If I Were You - 581: Born Rick (w/ Charlie Bardey and Natalie Rotter-Laitman)

Episode Date: February 27, 2023

In this episode we discuss posture, bangs, and financial fitness with Charlie Bardey and Natalie Rotter-Laitman of Exploration: LIVE!, a podcast joining Headgum Wednesday, March 8th. Listen to new episodes every week on Spotify, Apple, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts! Follow Exploration: LIVE! on Instagram and Twitter. Follow Charlie on Instagram and Twitter. Follow Natalie on Instagram and Twitter. Advertise on If I Were You via Gumball.fm.See omny.fm/listener for privacy information.

This is a headgum original. Stand up. No. Dance for us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Take your shirt off.

Get comfortable. Have this wine. Lovely. Lovely. Lovely. Lovely. Lovely. Lovely.

That was great, but we should choose shorter theme songs when we have new guests, I think, because they didn't know how long it would last. Yeah, it's just uncomfortable. I didn't want to interrupt it because I felt like I wanted to respect kind of the work of the production. But how long would you say that lasted? An hour? An hour. Yeah.

I fell asleep and then like, how long was I out for kind of thing? It's kind of like how a two and a half hour movie feels like 10 hours, but like a 90 minute movie feels like it just flies by. Exactly. So a 90 second theme song might as well be an hour. Yeah. 60 seconds is fine. Two and a half minutes.

Anyway, thanks to Henry Giles. Yes. For writing that for us. Great. Thank you. It makes me want to listen to Mac DiMarco. Wow, so you knew that was a Mac DiMarco parody. Yeah, well.

Having never listened to Mac DiMarco before, I could sense it was Mac DiMarco. Right, just from the vibes. And even listened to Mac DiMarco. Right. Would you say you knew what song he was parodying? Yeah, probably Good Times. Yeah. Oh, Good Times by Mac DiMarco.

Yeah. Let the Good Times roll. It's called No Other Heart. No Other Heart. No Other Heart. I think Good Times was, it's like the track right before. Yeah. That's actually a really cool name for a song, I think.

Good Times? No, No Other Heart. Yeah. Good Times is like a Beach Boys song, I imagine, right? That was back when they didn't name any songs here. No. Because it was Mozart's Fifth Symphony. Right.

And they were like, oh, we can title them. Like, let's call it Good Times. Yeah, this one's like the fun one. No. This one's the sad one. Yeah. Now you have to have really unique names. Right.

We're here with Natalie. Yeah. And Charlie. That's right. I yelled it. That was easy. Yeah. It's easy because you don't know weird names like Well Amir.

Right. It's kind of. Thank God. Yeah. I mean, if that happened to me, I'd be. I would just be like, hey, I'm here with and then point to you. Yeah. Yeah.

I'd go Amir. Nice. All American names. Yeah. And you are, you guys are hosting a podcast called Exploration Live. That's coming to Hedgum. That's right. Yeah.

That's why we're here. So excited. That's why we're here. Let's say it. And it's exciting to have you guys here. Thanks. We're excited to be here. The podcast already exists, but it's coming to Hedgum in March.

Exactly. Yeah. Right now we're kind of more independent. Yeah. In each other's rooms. Wow. It's actually not to like urge you guys to leave Hedgum, but isn't Indy kind of cool? It is a cool vibe.

Yeah. No, and we're considering leaving. Really? Yeah. Because you guys haven't joined yet. Yeah. No, but we're just keeping it on the table. Yeah.

We're sure. We're excited to leave. Yeah. Well, it's been amazing. Yeah. It's such a crazy ride. Yeah. To see the corporate side of things.

Right. And you're like, that's not for us. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We were Indy at one point. Yeah. Then we were Indy again. Then we were Indy.

Then we started Hedgum, which is like sort of Indy to Indy. Hedgum's kind of Indy. That's one of the Indy-ish. Yeah. Indy adjacent. But then you become the suit, which isn't cool either. What can you do? Right.

We can't wait to be the suits. Yeah. So true. And honestly, we didn't really, we couldn't wait to sell out in a way. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Well, because it was like, we were so into the idea of being Indy. And then it's like, we're like, okay, who's going to do like the mixing and like producing

of it? Yeah. We have to do that? Oh, that can't work. Indy is cool. Yeah. But being Indy kind of sucks. Yeah.

It's a lot of actual like. Yeah. Because then you have to do shit. Yeah. Can you imagine us like on the board? No. And that's what we were doing. Right.

Mailing air checks to an advertiser. We used to have to do that. Yeah. You would, we would cold email like Frank and Oak. Yeah. Here's our traffic stats. Can you send over a copy so we can run an ad? Wow.

Yeah. It was so Indy. It was so Indy. It was Indy in a not cool way. So I would like fill out tax paperwork, which is like nobody tells you that that's part of Indy. Right. So true.

10.99 or as Indy as it gets. Yeah. Right. But that's not fun, Indy. No. No. And by the way, we're not rocking with taxes. We are.

We are. Oh, we are. There's always one person that does the taxes. Sorry, we are. We're like, we are not doing it. I'm like, we are it. That's right. You need one person to do the taxes.

I am doing the taxes. Yeah. Amiru is my you. Yeah. I am my feminine power with my dynamic with Charlie and that I don't, I don't look at numbers and I don't, and I have more of a nurturing mother. But you wear the headphones, which is a masculine role in our relationship. Yes.

Oh, it's true. I do wear the headphones. You're watching the levels. I am. And often I wear the headphones and I'm watching levels and then the pot will listen back and it sounds horrible. Oh, I see. So you shouldn't have been doing that.

So I'm more playing pretend in my headphones and I'm like, who is watching them? No, it's not plugged in. No. We guys are also being audited. Right? Yeah. You guys aren't going well either. No, no, no, no.

We're actually, you're actually taking on a sinking ship. Your debt is now ours. Yes. You told the agent that you don't fuck with taxes. No, we don't. That was sort of the first red flag. Right. I said that on a podcast.

That was my issue. This one, yeah. All this stuff you're saying is actually pretty scary to me. I know it's jokes, but then every time you're like, you're being audited. I was like. Do I go to you now? No, no. It's not.

We're not being audited. We're not being audited. If I'm ever audited, you guys will never see me again. Yeah. We're toast basically. At the black box. Right. There's no way.

We can't get on. The expenses alone. If we got audited, I think the auditor would give up. They would just be so annoyed with us not being able to find anything. I mean, I log into Citibank and they're like, we only got like 18 months of records. I'm like, okay, so what happens if they want to see shit from 2019? They're like, where were you then? I don't know.

I can look on my phone. I obviously stole the money. That's what I was doing. How much do I owe to make you go away? You're looking at your camera roll. You're like, I went to a taco place in 2018. I guess. If that helps at all.

I didn't take a picture of the receipt, but maybe they still have it. It's not healthy to live in the past like that. So true. You under oath. I'm already worried about 2024 taxes and you guys are fucking bringing up old shit. Right. I look forward. Yeah.

Speaking of looking forward, Henry Giles says, if you use this song, please wish my friend Patrick a happy birthday. I mean, this is just, he's giving us too much credit or kind of taking advantage of us. If it's possible, could you please use this song on the episode that will come out on February 13th because that will be as close to Patrick's birthday as possible. I guess no promises. We can't. We can't do that.

We can't do shit on Henry's timeline. After we record? It's being like fuckable. Move stuff around, I guess. We're here with guests. Is it possible to move your podcast up? Yeah, no, of course. Of course.

So you guys will have to record just to make. Yeah. By the way, it'll still be a birthday message. We're still saying happy birthday, but he just wants it to come out before. For the birthday. I guess so we can get absolved of giving him any other gift or something. Yeah. I think you can hold the boundary.

Okay. We will play the song, but we will do it on our timeline. Yes, yeah. And whether that's February 23rd or 3rd. By the way, I don't even know if February 13th is a Monday. Our episodes come out on Monday. I bet it is a Monday. Yeah.

Henry did the research. Okay. It's a Monday. Valentine's Day. I know that's a Monday. Yeah, because Valentine's Day is Tuesday. Wow. I'm very keyed in to love and the dynamics that love.

How do you know that Valentine's Day is a Tuesday? It's not a fun story. It's because I'm going to be. I was going to go to LA with Jill, but then she had. She got a meeting for Monday and she was like, but I'll fly out Tuesday. And I was like, okay. And then she was like, and I'll be there for Valentine's Day. So now I'm aware that she's coming to LA on Tuesday.

Love is so beautiful. I know. Love makes you know. So like the logistics of it. Yeah. There's no way that like the meeting had nothing to do with it, but somehow she's flying on Valentine's Day. Right.

It's just like. Oh my God. Which is actually so romantic. I'm getting on a plane. Oh my God. The meeting is like a date with another guy, but still it's romantic. Just that she makes time for both of us. And the flight is a Spirit Airlines flight with two layovers.

That'll get rained out in Dallas. Maybe the stewardess. I'm sorry. That's not the term anymore. Flight attendant. Like from the 50s. Yeah. Maybe the broad who brings the drinks will wear a little heart.

Smoking a cigarette. You could say stewardess. Yeah. Okay. Maybe the stewardess will wear a little heart flask. That's what I was going to say. It's cool. Well, this is like also your thing of like, like the way you really know you're in a

relationship is because that's you have someone to text when you like, like take off and land. Oh yeah. Yeah. And that's really like the relationship thing. And when you're not in a relationship, you either text no one or your mom. Yeah. That's Natalie's joke and idea. That's really.

Well. Board is taxi. Yeah. Why? Taking off. Yeah. My mom gets those texts and she's like, okay, let's be dating. You can just text her tomorrow and say where you are.

I made it. Right. Exactly. Right. We de-played. Yeah. Shut up. My back hurts.

All right. Go off. Waiting for my bag. They made me gate check. Exactly. I don't care. I love it. So this is if I were you, the only advice podcast on the internet hosted by Jake and I and usually

it's just me and Jake and today we have two very funny guests with us. We rarely have two guests. Yeah. I know. Well, I know. Yeah. Because well, I know the podcast, but also because when we came in, we're like, where should we sit and everybody was kind of like, well, we've never had two guests before.

And our studio is also shallow. Yeah. Yeah. People were pretty stumps on it. Yeah. We're at capacity. Yeah. But that's fine.

God forbid there's another guest. Right now. There's no way. We'd be toast. They'd have to be small and sit very like. Yeah. Or we could do laps. Yeah.

Those microphones. Laps and laps. Yeah. Laps and laps. That's a cool idea for a podcast. It's an amazing party theme for a podcast. Yeah. No, that's right.

Podcast is a funny party theme too. For sure. Everyone's laughed and you're making a podcast the entire time. Yeah. Everyone's like talking. Everyone's doing a Squarespace ad. Yeah. It's like Harry's Razor's blah, blah, blah.

This is also unprecedented. We got an email from somebody whose entire question is in the subject of the email. Oh. Usually like pontificate and wax poetic in the body of the email. It takes a long time to read. We got one succinct little question in one email subject. It's actually from a lady who we don't want to out, so we're going to give her a fake name.

Charlie, what should we refer to this lady as? Samantha. That's classic. Sam. That's too sweet. That's really good. All right. It came to me so easily.

It did. And it felt really right. I think you were channeling. I like my eyes go white. Samantha. Yeah. The question is, my boyfriend is probably addicted to weed. Is that bad?

Oh my God. Oh my God. Is that bad? Not bad. Yeah. I think not bad. Not bad. Not bad.

Not bad. Addicted to weed. Addicted to weed. That's really good. That's actually incredible. That's a really good sign. That's amazing. Great.

It sounds like you bagged a chiller. Where's the problem? Are you guys weedsmins? Getting high like every day. Oh my God. You really did turn four. I'm a cop. Weedsmins.

Weedsmins. Weedsmins actually really knew. Really? So you might be like 17. Oh damn. That's dope. Do you pass the duchy pug on the left-hand side of Puff Puff Pastile? I do smoke, but like a little less lately.

But I also often worry that I'm addicted to weed. So I can talk to this girl. Basically don't leave him. He needs you. He's not crying. He's trying to stand. He's trying to stand. Oh yeah.

Just because someone has a relationship with you. Yeah. You still think someone to text when it takes off, right? Yeah. I remember when I was in high school, potentially when you were two, it was all like, you actually can't get addicted to weed. I was about to ask. And that kind of changed a little bit.

But I, by the way, have had periods in my life where I'm like, maybe it's not like quote addicted, but it's like, I am doing this too much all the time every day. And that is maybe not amazing. We're getting into semantics, whether my body is chemically feeding forward or if I just literally want to do it all the time. Right, exactly. Well, dope people, like everyone reacts to weed differently, too. Like it makes me more anxious, so I don't really like it.

But there's a lot of anxious people who smoke and aren't anxious. Yeah. It costs them down. It's like somebody that I would want to be addicted to weed because they're addicted to being more normal. Right. Yeah. I kind of split the difference.

Be addicted to chilling the fuck out. Yeah. Are you addicted to just being cool? Yeah. I split the difference on that, and I'm anxious, and weed makes me more anxious, but then I still do it a lot. It's kind of a different way in between that. I'm like that too with like, coffee makes me more anxious, so I don't ever stop drinking

that. No, for sure. Yeah. I don't know. Every day, though, would you get high every day? I have, at times. Every day. Yeah.

Like my iPod stuck on replay. Yeah. Replay, lay, lay, lay, lay, lay, lay, lay. Yeah. That should be your last joke. You should die. Do you guys know Ayaz? The song Ayaz?

It's called Replay. I have advice. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Whoa, this is also unprecedented. I just came up with the idea of like someone had a problem, like why not actually give a sort of... Okay.

Yeah. Right, right, right. I usually feel too uncomfortable to go for it. Yeah, of course. By the way, I'm going to overstep. All right. Well, it sounds like the problem is that you're not feeling connected when he's smoking. And so maybe you need to be a little bit either more involved in it or find a high activity

to do together. Oh, yeah. Get into a puzzle. It's like, is the problem that he's getting high all the time, or is that when he gets high, he's like watching commercial compilations on YouTube without you. His life is perfect. Your advice is to get high as much as if not more. Yeah, match up.

Match up. Right. Sounds like you're behind a little bit. But that's kind of it. I think every single problem... The problem is that you're not addicted to it. Right. All the problems that come into our show can be solved by communicating.

Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That's... And like, that's exactly... Like, communicate, connect, find a way that the boyfriend can still smoke weed and you can be fine with it. Right. Right.

Maybe he's like... Like, it's like he needs his time to smoke weed alone. He also needs to smoke weed with Samantha as we've established. So maybe he needs to cut something else like school or like something else is taking up too much time. Totally. So quit his jobs. Arriving to work on time.

Right. I'm picturing him 15, by the way. Yeah. What about you guys? Let me just... I don't know how he's intaking this weed, but like if it's edible, you know, there's a difference between like, I come home and he's like sitting on the couch like ripping a bomb.

Yeah. Right? Like the whole place smells or whatever. Right. But if he's just like, eats a gummy or something. Yeah. A little clasper. Right.

Yeah. I feel like there's a dynamic to where it's like my boyfriend is addicted to weed. It's like, okay, that's like a boy who's like, you know, what you're thinking. Like it's like, okay, well, he's not, he's not being a man. Right? Are we feeling that? He's a boyfriend. Right.

I want him drinking a Scotch meat and yelling at the radio. Yeah. Okay. My boyfriend is addicted to weed. He's like, okay, well, he's not providing. Right. You know what I mean? He's playing video games.

No, exactly. Like he needs to be doing cocaine. Yeah. He needs to be going to work. Adult drugs. Yeah. I feel maybe there's a gender dynamic where it's like, if he had a high-powered job and weed was helping him maximize all of it.

Yeah, high-power. Right. Exactly. Yeah. He needs to be going to business meetings. Exactly. Coming home after several martinis. You need to be Don Draper.

Yeah. You need to drive home drunk from the city. Yeah. To the car sale. So we saw, the two options are find a way to connect while he's high or have him develop a drinking problem. A drinking problem. Yeah.

Right. Yeah. It's hard to be. It's hard to decide. Do alcohol and weed constantly at the same time. You sort of have to choose one lane. You need to pick a lane. Yeah.

Which is sad. It sucks. It's very sad. It's awful. There have been times in my life where I've really pushed up against that limitation. Oh, yeah. You've explored. Yeah.

Getting both. Again, freshman year of college, I was like, let's see what we can do with this. People always say that it's like. Yeah. The other. You were a double major. Yeah. With a double major.

With a minor. Very boundary breaking. Charlie. And people really respected it. Of course. They're like, wow, you can really have it all, huh? Yeah. Where did you go to school?

Yeah. Wow. Let's. Play that. Well, I went to, I'm just fine when you talk about how I went to Yale too. You didn't go to Yale. Well, not, I grew up in New Haven. Okay.

Like. Yeah. I feel like we both spent time in Yale campus. Yeah. What college were you in? Wait, whoa. Silliman. Silliman.

Very nice. You know what that one is? Yeah. Silliman. There's Trumbull. There's Danberry. Yeah. Yeah.

What are those dorms? Yeah. I attended all of them. Oh. You went to those dorms? I went to. Not recently. Not recently.

I did. Yes. Yes. I actually think my mom went to Silliman. Really? Yeah. So you would go hang out there? No, as a college student, I had a job at Chapel Sweet Shop, which I think was not around

by the time you got there. No. I don't know about that. Ice cream store on Chapel Street though. Sounds amazing though. Yeah. Right near the Starbucks. Yeah.

It's an Amazon Fire Stick store now. So they just, it's an AI chat bot sort of selling you. Oh, that was there when I was, yeah. Yeah. Actually, it's even Saturday. It's, it was, they were never able to rent the space. So like another store down the street just has like mannequins with dresses in it. So the store itself is an advertisement to another store a block away.

The downtown area there can be kind of grammar actually. Yeah. It's, and they try to hide it too. Like the Patagonia store just closed and they just like boarded it up with like a picture of another store. Yeah, that's true. And they're just like, there wasn't anything here, it's here now, but just kind of relax about that.

Yeah. Patagonia is going under. Are they really? I'm asking. Oh. They were too good to the environment. They need to adopt the Zara model. Yeah.

You actually weren't asking. You said it as a statement. Right. No, I remember that. But I thought, yeah, I don't know what I thought. That's awesome. You were testing. I was testing, yeah.

You said a thing and you were like, I wonder if people are going to be like, right, that's what we know. I actually thought everyone was going to laugh hysterically. I didn't have to say anything. That's my expectation. And then you guys followed up and I was like, why is everyone looking at it? I was concerned because I liked Patagonia. Yeah.

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I didn't know that was that actually was Mac DeMarco himself. Okay. Yeah. That was Adam. Yeah. Anything you guys, any wisdom you guys have to offer, we'll, I don't know, I mean, you went to Yale, you obviously have your shit together. Where did you go to school?

Northwestern. That's also really fucking good too. Jesus. Thanks guys. Damn it. I was hoping it would be like where Jake went to school or something. Where did I go to school? I don't know.

Fucking Moravian or some small ass school in Pennsylvania. I never graduated. So it just dropped out. Yeah. Any unsolicited? Yeah. Well, this is something that's like kind of sincere, which is my advice is I recently stopped sleeping with my phone in my room and I got like a little alarm clock and it

actually is amazing because I really bad like impulse control. Always grabbing what you think your phone is and it's not there anymore. Exactly. And so instead of spending a lot of time scrolling in my alarm clock, kidding. Nah. It's impossible. That's a good joke. Thank you.

Mine. Mine. No, I want it. Dips. Dips. Dips. Dips. Dips.

Dips. Dips. Dips. Dips. Let me try it right now. I'm scrolling in my alarm clock. The head gum happy hour tonight. Yeah.

Good opening. Well, maybe the best man wins. We race to get it out. So when do you where do you put your phone in then like how much time do you spend in your room before you pass out? I like put it in the living room, kind of before I go to bed. And then I like you know go to bed and I read like two pages of a book and then try to fall asleep.

Yeah. Fitfully, for like an hour. phone and waking up must be better too because you're not instantly yeah and you know the thing is like I had such a hard time waking up because I'd be on my phone forever and now I wake up pretty easily because I want to check my phone I gotta get to that that's really smart you're just grabbing it you're like right 48 minutes of your day yeah exactly it's like really not it was really like I was late all the time and now it's an amazing incentive to get up

no phone in bed is a good yeah it's a good rule that I definitely will not do totally that's a really good rule yeah I sometimes do phone and laptop in bed that's really good and I've had yeah I've had a desktop watches both vibrating on your face I always think about like what my dog must think of like me just like walking around holding a brick just like walking at a candy bar yeah sitting down and look at my dog notices like he's so engaged we're like we'll play with each other you know throwing a ball whatever and then I start looking at my phone and he just like and I'm still throwing the

ball like I'm doing and he's like no you're not present like yeah he punishes me pretty yeah like where are you yeah okay so we can have eight minutes of fun yeah yeah okay is it that important what's going on on Instagram it always is Instagram it's not like I'm not like responding to anything interesting Natalie yeah okay my advice is I think like when you're like at dinner with someone and you're trying to figure out what to talk about it's good you should play a game oh I'm a big game person and I feel like you say you're a big game hunter yes that's shooting big animals right yeah I love

to shoot like a lion yeah like an elephant right Cecil the Ryan was you you run that trip yeah I killed Cecil and that's how I got this podcast and we what we do on the podcast is we talk about Cecil dying is that the one who Jimmy Kimmel cried about yeah that actually didn't work for no no he cried about that line okay yeah yeah he cried about both he cried about the sun that was like shout out yeah yeah yeah what's an example of a game you can play at dinner okay I like to play this game where it's like I'm gonna think of someone that we both know and then you play 20 questions to guess who it is oh it's fun

because it has some like gossipiness to it because they're like are they funny and you're like no I think yeah so that's kind of fun that's a great better than your shitty ass fucking yeah I read that in a promoted ad on under an article yeah I'm gonna put I'm gonna say this on the pop wait I'm gonna go back to that for a second because I did something where I bought a sun lamp you guys know yeah like gradually yeah it gradually like the sun rises if you set your alarm for like eight the sun from the lamp will start rising at like six or whatever and then you're supposed to like wake up and

then I started wearing an eye mask the sun gradually right as I do not see any of it and I wake up with my alarm clock shocked to be awake I did one my unsolicited advice one time was an eye mask because you wear one yeah I do it changed the way I sleep it's so yeah this is like my first week oh yeah so do you remember your first week I do I used to like get up and I just thought that I like oh you know I wake up and I have to pee in the middle of the night but I never actually do wait now literally that's exactly what I'm experiencing yeah anymore in the

middle of the night because you're wearing an eye mask well it turns out I was I thought I was being awoken by having to pee right yeah but I was like gonna be like okay I'm not drinking water after five like I was about to do me drastic yeah and then but then no it turns out it's like you're just kind of awake already yeah it's like the city is not somewhere right you wake up then you notice yeah yes that's definitely true okay literally that's such a slave for us and I wish you guys could connect you know yeah I'm not really an eye mask guy but maybe you have a picture month though you have a grind guard I love my

whole yeah I want to block every year yeah actually I've been doing breathe-right strips to not oh where are you gonna get tested for a deviated septum I did and I didn't get tested for that what they say my septum is not deviated whatsoever really the issue is my like open my nasal cavity valves or whatever like there's not a lot of opening yeah small and constricted so breathe-right strips is like a way of like expanding curtains does it work in theory it should but I have to practice nose breathing during the day so that I breathe through my nose at night because I breathe through my nose during the day

and then so at night I'm just like wait mouth open breathing wait I love when they're like it's like in theory it works it's like yeah yeah I don't breathe through my nose during the day no and so your mouth is open right now it's kind of like open slash talking slash I'm getting enough air yeah I'm like I'm a mouth breather that's correct and then when I try to like look around like sometimes that like like when we were at dinner last night are is anybody just sitting with their mouth closed just like this was anyone like an hour straight that's right I would die let me ask you knows correct breathers because that is

what you're supposed to do during a movie mouth closed the entire like two hours straight never like airing it out like there's no bad breath I actually don't know yeah I mean like maybe there's another thing you don't pay attention to tongue posture I found out recently I don't want to have it resting at the top of your mouth resting at the top how does that even work doesn't gravity lower your tongue to the bottom of your right resting at the top makes your mouth closed all the time but like they need to be maybe tongues are actually like helium filled that's a game changer my life is new now you're

supposed to have your mouth closed and to have your tongue resting at the top of your mouth I'm really scared to be thinking about what's the consequence try it because it feels right to be tongue on top mm-hmm it's just a better way to think there's that much room in there for it to be like a distinction between top and bottom I'm letting gravity do the work mouth open you know like what the consequences are for doing it wrong there's there's consequences to mouth-breathing yeah it's like snoring snoring and like poor sleep it's funny because it's like all these things that I don't have but like I maybe I'll

develop one day oh but you don't have any issues right now like gum disease because like you're constantly breathing out like air in and out of your gums shoot yeah and then at night like apnea because your mouth is open right you're not supposed to sleep well but I like sleep very deeply you're like a miracle they need to study you yeah but yeah breathe right strips like open it up and that's like I'm not gonna wear them all day and then practice nasal breathing during the day but I should maybe when I'm at home and then it convinces your brain that's like this is okay some people to teach themselves how

to breathe with their nose at night tape their mouth oh yeah I actually yeah exactly I actually saw tiktok that was like if you don't you don't even think your mouth breather tape your mouth shut and your life is about to become amazing I'm yeah I'm watching movies like a mouth open the whole time I bet yeah but you said that now and I'm like that sounds actually kind of right like I'm watching like rest oh my god actually can you breathe through your nose if your mouth is open I think it only exists when your mouth is closed no dude you don't know anything about the no can you like your tongue has to be closing it

you can't you can't have an open mouth valve and then you decide nose okay so keep your mouth at the bottom of your or keep your tongue at the bottom of your mouth so that your airway for your mouth is open and then try to breathe through your nose this is your pivot to cut off and then it goes through your nose as a second I'm sorry I was saying you were wrong no I like it I like to be wrong but we'll talk after the podcast all right enough about our noses and mouths most of your noses and my mouth yeah should we play your one of your games oh yeah you do it on dates is my question well it's fun when you know the

same people and I don't I wouldn't play a game on a date because that's like I'm like a first date but I wait to like kind of trap the games yeah but you do you do even simpler games like waiting in line for something you know it'll be like what number am I thinking yes my one of my friends and I during COVID like early early lockdown played a game over text that was what number am I thinking like four no 74 no I like this and you know yeah actually you play a game you like to guess people's birthdays yeah I'm a good birthday so why don't you try to guess okay is it astrological at all for you or I don't know anything about a

straw okay I'm strictly numbers scientific I think astrology is kind of a hoax but like my ability to nail down like sort of vibes that I'm getting okay absolutely real right he I've seen it get close many times I've ever actually gotten one so I didn't think I have until recently I went to a party and someone's like we met before cuz you bet guessed my birthday yeah and I'm like wow I bet you could guess a lot of things about that person then right if I already if I'm getting you know now the pressure is on yeah August 5th that's yeah I deserve a warm-up yeah you do you're like closest friends and family

and you're like almost right okay I'll start Natalie yeah obviously yeah what if I'm totally wrong what bad I'm nervous about like the shape you were just making well I'm just breathing I'm I'm sensing I know you're gonna get it right really yeah I can tell Jesus I don't know why I'm saying yes no no no you wouldn't I'm like going through the months over your head and I'm trying to see which one fits the best yeah you're gonna get it really no actually yeah it's sort of a long shot even getting the month I don't think it goes with me that well oh I see cuz like I was not having a summer vibe like you were not I was not okay you're

right about that so it's not cuz I was thinking like I'm actually you can't do like I would never guess like July 15th for you that doesn't you wouldn't I would not yeah that's totally not you're really gonna guessing what someone's not yeah okay so you're actually good cuz I was thinking like okay I'm kind of like peppy and sweet and like amazing yeah you're dark you're right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no totally not like totally right yeah but like sort of winter adjacent kind of like November 11th shoots and not really at all you want to guess let's see who's closer when she said it was it was incongruous I was

thinking October so October we were both getting fall yeah was my was the one that was in my head but now it feels like it's a spring thing oh interesting well I didn't like that face let's go October 9th no sorry it is a spring thing that's why you don't oh my god when that's why she's never done the taxes cuz she's celebrating her birthday April 15 no you guys the socks it's March 24 March 24 it's fine yeah I don't like it that much yeah that's a good one actually my brother is 324 right around there all right that's right moving on to Charlie now this one's tough oh I really I want you to get it like perfectly spot-on and god

you just about the exact way I want myself June 4th no out of the fucking but there is something about that that is right holy shit all right Jake with that in mind that might be a little bit hard let's go it does did you not know I don't really know people's birthdays yeah and I know yours about that right it's got it now I know January right or July 6th really close that's really close really yeah wow it's cuz it was the four it was the four yeah you actually yes you totally got that you guys are smart as well yeah that's that Yale rubbing off yeah growing up in East Rock you're like okay can I say the actual day yeah April 11th April 11 my

I think you guys are close yeah we are we're both yeah I actually get a little like Aries very good we both are yeah when my birthday ends and it's time for Charlie to start talking about what he's gonna do for his birthday it is a little hard for like when you have to throw the Christmas tree away like I'm like so it's really fucking over it'll be also like now they will do like a fun bar thing for her birthday and I'm like yeah I don't want to do like a bar thing for my birthday yeah right it's intense and like one day my birthday was like rainy yeah and you were like I really hope mine doesn't rain I was kind of like well I don't always get like

exactly like there's not enough turnover time for me to cleanse the palette and be like I can I'm ready but move on by the time it comes yes I do love your birthday yeah well yeah it's okay it's always sunny we never do a boring bar thing yeah are you guys the same age like when you turn that age no I'm a year older so you turn an age and then he's not even there and then I'm like you'll see yeah actually what happens is usually tries like I can't believe I'm this age I'm like already yeah I'm like call me when you're 28 27 yeah yeah no problem yeah yeah I thought 27 was old yeah I do it was

awesome because then you still got several years in your 20s yeah so far away from death you're super close to death I'm 40 yeah yeah that's midlife would you say right 40 is what I thought old people died at yeah these to die but now I mean God forbid we're gonna live to be like 260 yeah we'll be begging for death yeah I read that the first time to be 500 is alive right now are you serious yeah they know who it is to adorable yeah it's some 400 year old nurse perfect health yeah she's still doing gymnastics and shit God I would kill you to be dude really serious what to breathe through my nose my teeth

will be gone shortly they're already whittling down seriously a movie goes by mouth closed the entire time I believe so I think perfect pot posture is one where it's like they're like you're supposed to stand like this I'm like if you want to get beat up like you look like a loser like who sits like that like be cool I know right my lower back will hurt in 20 seconds right perfect to you and they're like well because we are at computer it's like we're all slumped it's like you know we're at computers our bodies are adjusting it's good actually yeah evolution yeah we used to run all the time and not our

shoes it's like now our feet are soft and our backs are round and our shoes are awesome and our shoes are amazing and I have Uber Eats right I don't need to hunt no exactly yeah we're at odds though I do evolutionary big game hunter yeah that's right that's more for fun and for rugs yeah rugs with a giant head on it we should have shown up today with like a big fucking lion rug for you guys oh my god that is awesome like I shot this no no no and then try to be like oh this is nothing oh my god this we just got this it's like whatever we have like a million of these at home seriously you're doing us a favor

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asshole this was actually a really sweet moment for me and my wife and you're trying to make a joke of it I was just being goofy a little bit like yeah this is how I told my grandma she was pregnant yeah yeah kind of like a she misheard it or something like that or the way you said it was kind of like could go either way by the way Jill's Jill's grandma is pregnant oh my god Jill's grandma is 90 and pregnant it's pretty cool and you told me with a digital photo frame holy smokes and we let her know with an aura yeah thank you the aura announcement so you can instantly frame photos from any device anywhere and

invite the whole family in on the fun through the aura app add me to your aura app I'd love to upload just a picture of me like at a pool or something that could be funny yeah like your banana or your dog alongside pictures of my daughter yeah yeah exactly even preload photos and add a personal video message that will display as soon as your dad or anybody connects to the frame yeah it's a great gift a really really iconic gift and right now you can save on the perfect father's day gift and visit aura frames that's a you are a frames dot com mm-hmm and our listeners can use code head gum to get up to $30 off plus free

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want to guess the same but you would have had a reaction to that yeah if it was March 24th I would have fucking flipped out yeah but that is what I'm feeling so I'm it's clouding it okay but I'm gonna say something else okay and you guess July so I don't feel like it's that yeah or it is that you're projecting interesting July 4th 21st no but it is something right about you said July 21st yeah okay back to me September 12th that's a really good guess really no it's January 18th so almost my birthday okay that's what I was picking up on what by the way was your birthday like a second ago yeah last week that's why

they are right now yeah that we could have picked up yeah yeah that puts the map we can tell you're going through something that's awesome that's cool that you hear that because I hear you turn 40 and then you start dying yeah like a living living living living right and then your body's like this is as far as we can get yeah you peek physically yeah you peek physically like more in your 30s yeah you've been on the decline for a few years yeah I mean I'm on the decline you know I have this idea okay that we were just talking about on our podcast that basically like something like when you're on a trip

it's like only fun once enough of the trip has already happened that you've made enough memories that it's like it could we had a good trip yeah and then you start enjoying yourself and the rest it's just like you're like okay now we can chill have fun and I feel like maybe that's the vibe too it's like okay you've lived enough life you've done it and now you're like okay this is just chill you don't have to wonder about like what it will be yeah you're like okay this is it yeah like you kind of settle in basically all of your good memories you've made already so now you have the rest of your life to kind of think about

how good the trip was right reminisce but it's actually not it's then that's when actually the trip happens and you because it's like on the airport on the way back you're like oh my god like remember the trip but then actually something really fun happens and like duty free I'm obsessed with when things are over it's like my favorite I love when things like already happened God bless you because you like to reflect on things because I just like I hate anticipation and while something's happening I honestly don't like it that much I love when things have already happened but that's all I've heard the

opposite where it's like the planning of the trip is more exciting than the trip itself I have holy shit it's the anticipation and we're planning and it's happening and then it's like we're at the airport and then it's like after that it's like yeah I'm the opposite like I'm all looking forward to a trip even like while I'm on the trip while I'm actively on the trip like we were in Italy this summer like riding bikes through Italy best thing you could be doing I was like we should go to Portugal we should go to Portugal it's true that like whatever happens in your brain when

you're riding a bike through Italy like if you can't reach Nirvana like that's your issue right whatever comes to you in that moment like it's much pressure oh my god to be on a trip and like you invested all of this time in it and then you're there and it's like it has to be perfect like I can't capture all of it I get it you're like we need to go to Portugal this is like when you get to a restaurant you're like this is the most exciting part of the day and then you leave and you're just like I feel right it's all about the waiting and the getting there yeah or the drive to Vegas and then the drive away or like to

completely opposite things yes the drive there when you drive with a group of people I'm sorry we had to get to know that's correct it's exciting moment and then the drive when you leave or like I'm never it's silent in the car like you know what I mean when you're like with like a group people you're going on like a friend trip and everything snacks whenever in the drive back everyone's like even the drivers texting into a wall they did that well in the the movie swingers if you guys have seen that baby Vegas and then on the way back to dead inside yeah during the day in 112 degrees out all right another question

right enough already mm-hmm we have to shut up I want to oh here we go kind of similar to the tax stuff this is a question from a dude oh so Natalie have a dude's name oh yeah Rick that's awesome Rick that's a good name Rick yeah although ultimately his name is Richard which is not a good name well we have a Richard that we love I love Richard back off ever call him Rick never have that yeah we roll it out yeah as we know Rick Fox yeah Ricky Van Veen yeah we know a Ricky are those friends or singers singers singers both both singers amazing singers must have bands each of those yes Ricky Fox and Ricky

Van Veen yeah that's exactly right Ricky Fox I haven't heard this kind of question asked before so I figured I'd throw it at your way for some input I'm a 34 year old guy in the Northeast okay all right happily married with a baby well together 34 my god what should I do when I see my friends and family members continue to make poor financial decisions I don't have an I sorry I have an intense interest in personal finance with the goal of retiring early so I'm helping my parents with their retirement as well and during a meeting with a certified financial planner he literally told them you don't have to pay me to do

anything just listen to your son how cool this question I'm not so humble it's like in fact I quit my job and your son will do it for me unless he's already retired anyway I don't need your advice how come other people suck the principles are simple but few people have the diligence to see them through you have to work out just like in a gym save and invest you absolutely have cheat days splurge purchases but if you do that all the time you're not really making progress towards your goal and can end up putting on extra pounds aka debt he's comparing it to like wow personal physique which how can I help

with their financial fitness without coming off as an asshole thanks love Rick this sounds like it was from Rick yeah this is a major Rick energy this guy is not sitting right with me I'll be real with you Patrick Bateman to me I'm like a weight loss analogy is like one of the worst things you could choose because it's like fuck that yeah I mean he's like why can't you just not eat and like work out in the morning it's like because it's horrible like it's fun to spend money right more than you have totally so his question is not how do I be financially literally how do I give financial advice advice on giving advice

kind of one thing I would say is that anything can happen and that any kind of horrible financial misfortune can befall anyone and maybe he needs to actually learn from people who are in worse situations than him because you never know wow he could lose his job into horrible car accidents where everything's fine physically but financially very bad and then he's gonna be like oh I have this all planned out but now my life isn't going that way he's actually a little bit out to sea yes and he's gonna then be reaching out to those people who are in that kind of situation so I think really nice story

slash tail mm-hmm but it'll never happen this way this guy is too controlled he's dreaded to he'll never he's hot right doesn't say if he's 6'4 I think he's 6'5 because he used to play college football oh tight end tight end when a man and I'm sorry but get ready when a man talks about diligence it's like go away you gotta go away because you're being weird and you're freaking me out like when men are like use your mind power to just be disciplined it's like well you're gonna build a bomb and you're gonna do something weird yeah I mean yeah I do think diligence is a weirder word than

willpower power feels like the capacity to suffer diligence is like I do the same thing every day yes like that makes me feel kind of uneasy for a 34 year old to say the word diligence is is odd totally he's in the northeast he's happily married in the northeast red flag it's interesting the mentality of like he has it all together and he wants to what force that on other people that's right he wants he's already doing it with his parents isn't that enough yeah no he wants to help others he wants to help he wants to see his people struggling with finance I think oh oh no please no please no please I just feel

all of it for all these questions it needs a woman's touch so I think that he needs to be more empathetic if you want to help if you want to help you know you can't be such a weird guy yeah I think it I think helping should come from a place of like not you're doing it wrong but basically like I am open for business I my finances are looking good I'm really confident this if anybody needs help come to me yeah so like all of your help should be incoming not I just noticed that you do you least uh you least an Audi yeah car loan situation yeah blah blah blah yeah so don't like inject yourself where people

because other people might think they have it under control and there's nothing more frustrating than being like I got this and somebody else coming and be like you're doing it all wrong like you can't actually control other people and like and this is a guy who clearly wants to control everything he wants to control all the things in his life and it's like you have to let some of that go yeah and other people you other people and by the way it's like some people make a calculated decision they're like I don't want to save money I don't know what's gonna happen in the future I want to buy $400 pants I'm

gonna do it now yeah and it's a value system and you have to respect that and if also I've seen people like that buy expensive clothes and I'm like oh I think that might be done but then they like sell they sell them yeah people buy and trade where people see oh you're wearing $400 pants do you want to be on TV or something like that yeah this is the only pair of pants I need for a year well I buy $76 pants from Abercrombie and Fitch every two and a half weeks and that's not a better way to do it's not better or worse it's worse I think you should just go right there where they always are

you can buy clothes for $9 you can and you just throw them away I think if you everyone everyone doing something that you think is done financially is born rich and that will that will like curb your right you know you're itch to talk to them yeah yeah like oh my god what are they doing oh they have a trust fund right that's probably fine yeah maybe this guy needs that thing like you know when like the school psychologist is like knows that kids won't want to talk to them so they like have like a bowl of candy and like soda yeah like maybe he needs just like a hang zone get a beanbag like bubblegum machine yeah get

like a little Nintendo that's behind a plexiglass wall controller sticking out yeah yeah play with gloves yeah it's what they have at the orthodontist a treasure trunk with toys you should give his friends and family like a thousand dollars each he should just be oh yeah that's for security yeah exactly but there's some strings I have to write this off my taxes as a gift donation right exactly I mean some people are born rich but it sounds like this guy's born Rick come on I'm serious that wasn't even a joke it wasn't funny

no you guys come on funny so he was actually born Rick his name is Rick we have fun on this show but this guy was born Rick it's his birthday March 9 out fucking powerful this guy was born Rick I'm born Rick free as the Rick Rick his name is not actually not Rick I you gave him that name I was we know fuck it let's out Josh so why do you guys do the fake name because we usually want to preserve these people's anonymity but at this point let's out his email his email is on here do not believe this shit any person who messages who wants financial advice yeah Josh and then his last name I'm not gonna say but it

starts with the letter M really fucking close and I won't say how but like know that it is like M blank blank blank do not believe this something s we're playing fucking wordle with his last name yeah and then it's an obvious one other letters s can you give us one of the vowels yeah yeah it's it's a you you yeah months no more more ease no more how many vowels there we're gonna get the whole let's get a wordle board up on his gmail oops I said gmail I mean it's obviously yeah we all knew it was a G for sure I mean this guy it's like at CNBC yeah I don't think so Charlie just did a joke on our show about his social

security number and gave away a couple of the numbers and actually people on tiktok got really close because the joke is like my social security numbers like so funny and I can't say what it is but I'm gonna give the vibe of it and I'm like haha and then like on tiktok people are like is it this I don't know and literally anything like I'm like oh my god you can't give away your social security number meanwhile like you guys definitely have it you know what I mean oh yeah yeah like yeah what can I do if I call what and say I'm you and my social security like they need more than that right a little bit more age kind

of but I bet all the stuff they need is online for Charlie right they also have it yeah your address yeah they got it your vibe right yeah that's in that my particular is having a good enough vibe that nobody would want to do that to me right that's the protection right exactly I don't want to be a cool guy no he's being so nice sweetheart yeah let's skip it yeah exactly they probably need your birthday which I also have at this point I made up that little game to get to know you more exactly 11 1996 5 your identity is gone and you're like I'm tricking you to tell your birthday and you're like what's the year I'm like 1995

and I got you yeah that's for digits of the social security number are I feel like this is how psychics work they're like yeah talking a little bit of information they're like and the mother's maiden name is all right so ultimately don't force your advice on other people but if they're willing to come to you yeah just you you clearly make it known that you're good at finances yeah and when people are in a show yeah you don't go out you didn't find Rick and say listen you need to change but you said come to me and I'll help your problem right and I think I think we really help I think we really

I don't know we semi-doxed him and that's probably we gave out a lot of his information yeah which also comes you for advice you're like listen I gave everybody your credit card number that was a literal week of information you said his first name his last initial the last letter of his last name the middle one gmail yeah let's just see how financially secure he is serves you right oh someone liquidated your assets well I guess you're not so financially secure we're sort of the jokers in that regard right yeah right with the Ben towards justice yes exactly some people just like to watch the

world burn yeah you guys like dark night yeah not enough to engage that was like that that was did you like that or I don't think I saw it no I didn't see that I watch everywhere everywhere all at once last night oh yeah would you like I liked it everything I know it starts like that I was watching last night really yeah watch it twice a day why so serious all right that's it that's our time I think this one yeah I had an amazing time at a great time we laughed yeah we don't think the retrospective thing of like looking back yeah looking right now we can have fun yes I wish it wasn't over we love when

things that if you guys really like the show you can have it so much instead of us you guys want another episode it would be yours going forward you want to swap pods let's do it that's cute our premise is we it's weak what's your what's your premise oh yeah exploration live sorry come in a headgum what's the elevator going the elevator pitches we each bring three ideas in there are three best ideas of the week and okay an example of an idea that you bring in like a product an idea no it's like the sleep mask something okay but we've said a few of them like what was the one I brought up wait this

is one that I actually want to share because it's feeling important to me mm-hmm I've been bringing up a lot but I have this idea that bangs only exists in the future and the past and whenever you see someone wearing bangs like they're actually a memory of themselves or like a flash forward because bangs really only exists to show the passage of time unless someone has bangs their whole life this is bombing only silent because I'm really it's like a stunning idea right I'm I'm floored I don't think I'm smart enough to understand what you just said okay that's fine she watched everything everywhere all at once I was thinking

about one which is like the thing of when you have a group of people who are sitting down at a table and like the quiet implicit like negotiation of where everybody sits and like that moment wait and yeah and your thing with that is like when you hang back yeah wait what was it okay I had this experience a few weeks ago at a birthday where I was like as I'm walking there I'm like I know I'm gonna sit next to this person like this person's bringing their significant other and I'm gonna sit next to them and that's not what I want to like do I get there early so I can like stake out right that's the kind of or is

that like leaving me vulnerable that you like have some option but not so much that those options window because if you go too early you lose the controls like musical chairs I want some settling I sat down next to one person on my right that I wanted right but everyone pushed all the way like kind of leaving the other half of the table open so it was like whoever comes next I know I'm sitting next to so I'm just like well yeah I hope I had something I knew and I ended up um I was the one yeah we were supposed to want to sit next to Emma but then when she arrived yeah no offense you don't care you don't care right she

loves when we talk about it yeah you knew that you could feel that yeah but you heard like when you arrived in everyone groaned yeah yeah right yeah and then I was like I'm gluten-free like yeah we already told the fuck later you are she's not you are no no one is it was a joke and it's funny I'm laughing I can't really get a word all right exploration live coming to head gum yeah but you can subscribe now even if this episode comes out so check it out yeah and go ahead you know what I mean do that yeah yeah sounds like a great show sweet thanks and thanks for coming on

the show oh my god thanks for listening and or watching right we're on YouTube now we're on YouTube we're on the YouTube I love YouTube Jake and I used to make videos for YouTube 1991 before you were born you can email your own questions or theme songs if I were you show at gmail.com that's right Natalie Charlie we'll be hosting this show so if you want to answer your questions you can't wait send them on now send them on down and the opening theme song also the closing theme song was that Mac mac demarco parody from Henry Guiles yeah Giles Giles or Giles what do you think I think Giles yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

who's Giles Rick Rick born what do you think for the title of this episode born Rick yeah I think it's nice I think it's really nice I think it's Rick I think it's Rick oh that's Rick all right we'll see you next week goodbye everybody bye