IHIP News - MAGA's Worst Enemy is Data and Facts

Episode Date: December 1, 2024

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Starting point is 00:01:29 I think the perfect candidate should also do something that almost none of them do on the left, which is assume the best and not the worst intentions of the opposition, meaning you can tell us we're wrong, but don't tell us we're evil. Yeah, I think this has been the fatal flaw for the last, I don't know, two decades. You know, you're not just wrong, you're evil. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE WRONG BUT DON'T TELL US WE'RE EVIL. I THINK THIS HAS BEEN THE FATAL FLAW FOR THE LAST, I DON'T KNOW, TWO DECADES. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT JUST WRONG,
Starting point is 00:01:51 YOU'RE EVIL AND THAT MEANS WE CAN DEMONIZE YOU, WE CAN CALL YOU HITLER, WE CAN CALL YOU NAZIS. ALL THESE METHODS OF DEMONIZATION ARE ON THE TABLE. HE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE PARENTS OR THE FAMILIES
Starting point is 00:02:03 DESTROYED OR THE DOCTORS WHO SHOULD BE EXECUTED FOR BUTCHERING CHILDREN IN ORDER TO MAKE A BUCK. WE TALKED ABOUT ON THIS SHOW. THIS IS THE BIGGEST MORAL STORY PROBABLY SINCE ABORTION BECAUSE IT SHOWS YOU HOW A TOXIC IDEOLOGY CAN GROW EXPONENTIALLY IF IT'S LEFT UNCHALLENGED. SUDDENLY, WE WERE VOLUNTARILY BUTCHERING CHILDREN. AGAIN, A CRIME THAT WOULD END IN THE DEATH OF A DOCTOR. voluntarily butchering children. Again, a crime that would end in the death of a doctor. You know, now we were talking about it was a choice among children who cannot even make these decisions. Think about Elon Musk. You know, he has an estranged transgender child.
Starting point is 00:02:36 So there he is talking about, can the left give us the benefit of the doubt? I want to remind everybody that when Barack Obama won, Mitch McConnell said our number one goal will be to ensure that he is a one term president. His goal wasn't to help the American people. His goal wasn't to pass legislation that benefits people. It was to get the black man out of the White House. So these people that have that level of credibility, that free base Fox News, that grind it up and snort it with reckless abandon, listen to this bullshit. It never clicks in their brain where he says the burden is always on the left. Can the left not do this? Can the left, you know, be nice to us? We're so triggered by the left calling us Hitler.
Starting point is 00:03:23 And then you hear him say that he thinks doctors should be executed. And you have all of these people that sit around at night, should be enjoying their time. And they watch this bullshit and they just chew on one thing. And then they flip and start chewing on something completely different. Like, yeah, yeah, let's execute doctors. Yeah, let's execute the parents that gave birth to trans kids. Let's just be mean, vicious assholes. And then why isn't the left nice to us? Why don't they give us the benefit of the doubt?
Starting point is 00:04:00 Why don't they, why do they call us evil? Well, I'll tell you why they call you evil. Because you're racist, you're homophobic, you don't give, why do they call us evil? Well, I'll tell you why they call you evil, because you're racist, you're homophobic. You don't give a flying fuck about working people or making people's lives better. You want to take away their healthcare. You want to take away their social security on the name of capitalism and power. So that's evil behavior, in my opinion, not having the moral clarity to stand up for a human over a prophet, to me,
Starting point is 00:04:26 that is my definition of evil. And if he doesn't like it, he can go fuck himself. You know, I agree. And I think the Fox News, the decades long data that we have from this, and you see the foxification, whatever, y'all know what I'm trying to say, of a huge portion of the American public. And they rolled this out, I remember, back in the day. It's fair and balanced. Yes, I remember. They've dropped that, the fair and balanced part. because for the religious right and the capitalist, unregulated capitalist right, the opposition to that is not necessarily the Democrats.
Starting point is 00:05:12 It's facts and data. So they have a problem when the American public is able to read the data on this, when they see that trickle-down economics is nothing short of an abject failure of an economic policy, they don't want the public to see that. So they use all these distractions like talking about trans kids. We're talking about less than 1% of the population, and the parents that have trans kids are simply looking at the data and looking at the torture that their child is going through. And so they're trying to prevent suicide and trying to find joy for their child. And they're trying to pick up a mountain and move it privately without Greg Gutfeld being a dick
Starting point is 00:05:59 about it, without all these other people bullying them. And this has become the big issue of the right. And if you think we're pussies because we don't want trans kids to get bullied, fine. If you think we're woke because we don't want these kids getting bullied, fine. I don't give a shit. I'd rather be a pussy, woke-ass liberal than a cruel hypocrite like all of these Fox people. And listen up, listener. I live in the buckle of the Bible belt, and I can tell you with boots on the ground, the meanest and the cruelest and the most racist people are the most religious people that
Starting point is 00:06:41 I know in this state. They are the biggest hypocrites. They act like they care and they don't give a shit. All they give a shit about is their own personal tax break and anybody who's connected to them DNA wise. Outside of that, it's all word salad bullshit. And I'm telling you, all of these people bask, bathe, snort, inject Freebase Fox News because it serves up the perfect cognitive dissonance where they can act like they care on one hand. We're so rational. Be nice to us. Give us a chance.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Give our policies a try. And on the other hand, let's execute women that get abortions. Let's execute doctors. Let'sions. Let's execute doctors. Let's execute, let's imprison parents of trans kids. Like have some, for a second, either be one of the two things. That's not my business. I don't have trans kids, so I can't relate to that. or try to understand that trans people have existed long before the United States of America has in every country around the globe in every time of recorded history.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Nothing you're doing is going to help this situation at all. And if you don't understand it, walk away by saying, I don't understand it. Nobody's asking you to accept this. We're not asking you to be kind about it. We're saying, don't be don't understand it. Nobody's asking you to accept this. We're not asking you to be kind about it. We're saying, don't be a dick about it. And that's the difference. And the message that I think liberals need to take, don't demand that everybody be kind. Just ask that they not be a dick. Ask that they be neutral. Can you just be neutral? There's plenty of stuff that I'm neutral about. I'm completely neutral about a lot of things that I don't have the energy to be kind about.
Starting point is 00:08:28 But I also actively choose to not be a dick about it. But with religious people, particularly the religious right political forces, I mean, these people are really sick puppies, truly, that they sit around and think about trans people all the time. It's really sick. Well, they sit around and think about trans people all the time. It's really sick. Well, they sit around and think about gay people, had for years. Then now it's trans people. They sit around and talk about how they want to control women's bodies.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Here's the thing. Everybody that's not a white male is on the chopping block. So all of the groups that are not white male Christian nationalists need to realize that they're expendable. Also, white men are too. When you get this, this is an oligarchy. This is the top 1%. White males are on the chopping block as well.
Starting point is 00:09:20 If you're a working class white male, you're on the chopping block. You get cancer and you've got a couple of kids and you're only 35 and you're the primary breadwinner for your family and you have to navigate through all of these insurance policies. You're on the chopping block. So that's the message the Democrats need to cling on to. If you're not a rich person on a shareholder of a New York Stock Exchange company, everything below that is on the chopping block. And the biggest lie you've been told your entire life is the Republican Party is good with economics. Let the rich people get richer, and that wealth will just trickle down. And it doesn't. And that's why they're so mad. And the politician that's also mad that campaigns on anger is Donald Trump. And they related to that level of anger.
Starting point is 00:10:13 That's what they liked about him is that he was mad and he was picking on other Republicans in 2016. And they were like, yeah, I like this. I like this level of anger. The Democrats need to point out everybody's on the chopping block unless you're a multimillionaire or billionaire. Everybody below that is, in my opinion. No, I think you're right. Because the working class male that doesn't have big money, and just like you said, if he needs health care, X-nay on that. It's just, it's really, really disturbing. I mean, when I, I try not to
Starting point is 00:10:47 like look forward because the, we fucked around and found out period is coming and I tried to be positive about it. But when you think about all of the corruption, the policies that are coming, how that's going to affect women, middle class, children, gay people, trans people, black and brown people. It's terrifying. But I want to point out that some people like Bernie Sanders and others have been pointing out that this has already been happening to the middle class. And this is why Donald Trump's breed of anger and tearing it all down appealed to them. The autopsy that Bernie Sanders had immediately after the election was, I am not surprised that a party that doesn't listen to working class voters got voted against. And the messaging here, the messaging opportunity for Democrats is not to
Starting point is 00:11:49 try to stay positive, is to point out the compulsive lying out of the Republican Party to use your faith to emotionally blackmail you to vote for family values. Shut the fuck up with that. Like, you know what? I'm anti-family. That's my platform. That's how I'm going to run. I mean, give me a break. Everybody's for family values. It's so stupid. The difference is the Democratic Party points out that not all families look the exact same. And then look at Donald Trump's family. I mean, you know, three baby mamas, five kids. Elon Musk has a whole litter of kids and a bunch of baby mamas. I don't give a shit about that because I'm not a religious hypocrite. But quit acting like you guys have a mandate on family values
Starting point is 00:12:36 when most of your megachurch preachers are out there doing poppers with gay hookers. And I don't have a problem with that either, but don't claim the moral high ground. The Democrats have got to pound and hammer the shit out of these people for being the lying hypocrites that they are every single day, every podcaster, every newscaster, every newspaper. Don't bury the lead. The lead is these are lying hypocrites. These are phony Christians. Let's hammer the shit out of them. I mean, I want them to look like hammered dog shit when we get done with them. I hope that some of these Democrats rise to that call because I think integrity politics is big fat zero. It's not winning. They're playing fuck you politics. Democrats are going to have to play fuck you politics. But isn't it integrity to live in reality, to say these people are lying liars and have
Starting point is 00:13:33 lied to you? And isn't it integrity when you see groups of people that attend their suburban megachurch that say, oh, you know, I just really like his policies to say seriously. And you go to church every day and you pray to your Lord and Savior with that lying mouth. Isn't that more integrity? Yes, but they're not doing it with any fervor. It's not robust. It's, you know, Donald Trump's policies are going to raise taxes.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Donald Trump's policies are going to hurt the economy because the immigration is going to, it needs to be about the moral failings of Donald Trump and his policies, the moral failings of the people that vote for him, the lying, the meanness, the cruelty. But I just don't hear that. I just don't. I don't hear robust response like, fuck you, fuck you back. Yeah, I agree. We don't. We need like a group of Democrats to get out there and really megaphone the problem with this and to say, I know nobody's out in the streets with their pink hats on marching right now, but we're here and we're going to start fighting this game digitally. And we're going to build an army to expose every last one of these lying hypocrites for exactly who they are, because they're all liars that have lied to every American. This whole thing is rigged unless you're a
Starting point is 00:14:59 shareholder or you sit on a board for a company exchange on the New York Stock Exchange. Other than that, you're all fucked. Even white Christian men, they don't give a shit about you. Yeah, hopefully that'll happen. But you know what? These people, they're megachurch pastors, don't give a shit about them either. They're all taking Venmo and all of this stuff. So I think the messaging is going to be decades long to dismantle all of the myths of
Starting point is 00:15:27 this. And the Democrats are going to have to get tough and going to have to start calling out white religious politics because they have worked decades to inject it into the public sphere. And they're going to have to start calling all of these religious hypocrites out for the lying, immoral hypocrites that they are and what bullshit it is that they hide behind their faith. And they're going to go, oh, you're persecuting me. And they need to pounce back and go, you're the persecutor. You're the judger. You're the one who values all this bullshit. And P.S., Jesus was black. That's what I think. All right. We'll see you guys later.

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