IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson - Building a Legacy with Ayesha and Stephen Curry

Episode Date: March 25, 2026

The Curry’s are here! On this episode of IMO, Ayesha and Stephen Curry join Michelle and Craig to chat about adjusting to life with four kids, approaching 15 years of marriage, managing their individual and joint pursuits, their new animated movie GOAT, and partnering with Michelle’s PLEZi Nutrition.Have a question you want answered? Write to us at imopod.com.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We're kind of like in the same circle of friends. Friendly. But all our conversations in high school were about either church or what are you going on Wednesday or Canadian candy. It was like talking about sweet tooth stuff. So no. It was no. No rap. No.

I don't know if I ain't have any game or if she was nervous or like vice versa. And neither one of us really kind of, it was just, you know. I feel like this is something that gets misconstrued. Okay. Okay. Publicly. Let's clear it up. This episode is brought to you by Chase Home Lending and Theraflu.

Well, it's been a while since I've seen you. It feels like a whole year. Yeah, you're doing okay? Doing fine. That's good. You look good. I feel good. Have you been losing weight?

Is that what I see? Is that just a big jacket? No, no, no. I've actually, remember the last time my knee was bothering me? Oh, yeah. It's all better so I can do more stuff, be more active. get my workout in. That's good.

And then I'm coaching, so. Yeah. Running around with these little children. And how many teams are you coaching now? So I'm coaching Aaron's eighth grade team. What's the name of their team? Junior Highlanders. What does that mascot look like?

It looks like a guy with big sideburns dressed in a kilt. Oh. You can't laugh at that. I'm sorry. Highlanders. It's like, so what's his story? Is he a Sherpa or something? No, he's more like a Scottishman.

That's with him. Help me out. The kilt. Hence the kilt. I'll do some research and find out. Please, please. But I'm coaching the A. For our listeners, we are going to find out about the Highlanders and I'm sure all the folks

in Mekwan will be reaching out to give you information because I want to know. They will. They will. So you've got the Highlanders. And then I'm the assistant coach. for the high school team, which are the actual Highlanders. Yeah. They're not called senior Highlanders.

They are the Highlanders. Okay. And they happen to be playing right now. So you're missing the game, Coach? Yeah, but that's okay because we have a couple of, yes. Why Coach Robinson is absent. I'm, and the whole team will be ecstatic. And I'm very excited because, see, you know these two, and I'm just meeting them for the first time, if you can believe that.

I didn't realize that you hadn't met. I mean, I worked in the NBA for five years and I would come out before the games when we would play Golden State and I'd see him doing his workout. And I always wanted to go introduce myself and say, you know, I'm Michelle Obama's brother, but I didn't have the nerve to interrupt his workout. I'm looking forward to talking to Aisha because I probably other than them, I'm the only person who's been to the international spoke at this table. Oh, you've been to international smoke. Oh, yes, I have. Okay. Well, let's bring them on.

Okay, let me give their proper introduction. I will do that. All right. So, Stefan Curry, on and off the court legacy is underscored by transformation and innovation. He is a four-time NBA champion, 12-time All-Star, New York Times best-selling author, an Olympic gold medalist. And now I have to say he's like. He's an actor because did you see goat? I sure did.

That was fun, wasn't it? I sure did. But the real, the real star of the couple is. The star of the couple is Aisha Curry. My girl. A renowned restaurateur, chef, two-time New York Times bestselling author, actress, producer, and CEO of Sweet July Skin. Her accessible approach to cooking has made her one of the most sought-after experts in food and lifestyle. So without further ado, please welcome Aisha and Stefan Curry.

The Curries are in the house. What's going on? Thank you for being here. Absolutely. Thanks for being here. Hello. Good to see you. Come on in.

Great to see you too. Welcome to IMO. You don't even have to move the chair. I usually have to scoot the chair out. Well, welcome. Welcome, you guys. Thank you for having us. And taking the time, y'all got busy lives, but you're here with us.

And we are grateful, excited. Aisha and I are text buddies. We are. Because you're too busy. I'm not too busy. You were just too busy. You know, I know we've become friends, but sometimes I'm still teetering on the line of, I don't want to send too many texts.

I know. And I tell you, it's like, I'm not that nice. So if I don't want to talk to you. You're like, I won't respond. So I will not. She ghosts me sometimes. I do not. That's not true.

No, that's not true. She texts me back right away. But we've gotten to know one of the other, on so many different levels. Barack loves you to death, loves you both. But excited because we're partners. Yes, we are. You know, and our wonderful new venture, Plessy, Plezzi Nutrition. and Stefan and Iisha, you guys are the key behind the formulation of our new hydration drink.

So, so glad to be working with you on that. And I want to just start by asking why. What makes you excited about Plessy? I know what makes me excited, but... You want to start? Sure. So I think for me, it was our kids. 100%.

So our kids really gravitated towards all of the samples. when we were doing the sampling. And we looked at each other and they were like, no, they really like this. And then we started to try and we were like, wait, we really like this. And then when you have something that can be for the kids, it can help you on the court.

And then if you mix it with a little tequila, it's nice as well. Mixer and you're winning. Okay. So that really was the key component for us. Did our kids love it? 100%. And to that, like the energy we got from them,

obviously our first conversation with you about how much time energy was put into what was in the bottle in the can, the roadmap of, you know, a full-scale offering from, you know, nutrition standpoint. And then now with hydration being a key focus, it's exciting to bring it into the world of sports in the way. But there's such a much more educated, you know, kid and family consumer now in terms of,

what's going on the bottle. Obviously, the taste has to be great. But we're trying to check all of those boxes. I think, I mean, we're all biased, but I think we accomplished that for sure. I would say you're not biased because the Robinson boys, I've got 16 and 14, both play hoops, play others. They play sports.

When Mish sent us a case of it, I was like, no way they're going to drink this because they don't like other hydration drinks. And they were like, whoa. What is this? And it was gone in a week. So we can't keep it in our friends. Cudos to you guys.

Speaking of kids, y'all got a lot of kids. We have a lot. We have a lot. We have that same amount. You all got a right amount of kids. Thank you. The right amount of kids. It's a blessing.

It's wonderful. But yours are closer in age. Yeah. Although you got that the baby outlier. He is the outlier. He's a year and a half-ish. Because you all have three and three and three and then... Yep.

And then six. Sixth grade. Big gap. So high school and diapers right now. So now, given the way... So you're both come from multiple sibling families. Did you always want to have a lot of kids? Or did this sort of just happen organically?

I'm sure it happened organically. That's like, that's a good Craig. Do we have to start with the birds and the beads? No, I'm just going to. Growing up, I never saw myself there. But as an adult and like when we fell in love, we always said three. Yeah. And we had the three.

Yeah. And then we kind of got that itch and we were looking at each other. Like it feels like someone's missing. It's like we would get in the car and be like, everybody in here and feel like someone wasn't there. It was more of the conversation. On the daily of just having that, like, do we want another one? And I was more, if I remember Greg, I was more on like, yeah, let's do it. But then, you know, it would flip to where every six months, be like, I'm off of it because, you know, the schedules are crazy.

The juggling of the three kids. And then she had some rough pregnancies too. So it's a part of the consideration of putting her through. you know, something that's, you know, severe. Even with our third kid, Canon, she had hyper-emesis pretty much the whole time. And so that was another consideration. And just so people know, because we can do some education on that front. Because that, you know, more and more women, particularly women of color.

Yes. Can you talk, you feel comfortable talking a bit about? Of course, yeah. I feel like with the four kids, I maybe am well-bursts. Yes, yes. But I, you're speaking to the. hyper-emesis, right? Yes. So it's interesting, especially as a black woman within our community, it's oftentimes the pain, the sickness is kind of written off within the health care system.

And so women will go in and won't be taken seriously because they'll look at you and be like, well, you don't look like you're in pain or you don't look like something's wrong. And when you say pain, what was just constant? On top of the dehydration, just constant sickness. Yeah. It's essentially morning sickness all day amplified times 10. Oh. And sometimes your blood pressure.

Throughout the duration of the pregnancy. Throughout the entire pregnancy up until delivery. And so I would encourage like any women who are expecting if you're feeling that way to just continuously advocate for yourself. Yeah. If you're feeling like something's not right, keep going back. until somebody listens. Because it's not great to sit in agony like that.

And Stefan, how were you a sport in this? What did you do? You were great. Especially because with our third child, Kenan, and we had the blessing I was, most of all three of our babies are July babies. It's our season. Especially that last six weeks, eight weeks,

I was fully available. And then, you know, throughout the season, just trying to be as supportive as I could. And the sense of if she, she had to go in and out of the hospital countless times, especially for with our last one. Spended stays. What's the unit? The anti-part. Yes, the anti-part.

But I was trying to, obviously, just be as supportive and understanding of if I need to pick up some of the other, you know, responsibilities, especially with the kids or that was my, I know, I know. It's hard to say it because you were going through agony, but it was my favorite part of it. And since she could be as focused on taking care of herself and baby Kaias at the time, and I could kind of be there to support and take care of and run the kids around and make sure that they knew what was going on also. But we're going to let mom handle this and she's going to be good and she's in the right place.

So that's the hardest thing I know. You feel like you're always missing out or like one of the kids has a, you know, they all want attention, right? And they all deserve the attention. but it's hard to kind of manage all of that, especially through her last pregnancy. I was trying to do my part there. But I have no idea what hyperableness feels like, but I've seen her face. I've seen her go through it.

And it's like to the point of that amplification, when she said, morning sickness times 10, I saw it up close and personal. What's your community of support, period, right? I mean, you guys are so busy. And with the season, look, I had a husband who was in the state legislature, and then D.C., right? And it's almost like a season. He could come home on the weekends, right?

But we had our kids in the midst of that, and Barack was really hands-on. I mean, the one reason why I always say, like, I slept in those early years because we would divide up the time. I mean, I would go to bed at eight, you know, or nine, do that last feeding, and then pump. And I would just go to sleep, cover my ears,

and just let him have the night, right, up until the last feeding, because he stayed up late. How did you guys, how do you guys manage that as kids? Yeah. So with our first three, I, and people would advocate for me and be like, get some help, get some help. I had this strange sense of pride and this need to prove that I, and I, and people would advocate for me and be like, get some help, get some help. I had this strange sense of pride and this need to prove that I could be super mom. And so I didn't do those things.

And I was exhausted. And then with his line of work, his games go so late. Normal day-to-day schedule. He also, he's a bit of a deep sleeper. When you said Barack was up all night, I was like. Right. He was like, oh, that wouldn't be me. So, like, kids are screaming.

And he's like, hello. Literally. Yes. Yes. Oh, man. So then you just kind of give up on that. And so I was, it was. It was me.

It was trying to wake him up. I paid for it, though. I paid for it, like, mentally and physically. So then with Kai Kai, with our fourth now, I said, you know what? We are so fortunate to have the resources to have a little bit of help. So I actually got this. time around got had a night nurse to get those six, eight hours. And we're Van Winkle over here.

And then I decided to go to the Olympics like, four weeks after Caius was born. Oh, right. And so it added a little wrinkle into the support. She did. She did. Our family is starting to plan for trips this summer. Aside from all the basketball travel you've heard. you talk about, we want to make time for a family vacation. And we're hoping to travel internationally

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you guys meeting first as youngsters and then how you remet. Because I have some questions. It's crazy. So the long story short is in high school, I lived in Charlotte and her family had moved down to Charlotte from, she's from Toronto to start high school. And so I'm a year older. And we went to the same, ended up going to the same youth group at the same church, Central Church of God in Charlotte, North Carolina. Shout out. Yes, Pastor Levison, the whole crew.

We ended up eventually getting married there, and he officiated our wedding, so it was awesome, full circle. But we met there, we were kind of like in the same circle of friends. Friendly. But all our conversations in high school were about either church or what are you going on Wednesday or Canadian candy. It was like talking about sweet tooth stuff. So no. It was no. No rap.

No. I don't know if I ain't have any game or if she was nervous or vice versa. And neither one of us really kind of, it was just, you know. I feel like this is something that gets misconstrued. Okay. Publicly. Let's clear it up. So, no, it's not that you didn't have game.

I was 14 years old. I'm not a kid. Okay. Yeah, that does make a difference. That is 14. Yeah. No, I'm putting you years. But did I think you were cute?

Absolutely. Mm-hmm. But did you, I also heard you had a no athletes rule. That is true. So tell me about that. A very disrespectful comment also on my part. It's so, it's honestly. Thank you.

No, that's really nice to use it. Why is that disrespectful? I had very textbook, maybe misconceptions. Kind of frame of like movie plots. Movie plot ideas of athletes, the jock stereotype. I was a theater. a theater nerd. So I think I was protecting my piece

and just, I don't know, the teacher, it was an activity one day in class and she said, write down what you would look for. And it was in capital letters. Like, God is funny. It was in capital letters. And my parents found it way down the road.

I want to say like maybe eight years ago in an old box and they were like, ha, ha, look at this. And I'm like, oh, wow, it's embarrassing. But yeah, I don't know. It was just an activity in class that she had us to. But I definitely did say that. And I think I did think that too.

Because I remember our first, he calls it a date. It was definitely that. He calls it a date. I worked. I worked out. I was in LA. I came out here. My sophomore year in college, I came out here. And I knew she had moved out here to pursue acting.

So I hit her up when I was. on my way. It was me and my dad coming out. And I actually ditched my dad. We were supposed to go to this party, have, you know, or like this dinner and this party. But I told him, hey, I'm going to hang out with Aisha. Like, you're cool hanging out here.

I thought I was going to be gone like two hours and come back. And it was in the rest of the night. She picked me up and the astro vans she had out here. And we rolled around Hollywood, like all the touristy stuff you could do in L.A. So, Stefan, were you always thinking about her? 100%. 100%. Really?

We didn't really talk that much when I went to college. You know, back in the day, the Facebook message type thing. Were you shy? Oh, for sure. For sure. Would you say that, Aisha? Did he? He didn't come across.

I'm shy. And I'm an introvert. He didn't come across that way at all. What was he? Was he Mr. Talking charisma walking around? Yeah, he talked a lot, super competent, very charismatic, very knowledge. about what? Just a cool.

Any, like something to say about any subject matter. Oh, so he was opinionated. He could hold a conversation really well. But he was funny. And I think that that was the most

important thing because going into us hanging out, we had never really hung out before. And so going it on our own. And so going into that day, I didn't know who I was picking up. I picked him up in my 90 years later. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And I didn't know who I was going to get. And it was the second he got in the car, it just felt like we were best friends. And we've literally been together since that day. That's cool. Shout out to what was that? 2008. When over the course of the date, Aisha, did you feel like, oh.

There was a moment when, I mean, we were two young kids. So we were just doing, it was silly. When we were looking for the donuts. Oh, yeah. And the typical. We were looking in cop cars to see if they had donuts in the stereotypes. We were kids. And I think the way that we were laughing with each other

and how we just got a kick out of such a ridiculous situation, I was like, oh my gosh, I really like him. But I didn't, this is another thing that gets misconstrued. People for some reason think that in the past I've said that he wasn't my type. Yeah. But what I was saying was, I didn't think I was his type. Yeah.

Because this was Mr. Cool. Yeah. And so I kind of sold myself short in thinking like, oh, there's no way. He must just like me as a friend. Aisha. So I won't even take it that. I'm glad it did. Aisha.

She left the door open. I'm glad I didn't get friends on. I was going to say. Every time I texted her call, she picked up the phone after that after. I was on full-course press phone. After that date, for sure. Yeah, yeah. See, we guys know that you're all in charge.

Yes. When I finally realized that that was the direction it was going in, I verbalized that to him, that I was confused. Because if there's one thing I'm going to do, I'm going to speak my mind. Yeah. But he looked at me because he had come to my house for two weeks. weeks straight at the time my parents' house. So that in Chip you all.

She said, you said, you think I've been coming over here every night for the past two weeks to play video games with your brothers? I was like, oh. It's like that makes a lot of sense. I'm glad it all happened. For sure. It was a beautiful kind of reconnection at that point. Well, it's really interesting to hear that story and then see you guys now with all the stuff you've got going on. Kids, businesses, you know, you're still playing. You're doing your

thing. Everything. All the stuff. And you guys feel like, at least it's my perception from the outside looking in that you work really well together. Can you talk about that relationship now, how that's evolved given how you met and? Well, from my perspective, the biggest thing is we've learned each other as we've gone through, you know, even when things get a little rocky or, you know, as obstacles you have to go over, people feel stressed out or, you know, overwhelmed or whatever the case are. We're always working towards the same goal of being there for each other. And I think that's been such a rewarding experience through these 15 years, almost 15 years of marriage. And also acknowledging, like, you don't know everything either. And you're still learning. You're still

learning. You're still growing. And trying to have humility through. it. I think we try to also approach all of this from like it's just us mentality and realizing like even with the kids, the kids are going to grow up and they're going to leave us. And so we always come back to center like with each other and even with all of like the business. And yes, we're going to try to make an impact. We're going to try to do decent things in the world. But at the end of the day, all of this is so fleeting. Yeah. And so making sure that we, at the center of it all, realize that it's us in this together.

We've vowed to do this together from day one. And so as long as we keep that, I think that's kind of what's kept us going. Aisha, I love that you are plain spoken in life. And sort of like me, sometimes, you know, you're stating what feels like the obvious sometimes in life and then people interpret that the wrong way, right? And, you know, I love your vulnerability and your honesty because I think that's what helps people. You know, it's like, it's one thing to be hashtag relationship goals, but it's another to tell the truth about what it takes. And I tend to do that when I talk about the challenges of marriage and that it's not all

that. It's like, I love my husband. I like my husband, you know, but we also want to be a part of helping couples understand that it does take work and it is hard, even in the best marriages. Can you talk a little bit more about that? Knowing that this is a safe space of not judgment, everybody understands humility and blessings, but it takes work. And so you don't want to give up on something when it starts to get hard in the way that. it's naturally going to be. Yeah. I think anything great takes work. Yeah. So I agree with that. I think we're living in this age right now. Everybody wants to romanticize everything. Yeah. And that's a beautiful thing, but I think it's unrealistic in marriage at times. Because growth is inevitable and change is inevitable. And I think that's

beautiful thing. Like if you're, if you expect it to stay the same for 15, 20 years. Like that's not. It's sad. It's sad. Then there's a problem. So. We don't run away from the tension.

Yeah. On the daily of like, again, I think I heard somebody say like neither one of us can quit on the same day as a philosophy of understanding. You should know your significant. I know the best and understand, you know, when they might. might be and they might need a little pick me up or you to carry a little bit more than a load or vice versa. I subscribe to that philosophy, but also like the tension and the daily, like we try

not to run away from it. You run towards it because you know that that's going to help you get to that next level of, I don't know, togetherness or just the seasons of life that kind of come at you. And so for us, if you feel like something's not, if your marriage is not perfect, you're You're probably right and that's okay. No, nobody's, huh? Nobody's is. Let's talk about how you're raising the kids, you know, the values, how you're thinking about

what kind of people you want them to be. Are you parenting the girls differently from, and the boys are babies. It's an interesting dynamic with the two older girls and the two younger boys. I'm grateful that the girls arrived first. because when the boys get to the girl's age now, I feel like you'll be done playing and is very important to me for them to have him around more. Very important.

And so I'm just grateful that that's how it worked out. But it is parenting's hard. Sure is. Especially now we have a 13-year-old. She's going to go to high school next year. We're doing the whole high school thing. Is she scary? Yeah, I am.

And I'm in any, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in a, I'm in a need you these next couple of years. I'm here. It gets, because sometimes, well, Barack got scared, you know. He got scared off. Sasha, the, the feisty one was very scary to her father. There's a lot of scoreboard watching going on in our house. I call it where why can't I do that? And why can't, oh, and how you parent.

you have to parent each one them a little different. Right. As the older they get, the more they notice that. You know, that's, it means something to,

at all these stages, to, you know, just have these honest conversations where your kids can, they can disagree with you. They can point out stuff because it's like,

I think that gave us the confidence that you need, when you're out there and you, and at some point, you've got to advocate for yourself in life.

Oh, for sure. Right. And if you don't feel, like you've been taught to advocate for yourself at home? Like, then who, you know, where do you get the practice of speaking up for yourself and demanding a level of respect and then how to do it? You know, all of that stuff is practice at home around the table, which doesn't require any money. You know, it doesn't require, my parents didn't go to college. They didn't, you know, they weren't wealthy and connected, but they had just a baseline common sense and a respect for us as humans

that just sort of came through. And I say that to all parents, because we sit here very privileged, right, with resources and so on and so forth. But we weren't raised, we were raised in a little bitty apartment with a mother that stayed home and a father that was a pump engineer at the water filtration plant all his life. I think he never had. rarely got a new car. You know, we went on one family vacation every year and drove to this Duke's Happy Holiday Resort. We did not have resources, but we had parents who fundamentally liked us and the same way that you build that like relationship in a marriage. It's like your kids have to know that you like who they are truly for themselves. This episode

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but I'm doing really well. I feel like I'm kind of in a I don't want to say the word smooth sailing because I don't want to jinx myself in the parenting department. You'll be doing that until you're 60. The parenting situation is feeling really good.

You know, we had our fourth and so I'm feeling comfortable in my body again. I'm feeling more like myself. And that's such a good feeling. and also allows me to be a better parent in some strange way because I feel like I know who I am again. And so that's been really great. How do you carve out the space to take care of yourself in the midst of it all?

I never used to do it and now I just make it a priority. I don't know how else to say it. I put it on the calendar. I make it a priority and I get it done. Oftentimes now, even just for getting my body moving and getting outside. I just bring the baby along with me and we get it done.

But I find I have to like be outside multiple times a week. I notice a difference from a mental health perspective. And so... Because you can be with four kids. It's like you could be in the house forever. And they have so much going on themselves.

The house or the car. I know every time we talk to you all, You all are in the car. The first meeting we had, or the first call we had. That's ridiculous. We were in the back of the car. I was like, do they live in the car? We were at a soccer game.

Yeah. We were trying to go to the soccer game. And I was like, we got it. Brock and I go, go to watch the game. We were at the soccer game. We were in the sprinter and the kids were so mad at us because they don't like when we bring the sprinter to school because it's embarrassing. Really? Are you kidding?

Oh, they're so in there. Oh, my good. They just want to be regular people. See, Austin and Aaron are like, can we get a sprinterman? That's until their parents come out of one. I mean, Malian Sasha never wanted Barack to come to their stuff with the presidential motorcade. You talk about it? Yeah.

I mean, they're just like, that just don't come. Oh, yeah. Don't come. Why are those men on the roof with machine guns? But they don't like. It's printer, huh? No. The girls, though.

They don't at all. How do you manage integrating into normal parent life? I know that was something that we had to work on. I mean, how do you make your kids feel normal? I guess. It's a challenge for sure. You know, worried about, we're at the, like, sleep overnights or, you know, extracurriculars, especially with Riley, she wants to be a little bit more independent.

And can you drop me off here and do this? And like meeting new parents and not making it a big deal, but making sure there's boundaries around how we move so that we feel safe. And if we feel safe, then it allows us to take that necessary step. I feel like to allow your kid to explore, right? You want them to be curious. It's just showing up, I think it's the biggest deal that you meet people,

We definitely show up. We do try to, in terms of, like, especially for sports activities, school activities, that type of thing where for our kids and seeing, like, that's how we, normal is a weird word, but that's a normal experience. Like, we're going to be at your game. We're going to be loud, yelling, going crazy. We're going to be embarrassing you after your theater production performance. Yes, yes, we do do that. We do all of that. Braden myself.

and celebrate them, right? I think we try to do that. The social part of it, there's challenges, there's considerations that we never thought we'd have to make or take to make sure you can let your kids kind of go out and thrive. But part of that too is, again, still learning because every year is a little different. It's all so weird.

It is weird. I think we're doing a good job of, allowing them to feel very normal. I don't know how y'all did it to the point of... You know, it's all the same thing. You know, like the girls growing up, they didn't want people to come to their house, the White House, because it felt like it's not a normal house.

And I was like, I guarantee you your friends want to come. Yes. They want to watch a movie in the movie theater. It's like, why would somebody want to come here? Yeah. And I was like, but they do. So it took them a second to kind of understand that it's not, it isn't normal from where they came from in Chicago,

but it is their normal. And I think it's like everything, our kids reacted the way we reacted. So if we showed up special. Yeah, exactly. You know, if we just showed up and was like, look the other way. We're just here.

It's not a big deal. You know, then slowly they followed suit. And I also found that the school environment followed suit. They meet you where you're in. Yeah, yeah. You'd hope so. Yeah, it's wonderful. And just watching kids develop, giving them what we can, it's, it is a joy to go to practice every day with my old self.

and rickety bones, but it's really been a treat. You won't even be as old as him when. I know, you'll be able to get out there with him. Show him some things. I show him that I can shoot just for some credibility. Absolutely. And then that's it. It's one of the kids, wait, Aisha, one of the kids asked me, today he was so,

I mean, these are high school kids, right? He's a senior and he's like, hey, Coach Robinson, can you still get up there and dunk? And I felt, I felt bittersweet, you know. It was nice of him to think that I could dunk. But not being able to dunk anymore was the bitter part. It's like, can you still jump? Yeah. And speaking of basketball, how did you guys decide to do goat?

How did that all come about? Oh, that was so good. Was kind enough to let us take a look at that. It's coming out today. It's out today. I know we're dating this beer. It's out today. It's so good.

Thank you so much. It's been a seven-year journey, to be honest. Yeah. Animation takes forever. And then that initial process of working with the Sony Animation and Sony Studios. We had an initial meeting. And then the idea of having an animated story that was sports-related. Then brought me in basketball in an all-animal world was kind of just to start.

starting point. And my favorite part about the whole thing is there's something for the entire family. Comedy is high pace, high action. The visuals are stunning in the all animal world. And Aisha is the she's Carol, the

diner. Oh, yeah. Who's kind of, who's always looking out for. When you guys were sort of working through this, was it always you were going to be in it as well? No. How did that come about? Because you all are darn right. good at. I was drafting

over her because I've never done voice acting and she's been acting her whole life. And so when we had the opportunity to do some of the characters and look at, you know, how were we filling out the team and Lenny the draft was the exact opposite of me as a player

in a person. He's like, the layback kind of not really focused is kind of there. He's been cast around the entire Roarball league. He's played for 10 different teams in 10 years. He likes music more than he likes Roarball. He wants to rap.

He wants to rap. There's a little bit more on the nose for, you know, the culinary kind of connection for Carol the diner. But that whole, I don't know how you felt from the voice, I think, perspective. It was so much fun. It's so different from being on your traditional set. There's a lot that goes into the voice work. I wanted to have a different voice so bad. You wanted to completely change your voice.

So what would have been? Change your voice. You would have been your voice. I want to hear what you wanted. I gave them a sample. And they looked at me after and they were like, just, I think your regular voice will stuff. Yeah. What was it?

I wanted to be like, you don't get in a pie. Or maybe have a Jamaican accent. You're like, hey, Waguay. Welcome, welcome. They were like, no. They were like, no, your regular voice was great. Thank you. Well, your regular voice was great. Congratulations.

Thank you very much. Way to go. All right, just another thing on their caps. How is it working together? I mean, I work with my husband sometimes. You know, I mean, you are essentially two principles, okay? For sure. Right?

I mean, it's not like Aisha's your supporting cash. She's got her own thing. Maybe I should ask Aisha. Yeah. How do you, you know, how do you break through the noise of him? Yeah. As you were working to assert what you want your vision to stay seen in it all, because you have definitely done that. And I know it's more than a notion to do that.

Yeah. I think that's an interesting question. very multi-pronged. But I think, do I like working with him? Absolutely. I love it. We shot a show years ago called About last night. And we had so much fun on set together.

I think where it gets dicey for me is where I never want to feel like I'm inserting myself or like just being thrown into the mix. I think because I work so hard and sometimes I do feel like I have a point to prove. And so I like to be able to kind of stand on my own two feet sometimes. But I feel like he's always been so gracious about either bringing me along or hyping me up or like truly putting me on a pedestal even when I don't want to be up there. And he's been so great about just being such a support system for me and truly like my partner in crime. he's never been like stand back here or stand right here.

It's always like, no, you're going to stand right here with me. And I think that's been that to me is very romantic. Yeah. So I love that he's always done that for me and been that person for me, kind of my confidence when it's maybe lacking in myself. And it gets easier over time.

I mean, I've been saying this a lot. It's like I'm 62. now. And it wasn't until my 50s that I felt like I could claim what I know. I understood. You know, and I think that may be a woman thing, right? I mean, men are encouraged to, you know, like, you're a man at 20. It's like you don't know anything.

You know, I mean, you both were the men in high school. You didn't know anything. I didn't know. But you're handed that, you know, you're encouraged to be that, right? Whereas us as women, we're always second-guessing ourselves and wondering he doesn't really like me and is. We don't get to make the first move sometimes in life, you know?

And I'm trying to figure out what that is because it's not that I wasn't confident, but it took me a while to be like, I know what I'm talking about. You guys are both so accomplished at such a young age. What have

you learned from Aisha and Aisha, what have you learned from Stefan? I've learned from Aisha what true ambition and passion really looks like on a daily basis and that's not just career-wise, that's for your family. She lives every day with her full self. And I know it's scary and vulnerable at times because you want to kind of protect yourself

and she puts herself out there. And I'm a little bit more reserved in that respect. And that fire, like, I wish I had more of it. I can get there on the court and, like, you know, you have those moments. But on a daily basis, like, I'm a little bit more kind of even-kew. And I wish I had that instinct, like just, she has that on a daily basis. And it motivates me just, you know, when things can get a little drag or, you know, things aren't really going your way or there's not really a clear path to get what you want.

Like that fire and that passion is a big deal. I definitely have learned a little bit from the way that she shows up in that way. That's a lot from a guy who's got four championships. It's different. Well, that's all he's got. No, I'm just, I'm messing with you, Stefan. I think I've learned from him on the flip side or what I'd like. What was it what I'd like from you?

Learned from what I've learned from you. I think on the flip side of what he said about me, for me, he is so even keeled. And he can compartmentalize really big emotions very well. And he does know how to block out the noise. And so I've learned little by little, I think, how to do more of that. Because like you said, I am very passionate and fiery. and sometimes it works, but sometimes it doesn't, and vice versa.

And then I think I've learned this unwavering work ethic. I've never seen anything like it, but it obviously manifests itself in how things work out for him in his basketball career. I'm like, tomorrow he'll be up 6.30, you know, working on himself. when he doesn't necessarily have to. And so I've just year after year after year seen him do things when he doesn't have to. And then I see the results that come from that and it's extremely inspiring.

Oh my God, yeah. Thank you. Let's bottle some of that up and sprinkle it over the man. That's very simple. sweet. Thank you. I'm so proud of you too. Oh, stop, stop. All right, we're going to do the listener question because the listener

question will lead to a little more discussion. Yeah, yeah. So, our question today is from Vivian in Raleigh, North Carolina. Oh, Vivian, shout out. I am the first of three children,

two girls and one boy. It always seems I'm the mother of everyone. from my parents to my siblings, then to my spouse in 12-year-old. I recently lost my dad, so it's been very hard on my mom. She wants me to call daily and respond to all the texts daily. I love my entire family, and I want to be there for them. But I'm also a registered nurse, and I owe it to my pediatric patients and their families

to give them excellent care. I am working to go back to school to become a family nurse practitioner or go to medical school. I feel I am not enough. But my husband believes that I am smart and I can do all things through Christ. I am also a precinct official.

Thanks to your book. Now they want me to take on more research. responsibilities and fear is gripping me, but I really want to do more. I was privileged to go canvassing with my daughter knocking on doors. She was so excited about doing what Mrs. Obama did with her dad. My question is, how can I juggle all this as to look fly, be a great daughter, sister, wife, and a mom? I don't even know where to start. The first thing that comes to mind for me

is like thinking of the cups and not these cups, but how they say you can't pour from an empty cup. And I think for women, I think that statement is false because generally women have many cups. There are many cups we're dealing with. And so I, like my advice, is it advice?

Yeah. Would be. Your opinion, my opinion, yes, that's right, would be, I mean, also, as women, we tend to ruminate on things when we're in a different situation, thinking about all the other things that need to go on. And so I think my opinion would be to realize, separate everything into these separate cups and realize when you're pouring into that cup, it's just that cup in that moment. And to try and tune everything else out and get to it when you need to get to it. to it so that you can fully give yourself to whatever it is that you're focusing on at that time, whether it's, you know, at the hospital or with your mom or with the kids or whatever else it is you're doing, I think there will be so much peace of mind if you can just compartmentalize those

moments. You got to applaud her and her. For sure. Yes. The responsibility that she's carrying for so many people that she knows and she knows and doesn't know or she's beating on a daily basis at her at her work have grace for you with yourself too i'd say too because those days where you don't feel like you're you're killing it probably the days that you're killing it the most yeah but it's also okay not to kill it that's true that's true

but having grace with yourself i guess is the biggest piece of um yeah as you as you as you and hopefully she can set healthy healthy boundaries for herself as she goes to aspire for What does that mean? People should be able to support her and her endeavors as well in the sense of like, I don't know how much her mom reaches out or feels like it's maybe a burden at times or maybe not. But if there's moments where she can have the space to go after the things that she wants to and she creates that room for herself, the boundaries out of people respect that and allow her to, you know, go pursue what she wants to. too and that it's okay.

Even if somebody else gets the short end of the stick for a day or a week or a month, that's kind of a, it's not a bad thing. Actually, I think I read that in your first book, and you said, say no, they will be okay and we'll move on. That's exactly, yeah. It's just what I wrote down. Learn to say no. Yeah, yeah. Well, and, you know, look, Vivian sounds like, and I say this less,

She sounds like what I call a 120 percenter, you know, like everybody around this table. Like, you don't think you're killing it when you were doing everything. It's like that extra percentage and you feel like, okay, now I'm putting it in. When, you know, life can be okay at 70 percent and sometimes at 40 percent and at 30 percent, you know. I'm learning right now. Yeah, you're starting to learn. And it's a sort of a conglomeration of what we've all said. It's like you can't do everything at 120 percent.

And you can't and you don't have to. And you learn that over time. Like maybe you can't be there for your mom in the exact way that she wants you to be there for her. And it's okay, right? Because maybe if you're not given 120% to your mom and 40% at times, somebody else will come in. Yeah. But if she's trying to fill all the cups herself, you know, there's no vacuum for need, right? If you're doing it all.

Some people who aren't 20%, 120%ers, they'll be a 20%er a lot. She may be surrounded by their siblings that are just putting in 20% because Vivian's going to do that all. You know? If you don't say you need help, nobody is going to help you, you know? So I say do less. Write that down. Do less.

Do less. And learn to be okay with it. That's... No, actually, I was just sitting here thinking... I was just sitting here every time you say 120, I'm like, dang, people probably don't even see the 20. No, they don't. They don't even know it's there.

all in here that's in your mind and heart and you're measuring yourself. Yeah. And people are like, you know, like you say no and they're like, okay, fine, next. Yeah. You know? But I like the cups metaphor because people don't see all the cups you see. Mm-hmm. Right?

You see all these cups and they're like, ooh, those three cups, you're handling things. They don't even know you got six others. I got the table. Yeah, table full of cups. That's a good point. Well, Vivian, I hope that was helpful. Absolutely. Yeah.

But like you said, Stefan, props to you for holding it down. You know, it's like there are a lot of people out in the world who are trying to do it all. And hopefully this, you know, gives you some guidance, takes a load off. And you don't feel guilty about, you know. Looking out for yourself every now and then. Good advice. Okay. Great advice.

Well, what's next for the Curries? Not like there has to be because we just talked about that, but... I know. What are you looking forward to? Like, not even projects, but just life. We have our 15-year wedding anniversary this summer. Very happy about that. Yay.

Congratulations. But 17th year in the league, see how many more years on the court. And hopefully it's not over too soon. But it is at that stage we start to think about, you know, appreciate it every year. Because. But then after that, who knows? We're very bad at predicting the future. At least I am.

I said, no, next year's not going to be that crazy. Right, right. Okay, I said that. All right, next year. Has it been like that for 15 years? And then you got to hear about it from me. I'm the master at that. Yeah, I have, I'm married to one of those.

It's like, you just get so optimistic. Right. Oh my God. I call it poor executive function. It's like, you know, it's going to take a lot of work to do that. And everything is so big. Every idea is so big. It's just, it's just exhaust. Well, it's been great having you guys.

Thank you so much. Absolutely. Thank you so much for dropping all the knowledge and being vulnerable and open. And Aisha, take care of yourself, your sanity. I will. It's just noise. Yes. Right?

The truth is right before you. And I will fight somebody. Yes. That's it. That's it. Don't. Thank you. And Stefan, take your time.

You don't have to leave soon. I got you. I got you. No, this has been great. Thank you. We appreciate the time. Thank you for making us feel comfortable. Absolutely.