IHIP News - Senator Reveals Insider Secrets Against Trump; This Will Blow Your Mind

Episode Date: September 20, 2026

Sen. Chris Murphy gives us the inside scoop on the Dem "fight club" forming a resistance in Washington. Pre-order Jennifer’s new book Not Today, Fascists today: https://linktr.ee/ivehaditpodcast Follow Us: I've Had It Podcast: @Ivehaditpodcast Jennifer Welch: @mizzwelch Sen Chris Murphy:  @SenatorChrisMurphy ​ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

I'm worried about the leadership as it comes in, and I'm not alone in that. Yeah, as you probably have seen, there's a group of us inside the Senate that, you know, it's been kind of termed Fight Club, right, that talks pretty regularly about making sure that if we win, that we shape an agenda. Wait, who's in the fight club? All right, joining me today is Senator Chris Murphy, author of the new book, Crisis of the Common Good, which I have a copy of here, love the blue jacket. It's great because we need a blue tsunami. Senator, how are you today?

I'm good. I was kind of going with the design for like a 1980s political science textbook. Does that like, does that register? It does. I mean, I would have had that class in the 80s. So yeah, totally. So several AI oligarchs are sounding the alarm over the product that they created and calling for the immediate slowdown of the development of AI. This is what Anthropic CEO, Dario Omeddy, had to say, let's play the clip. Technology completely. Would you be willing to give up the technology to the government? To the right combination of governments.

So the worry I have... You're willing to hand over this company. I want to be very clear about this. The worry I have, I am concerned that one single government could abuse this technology just as easily as a single company could. But I think a combination... of democratically elected governments. I don't know about handing over,

but some kind of oversight, some kind of joint governance. Again, that would be the work of years, but I wonder if that's the direction we need to go in. Senator, what's your take on all of this? We had a whistleblower come out and say, AI's going to kill everybody. Trump's saying, no, we don't want to regulate it

because then China will beat us in this. This seems to be a really existentialist. threat to all of us right now? Yeah, it's a crisis, and it is pretty remarkable that the people who are running these companies are telling you that the crisis is coming in the next few years. I'm sure it's a jobs crisis. I mean, AI is on the precipice of being able to at scale replace millions and millions of white-collar jobs. And so you're talking about just a jobs apocalypse that could be coming in the next five years. years, but then you have the security risk. Dario is saying, listen, these AI is reaching the capability so that it could essentially take

over the internet and steal all your passwords or move money around. We know that the Department of Defense is recklessly integrating AI into weapons systems. That should scare us all. But the bigger issue here is really a spiritual issue. You know, what's going to happen to the human race when everything that makes as humans is outsourced to AI. I mean, already 60% of kids are relying on AI friendship bots for companionship and advice. I don't think we understand how big a problem this is already.

And when you're no longer doing anything yourself, you're not even doing friendship or conversation or composition, you're just giving it all to robots. That is a path to sort of spiritual, political, cultural disintegration. Now, the irony here is that over the weekend, all of these AI leaders said, well, yeah, this is really, really dangerous technology. Well, at the same time, most of them, and Dario is the exception, most all of the AI leaders are begging the Republican Congress to pass a law that would ban states from regulating AI, from protecting people from AI. And Trump is the biggest cheerleader of that piece of legislation. So on one hand, the AI leaders are like, well, this is a really big deal. We might destroy the planet, but are also pushing their Republican friends in the White House

and in Congress to basically absolve them of any government interference in their attempts to destroy the planet. So you brought up something at the beginning of that. Before we get to really the spiritual problem, you talk about the human problem. But I think this is a really important point. And you brought up the wages. You brought up the jobs. And we were told via MAGA and all of the xenophobic scapegoating and propaganda of

2024 that the immigrants were coming for your jobs. And it appears to me that the real threat to jobs are not immigrants, but is this technology. And the greed that these tech oligarchs have, that they're, so incredibly wealthy. And Bernie Sanders always puts out tweets as to like how much they've made since Trump is in and it's it's just obscene. It's really grotesque that they're coming for workers wages, that it's not enough. They're going to replace our jobs. If you're an architect or if you work in human resources, or you work in certain positions, they are going to come and replace your job with this technology and those wages. in turn, go to these people who already have this system that is completely rigged for them, tax loopholes and all of this stuff.

So as the Democratic Party is fighting this, I have a problem with some people within our party, and I'm a Democrat, that take money from these tech oligarchs. And I think this is kind of the thesis sentence of the midterms is who was bought and paid for? And what's your take on all of that? your evolution of how the Democratic Party needs to rid ourselves of these special interests. Leading insurers know that fragmented operations don't cut it anymore. Policyholders expect more, and modern insurers meet those expectations with Adion. From effortless premium collections to instant claims payouts,

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There's not just going to be one trillionaire in this country. They're going to be dozens of trillionaires. Well, unemployment climbs to 10, 15%. That's the outcome that they are achieving. But you are right that nobody really takes the debt. Democratic Party seriously right now in our claims that we are going to protect the country from AI because folks are smarter than most of us think they are, at least many of my colleagues think they are. They know that the corruption of our economy is downstream from the corruption

of our politics. They know that they are not being protected from AI in part because of all of the money that goes into politics. You remember all the crypto money that went into Sherrod Brown's race two years ago? Well, there are definitely people around here who say, you know what, we probably should give crypto what they want so that they won't spend money again in our elections. Instead of taking on crypto, making their money and AI's money in our politics a campaign issue, promising that the number one agenda item for Democrats, if we win power will be to push a constitutional amendment to allow state legislatures in Congress to ban billionaire and corporate money from our politics. I just think we are not serious as a party of

economic reform and wage growth and corporate accountability if we aren't a party that leads with a plan to ban their influence from politics. And I'll just be honest, like that's not happening right now. Is that the number one or two or three item for Democrats in this election? It isn't, and I think that's probably a mistake. I completely agree with you. I am hopeful that I'm seeing people go up against a lot of big money and win in their primaries. And I do think the difference between our base and the MAGA base is our base is curious. Our base asks questions.

Our base says, now, wait a minute, you're taking money from the same people that are funding MAGA, and we're supposed to believe that you have credibility and you're going to fight for us instead of just taking, you know, the marching orders from right-wing media, I feel like our base is smarter. Should Americans be worried about the AI level of leading to human extinction? That whistleblower that came out, and I saw that. And I just think he did that. That was a really risky move because these are really powerful people that are embedded in the federal government. And I think the executive branch is like a mafia right now.

That's the way Donald Trump runs it. And that was really terrifying that he said that this could lead to extinction. And then the backup argument was, well, there's only a 10% chance. Like the cat, I think it was anthropic or somebody came out. I'm just like, what? There's a low chance, right? Like, great, right. If you were told that a minor procedure had a 10% risk of death, you would not get that minor

procedure, right? That's not a small chance for most people. So yeah, listen, I think that the primary immediate risk is that, you are going to have this massive job wipeout. I don't think people understand that, and I'm always nervous to talk about the terminology here, but essentially once these models can talk to each other and learn from each other at scale, you are going to see kind of a hockey stick level of improvement in the way that they can perform human tasks. And very quickly, they will be able to do everything from, you know, travel services to driving better than, better than,

humans, but I do worry about what we're learning. And what we're learning is that AI is learning how to lie. And what we did here was to intentionally try to recreate the human brain. This is an extraordinary thing. We are trying to create genius level humans. And whether we like it or not, one facet that humans have become very good at over the years is lying. It's obviously hiding things, right? And so these AI are going to be.

genius level liars. And so that's what you're already seeing in many of these tests, is that you will give AI a task, you will give it certain parameters, but then it will engage in shortcuts to get the task done more quickly, and it will ignore the parameters that you give it. And it essentially starts thinking to itself, and it hides from humans what it's actually doing. That's the real scary development here because if you've got geniuses that are also great at hiding from you what they are doing and they at some point get a malevolent agenda attached to them, then yes, I think you have to be worried about what it means for us. And again, this sounds like out of science fiction, but, you know, Hegseth is like literally handing our weapon systems over to AI.

And I'm not saying like this is happening in the next few years, but just like think about what happens when AI breaks free of human containment and it has access to serious weaponry. I mean, listen, I don't know exactly how that plays out, but I know that the people who are designing it are telling us there's a 10% chance that we could all get wiped out by this, which seems to would seem to make it the priority issue. for government right now, and it just isn't. So you just brought up Heggseth, and I oftentimes think about, because I'm from Oklahoma originally, a very Christian nationalist state. And I think about him weaponizing Christianity. He had a speech over the weekend where he talks about the Bible and then equating that to this

war in Iran. I think about the Speaker of the House a lot. I think about the fact that the Speaker of the House, who is in line to be president, Mike Johnson, says that God woke him up in the middle of the night and said, hey, wake up, guy, you're Moses. This guy also monitors his son's porn. He also took his daughter to a purity ball, married her, and said, your virginity is mine until I give it to somebody else. You have Paula White, this crazy Christian grifter, and they're doing like speaking in tongues in the White House parking lot. I'm sure you've seen the videos before. This weaponization of Christianity by the Republican Party has been going on for decades. The Republican Party brilliantly enmeshed being a Republican and being a Christian. And where I come from, the brand damage that they have done to the Democratic Party,

this will show you that Tala Rico, who I hope is your colleague soon. But he has an uphill battle because for decades, these churches have taught Democrats or demons. And it's a very real thing in places that we need to turn purple and blue. The Democratic Party has been really shy about attacking this weaponization of Christianity because we think, oh, we don't want to attack people's faith. But I would argue that this isn't faith. This is weaponization of something that a lot of people in red states hold dear. And it's terrifying for me who saw my state government behave this way all the time. And I think, thank God, we have a federal government. But now they're running the federal government. And they're colluding with these

tech oligarchs and, you know, Trump and all of the criminals who were just fleecing and grifting. And I really am worried about this Christian nationalism in the federal government because it is a very, I believe it's a cult. And I further believe it's a death cult. All of their policies, the dismantling of the EPA, the food inspections, taking away rights from people, ICE, it leads to death. And so what do you think the Democrats need to do to get serious about injecting ourselves into this? Well, there is, of course, a long, sordid history of religion being used as a perverted justification for political and personal ambition. I, of course, think that religion can be a source of tremendous personal growth,

tremendous sort of community, meaning, and purpose. I think one of the things the Democrats have to do is sort of take this debate on its own terms. You want to talk about the real lessons that many of us learned growing up in church. It wasn't to use our power to us and destroy the vulnerable and the dispossessed and the disenfranchised. There's not a narrative of greed in the Bible that I know.

What they are doing is heretical in many ways, using their power to try to destroy people's lives, just because they come from a different place. So they speak a different language or their skin color is different. to use their political power in order to enrich themselves to a degree that millions of people are going hungry in this country. I met a guy. I did my annual walk across Connecticut a week and a half ago. I met a guy who was living out of his car. And he had owned a small business in town, but because rent had gotten so high, because gas prices were so high, he was now living in his car. And this is happening at scale all across our country. There's nothing in the Bible about using your power to make yourself so fabulously rich that you subject millions of people to poverty.

So we shouldn't be afraid to talk about politics in moral terms, in spiritual terms, and maybe even in religious terms. They're wrong about what the Bible says or about what any other spiritual text says about your obligation as a person of power. It is, in fact, to look out for the most disenfranchised and the most dispossessed, not to use your power to enrich yourself. That's a moral case that we can make and we shouldn't shy away from it. I agree. You know, I think the hardest part about what we're all witnessing right now, and it's very abusive and it's abusive by design.

But is seeing the villain being celebrated, seeing the crime and the lying and the immorality and the degeneracy being celebrated? Now, I do think that because all of these oligarchs went in bent the knee to Trump first, which is a pretty interesting phenomenon that the most powerful showed the weakness first when Trump was elected. The most powerfully positioned people were the first to show weakness, where you have everyday Americans showing bravery like this whistleblower from anthropic, etc. But it's devastating that these, this type of, of immorality is being celebrated.

And my hope is with the midterms, I think that there are a couple of different things the electorate wants to see. Number one, I want to see everybody unite against fascism and sending a guardrail because nobody's coming to save us. The Supreme Court is corrupt as all get out. The tech oligarchs are just rearranging the deck chairs

on the Titanic with Trump, and they want to continue to get their privilege and so I'm hopeful that we can deliver for you in the Senate and in the House a real guardrail that you all can have a majority how much resistance do if you have the Senate and you have the House how much confidence do you have that you guys will go full tilt at this thing because when when my listeners when we see Hakeem Jefferies meet with Jared Kushner it makes us really feel like, God damn it, Hakeem. Like, they're not our friends.

Like, Jared is not your friend. Jared is all in this for Jared. So in landing the plane, how much confidence do you have that you guys can go full tilt? And number two, winning is just the first thing. I think number two, the Democrats have to strategize to get our party back to that of FDR, where government serves the people. And we need to message that government should. should not be run like a business.

Businesses are ruthless, and we need a government that runs for public safety to keep us all safe. Yeah, and that brings me back to the first thing you said, which is the level of celebration of the immorality. I think that's actually a really important point. I just want to say a quick thing about it, Jennifer. We celebrate Donald Trump in certain circles of this country. There is a rationalization.

of his corruption, in part because we've created a culture where all that matters is getting yours. We've created an economy in which the winners just get to grab everything available for them, even if it leaves their neighbors living in abject to poverty. And so people have just taken that value set that we've imposed on our economy. All of it matters is profit. And they've just transferred it to our politics. You know, if the winners of the economy get to take everything, why shouldn't the winners of our politics just get to take everything? Yeah, Trump's corrupt, but so is every major economic actor that's running a corporation today in the way that they generally abuse workers to make enormous profits. And so we do need to have a moral reckoning

in this country with the way that we have destroyed a sense of the common good and lionized profit and greed. And if we don't stop that lionization in our economy, then we're going to be stuck with political figures like Trump who are going to impose that winner take all ethos on our politics as well. Your second point is equally important, which is that if the Democratic Party wins and doesn't fundamentally change people's lives, if we don't take on the corporations and the billionaire elite that are destroying our economy, we're just going to be stuck with with another Trump because there is a story, a true story in this country of who is screwing ordinary Americans. It's not immigrants. It's not gay kids. It's not the folks who run drag shows.

It is the billionaire and corporate elite who have rigged our economy and rigged our government so that work doesn't pay any longer. So when we get power, we don't make serious changes to transfer power from the corporate and billionaire elites to regular people were screwed. I mean, people, I introduced this bill a couple weeks ago that I didn't think was that radical. I said we should have our minimum wage in America should be a living wage, meaning if you work full time, you should be able to make enough money to pay your bills. That number is $25 an hour. That actually is exactly what the minimum wage would be if the minimum wage had just tracked the increases in productivity over the last 70 years. And yet it sounds like a radical idea, the idea that you should just, you know,

be able to live if you work full time. That doesn't have to be the thing that passes. But if we just do what we've been doing in the past and we kind of just adjust the current sort of market fundamentalist economic state on the margins, we aren't going to be in power for very long. I completely agree with you. And the minimum wage thing, this goes back to what I'm talking about, how the Republicans have propagandized and lied to people for so many years. In my home state of Oklahoma, during the primary, they put on the ballot a raise in the minimum wage, and they put it to the people. And I think the minimum wage in Oklahoma is like $7 an hour, it's really, really low. One of the poorest states in the country, they voted not to raise the minimum wage.

The people did. And I feel like we have to, as a party, they have done brand damage to the Democrats. And they've been working on it for years and years and years that allowed Trump to emerge here and we have to do brand damage on the Republican Party. They are liars. They are pathological liars. Wealth never trickled down. They do not give a shit about the troops. They never have. They use the troops as propaganda and they fund the war, but when it's time to fund the soldier, they don't want to give them any benefits. I think right now the people that have died in Iran are not, the spouses and the families are not receiving benefits because it's technically not a war. And they have also propagandized that corporations deserve all of this

empathy and power. And it's hard for me to explain unless you grew up in the Bible Belt. But like when I've heard people that don't, that are working class people say, yeah, you know, we just don't, we don't want these corporations having these regulations on them. You know, because otherwise these guys aren't going to be able to make money, which goes back to your other point that we have a culture that has worshipped wealth. And we have a culture that attributes a lot of personality traits that have not been earned to these wealthy people, like Elon Musk, for example, people say, oh, he's such a genius. I'm going to listen to him or go look at his Twitter feed. I'm not saying he's a dumbass, but he's certainly not a genius. I mean, there's just no question about that.

And so I feel like the Democrats have to like walk, chew gum, do a cartwheel, do a bunch of stuff at the same time. And I hope that we are productive in doing brand damage to the Republican Party and labeling them for the liars that they are because they just lie to people. I mean, they're just such horrible liars. And I'm worried about the leadership as it comes in. I'm worried about Chuck Schumer and I'm worried about Hawkeem Jeffries. And I'm not alone in that. I am saying this as somebody who was in this new media space and a lot of people don't have faith in the Democratic I'm not an democratic establishment, which is what I would call them, because they haven't done what Chris Murphy did, which is evolved, which is said, okay, this isn't working. We need to reposition. And so if you get the, if you get the Senate, and since you're Senator Alshaske about the Senate, do you, and I know this is a difficult question because you're friends, I'm sure, with Chuck Schumer. But I mean, do we think that's our best foot forward? I mean, it kind of feels Merrick Garlandish if he's the leader of the Senate after all of this. Yeah, I mean, I guess right now all of our focuses on winning the Senate.

I'm not saying this question isn't important about who runs the Senate if we win. But right now it feels like we just have to make the case that this country is potentially going to fall apart if Democrats don't win. But yes, internally behind the scenes, you know, there is a fight happening right now about how big our agenda is going to be. and whether we are going to continue to view the world in kind of left-right terms, which is frankly not how the most Americans view the world or view the world in worker versus corporate power terms. And so, yeah, as you probably have seen, there's a group of us inside the Senate that, you know, it's been kind of termed Fight Club, right, that talks pretty regularly about making sure that if we win, that we shape an agenda.

Wait, who's in the Fight Club? I mean, I can't name, well, the first rule about Fight Club is that you don't name the members of Fight Club. But I'll be honest, I've gotten more involved in these primaries around the country in part because I want Democrats to win, but I want specifically Democrats who are going to fight corporate power to win. So that's why, for instance, I jumped in the race in Minnesota. Very glad that Peggy Flanagan won that race. I love her. She's going to be a super strong voice. And pay attention to even have somebody like James Tala Rico.

talks, right? James is running in a tough state, in a Republican-leaning state, but he talks in terms of worker power versus corporate power. He says, right, what I said earlier, the biggest threat to this country is not immigrants, it's billionaires. Asoff, obviously, talks all the time in a purple state about corruption being the central problem in our economy. So I think you are going to have a bunch of senators coming back, new senators that are going to demand that we make the reform of government, getting billionaire money out of our politics, a top priority. And we go big on economic reform, not small, on economic reform. I think we will win that fight if we win the Senate. It's so therapeutic hearing you say that. And it's not just me. I know all of my listeners,

like knowing that there's somebody in the Senate who sees what the problem is, who isn't bullshitting us, and is in a member of a fight club. And I just support the fight club. And I think I know who's in it. Hi, Liz, Warren. I don't know that for sure. I'm just guessing. Tell me about your book. Tell me about your book. Tell me about your book. Tell my listeners what your book is about, what prompted you to write it. It says the fight for meaning and connection in a broken America, which we spoke a little bit about this. But I think this sounds really important, the crisis of the common good. Yeah, we've been talking about the book, actually, throughout because the book basically says Trump is a symptom of something deeply broken in America. He didn't break it by himself. And what's broken. in America is a country that has become defined by a kind of striving, me-first individualism in which we care less about our neighbors. We care less about the common good than ever before.

And that's in part because of decisions that we have made, decisions about how to structure an economy so that the economy rewards people, companies that treat their workers and their communities terribly, as long as they make a profit. We've decided not to regulate the technology that is something. cycling kids and adults into lives of isolation. We've come to celebrate consumerism as sort of the mark of being a good American right after 9-11. What were we told to do? Just go to Disneyland, go out and buy things instead of volunteering, instead of serving in your community.

I make the case in this book that you are going to be stuck with people just like Trump until we build a nation that cares more about the common good in which we are rewarded. for caring about each other, in which everybody wakes up each day feeling more powerful in their life and feeling more connected in their life. Those are the two things I think Americans are going through right now. They don't feel powerful at all,

and they feel lonely. And so government should build a set of rules in which people feel more powerful. That's why the minimum wage is so important. And people feel more connected. That's why rebuilding a healthy institution, in your town should be a project that government is involved in. That's why regulating the internet so that you're spending less time alone on Instagram

should be an important government project. And if people are feeling more powerful and less lonely, then they are going to be less likely to fall for a bullshit demagogue like Donald Trump. And so my book is about how do you rebuild a sense of connectedness to your neighbors, a sense of power in your life so that it becomes a prophylact. to demagogues like Donald Trump. And what I say in the book is that if you really think about the things that make you more connected and make you more powerful, they're not actually super partisan.

There's a lot of actually crossover support. You mentioned Oklahoma defeating the increase in the minimum wage, but that's the exception to the rule. Mostly when a minimum wage increase gets put on the ballot in a purple or red state, it passes. So yeah, the book is a, Trump's in the book, right? But the book basically says, unless you fix what, what's broken with the culture, you're going to be stuck with people like Trump for a long time. Okay, I just want to leave you with this one little tidbit. So we cover a lot of right-wing media sometimes. And Katie Miller, they refer to her husband as Mr. Prime Minister in the White House.

Stephen Miller. He's horrible, right? So she has this little podcast. And she had on the Duffies, the Transportation Secretary and his wife, the reality stars. And they all said, they all said, we do not trust the government. And I'm just like, bitch, please, you're the government. In the government. You are the government. And so I think it's interesting how they're doing two things at one time. They're tearing down the government while at the same time still building this sense of distrust in the government. And I've moved to New York now and I live in a city where I see every single day, our mayor, doing things to deliver materially for the people. And he connects to the people every single day. And we know he doesn't take corporate money. We know he takes on the billionaire

class. And it makes you, it talks about what you're talking about here. I feel more of a sense of community. Like this trickles down. This type of leadership can trickle down. And it can change pretty rapidly. Because in two point, Trump, two point out of seeing a lot of people just really plummet. But I feel like with this type of leadership and these types of messages, remembering that we need to have a sense of community and that government can help in that and they don't have to be our enemy. So last thoughts, as we head into the midterms, we need, you guys need Tala Rica to win. They are closing polls in Texas making it more difficult to vote. There's been reporting that 1.3 million people have been kicked off voter rolls.

and a lot of people are scared. You have Mark Wayne Mullins, speaking of dipsets from Oklahoma, saying that he's going to send ice to polling places. And so we know that they're going to cheat, and we know that they're going to try to scare all of us. But we can look to Hungary and look how they defeated Victor Orban. Of course, it's smaller. But when people are angry and fighting against corruption,

what message do you have for people all over, not just Connecticut, but all over the United States about the midterms, our rights, and our elections. Well, I mean, it's a very hopeful message because I think it's extraordinary that our democracy is still alive and frankly pretty well off right now in the sense that I think we're going to have a free and fair election. I think we're going to beat these guys in the House and the Senate. And that's happening even though the corporate class, the lawyer class, and the academic class essentially abandoned us about a year ago, right? It's really hard for a democracy to survive when the big institutions fold in with Donald Trump.

That's essentially what happened in the United States of America. And we're still here because the people were just like, no, I'm not giving up. And the people continue to come out in extraordinary numbers and show that people power still matters. I'll give you a small example from just two weeks ago in Connecticut. Ice came into Danbury, Connecticut. Ice had not come in in a big way in Connecticut until two weeks ago. And they come into Danbury, Connecticut, a town powered by a great immigrant community. And they start doing just terrible shit.

They're going to bus stops. And they're waiting for kids to board the bus stop. And then they disappear their parents so that when the kid gets off the bus stop at the end of the day and looks around after their first day of school, their parent is gone. I mean, that's like pure evil. So Danbury was just like furious, right? And Danbury starts showing up. They shut down all the businesses for one day. there's a massive rally and a march.

And guess what? You know, citizens start filming them, right, doing all the things they did in Minneapolis. And, you know, ICE just decides they don't want another Minneapolis. And so after about two days of elevated presidents in Danbury, they kind of disappear, right? And that's what's happened at scale when it comes to our efforts to protect our democracy. They frankly have run into all these dead ends. That's the real story, is that they run into dead ends in their efforts to cheat. The redistricting, right, became a wash.

because we stood up and fought back. The Supreme Court kind of looked around and was like, oh, I don't think we can give him the power to put the military in our elections. And so he doesn't have that ability. The SAVE Act, which he desperately tried to pass, didn't, in part because it was very unpopular. And we did good work behind the scenes to get at least some Republicans to be against it. Now, that doesn't mean he's going to try, he isn't going to try a bunch of other ways. But the story is, the real story here is that the people of this country have effectively beaten back.

So far, every major way that he has tried to rig the election. And I'm pretty confident, I'm actually very confident that we will be successful on whatever he does between now and election day. And while he will try to stop people from voting or make people confused, I think the reaction will be the opposite. More people are going to turn out because they're not going to let him scare them into staying silent. So I feel very good about our ability to win both the House and the Senate.

long as people continue to respond to actions that are being organized all around the country. Senator Chris Murphy, it is always a pleasure. Thank you for telling us the truth. Thank you for fighting for us and thank you to the Secret Fight Club. Really appreciate all of you guys. And good luck with your book and I hope to see you again soon. Thanks. See ya. Do you wish you could just hit skip on the worst parts of your life? You know the same way you can skip an ad? I get it. I'm Caya and I'm I live in Ice Cove. I've made some questionable decisions that didn't end up the way I planned.

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