IHIP News - Why Trump Immigration Policies Resonate With Racists

Episode Date: November 24, 2024

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Welcome to IHIP News. Today, Pumps, I would like to discuss immigration. Okay. And I would like to ask you personally, has immigration negatively impacted your life? No. We live in Oklahoma. We know several MAGA loyalists. Has immigration negatively impacted their lives?

To my knowledge, no. And I'm particularly talking about personal knowledge with family members that are MAGA. And I know for a fact, immigration has not adversely impacted their lives. Has it benefited their lives? Yes. They prefer immigrant labor because it is cheaper and the job is so well done and so timely done. Yet these same people are terrified of immigration.

Correct. And vote accordingly. Correct. And so if this cheap labor that they are seeking is deported, and then let's say that some Caucasian guy, a maggot guy, pulls up to their house with Trump flag on their truck, maybe has about four inches of ass crack showing, cigarette hanging out the mouth, takes six hours to do what previous immigrant labor could do in an hour, and it costs four times as much. And he's listened to crazy right wing radio the whole time. Do these MAGA loyalists, do they feel that their life is better because of this scenario I just painted? No, absolutely not. Matter than a hornet, furious, angry, will be up in arms. Well, you know, I've been thinking about this a lot. And when I think about

immigrants that I know in my life, and I think it's really cool to live in the United States, because you can go to different areas of the country or even different areas in your city, and you experience a whole different culture. And so I was thinking about people I know that weren't born here that are immigrants to the United States. You and I both go to this nail salon and we've gone there for God, I don't know, ever 15 years or something. And they're Vietnamese women.

And I love these ladies. They are, I know each of them, their name. I know what their dog's names are. They're lovely. They make my life better. They work hard. I enjoy giving them business. I enjoy my conversations with them. I enjoy everything about the experience. We, Oklahoma is not too far from Mexico. So we have a Latino community here. And I enjoy very much a woman that works for my interior design company whose family hails from Mexico. She was actually born in the United States, was a citizen.

But when we have to travel in the car a long way to go to an interior design project, I enjoy hearing about her journey and her family's journey because it enhances my life. And it's interesting. It's not just this, oh, we all were born in the suburbs and we live in cookie cutter houses and we've all had the basic same experience. I like hearing about different people's lives and journeys and it enhances my life and it makes my life better. So then I think, what is it about these people that they're so scared of immigration? And I always just go back to, it's the racism. wound up about deporting Scandinavian country immigrants as they are Venezuelan, Mexican, South American, Nigerian, African, whatever.

But they're not. No. You never hear, we've got to get the Norwegian immigrants out of the United States. We've got to get all these Brits out of here. All the Brits have to go. These French people have got to go. The Australians out. You don't ever hear that.

Never. It's the black and brown population of immigration. And here's the thing. I understand. It is not lost on me that there is a problem with border security and that if you live on the border or in Arizona, that you are affected by immigration. I personally don't have personal knowledge of what those, you know, what those fights are, but I do realize there are hardships that come from that.

And so that's somebody that is, in my opinion, has a stake in the fight regarding immigration. But what I don't understand is somebody, for example, like me, that has only benefited from immigration, why I would be have my panties in a wad over immigration. I just, I don't get it. The whole thing in Springfield, Illinois, with the Haitian immigrants who are legally protected, I'm concerned for that population. They've already been marginalized. They've already been put under threat of violence. I have no doubt that one of Trump's big shows is going to be deporting these people back to a country where they lawfully have asylum in the United States because of the regime in Haiti,

destroying people's lives when people around them in Springfield, Illinois will tell you they rebooted the economy. They're great workers. They're great neighbors. The economy is better. The housing market is better. Life is better with this influx of Haitian migrants. Are the schools overpopulated?

Do we need more services regarding the influx? Yes. And those are problems that the government is tasked with solving. But instead, we're going to uproot people, uproot their lives, because they're black and brown, and they're not born here. And it is revolting. And the human rights violations we're getting ready to see are going to be hard to watch. Maybe, you know, since nothing really penetrates with the MAGA people, maybe we just start being crazy. And we're like, we want to deport all immigrants, including white ones. Right. We want to, we want to deport the Brits, Irish, Scottish, Australians, especially Scandinavians. Especially. Especially because they seem especially white.

Yeah. Here's, here in my mind, kind of based on the back and forth we had earlier, I think for people like my family members, the only thing that's going to click in their brain is when the scenario that you suggested, that they are paying more for a service, it is happening and it takes more time, and the work is inferior. Those three things coming out of their pocket directly affecting them. That's when they might think, hmm, did we take it too far? Here's the thing, though. They might have a moment of clarity. But if somehow Trump rigs the Constitution and he

installs himself forever and blah, blah, blah, or they have to vote again. They'll vote for him again because the desire to uphold white supremacy and keep it all going is so much stronger than the desire to help people. All of the Christianity is performative. It's always this, oh, well, my Lord and Savior shows grace and forgiveness. Well, then what the fuck is wrong with you? Right. Why aren't you doing the same to other people? Right. Why are you so mad? And so it's until, in my opinion, until the Democrats have the balls to really start saying, we are so tired of these hypocrites that say one thing and do another, lying to everybody, acting like they're patriotic while supporting a man who attempted a coup d'etat until they really get really sharp in simplifying their language and quit taking the debate and defending bathroom use and defending all of these

wedge issues that the Republicans want us talking about all of that because their base believes that kids are identifying as cats and meowing in classrooms and taking shits in litter boxes. That's how gullible their base is. And so quit talking about it. Give their base the red meat on their own party. Talk about how, you know, would you allow Secretary of Defense, Department of Defense Secretary Hexeth, he's an appointee right now, a nominee. Would you allow him to take your teenage daughters to the movie? Right.

Would you allow Donald Trump to be a principal at your child's school? You know what? I kind of think they would. See, I don't think so, because I think deep down they know he's a predator. They would. You think? They voted for him to be president of the United States. When it comes to Trump, yes, they love him.

They're like, I love Jesus and I love President Trump. I mean, we're dealing with stupidity. I guarantee you every single MAGA person you know go, well, hell yeah, we'd let Trump be the principal. Yes, they wouldn't blink. They wouldn't blink. They wouldn't hesitate for one second. Well, I guess they've put him in charge of their daughter's, you know, health, her life or death medical decisions with reckless abandon. Yeah, I just think about the whole immigration thing. And I always go back to our state because it's where we live. And our governor is a very religious man. Very.

Talks about it nonstop. He was the first to say he's ready to start deporting people. And he's starting with people that are in prisons that they already have. But I never hear this man, this big Christian man, talk about how he wants to help Oklahomans that don't have access to health care, Oklahomans living in poverty. I never hear it from him. Bernie Sanders, who was an atheist Jewish man, sounds way more Jesus-y than Governor Kevin Stitt. Governor Kevin Stitt, all he wants to do is talk about DEI and bathrooms and all this crazy shit all the time in business. Oklahoma is open for business. Well, maybe if we had good health care,

right, and maybe we had a good education system, businesses would want to come here. But when these businesses see that we're led by a dipshit religious nut who's a total hypocrite, they don't want to come here. No. And the education department just keeps getting worse and worse and worse. And we're buying Trump Bibles here in Oklahoma. So, I mean, the idiocy, shit rolls downhill and it's coming in a snowball right now. And I just think it's important to point out for all of the, I like his policies. I'm a policy voter. Look at MAGA policies. Look at the bottom 10 ranked states. They're all Republican supermajorities, all led by MAGA people that voted for Trump three times. Your argument is bullshit. You like the racism. You don't give a shit about the policies because the policies

they fail. They're complete failures. And what Democrats need to do is start, you know how the Republicans attack blue cities all the time? We need to just go hard in the paint about these red states. Go hard in the paint about these rural towns. Look at what their policies do. I have an argument for that. Okay. That the Republicans might actually like. All of these red states economically are dependent on the blue states because they cannot generate enough to keep their state going.

They've used that argument all the time and I don't think that's enough. I think that even that's a little bit- Too nuanced? A little bit too nuanced. I think you say, all right, let's start looking at these red states. Oklahoma, not one county went blue. They're so proud of it. They keep popping it up everywhere.

Let's take a look. Let's look at every single thing. Here's their superintendent of school. He's a total nut, complete psycho. Audition, pick me, pick me for Trump's administration, face plants, films, weird videos in his car, buying Trump Bibles, you know, when he could have bought textbooks, all the stuff. And let's look at the education. Let's look at how it's ranked for women. Let's look at all of these rankings. And then let's, let's go through tweet by tweet, the big Christian governor, Kevin Stitt, let's go by every single

one of his tweets and dissect what an abject hypocrite this man is and what a fake Christian he is and how he uses his faith to manipulate yours and to scare you. This man is a piece of shit. He's a bad businessman. He's dumber than a box of hot rocks. His policies suck. Look at the state. It's never advanced.

The last time we had a Democratic governor in this state, guess what? We were ranked in education. I know. Yeah, we were high. Since then, we've had Republican super majority. These policies fail. They fail the economy. They fail the people.

And then I think we just start picking little redneck towns, just ripping those to shred, just like they do blue cities and just geographically just go and go and go and go and systematically take down this entire ruse that all of these white men and their women that, you know, I got to vote for my husband. You know, he's my protector. He's my protector. I submit to him. Let's just start dismantling that entire worldview. I like it. We might have a new series on our hands.

Right. That's what we'll, that's what we'll start next week. Listener. Perfect. Bye.