IHIP News - JD Vance Plotting Takeover as Trump Grows More Paranoid and Unhinged

Episode Date: July 23, 2025

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to figure out what's going on with the lawsuit between Rupert Murdoch and the Wall Street Journal and Donald Trump. We have a legal expert, Katie Fang. Welcome. Hi. Hi. Okay. So tell me the scoop about what's going on. You see Rupert Murdoch, who has just absolutely had his lips on Trump's a all these years. I mean, run propaganda media over Wall Street Journal publi And now he's suing the Wa

then we hear all this ste about J. D. Vance. So tell about the lawsuit that he was filed in the Southern District of Florida. And you and I were chatting a little bit about this idea of, I think Trump was probably hoping he was going to get Eileen Cannon as his judge, who we know just has been cowtowing to everything that he has wanted in terms of Donald Trump.

But here's what's kind of crazy is, it's a defamation lawsuit, right? And the lawyer I know who's suing on behalf of Donald Trump is debatable. And but the judge who got the case is a spectacular, freaking judge who used to be a state court judge that I know. Here's the thing. Rupert Murdoch of all people knows about defamation lawsuits, right? For a myriad reasons, but specifically because if you'll recall, he was sued by Dominion Voting

and they had to pay $787.5 million for defamation. So if you are being threatened with defamation by the President of the United States, you need to tell me that if you were kind of on the fence about whether or not you should publish this story, maybe you would err on the side of, I don't wanna pay the money if I don't have an idea if it's true. But the fence about whether or not you should publish a story, maybe you would err on the side of I don't want to pay the money if I don't have an idea if it's true. But the fact that they ran with this, as in the

Wall Street Journal, I think signposts for all of us in America that they got the goods and that they truly believe that they maintained a journalistic integrity when they chased this down before they published that letter. I don't think there's't think about it because reports w he was going to file a lo it happened. And then I r interesting that Steve Ba of footage on a documenta

Jeffrey Epstein, which I' and we know Elon Musk said in the abstin thing, which I think just like naturally. And we know Elon Musk said he's, you know, in the Epstein thing, which I look at him and I think that's exactly who I would suspect. But there was some link between. Maybe he was the one that alerted the Wall Street Journal and then

what I find fascinating is this whole JD Vance in the Wall Street Journal. So JD Vance meets with Rupert Murdoch hours before the Wall Street Journalance meets with Rupert M Wall Street Journal relea Epstein. And then Rick Wi has his ear to ground in that J. D. Vance went and

Murdoch about the successi I'm like, what is at play not seeing the full pictu I don't think. Yeah, it's definitely chestnut checkers, right? And Murdoch knows about secession, right? Because the entire show, Succession, was basically based on the Murdoch dynasty. But this is just more palace intrigue, but palace intrigue that we need to be paying attention to

beyond just the salaciousness of just how crazy this is, right? Because we've always talked about the threat of a JD Vance presidency. I actually used to have it pinned. I may still on that cessful of X. I may still have it pinned, but I talked about the threat of a JD Vance presidency

because it's constitutionally guaranteed. Meaning if Trump is out, incompetent, out, dead, whatever, and we've seen his cankles, so we know that it's physically a possibility. Right. JD Vance automatically becomes the president of the United States. It doesn't require congressional approval. It doesn't require some votes, whatever it happens, which is why we always need to pay attention to who your vice presidential candidates are in these races. But Vance is a little bit of a head scratcher because I totally believe

that he is so freaking Matthew Bellelen that he would totally plot the ability to take over the Oval Office, 100%. 100%, yeah. But the thing with Vance is he's younger, I think he's more nimble when it comes to intellect and he's clearly more craven than Donald Trump. Yes. The problem with Vance though

is he does not have the it factor. He has the ick factor as I like to say. Yes. He putting aside the couch stuff like there's just something that's not really cult like about JD Vance. In fact he just gives you ick and so even though Donald Trump gives you ick too it's just different right? He doesn't have that charisma. I think that people talk about Donald Trump, which I failed to see, but I understand other people say experience to whatever. Yes. And I don't think Vance could carry the day, but remember Vance doesn't really have to do anything, right? He doesn't have to win, run and win.

He's already there. He just has to get Trump out of the way. Right. And we know that he went to Peter Teals's Yosify camp where he came back and he looked better and he had the eyeliner and he's doing all this. So he is in deep with these oligarchs. And I'm with you. I don't think he has any Riz, but I think he's smarter. He's way more craven than Trump. And you know, everybody has used from Putin to the oligarchs, Elon Musk, all of them. He's a useful idiot. You say, oh, your hands are big. You're so athletic.

You're better than Obama and he'll do whatever you want. But with this crisis of Epstein, you know, is he now becoming a liability in their mind? I don't know. But I am hearing that he's extremely paranoid about Vance. And we know Donald Trump is the most paranoid person on the planet because he's out to get everyone. So he naturally assumes everybody's out to get him. So my thing is how far is Vance going to go down the rabbit hole on this if he's already

going to Fox News owner Rupert Murdoch in secret meetings. Like that has to strain this relationship. And Maggis already matters in a hornet about JD Vance. I'm seeing online like JD Vance is out to get Trump like, so what does Magga do if in fact, I mean, we all know Trump's incompetent. The 25th amendment would be a layup, but he'd have to work in those Magga circles to get, you know, hit Trump's people to approve of that. So it's like he has no charisma and then he bumps off the leader. Then what happens? What does MAGA do? I mean, what do you think?

Well, you've got Vance pouring kerosene on the conflagration, right? Like after this Wall Street Journal thing comes out, Vance, instead of just keeping quiet, which he's done before, right? He strategically timed his forward-facing commentary in the discourse about these issues that are a little bit spicy for Trump. In this instance, he was like, well, if you've got the letter, publish it Wall Street Journal.

And we're all sitting here being like, oh man, you really wanna burn that guy, huh? It's like the burn book, right? He's like, bring out the the b like bring out the burn b like he's all excited abo out. And so, but Vance is it. No, I think the proba the palace intrigue, it's

elegant way. If you're th it, I think it actually t I think it also makes people think he has this pre-existing relationship with Musk and Teal and Silicon Valley and the Brolygarks. He totally to your point. He's already connected with them. He's already tried to kind of break away

a little bit from Trump, and then he had to be reeled back. He kind of had to have like his wrist slapped with the ruler because he tries to get out there a little bit ahead of it. We saw that during the campaign, but he's kind of been biding his time. I think Vance has been biding his time on the sidelines, kind of nodding his head in agreement, but again, not getting super dirty in all of this, right? So stuff with like the immigration stuff, whatever. He's not really vociferous, is he? He kind of sits there and maybe drops a couple of words of encouragement, but doesn't like the immig whatever. He's not really He kind of sits there and of words of encouragement

shit on fire. People like maga truly wants. They wa total crazy. Sign me up a on louise energy going of or it's like or you're no about it. All the crazies Loomer, Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller. Like those people don't know moderate for shit.

But, and that's why I feel like that's what they want. And that's why, but you know, who's the true useful idiot is Donald Trump. Absolutely. He's the quintessential useful idiot for people like Stephen Miller. Oh, and here's the deal. Is there going to be a clash

between Stephen Miller and JD Vance? Because everybody knows Trump doesn't give a fuck about policy or what's going on. So Stephen Miller is running that show. So Vance's power starts to, you know, etch up. I don't see Vance and Miller working together. So I feel like that's really where the clash of the titans is going to. The rubber is going to hit th a cane and able event re

one of them is going to t legit. No, and it's becau huge dumb egos in the sam time. And that power vacu to your point though peop to Stephen Miller. I don' shit to JD Vance. No that's a great point. That is a great point. I feel like they think Miller is like the architect of all this amazing success for MAGA and I just think that they look advanced and they're like it's just couch fuckery with this guy.

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I'm Erika Alini, a reporter at The Globe and Mail. I help you understand how the economy affects your finances. I give you the big picture so you can make better decisions. If that's journalism you value, head to than Steven Miller. And, you know, parroting Hitler talking points all the way down the line. I mean, he's, he is absolutely, you know, talking about Empire State Building just recently because the immigrants were white I mean, there is no more white supremacy fucking Nazi than Stephen Miller

Like I am shocked at the shit that comes out of his mouth and JD Vance I have to remind everybody because she bothers me the most is married to Usha Vance Who's a freaking Indian immigrant. So it's like, you mean so that's the problem. JD Vance is handicapped in that way, right? Like as in like he has to deal with the fact that he goes home to an immigrant family with half immigrant children, right? I mean, it's kind of crazy if you think about it, but Vance can't possibly be all in to the MAGA agenda because not only he went to one of our bi-coastal educational institutions,

he purportedly comes from a background that used to be he was critical of Trump, he comes from a background that otherwise would be supportive of Democrats and he's married to a minority and his children are half of that minority. There is n to sit there and be able mago movement the way tha

So Stephen Miller lurking part of this administrati who has his finger on the and I'm telling you, I fe not be attributing all of this ki to J. D. Vance. Maybe it' Miller who are strategically on Donald Trump. You think

is there is no world where without a Donald Trump typ could not exist in a world where it wasn't just completely upside down because he is so vile and so craven and so diabolical. So I just think if Trump goes, Stephen Miller goes, because I just don't, he does not have the appeal. Are you saying?

Or maybe, listen, maybe Miller's like a Rasputin, maybe Mil leaders, right? Maybe, m time doesn't assert hims role but uses his influence guide those people, right to autocrat, fascist knowing that he gets, you know, he gets off on scratching those itches those perverse issues that he has and he could just do it through different useful idiots and if you're JD Vance

maybe you see the the kind of strategic power of keeping somebody like Stephen Miller in your pocket and that's the reason why you continue to do the Stephen Miller route because again that appeals appeals to the MAGA movement. And that's what keeps people like Donald Trump in power. I did a book event with Stacey Abrams last night and she said some she said all sorts of things on this. But the one thing that she said that it really kind of struck me is this. Donald Trump is that useful idiot. He is not the mastermind. He is not the one controlling all of the strings. And the elimination of Donald Trump does not mean that the movement ends. That's what the of the strings and th Trump does not mean that That's what the eliminat

That is the terrifying t we need to be focusing on Donald Trump does not mea does not die with Donald so ingrained in our Congu and into our ecosystem of that we need to be combating the movement, not necessarily the titular head. Well, and I agree with you. And here's the thing, he's the,

I mean, him being the leader is so easy to find flaws with versus somebody that was smart, intellectual, gave a shit, because he's, he's like a bull in a china closet. So if you get somebody in there that's calculating that's elegant, that's a lot bigger problem than the bull in the china shop that we've got with Donald Trump. And I did see part of that interview with Stacey Abrams and she is such a fantastic leader. She really is. She really is. She really is and and and one thing that she said to that that I'll say in parting is that there's there's no there's no failure here right? Like she's the first to say that she has publicly run for office and that she

doesn't define success by this by winning right? Sometimes success is just the running. Sometimes the success is she said adding chapters to the book right? It may not actually be finishing the, she said, adding chapters to the book, right? It may not actually be finishing the book, but you're adding chapters to the book. So I think about how we, you, Jennifer, everybody who's kind of pushing these conversations like we're doing here and in these spaces. We are adding chapters to that book. We are having these conversations to increase people's knowledge and to also make them think about what else there is other than just one person. It has now become so it's infected our world, this MAGA energy, and we have to detoxify ourselves. And to do that, we have to continue to talk about it. And we need to encourage n people to run for office

us make a difference in t so right. And I look at t and hopefully there'll be not in a vacuum seeing th and like the human rights americans feel that too. S much for coming on today. Always love to have you on again. You're so much fun to talk to.

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