IHIP News - Elon's DOGE Left for Dead as Ex-Staffers Fear Criminal Charges

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

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Doge has completely closed shop as a surprise to no one. Everybody saw the public breakup of Kanks and Elon Musk, where Elon Musk basically says Trump is right in the middle of the Epstein files. Kylie put up the headline, Reuters is reporting that U.S. President Donald Trump's Department of Government Efficiency has disbanded with eight months. left to its mandate. Ending an initiative launched with fanfare as a symbol of Trump's pledge to slash the government's size, but which critics say delivered few measurable savings.

That doesn't exist. Office of Personal Management Director Scott Kupor told Reuters earlier this month when asked about Doge's status. You guys, it was all a ruse from the very beginning. It was a transactional agreement between two criminally minded parasites. And these parasites are Donald Trump and Elon Musk. And these guys are not geniuses that created all of this shit. These guys are parasites who know how to fleece hardworking people and consolidate wealth

for themselves. These are not philanthropists. These are not big minds. These are con artist hustlers. And the agreement was as follows. Trump said, I need money or I'm going to go to prison. And Elon Musk said, I need you to win or I'm going to go to prison. Okay.

Well, here's our deal, mutually assured destruction. I'll give you $300 million if once you win, if you give me the keys to all of these departments that are investigating me. And during the Biden administration, Elon Musk and or his companies were under a multitude of investigations. Trump gave this criminal the keys who then goes into the federal government and shuts down all of these investigations into himself. They don't like each other. It was transactional. They have mutually assured destruction. And of course, this whole thing was a ruse.

And here's what's so sad about this, Josh. And Josh is subbing for pumps this week. She's on vacation. A lot of these people that work in government are not looking to be wealthy. They're looking to just live a normal life. They get a government job. They have job security. They make, you know, $75,000 a year, maybe more if they're lucky.

They get a couple weeks paid time off. And they have health insurance. These are not deep state freaks that are trying to, fuck over the American working class. They are the American working class. That's right. And one of the aspects of this story also are there are all these employees of Doge that are all just sort of now holding the bag saying, hey, we got all this information. Well, let me tee that up here.

Josh is exactly right. Politico is reporting the following. Suddenly exposed Doge employees fear prosecution after Musk. Abandoned them. And here's an excerpt, and then we'll get Josh, he's a criminal defense attorney, we'll get his take on this. Noting that the Doge staffers have, quote, lived with the ever-present threat, a backlash, public scrutiny, upset cabinet officials, even the prospect that someone might assert criminal charges against them. The report notes that there is a growing sense of dread that Musk will no longer champion them if they are subject to investigations.

quote, Musk had not been just their visionary leader. For them, he was their protector, the man who had a direct line to Trump, who they believed could pick up the phone and secure a presidential pardon if the worst came. Without his presence in Washington, they were suddenly exposed. Politico is reporting before adding that a recent gathering, a senior Doge figure named Donald Park tried to reassure his colleagues that they were still, quote, brothers in arms and that Musk would continue to protect them. That led to another protesting and advising guys, seriously, get your own lawyer if you need it. Elon's great, but you need to watch your own back. Isn't that just sort of typical of the grift that we were talking about earlier? So you have all of these sort of ponds in your circle that are out doing all of this work and the people at the top, the wealthy, once you've fleeced and gotten everything that you need out of it, they're left, again, holding the bag and these guys, I don't know, kids, I remember a point in time when Trump was first elected that government employees were sort of bitching about getting these emails, about how these 25-year-old kids are sending these emails out saying, hey, what do you do in your department? Are you essential? You know, and then they went and got all this private information of government employees, and it was questionable as to legality of all of that stuff. And so now, they're just there like okay whoa where's our cover and there is to ask you this it is I have long

suspected because all of these investigations into musk and or his companies have disappeared if these doge crackheads went in and deleted evidence or deleted these investigations that is criminal and the fact that they are so incredibly worried about lawyering up and being left holding the bag It tells me everything I need to know about the nefarious actions of Doge further supporting our hypothesis that this was a means for both Trump and Musk to avoid prison. And I think they're concerned, though, is not so much grounded in criminal exposure right now because you would have to have a Department of Justice that would be interested enough to peel back the layers of what they did and want to prosecute that.

I don't think it's that as much as it is. What if Trump's not elected in three or four years and you peel back the layers? the layers of all the evil, diabolical shit, surely the Democrats are going to learn not to appoint another Merrick Garland to be the attorney general. And so there would be a real concern if Trump didn't just issue blanket pardons to every Doche employee that, hey, I did a lot of crazy shit here that I was told to do that I thought maybe was legal, but I was caught up in this bro dick-secking moment of Elon Musk. And so I did it. And now I have a little bit of regret about having done. Okay. Let's play this scenario through. Let's say that, uh,

the midterms, despite Republicans' best effort to gerrymandered, chie, blah, blah, blah, is a huge blue tsunami. And then you have a Democratic Congress and Democratic Senate. And then you have oversight. And you have investigations into the activities of what Doge did. Of note, it's interesting that Marjorie Taylor Green was one of the chair of the Doge committee. Right. And now she's pulling out.

Right. But one thing that we can say now, though, that Trump has now set the bar that if a Democrat comes in and doesn't investigate all the things he did with the same vigor that he's done. And I think that's their concern is now the bar has definitely been set by Trump. He's going after everybody. So everyone that's in his administration that's doing things that are arguably illegal, just be on notice that it's going to get looked at. See, I hope you're right that the Trump set the bar for the Democrats to have this thirst to come back in and fight for justice. but I have little hope sometimes in the Democrats' ability to fight because their default setting is to allow Republican talking points to define them or to have Republicans caged them in a way where they will be seen in not an appealing way. And they default to all this integrity shit.

And if they don't fight, then I'm going to move to Nigeria and open up a fuck Democrats account and start blasting them every single day. Okay. Moving along, this is, imagine you guys, okay, the hypocrisy within the MAGA movement, we could be a 10-year, daily two-hour podcast episode. But here's something I think is really interesting. So you have the MAGA movement, which is inherently we're pro-life, we're pro-life, we're pro-life, we're pro-life. Of course, we know they don't find childcare, they don't find health care, they don't give a shit. Interestingly, Elon Musk has all, about breeding he's all about he's super concerned about the global population and that we're in a population decline right talks about it all the time there's he has something like 20 kids and there's there's been reporting that he's been over to japan beaten off into petri dishes over there and there's some some reporting that he could have over 100 kids so this is a deadbeat dad who gets in fight with his baby mamas on twitter all the time shows up to the white house hired in a kite on drugs all the time. And if he's so pro-life, pro-population, what's so

interesting about his work at Doge is put this up. The shutdown of USAID has already killed hundreds of thousands. His, the USAID was investigating Elon Musk and the workers at USAID and we received some mail here at the podcast from people that were abroad that worked for USAID. And their work was getting supplies, medications, and food to the poorest people in the world. And hundreds of thousands of people already done. Vaccines, AIDS prevention stuff. And it's interesting to me the hypocrisy that so many MAGA people live in. And it's just kind of default accepted. Oh, Elon Musk is concerned about global population. Also, Elon Musk killed hundreds of thousands of people.

Right. It's just hard to take. I have this memory of him with a chainsaw. And so it's just hard for me to take anything that that man has said as being serious knowing his conduct and behavior of when he was in office. But that particular agency that you've referenced, they provide a lot of humanitarian relief. And I think it's pretty much non-existent now. I think they're trying to very best to. And I think there's a question as to whether or not.

Congress has to actually shut it down or if the executive branch can do it itself. But it's, and it's shameful because I think they had, they had a huge like 30, 40, 50 billion dollar budget each year to help people. And they've stripped that away. It would be impossible for Pumps and I to report on the news without our ground news vantage plan. They are basically the Spotify of News. They tell you who owns each outlet, where this outlet, where this outlet,

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They're subscriber-funded, and our favorite part is that they are female-founded by subscribers. you're not only getting a tool, we all need today. You're also supporting our work. That's ground gRO, undy, news.com forward slash iHIP, and Kylie and Seth are linking that for easy access right below in the show notes. And the problem is a lot of that positioning that the United States did with USAID helped us with foreign policy as well. And when we pull out of these places,

then it helps adversaries move in. And it's just, it's unbelievable. I'm just going to say this again, that so many people who are so anti-immigrant, all of these Americans, have allowed a man who is an immigrant, which I support immigration. They've allowed a man who is an immigrant to come over and tell them,

they need to pay more in taxes. They need to breed. They need to suck it up with the economy. You're going to go through a rough time. And they take all this advice from an immigrant, because as a culture, particularly in Republican circles, they worship rich assholes overdoing the right thing, all in the name of Jesus, you know, the duplicity of that they go to church all the time, yet make all of this moral space for a man like Elon Musk, who would never be a trillionaire, ever without the United States tax worker that he clearly resents, that he clearly is so sinful. towards that he clearly thinks is so beneath him. This is a man who has all of this money. There's not one hospital being built. There's not one kind gesture towards humanity. He's

just an insatiable addict that wants to consume everything he can, including hardworking America's dignity and taxpayer money. And it's any, any sort of government responsibility or government agency that wants to help people, that wants to act like Jesus, you know, keep in mind all these Christians that control the right, like Jesus is their guy, and Jesus was an immigrant, and Jesus was full of compassion, and Jesus was full of forgiveness. And so any sort of, you know, government policy that helps people, they want to strip away, contrary to this fundamental belief system that they have about how they're supposed to live their day-to-day lives. and it just gets to be too much after a period of time.

I've just seen it strip down over and over and over. And the loss of this agency hurts a lot of people and was killed. Killed a lot of people and was doing a lot of really good work to help marginalized people. All right. 10 months in, 11 months into this administration, we're finding out it's all a hustle. It's all a scam. A scam to keep Donald Trump out of prison and to make him rich as shit, which I think he's already made something like $8 billion, a scam to keep Elon Musk out of prison so he could go shut down all of these

investigations into himself. And since Trump is one, he's now a trillionaire. Imagine doing a Nazi salute and then you get awarded by your company to the tune of a trillion dollars. It's breathtaking the corruption in the United States of America and the favoring of these immoral billionaires like Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Zuckerberg, Tim Cook and Larry Ellison and the worship of them and the debasing that so many people participate in to make sure they pay more in taxes so that these guys can get another yacht. Absolutely disgusting. Subscribe to our channel.

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