IHIP News - Majority of White Women Vote AGAINST Themselves

Episode Date: November 15, 2024

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Welcome, welcome to IHIP News, where we try to continue to share the news that is important to us as we head into the nightmare that is going to be the second Trump administration, which is going to be an onslaught of just daily torturous bullshit day in, day out, because we're going to see incompetent people, unserious people cosplaying that they know what's going on and everybody knows that they don't. There are still a lot of judges and people in power who can form a very distinct resistance to the immoral MAGA movement. And it is that at its core. This is a very immoral movement. And I want to play for you and the viewer the Supreme Court justices from the state of Wisconsin regarding abortion rights. Because under your interpretation, they could all be denied life-saving medical care,

while the medical professionals who are charged with taking care of them are forced to sit idly by. This is the world gone mad. I don't understand how that is not the crime here. Under your interpretation of 9-40-04, there would not be an exception for sexual assault or rape, correct? I believe that is correct, unless it was necessary to save the life of the mother. There would not be an exception for incest, correct? I believe that is correct. There would not be an exception for the health of the mother, correct? I believe that's correct.

There would not be an exception for fetal abnormality, correct? It would probably depend to the extent of the fet, correct? I believe that's correct. There would not be an exception for a fetal abnormality, correct? So it would probably depend to the extent of the fetal abnormality. Just to be clear, a 12-year-old girl who was sexually assaulted by her father and as a result became pregnant. Under your interpretation of 9-40-04, she would be forced to carry her pregnancy to term, correct? That would be correct. Okay, so in that case, a child would be forced to deliver a baby. How about a woman who is a college freshman here at the University of Wisconsin-Madison? She is sexually assaulted and is charged as a third-degree sexual assault. If she became pregnant as a result of the sexual assault,

it would be illegal for her to obtain an abortion, correct? It would be illegal for a doctor to provide an abortion to her in the state of Wisconsin, correct. And were she to obtain an abortion after quickening, whatever that means, the penalty under 940-04 would be 15 years, a Class E felony, correct? I believe that's how it's defined, yes. Okay. But it would not be, she would not be subject to that penalty. I understand.

Right. If her assaulter is charged under 940.225 sub 3 sub a, which is a third degree sexual assault, he would be facing a 10 year maximum imprisonment because that would be a class G felony. In that case, the penalty for aborting after a sexual assault would be more severe than the penalty for the sexual assault. Mr. Tomei, I fear that what you are asking this court to do is to sign the death warrants of women and children and pregnant people. So that is the energy that this resistance has got to have. It's logical. It points out the complete asinine idea that that dipshit lawyer knows more about women's health than a physician.

And it also points out that all of this limited government states' rights stuff is just total bullshit. Look at our state and look at the dipshits that run it. I mean, they should not be in charge of women's health. Full stop. Nobody's talking about regulating the penis. No, nobody's ever talking about regulating the penis. And that irritates me because I think it should be, if you want to regulate women's health, then we ought to regulate your ability to get an erection. And if it's God's will to have a baby, then it's God's will for you to have a limp dick. I stand on that principle.

But what just amazes me is that we are in 2024 and women are dying. And these people are arguing that children, and this is happening in red states, children should be child labor laws have been reduced. The age of children to marry, that has been reduced. But we are so pro-family. We want children to get married younger. We want children to go to work younger. And now we're basically saying it's okay for somebody to be raped and have a baby if they are a child. There are no exceptions for rape and incest. And bringing up that the punishment for the doctor is more severe than the punishment for

the sexual abuser is flabbergasting. It is shocking that these people wrote these laws and they didn't think about the consequences. And they're saying, oh, well, to save the life of the mother. Women are dying and you don't seem to give a shit. So I have no tolerance for these laws that want to take women back, that want to deny them reproductive care, even if you're not talking about abortion, DNC. Now, you know, contraception is probably going to come up very quickly in the Trump administration. Then you've got IVF.

Where does it stop? Where does the government regulation of women stop? And in my mind, there is no stop. And that's why all of the minorities, everybody who's not a white man needs to band together and form a coalition, because we're all under attack, every single one of us. Right. But we need to tell that to our white female friends, if they go out and vote against their own self-interest and against their daughter's self-interest. And that is just staggering.

The internalized misogyny and every father that has a daughter that can go out and vote against her reproductive rights is just, it's really a moral shortcoming. And I blame a lot of this on religion. And I blame a lot of it on the right wing media echo chamber. And what the right wing does is they do a really good job demonizing something, right? Like they demonize woke, woke, woke, woke, woke. These are woke policies. These are woke policies. They would say that this judge is woke. And so what is our response to that? What is the left's response to that? And I think it is the words already out there. I think you say, yeah, if caring about women having privacy and the government being out of my life is woke, then call me woke. If caring that the producer of our show, Kylie, has discrimination protections in place by law because she's a

lesbian, you want to call me woke for that? Call me woke. Fuck off. We're going, because it's all out there. They did this exact same thing during the George Bush administration. I remember because I've always been liberal. I've always been anti-religious and I live in this hellscape Bible thumper state. And people would say, oh, so she's just a liberal. Like it was a demonizing thing. And I would say, yes, I am. I am a liberal. I think you said that to me once when we first got, when we first started hanging out, I told you I didn't liberal. I think you said that to me once when we first got when we first started hanging out. I told you I didn't like George W. Bush and you rolled your eyes and you're like, oh, she's just a liberal.

And I'm like, yeah, I am. I'm proud of caring for marginalized people. I embrace caring for marginalized people. That is something that I value. So if their new word is woke and it's already out there, instead of liberals, progressive, wokists, whatever it's called, to run away from it, say, yeah, if y'all have to have some stupid word for it or wherever the origin of the word is, if it was from the left or the right, if me caring about marginalized people means that I'm woke. If me valuing human beings over profit means that I'm woke, then so

be it. Because I'd rather be that than be a religious hypocrite that acts like I care about human beings. I'd rather be that than be a religious hypocrite that acts like I give a shit about family values, but I vote the complete antithetical way to it. That's what I'd rather have. So I think that because all of this branding and stuff is already out there, what our thing is not, oh, we have to move to the center. I think that's a fatal flaw. I think you have to say, yeah, whatever. Y'all are all up in labeling everybody. They say we're the ones that want to label everybody. It's classic projection. That's what they're doing. They're labeling everybody as woke. Okay, if that makes you feel better to call me that. And so be it. Listen to

these judges. Listen to the resistance. Let's listen to this and see how it plays out because that is the moral calling. What that judge just did, that is the resistance. That is the messaging that we need to implement moving forward in the second Trump term. I could not agree more. I think the judge was on point. I think the points you're making are on point. My question is, how do you deal with that in a society that doesn't value facts? I mean, that's where we are. People don't care about facts, period. They like conspiracy theories. They like to own the libs. How do we break through that shell? I mean, I don't know. I mean, I would think that you would have some insight in this because you came from that world where the worldview is presented to you and you just

have to accept it. Is it fear? Did you feel fear before you became politically enlightened? What was for you personally, what kept you in that worldview before you started becoming enlightening and getting out of it? What is at the core of that? I think it was the indoctrination and the inability to critically think. And so when you're presented with an issue, you just immediately say, oh, well, that's not true or that's how it is or, you know, that's wrong. And it's just it's so in your mind that that's what how it is because of the indoctrination that began as a child. So does the right wing media echo chamber enforce the indoctrination? Yes. Confirmation bias to the indoctrination that you had as a child. Absolutely. There's no question about that. So I'm thinking, what is a way to get into people's social media accounts, into their churches, into the spaces that they inhabit with facts? What broke in for you?

This is what we need to know. Pain, going through life's pain, going to realizing that I had no coping skills to deal with the curve balls that life sent me based on the black and white thinking and the indoctrination, that that didn't help me cope. And that real pro so I would say probably in a nutshell, having to confront

real problems with critical thinking versus magical thinking that, oh, well, I can pray about it, then everything's gonna be fine. Right. And then having to dig deep and look at myself and my inability to mentally, emotionally, physically, or psychologically handle realistic life situations. I had to go outside of that indoctrination because those tools did not serve me. So by your logic, which I remember, I was with you through that whole evolution, a lot of the stuff that these people are going to get thrown at them is going to cause them pain, right? And break them down. So the second Trump administration, and we were saying this, and we've been saying this for the two years that we've had the podcast,

I hate it that people have to have a personal experience for them to give a shit about other people. But sometimes that is what is required to break through by no fault of anybody's that they were indoctrinated by their parents and culturally indoctrinated into a lot of Republican thinking and cruelty. But when you feel pain, then you feel marginalized. And then you want to reach out and surround yourself with other people who know what real pain feels like, because it's comforting to know that other people got through it. Yeah, I would absolutely say that it's, it's pain. That's how you get there. That's where enlightenment starts suffering, pain. That's when questioning starts. That's when you have to look at the bigger picture,

because it's personal to you. And it's a shame. That's how it is. But I, and it's sad. It's sad, because what we were voting for, what we're working for is to try to prevent pain, right. But at the end of the day, a lot of people voted for this pain. And I think a lot of them like the cruelty. I think some people were like, oh, fuck it. I'll just vote for Trump again. But they're going to be the victims of this, particularly the working class. I mean, I'm under no grand illusion that they're going to come out and like, we're going to lift up working class people. It's just never going to happen under a Republican administration, but particularly to marginalized people. It's just never going to happen under a Republican administration, but particularly to

marginalized people. Because every time I have seen since Trump's win, one of my gay friends, it feels so personal to them. And I know you've seen it too. And they feel like, God, you know, they've been pretty outwardly homophobic and transphobic. I mean, that's amazing that tens of millions of people don't care. And a lot of people, you know, vote against their family members who were gay. And I just think that's so personally painful. And so I don't know if those people learn the lesson or if they just keep quadrupling down. But I do believe that people can find enlightenment because historically this country has found it and we have progressed forward.

I agree. All right, guys, we'll see you later.