If I Were You - 513: Gym Flirting (w/The Dumbbells!)

Episode Date: November 8, 2021

Friends and fellow Headgum podcasters Erin McGown and Ryan Stanger are in the zoom room discussing getting sliced, drinking ice, and near death experiences.See omny.fm/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a headgum original. There it is. That was it. Really good. Really good stuff. Ryan, Aaron, thoughts? I don't know. Are you guys, do you remember the Adams family? Is that in your wheelhouse? Oh, yes. Adams family is awesome. And that was a great theme song. That was awesome. You know, the trick with that kind of thing is making, if I were you, like the phrasing on that is tough and making it work. But I think that's a skilled, you know, like they talk about Sinatra being able to, you know, he had really good phrasing outside of whatever people think about his voice. He could kind of fit words and phrases in.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Interesting. Yeah, I think that was the really masterstroke was like making, if I were you, fit in that kind of, you know, whatever that, you know, whatever a smart music way to say that is. Yeah, instead of Adams family, it's if I were you. Yeah, that was tough. So basically this guy is actually in a band called Dear Lincoln who submitted some theme songs before. Yeah, I've always liked that band name. Good name. He's sort of the Frank Sinatra of if I were you show submissions. We were going to do a lounge show for him. He's a crooner.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Tuxedos and tattoos. He says, I know it seems like I took that sweet, sweet cash that you sent for the Hogan family theme song and retired, but that $10 ran out fast. So to reclaim my throne, here's the Adams family theme song, the only and only one week past where it would actually be timely to use. I don't know why the Adam Stanley would be. Oh, because of Halloween. Yeah. Yeah. You used it the week after. Well, he sent it the day after. So I'm sorry. The deadlines are tough, you know.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Yes. I don't want to wait another year. Isn't it out right now, like a new version of it? Yeah, I think there's a new sequel to their CG offering of the Adams family. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. So we might have missed Halloween, but it's still timely.
Starting point is 00:02:57 My band has been pretty silent as of late, but if you could promote my band, Dear Lincoln, it would be awesome. DearLincoln.com. So there you go. Thank you, Dear Lincoln. You did a great job. Is it D-E-E-R? What do you think? I want it to be Dear Lincoln. With the top hat on?
Starting point is 00:03:13 With the top hat on? I do want it. Like a little grassy meadow with the fucking top hat. Getting shot like Bambi slash Lincoln itself. Fucking John Wilkes shot Bambi's mom. Yeah, there we go. Whoa. Too soon.
Starting point is 00:03:31 It goes all the way to the top. Aaron and Ryan, thank you so much for joining us. From the Dumbbells podcast on this here, Headgum Network. Yeah. Correct. Yeah, thank you. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Big news over at the Dumbbells, over in the Dumbbells world. Are we breaking? Are we breaking news? Kind of. I mean. Breaking news. Like no one else has heard this news. This is hot, hot, hot information.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Okay. Okay. I'm ready. Yeah. So Aaron, whose voice you've been hearing is has taken the official co-hosting duties from former co-host and founder Eugene Cordero. And so, yeah, Aaron's stepped in. She's taken the reins.
Starting point is 00:04:10 And so we had like a little mini relaunch that's been probably a couple of weeks now when people have heard this. Eugene will pop back in and out when he's got time. But for people that know and follow Eugene, he's, he's, he's shooting the man. Yeah. The Mandalorian, the fucking, the Loki show. Yeah. It's got a lot of stuff going on.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Like two kids under four. So. Yeah. So you're not mad at Eugene. I was hoping there would be some sort of B for animosity that we can start. Just to drum up some controversy. Just like jealousy of his career. But that's.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Yeah. Okay. That's a good starting point. Yeah. Like it has to have an origin story. Yeah. But that's like across the board. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Everyone was jealous of him right now. So the trick was to find somebody with another E name. For ends. Yeah. That had done guest co-hosting in the past. So we're checking two boxes here. And then it's also talented and dynamic. Something that I don't have.
Starting point is 00:05:09 So I was like, I gotta, I gotta. It's time. It's time. One of the hosts was dynamic and talented. Might as well. So enter Aaron McGann. And yeah. So here we are.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Everybody's up to speed now. Everybody's caught. Very passing of the torch. Can't wait until what me or Jake is successful enough not to host this show. You think it'll have, because it's been like, what, eight, nine years at this point. I feel like it would have happened by now, right? Yeah. Well, the thing is that we phoned it in so hard that it would be kind of weird if one
Starting point is 00:05:37 of us left. Right. Because it's like how busy would we have to be to not fart out another 45 right every week. And we do. We do fart it out. I can't stress that enough. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:48 They've. Yeah. Okay. Good. I'm glad to hear that. Cause I'm, that's what I'm here for. I've got my fucking asshole up to the microphone and I am. It does sound like my voice that is weird, but a lot of wizardry in the sound department
Starting point is 00:06:02 over at head gum making this all kind of work somehow. Yeah. Yeah. And it's up to, it's up to your, your eyesight as well. You keep the microphone and the, and the camera really close together. Ryan is recording this whole thing. Jim Carrey style. And he does that when it's just us too.
Starting point is 00:06:20 So I'm glad you guys are here. He does that when he records the ads solo as well. Yeah. Yes. For sure. Let me ask you something about Squarespace. Reading talking points, facing away from the microphone. You don't need to do that.
Starting point is 00:06:35 You think people do that to tone Locke ever? I mean, he was the one that had to do. That's a good call. He's the one who saw the ass. Yeah. A lot of that kind of back and forth with that, that whole scene there. That's, but fortunately he's got two hit songs. So that runs a little interference.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Yeah. Funky Cole Medina. Something else. Sort of washed away that entire scene from him. So he doesn't have to think about it anymore. Actually, I rewatched that movie over quarantine. Problematic. You know, a little problematic, very silly.
Starting point is 00:07:08 So, very silly. So funny. I mean. Yeah. Jim Carrey is just a sort of a comedy genius. So that sticks around. I rewatched the mask. That's what I rewatched over quarantine and really goes off the rails,
Starting point is 00:07:22 which I guess that's a lot of movies, but I was like, I do not remember this. Like it just was insane. Yeah. And I mean, it was fun. I think it was still fun. Not, I don't think it was as problematic as I think. You're right.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Yeah. It was pet detective. Yeah. Some people call it Ace Ventura. Some people call it pet detective. But I've never heard of pet detective. I like to just call it pet detective. But you guys remember in the second one where he comes out of the butt.
Starting point is 00:07:53 I call that one when nature calls, but yeah, it's also. That shaped my childhood. Like I saw that in theaters and like I think about that every time I see a rhino. Yeah. It shaped your adulthood as well. Yeah. It's continuing on. That part's funny as hell.
Starting point is 00:08:13 He gets hot in there. So he has to take all his clothes off. So he's like nude coming out of it, right? Yeah. Like he's giving birth to a human. That's funny. We should just be talking about Jim Carrey movie. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:08:29 What's the one, the majestic, the one where he buys a movie theater for some reason? Oh, yeah. I think that's. Oh, I never saw that one. Yeah. Yeah. That was really problematic too. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:40 It doesn't stay. What is it called relevant? It doesn't add. What word am I thinking of? It doesn't hold up. It does. Hold it out. Hold it out of here.
Starting point is 00:08:50 It's hold up. It doesn't hold up. Wow. You couldn't think of the word hold up. It's actually two words. One of them is up. The other one is I already forget. What is that because of what's happened, you know, with theaters these days?
Starting point is 00:09:02 Yeah. Just the whole movie past thing. It was tacky. Yeah. That movie today would have just been Jim Carrey getting a Netflix account. And it would have been over in 38 seconds, I guess. Starting a streaming service that would again last 38 seconds. Consolidating six media companies.
Starting point is 00:09:21 You know, it's like, oh, I'm great. Yeah. Blowing through $2 billion of venture capital in a year and a half. I'm not afraid to call out the fucking big wigs on the show. You know what? A lot of people are like, you know, kowtowing around it, trying to like stay in place. No, fuck that. We have Bezos on next week.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Really? Yeah. You got Bezos coming on? Ask Bezos. Bezos is coming on. Yeah. Is he doing testosterone replacement therapy? Because that guy has transformed.
Starting point is 00:09:51 He's had a glow up. He's had a glow up. Yeah. He's looking yoke. Yeah. But he got, didn't he get divorced? Yeah. That's what it was.
Starting point is 00:09:59 That happens when you get divorced, right? You either get jacked or you get... He looked like... He could have gone either way. When he first came out, he looked like the fucking, the little old guy that they would do in the Simpsons, you know, that like little tiny old... Hans Molman. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Yeah. He looked like... And now he looks like Mr. Burns. Which is, you know, kind of a lateral, but at least he's taller. Yeah. It looks like Homer when Homer got jacked. That's cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:26 When he climbed the Matterhorn. Yeah. Okay, we got some real questions from real people. This first one is about diet. Okay. We need a fake name just to preserve this guy's anonymity. We can't out him. Otherwise, people are going to be coming up to him on the street saying, weren't you
Starting point is 00:10:43 that guy in that If I Were You episode? So, Stanger, do you have a fake name to refer to this person as, as we try to help him out of this moral dilemma? Tristan Ludlow. That's great. Tristan Ludlow. Wow. That's really cool, actually.
Starting point is 00:10:59 The name of an agent for sure. Yeah, that's a hot name, yeah. Nobody named Tristan Ludlow has ever had a problem, but I guess let's try to imagine. Dear JNA, I'm looking to get sliced. I go to the gym regularly, but diet seems to be a hurdle. I'm currently on the LeBron James diet, which is where you only eat meat, fish, veggies, and some fruit while abstaining from carbs, sugar, and dairy. I guess that's the LeBron James diet now.
Starting point is 00:11:27 That being said, do y'all have any other tips? Y'all seem to be in pretty good shape, and it'd be cool to nail some healthy habits down in my mid-20s. Good luck with the Patreon. Love, Tristan. Wow. Mid-20s. I didn't really think about diet in my mid-20s, but I guess it's starting earlier and earlier.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Yeah, that was a big reveal. Like, you're picturing somebody else and the guy's like, you know, I'm 21. Yeah, I'm looking to get sliced. I'm looking to get fucking sliced. How old were you guys when you realized that? Oh, carbs are actually contributing to maybe fat in my body. I remember that was like an aha moment in 2005 for me, where I'm like, I guess I shouldn't have bagels every morning.
Starting point is 00:12:11 That's actually putting on some pounds. Yeah, I had a, because I remember growing up, I had this teacher in high school named Mr. Berman, and he was an honors English teacher, and he was super cool and ripped, and he would eat plain bagels. And I remember thinking like, wow, this guy's such a health nut. He's eating a plain bagel, fat, no fat free. Yeah, fat and bread sort of flip flopped at a certain point in like the early aughts, where it was like, you can have as much fat as you want.
Starting point is 00:12:43 We should have told you that earlier. Yeah, and meanwhile, Berman is just a genetic freak, you know. A Billy Scoop Fury. Yeah, exactly. Do you guys know Billy? He just eats a pound of pasta a day and remains with 0% body fat. Oh, Scoop Fury, yeah, he's done the show before. Yeah, and he's crazy ripped.
Starting point is 00:13:01 He's like 1% body fat. It's unbelievable. Yeah, so you can't really dictate what you should do based on Billy's diet or Mr. Berman's diet. No, so for me, I was going to the movies with this girl I was seeing, and she was a little older than I was. And I was maybe just getting done with high school or something, or maybe summer before college. And so she was really fit.
Starting point is 00:13:25 I met her at the gym and she had a bunch of fit friends. And they're all like maybe two or three years older than I was. And I remember I got like a big icy and then like some skittles or something. And one of her friends like, aren't you worried about all the fat? And I was like, what? This is all fat free. So it's a cherry icy, you idiot. Did icy survive?
Starting point is 00:13:48 Are there still icies? I totally forgot about. Yes. I like the lid because you had and like you would have to fill like the lid, you know, like it had had a domed lid. And then you would, it was pumped with hair so you could like fill the fucking lid out. But anyway, she called me out and she was like, you know, sugar, what do you think happens to that sugar? And I remember when we were seeing like Armageddon,
Starting point is 00:14:10 like the whole time my fucking world was rocked. Like I could even focus on the movie. It's like the meteor hit you. Oh, truly. Yeah. Did they, did they create those straws, icies with the spoon at the end of the straw? Was that like a proprietary thing? Or did they, did they buy that from a third company?
Starting point is 00:14:28 I hope they made it themselves because that was a genius move. They did make it themselves. And actually they make more money licensing the strong than they ever, icies are free. Yeah. It's really all about the proprietary tech. That's a good tech talk, a tick tock that I'm going to post later. You know, you don't know this, but icy is a billion dollar industry because of the straw innovation. They actually lose money on the drink.
Starting point is 00:14:52 They got the patent in 1990. The Spoonie with two E's. The Spraw. It's a half spoon, half straw. Spraw E. Aaron, when did you get your carb world rocked? I don't know. I think, like I, I, when I like lost my big amount of weight, I, I think at some point
Starting point is 00:15:12 I like, I was doing, I did the subway diet. Wow. That's Jared style. Yeah. That's where you just eat a $5 foot long and look at child porn. Yeah. You crank it enough that you lose 4,000 calories a day. You go to prison where they give you three squares, low carb though.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Yeah. So that's exactly how I found out about carbs. Um, no, but I was doing that, like trying to eat those sandwiches and then, um, I think I like, they started some again, subway started doing like salads. And so that's kind of, I was like, Oh, interesting. I'll switch it over because I heard bread was bad, but I didn't know why. And so I did, it was around like my early twenties when I started like switching to less carbs, but now I eat carbs and I think carbs are, they get a bad rap.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Yeah. We're going back. We're going all the way back to carbs are now. You gotta go back. Carbs seem kind of fun. It's, I, to me, it's always sugar, sugar, sugar is bad. I don't like sugar, but our carbs sugar. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:18 But like, well, I guess what's the difference between carbs that like turn into sugar and just like straight up, they all, they all do. They all turn into sugar. I mean, so depending on what the source of the carbohydrate is, um, is basically how complex or intricate it is until it ultimately becomes sugar. So when you hear people talk about complex carbs, it's the least refined, least processed. So, you know, finding something in kind of like a vegetable form or in, you know, if we want to say like whole grain, like in a whole grain form.
Starting point is 00:16:50 So there's more fiber. There's more, you know, there's more stuff going on. And so it takes your body a little bit more work and time to break it down into glucose, which gets converted to glycogen, which either is used for movement or stored ultimately. Yeah. That's what I was going to say as well. So I'm glad that we have the exact same. Say that again.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Now that, so Jake's saying, cause Ryan just. Life coast breaks. Glisserine. Glisserine. Nice. Glisserine. Jake just gained 38 pounds while making that joke. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:23 So, I mean, if he's on the quote, LeBron James diet, which is like, I guess every diet is the same diet. It's just has different names. This is keto. This is caveman. It all seems like the same to me. Right. The rock.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Yeah. It's like, I want to know if he's doing the LeBron diet for real, how much he really needs to lose. That's what I want. It's tough because it's sliced, you know, it's, it's vague. What is that? Well, how much do you need to lose to get sliced? Being sliced to have to be like, you know, your zero percent body path.
Starting point is 00:17:57 That's sliced. It's sliced beyond shredded or it goes sliced then shredded. Slices. Slices seems to be beyond shredded to me. I feel like shredded gets tossed around a lot. I don't hear slice that much. But that's interesting though, because like just in terms of like food prep, shredded seems like it's got more, it's like thin, it's stringier sliced.
Starting point is 00:18:17 You could do that with like a ham. Slices. I want to be a thick sliced. I'm on the ham diet. I'm, you know, I don't want, I'm not going to be shredded because I still want to like enjoy my life every once in a while. Jake, you make, you make a great point and you've convinced me. So I retract what I said earlier and I, I mean, yeah, two abs.
Starting point is 00:18:36 You don't need six. Just two to four. Jake invented shredded bread. It's the greatest thing since sliced bread. So you just sort of finely coarsely chop a loaf. You just eat it like big league chew throughout the day. Put it through one of those paper shredders. Just like ram a fucking sourdough loaf in one of those suckers.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Like a meat grinder, but it's just dough on the other side. I guess that's spaghetti. Yeah. We invented spaghetti. Wow. We read. Yeah, we did. We're doing a lot for America and the world.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Yeah. Tristan doesn't sound, Tristan sounds like he's, he's on track. He doesn't need to get rid of carbs all the way. He just needs to be a little more, maybe just dial it in. I agree. I was going to say, I think that you could probably benefit from auditing your diet, Tristan and anybody that's maybe feels like they're doing a lot, but it's not working the way they want.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Just really screw down on what exactly you're doing. So you could, there's tons of like fitness apps that are free. My fitness pal app is one that gets referenced a lot that you can add to your phone. They're really easy. They're really intuitive. And that'll just give you a baseline. So you're like, okay, this is how, these are how I'm representing
Starting point is 00:19:52 my macronutrients. And this is how many calories I'm having every day. And this is probably how much I'm burning. And then you can just start to like make adjustments there. So I'll try like kind of, you know, scaling back the calories, a little tiny bit, or I'll try adding the calories or I'll take in more protein or whatever it is. And then you can be really systematic about it and see what
Starting point is 00:20:12 works and what doesn't, as opposed to just kind of like guessing, you know, I think otherwise you're just kind of taking shots in the dark. You don't have any control on your variables. And the other thing I was going to say about LeBron is I did, I did hear him on the Tim Ferriss podcast. Do you guys know who Tim Ferriss is? Oh yeah, I think I listened to that interview.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Yeah. Super, he's a dry motherfucker. I mean, he's as dry as it gets. And the podcast can be a little bit of a slog, but for a time he got interesting guests. And I heard LeBron on there and he was so excited to have him on and he's always like, he wants to know what people's secrets are and what books they read and how they sleep.
Starting point is 00:20:52 He's always trying to unlock the key to, you know, what it, what it is that makes them great. And so he had LeBron on and they had LeBron's trainer. I think it was when they were, they were kind of demoing ladder or whatever their supplement company is. And so he was like, what do you, what do you eat and what's the diet like? And LeBron obviously eats healthy and works super hard,
Starting point is 00:21:13 but he said, you know, I'll have chicken parm and then like a glass of wine, but I keep it in moderation. And Tim Ferriss just short circuited. Like he couldn't, he didn't like freak out on air, but you could hear it like in his mind. Just like you're eating chicken parm and a glass of wine. That's the key. He's that during halftime.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yeah. He could not get his fucking wrap his brain around that. What the fuck? Like he's like, you know, he's weighing his food. He's, you know, getting tea that he picks himself, you know, and like meanwhile, this guy's just an NBA star and like he's just a little chicken parm, a glass of wine, you know, I guess it helps that he's played 30,000 minutes of NBA
Starting point is 00:21:53 basketball. Yes. Yes. Have you done that? Have you done some high intensity workout every year since you were a fucking teenager? No. I work for four hours a week.
Starting point is 00:22:02 No. Well, that's something that people don't talk about. And I think people are talking about it more, right? Like more with social media and stuff and, and trying to be more body positive is that like, like if you're a personal trainer, you're working out like for so much. You're working out so much. I can't even like, I heard like a Peloton girl does like eight
Starting point is 00:22:24 hours of exercise a day. Seems like a lot. It seems high. It seems. It seems high. Well, how many hours are in a day real quick? Yeah. Let's figure this out.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Work backwards. Yeah. Something like that. We don't know for sure. Nobody may know. But it is like you, you get this idea of what you can do as like a person with a job, a family, a life. And then you're like, I'm not seeing these crazy.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I'm not getting sliced shredded. Any of those words. And you're like, what am I doing wrong? And you're like, well, maybe you're not like a psycho. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it's what you're doing right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:04 So I tell people like, like it's okay. Like if you have goals, that's good. And what Stanger said is good, like keep track and all that stuff. But it's also like, okay, you're on a, life is long. Yeah. Let it be a journey, you know? You're in your early twenties.
Starting point is 00:23:18 You don't have to cut your carbs in your early twenties. Like where do you go from there? Right. Right. That's the time to eat them. I'm dealing with some middle-aged malaise existential crisis. I'm anyway, I'm 16.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Let me know. What does it mean, man? Why are we here, buddy? I'm just worried about global climate change and how it'll affect me going forward. I'm 11, but yeah, I need advice. They should be worried. Yeah, actually.
Starting point is 00:23:45 And my advice to an 11-year-old is like, you're fucked. You're gone. Yeah. Sorry about that whole, what we've been doing. Live hard in your twin-aged years because you don't have a lot left. Yeah. Go to space camp or some shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:59 And then we'll head off this planet with the Bezos. Yeah. All right. Let's take a break, answer some more questions on the other side of these messages. Oh. Thank you to Helix Sleep for sponsoring this episode of our show. Hell yes. Thank you for making the sleep test, the sleep exam, and letting me ace it and become the
Starting point is 00:24:24 doctor of the mattress. Yes, sir. Yeah. So Helix makes a really great mattress line and you take a little sleep quiz to see what mattress is right for you. Mm-hmm. Yeah, right. Jake's been bragging about completing this two-minute, honestly, like Buzzfeed light
Starting point is 00:24:44 quiz. I know how to sleep for the better part of the decade. Excuse me. I don't brag about completing it. I brag about acing it. Because you got the mattress and it was great or? Yeah. I got the perfect mattress.
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Starting point is 00:26:39 And that gets you a free four-week trial, free postage and a digital scale. That sounds pretty good. Thank you, stamps.com for sponsoring this show. When we're back, Aaron and or Ryan, do you guys have any? Oh, it's a little bit too big to find it. Wow, I'm coming. Gross. Uncooth.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Sorry about that. Yeah, uncoothed advice. Is that? We should start warning people about that, yeah. That was Jake making some lewd joke. That was off-color. I'm the one that says gross at the end of that. You say mom, I'm coming.
Starting point is 00:27:17 I say gross. Okay, I did have questions, so I'm glad you guys clarified that. She could be ready to go and you're on your way out. Yes, exactly. Yes, that's sort of what I was expecting. That's it. Yeah, okay. That felt right.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Okay. All right. Uncoothed advice. What do you guys got? I've been meditating for a while and I got pretty disciplined about it and I would do different apps and all this kind of shit and it felt good. It never, you know, I don't know if you guys have ever experimented with it or tried it or got on a roll with it, have you?
Starting point is 00:28:02 I've experimented and not been able to get on a roll. I can fuck around for like a week or two. Sure. Okay. So, to some degree, like, you maybe feel like generally better, but who knows if it's some kind of like placebo effect or it's never like you do it and you're like, whoa, I feel enlightened. Basically, for me, it like works for the next 20 minutes to an hour.
Starting point is 00:28:23 I'm always like, wow, yeah, that was really nice. And then by the end of the day, I'm like, I'm just as stressed as I was before. Now I have less time because I was fucking saying a word for half an hour or so. Shit, I missed an email. So yeah, so I've had like similar, you know, stops and starts with it. And this kind of most, most recent time around, I'm doing like this variation of TM with, which is transcendental meditation. And that's like what David Lynch and a bunch of like celebrities and stuff do it.
Starting point is 00:28:53 And essentially what it screws down to is it's two times a day, 20 minutes each session. You have a mantra. If you do, if you sign up through TM, you pay a bunch of money and you do like a little ceremony and then they give you your mantra. It's secret. You don't tell anybody. And it's basically like a nonsense word that just kind of makes a sound like kachong or something like that.
Starting point is 00:29:16 You know, and then so you just say this mantra over and over while you're doing, like while you're having your meditative experience. So anyway, the benefit of like pain and going through the whole process is that it gets, it creates this perceived value. Like you're more likely to do it. You spend a thousand bucks or whatever it is, but that's prohibitive for a lot of people. And then also you can start putting too much on to the meditation or have expectations of what it can and should do for you.
Starting point is 00:29:41 And then that can keep you from doing it. And then also, you know, twice a day can be a little bit too much of a commitment. But I was reading this by this guy, a book by this guy and he talked about saying like meditation should be for everybody. And he said, if you just take what the basics of TM and just say the word, like just say a sound over and over again, like rum. And you just think of the mantra as something that you gently kind of tend to, you don't use the mantra to try to get, you know, like yourself completely present or try to beat
Starting point is 00:30:14 away thoughts that are going to come up and happen. Like you'll be thinking about like, oh, I'm wasting time or this is what I'm, what else I have to do today or whatever. And then people would like kind of like beat it back with their mantra. And he's like, don't just let the thoughts happen. And over time, just kind of tend to your mantra while you're saying, you know, saying it over and over again. And then do it for 20 minutes and just commit to one time a day.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And then if you like that, then eventually do two. And anyway, it seems really simple and like not that much of a crazy breakthrough, but I just took what this guy said and applied it. And it did, I feel like I've been a lot more consistent with it. And I've managed my expectations of what it can do for me. And I do feel better for having done it. And the sound that I'm making over and over again is rum, R-U-M, rum, rum, rum, rum. You can't give it away.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Yeah, I thought it was a secret. No, that's if you do the real, like the, the, the, the woo woo TM secretive thing. Like mine, I just made up a sound, you know? And so. Wow. Is it actually rum? Rum. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Damn. It's also alcohol. And you're drinking rum. I've been drinking a lot of drugs these days. I don't know why. I don't know if it's related or not. It does time up exactly to when I started doing this. Wait, how long have you, how long have you been doing?
Starting point is 00:31:27 I would say maybe like two and a half months, three months. So good run. And then sometimes I'll do it twice a day, but I don't feel like I'm failing if I don't, if I don't hit the second time, you know, because it's just that one time. And then it's also, you know, the freedom of like, I don't worry about if I'm like, I feel like I'm doing it wrong. Like there's no right or wrong to it.
Starting point is 00:31:48 It's just like, I'll sit there and then, you know, sometimes it's a shitty session. I feel like I'm crazy distracted and way out there with what I'm thinking. But when I, you know, I'll just start rumming it up, rum, rum, rum, rum. And then I'm like, you know, rum it up. Such a funny word. It makes, it makes sense. But just to think about, do you think about rum when you're doing it on accident?
Starting point is 00:32:09 I don't like, it's now gone. You know, if you keep saying a word over and over and over again, it just, you start to like lose what the word even means or what it is. So now it's like kind of disappeared from being, you know, rum, but people should check out reserve bar. And that's what I thought you were going to say. I thought you were going to be like, you know what? I'll give you a word for half the price of TM.
Starting point is 00:32:34 You can save some cash and it's rum, Venmo, 30 bucks, do it or don't. That's the move. Do it or don't. I got your word. You will do a secret word for you. Have you been my one? Tequila. All right.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Transcendental meditation light. Aaron, what do you have? Okay. Okay. I know it doesn't have to be about fitness, but I'm going to go the fitness route. Okay. Cool. Why not?
Starting point is 00:32:58 So I think that my unsolicited advice is if you are in a household with you and another person or multiple people or whatever, I believe that everyone should be able to squat the weight of the person that they live in a house with. Wow. Okay. So that's my unsolicited advice. That's not always possible, but I would say that the weight. So if I'm living with a girlfriend who lives, who weighs, you know, somewhere in
Starting point is 00:33:29 the triple digits, I have to be able to take two pretty heavy dumbbells, barbells and squat with them. Or you're talking about actually lifting her up and squatting with her. Well, you don't have to actually lift the person, but if you have a person in there down, you could try, but I, but I'm talking about just having the knowledge that if something happened to this person and you needed to get them somewhere that you can and, and have that strength in your body to do that and to do it in a way that won't make it worse.
Starting point is 00:34:08 So that's, so that's the thing that I'm like, I'm learning, talking with people about is like, I pulled your head off. No, you know, yeah, you do not, I could totally squat my wife, but if she was holding anything, if she had a bag or something, I might have to take her shoes off before I rescue or empty them because it's fucking, it's bare. We're barely empty the bag, but I think you need to figure out if your wife can squat you, that's the, that's, that's what we get to figure out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:38 That's what I want. That's hard because the, the smaller person is smaller and then the bigger person weighs more and that's just the two bad things about trying to squat that other person. Yeah. So you could give your, give your wife a bag and see if you can. I definitely can't, but we're going to start training her to be able to squat me.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Yeah. Yeah. Cause if I pass out in a fire, babe, I need you to be able to lift me up and carry me out fireman style over your shoulder, down a flight of stairs and out the front door. I did. Um, I, uh, I've talked about it on the show and some people know, but I did go into sudden cardiac arrest in my sleep.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Yeah. Yeah. About two years ago, maybe, and my wife had to shove my big ass out of the bed and perform CPR on me. Oh my God. That was like a thing too of like getting, you know, he's like, you know, close to 200 pounds, it's just literally, literally dead weight in the bed. And she had to like get me out of the bed on a flat surface and then do.
Starting point is 00:35:36 She saved your life. Save my life. She was able to do it. She had to do it for seven. I think like seven to 10 minutes until the paramedics got there and then they had to do that, uh, the fucking different paddles on me. Yeah. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Were you awake for any of it? I don't remember any of it. And I even, I even, like it darked out maybe two or three days before it happened too, because I was in a coma. I was in a coma for three days after. Yeah. I was like a holy shit. When was this two years ago?
Starting point is 00:36:06 I was two, maybe three years ago now. Yeah. I mean, it was, it was crazy. Well, wasn't it like right at your birthday or something crazy on my fucking birthday? Yeah. Ho, it's a Friday night. I went to bed.
Starting point is 00:36:19 I mean, I didn't party or anything. That was the big thing was that the people at the, I got, I went to St. Jude's hospital, no, um, St. Joseph's in Burbank and, uh, they were just waiting on a toxicology report because somebody my age are like the guy who's doing drugs. I mean, there's no, there's no other reason why you would go into cardiac arrest. You know, in, yeah. And do they say what happened?
Starting point is 00:36:41 Like, do you know what happened? You know, it's really mysterious. They, um, that I got. So of course got all kinds of health checkups and, you know, they're, they're immediately thinking like, okay, is there something going on, like blockage in your heart, um, because cardiac arrest is different than a heart attack. A heart attack has to do with the plumbing. So something gets clogged or a valve stops working or whatever.
Starting point is 00:37:03 And then the blood doesn't, uh, fill and release from the heart the way it should, and then that can cause cardiac arrest. Cardiac arrest on its own is electrical. So drugs could disrupt that. Um, you know, anything that kind of disrupts that like frequency, uh, you know, suffocation or, or any of that stuff. And so for me, it was just a complete anomaly. It was some kind of like, uh, electrical anomaly.
Starting point is 00:37:26 They don't know why it happened, but it just, it did. It's rare. So how did your wife know that it was happening? She heard me making weird noises in my sleep. Um, probably like, and did she know how to do, she called, she called 911 and the guy talked her through it. Cause the way you do CPR now is you don't do, you don't do breaths.
Starting point is 00:37:45 You literally just pump the person's chest. Do compressions. Yeah. Oh really? So punky Bruce, you lied to me because when she took cherry out of that refrigerator, you got to, you got to hold the nose. You got to put, uh, fix your lips, breathe into their lungs. And then that might, at the time, that might've been, you know, punky.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Yeah. Yeah. That was fine. Holy shit. Uh, yeah. So she, yeah. So she has, she's just pumped the chest the whole time. And then, um, and then the fucking paramedics did too.
Starting point is 00:38:12 And they've, they, uh, broke one of my ribs that, oh, that often happens too. You know, but I'll take it, you know. Yeah. So you wake up three days later in a fucking hospital day. Yeah. I won't. Happy birthday to you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Happy birthday. Crazy. I woke up and I could see my, so I saw there's a bunch of it's St. Joseph. So there's a bunch of religious iconography around. And then, um, the ICU nurses were speaking a different language. They were, you know, some of them were from another country and we're speaking their language.
Starting point is 00:38:43 And so like, I heard like another language and I'm like, and then I saw my parents and I was like, what the fuck happened? Cause I don't rager. I see my parents once a year, you know, like, I don't know, once or twice a year or something like that. And so I was like, mom and dad here. No, I'm trying to think like, was on vacation and something happened or what, you know, you're trying to do the math on what happened.
Starting point is 00:39:04 And then so, yeah. And then they explained everything to you and you're like, okay. All right. Yes. Wow. Still didn't. Thanks. Good to, good to know.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Uh, all right. Starting to take wires off. Yeah. Horrifying. So anyway. Yeah. So see, you need to be like, I, it's, it's, it's a crazy story, but like, how, like, how big is Nancy?
Starting point is 00:39:26 She is six, two, three, 50. No, she, you're married to a defensive and she's like, she's five, five, you know, 120, 120, something like that. Yeah. So significantly smaller than me, but Aaron, Aaron's got a whole, you know, Aaron's husband is paralyzed from the waist down. And so, yeah, that's a whole, but that's what, that's what started me thinking about this kind of stuff is
Starting point is 00:39:55 like these, um, you know, I'm in multiple like groups that are with, uh, like the partner of someone with a spinal cord injury and you don't see a spinal cord injury coming, you know? And so all of a sudden, thankfully I was in, in good shape when the accident happened, but same with my husband, he was in good shape until the accident happened. And it was this like, this thing where you're like, Oh, like my husband fell out of his chair.
Starting point is 00:40:21 How do we get him up? You know, how do I, do I have the strength to deadlift my husband or squat my husband? You know, so that's kind of got my brain on that track. And then I've realized like how many people their partner needs to be like physically, actually physically strong for like real life, tangible things. And, and you don't think about that before, like, you don't think about that normally until you have to.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And so I'm just like out here trying to like, like tell people, like, please, like start now before hopefully nothing ever bad really happens. Like you think about being strong in terms of being hot, kind of, at least I do. You know, you're ripped, you're sliced, you're like, this is fucking hot. Yeah, yeah, you have to like lifting someone it like out of a chair into a tub or something or help. That's also like, it's, yeah, it is hot, but it's definitely, you don't think about your strength being, at least I don't think about my strength being useful.
Starting point is 00:41:18 I just think about it being fucking sexy. Yeah. Right, right. And it, and it is, but it is like, I'm like, if we can get like the mentality of it to shift just a little bit, it could still be hot. It's still like, right. It's not just vanity. It's like, it's, you can strong and useful.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Yeah, strong and useful. Yeah. So, and, and a little hot. You want to be a little hot. I want to be sexy still, but I'm down to help someone if they're about to die. Just, can you take a picture of my lats when I do it? And you know what, if they love you, they will, they love you. My wife, performing CPR, Selfie, most likes she's ever gotten, you know, so.
Starting point is 00:42:01 She went live. She went live. With like a filter on, like it kept, like a filter kept coming on her face. And then she put the camera on me and the filter. It was like a French beret and like the Eiffel Tower in the background and stuff. That makes sense. Yeah. You were, you were speaking in tongues at the time, so it was fine.
Starting point is 00:42:17 But at least your eyes were bigger. Your cheekbones were higher. Your nose was right. Your skin was not a beauty mark. Little dear antlers. Wow, holy shit, you guys. I would say that your stories have inspired me to not take anything for granted, but I know I'll just sort of forget about it and get really angry.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Next time my postmates arrive without like the pad tie that I specifically ordered without peanuts or something, I'll sort of lose all perspective on this whole moment in time and I appreciate you guys sharing it with me. But I wish it would would make me a better person, but I know it won't. God, that was awesome. Yeah, we love it. Yeah, that was that was good. I think you should be angry if you if someone gets her order wrong.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Yes, I do. I say I'll think like the universe is conspiring against me and it'll send me into a days long slump. You blew it. Why do I you want to keep? Hey, Keith, you're missing part of my order. Yeah, you you've camped outside of a tie place and just applauded, right? Every time people come and go to work.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Nice. Oh, really nice. Is there extra limes on that fuck? Because whenever I specify that, it never seems to arrive. And I guess peanuts, whether they were specified or no. I had this client that I was training for a while and he was a really successful guy and he was telling me about a friend of his. He worked for Mattel and a friend of his that he worked with also worked for Mattel. And it was I don't know if it's still going on,
Starting point is 00:43:49 but the guy was in some country in South America and got kidnapped. And it was one of those things to where they would kidnap high profile people and then try to get a ransom. Oh, my God. Yeah, they did a movie about it. Proof of life. Everybody's favorite Russell Crowe movie. But how do you do? They and so he and he was like he said the guy never took care of himself
Starting point is 00:44:12 was very overweight and in struggling with his health and he got kidnapped and, you know, was very dramatic and he was, you know, hidden away from his family and it was horrible for his family and they managed to kind of track him down and get him and they were able to pay the ransom and get him back. And so I was like, wow, did he did he turn it around? I mean, is he like a whole new lease on life? And he and my client looked at me and said, no, he's never been heavier. I was like, oh, all right, well, I guess there's two ways to go.
Starting point is 00:44:43 The other way, I guess. I thought for sure I was like, now a guy runs marathons and he's never wasted a moment. He's like, no, he's this double down on all his vices. He's down to Netflix and chill his life away now that he sort of got it back. She's actually an old lease on life. He's he's renting on life now. Horrible interest in nothing going towards the principal.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Yeah. I mean, I can't believe he didn't lose weight when he was kidnapped. Is that OK to say? I think they wanted to keep them fat and healthy so that if they ever had to send his family a finger or something, they would. He's in good. He is like a like a handsome Gretel type situation. But that's another good unsolicited advice. If you're ever like hearted up for some cash, I mean, I don't want to say
Starting point is 00:45:33 it's a good idea to kidnap someone. But yeah, I would have worked out for these people, right? They ended up getting I think everybody everybody won. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I haven't seen the Russell Crow movie. I mean, Mattel has the money. I mean, I'm sure they could find it. It's just it's honestly they should be doing that anyway. Yeah, they're like a more equal distribution of wealth.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Yeah, sometimes it takes a kidnapping to sort of create this new but better. We've all fucking bought enough goddamn Barbies that somebody could, you know, go towards somebody's a couple of meals. You know, they're struggling a little bit. Why not? God damn, yeah. All right, let's take another break and come back. We really have to answer more.
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Starting point is 00:46:58 We got one for Jill's grandma. Holy smokes. We got one for my parents. So there are three of these bad boys in our family right now, but they are they're a great, really easy way to like stay in touch with your family. You can upload as many photos as you want directly into my parents' kitchen. It's really nice. Oh, that's cool. So you take a photo of anything, perhaps a baby,
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Starting point is 00:47:40 I was just being goofy a little bit like, this is how I told my grandma she was pregnant. Yeah, yeah, kind of like she misheard it or something like that. Or the way you said it was kind of like could go either way. By the way, Jill's grandma is pregnant. Oh my God. Jill's grandma is 90 and pregnant. It's pretty cool. And you told me with a digital photo frame. Holy smokes. And we let her know with an Aura. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:50:31 Here's another one, about a 22 year old guy from New York. How about Aaron? Do you have a 22 year old New Yorker? Oh, um, Anthony. That's pretty. Oh, very. New York. Hey, Tony.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Last. Yeah, I just watched a soprano. So I think that's in my brain. That's not. We'll do it. Fouchy. Last name. What do you think for the last name? Just like the Sopranos. Yeah, soprano, soprano. Tony Soprano writes, what up, folks?
Starting point is 00:51:00 I'm a 22 year old guy from New York. I am a new member of a gym and I've recently been going more and more. One thing that comes with this is seeing a lot more people, specifically ladies. I want to start off by saying that I don't think I'm a creepy guy and I give everyone their space and let them do their own thing at the gym. And that's what I would want others to do to me. However, my question is, is there a way to talk slash flirt with people at the gym without coming across as a complete predator?
Starting point is 00:51:25 Every time I want to talk to someone, my conscience tells me that I'm just interruptive and very annoying. Please help PS. I listen to the pot every Monday at the gym and seeing Amir's insane streak of turkeys inspires me to push myself even harder. So thanks. Oh, Jake gives out awards at the end of the episode. One golden mic for podcasting excellence and one turdy for somebody that didn't do as well as the winner of the golden mic.
Starting point is 00:51:52 And five hundred episodes in he's won every single time. I'll tell you a turdy for not knowing hold up. You couldn't come up with the phrase hold up. So that that'll definitely be a turdy. Yeah. And then golden mic wise, he also. It feels weird to make the guests split it. Yeah, I don't want to choose favorites. So I'll just give it to me for that kind of amazing act of diplomacy.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Yeah, King Solomon style. He doesn't want to split the award. I'll have it, which is the opposite of what King Solomon ended up with the kid at the end of that at the parable. OK, is there any way to flirt with someone at the gym without being creepy? Or is it an inherently creepy place to flirt? Oh, I'm creepy, so I'll recuse myself. Well, I'll say I think I think it would be the same anywhere.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Just kind of like read the room. If you see like if someone's lingering around where you're lingering, like you can flirt, that's OK. I think just like, but like start small because, you know, people are in a vulnerable space. Like you don't know how comfortable they are in a gym. So you want to give them kind of like as much of the like a warm up, if you will, as possible
Starting point is 00:53:09 so that you don't overstep your bounds because that's also like you don't want to shit where you eat. So you don't want to get weird, quick with someone there. So yeah, take your time. Be chill, normal, cool. Yeah, it feels like if you're going to talk to anybody, talk to them about gym related stuff first. Yeah, you know, your surroundings, the gym.
Starting point is 00:53:32 I like who can squat. Never mind. Forget it. Do you think you can and then you go limp? You're a dummy in her arms. Sort of forced upon her a trust fall. So she has. Will you be my hero to me? That's sexy. Congratulations on your young demo.
Starting point is 00:53:53 That's exciting. A lot of 20. Yeah, 20. That's is that not the case with dumbbells? I don't know. I think there's. Yeah, but it was just it's we got 30 is probably that's good. That's better. That's more of an alpha consumer. We'd like to reach a little bit more of an older audience brand-wise, but we'll sort of take what we can get as our audience ages into an income tax bracket.
Starting point is 00:54:15 That's more monetizable. It's important for. Wow. Will you fill out a form and tell me your income this year? You're learning at the gym. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, just repeat what he's saying. You'll be fine. I'm already nervous to talk to you.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Tony, you got to watch for headphones and if people are listening to music and you can kind of tell if somebody is like in the zone with what they're doing, you don't stay out of it. But if you're getting some good eye contact and a smile and it comes up organic, that's really your only way in. I used to I worked at this gym and I saw this girl that was so beautiful all the time that would come in there and train later at night. And I later found out she is a playboy playmate.
Starting point is 00:55:01 I think playmate of the year. Her name's Karen McDougal. People can look her up. She ended up having bad politics, which is a bummer. But she is I didn't know that at the time and she's stunningly beautiful. I swear. I promise. Yeah, I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:55:18 And she's a crazy, gorgeous. And so I always wanted to talk to her and I worked at the gym. So I was like, oh, maybe this it's not as weird that I'm just like, hey, you know, because I would see her every night. She kind of she's in the later crew of training. And so I was always waiting for like this moment I described like the organic moment. And so she had small earbuds and I didn't realize it at the time. And so she was in there and she was training legs really hard.
Starting point is 00:55:44 And on the rate, like on the like the satellite sound system, I think like Old Man by Neil Young was playing like, old man, look at my life. I'm a lot like you. Like this is like crazy song. And so like while I was kind of stacking stuff up by her, I said, this is very inspirational music to train legs to. And so and she was like looking straightforward. And then she kind of saw that I was by her and she was like, what?
Starting point is 00:56:12 And then like had her earbuds in and I was like, oh, never mind, never mind, never mind. And she was like, no, no, no. And then like set her dumbbells down and then popped her earbuds out. And she was like, what? And I was like, oh, this song playing is very inspirational. It's a different song. Yeah, I mean, it was I have the tiger. I was sunk and she couldn't have looked more bothered.
Starting point is 00:56:36 And rightfully so. And it was not my intention. The joke was a five, maybe. And then she heard it in the moment. I've told her in this story before and and then after, you know, having to do the explanation and the the long runway and the wind up to it, it got downgraded to a negative four, maybe. Yeah, well, that's tough.
Starting point is 00:56:57 A category two storm by the time it hit land, which is her taking off her earbuds. Yeah, I'd be I'm like this guy. I'm so paranoid. I won't even like talk to people in social settings. I'm like, I want to err on the side of not being a creep so much that like somebody has to approach me for me to talk to them. And even then, I'm pretty icy at first.
Starting point is 00:57:16 I mean, it's very like I have been hit on at the gym before and it does. It is a balance of like I come I pay to come here. So I can't like just like stop coming here now. And it feels so it is like I understand. So really just take it easy and like and and just like really over cautious. And I like it's smart to be over cautious because you guys pay to go to this place. You don't want them to feel trapped or weird. And it's not like a bar.
Starting point is 00:57:49 It's not like a social setting where you're like you're expecting somebody to come up and talk to you if necessary. There's no social lubricant other than the runner's high that you're getting. Which I don't know if it's real. I don't know if it's real. Yeah, or should we dispel that myth right now? You won't get the the pheromones, the releasing of the serotonin when you're working out really hard.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Yeah. Yeah, I've never had runners. I have you had runners. I stay on I never feel it during. But I there's times where I was like, man, I remember running and feeling good. But it's it's never like it's never when I start the run. I'm never like, oh, here it comes. Yeah, it's more it's like sometimes you're happy and you're also running. Yeah, I think that's right.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I also get eating high and staying at staying in bed high. I get high occasionally whenever. Yeah, I've I've been high and and I've never felt like that when when around running. Yeah, it's a different high entirely different. Yeah, Jake, I assume you've been sort of scrolling through pictures of Karen McDougal. You started typing before he even said McDougal, you were sort of typing into Google search off. I could see, you know, you're retina was my yeah, my screen is shared, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:59:05 We should say that this is no FAP, November, one of our sponsors this month. So no FAP, November sponsored our podcast. That's right. Yes, because it's a huge movement. Yeah, absurd. It's actually no FAP, November. Wow, yes, that's where you grow a mustache and stop masturbating for an entire calendar month. It's better title than the other no.
Starting point is 00:59:30 The other way to say it, I don't know. Which is what? Oh, no, no, not. Yeah. Oh, I don't know. I said no FAP. Yeah. Oh, this is a competing nonprofit. Sorry. Well, you can not if it's from a wet dream. Yeah, the slight difference between nothing. It gives you there's a different permission structure to coming.
Starting point is 00:59:51 It's also all those kids have got allergies and stuff to that need to do. Yeah. Yeah, you're allergic to almonds every month is no nut. That's a good tweet. Jake, write that down for me. Write it down. Yeah. Appreciate it. Sorry, I have a lot of tabs of Karen McDowell right now. She's wearing a MAGA hat nearly all of them.
Starting point is 01:00:12 That's fine. But that's it. So it's great. Yeah. All right, sweet. Aaron, Ryan, tell us again, Dumbbells, a fitness podcast. Yeah. So Dumbbells, right here on the headgum network, people can check it out every Wednesday. We we kind of
Starting point is 01:00:30 in our relaunch, we're trying to do some different things than what we've done before. So we're trying different classes. We're taking suggestions from the listeners, trying different workout equipment, different workout products and drinks and all that shit. And then giving people the goods on air. Recently, we did a pole dancing class.
Starting point is 01:00:51 We had our instructor come on and talk about that. Then what else did we do? We did Dance Church. That's the episode that came out today. Is that the dancing class on YouTube where it's like this? Sort of. It's like it's like kind of like a it's like an all-inclusive sort of it's like kind of like free dancing, but it's not it's not free.
Starting point is 01:01:16 But it's like kind of it's a little less structured than like choreographed. All abilities like so you can you don't have to be you don't have to know the routine going into it. You can just go in there completely cold and not be a good dancer and still have fun and get a good workout, I would say. That's cool. Yeah. But we're going to go bouldering. We're that's that's up next.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Oh, yeah. That's what I'm about to do right now. They're great. Really? Yeah. Cool. I'm excited to try. I have really long nails right now. So I'm excited to see how that goes. It'll help you stay on the wall. Yeah, I think so. Take an Wolverine style.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Wolverine, yeah. And yeah, we want to do there's a bike class on the beach that we have to do Stanger. OK, you tell. Yes, let's see. I'm sorry. We've got to figure it out. It feels very elitist, but I really want to do it. Yeah. Yeah, that's the problem with like, you know, making this relatable to people that listen is like we're in LA.
Starting point is 01:02:07 So it's like we're doing a Malibu, you know, stationary bike class at J Lo's teaching, so everybody should do that if they want to get in shape, you know, yeah, but hey, look, we're going to try the weird shit and we're going to report back on it. All right. We're having fun. We're trying to get people involved and, you know, fitness can be boring, but it can also be awesome and fun. So we're trying to mix it up.
Starting point is 01:02:29 I like it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you're listening to this podcast, you clearly have time to waste. You should you should probably listen to a podcast that actually makes you a better person. And that's definitely the dumbbells. It is definitely us for sure. No problems there.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Just come by. We'll teach you something. Slice. Yeah. Get sliced. Yeah. New slogan. But you can email us at AskTheDumbbells at gmail.com. You can tweet at us Instagram at us at the dumbbells. Hell yeah. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Good work. Yeah. Thank you. And if you have any ideally non-fitness related because we're not really experts, but we'll tick we can get or theme songs or emails if I reshow at gmail.com. Remember that dear Lincoln opening theme song? I remember. I like that. That's right. We got a pretty epic closing theme song.
Starting point is 01:03:21 It's three minutes long. No joke. That's why I figured it was better for an outro than an intro. Yeah. Let me look up who wrote it. While I do that, Jake, do you have any parting wisdom, closing thoughts as I scroll through and see who the hell. Yeah. The key to November is to just found it. OK. It's from I just muted Jake. It's from Lewis Cochran.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Eight more years. Matt Pope featuring Lou Green. All right. There you have her. Thanks so much for listening this week. We'll be back as soon as possible. Thank you again to Ryan and Aaron. Bless up. Bless up. Bless up, guys. Bless up. Ciao for now.
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