IHIP News - JD Vance's Silence on Trump Team Catastrophe Is Telling!! With Don Lemon

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

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joining me today. Please welcome Don Lemon. Oh, my gosh. Wait, I thought you were talking about JD Vance. and all of media joining me today. Please welcome Don Lemon. Oh my gosh. Wait, I thought you were talking about JD Vance. Absolutely not. There's not enough eyeliner in the world for me to do that. But anyways, you don't need all the eyeliner that JD Vance does.

Okay, so the MAGA fallout, you have Alex Jones crying, Candace Owens, Megan Kelly, I mean all the right wing deplorables, even Benny Johnson. Oh, you got Benny Johnson, you've got Charlie Kirk who's done a 360. Remember Charlie Kirk was like, when Donald Trump reportedly, allegedly, he got a call saying, knock it off. And then he did a 180 and said, I'm going to trust my government, I'm going to stop talking about it. And now he's back to criticizing him again.

Well, and they bribe Elon Musk with the Department of Defense contract that lasted about 12 hours with AI and then he's back on it. But the person who is noticeably absent from this conversation who has had crystal clear clarity about it is JD Vance. Because before the election, he was raw raw, sis boom ball, let's release everything. So he goes on the Vons podcast. And I think this was in October. Is that right? I think it's October of 2024. I mean, that's why I said excited. I was reading your mind. That's why I said JD Vance when you said the most beautiful man I that was sarcasm. I was just being so I know

Yeah, I know it's you don but he did. Yeah, he went on and He was talking something. I think something about Conspiracy theories or people aren't always who you think they are or something and then Theo von said That's why they need to release the files and they started cracking up about it. Yeah, Seth. Do you have that clip? Yes, everybody in politics has a vice that's much worse than alcoholism, is the way that I put it. But we release the list. Seriously, we need to release the F-scene list.

That is an important thing. And then nothing. We've heard nothing from JD Vance. So what are your thoughts on it? So we're laughing about it. I'm laughing about it because it's laughable. I don't think it's funny, though. But I think I think that people in that position should be consistent about their beliefs and what they stand for. So if JD Vance, the JD Vance of October of 2024 believe that the files should be released,

then the JD Vance of, you know, the summer of 2025 should also be consistent in that they get away with too much. Ha ha ha ha ha. Their base doesn't hold them to account on any of it. But I do believe that this time, Angie Pumps Sullivan, I will tell you, I believe that this somehow breaks the spell. I don't know if it's going to be the end of Donald Trump, but I think it breaks the spell. And that certainly puts JD Vance in an interesting position. I don't know if it's a precarious position right now, because

people are like, Hey, JD Vance, why aren't you saying anything? But if something happens were to happen with Donald Trump where he was to fall out of favor or was not in office anymore, of course JD Vance would be the guy. Is that why he's not saying anything or is it just because of his normal hypocrite nature, his normal hypocrisy that he is just sitting there being silent because he doesn't want the heat from the MAGA faithful. See, I completely agree with you. And I think obviously he's a hypocrite. He has no conviction. He was pro immigration. Now he's the biggest racist on the planet. So he flip flops on everything. But I think he's sitting there going if MAGA goes against Trump, I am the heir apparent.

It's obvious he is in poor health. When you see his ankles, they're the size of my thigh. You see the way he talks. He can't put a sentence together. He is running around corruption out the gazoo. And JD Vance is sitting there in the perfect position. If Donald Trump loses favor in the 25th Amendment, him who get who reaps the rewards from that? JD Vance. Yeah, I think you're right about that. But also listen, you know,

I guess maybe JD Vance is playing three, four, five dimensional chess because you know, he's part of the allegedly reportedly part of the oligarchy and his ties to Peter Thiel and all of the folks who are, you know, in Silicon Valley, which is part of his history is where he came from, right, part of his career. But I think more than anything, Angie Pumph-Solvin, I'm not going against you, I think, you know, a couple things can be true at once. But I do believe that JD Vance will say and do anything to win and to stay in favor with Donald Trump. Remember, they complained about Democrats and about, you know,

the people who had Trump derangement syndrome calling Donald Trump, likening him to Hitler. Remember that? And the person who was the most vocal and outspoken about that comparison was the one JD Vance. And then when JD Vance found out that it was politically expedient for him to be a forever Trump or rather than a never Trump or he all of a sudden like many on the MAGA side or many of the grifters, they he changes his tune.

He does a complete 180. He does he does or he did and they do what Charlie Kirk did. Let's go to the side where we can grift the most and it's politically and career expedient. And I believe that's where JD Vance is right now. He knows and Donald Trump has said, shut up, don't talk about it. I believe JD Vance has got his marching or non marching orders just to sit there. And he is not talking about it. Someone will if they put him out there, ask him about it in an in it's meet the press or i

it is and JD Vance will h But right now I think he' orders. He is a grifter o and he understands where right now. And so he is s in the cut to try to figu next. You're probably right on that because he is self preservation seems to be what you know

these people are able to do it on a level I've never seen. One person that I find so interesting, well actually two, Marjorie Taylor Greene, she's out there against the pedophiles, all her theories, then she votes against the resolution. And then she says she's co-sponsoring the resolution, which is not true. And you could tell by her social media post, she was getting a ton of shit because she's like, I only follow one person, my Lord and Christ,

Jesus is my person, blah, blah, blah. Mike Johnson, same thing. Oh, I believe in transparency, yet he votes against it. Do you think the I mean, obviously taking Medicaid away from these people, they were willing to do that for Donald Trump. Do you think they're willing to cover for him on this issue? Because this seems to be something that the MAGA base has just latched on to. Are they willing to cover for him on Medicaid? Sure. I mean, they are, but are they willing to cover for him on this moving forward? Oh, yeah, of course. At this point, what I think we're in, we're in one of the stages of grief or one of the stages of of being unbrainwashed or whatever, or cleansed from a cult, right?

Once you start to, once they start to get you out of that thinking, you have to have some sort of realization, whether it is shock or disbelief or anger, and I believe we're in some of those phases right now where all of a sudden these people are realizing like, hmm, this is the one thing that we counted on. This is the thing that was handed to us on a silver platter, pumps.

This is the thing that was easy for the conspiracy theorists and the QAnon is among the MAGA faithful that they could glom onto whether there was evidence or not. This is the pizza gate crowd, right? And so now they're saying, well, wait a minute. We have campaigned on this. We believed you. This was something that was just given to us.

It was a gift. And now you're gonna take that gift back after you have given it to us. And not only that, promoted it and ran on it and said that it was real. And you promised us that the Democrats, it was all the Democrats and they were all behind it when in fact they're starting to find out in real time

as Bill O'Reilly did as he was on the cable channel the other day that Jeffrey Epstein was prosecuted, convicted, went to jail and killed himself while Donald Trump was president the first time. And so they had all of this information in these files. So then how therefore how can it be could be a Democrat, according to them, bad grammar, a democratic conspiracy theory or hoax when Donald Trump and Bill Barr were in charge at the time when all of this went down, it just does not make sense. And so I believe that

this has penetrated the armor and they realize, well, wait a minute, you know, that that that meme where you see the lady going, and all of the equations and the calculus is in front of her like, wait a minute, now it's starting to not make sense. And they're trying to figure out, well, how do we do this? So they're in one of the stages of grief, and I believe in the beginning stages of fuck around and find out.

So you really believe this could be his stumbling block? I believe, I'm not sure if this is the thing that will take him down. I will say this, the thing that you often think is the most obvious that will take him down. I will say this, the thing that you often think is the most obvious that will take someone down is usually not the thing that does. It's always some smaller thing that they did not think about. So I think, I believe that this is,

as I have been saying, it is breaking the spell. It is penetrating the armor. And it is shocking because January 6th did not do this. Being convicted of 34 or however many counts, 34, 35 counts, I think it's 34 counts. I lose track, which is easily done. Being found liable in a civil court for sexual assault and with a judge said later was akin to rape, that didn't penetrate the armor. Making fun of

a New York Times reporter, making fun of a war hero John McCain, being impeached twice. If none of these things broke through, and this is the thing that's going to break through, then I say, so be it, let it break through. But I think when you when you delve into and you operate and you swim in those murky swamps of conspiracy theory, I believe the conspiracy theory is quite logical, even though conspiracy theories are not logical, but quite logically the thing that can possibly be the beginning of the end. I hope you're right.

One thing I wanted to ask you about Fox News is doing everything they can not to bring up the Epstein. Oh my God. They're trying to gloss over it. So how long can they hold out over there as this fever pitch keeps coming out? Do you think they'll continue to hold the line? Yeah I mean remember the smartmatic of it all And the dominion of it all I mean this is that's a lot of money and they're still holding the line

I mean Fox News has said look back in the day a couple years ago when they were in court for getting into trouble I don't know if it was a dominion thing, but they were in court for something. And they said, well, they weren't bound by telling the truth and the news that was not their thing. So no, I mean, they are whole they're toeing the line. And if you look at the mentions of Jeffrey Epstein compared to the mentions of Joe Biden, who's by the way, off living his best life and not probably not thinking about any of this shit. And then, you know, they I mean, it is multiple times more exponentially, I would say that they are mentioning and talking about Joe Biden and the pen and the auto pen and all of that, rather than focusing on Jeffrey Epstein, which I think every lawmaker who is, for me,

this is what I say, okay, this is my belief. Every lawmaker who's questioned by any reporter and if they are coming up, if they're asking a question about one of these Donald Trump deflections, I think that they should say do what JD Vance does and do what Marco Rubio does. They say, ask me a question, um, ask me a que a question. Uh, Don, what

today? Well, that's not th the real question here, U is what I would do. That voice. I think the real q um, why are members of our government and people who are in power now and members of this administration trying to keep something this important, as important as the Epstein files from the American public? Why don't they want people to get down to the truth?

America is supposed to be about transparency. And if there are people in our government right now who are implicated in doing something wrong, I think it should be brought to light because remember the last coverup we had ended with a president being removed from office and leaving the White House on a helicopter. And if anyone in our government is responsible for anything that is akin to a coverup,

I think they deserve that same type of treatment. Now the hat, the hat will take care of itself. We're going to deal with that hat in legislation, but I think the big question and the real question is really about Jeffrey Epstein and this cover-up that the current administration is taking part in. Boy, that's a great answer. So you don't think Trump talking about Coca-Cola and sugar, you don't think that's the distraction he hopes it is? Well, I think the real question is, is when he does that, why is he distracting from why they're not releasing the real information? And so if they if they just released the information and the file and they were transparent and candid about it, we would not be having to

answer questions about Coca Cola and sugar or any of those things. The question is, I think the victims of this crime, Ghislaine Maxwell is sitting in prison. We know that it is real. It is not a hoax. And so I think that the victims of these crimes from Jeffrey Epstein and possibly others, they deserve to justice. And also the American people deserve better as well. Remember, it is the American taxpayer who's paying the salaries of all of these people who are in charge. And I think that they have forgotten that they actually work for the American public. And then and and and by working for the American public, the American public deserves transparency

around this Jeffrey Epstein debacle coverup scandal that the MAGA Republican Party and Donald Trump are taking part in and they're responsible for. Oh my gosh. You make me smarter every time I talk to you. Thank you for being on today. Please like this video. Please check out Don on his YouTube channel at Lemon Live.