IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson - Music of My Mind from 'The Wonder of Stevie'
Episode Date: September 26, 2024Higher Ground listeners! We'd like to share the first episode of an exciting new Audible Original podcast. It's called The Wonder of Stevie.You might think you know Stevie Wonder. You might t...hink you know his music. But you’ve never heard it like this. Host Wesley Morris is taking you on a deep-dive through Stevie's Classic Period: five legendary albums back-to-back in just four years. Hear about the record deal that started it all, the technology Stevie adopted to create never-before-heard sounds, and his influence on our culture. There will be appearances from legends like Barack and Michelle Obama, Questlove, Smokey Robinson, Dionne Warwick, Babyface, Janelle Monae and more. In this episode, Wesley details how, years after signing his first recording deal with Motown Records, Stevie decides to renegotiate his contract. One of the things on the table? Complete creative freedom. What follows is the beginning of one of the greatest streak of albums in American popular music: Music of My Mind.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Hey listeners, this is Wesley Morris. I'm a critic at the New York Times, and I'm here to tell you about a new podcast I'm hosting. I think you'll like it. It's called The Wonder of Stevie. And even if you think you know about Stevie Wonder, even if you think you know his music, you've never heard it quite like this. We're going to take you on a deep dive through Stevie's classic period, five legendary albums back to back in less than five years.
From the record deal that started it all
to the technology Stevie used to create never-before-heard sounds
to his influence on our culture.
I'm speaking with Stevie lovers like Barack and Michelle Obama,
Quest Love, Smokey Robinson, Dionne Warwick, Babyface, Janelle Monnet, and more.
Join me and revisit all the wonder Stevie's music has to offer.
Okay, here comes a little taste.
You can listen to The Wonder of Stevie on Audible or wherever you're listening right now.
Original's Higher Ground Audio and Pineapple Street Studios present The Wonder of Stevie,
hosted by Wesley Morris.
Listen at that baseline.
That's an engine pumping.
We're about to drive somewhere.
No, no, no, no, no.
We're about to fly.
Is the beginning of love having you around.
The first song on Music of My.
mind, the first album in a run of albums by Stevie Wonder, a run almost universally understood
to be the most miraculous, most inspired streak in the history of American popular music.
They call it Stevie's classic period.
This song is the sound of someone turning into someone else.
You don't often get to hear what that sounds like,
but that's what's happening right here in this song.
Musical adolescence becoming musical adulthood,
acts body spray getting swapped for Cologne.
This song is the moment that little Stevie Wonder,
Motown Records' boy genius, becomes just Stevie Wonder.
The visionary who's about to change everything, himself, Motown,
our understanding of what pop music,
it can even sound like, and our understanding of who he is and what he's capable of.
I'm Wesley Morris. I'm a critic of the New York Times, and I write about popular culture and
the relationship between the present and the past, and not infrequently race is involved in that
relationship. And I'm just going to say, I love Stevie Wonder. I love his love of black people.
I love his love of all people. I love his emotional honesty. I love that he's an explorer
curious about life as a person, curious about life as an insect as a plant, and also, I love that
this run of albums contains a story of both the man who made them and a story about life in this
country. For our purposes, this classic period starts with Music of My Mind, which Motown
released in 1972, when Stevie was just 21 years old. Months later, he was back with the second
album in this streak, Talking Book.
The following year, Stevie
releases Inner Visions, the year after
that, it's fulfilling as his first
finale, and finally,
the culmination of the run
1976's songs
in the Key of Life.
Five albums and less than five years.
And it's worth looking back at the
musical scope and big-heartedness
developed in such a short,
fraught period of time
because it hasn't been
matched by any other artist. We're
Talking about Stevie Wonder's music today because it's our history, yes,
but also because it's important to our present too.
There's so much in this music, Stevie made over 50 years ago.
Still, so much that is still moving us, delighting us, surprising and inspiring us,
he's left a legacy that still impacts tons of people.
People we're going to hear from like Michelle Obama, Babyface, Yolanda Adams, Barack Obama,
Jimmy Jam and so many more people.
To put it simply, for the next six episodes,
we're going to be luxuriant.
And as Janone describes it,
Stevie being a free-ass motherfucker.
This is the wonder of Stevie.
Today, episode one, music of my mind.
Okay, so,
It's 1986.
Come back with me.
It's Thursday night, 8 p.m.
I'm 10 years old, and I'm watching the Cosby Show.
I know.
Just shut up.
I'm watching the Cosby Show.
Season 2, episode 18, and Denise Huxdable has just gotten her license
and has begged for a car.
Now, Denise was the coolest Huxable.
But even at 10, I knew cool-ass Denise was going to mess this driving thing up
and mess it up she did.
At some point, she and her brother Theo come blowing into the living room
with some breaking news.
You won't believe what happened to us.
We were in a wreck.
A wreck.
Only, they don't seem like they're in a wreck.
They seem psyched.
It's like, Denise, did you hit somebody or did you hit on somebody?
Because I can't tell.
They're telling this story like the accident is the farthest thing from their minds.
They hit this other car and then...
And then the back door.
Yaddy, yada.
The Huxstable family hangs out in the studio with Stevie,
who's in these big...
sunglasses and a milky sweater with four big colorful rectangles up around his chest,
he's sitting at a keyboard, and he gets them to tell him something for him to record.
But they're a little star-struck, even cool as Denise, who's a mortal line to Stevie is,
I don't know what to say.
Denise, it's your turn.
I don't know what to say.
And that, he turns into music.
What I couldn't have known at the time is that Stevie was basically in what I'll call
phase three Stevie.
Beloved, popular,
a member of black people's families,
Uncle Stevie, basically.
You know how it is with stars and kids.
You don't know the history.
All you know is what you see.
And all I saw in 1986
was a kind of cultural totem.
A stuffed animal
nobody could leave the house without.
I mean, just imagine
that you're 10 years old
and the first Beyonce song
you ever heard was cuffing.
because somebody on TikTok issued a dance challenge.
Now imagine your aunt telling you then after the song is over,
oh, honey, you don't know nothing about that,
and shows you the Coachella Homecoming performance.
She shows you the formation video,
and then went for single ladies, and you weren't there, you don't know.
So now your brand's on fire.
And then she's like, honey, there's more.
And then she plays your Destiny's Child,
and you maybe feel like your whole life has been a lie.
This show, it's about that before.
about how phase one Stevie evolved into phase two.
It's about what came before Denise Huxable crashed that car into Stevie Wonder.
These next six episodes are about when Stevie Wonder crashed into us.
How we're going to do it.
Each episode in this series is going to delve into one of the albums
in Stevie's extraordinary five-album run.
We're going to start now with music of my mind,
but before we get to that, how this classic period began,
you kind of have to understand how Stevie began
as a music prodigy raised in the Motown machine.
He's born in 1950,
Steve Lynn Hardaway Judkins in Saginaw, Michigan.
In fact, he arrived ahead of schedule,
and his being born early resulted in a condition
called retinopathy of prematurity,
which left him without sight.
His mother, Lou LaMay Hardaway,
insisted Stevie not be treated any differently
than his four sighted siblings,
and so he had a vibrant childhood.
He was blind, but he and his family would never call his blindness a handicap.
Lula May said as much in a TV interview from 1989 alongside TV with the UK's Terry Wogan,
because when the Brits love you, they want to know everything.
He was saying he used to try and ride bicycles as a kid, and did he do all those things,
climb trees, all that stuff?
Oh, yes, clamped trees.
I mean, how did you get down again?
I just jumped down and got down.
Did you know from the start that he had great musical talent?
Yes, I did.
I did.
Stevie was writing his own songs,
and one day he was out on the family porch
playing his bongos,
and he got on one person's last nerve.
Not because he was loud,
but because he was blasphemous, apparently.
He was making the devil's music,
according to a neighborhood deacon familiar
with the situation.
This little boy needed to let the Lord in his life,
so off the church he went and played the devil's music there.
And there, at church, as a young man named Ronnie White saw Stevie and was floored.
And Ronnie happened to sing with this act called Symbolism Alert, The Miracles.
As in Smokey Robinson and The Miracles.
Ronnie was so impressed that he arranged for Lula May to bring Stevie into this new record company called Motown
and to meet the young cat who founded it, Barry Gordy.
Stevie and Lula May arrive at the Motown offices on the show.
2648 West Graham Boulevard.
And 2648 was a house, just like a modest turn-of-the-century home that in the late 1950s and
1960s would have been impressive for a black family to own.
But for the label that's about to redefine American popular music, you kind of can't
believe this is it.
Even after they hang a huge sign outside that says Hitsville USA.
That's also Motown, major American recording juggernaut.
and kind of your uncle's house.
When Stevie and Lula Mae get there,
they're put in this rehearsal room in the basement
that's also known as the snake pit.
And Stevie just starts playing some of the instruments.
And there's some other people in the room,
and as the story goes at one point, one of them,
this Motown exec named Mickey Stevenson.
He runs upstairs to Barry Gordy's office and says,
You gotta come here this kid now!
Barry heads down, enters the pit,
and notices the crowd that's formed around Stevie,
including the Supremes, who are the current babies of the label.
And he sees Stevie behind the drums and...
I could see he was blind.
He was just moving his heads and he was playing and going and doing everything.
And it was great, you know.
But I was wondering what's the big deal because I wasn't in the market for a drummer.
That's Barry Gordy, apparently unmoved by the side of a pint-sized blind boy just killing it on the drums.
He remembers watching Stevie go from one instrument to the next,
and after a minute, that nonchalant.
it kind of started to thaw.
Then he left the drums and he started playing the bongos.
And he did that and it was okay. It was nice.
And then he, of course, sung.
I wasn't thrilled with his voice particularly.
But it was okay. He was good.
And then he went to the harmonica.
Now that impressed me.
With that, and pretty much on the spot, I should say,
Motown signed Stevie to a rolling four-year recording contract
and a three-year artist management deal.
They worked out an agreement with the Michigan Department of Labor
so that Stevie would be allowed to work.
Stevie was a minor, obviously, so his mom, Lula May, represented him.
There was this two-part TV special from the late 1980s
called Superstars and their moms.
Carol Burnett hosted it with her daughter, Carrie Hamilton.
I used to love Carrie Hamilton.
And everybody else is in it, too.
Debbie Allen and Felicia Rashad with their mom,
Cher and her mom and Whitney Houston with her mother, Sissy.
And then Stevie and Lula Mae.
You know what? I feel shy as singing about my mother.
Straight out.
It's ridiculous.
What's wrong with her?
Do you feel bad collecting royalties off with Stevie?
It is such a deeply 1980s artifact.
At some point, Stevie and Lula Mae are at the piano together,
and he's doing this lyrical ballot that he dedicates to her.
You know, just how much he loves her.
And just as he's ending it,
he kind of can't help but just turn the funk up.
Then she starts to tell this story
as Stevie getting his first big paycheck,
and Stevie's still at the piano,
playing underneath her while she talks.
He was first began going on to Motown.
I know he don't remember this.
He was there playing drums for the temptation.
So Steve, when he comes.
He came home, coming in.
It was kind of cold.
He had on this little coach, you know.
He comes stepping in there.
He gives me a check for $750.
So here, Mama, he's $750.
And you know what?
That $750 means just as much to me as $700 million.
And I always will.
You don't remember that, do you?
No, actually, Ma, I remember that money,
and I want that check back now.
Oh, you want that check?
Motown seized control of all of Stevie's finances
and put his earnings into a trust
that he would not have access to until he turned 21.
Motown also gave Lula Mae and Stevie
a stipend that she used to keep the family going
and Stevie's portion started at $2.50 a week.
The innovation of Barry Gordy's Motown,
one of them, anyway,
is that it's a black-run music company
with a stable of black artists
in an industry white men control.
Still, he took out an $800 loan from his family to get it up and running, and his first
acts included Smokey's miracles, of course, Mabel John and Mary Wells and the Marvellettes,
then come Martha and the Vandellas and the Supremes and the Four Tops and Marvin Gay.
My dream was that an artist could walk in to one door just a normal kid off the street
and come out another door, a star.
So the machinery, once they got in there.
So there were producers, they were writers.
By the time Stevie comes on to the scene and not,
The company is already making enormous hits, like The Miracles shop around and please Mr. Postman by the Marvelettes.
And everybody at Motown is young.
But Stevie Wonder is a child at work all daggone day.
So while the Supremes are supreming and Mary Wells is a well-in and the temptations are out tempting and the foretops are atoppin,
all becoming international sensations
Stevie's there too
soaking all this in
learning how to rate and produce and perform
and when he's not working and learning at Motown
Stevie's enrolled at the Michigan school for the blind
he's got a tutor that Motown provided
named Ted Hull who was partially cited
and Stevie's also
busy being a regular kid
sometimes he'd just swoop into a recording session
and interrupt because he couldn't see the red light
saying don't go in recording in progress
He'd ride bikes and pretend to be reading books,
call up Barry Gordy's assistant,
and convincingly pretend to be Barry on the phone.
Dionne Warwick, yes, the Dionne Warwick,
told me about this prank that Stevie played on her.
It involved the Shirelles,
the Hall of Fame All-Girl group,
famous for dedicated to the one I love
and will you still love me tomorrow, among other gems.
For some reason, the Shirelles did not like this red dress Deion had.
And so they get Stevie to talk to her about it.
He said, can I say something to you and you won't get upset?
I said, of course.
He said, you know that red dress you wear?
And it kind of befuddled me, first of all, how do you know it was red?
I said, yes.
He said, don't wear that anymore.
It doesn't look good on you.
I said, what?
How do you know it doesn't look good?
He says, I know, I know.
I thought he could see.
I really did.
I thought, well, this kid.
can see. Between pranks, Stevie was also getting tutoring at Motown that Ted Hall didn't provide.
The label had a whole finishing school. Artist development is what they called it. When an act got
signed to Motown and had a hit and seemed destined to tour as part of the Motown review, or maybe even
as part of their own show, going to artist development was mandatory. That's where you'd basically
be made presentable in long sessions of comportment and movement in properness. It was like
going to school. Yes, it's smoky.
Smokey Robinson
It was mandatory.
It wasn't your option.
You had two days a week when you were in Detroit
that you went to artists development,
no matter who you became or who you were at the beginning, okay?
Motown was going to sand off those rough edges.
Allow me to introduce you to Suzanne DePas,
who worked at Motown as Barry Gordy's creative assistant.
She helped launch the Jackson Five.
Also, she's the one that Vanessa Williams played
in the Jackson's an American Dream,
that miniseries it plays every Thanksgiving.
She also really knew the Motown formula to success.
What was unique about artist development in Motown was that there was a great deal of time and effort put into not only singing and dancing, but sort of an approach to how to do an interview, how to present themselves.
Basically, even after a few coats of artist development, you still got to be yourself, but in a sleek, tailored suit with a gleam.
When you winked or smiled or got out of a car or off a tour bus, you'd be all.
I suppose a question one could ask is, why?
Another might be, for whom?
These are fair questions.
Of course, the implication of that question is that Motown was grooming these performers
so white people wouldn't mind looking at them.
Also fair?
But there was a politics at work in this grooming.
Motown arrived during the TV age,
and its acts were basically performing in people's homes.
Most white people wouldn't have seen black people dress like this,
either on the street because they'd fought to be
and accepted being segregated from them,
or on TV because the very few black people there
were service people in service uniforms or rags.
So the application of etiquette was as much a revolutionary act of politics
as a lunch counter sit in as far as I'm concerned.
Maybe even more subtly effective,
since seeing four dapper black men called the temptations
might actually tempt a skeptical white person to think of them as human.
At the same time, Motown's respectability approach
would have certainly thrilled, delighted, and moved black people.
Black people who yearned to see other black people
as glamorous as the white star as Hollywood was inventing.
I talked to the Smokey Robinson about this dilemma.
Back in those days, man, if you weren't being played on white radio,
you were in trouble.
You know what I mean?
Was there ever a conversation among you artists and with Barry and some of the other people at the label in the executive branch about this question of being proper and being respectable and making yourselves palatable to a whiter audience?
Is that ever a conversation?
You say to a whiter or wider?
To a white audience, basically.
It was hard to get played on white radio if you were black back in those days.
You know what I mean?
But we got to the point where the White Radio was calling us,
asking us, could they please have the records, okay?
We bombarded them with so many hits back to back, the back, the back,
they had no choice.
They would call us and say, can we get the new Supreme's record first?
Can we have that new Stevie?
Can you give to it?
That was White Radio calling us.
You know what I mean?
So, yeah, you wanted to groom yourself because that's where the money was, man.
That's where the money was.
That's where it still is.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah. So that's nothing new.
Right about now, ladies and gentlemen, we'd like to continue with our show.
I introduced you a young man that's only 12 years old.
And he is considered as being a genius of our time.
Ladies and gentlemen, let you and I make him feel happy with a nice obation as we meet and greet.
Little Stevie Wonder. How about it?
Anybody who saw Little Stevie Live would have seen him on stage and his blazer and slacks
looking as sophisticated as the label's grown-ups playing in a touring act called the Motown Review.
These shows had a kind of big band arrangement.
Everybody basically wore versions of the same formal get-up.
I want to talk about this one-night, 1962, at the Regal Theater in Chicago, because it's magical.
The emcee brings Stevie on, and he's led out to a chair, oh, a little aggressively from my taste.
And he puts a set of bongos in his hands to play a song called Fingertips.
Ladies and gentlemen, now I'm going to do a song, taking for my album.
the jazz soul of Little Stevie.
The name of the song is called
Fingertips.
He's ready to turn them on
and turn this song out.
He starts by telling them
to clap their hands and stomp their feet.
Stomp your feet.
Jump up and down
and do anything that you want to do.
Yeah.
I should say, first,
that Clarence Paul and Henry Cosby,
two of Motown's great songwriters,
wrote Fingertips for Stevie's debut
album, which was called the jazz soul of Little Stevie, and I just want to also say that his jazz
soul was all of 12. It was an instrumental album that's pretty party jazz, and it's supposed to show
off his percussion and keyboard and harmonica skills. You could be forgiven for hearing it and
assuming you've been placed on a brief hold. But live at the Regal, Stevie meets the audience,
and this chemical reaction starts. The crowd is ready to lose it. Eventually, he stands. Eventually, he stands
up and switches to the harmonica and does some dazzling, pretty sophisticated harmonica playing.
Again, he's 12.
Anybody looking at this moment today with any knowledge of whose Stevie would become would say,
ha ha ha, ha, this seems kind of important.
This is the beginning of Stevie finding an extension of his physical voice with the harmonica,
a pocket-sized organ that the mouth plays and that Stevie uses to express the bluest of blues
and the highest of highs.
The harmonica was a way to manifest the music of his mind
with his literal fingertips.
Anyway, at about the performance's halfway point,
Stevie pivots into what becomes the song's much more famous second part.
Everybody say yeah!
And they do!
He'd actually wanted his stage name to be his birth name,
Stevelin Judkins.
But the folks at Motown were so odd,
by Stevie's talent that the only stage name that made sense was Stevie Wonder.
So that's what everybody called him.
Little Stevie Wonder.
It took years from Motown to figure out what to do with all of Stevie's Wonder.
Initially, Barry tried stuffing him into a Ray Charles mold.
The result was an unimaginative rip-off called tribute to Uncle Ray.
Other than being blind and astonishingly talented,
Stevie's nothing like Ray Charles.
The live version of the song,
Fingertips Part 2,
did top the album chart in 1963,
but nothing Motown tried for Stevie after
made much of an impression.
And it wasn't like he wasn't trying to break through.
But as hard as he appeared to work,
bringing some soul and wit
to songs that didn't really know what to do with either,
he seemed poised to become a novelty act.
By the time he was 15,
everybody knew he could sing and play.
But Motown only let him do.
do that on songs other people
had written, and not even songs by its
pop masters. It wasn't until
he hooked up with the songwriter Sylvia Moy
another Motown powerhouse that
anybody knew what would happen if he got to
sing and play music he played a part in writing.
Songs that originated with him.
At the end of 1965,
the label got its answer when it
released the song Moy wrote with Stevie.
Uptight, everything's
all right. Great song.
And it sounds like the 1960s
and like Motown. And it
Last, like Steve Eat.
His voice had actually begun to change to both deepen and grow more elastic.
And the song went to number three on the Hot 100.
For years, Barry Gordy had had the wonder.
But it wasn't until he was helping write his own stuff that the wonder really went, wow.
He finally seemed to make complete artistic sense at Motown,
a company that in 1965 was still changing the way black people were seen and the way they saw themselves.
Ever since the first Africans were shipped here enslaved in the 17th century,
one question for white Americans, whether they own black people or believed in their freedom,
was what would freedom mean?
What would it look like?
How would it sound?
One answer, I would argue, was Motown.
Barry Gordy started the label hoping in part to nationalize black music.
Black culture had been elemental in the development of American pop music,
either through blackface menstruacy
which white performers invented
or through black forms of expression
like spirituals like ragtime
like jazz and the blues.
The genius of Motown,
at least according to me,
is that it took the music
you would have been hearing
on Sunday morning
or Sunday afternoon
because you know how church is
sometimes it starts and start to nine
and ends at three.
It took black church music,
the belted harmonies,
all those big feelings,
the call and response,
and combined it
with the music you would have been hearing the night before.
Music you would have been going to church
praying to God that you could get out of your system.
Take Martha and the Vandelas in their jam, he wave.
You can hear an actual palm slapping a tambourine on that song.
That's exactly what you'd be hearing if you were in church on Sunday.
And you can hear in the way the Vandellas are calling back to Martha Reeves
something else that happens in church,
which is basically the congregation calling out to the preacher
when the preacher's doing a sermon.
The music that came out of this shotgun wedding
between the sacred and the secular,
between gospel music and Western orchestral sounds,
strings, woodwinds,
that didn't sound like anything else in the radio.
The clean beauty of doo-wop,
plus the boisterous noise of a packed club.
Let's just take Ant That Peculiar by Marvin Gay.
That tambourine again.
Those handclaps, the tightness of the rhythm,
section.
These are
Marvin's angelic delivery
of romantic bewilderment.
He don't know what hit him.
These are gospel ideas that
sound like dance music.
Secular yearning.
Fun!
By 1965, when this song sold more than a million
copies, he'd hit number eight on the pop chart,
the Motown sound was basically
at the center of American culture.
And therefore, also, in America's living rooms.
There's a kind of music, for instance,
the black music, which originates from the church,
a gospel church.
This is Davey talking on Rage Music Program,
an Australian music show.
Just like the English music, for instance, at the Beatles.
There's a lot of writing.
Eleanor Rigby, for instance, or yesterday,
I think maybe a little while back
could have been some of the music
that originated from the church.
in a different way.
So we've all been influenced, in a sense,
by the church music.
And this is really important for two reasons.
The church's influence in Motown can't be understated,
and therefore its influence in Stevie's music can't be understated,
because Americans would have been grooving to,
grooving with the best-dressed, best choreographed people in pop.
Negroes, as opposed to end words,
I'll just say it again.
No white person would ever have seen such friends.
for splendid black people before.
Nor would any black person really.
Not on TV.
Motown was fueled by vision and talent and risk.
Lots of people had become rich, famous, and adored.
But over time, that system began to demoralize some of the artists.
And before he was even 20 years old,
Stevie was one of those people.
So at an age when a lot of young adults are headed to college
or figuring out their lives,
Stevie is churning out hit after hit,
like for once in my life when he's 18 years old.
And my Sharia Moore, also when he's 18.
And Sharia Moore, love me as a summer day.
And science he'll deliver when he's 20.
But even with all this success, he had begun to sense that his growth wasn't necessarily
in alignment with Motowns.
And one of his guides to that realization was a Motown second.
named Sarita Wright.
How did you meet your husband, Stevie Wonder?
Your husband? Stevie Wonder heard a record that I had done with Nick Ashford and Valerie Simpson.
And what that record was called, I can't give back the love of feel for you.
He heard my voice and said, no, I think I need to meet her.
This is her in 1990 on Geraldo Rivera's Sane talk show.
And she's talking about their meeting toward the end of the 1960s.
Stevie's in his late teens and Sarita's doing her secretary work.
She's also singing back up on records by acts like Martha and the Vandellas.
A lot of the women Stevie would work with,
Sarita, Minnie Ripperton, Denise Williams.
They have these sweet, almost angelic sopranos,
a perfect compliment to Stevie singing.
You can hear the way Serita's voice flutters on a song
like her version of Smokey Robinson's What Love is Joined Together from 1972.
Not long after they meet, Stevie encourages Sarita to write her own songs,
including with him.
And so he starts a meeting.
and I went in and with him.
He wrote a song and went in and tried to sing it.
And I don't know.
I've never been starstruck,
but I could not seem to get this song called Win Your Love.
And I tried.
I was so embarrassed.
I'm supposed to be a quick study for songs.
I couldn't get it.
And I felt terrible,
but I think he must have done something.
You know, he did something
so that he could come back and we could meet again.
That's what happened.
This is Sarita's way of saying,
yada, yada, yada.
We fell in love.
I wrote songs with him.
He wrote and produced.
for me, and we wrote some songs together, some gems.
They marry in 1917, divorce about two years later, and eventually meet and marry other people,
start separate families, yet creatively, remain very close.
Something deep and intangible is going on in that yada-a-y-a-a-a-a-a-serita-reida-Rite
is a crucial factor in the transition from little Stevie to Stevie.
She was his personal artist development program.
So that brings us to 1971.
The year Stevie turns 21, a time lots of people graduate from college
and start to figure out the rest of their lives.
1971, also the year his contract,
the one we mentioned at the beginning of the episode,
is set to expire.
And it's going to be a thing.
Barry Gordy wants Stevie to re-up that contract,
so he tries to sweeten the deal a little bit
by planning Stevie a big 21st birthday party.
We were in Detroit on his 21st birthday.
and we had a little party for Stevie,
and we sat at the table,
and we were having so much fun.
So that contract, Stevie's mom,
signed a decade ago when he was 11 and then renewed at 16,
a 2% royalty on his record sales
and Motown handles his finances,
and his earnings go into a trust
that he can access when he's 21?
We're talking about an estimated $3.5 million.
Guess who's got a birthday coming,
and guess who's surprised?
to discover that the money Motown's given him
is nowhere near what he believes he's owed.
Imagine Stevie's shock at hearing about the enormous deductions
Barry's been charging his TV's account
for his tutor Ted Hall who Motown fired
when Stevie graduated from high school.
For Stevie's allowance, whatever that means,
when you subtract all of that,
not only did Stevie not get $3.5 million,
he got about $3.4 million less than that.
Anyway, back to the birthday party
Barry's throw in for Stevie.
Yay.
When I got here, there was a wire from Steve's attorney
disaffirming every contract that he had with Motown.
I couldn't believe it.
My favorite move when a businessman is called with his hand in the cookie jars
when he's like,
I don't really understand what's happening here.
They're just cookies.
Sorry, Barry.
This business baby?
I'm saying with this man, and I thought, surely,
Stevie's leaving the company.
He disaffirmed everything.
He's 21.
Now he's going to go out and get bids from all the other companies,
and he's got to be, he's going to leave the company.
I mean, that's why else would he do this without telling me anything?
For all those years, Barry had complete financial and creative control over his artists.
Now, one of them was pushing back hard, and he's got nothing to lose.
Here's Barry in a place he's rarely ever been before.
Life or death compromise.
He's got to give something up, or he's going to lose Stevie.
You might be hearing me say this and wonder, what were the financial consequences?
What about his mother, Lula Mae, who originally signed this deal?
Did Stevie really ever consider leaving Motown in any serious way?
And most importantly, after being this misled by Barry, why would he stay?
You know, these are all the existential questions that are probably unknowable to anybody who isn't named Stevie Wonder.
And who knows, maybe one day I'll get to ask him.
But what I will say is that a...
Gerald Posner's book on Motown,
a man named Thomas Bean's Bowles
who managed the kids' accounts
is quoted as saying,
the problem was that Barry kept
those accounts going for too long.
He didn't know when to stop treating people like kids.
So put a pin in that.
In the meantime, though,
Stevie's new contract ran to more than 120 pages.
120 pages of Stevie mapping out
his independence from a man who had been
his boss and a father figure
to him for so many years.
And it just turned out that Stevie was 21, and he wanted to show me that he was 21 now, and he wanted a little respect.
And he ended up making me pay him $13 million to sign up another whole new contract with him, which was unprecedented at the time, but probably one of the best deals I ever made.
You can say that now, Barry Gordy, hindsight being what it is,
And besides the 13 million, Stevie wanted his own publishing company that would own the publishing rights instead of Motown.
20% royalties, total artistic control of all his songs?
He wanted to choose who played on these records.
He wanted to choose what songs appeared on the album and what the first single would be.
Basically, he wanted absolute autonomy from Motown's classic way of doing things.
Stevie was at least as big as the music factory that discovered him.
Signed, sealed, delivered, free.
A lot of people talk about the whole thing of me,
reaching 21 and everything happened and everything broke and everything this,
and I begin to rebel.
Here's Stevie talking about that on A&E series' biography.
It didn't start at 21.
It started really,
and it starts any time that I get bored with what I'm doing.
So I've done a lot of writing, a lot of things.
And I just felt that as much as I knew that Motown felt they were doing whatever they thought was the best for my career, I had a feeling as to how and what I wanted to do.
And what does 21-year-old Stevie Wonder do with that newly acquired freedom?
He does this.
Love having you.
you around. It's the song we started this episode with. The first song on music of my mind,
the first album in this streak that this whole show's about. Stevie would never be the same after
this album. He would never sound the same. Album isn't just the sound of an emotional breakthrough
or some sort of philosophical breakthrough. This is the sound of a technological breakthrough.
Stevie had discovered a sound, a technology that produced a sound, that he could hear in his head
but that no Motown factory, no house band, no matter how good it is,
no regular instrument was going to produce.
It's a sound he went looking for,
and when he found it,
it was as revolutionary for him as when he picked up a harmonica for the first time,
or when he got that new contract from Motown,
something that would take his sound into the future.
That is a song called Cybernaut from an album called Zero Time.
Cybernaut sounds like a Stevie Wonder record with a flap,
It was written by a couple of self-described experimental, stoner, hippie music geeks named Bob Margileff and Malcolm Cecil.
When Stevie heard their album Zero Time, it blew his mind.
Bob and Malcolm were part of an act called Tonto's expanding headband.
The Tonto referred not to the Lone Rager's Native American sidekick, thank God, but to a synthesizer.
A souped-up, complicated behemoth of a synthesizer that was able to create really weird,
very specific sounds.
So he hears this otherworldly sound,
and he goes to New York City to Bob and Malcolm's studio.
He's never met them.
They don't know he's coming,
and then, well, I'll just let Bob tell it.
It was Memorial Day weekend in 1971.
The studio was closed.
Malcolm was a chief engineer of media sounds,
so they gave him an apartment over a delicatessen,
which was approximately very next door to the studio, one flight up.
So he could look out the front window and see the studio entrance below.
And it was very quiet because it was a holiday.
It was very little traffic, and it was kind of warm.
It was late in the afternoon.
And I hear, Malcolm, Malcolm, and I stick our heads out the window
and look down at the entrance to media sound.
and there is Ronnie Blanco, fellow bass player,
standing there with a tall black guy
in a charteroose drum suit with our album under his arm.
And that was Stevie.
They invite him in,
and there's a roomful of instruments and speakers,
and before long, Bob and Malcolm and Stevie
start noodling around playing music together.
And over in the corner of the room
is this big-ass synthesizer.
Except, it doesn't even look like the diet piano thing
you're probably used to seeing,
especially when Stevie performs live.
This thing is a console, a keyboards and knobs and jacks and wires,
whose purposes to synthesize sound, not simulate analog instruments.
In this case, the synthesizer in the corner of that room is a six-foot-tall circular machine,
a wall, an edifice that could extend to 25 feet in diameter and weighed one ton and probably get you to Oz.
Obviously, that thing is calling Stevie's name.
Stevie put his hands all over it.
There was plenty of wires sticking out of the front of it.
I put up a sound on the synthesizer.
We had it plugged into the studio, into the speakers.
And he says, Bob, Bob, there's got to be something wrong with it.
And I said, why?
He says, well, I play in all these notes and just skips from one note to the next.
I don't know what's going on.
And we had to explain to him that the synthesizer, in a way, was sort of like a saxophone.
He only played one note at a time.
And so begins an artistic relationship.
with Tonto, with Bob and Malcolm, with Stevie, that would last for the next four years.
As a foursome, they helped Stevie get it sounds he'd never been able to communicate before.
After that first meeting, they made one song, and then another, until a few songs became 17,
and 17 became the makings of a library.
Stevie finally found the tools and collaborators that could take his power, which was awesome,
and make it a superpower.
Steve said, oh, you know, this is, I got a lot of stuff on my,
mind and we said yeah it's a good album title Steve so that's how music of my mind came out
music of my mind is an album full of swinging moods
Mary wants to be a super world is that really in a hair
one thing about Stevie is that he knows his way around a love song and love and loss are all over
this record he and serita were mid-divorce when he recorded these songs and the album culminates
with the realization that you can love, love, love the person who used to be your better half.
And all the things she wants to be, she needs to leave behind.
The second song on this album?
It's a seamless marriage of two songs put together to make one shocker called Superwoman,
Where Were You When I Needed You?
This marriage of two songs is extra poignant when you think about each side being about separation.
Even a, I don't know, a middle schooler can hear that.
the disappointment in that.
I remember I was like ninth grade and totally in love with this girl,
and she was leaving that summer.
This is Babyface.
And look, we talked to a bunch of people just to hear what Stevie's music means to them.
This guy has 12 Grammys.
He's one of pop music's great production minds.
He's a peerless writer of earworms.
But even with all that acclaim, all that success, all those Grammys, all that talent.
Back in 1972, Babyface was.
was just a kid named Kenny Edmonds with a broken heart.
Because the girl he liked didn't like him back,
and Stevie Wonder was the place he drowned that sorrow.
It was like the end of the year came, and she was going away.
And I remember going home and skipping past Superwoman and playing,
where were you when I needed you?
Because the way that he used those scents that almost sound like strings,
and it felt like it was talking directly to me
and directly to my emotions and the state that I was in.
And I just kept playing that song again and again.
every time I hear that song, to this day, it takes me right back to, like, summer of
1973 and that lonely feeling that I had of this girl that was going away for the summer,
and I also knew that she was going away to see this guy that she liked that wasn't me.
As necessary as this album is for setting Stevie up to innovate on the albums that follow,
and for as much as some of us, like me, love this album.
It didn't make much of a splash in 1972, not in the charts, not in the race,
radio? The album's biggest single, Superwoman, Where Were You When I Needed You? It didn't even crack
the R&B top 10. Is that because the music wasn't as immediately accessible as some of Stevie's
earlier hits? Was it because art that's revolutionary always takes a while to catch on? Is it because
music critics at the time were pretty much all white guys and they couldn't fully appreciate
what Stevie was up to thematically? I'll keep my answer brief. Yes. All I can say is, with music
in my mind they sensed something good stylistically was changing with Stevie. They even liked the
album, more or less. What they were sensing had to do with the nature of the sound of this music.
In Rolling Stone, Vintilletti called it indulgent and egotistical, but he also noticed
something important. Wonders is one of the very few down-to-earth uses of the synthesizer,
he wrote. No attempts at space music here. No swollen, overright breaks engulfing two-thirds of the
album, only funky, exuberant music of the sort we've come to expect from Stevie Wonder.
That sound Vintzoletti was picking up on was Tonto.
And the way that Stevie and Malcolm and Bob used Tonto wasn't normal.
It wasn't routine.
It's not how producers tended to use synthesizers in music.
It's like normally for a song to be emotional.
It was violins.
It was strings.
It was cellos.
This is the producer and songwriter Jimmy Jam, who along with Terry Lewis, has made
some of the greatest pop songs of anybody ever.
That includes the masterpieces he made with Janet Jackson.
It was French horns.
It was oboes.
It was all the traditional.
If you think about the Motown system,
all of those things existed
and what made those songs so beautiful
was those string arrangements in that.
Stevie took all of that away,
and now he's doing what a horn would do on a synthesizer.
And that was so revolutionary.
Up to that point,
synthesizers were kind of a lot of blips and almost sound effect type things.
The fact that he was using the synthesizer as like the main instrument for chords and beautiful
textures and actually finding the emotion in the synthesizer, where it wasn't this cold
electronic thing, all of a sudden there was a nuance to it and a warmness to it.
And, you know, they really made you feel emotional about an electronic sound.
The revolution of music of my mind is also the revelation of this album.
It's that Stevie had found warmth in all of that machinery.
He found a deep human frequency in it.
The ground he broke is that electronic music was no longer just for robots and sci-fi,
for geeks and freaks in outer space.
It could make real sense right here on Earth.
He could use it for joy and pain,
and he knew instantly, instinctively, how to adjust the temperature.
on those emotions with this device.
To get Tonto from robotic to romantic.
Like he does on the next song, track three,
I love every little thing about you.
He immediately chases the uncharacteristic bitterness
and superwoman, where were you when I needed you,
with what sounds to me like an atonement.
One that starts with this chiming opening
and then it swells to this bliss out melody.
I love every little thing about you
has one of my favorite Stevie Wonder choruses ever.
It's pretty simple.
just that title repeating over and over.
But it's God a gospel song's bigness and certainty.
He loves, he loves, he loves, he loves.
The way congregants love Jesus, he loves this woman.
And then it ends very softly with Sarita whispering about candy and sugar,
and Stevie growling about a big old piece of cake.
Ecstasy on music of my mind.
There's such sympathy and rich,
Poetry, there's also this
playfulness. Take the second to last song on the album
Keep On Running, which starts with the opening
Rattle of Church, where the preachers revving the house band up,
that throbbing Moog bass line, a tease
of what sounds like a wah-wah guitar, some snake rattling
tambourine and Stevie tells somebody, something's about to jump out
of the bushes and grab you.
And this one-man jam session takes off,
rising and building and then tumbling apart
before thunking up all over again.
The idea of this song always makes me laugh.
It's church music in a miniskirt with a drink in one hand.
That's a classic Motown idea.
But with Stevie rejecting Motown's efficiency and rigor,
This song, like the rest of music of my mind, is about playing with form, about being rigorous in some new way that chiefly involves a determination to define independence as almost literally doing everything yourself, including taking everything you've learned from your colleagues and mentors to invent some new thing that doesn't want to get boxed in or be concise or musically simple.
It wants to sound exploratory because the man making it is only.
on an adventure to discover himself.
I love every little thing about this album.
I loved it before I knew anything about how it got made
and how important it was to Stevie's becoming his own artist.
I love the assurance in craftsmanship of this album.
I love the daring of Stevie Wonder to abandon the comfort of Motown's innovations
and renovate himself.
I love that Stevie didn't care about these questions of artistic purity
when it comes to so-called genre music.
Black music, jazz, R&B, soul, gospel, blues, reggae,
as if these forms didn't come from the same source.
As if electronic music didn't come from the same source.
Here's the thing about the synthesizer.
It was never a dead end for him.
For Stevie, it was the key to unlock his musical mind
and an escape hatch out of everybody else's.
It was a way to do what Motown did,
combine the church, the party, and the symphony.
only he didn't need a whole orchestra.
He was a one-man funk brother.
What becomes obviously irreversibly true about Stevie and his ingenuity,
starting with music of my mind,
and what will become even clearer and more electrifying
just months later with his next album,
is that even though he had this enormous piece of technology
he's going to use to bring all these new ideas and feelings together,
his vision transcends the technology itself.
See, as important as Tonto was for making Stevie's dreams come true,
it was just an instrument.
The reason these albums mattered at the time,
the reason they still move us as much as they do,
it's pretty simple.
The real synthesizer, it was Stevie.
This album declares his independence.
The next album in the streak, Talking Book,
makes him bigger than he'd ever been.
He basically provides the goods
and has the makings of what could be a global superstar.
and this is one of the ways that Stevie Wonder
will start not only living up to the promise of creative genius
but also in terms of a creative genius that can be commercially viable
this will help in that direction
because he's going to face an entirely different audience
that otherwise just knew of as that guy that sing that one song
or the other song and whatnot.
That's next time on The Wonder of Stevie.
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