IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson - Respect Your Kids’ Choices with Damon and Marlon Wayans

Episode Date: April 30, 2025

Legendary entertainers Damon and Marlon Wayans join the pod as IMO’s first sibling guests! They share hilarious stories from their childhood, open up about working together as an entertainment family, and share wisdom about raising children through challenges.Have a question you want answered? Write to us at ⁠imopod.com⁠.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

I wear this baseball hat and suit because of my dad. I used to laugh at him. We used to laugh at him because he would wear a suit with a baseball hat, like a mom-woney hat, right? He had all the hats from our shows, and he would, like, wear them because he was proud of us. And so that's why I wear this in honor of my dad. And I wear my mother's underwear because, no.

You had me there. I just fell right into that. God. This episode is brought to you by Pinesol and Chase Home Lending. Hello. Hey, smoothie smooth. How you doing? I just want to touch this.

You like that? It's like, ooh, is that, is that pleather? No, it's leather. Did Kelly pick that out? Kelly did pick this out. It goes with my nails. She always finds a way to, you know, make it work. I know.

I know. Yeah, so what's happening? What's happening? Not much. Not much. We're back out here in LA. I know. I'm staying at an Airbnb, as you know, I like to do that now. Yeah, yeah. You're a regular. I am. I am. I'm really enjoying this one. This is another guest favorite. What's a guest favorite? A guest favorite is a house or property that the people who visit market as a guest favorite. They favorite it after they, when they do their survey. It's rated. It's rated. It's rated. It's rated. It's rated. It's rated a guest favorite.

I get it. So it's their rating. So it's high on the list. It's high on the list. And I only stay in guest favorites no matter where I go. But the best part about it, the two things that I like about this one. Laundry. I can do my laundry. I can do my laundry. I can do my laundry. I can do my socks. I am making your socks. What did you have for breakfast? I am making breakfast. What did you have for breakfast today? Where's Paris? Paris saw my breakfast. I had fruit. That's not making anything. Eggs. Oh, okay. Okay. Thank you. You made bacon Sunday. I did. Well, I made bacon Sunday. I did. Why would I make this up? What do you mean? What do you mean? I made bacon on Sunday for the whole week. That's what I do.

You carry old bacon around? I don't care. It's in the refrigerator. I'm at an Airbnb. It's in the refrigerator. But it's pre-cooked? I cooked it. It's bacon like you get from the store. I'm just confused. You know why she can't, you can't believe it is because you don't have to cook any bacon anymore. No, I don't.

And I'm not ashamed to say. Bacon? How do you cook? How do you have baked? What do you carry baked? Well, you said you cook bacon on Sunday, but anyway. I cooked it on Sunday. All right.

So I had bacon, everything bagel toasted. Two soft boiled eggs. Okay. And fruit. All right. And I would have had a banana, but we were running a little bit late this morning. And you just couldn't squeeze the banana in. So I just brought it with me.

Well, that's good. I'm glad. I'm glad you had a balanced breakfast and you're ready to go. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to go. Thank you, Airbnb, for giving my brother a guest favorite with a kitchen. Well, I'm so excited today because we have some favorites of our.

is that we are getting to meet for the first time. I can't believe that in all these years, we haven't met any of the Wands. There's so many of them. I would have thought at some point, you just run into somebody on the street, running into somebody in the motorcade. Exactly.

It's like, was that a Wands that got hit? By the motorcycle. I think that was one of the Wands. Oh, my. There's so many of them. But, you know, given all the White House parties you've had, I'm surprised that they, didn't just show up at one or two of them.

Well, that would be hard to do. Yeah, because they're West Coast guys. We've got to make up for that. Yeah, well, let me do my intros here. So we have Damon and Marlon Wayans joining us, folks. I'm so excited to talk to him. And I'm almost giggling already. I haven't even heard him say anything yet.

But Damon Wayans Sr., because there is a Damon Wayans Jr., yes, we all know that. Is a legendary comedian, actor, writer, and producer with decades in the entertainment industry. Decades, that makes him sound as old as I am. I know, I know. He rose to fame on In Living Color, which was one of our favorite show. We used to watch that and crack up.

And he later starred in and co-created my wife and kids. Now, our kids love that show. You know, Malian said they are back up on that. Like, it just happened. You know, like they discovered the sun. I know, I know. And you can watch him now on Papa's House airing on CBS. And along with

Damon is his younger brother Marlon Wayne. We got two of them. Actor, comedian, writer, producer, and director. He's currently on the road for his wild child tour. Yeah. Which will culminate in his fifth stand-up special. After 20 years,

Marlon is reuniting with his brothers, Keenan and Sean Wayans to write and produce a scary movie reboot, which is set for release June 12th, 2026. So I have so much more to say, but why don't we bring them out so we can say it to them? Come on out, guys.

So good to see you. And everybody is coming to coordinated. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome to I AMO. I AMO. Where I get to work with my brother, which is also why this is kind of, you really. There we go.

Any advice as I embark on. an endeavor with a sibling? I just enjoy the ride. Yeah. Says the older sibling. You know what I'm saying? Says the bully. Oh.

Yeah. Well, you know, somebody got to put you a check. And that's my job. But, you know, it's a privilege to work with family, you know, and especially when you get along. You know, I mean, you guys, this chemistry is, you know, palpable. You know, you could just tell that y'all love each other. And then what's the problem?

And you spend. so much time at work that sometimes, you know, life can pass you by. So if you're working with family, you're actually living and doing your work at the same time. So it's actually, you're doing a two-for-one, and it's really a blessing to do what you love with who you love. True that. Oh, wow. And that comes across. I mean, it, it really does. And all these, true that, there's some wisdom right there. Wisdom right there. You had a special sauce, but it's, but you, but you, but you were surprised from it Coming from the young fellow, right?

Hey, hey, hey, hey. Oh, he's the old brother? Yeah, yeah. No, although he doesn't act like it, did you? No, because here's the thing. It's different when you're a little brother. A little sister really is they're always going to be the big sister. Yes.

Because women have this thing where they just, you got to respect when they put you in their place. There you go. Preach, brother. There you go. You know who the bully in the family is? I am not. I'm not. They both look at me.

I am. I was like, mm-hmm, he can't be pinching me on the leaf of this table. No, but I think also allow yourself the space to be individuals and just, we're all different. I always tell my brothers, they, you got to do this this way. No, and you got to do it. And I'm just like, no, I don't want to do it that way. I want to do it my way. The dumb way.

But that's the smaller way. He said, I just keep feeling until I figure it out. Yeah. That's so stupid. Why don't you listen? and have success. Because that would be your success. I got to find my success.

There you go. There you go. See, that's spoken like a little sibling. Yeah, you know, it's like you can't, you can't show us the way. We've got to run into the wall on our own. Well, you talk about, let's talk about your sisters. Yes. Right.

Because everybody knows the brothers. But tell me about, well, we know Kim. I think that's the only sister I have seen out in the world. But you got a bunch of them because it's a lot of y'all. Yeah, we have five sisters. They're all so talented. So, like, they're hilarious. Really?

Yeah, you hang around. And all they do is crack Joe's O'Viron, Devon, and, you know, and they're funny. But, you know, to do what we do. They're actually funnier than us in some ways because they could just say, they can't get canceled. Yes, that's true. So they just unfiltered. So they're telling the truth. They're not in the business, though, right?

No. funny people in the world. I don't think it can handle the rejection that comes with, you know, like going on stage. The thing about doing stand-up is you're not funny until you're funny. And it takes, you got to put in 10,000 hours to figure out what's not funny. Yeah, yeah. And you got to want fame, you know, like, that's a 24-hour job. I don't get the clock out.

I think being a mother is hard enough, and especially a lot of times being a single mother. Yeah. So, you know, the fact that they were young and they were. raise their kids. And, you know, we as uncles assisted. But, you know, I'm proud of my sisters for, you know, being great mothers and really loving their children and they're in the industry. You guys had a lot of strong women.

You had your mother. You had your sisters. How do you think that's made you better people, better men? I had an aunt. She just passed in February. And she wasn't my favorite. You know, you're supposed to have favorites. But she told all my brothers and sisters.

Damon's my favorite. Yeah. And, like, was not ashamed to say it. And, you know, being born with a club foot, it's like God gave me somebody. That was on your side. And it's powerful to have somebody that loves you unconditionally. And I would get in trouble and school and, you know, with the law. And my aunt never said nothing to me.

And I recently asked, I said, I'm Mary, why you never, like, check me? Because I've seen you check your own kids. She said, well, it's your mom. mom's job to beat you. My job is to love you. Yeah. And I think it's so powerful to have that person in your life. And that's who she's

helps. Now that I know that you was her favorite, I want to take back that song machine I bought him. Well, don't worry, Marlon. He was my mother's favorite. It's rough being the favorite. Yeah. It's rough. It's rough. But my mom lied to all of us. You're like, you're my favorite.

You're my favorite. Keenan, you're my favorite. We were all her favorites and we all felt at some point we were all her baby. But I know I was her favorite. I was born on my mama's birthday. So we had a special bond. We would fight. Me and my mom, we'd argue with each other. But that's sometimes, you know, we fight,

but we always make up. He never had a birthday. Like it was always about my mother. Oh, yeah. When she finally died, then he had a birthday and it was a saddest birthday. I mean, you know. Dad. A lonely cupcake.

You got what you wanted. I wanted a birthday. Here you go. Here you go. Well, tell us more about your upbringing because having so many siblings be so talented is, I mean, it's just the two of us. So this is all who we can play with, the two of us. The greatest things that we have is each other. And, like, I don't have a lot of friends.

Malin has a lot of friends. Kim has a lot of friends. What's the matter with you, Damon? I don't know. See what I mean? He called me. He's crazy. Okay.

I don't really trust people. He's trying to be open. And ridiculed. And, you know, so friends have kind of turned on me. So I have his friends. Yeah. They're my friends. And, you know, I'm friends with them because they're vetted.

You know what I mean? And as long as he love him, I love him. When he stopped loving, I don't have to feel nothing. Brow. It's like, we done with her. Yeah. Right, let me go on and give my coffee. But I think we all get along.

My mother made sure that we all played together, you know, made sure that when we argue, she'll go kiss in the mouth. When we argue, my mother go on, kiss him in the mouth. And Sean's breath was weird. So I decided to just get along with him no matter what. You know, Kelly did that with our kids, my wife. Made your youngest two, kiss in the mouth. You're going to have to.

You never told me that story. But that's because they don't ever fight. because they don't want to kiss each other on the mouth. I saw the funniest thing online. There's two kids that was fighting, and their mother made the two boys hug, and they sang, they had to sing the Wayans' brother's theme song.

It's like, we're brothers, we're happy, and we're seeking, and we're colored. I thought that was so cute. That's so sweet. They're so sweet. Do you guys have fist fights? Not with each other. No. My brother would cave my chest in, but that wasn't a fight.

There's one punch. That one to the... I used to do that in his back, you know, because I was little, just one of these hard, you can't hit back. You could hear the echo in his back. You know? Yeah. Yeah, we couldn't fistfight because then you had to fight my father. Oh, yeah.

He didn't. My father just didn't. He was like a guy who would, you know, send a message to all of you. And you don't want to be the example. Yeah. You know, you don't. So, yeah, we didn't. We didn't.

We didn't fight each other. But we jump people. My mother said, you know, four-fist beat two any day. If you get in a fight, that means you're getting in the fight. Nobody fight alone. So we got in a fight, you know.

Maybe we'll be kicking people. That reminds me of a time. I don't know if you knew this because we, you know, close in age, went to the grammar school around the corner. And, you know, this is how close we were. You know, Craig was always a popular kid because we was a sports kid, did all the stuff. But at Bryn Maw, I was coming out of school at the end of the day. And for some reason, people came up and said, your brother's in a fight.

Your brothers in a fight. They're geeking his ass. They're beating his ass. And I was always that tough girl. But the thought, like the image of you being beat up, I broke down, you know, because I was just envisioning you getting hit by some. guys. And I don't know if I told you that, but I was like hysterical. And then you found out on the playground that I was hysterical and you came over and you said, it was just a joke. Nothing really happened. But I always thought I would be able to just, you know, thug up. But just the

thought of him being hurt. I was surprised at myself, even though I was a little girl was like, get it together. Get it together. Get it together. But I couldn't. I remember that. I remember that. And it was one of those things where your friends are like joking around. So everybody was the victim at some point where all of us kind of jumped them, but we weren't, they're not real punches. And she was so upset. And I do remember that. And then I became upset because you were upset. This episode of IMO is sponsored by Chase Home Lending, committed to supporting you all the way home with smart digital home buying tools and resources. Chase Home Lending is dedicated to helping individuals and families achieve their dream of home ownership. They offer expert guidance throughout

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Yeah. My sisters was vicious. Devon. Yeah. Devon one time this kid, Baldy Joe was beating me up, and he was like a 16-year-old kid, and my sister had corn roll.

She was about 250 pounds. She said, come here. And she grabbed him by his arms like this. And she said, Marlon, punch him in the face. I was like, Devonty going to beat me. She said, if you don't punch him, I'm going to punch you.

I was like, bow. And, you know, my sister's always, always had my back in that way. I didn't get my brother because I saw Akina get beat up. Like, bad. Like, so Keenan used to walk around in Kung Fu slippers. Like, he watched, he went through this Bruce Lee, Jim Killing.

Yeah. And he loved, he had Noon Chucks. He would have, like, and he was really good. He would kick the ceiling. And then one day he got into a fight with this dude, Bobby Boyd, in the building, in the lobby of the building. And Keenan, you know, everybody's like, oh, snap. Yeah, yeah.

And then Keenan went to. take off his shirt. Oh, man. And the dude smashed him with his shadow, and just pummeled him. And, like, Keena was on the floor. Oh, no. And there was, like, blood sleep, see him in his shirt.

And I'm like, get up, King, you should do it. And get up, you can do it. You can do it. Unangle your arms from your shirt. Oh, no. This guy you looked up. Don't get you this. If you do, make you do, make sure you take it.

Take a shirt. Really? It's like, oh, man, that Bruce Lee didn't more about that. Don't lock yourself up in your shirt. You know? Oh, man. Bruce Lee didn't wear pullovers.

When I think of you guys, you know, when I hear about your background, all of y'all living in two rooms, you know, it reminds me of how we grew up. I mean, it was just the two. of us, that's the only reason, you know,

that we felt like we had more space. But we grew up sharing a room until he went to high school. And then our parents turned the back porch into a bedroom so he could have his own room because they thought, well, you know, this grown Negro needs to have his own room. But, you know, our childhood was like yours. No money. A lot of love, good values.

Humor. Yes. A lot of laughter. Right? Government cheese? Yeah. Government cheese. You know, never government cheese because my father had a good city job, right? And I think that was the only reason.

And there were two of us. Probably if there had been ten of us, government cheese would have been involved, you know. But there isn't a day that goes by that I don't think about the values. Our parents instilled. And, you know, we just lost our mother last year. You know, and it's like, you know, you never stop grieving that. I mean, I still can't even talk about her or my dad without, you know, losing it,

which is a tough thing to do when you're speaking in front of a thousand people. And it's like, ugh, ugh. I know. But there are just a lot of phrases and words that go through my mind every day that they instilled. And I'm just wondering, you must have some of those. I live my parents. Yeah. I live them.

Like, with my everyday effort, I try to honor my parents. Yep. Well, it comes to loving my siblings. They're all so different and it's a lot. But I make sure because I know my mother would want that. I know my father would want that. And so I try to honor them with my actions. I try to honor them as a good father, as a good uncle with my nephews and my nieces.

And it's always an open door and to honor them with love and to be an example. You know, that's why I don't go to parties and things like I used to, you know, because I know I have grown kids. My grown kids are looking at me to be an example. So, and then I have to, I'm the linchpin between our generation and their generation. So as the baby, I'm the oldest of these next generation. So I have to instill all that my parents governed us and instilled that into them. And I think one of the greatest thing my father ever did was besides the fear of him, he gave us the fear of God.

And I think that helped us a lot. Yeah. Yeah. covered it. Yeah. I wear this baseball hat and suit because of my dad. I used to laugh at him. We used to laugh at him because he would wear a suit with a baseball hat, like a mom-winter hat, right? He had all the hats from our shows, and he would, like, wear them because he was proud of us. And so that's why I wear this in honor of my dad. And I wear my mother's underwear because, no, you had me. I just go right into the Like, darn, you got me. So when you guys first started out, did you have real jobs? Or did you, because your older brothers were already in the business, you went straight there? I'm sure you had to have a nine.

I've been working since I was seven years old. So that makes me wonder where, you know, a lot of black families would be like, entertainment, you know? You got to go get a job. What was it about your people? parents that they were so encouraging. It wasn't my parents. Okay, okay, okay, let's clarify. They were black parents, like, what do you mean?

Entertainment? You ain't never been entertaining and I know you my whole life. Keenan was like, I'm going to pursue my dreams. I'm not to pursue your dream. Yeah. I'm going to pursue my dream. And that took a lot of courage. And I remember when he did it.

And I remember the impact it had on me as a kid. And it's funny, as a man, And Keenan still wants me to now do his dream. I'm like, no, I want to do my dream. Like, you did your dream. But that was very powerful and impactful for our family. Was Keenan kind of as the eldest, as really kind of father-like because of the age difference? It was that and he just had it together.

Keenan had vision, right? I had an older brother, Duane, who was paranoid, schizophrenic. So you couldn't take any. direction from him. I'm going to try to teach me to drive. Turn the wheel. Turn the wheel. We're on the freeway.

I'm eight. Wait. Turn to go. I'm eight. First of all, you were eight. Yeah. Eight years old. No seat belts.

We had to stand up in the car. If you turned and just lying on like that. It's crazy to me. Pete, turn the wheel. Turn the wheel. And I just thought what happened. So that brother was out. Yeah.

So we know not to follow. Don't follow Dwayne. Yeah. Keenan was always like, you know, he was an A student. You know, he was, it's interesting how life will take you on this journey. Bruce Lee said stay liquid so you always end up where you're supposed to be. Yeah. And so with Keenan, he told me he went to Skigi.

And he went there to learn that the improvisation club was two miles away from where we live. Oh, wow. Yeah. Because he used to, like, stand, they had a totem pole, and he would stand out there and tell jokes, like, every day. And someone came up to him, said, man, you're funny. You should do stand-up comedy.

Like, right down the block from where we grew up. That's what he says he learned from college. Yeah. It's like, what was two blocks of what? But not to take your shirt off if it's a pull-off. It's like, well, the different kind of liquid. Oh. Yeah, and for me, my journey, I started out wanting to be a singer.

Can you sing? No, when I was young. No, when I was young. That seems like an obvious. Can you sing like Michael Jackson? I saw into a gerbil and a driver's disposal. I hate the way you sing. Now I can't because when I went through puberty, I told my mother, I said,

my, could I take some lessons? She said, boy, I can't even feed you. Mm-hmm. And you don't get no lessons. You don't get no lessons. Find something else to do. So she told. Find something else.

Next. And so I started DJing. And that was my dream. I wanted to be a DJ. Craig was a DJ. I still, I got turntables and... Did you mix it? Yeah.

And with stems and all the stuff you can do now? His DJ name was Craigie Craigie Craig. Craigie Craig Craig Craig. Craig Craig Craig. Craig's creative. My man. My man. My man.

Yeah. And so I went to... We used to throw parties up in. And when I moved out of my house, up my parents' house, at 16, I lived with my cousin up in Marble Hill, the projects. And we used to throw parties and all the girls out there. It was like, it was fun. And then when Keenan moved to California, he gave me his apartment in Washington Heights. And I was like, okay, cool.

So I told my cousin, I'm moving. And he's like, all right, well, you got to do what you got to do. And I had all this equipment. And I had like speakers the size of washing machines. Because that's how big speakers were back in the day. I made them myself. Like I went to downtown, bought tweeters and the subwippers and all that. And my cousin, I came back to get my stuff and it was all gone.

Oh, no. And I was like, yo, really, you need to give my stuff back. He was actually 250 pounds at 14 years old. So I knew he could beat me, you know. Yeah. But I, you know, because I was like 125 pounds. And so I just had to take that on the chin and find something else to do. I told his mother, said, Mom, he took my stuff.

She said, you ain't expect to live here for free. I was like, you were in on it. And he took all my stuff and he put it up to a barbershop. I taught him how to cut hair. Took it to this barbershop. And I was just like, what am I going to do? And then I found stand-up. So it's interesting how, where the journey will take.

Thank you. I wouldn't have done standing if I was going to be, if I was really committed to being the DJ. Yeah. Where's your cousin now? He died. Oh, okay. But we won't talk about him then. Just because he stole his equipment, he didn't cry at the funeral. They made sure they put him in a real little casket. I'll show him. Well, that's speaking of family.

We had to tuck him in the casket. There's a circle. It's like, here you go. Pay back. Pay back. Well, you know, with such a big family, because it's not just your brothers and sisters, but extended family. I mean, I talk to a lot of black folks, you know,

make it big, and it's just the pressure to take care of everybody can be overwhelming. And have you guys been in that position because of your fame, because of your, where folks are like, yo, yeah. I just refuse to. Yeah. Yeah. I think of it.

I think the more I get, the more God provides. Yeah. He's never let me down. So it doesn't matter what people want, no matter what I have to do, I just give. And God is taking care of me every day. I'm not, all my kids is healthy. My kids are eating. They're thriving.

I can't ask them. I'm healthy. If I can do anything, if I need to fly home to go do something and not just money, I try to be present. I try to show up. And that's my assignment from God and my parents to, love my siblings and my family, like my mother and my father would, you know, want me to.

And that's just what I do. That's beautiful. Well, we've got a listener who's a mom who is trying, she's got younger kids and trying to raise her kids to not be so competitive with each other and be more collegial with each other and get along. Make them kiss in the mouth. There you go.

That's the one. I think competition is good, you know, if it's a healthy competition. Like, we compete, like, comedically, right? So the joke is thrown on the table, and then we all, you know, give our different takes on it. But whoever threw it on the table, that's their joke. And I think in the spirit of the competition, it's, I just want to, like, when I do a scene with Damon, The only thing I'm thinking is I don't want to be funnier than Damon. Yeah.

I want to make my brother laugh. Yeah. I want to break him and break his son because then I know what I'm doing is funny. Yeah. If he stutters when he's holding back a laugh, I know I'm doing something right. And that's going to inspire him to go, okay, next take, I got something for you, you know? Wallin is a scene still. Don't be like, he's in it for himself.

But he does why make us laugh. Does Marlon do the best impressions of everybody in the family? No, Sean. Sean. Sean's match. Yeah. Sean is the Jay Farrow of the Wayans family. That man's impression, he does my father so good you would think my father.

He does my father. He does my father. Sean Bryant. Yeah. Sean Brayn. He is. Well, let's hear the question, and it's from Gina in Orange County. We're so thrilled that Pinesaw is a partner of IMO.

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prescription today at coligard.com slash podcast. The Coligard test is intended to screen adults 45 and older at average risk for colorectal cancer. Do not use a coliagard test if you have had adenomas, have inflammatory bowel disease, and certain hereditary syndromes, or a personal or family history of colorectal cancer. The Coligard test is not a replacement for colonoscopy in high-risk patients. Colagard test performance in adults ages 45 to 49 is estimated based on a large clinical study of patients 50 and older. False positives and false negatives can occur. Colagard is available by prescription only. Hi, Michelle and Craig. My name is Gina. And my question is, what was it that your parents said or did that helped you grow to love and support one another throughout the years as

siblings. As a full-time working mom of four kids, ages 9, 7, 5, and 5, one of the most difficult challenges of parenting has been trying to raise my kids to support each other. There seems to be a lot of competition between them, especially between my twin boys. As one of five siblings myself, growing up in a challenging immigrant environment, we just knew not to fight over any frivolous things. There was and still is a lot of love between myself and my siblings. Yet, seeing my kids who are so fortunate and privileged bicker and fight over the simplest things has been baffling. Any words of wisdom for this, Mama? Thank you for creating this platform, Gina from Orange County. I think my parents taught us to respect their elders.

So my respect has the baby, all my siblings, my sisters, I don't care how much money they got. I still got to listen to them. And, you know, I respect them. Damon, Keenan, my big brother Dwayne, you know, the older sibling sets the example for the young sibling. My older brother, Dwayne, was a great big brother to Tinen and Damon. He was very protective. When he wasn't hitting you in the head with a wiffle of all back. Damon's like, don't quite remember it that way.

Damon's home brudges. I love Dwayne. But Dwayne taught, you know, he was very protective of Keenan. And he was kind of like the offensive line to a great quarterback. You know, sometimes it's just that extra block. And he just gave him that space. And Keenan respected Dwayne. And Damon respected Keenan.

I respect all of my siblings. So I think somebody has to set the example. and then you have to teach them respect and honor and love and that we're all doing this together. Yeah. It's funny. It's like even now, this is how my family is. Like, I'm 65 years old and Keenna go, go get me a soda. And I got to go get it.

And you do. Yeah, I got to go get it. And it's just like. That doesn't work that way. Yeah. She's like, go get me a soda. Yeah. If Keen, if Malin walks in the room.

Mm-hmm. And, no, if I walk in a room and there's no seats, Marlon gets up. Yeah. Sean and Kenan will sit. Yeah. And Marlon get up. You sit here. And my son will have to do the same thing.

That's why I love the fact that they have children. Yeah. Because I just used that. I go to my theater sometime and Little Damon is there and Mikey's there. And as soon as I walk in the room, the youngest one gets up and lets me sit down. Without question. I love that. Did your parents instill that?

Or did you all do that sort of... Just a code. Yeah, it's just a code. Informally. Quiet code. We didn't teach them that they just watch how we do with each other. Yeah. And it's just a quiet code.

Some things you don't have to teach. It's just what you see. But it starts at the top. I mean, the way you talk about your father, I mean, there was, you know, there was sometimes a level of fear because you didn't know what he was going to do, but what was always there was a level of respect. Yeah.

You know, and so whether you felt like, that was happening just as your code, it started because that's how you thought of your father. Yeah. And I'm sure that had a little bit to do with how your parents interacted. But I also know that as siblings, sometimes we read the parental relationship differently or the situation. I'm wondering if you guys have different takes on your- Yeah, I was scared of death of my father. Yeah. Scared. Like, he would pants my father.

Like my father would be talking, he just snatch his pants off. Oh, day. And for me, that was like a suicide. That's why you're so crazy. Yes. You were pants and my father. Hey, Jack, come on. Hey.

I was my, those were my friends. My mother and my father were my friends. They were their parents. I came along. My dad, they had money. My brothers had got them houses. They were tired. And they were old.

My daddy had breasts. Who are you going to? He pulled out with that. That was all soggy. Man, you don't sit your head down. Let's talk about this. All right. I'll come home at 1.30 and 72.

too. But, you know, beyond the fear of my father, I respected my father. And it was the man that he was, that he showed up every day. That man made sure that he never left us, never left us. And there was a time when him, my mother was breaking up. And all the kids was out of the house except me and Sean. And my dad moved to Harlem. And my mother, at that time, she had her little schizophrenia going on. So she was cursing him out, call him all kinds of names. My father left. And then he, came back like a month later because he was like, I'm not done yet. My two boys need me. I didn't come this far to ban it. And me and Sean started acting bad. And he was like, no, I'm not, I'm going to finish this assignment from God. And he showed up. And that example for me, I didn't feel my father.

I just respect my father and I love that man. I feared. Like, I used to go and we used to like rob houses for stereo for music equipment, DJ stuff. So that's, it was just payback. This is what I'm saying. Karma, man. Okay, okay. Now it all comes.

See, we all caught that. It's like, what? No, but the stuff my cousin took was stuff that I bought. Oh, unlike the stuff you stole. But they bought. But listen, I went over with my friend, but he's like, that's not the point. That's not the point. We digress.

We digress. Yeah. I couldn't bring it home. Yeah. So my dad was like the security guy at Best Buy. You need a receipt. Where did you get it from? Yeah.

And how did you, where did you make it? the money. You couldn't, you couldn't just bring stolen anything into the house. I had a friend, Seymour, his mother would be shouting out request. Seymour play by Molly. I'm like, what? I'm not stolen stuff. Boy, get it out of my house. If you don't put on my mom, mommy. But it was just a different kind of upbringing, you know, and that fear kept me out of a lot of trouble. Stuff that I would think about doing, I wouldn't do because I thought about my dad. If I got arrested, you know what? Keep me here, officer.

Yep. Yeah. You know, I don't want my father picking me up. I wouldn't even tell him my name. I'm serious. I was arrested what today just let me go because I wouldn't tell him my name. Ingenious. Fear.

Yes. But when I think about, you know, what our parents did. or didn't do. And maybe it's a little bit different because we're brother-sister, because that same gender dynamic may make it a little bit hard. But I know we got along for some of the same reasons. It was the, you know, it was, we didn't want to, our parents worked hard enough without us fighting and causing havoc.

We knew our parents were working as hard as they could. We knew that they were giving us as much as they could. I guess we grew up grateful. And perhaps sometimes in this generation where kids have, I think, too much, you know, parents are giving kids a lot of stuff and they're not giving them some guidance. That what we had was a lot of gratitude for the little bit that we did have. So it was sort of like, well, what was there left for us to be fighting about? I don't know about you, but my parents never.

asked me once whether I was happy. Nope. Never. That was never even a question. Mama said, get out here with that stupid look on your face. That's exactly. And I think we, you know, to the questioner, I think, you know, how do you get your kids to get along? I think parents have to sort of look at the foundation their setting because kids don't just out of the blue fight all the time. You know, that that's not in their nature.

So the question has to be, what tone are you setting in the house? Well, it's funny. My parents, and they argue like cats and dogs. I guess we was like, we don't want to be like that. Right, right. But I'm not talking about arguing or not. It's are you establishing the foundations of respect? Right.

Like, do they respect you or do they think you want a day little friends? Right. Right. Because what I do with Malie, it did with Malie and Sasha, you know, I didn't, I didn't, mediate in between them, you know, because I was like, I love you both. And if I don't know who was wrong, you know, don't ask me to get in it. But what I would say is that if I have to get in it, everybody's in trouble. You know, that's all I can do because I don't want to play favorites. I'm sure who's telling the truth. And so if I'm involved, I don't care what happened. Everybody,

play is shut down, doors closed, computers off. It's over. And it was. And it was, was interesting that, you know, they wouldn't want me involved as a result. So they'd wind up. You'd hear them in the White House because their doors faced each other. There was a hall door into their rooms and their two bedrooms faced each other. And I'd say, you know, go, I don't care what you do, but figure it out. So you'd hear this, that quiet fighting like, Sasha, if you don't, and I'll tell you, and I'm, wait, man's going to hear. Slam and a slam. But eventually, they'd figure it out because they wanted to keep playing. The other thing we had to do was dinner time altogether.

Oh, yeah, we did that. I know that if we had a phone, if we had dinner. Well, even we had dinner. When we didn't have dinner. Even when we didn't have dinner, we had to sit around so he could tell us there ain't no food. And then we'd have a discussion. about it, but, you know, dinner was something that you didn't have an option. It was no, can I go in your house.

That was the same way in our house. Sit your seat and eat. And then we had to clean up, like I would have to wash dishes or I would have to, you know, take out the garbage, clean. You know, each one had an assignment. Yeah. So those kind of things, you realize we can't watch TV until we all do this. until the kitchen is clean.

Yeah. Right? So it's simple things like that that teach your kids to work together. And also my mother buddyed us up, right? So it's always like Sean, everywhere I went, that's your baby. He had to take his baby with him. What's the age difference? Me and Sean a year and a half.

And me and Kenan went like that. Year and a half, that's your baby. And we just, me and Sean, we dream together. We used to watch TV together. We used to watch Avenue. Costello, we watch honeymooners. Because in our little minds at four and five years old, we was going to

create our on TV show. Really? You knew that early. Yeah, because I seen them on TV and I was just like, wait, we can actually do this? That's right. So from the young age of like seven, eight years old, me and Sean, we was like, we're going to write our own show. So we just studied. And we had this buddy thing we always did. And my mother made us go, we were freaking fracked. If Sean was there,

it was, my father used to call us Maul and Sean. Marlon Sean. We have to go to go get their coffee. We have to go to a grocery store together. They buddyed us up. And so that makes you take care of your younger sibling

and makes you be responsible as an older sibling. And it's weird how that is in the next generation. I was just going to ask that. How you doing with your own kids? Mara and Naya, you know. You got Anaya in Berlin that paired up. You got Caden and Maverick. You know, each one has their...

Or their buddy cousin, like my son and Sean's daughter, Ilya, they're 23 years old. They're at my house writing together, they're directing together, they're shooting music videos together. And then Layla, who's Sean's other daughter, is a DJ and a singer and a producer. And so the three of them all work together. And they never really argue. They have so much fun. You would think they were siblings. We have a very tight-knit family.

Very. What are some of the strategies that you guys, other than buddying up, that you learn from your parents that you're using on your own children? Because I think Gina would be able to hopefully take something away from that. Well, the interesting thing is I go, you know, and some things I should have done just like my parents, but I was so traumatized growing up that like I, like with my kids, my sons,

I didn't like spanking them. I hated when I had to spank them. Like, it hurt me. I hit my kids one time. Yeah, I was the same way. And I cried like a baby because I was like, I can't do that to them. It made me to think about. I felt silly for the, and I took a couple of spankings for me to be like, yeah, you know what?

After the 52nd one, I was like, you know. But you felt like, you know, this is a little kid. And the fact that I can't think of any better way to get my point across than to smack somebody on the butt, I felt embarrassed in the same way. Well, see, boys are different, though. Like, boys are actively seeking destruction. That's like that they are. I thought you're going to say discipline.

They just do the stupidest thing. They jump off the roof. My son would jump off the roof into the pool. Yeah. Watch this, Dad. What? And he's in the pool and you just go, do you know how many different ways you could hurt yourself? But that was their thing, riding a bike down the hill backwards.

It's like, what are you guys doing? But that's just something in, I think, boys' DNA that just makes them just a little aggressive and stupid. You know, whereas my daughters, I talk to them. You know, I frustrate them, you know, because, like with my daughters, I realize, you know, a certain age, they don't want to hear what you guys. That's, and it comes pretty early. Yeah. And so what I do is go, well, you're right where you want to be, baby. And when you get tired of being there, you'll change.

Yeah. Yeah. That doesn't help me right now. But I know that I can't tell you. You don't want to hear what I have to say about your boyfriend. Your boyfriend. You don't, you don't want to. I'm not going to allow you to deflect.

I'm just going, I'm on your team. I'm not going to be the obstacle in your way that you're, I don't want to be the fight. I'm here to support you, love you, whatever you want to do. It's your life. I'll pick up the pieces afterwards. Because you realize if you, you know, if you try to, you know, let's stay with the boyfriend, say something about someone's boyfriend, then you're attacking their ability to pick someone for themselves. So they defend them.

They hold on and they fight. But if you just step back, then they're going to see. that they'll see what I see. Mm-hmm. And they'll see it quicker. Oh, this dude ain't nothing. Well, I talk about that is like you guys are handing your children their lives and you're doing it early so that they can learn from their own mistakes.

And I think nowadays a lot of parents are trying to live their kids' lives for them so that they don't make any mistakes and don't feel any sense of failure, which keeps them from learning. I tend to agree with that. in my parenting principles too. It's like, you know what? I raised y'all to be, to have some sense, to have some judgment. And at some point, you've got to practice that, which means that I've got to let go.

So even in the White House, you know, my motto before these kids went to college, I gave them more rope. Because I was like, here, have more freedom. That's because you had Secret Service much. Well, that was also true, you know. Barack will say his real reason for wanting to be a president. Second term was that having teenage girls running around with men with guns. But yeah, he would say that all the time. He's like, okay, I think I can do this another four years because look at them.

They're growing up. But knowing that they wouldn't live with that kind of security for their entire lives, it was like one day you will be out there. And I think that the reverse happened. now is that everybody's trying to hold on, right, to their kids. But one day they're going to get out there. And the only thing that is for certain, for kids, getting out in the world is they're going to get hit with some failure.

That's the only thing that's guaranteed. So we've got to start preparing them early for that, letting them practice making their own decisions and, you know, choosing the knucklehead boyfriend and holding your tongue and, you know, and showing them that. you trust them so that when they do fail, they'll come back. This episode of IMO is brought to you by Theraflu. Hey, it's Craig Robinson here, and let me tell you, being sick is no joke. But you know what's even tougher?

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It's funny, I hold my tongue, but I say what I'm going to say. I have to give my honest opinion, but what I'm not going to do is give you like a real emotion that's tethered to that. I'm just going to say what I got to say as an adult and then whatever you choose to do, that's on you. but I had to tell you what you asked my opinion. I'm going to give it to you straight. Now after that, I love you. Well, if you ask my opinion, I'm going to tell you. But if you don't, Keenan always say,

unworthy inquiry. You ask them to tell her if you don't, you've got to let life talk. You all, the way you all impersonate your brothers and sisters. We're all doing an impression of Sean. Doing an impression of Keenan. Well, it's, Speaking of parenting, I wanted to talk, Marlon, a bit about, you know, just so proud of how you are being a role model for dealing with a child that's transgender.

Absolutely. And that's, you know, that warms my heart, particularly as a black man. You know, would you care to share that journey of? Well, I learned, like, like, and their transition really took. taught me what real unconditional love was. When they went through the transition, I actually went through the transition. I went from denial to complete acceptance.

And it took me a week to get there. And what I've learned as a parent is for you to stop loving your child because of their choice and their life, that's a poor reflection on you. You know what I mean? When there's people that go, I'm not going to associate with you because you do that or this is against God and this is like, listen, I am not here to judge.

I am not God. Only God can judge. And I say this, you know, and if that's a mistake and we get to heaven and God don't let my child in, I'm going to shave a beard and sneak him in through the back. But I'm going to love my baby. And I'm never going to, I'm a father. And I'm always going to defend them. I'm always going to protect them.

I always going to respect them. And there's nothing anybody could ever tell me. I could lose fans good. I lost people that are small-minded, small-hearted. and self-loathing. So goodbye. And I gain, for every one I lose, I gain 150 more. Yeah.

You know? So for me, as the uncle, you know, it's I love you, period, right? But somebody got to write a rule book and how I need to treat you. Because I don't know. Like, hey, buddy. Yeah. I shake you a girl. Can I put you in a headlock?

Can I treat you like my other nephews? I don't know. Yeah. You know, and I don't want you to ever feel that I'm judging you. That's right, because you just don't know. I used to say it's like going to your grandmother and expecting them to learn a new language overnight. You know, it's like they've been speaking this language, using pronouns in this way for their entire life. And to get it wrong, and it's a mutual patience with the process.

And they've been very patient with me and their mother, because, you know, when they're change their name. I'm like, I called you a my for 23 years. What do you mean? Kai. I know you was a my. What you mean them? I know you was her. And it was a process. And at the end of the day, it's respect. That's what they want. And that's their wishes. So respect their wishes. And I know that the same child is in there. They're brilliant, right? And that's all I really care about is they're kind-hearted, they're really funny, have a great sense of humor, and extremely intelligent. And, you know, those are the things I'm proud of. Are you a good person? I don't care about your sexuality and, you know, all these other things, your gender, or associations. I care

that you are a good-hearted person. You take care of your siblings, your mother, you're respectful. They have been wonderful their whole lives. I've never had any problem with them at all. So, you know. And I like to be putting that out there for the world. I mean, because we just, especially in our community, you know, we've sacrificed a lot over this issue. And it's all about realizing that we got to love people how they come to us, period, not just our kids, but all kids. And the notion that we would put people. people in unfair advantages, put them their lives at risk over some nonsense. Because those are bad people.

End of the day, when you are being divisive like that, you are a bad person. Your core is bad. No matter what you do, you're not going to make your way in heaven. My job is to be here to give laughter and to give love. And everything, that got to be my intention and will always be. And like I said, I'm a father. That's my baby. And, you know, I'll fight with them to the end, period.

I love that. You guys should, I mean, that's just absolutely wonderful. And your parents did such a great job with you. I sound like an old man. I know, right. This is how people talk to us. You know, it's just, and you love to hear when people tell you unsolicited things about your kids. You know, I know I do.

When people come up and say, you know, your son was. doing such and such, and he's just such a wonderful kid. And I think for Gina, she's just got to have the confidence to raise them now. Don't be friends with them now. Raise them now. And they'll be great human beings that you can be friends with when they're in their 30s. You know, our parents were not our friends. They were people who loved us and taught us respect and boundaries.

and hard work, and I'm not saying this for us, but I'm saying this for people listening, because I think we get this wrong about what our kids need and want. And our kids need and want guidance, respect, love, discipline. You know, none of that, we all got disciplined, you know, but none of that stopped us from loving our parents and revering them, you know. So I want people out there. For five minutes after the ass movements, I'll be like, I want to have just to get by the train. I have cursed out my mother underneath my breath on several occasions, you know, but you never did it to their face.

You know, this notion that I hate my mom. It's like, you better say that in your head, in your room. You don't say that out loud, you know. Parents are too afraid to set those kind of boundaries. And I think that's also part of the challenge that we're facing in this generation. We're replacing love and respect with stuff. And I just, you know, I just, I want to be a proponent for reinstating some of the stuff that we had, some of the, some of the good old wisdom that our parents had in raising kids.

So we have room in the parenting proposition to be a little more like, get up, you know, get yourself together, you know, to criticize them, to give them strong guidance, to give them our opinions, to direct them. And engage with them. And engage with them. I have this little two-year-old. Yeah. And she's such a gift. Yeah. And when I have her on Mondays, we go to dinner or we, I cook for her.

I, it's just me and her. Yeah. Daddy and Axel. And we do every, I make sure and she'll say, Dad, come play with me. Yeah. And so I go to a room and we'll have a tea party. And, you know, those things, I think creating those memories for me, that's the most,

she brings out the kid in me. And I think parents need to take more time when you have time to spend with them in that way and that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, you know, play with them. Yeah, that that that, that's a great place to start with sort of parting advice for Gina, right? You can't be too busy to parent. You can't be too tired to parent. Never. You can't, you know, you can't be too. You can't outsource it to a phone.

And you can't. Or to a nanny. Yeah. Those are your kids. Yeah. My mama didn't have no nanny. My mother took kids. My mother had black elbows.

Yeah. Light skin woman black elbow. Why? Because we had a black windowsill in the projects. And my mother used to sit on that window sill and watch us play in the middle. All of our kids. Damon get down from there. Sean, don't hit them with that bad.

My mother sat there on that window sill watching us to the point to where her elbows was black. My mama watched her children. Don't be having other people watch your kids. kids. Keep your eyes on your kids. That is your responsibility. You know? I know, really. It's like, did I do enough? Did I do enough? But no, Damien, any party advice for Gina? I think you just have to love them and accept everything. Yeah.

And expect nothing. because you can't put all your hopes and dreams in them. You have to let them, you know, what is life if you don't learn lessons, you know, and they will figure it out. It's four of them. But right now they're probably figuring out who's the alpha. Yeah, that's right. Right?

Some of it is like trying to figure out what the hierarchy is. You have to just trust that they're going to figure it out. And you're there setting the example of what it all. ultimately should be. And I find that your kids are raising you in this way. They're trying to teach you something about yourself. They're trying to, they're asking you to be more patient. They're asking you to find different ways to communicate.

The kids are really teaching you. Like my child taught me unconditional love. I used to always say unconditional love. And then it was like, okay, you really want to practice that? Well, do it. You go. And that made me go, oh, this is what I was asking of people. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. I do. Yeah, I like that because it's like, what are your kids telling you in their disputes? Yes. Are they asking for attention? Are they just looking to grow? You know, it may not be a problem at all that your kids are figuring out how to get along with each other. You know, an argument is not always a bad thing, you know.

A little scuffle may not be a bad thing. It depends on what's at the foundation of it. Sometimes it's you. My mother would go, where you get that foul mouth from? Oh. It's like, you're showing you yourself. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, you guys are, you know, pretty amazing. Thank you. Apples don't. It takes amazing to know amazing. Don't fall far from the tree. I wish I knew you. your parents. I did. They do. I wish I could look your parents in the eye and tell them, wow, you know, what wisdom. That's what IMO is about. It's like there's, we now have wisdom.

We're now at the age where we are them. And we do, we have learned a lot from them. And part of that obligation is to share it with folks who maybe didn't have that. Absolutely. Right. Because there are a lot of people trying to figure out, can I be a good parent if I don't have money, if I'm not this or that, you know? And we are all living proof that there's a way to do it, you know. There's a philosophy to follow. And people are looking for help out there and that, you know, you're willing to bring your wisdom to this table. You know, I'm just grateful. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us. Yeah. Great, great time. Y'all are good people. Privile. Yeah, yeah, agree. But the question can we be good entertainers in this podcast space?

I think you did. It's doing an amazing job. Absolutely. Yes. Oh, he's just looking for a compliment. No, I paid him early. I need to take him. I got to do it.

No, I appreciate you guys being here. It's great to meet you. Thank you for everyone. Yeah. Yeah. Good stuff. Good stuff.