IHIP News - Trump in Death Spiral as He Betrays MAGA and Ruins Everything! with Ben Meiselas

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:49 okay. So I have to tell y post online social where his followers. I mean the the new scan that we will Epstein hoax and my passe into this bullshit. And th ever call the Jeffrey Ep my past supporters have b And then he goes on to sa weaklings continue forward
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Starting point is 00:02:33 his supporters are weak a if anybody believes this I do not want you as a su This is a very big deal. I mea dealing with very serious dealing with a sex traffi Jeffrey Epstein was worki billionaires to sex traff
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Starting point is 00:03:22 at the Midas Touch Network since we really started, focused on this issue bec Epstein and trump are und is sinister and it is dis I like to describe it as the Epstein files. If you that the accumulation of all the Epstein out there
Starting point is 00:03:46 from criminal cases to civil cases, the full pie is 100%. About 10% has been released from cases already. If you were to run through in a chat GPT or something, who's one of the names of prominent rich people who are on this the most? Donald Trump's name would come up because Mar-a-Lago was used as the grounds and I can say this without fear because it was where Epstein would find girls to sex traffic. It happened at Mar-a-Lago and I can give you a specific example of Virginia Jou-Fray, 17 year old homeless girl gets a job at Mar-a-Lago at M spa to be the towel girl there. Delane Maxwell, wh Epstein two blocks away i
Starting point is 00:04:32 walk over. Delane finds V towel girl. Hey, I want y friend or boyfriend. Um a there and that was Epstein's M of princes and rich peopl goes tomorrow, Lago finds Maxwell goes tomorrow, L from Epstein. Trump's nam Trump's na
Starting point is 00:05:07 call logs, the black book Trump's names over there, flight logs. Trump has sa guy who likes women on th Trump's all over the depo on Trump's plane. They're partying together all of the stuff is out there. But this was MAGA's issue that they weaponized and Donald Trump dragged them along.
Starting point is 00:05:30 And usually Donald Trump gives them an out and the out that he gives them is, oh, you know, he followed the rabbit hole and we're going to do this. It'll be at a later time. The secrets will all reveal themselves. And here, the Department of Justice, their first statement was that it doesn't exist, that there is no list and we're shutting this down. So they went with that first. And then after Donald Trump said in the post that you read in others, actually, Bondi is wrong. It does exist,. It was created by Clinton Ob and all of this stuff we'
Starting point is 00:06:09 about for all of these ye gigantic democratic hoax not a real thing. Don't f stupid if you care. So th of it in my view and you it that it's also it's not a conspiracy theory of Donald Trump's links it is it is real. Right you see all these pictures of he and Epstein together I think in my Mike Wolf's book the excerpt is Jeffrey Epstein talking about his close relationship with Trump. Here's my question and this is the thing I'm sure our viewers
Starting point is 00:06:44 get tired of me asking this question, but these are the people that can find a conspiracy in Pizzagate, Jewish space lasers, all of those things, but they cannot connect these dots. I mean, there's the metadata on the video is, they didn't even clean that up well. So do you see these people, like I'm to the point now, I think that these people are kind of an abusive relationship
Starting point is 00:07:09 with Donald Trump. So they're going to, you know, he's done the gaslighting. Now he's telling him, you know, hit the road if you don't like it, that they're gonna come around. What's your thought on that? You know, I think the behavior you see is in cult behavior of cognitive dissonance of believing that your cult leader is infallible and everything they say is accurate and, you
Starting point is 00:07:33 know, the worst traits of your cult leader actually projected on the enemy and the other. So it is rooted in a psychological kind of cult behavior, but cults run their course eventually. It's very hard to get out of a cult, often because of the embarrassment and the shame of having to tell other people that you've been had and played. So people in the cults dig deeper down the rabbit hole. The difference here is Trump is now shaming them though
Starting point is 00:08:06 and saying that you are stupid and you are moronic for believing in the things that I told you. So to me, it's a little bit potentially, and I say it's potentially different here because that shame he's done, they're fearful of that shame coming from said, no, no, no, my lead I actually think that with
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Starting point is 00:10:20 And it's so super important. You have agency over your news. Please check out Ground News. I mean, this is the issue. It's not the crypto crime, it's not the jet, it's not all the corruption, it's this. And I do believe, I mean, he has beat the strum for years and years and years
Starting point is 00:10:38 about how all the Democrats are on it. And now we find out, oh, well, he's on it. So I guess my question to you is you hear back and forth like the Laura Loomers of the world, they're mad at Pam Bondi, like she's the problem. And we know that she's got thousands of pages worth of documents. And so they kind of want to make her the fall guy.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I read back and forth, but in my opinion it doesn't matter how many attorneys general you get in there, he doesn't want these files released. forth. But in my opinion, how many attorneys genera doesn't want these files think that Pam Bondi is g ultimately in this? No. A mean, the magnet influenc dissonance are trying to
Starting point is 00:11:22 must be Bondi. Okay, she she she did it. They need that. But the reality is is that it wasn't Pam Bondi. It was Trump to Pam Bondi. And by the way, Pam Bondi was the attorney general in Florida when the non prosecution agreement with Epstein was entered into. So she's got a history with the Epstein stuff as well. But Trump in that oval office disaster with the prime minister of Bahrain Bahrain said, No, no, no, I support he's got a history with t as well. But trump in tha with the prime minister o said, no, no, no, I suppo I told her to do. So he's
Starting point is 00:11:54 well. And I think it is b you know, like like the c he's really in a corner h did these things with Epst the conspiracy. That's if cornered rat or whatever, here because he really di Epstein. That's not the c if he didn't do the thing was no worry about it, he things like in a moment.
Starting point is 00:12:16 up things this past week shift engaging in mortag if anyone else was on the use to hurt them, he'd be the fi I said, and this is where which is why is he in the of this stuff is out there g I said from the outset, w
Starting point is 00:12:48 because he's on there. He the civil cases. Now by c a dough 174, wouldn't tha dough 173 and a dough 17. Isn't that dough 123456 and I would there's terabytes of file you were to appoint me as back in the day when I wa
Starting point is 00:13:19 tell you where all of the not, I know where the doc jury testimony from a 14-year-old girl. She's now a woman, 14-year-old at the time, who testified at Ghislaine Maxwell Sex Trafficking Criminal Trial, who said she was introduced at Mar-a-Lago to Donald Trump by Epstein and Ghislaine. So I would ask, let's see her testimony.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Let's see her. There are a lot of other in Epstein's office. Dona says she's not the one fo I want to see her testimon fact that these allegations are out there, Trump could still just say, well, these are allegations or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:14:12 OK, but we deserve to delve deeper and to know the facts that are surrounding this. And again, to say one of the largest, think about it like this, one of the most disgusting crimes in the history of America and the world, what Epstein did. I think that's all undisputed. To say that that's a hoax, that that's made up,
Starting point is 00:14:38 what are you saying to the victims? That's like when Donald Trump said that when he says he grabs women by their genitals and you get away with it, that's locker room talk. That's how we all talk. I mean, he has a pattern and now he's saying the biggest sex trafficking ring was all a hoax. And think about what this does for Ghislaine Maxwell now Epstein's co-conspirator. She has a golden ticket because she goes, retrial, the president of the United States says that all of this was a hoax, that the FBI and who has more access to the FBI and DOJ than the president, the president says that the FBI and DOJ essentially framed Epstein because it's a hoax and it's not real, so why am
Starting point is 00:15:20 I being tried as a co-conspirator? She's going get her, you know, she could potentially get a retrial ultimately, you know, maybe the only way she won't get a retrial is kind of like the way the markets don't collapse anymore when Donald Trump does stupid trade stuff because no one takes him at his, you know, like no serious people take him seriously. So I could see a district court judge going, well, the president said that,
Starting point is 00:15:43 but he says a bunch of crazy shit, so whatever. So I could see a district going well, the president I don't but but it's goin on trump having no credib and he has no credibility about this whole thing is Daniels. We know a playmates when the Baron his E. Jean Carroll, the b
Starting point is 00:16:17 against him. Like why Mag getting that he's a sexu understand like the super wool Christians faith family. They this was so easy to predict. But Ben, thank you so much for coming on with us. It's so fun. I hope to have I have you on again. And we so appreciate you being here. Always great to be here. Love the show.
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