah
He just replied
He just found out it was Jake
Jake Hurwitz specifically
It wasn't me
Nice
Shaggy
That's what the song's about
You just deny, deny, deny
No matter what
Remember the
Super Bowl commercial where
Was it Ashton Kutcher
Who kept catching Mila Kunis
Eating Doritos
And she kept saying
It wasn't me
It wasn't me
And then Shaggy was in it at the end
No
They really do such dumb shit
For the Super Bowl
That made me buy a bag
Of cool ranch
Cut
You know it's funny
How important is that?
Do they need to
I feel like at this point
We all know cool ranch is good
And I just know that it's bad for me
So I avoid it as much as I can
But sometimes if I'm hungover
I'm like fuck it
I'll eat Doritos
Yeah
I think they were trying to
Reach people that were saying
Fuck it
I'll eat Doritos
I guess that's it
But like they should just
I don't know
They should just show you
A close up of the Doritos
I don't need to see
Yeah they do
So it's like
Mila Kunis is eating the Dorito
And you can see like the chip
And she has cheese
All over her fucking mouth
And fingers
That's not appealing
It wasn't her
They should like fucking
Just show a BLT
And then a side of the chips
And nothing else
You think you could come up
With a better Dorito campaign
Than the Mila Kunis
Ashton Kutcher
I think I did
Okay so you have 30 seconds
What happens in this commercial
Let's add
What's the perfect addition
To a BLT
It's actually a D
BLDT
If you're
D
This is you what
Talking over
Over fucking
Inserts of a sandwich
It's fucking
Slow sweeping
Push-ins
Of a BLT
Crispy bacon
Fucking whatever else is on it
Lettuce and tomato
I'm getting nervous
Because I'm your fucking
I feel like you're already
About to pass
And I'm like
My time's not even up
But you're like making me
The fucking energy
That you're bringing
To this pitch
Is like no
I mean I don't have to
I'm not an actual Dorito buyer
But yeah
There's no way
They would listen to you
This is a slow
This is a confident person
Fucking Dolly in
Of the BLT
Okay
And there's mayo
There's mayonnaise on it
So far you haven't said
A soda
Once
Let me finish
There's a soda
Hey buddy I think
I think you should get up
And I think you should leave the room
I'm gonna faint
I'm fainting
I'm fainting
We're gonna go
We're gonna go at the
Kuchakuna's shaggy spot
I think
Because you're starting
To really freak us out
And that was pitched
By Shaggy on the day
That's right
And he had the confidence
Not like you
Who's fucking freaking out
Can't remember the
Ingredients of a BLT
Pass the bacon
He had the confidence
And a bad idea
But I have
I'm insecure
But I have a great idea
That's the difference
Between me and Shaggy
Yeah
And it's just chips
And honestly yours would be
Cheaper because they probably
Spent a lot of money paying
For Ashton Kutcher
To endorse something
Right
Yeah for this they would only
Have to pay for like
Bacon and lettuce
And one
I think you'd have to
Get a couple of this
Cause like you know
Shoot days are long
And the tomato
Might get soggy
The lettuce could get wilted
But it's probably just
One loaf
Three tomatoes
Two packs of bacon
Three tomatoes
A head of lettuce
Yeah cause you want to
Make this into ingredients
In a while
One jar of Hellman's
You can't have a different brand
You can get it
Well you wouldn't see
The Hellman's jar
It would be a skew
And it would be
You know when you're
You're filming they would
Know
I don't know anything
Stop fucking talking to me
You don't know anything
It's the first fucking
Honest thing you said in the podcast
Thank you
Let's go to break
Alright fine real quick
But do you ever make bacon
Yeah I do a lot
At home you fry it up
Yeah I have a couple different
Methods depending on
Where I am
You'll buy raw bacon
From a store
And then
I think I might
Yeah I make bacon
I make bacon a lot
Do
The frying pan
That's the
Kind of the standard
But my parents
Have an electric stove
And it's kind of shitty
So when I'm at their house
I do either a sheet pan
Bacon
In the oven
Or
You can microwave
You just nuke it
You know
Nuke the raw pork
Yeah it actually
It heats it up
It cooks it
It comes out pretty well
In the microwave
Not gonna lie
Cause the pan it's really nice
It's really crispy
But it condenses a lot
You lose a lot of that
It shrinks
Yeah it shrinks
Yeah
And it's a lot of clean up
It's not that fun
As a Jew
I eat bacon
When I'm out
If it's on stuff
But I never
I still haven't gotten
Of buying and making bacon
Remember
That's interesting
Yeah
It's still in me
Like does Jill buy bacon
No
Jill I mean
Jill doesn't even
Eat bacon
Yeah
That's fair
She like
Yeah no
And she grew up
When
In her house
I think her house was kosher
Like her parents
Don't keep it anymore
But she
Just has no appetite
For it
What about meat
Milk and meat
She's
Doesn't do it
On turkey
Sometimes
Very infrequently
She'll just eat red meat
She doesn't really
Eat that much meat
But
She'll eat like a burger
But not with cheese
Interesting
I was
I noticed earlier
This year that
Salami
The salami I used to have
Growing up was just pork
Like
My family was like
We're not eating bacon
But like salami is fine
But I'm like
Alright so it's a different shape
And name
Yeah
People don't think of salami
As bacon
Which is
It just is
It's just the same thing
But it has a nicer word
Of it as beef
Yeah
I just always assumed
It was fine
Like some sort of turkey
Beef hybrid
But no
It's pork
Just like bacon
So like I would just
Eat salami as well
I wonder if Jill also
Ate salami
Or if they
They knew better
I think
No I think they were like
When she was a kid
They were like
True kosher
Like two sets of
Silver
Oh wow
Oh that's legit
Yeah
That's really
So I don't think
They accidentally
Ate salami
Like in two refrigerators
And then also have this
And one
Spola salami
Yeah
Like we would need ham
But I would get pepperoni
And just not look it up
Yeah
I think that's
That's kind of where
That's where they are now
Yeah
Like sort of
Blind themselves
To the ingredient list
Although you kind of
Sneak
You do some nefarious shit
Like putting bacon
In her shit
When she's not looking
Like that's
That's that messed up shit
Yeah
And then she's like
Oh yeah I keep kosher
Do you
Or did you eat bacon yesterday
She's like
That was vegan
I thought that you said
That was seitan
Yeah
Like well I cooked it
In the same pan as I cooked
My bacon
Didn't I
And there's a bacon grease
And also a piece of bacon
With seitan
Cause you said it was good
Didn't you
And I'm a little
Seitan
Nice
Hey ol seitan
No
But what you're doing
Is kind of
It's really fucked up
It's fucked up
Let's take a
Let's take that break
But I do want to talk to you
But you can't like
Off mic
Off mic
Off mic
It's just really messed up
For you to
For you to do that
We'll chat
Yeah
Let's hash that
But it's getting to the point
We're gonna hash it out
I know
But I feel like
It's weighing on me
I have to tell her
We'll talk through it
We'll talk
It's not your secret to tell
But we'll talk through it
I will
I already texted her
But yeah
Let's talk about it during the break
Let's take a break
And we'll come back
That wasn't your thing
That was not your place
It was not your place to do that
I just felt like
If I
It wasn't your search
It wasn't
Exactly
Alright
Let's talk about it
After the break
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Jake do you have any
Oh it's a lift
To the fire
I think we both do
We both like
It's infrequent
That we love the same TV show
It happened with succession
And now it's happened with
White Lotus
We love the Lotus
It's funny because it's sort of like
It's like they're cousins
Of the same show
So it's like rich white people
In New York
And they're like
They're like
They're like
They're like
They're like
They're like
They're like
They're like
So it's like
Rich white people in New York
And then
White Lotus is like
Rich white people in Hawaii
Yeah
It looks
It seems like the people
From succession
Would be the
Vacationing at White Lotus
Like
Exactly
It's
They take the yacht
It's just Roman
Like that guy
The couple
It's Roman
Shane
Yeah
Shane is Roman
On vacation
They're in the same frat
In the same universe
Yeah
Definitely
Shane�就是
Shane is visiting
His cousin Roman
That would be so cool
Brothers with cousin Greg
Yeah
I mean they're both HBO
Yeah
TJiF used to do it all the time
Why not
IRCL
Yeah
Stand
Why'd they hand it out
Hey, diferente
Thatר Έ fosse
Did you watch it live as it was happening or did you wait and then binge it?
I think I watched, I think I maybe binged two or three episodes and then I was watching week to week.
Yeah. And did you like it instantly or is it like a slow build?
I did not love the first episode.
After the first episode, I was like, I feel like I'm not going to, I like told Jill she could watch it without me.
Like while I was recording or something.
Wow. But I love the first episode.
Yeah, I think it was just not what I needed that week.
Like I was because it's the point that the characters are so hateable.
And you eventually grow to appreciate them for like their eccentricities that are also fucked up.
But like, yeah, at first, I was just like, I can't like watch these people that I hate.
But then by the end, I liked it.
Did you know that Mike White, the creator of it, wrote it himself in like two months?
No, no, I did not.
So there's this LA Times article about how the show was made and Mike White had a show on HBO.
Enlightened, was it?
That's a place in Hawaii like 10 years ago.
And they're like, you know, we can't really shoot anything.
HBO said he's like, but if you just write something that we could shoot at the Maui four seasons,
we could probably like shoot it in a few months.
And he's like, all right, I'll see what I can do.
And then started writing last year in August, like basically around now.
And then by October, they were shooting it.
So like he said, they were basically shooting his rough drafts of scripts.
That's not just insane, because the story feels so like perfect and tied up in multiple story lines.
It seems like an entire writers room of 12 highly trained writers were working on it
for a year and a half to make it all work.
But now it was like one guy like one of those police boards with all of the strings everywhere.
That's nuts.
I can't it seems like he had to have had this in his mind before August.
There's no way he's like, all right, what do I got?
Hawaii? Well, I'll figure it out from there.
And then two months later, they were shooting.
Man, that's crazy.
Great show, great characters, great actors, including the main Australian concierge, Armand.
Yeah, that's so he's fucking he's a beautiful man.
Did it make you want to bring the mustache back?
Kind of.
I mean, I appreciated him like Christoph Walton, like Inglorious Bastards,
where it's like, who is this guy?
Where did it? Where did he come from?
How is he so good?
And he's like 50 years old and I've never even heard of him.
And now I just like want to watch him do anything in any movie.
Yeah. And we should watch another movie of his.
He's an Australian guy, love and awesome.
Yeah, that's what it is.
He was famous in Australia and he was even in some shows over here.
But for whatever reason, they weren't as much of a runaway hit.
Now I feel like he's going to be in everything.
Yeah, I could definitely see that.
He was a breakout star.
Yeah, he looks like a slender Tom Hanks, Tom Selleck or something or like.
Oh, yeah.
Only with piercing blue eyes, like fucking what's his name that really?
Oh, Paul Newman or something. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, just a handsome guy.
And the show itself was so funny and it even reminded us a little bit of like
lonely and horny level, awkwardness, cringiness of like the newly married couple
who like clearly shouldn't be together at all.
God, yeah, that dude is he is very ruby, JD.
Yes, just like constantly wanting to get the better room, the upgrade.
And yeah, completely oblivious to how sad his new new wife is.
See, that's the kind I feel like that's the kind of show
that we should be trying to come up with in pitching and writing.
It's like we we love these.
We love fucking assholes.
Yeah, but the hard part is all the other stuff around him.
Like it can't just be a show about him.
It has to be like there's the two college girls and the entire family.
And every time we write some middle aged woman, we are good at coming up
with your character and my character and everyone else is impossible.
And Mike White sits down and farts out 13
instantly relatable, highly entertaining, different characters
that are all just like awesome to watch.
God damn, he's good.
So let us be that 10,000th person to tell you to watch White Lotus
if you haven't already. It's good. Yeah.
You know what other show I'm hearing as much buzz as now as I heard about White Lotus?
Yeah.
I haven't seen any of it yet is Reservation Dogs.
Oh, interesting.
I just saw a poster for that today.
I would check it out.
I need something for your next show.
All right. Need something.
And you and I should watch together.
We should watch things together, you know.
Maybe I'm like in FaceTime.
I mean, hang out. You talk.
You laugh to go away. OK.
I don't want to watch it with you all.
We can watch it separately.
So just say you're a bit later.
Say it's not.
It's not a busy thing.
Just say like maybe and then we don't follow up.
Don't say like I don't want to watch it with you.
Is that just a time it over FaceTime?
It seems like it's unnecessary.
I don't need to like see you in the corner.
So just be like, yeah, maybe.
And then we'll talk about it later and then we don't ever do it.
But no, because you'll bring it up.
God, salt me. Yeah, I'll bring it up.
I'll ask if you want to do it.
You say maybe later this week.
And then it doesn't happen.
But my feelings are intact.
It's fine for you.
Maybe a little annoying because I keep asking.
But it's not a big deal.
You want me to lie to you?
Ideally.
All right, fine.
As long as you literally never bring it up
and don't make it feel like it's going to happen.
And then make me feel even worse about it later.
OK.
I'm busy.
But let's try to find a time to watch something,
a show over FaceTime.
You promise?
See, I can already feel.
I already regret saying that much.
So no, I do not promise.
When do you want to do it?
I'm telling you, I don't want to do it.
I don't think I can.
You said you could do it this week.
Oh, my God.
You said I'll do it soon.
Let's do it fucking at the end of September.
Swear to God?
I don't swear to God.
I don't promise.
I don't even want to do it.
I'm only saying this because you said for me to.
You're like fucking feeding me a script.
I'll check in tomorrow and I'll send you
a calendar invite for September 29th.
We'll get the date farmed up and we'll figure it out.
But I'll pencil you in for the 29th now.
Yeah, I might watch the show beforehand.
Imagine I bail on you.
Watch.
It's finally here and you can't make it.
This is such bullshit.
You're watching with Marty over his Skype.
All right, we got an email from a guy who's 23,
six foot three, and has been a fan of us since the age of three.
Damn, well, 23.
Sorry, the age of 13, yeah.
That's Mark Hoppus.
No one likes you when you're 23.
Nice.
Thank you.
Mark Hoppus writes, yes, I've been a fan since I was in seventh grade
and now I'm a whopping 23.
Thanks for all the laughs over the years,
but let's get into it.
I'm a pretty average looking dude.
I'm six foot three, but with a pretty bad hairline.
So hopefully those two things cancel each other out.
I've never had a real girlfriend,
but I have decided that I'm ready and it's time.
I've recently been on hinge,
and I like to think I'm generally pretty clever
and decent at talking to people,
but I haven't had an overwhelming success in the past,
but it's not terrible either.
Unfortunately, I've had some missed opportunities lately
and I can't get out of my own head.
Now I'm constantly self-sabotaging
because I psych myself out and lose all my natural charm,
reverting to the herb that nobody in their right mind
would want to be a part of.
I know I need to just move on and be confident,
but I can't seem to do it.
Have you guys ever moved on
from a string of swings and misses in the past?
How will I get out of this rut?
How do I become a Kobe Bryant of myself
and just focus on the next shot?
Thanks guys.
Love the show and congrats on 500.
All right.
Gracias.
Home, home, home, home.
What do you think?
Well, I think you could focus on being 6'3,
which might be the goat height.
Like he's sort of like dismissing the fact
that he's 6'3, which is like,
as even if you're ugly in 6'3,
that's like a pretty hot guy right there, 6'3.
Yeah, 6'3, that's a good profile.
There's a lot of hot guys that are shorter than that
that would trade some weeks for the height.
So you can focus on the things that you got going for you.
Would you rather look like a 5'5 inch Tom Cruise
or like a 6'3 inch Josh Hartnett?
What?
Josh Hartnett is fucking hot.
I think he's hot because he's tall.
Like if Hartnett was 5'5, I don't think he would look
like a little fattie.
Tom Cruise is like 60.
Now I don't want to look like Tom Cruise.
All right, a young Tom Cruise.
A risky business.
How young?
26?
Let's say a vanilla sky Tom Cruise.
Then I'd rather look like Tom Cruise.
I think I'd rather look like Tom Cruise.
Okay, and five foot, what, five?
I don't think he's.
You'd rather look like a 5'5 inch.
No, he's not, but I'm saying would you rather look
like a 5'5 Tom Cruise or like a 6'3,
let's say Adam Driver.
Interesting.
Because I thought Hartnett was hot.
I guess I'm just talking about guys
who are like sort of unconventionally handsome
but are made much more so by their height.
Yeah, because Driver has a pretty sick body,
really nice shoulders on him.
Yeah, and it's just like, it's cool to be 6'3
is what I'm trying to get at here.
Yeah, no, okay, you're right.
Okay, I think I'd choose 6'3.
So this guy is 6'3.
That's a great starting point.
But there's no reason to give short people
that are listening a complex
because we're trying to build up this guy for the height.
Because I feel like we're talking,
fuck anybody under 6'3, dude.
We're talking about confidence.
We're talking about confidence, not height.
And where do you drive?
How tall do you think I can be?
You're telling people that I am.
You are a chipmunk.
You're three and a half inches tall, morally.
You get that?
You're nothing.
You're no one.
You're a woodland creature.
You're an ass.
You are prey for a fucking bird.
That's what you are.
Wow, that hurt to hear actually
because I didn't realize that was 0.3.5, 0.3.
That's a hard height to have.
Yeah.
Yeah, at least give me one foot two.
Because I have one foot, two foot, three foot drop.
What?
It's like the song from Beatlejuice.
No, I know.
Okay.
Anyway.
Advice.
This guy.
Yeah.
You sort of buzz your head and grow your beard.
You're six foot three.
You're charming on the app.
You're killing it in so many ways.
You've got to look for a new start, a fresh beginning.
It just takes one.
Shooters just need to see the ball go in once.
Maybe try to get to the free throw line, get a layup.
That's good, that's good.
And I think the other thing to remember,
just hold this in your heart,
is that you don't need to be perfect.
You barely even need to be good.
On the dating apps, they're full of so much garbage.
You just have to be nice and normal.
The baseline, like the bar is set very, very low.
That most guys, if you're normal, can step over it.
And it sounds like this guy just doesn't have,
you know, you are charming,
but maybe it takes a little bit to warm up.
So you don't have to worry about like
nailing it on the first try.
Just worry about not being a shitbag, be nice.
And that's it.
If you're nice, you'll be ahead of the competition.
And also know that most people that are on these dating apps,
just like you, they're seeing hundreds of people,
hundreds of faces fly by.
So you're being harder on yourself,
staring in the mirror every single day,
psyching yourself down before you go out.
Like nobody else is looking at you
with that critical up an eye.
How many dick inches would you sacrifice
to get that on your height?
I'm serious.
I would have a two inch cock
if it meant I have an extra four on top.
And I do mean cutting and pasting.
So I look like a fucking flesh unicorn.
That's what I'm talking about.
A fucking empire cock building.
I want a cone head.
Where the cone is actually my D
and my D is actually a toe.
Right, see, Amir is the kind of guy
you're competing with on the app.
So you're-
And did I mention I'm five foot none?
And I look like Tom.
Too long.
Yeah, I guess what Jake said is better.
I mean, listen, you got a lot of great stuff going on.
There's so many people on there,
plenty of fish in the sea.
You're doing a great job.
Your email is very competent and coherent.
And yeah, like Jake said, most people are not good.
So the bar is low.
We haven't even used this as an opportunity
to promote Orion, which is our dating app.
So if you've been watching us in seventh grade
and you're 23 now and you're trying to date,
you should just download Orion.
Cause at the very least you'll have something in common
to talk to anyone that you meet on there.
Buy the buy.
Buy the buy.
That's right, datorion.com.
Somebody recently messaged me
cause you and I are on Orion.
We swipe, I swipe everybody right.
And I chat with people sometimes
and someone wrote to me, wait, let me see if I can find it.
She wrote that she flew last week to meet up
with someone that she met on Orion.
And they're like, official.
Yeah.
So we already have a relationship.
We have a relationship.
Completed, a proof of purchase, a joyous test.
It's from two weeks ago.
So hopefully it's still going strong.
Hell yeah.
If we could just create one wedding,
I feel like our work here is done.
Actually, in that message, I did promise
that you and I would officiate the wedding if it happens.
Well, I never agreed to that.
Where would it be?
Like where did she fly to?
She didn't tell me.
But it's...
What if it's in Florida?
Tests, cases are pretty insane there right now.
Florida's probably the one place I wouldn't go.
But yeah, anywhere else is on the table.
All right, good to know, let us know.
All right, let's take another break
and answer another question on the other side
of these words.
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Wow.
That's correct.
I mean, this might be the Goat Father's Day gift.
I think it actually is, yeah.
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Yeah, for me personally, these things are perfect.
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Holy smokes.
We got one for my parents.
So there are three of these bad boys
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Oh, that's cool.
So you take a photo of anything, perhaps a baby,
and then it goes to their digital photo frame.
This is actually how we told Jill's grandma
she was pregnant.
We got her the aura frame.
We plugged it in.
Jill's grandma was pregnant?
Really nice, asshole.
This was actually a really sweet moment for me and my wife.
And you're trying to make a joke of it.
I was just being goofy a little bit.
Like, this is how I told my grandma she was pregnant.
Yeah, kind of like she misheard it or something like that.
Or the way you said it was kind of like,
it could go either way.
By the way, Jill's grandma is pregnant.
Oh my God.
Jill's grandma is 90 and pregnant.
It's pretty cool.
And you told me with a digital photo frame?
Holy smokes.
And we let her know with an aura.
Yeah.
Thank you.
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Yeah, like your banana or your dog
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Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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All right, college is back in session.
We got a very modern college problem.
Good, good.
Yes.
This guy lives in Dallas, Texas.
We'll call him Luca Donchich
because he's about to start his second year at university.
Cool.
Luca writes, I'm in Dallas and I'm starting my second year
at university and the campus is entirely open
for in-person learning,
which you'd think would be great for meeting people,
but that hasn't been the case.
Our campus is still has a mask mandate
while inside buildings,
but some students are overtly proud
not to be wearing theirs.
Therein lies the dilemma.
The people who appear to be most outgoing
are the ones without masks.
So I'm not sure if those are the type of people
I want to be meeting.
And those who do wear a mask seem reserved and unapproachable.
So what should I do?
I live about 30 minutes from campus.
So it's not like I'm walking around
seeing people at the gym or in school events.
Also, I'm 27, which makes me feel
a least considerable amount older
than most of the students at these undergraduate classes.
Any advice for meeting new friends
would be greatly appreciated.
Jake, congrats on your insane golden mic streak.
Thank you.
I'm pulling for you.
I have to take it away from Amir's
ungrateful, greedy chipmunk hands.
Toda, love Luka.
Damn.
That is a problem.
Mask is at college.
I never considered that.
But I guess, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, of course.
Are you masked up at grocery stores and stuff still?
Yeah.
There was that brief window when they,
like grocery stores in the city seem like they always had it.
But the coffee shops and the restaurants,
the masks went away.
And there was a couple days when my gym also
wasn't having a mask that I just didn't have a mask in my pocket.
And it was kind of beautiful.
Yeah.
Late June when you're like, I guess this is,
I guess this is goodbye, old pal.
You threw it out the window.
Four days later, everyone asked to wear a mask.
Yeah.
No, I hung it into it.
But yeah, now it's back, you know,
where I'm in the stores and stuff.
Although in Texas, my brother was just in Texas
and it's like, nobody wears a mask.
Like even at like restaurants, shopping malls, indoor stores,
they said goodbye and they never got it back.
So it's interesting that this university is still hanging on to the mask mandate.
Interesting.
Yeah, I mean, I guess it just depends where it is.
I mean, it's their private.
So they can kind of do whatever they want, right?
Yeah.
I mean, it's smart too.
And I'm glad that it's legal too, because in some places
they're trying to make it illegal to ask people to wear masks,
which seems not ideal.
Yeah, it's it's all such a fucking mess.
Why do we turn everything into this?
Like because we have to be right and they have to be wrong.
Yeah.
So imagine college plus masks.
That seems like an extra layer of kind of annoying.
But I guess if you're just listening to a professor,
the professor also has to wear a mask.
That's their problem.
That's not ideal either.
I mean, yeah, we everybody just knows so intimately their COVID experience
because we've all just been kind of doing the exact same thing
in this bubble for a really long time.
But like, Jesus, yeah.
Do you think Pence college professors do?
Pence have a mask like pens?
Like if you're writing, taking notes, you have to put like a little
like Pence has to wear a mask or is he like a little ink pen
where he doesn't necessarily ask Mike's pen.
I want to know if Mike Pence wore a mask to Trader Joe's last week.
In Martha's Vineyard.
I mean, I guess what I would do is probably like I follow the rules with the mask.
I hate it.
I don't like wearing it, but I don't feel normal breaking the rules.
Yeah.
And it's and it's the right thing to do.
But really mostly for me, it's about the rules.
You need the rules to follow them.
Otherwise, your rule breaker, which means you're kind of a not good person.
And the science behind masks means they work.
This guy is still down to wear a mask.
He just doesn't know how to make friends while wearing a mask because like,
you know, half the fun of college is leaning over and whispering something.
And when you're leaning over and whispering in a mask to somebody who's not wearing a mask,
they're like, what? I can't hear you.
I mean, I feel weird taking it off.
You've got to just spend more time on campus and outdoor settings, outdoor settings.
Like you live 30 minutes from campus, but that if anything,
maybe that gives you some reason to like hang out more in between your classes
or like show up early, stay a little later, try to meet people around there.
Yeah.
Any kind of setting where it feels like you, you know, it's easier to meet people.
Also, I think like just joining clubs, groups and it might be good,
the mask mandate thing, because usually like you talk to someone,
you get to know them and then like three weeks in, they're like, by the way,
I'm fucking anti-science and it comes up organically.
Now it's like, if you know, somebody's fucking kind of a little bit crazy
and doesn't believe in shit, if they're already not wearing a mask.
So it's like, OK, I can eliminate hanging out with these people
and I'll just hang out with the people that are like minded.
Likewise, people without masks don't want to hang out with us masked folks
because, you know, what are we doing?
What do we think we're trying to like help people out
and try to eliminate the disease or whatever?
I don't want to hang out with there.
I want to go fucking go bar hopping and I don't have to wear and diaper on my face.
I'm actually being considering switching sides a little bit, just to see how it feels.
Because you want to go into this protest.
I want to go protesting.
I can't imagine.
So I'll go to a nurse, like some of the other side that it's not even just like,
no, I don't give a shit.
I'm going to bars to go to go into like, no, no, no, I want I'm an activist
for the dumb side.
That's all go to a hospital and yell at yell at nurses
who have to wear a mask into at their at their hospital.
They really have to work.
That's what I need to do.
Yeah, that's what I'm looking forward to.
I also think it takes a long time to make friends at college.
Like sometimes it takes a long time to make friends anywhere.
You just have to be patient and it's not easy, but you just have to have that
persistence and people are reserved.
You can talk to them first and maybe they'll open up.
Yeah, good luck.
Oh, college plus COVID.
Not fun.
What an amazing, what an amazing time.
Freshman last year, sophomore this year.
There it is.
Half of it straight up gone and spoiler alert that next year ain't going to be better.
I want to get better.
No, it's going to get worse.
And then you'll graduate.
And so that little glorious period of your life giving advice.
You've stopped giving advice.
It's not helpful.
It's not like an oyster
shocked from your fucking subconscious now hurtful.
Oh, it's gone and it tastes good.
So that's yeah, good luck, I guess.
I hope you put some cocktails on that.
That's when you sort of try to squeeze the joy out of a terrible situation.
I'd like to talk to someone who's in college right now
and see how they're doing.
Maybe they just don't give a shit.
I see videos on Twitter all the time, if people fucking partying down.
I really think it's just like just like everything else.
It depends where you're at college.
It depends what city, it depends what state, it depends what your job is.
Yeah, which is everything.
Everyone's experience has been so different.
Again, that's why I move into Tampa, baby.
Mm hmm.
Tampa, Champa Bay.
We got the lightning.
We got the Bucks.
We got Tom Brady, AKA the goat.
And you have a fucking mask on.
I don't think so.
Not my life.
Really, really, I can't afford it right now.
It's another good opportunity to tell
people to watch the new Jake and Amir mask episode.
That's right, vaccinated on our YouTube, Jake and Amir vaccinated.
We're two ups deep into our comeback.
So check that out.
One more to go.
Yeah, then we really have to start shooting more.
We got to get more in the can, more in the bank.
That's right.
OK, that's it.
Thanks for listening.
Thanks for submitting your questions.
You can email everything to if I were you show at gmail.com.
That's right.
Opening theme song.
Oh, we only listed a half of it.
Let's listen to the other half now.
Matthew, it was that funny feeling parody called that funny feeling.
But it was about how Jake is good.
And I'm not right.
Matt Lucente, that's fine.
So thank you, Matt.
For more videos of us chatting, hooting, hollering live.
We have podcast videos.
We have Jake and Amir rewatches.
We got animated sketches on there.
Lot of lot of shit on our Patreon.
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Yes.
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Hell, yeah.
Self-started back back on our independent shit bootstrap and baby.
OK, we will see you on Thursday, probably.
Bye.
Peace.
Stunning 533 from Amir Shewell.
And even greater golden Mike Street from Jake The Pinch.
Amir is a chipmunk with a bushy tail.
And if I'm being honest, his humor is getting stale.
But there he is again, Jake Hurwitz.
I'm not saying I'm gay, but if he has to get in bed with him,
I'd let him fuck my butt.
While I'm here, I'll give Amir the tourney.
And while I'm at it, Jake gets the golden Mike.
No doubt Jake will be humble, chuffed and cheased.
I have to be honest, Jake is the only host for me.
There he is again, Jake Hurwitz.
I'm not saying I'm gay, but if he has to get in bed with him,
I'd let him fuck my butt.
Hey, what can I say? Jake is hot.
And Amir looks like he's not.
Hey, what can I say? Jake is hot.
And Amir looks like he eats Megaman.
Hey, what can I say? Jake is hot.
And Amir looks like he's not.
Hey, what can you say? Jake is hot.
And Amir looks like he eats Megaman.
That was a hit gum original.