In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen - Jayshree Ullal - Arista Networks की CEO (Hindi version)

Episode Date: January 30, 2026

इस एपिसोड में, Nicolai Tangen की बातचीत अरिस्टा नेटवर्क्स की मशहूर CEO जयश्री उल्लाल से ...होती है। जयश्री समझाती हैं कि कैसे अरिस्टा आज के AI सिस्टम के लिए बड़े-बड़े नेटवर्क चलाता है, क्यों AI का ट्रैफिक पहले के सभी ट्रैफिक से बिल्कुल अलग है, और क्यों अब सबसे बड़ी रुकावट हार्डवेयर नहीं बल्कि बिजली की कमी है। वे अरिस्टा की कहानी बताती हैं—कैसे एक छोटी इंजीनियरिंग टीम जिसकी कमाई शून्य थी, दुनियाभर में लीडर बन गई, वो कल्चर जिसने कंपनी को सफल बनाया, और इलेक्ट्रिकल इंजीनियर से CEO बनने तक का उनका अपना सफर। यह एक खुली और गहरी बातचीत है जो लीडरशिप, नई सोच और AI की दुनिया में नेटवर्किंग के भविष्य के बारे में है।——————Jayshree Ullal - CEO of Arista Networks In this episode, Nicolai Tangen sits down with Jayshree Ullal, the influential CEO of Arista Networks. Jayshree explains how Arista powers the demanding networks behind today’s AI systems, why AI traffic is fundamentally different from anything that came before, and why power—not hardware—is now the biggest constraint. She reflects on Arista’s evolution from a small engineering team with zero revenue to a global leader, the culture that shaped its success, and her own path from electrical engineer to CEO. A candid and insightful conversation about leadership, innovation, and the future of networking in an AI-driven world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi everyone, I'm Nikolai Tangan, Norwegian Soren Wealth Fund's CEO. And today I'm here a this person who is AI for very important. Jai Shri Ullal, who Arista Networks' keyo is Jayhashri
Starting point is 00:00:16 has a lot of this year's more than any better than any can't. Jayhashri, you look at you. Here here here back a lot of a lot
Starting point is 00:00:25 like, Nikolai. I'm a little sardy so if I'm naq so I'm sorry. No, no. Now, we're going to
Starting point is 00:00:30 start from the first start. I'm going to this podcast. I'm not going to be a lot of so it's not. So, let's
Starting point is 00:00:37 start from the start. So, let's see, Arista, what's the question. So,
Starting point is 00:00:43 Arista, the most demand-wale mission-critical network is making high-performance, high-scale,
Starting point is 00:00:50 low latency, high reliability, high-availability, high-avail-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-tomation, high-telemetry-we-we-old-old- which adhonic data centers and AI needs to pull up you're at a lot of level
Starting point is 00:01:01 on a lot of level on a lot of level of a high demand has. And, especially for in the first one decade, Arista,
Starting point is 00:01:07 this field in pioneer and leader, both of the group of upher and I've seen, if you
Starting point is 00:01:13 you think, if you're that's type chips engine then, then, networking is their
Starting point is 00:01:17 way way is, it's right way I'm, I'm the chips both things
Starting point is 00:01:23 drive Khrase AI's in the world, where you processing is GPUs,
Starting point is 00:01:27 or you know any of the name. But when you do you're going to you have to you need to
Starting point is 00:01:34 do you need to do you? And this the way, if a car speed is 100 m'clock but it
Starting point is 00:01:41 can't be 30 mil per hour is because infrastructure that's much to
Starting point is 00:01:44 do you need to help so you you're you're you're very much
Starting point is 00:01:50 use of a We're all accelerator, users, mission critical workload information highway, which name you give you. So, let me, now I'm in my office in my office in chat GPT on a prompt downed, I'm how to use your products how is this service how does it? Yeah, so we're, we're the other part of the picture he come are.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Like my parents always said, you're what do you? Because they don't see what we actually what are. And when you're Arista's prompt typeed, So, at that point we're basically everything to connect to everything's connected to this podcast on the conversation is without possible
Starting point is 00:02:27 not possible. So high-intensity traffic pattern, chahe they're a user, device, workload, machines, servers, storage, or
Starting point is 00:02:36 now, now, the higher-ealer application to be, we connect and it's switch and routing platform of a set in just a
Starting point is 00:02:45 leaf spine architecture where multiple leaves a aggregate spine connect with and today are these may AI spine be can be able to
Starting point is 00:02:54 this world's big high-scale platform. But, they need to power to need power to support and
Starting point is 00:02:59 chips and power to power to need to and here here here here is Aristas's
Starting point is 00:03:04 especially its extensible operating system EOS is where we where we platform and
Starting point is 00:03:11 networking connectivity to the data to power to power We're structured data, unstructured data, flow data, and these all of their
Starting point is 00:03:19 specific software, to work in work. And AI's networking, the first systems were, how are different? If we're a little bit more 20 years ago, networking to look at, the internet's start, research community, had. That time, TCIP-Jas protocols and algorithms research projects, especially ARP&IT.
Starting point is 00:03:39 This foundation on today's modern internet is the foundation, where research which has practical networking systems role used. There were many protocols like XNS, Apple Talk, OSI, and IP. But in 2000, TCP IP, the world in the world
Starting point is 00:03:51 in the internet communication common language been being. 2,015 to 20, up to, after, just TCP IP is not enough. Because networking
Starting point is 00:03:59 need more complex were complex. This door, people were the world the world's big cloud platforms began like, AWS, Azure,
Starting point is 00:04:06 GCP, Google, and many others. They had so many big level, unprecedented scale, that they were that they could where they're
Starting point is 00:04:12 to get so they're so they're multi-tenant been to be because they're just a company
Starting point is 00:04:19 not and he's many people but he's many people have been able to make sure that has been done and
Starting point is 00:04:27 it's going to depend on so they they're a mission critical assets can't so he
Starting point is 00:04:31 e-commerce application or database or other. Now, as AI in the
Starting point is 00:04:36 last year has been and this new twist is a because cloud traffic is AI traffic is a lot of different. AI traffic, and we all have
Starting point is 00:04:45 chat GPT and other things start with the same complexity and search is a lot of times more than a lot more than ever seen. So, before, ever the same thing to see, to this for this traffic pattern of more, more than a less latency,
Starting point is 00:05:01 and high performance to be. So, on the AIME's before we were doing, it's we're front-end network which standard CPU, storage, general purpose query, indexing, searching, this type of things jrothed. AI's coming,
Starting point is 00:05:20 we're just a thousand or then, if a lothons, if you're connecting, and as I said, as GPU traffic for a lot of traffic need, like, as it's traffic's quality,
Starting point is 00:05:33 traffic's intensity, traffic's durability. peak burst in the big burst in the matter of very intensive is the we're often it's often
Starting point is 00:05:42 back-end network or scale-up or scale-out network we're going to we're not a lot of parameters and
Starting point is 00:05:49 metrics were to until we're I'll say that's the lot of things were like an infini-band
Starting point is 00:05:57 network was a fiscite network, a CSI network and CSI network and Arista AI for back-end
Starting point is 00:06:02 in the internet and IP and standard-based capabilities to bring in the business in the world in the network's
Starting point is 00:06:09 in the now the now the the I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:06:17 the most big power is because in GPU and and and optics and all and all things
Starting point is 00:06:25 power consumption not a lot first we we were about we were talking about we're at we're at
Starting point is 00:06:30 we're talking about we're see the same right? It's the football field's
Starting point is 00:06:36 big that you're and you are you and you are the power so that
Starting point is 00:06:40 our AI provider or cloud provider is this level power not if
Starting point is 00:06:46 you're if you are you're you're you to look you're
Starting point is 00:06:49 you're you're three to five years can't be the place. The Gaguer and probably
Starting point is 00:06:52 still the big problem. But one you know, if you're you're not you're the same way to
Starting point is 00:06:58 you're the same way, we're doing you need to call to call have to be but you now are
Starting point is 00:07:04 a high infrastructure is a lot money is how you see it? Do you this is a
Starting point is 00:07:11 way? Is it a way? Yeah, this is the badal over the a very teasy's
Starting point is 00:07:16 so networking the working the current cycle to 1GB,
Starting point is 00:07:22 then 1 gigabit then 10 gigabit and 100 gigabit to reach to get back
Starting point is 00:07:26 every 5 years. But now 100, 400, 1, 2, and 3.
Starting point is 00:07:33 2 terabit to migration every bar in 12 months in
Starting point is 00:07:36 here are that. I mean the bad the first in
Starting point is 00:07:39 the first 18 to 18 to 18 to in are in.
Starting point is 00:07:42 It's meant is that we we've we've got we've got we've got this year we're
Starting point is 00:07:48 this year we're first of the year we're going to think of the speed scale is a amount of
Starting point is 00:07:54 because you have you have all you have all the throughput and unumannet latency for all all the same you're all right
Starting point is 00:08:02 you're in I was in I was I was you, I was you know, you know what you're doing it can't
Starting point is 00:08:07 how can't how much it's a lot internet boom very, very sthir way was a time
Starting point is 00:08:14 was a peak in 1999 2000 in 2009 2000 which was that was and then you and then
Starting point is 00:08:21 Y2K but then it's the internet to develop to develop to be 15 years.
Starting point is 00:08:26 I was I was in 1903 before acquisition from when the company a billion dollar's
Starting point is 00:08:31 came and when I did it 20% in 20% billion dollar company was
Starting point is 00:08:37 where Catalyst Switch, which I think that still the best product line, at least a third-yogad do they were but the part was that it
Starting point is 00:08:46 was a little, and it was a peak was, a week for two-sale it was a way of a lot is a lot of a lot of
Starting point is 00:08:54 the reason why you were being the first-and-a-and-a- thing, they were up sikud-as-sard in five-sard-sall-same in-same-a-same
Starting point is 00:09:00 and over-a-old-old- -one-old-old-old-old-old-old. It's like-houser-gggguna-old-rerereys-old. And the third part, I'm the most important, because people are this to look at it, is the problem
Starting point is 00:09:14 are we're in I'm in Bubble in Merex. I'm a lot of we're in a lot of a bubble in, we're in a long bubble in. This CLEX
Starting point is 00:09:22 just companies who came, they're funding made and then banned-ho-gained. This Microsoft, Google, META and Oracle like a similar
Starting point is 00:09:29 companies who are they're taking them to make them. It's also, new clouds be, like Open AI and Anthropics.
Starting point is 00:09:37 which ishacr to do you. So, I'll say, it's a bubble than a great-a-trend like it's a
Starting point is 00:09:46 time to here's going to be a lot of time. We're going to we have overbuilding so we
Starting point is 00:09:52 can't how we can't be that's not this is up-uped not so up power and not
Starting point is 00:09:58 this this is a time will be time it's a our aim it's over it's
Starting point is 00:10:04 a ability to where's the births. So, I'm not the nine-09-199. When all the people'd make
Starting point is 00:10:10 companies, and they'd say, we'd say, they'd be able to be able to do. This birth situation is all too. Here,
Starting point is 00:10:15 this is the first need to be the need to be the same big problem. But again, it's not, that I'm not I'll take not
Starting point is 00:10:24 and I'm not say I'm that it's a bubble not, but it's saying it's very easy and a lot of a
Starting point is 00:10:30 and a lot of a matter of But it's I know, it's a steady state is a way that
Starting point is 00:10:36 we're all have been there's a but I'm not think it it's a year that's a year
Starting point is 00:10:42 and it's this thing and these companies are doing they're doing that they're they're
Starting point is 00:10:47 they're doing they're the the same the same the same big answer. So,
Starting point is 00:10:52 you're the people, so you're the client hyper-scaler are there, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:55 cloud companies, Microsoft like companies, yeah, so customer customer base, how concentrated
Starting point is 00:11:02 are? Well, they have always concentrated are very as an example Microsoft
Starting point is 00:11:06 and Metta 2000 in 2014 public being public after the revenue
Starting point is 00:11:11 every each per percent and I not I'm this
Starting point is 00:11:15 concentration for not I'm I'm happy and I'm
Starting point is 00:11:20 so they have the revenue of 10% been but it
Starting point is 00:11:23 but the the denominator big is the We're very speciality cloud providers enterprise campus in diversify
Starting point is 00:11:30 but if I'm not this not tell you, they're not really and partnership never not really much much so it's a mousathe. When AI capability to make the part
Starting point is 00:11:43 is the best impressed? Which country? No, no, the United States, and we lead, we're doing. Doosieres in
Starting point is 00:11:52 other countries are going to but in scale in the same deal in the world's in the world. And the companies we're working in those, most part are US in. Is there any other other country that you're doing? I'm like, I'm like it's
Starting point is 00:12:06 some of the Nordic nations in the Middle East in the UK may be some of it. It's a little bit of Korea and India in. So, it's no doubt that it's many other international locations
Starting point is 00:12:22 to the same to reach to the when you see the investment where are so you're
Starting point is 00:12:27 you're going to you're going to you're going to the world before the I'm going to they're not they're not
Starting point is 00:12:34 more than they're more than they're more sponsored not so they're they're all they're all technology and
Starting point is 00:12:42 communication to how much about how I'm going to I'm in middle east and I'm there's a
Starting point is 00:12:49 progress of Raffaar's very impressed where they have been very high investment and investments and
Starting point is 00:12:54 are there's so I'm it's a kind of a bit of a kind of look at a impressed
Starting point is 00:13:00 being about you're being, you know, you have you have a AI data center networking for market
Starting point is 00:13:05 market's a part of the you're very to get to how you? How are to we're just
Starting point is 00:13:11 just that we just need to it's just it's a lot we're more absolutely to make sure to have been
Starting point is 00:13:19 is that if you're high-speed market to look at least we're sure we're about you're seeing the same speed we're maybe you're
Starting point is 00:13:27 that you're about you're looking at least. This is this is a company 2,08 in the company was made
Starting point is 00:13:34 and it's not a lot of we've done it we've done it but putke to work and I think this company
Starting point is 00:13:42 culture to optimize to optimize to endy Bectualsheim and Ken Duda had to be able to they've got our software, our hardware, infrastructure for the same name for it's better
Starting point is 00:13:53 to make it. So, our market share actually is the part from the cost of our innovation to appreciate. We're made by engineers by engineers for being made. We're quality architecture and we're very time and
Starting point is 00:14:05 support them support because we're a mission critical mahaled in a center where we're downed then, then we all know it's all over there, if we're down to, we're the world's
Starting point is 00:14:16 the biggest big a and I'm not a lot of this in a big thing in I'm a methodical
Starting point is 00:14:22 way he's a and we're a product not used that's a thing that's before he in the bazaar in the
Starting point is 00:14:27 launch-gared you. Now, you've spent 15 years to make, their data center business
Starting point is 00:14:33 to bring to so I just just know, that's just how to work to work to work.
Starting point is 00:14:37 It's just just a data center business's I'm much, I'm a same time I'm a
Starting point is 00:14:42 When I joined CISCO joined then the company revenue was about 650 million and market cap 6 billion was.
Starting point is 00:14:48 This is it not a year-up not, but a youth company was a new-a-company. I got a moment and the same
Starting point is 00:14:53 company's many many the same during I made, I'm making, and develop to develop
Starting point is 00:14:59 to give down to give down. First, this Catlist was 1,000, 200, then 5,000, 6,000,
Starting point is 00:15:06 500, 4,000, 3,000. So, this switching brand when I was the first It's the first time it was zero. And I'm today,
Starting point is 00:15:12 I remember that the first year it was 40 million, then the second year, and then the third year is one billion had been, and this sort of things worldwide web and
Starting point is 00:15:22 internet can't even if your product, why, why not have, I thought I a rocket ship a hissue on the
Starting point is 00:15:29 great, it was a great company and it was a but I was I thought, I'd like, I'd be a big company
Starting point is 00:15:36 in any big company I didn't want to be in I'd want to try to but I'm a single-in' but they're 15 years
Starting point is 00:15:42 really good yeah. What's you know? What's you know, what you think?
Starting point is 00:15:46 I'm not here here here's the thing, you know, customers on customers focus.
Starting point is 00:15:51 CISco in customer focus culture is. I'm that it's on innovation,
Starting point is 00:15:56 engineering and quality on the quality on but I did it. But I've said to
Starting point is 00:16:02 night two when I would have been very, then I'd be the phone would have, you know, if I'm very important, but that's
Starting point is 00:16:12 important, that's important, that's the way that's the culture is very important. Now, you're
Starting point is 00:16:19 maybe Cisco's the CEO can't be the you, so you want to be the ? I don't know,
Starting point is 00:16:26 I'm not I'm I'm a Sisco for Sisco for I was a CEO or not,
Starting point is 00:16:30 because I Siscoe was an accidental executive was. I never planned not I didn't have
Starting point is 00:16:33 I'm the executive I'm going I'm going. I'm I'm going to I'm, but I'm,
Starting point is 00:16:39 I'm like, do you know, I'm not many people are not there, I'm not, it's not, that you're
Starting point is 00:16:45 you're going to think, hey, I'm Sisco, I'm a superstar going to be going to
Starting point is 00:16:50 go to be a you know, you're you're not a time I'm five-sale to me, but I'm a lot of
Starting point is 00:16:58 this is I'm going to I'm a product was a, I'm engineers with work with customers for
Starting point is 00:17:04 products to make a matter of I was was a lot I'm not thought I'm like I'm
Starting point is 00:17:10 more big capitalities or Cisco in CEO being a issue is so
Starting point is 00:17:15 when I actually I thought I thought I I'm a different I'm a lot I'm
Starting point is 00:17:21 like clean take or energy or solar or battery and I really I actually in Silicon
Starting point is 00:17:26 Valley back and I'm back which I I was I mean, an entrepreneur and I'm
Starting point is 00:17:33 Arista in when I'm in when it's there's a real real estate and there's the first thing that I'm
Starting point is 00:17:38 that's the thing that I was that I'm that I'm doing that's I'm a money to let's a
Starting point is 00:17:45 startup is my revenue zero 30 people in a office in a so I'm you like you're
Starting point is 00:17:50 so I'm how I'm how I'm I'm I'm I'm not I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:17:56 it's Andy and I, this is the time. We're one of the other we're doing. So this Andy Bechtolheim is? Andy Bechtelheim,
Starting point is 00:18:02 who company's German co-founder when I was Cisco in, we had been their company Granite to and that we had done
Starting point is 00:18:08 we've done with other way. He's the other than he and I was a MECrocy and I did you, and I'm a
Starting point is 00:18:17 person who's one and 18707 to know that's more than more than some more than so much than he looked at
Starting point is 00:18:23 When they saw, I'm taking and I didn't know what I'm going to be the I just my mind safe, I'm just
Starting point is 00:18:30 my mind there's a start-up I said, oh, and my first reaction was, oh,
Starting point is 00:18:35 no, Andy, I'm still networking and switching and I'm but as the
Starting point is 00:18:40 founders, what were trying to and the engineer what were making, I'm
Starting point is 00:18:45 I'm interested because it was networking and switching but but a twist with a
Starting point is 00:18:49 internet and internet and catlist switching just I knowed this is a
Starting point is 00:18:52 different thing. It's what was that's you know that's a lot of
Starting point is 00:18:56 this thing. It's software and architecture very unique that's
Starting point is 00:19:01 many people do you have they have five use case for five operating
Starting point is 00:19:05 systems and every each one and many many hundred things
Starting point is 00:19:09 that's only only one only binary image. There's
Starting point is 00:19:14 there's there's some state-driven it automatically recover and the agent back comes out of and it was a
Starting point is 00:19:24 Christmas tree light where one light after the light's end up and all the lights we'd be able to be able to do you. It's a system that's just the LED bedal did it, and the whole system and people but,
Starting point is 00:19:51 but I'm I'm a little bit of the year was a year 2008 was that time financial collapse
Starting point is 00:19:58 was our our customers from one of the and brothers were what you know? I know
Starting point is 00:20:05 So, Arista in my entrepreneurial career of the short not really now is
Starting point is 00:20:11 that now is that we're not that we're we're not we're all over-chard-chard- -chard-and-bent financial collapse one of them
Starting point is 00:20:18 one of the other competitors, Cisco, to him on case to us other part was the COVID and the whole supply chain's also a lot of so we're going to we've got to come and here to be a lot
Starting point is 00:20:32 good. What do you need? What do you need? You're a start-up and think we're going to have? So, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:20:42 I'm many colleagues you'll tell you that I never thought that I'm justicco to takeer to be a Because in the first we were very unique use case that we were focused that Cisco was not not even being involved in it, or to do not
Starting point is 00:20:55 give them. Like high-frequency trading and low latency. These were such use cases which in Cisco's not only care of. And our first $100 million revenue, the most of here from. Our second use case was Cloud, and Cisco, it's MSDC,
Starting point is 00:21:12 which multimassively scaled data centers, he said but he didn't even didn't even not even that's the customers
Starting point is 00:21:20 what are the customers, what are they do they're in the actual way, they were they were
Starting point is 00:21:26 not to CIS COESCO or not he Arista because they they had they they had
Starting point is 00:21:29 their system made, they had they were they're they're very disatisfaction
Starting point is 00:21:34 to dissatisfaction so. So, I thought, we thought we we're a we're a
Starting point is 00:21:38 kind of So, big corporate corporation, especially Cisco, that same, that time, are they? Behtarine customer service example is.
Starting point is 00:21:51 As a many examples and many can't you. But let's see, I'm the same the same question. If you
Starting point is 00:21:57 if you're if you're you call then you think, what do you? And, let's know, and you
Starting point is 00:22:04 have a network problem and you'll call to you can't you can't you can't expectation
Starting point is 00:22:09 that you'll be able to and you'll get to get the same, we're in often at a question,
Starting point is 00:22:14 you're going to you're going to you're going to say, it's not a there's not you're not, but we're
Starting point is 00:22:22 we're going to ask what the problem is, our average resolution time very high, it's a way,
Starting point is 00:22:29 it's a emergency in an emergency in a marriage to a lot, you're you're not questions,
Starting point is 00:22:33 you're you're still you're symptoms, you're we're So our average resolution time 25 minutes. This is an unseuna record
Starting point is 00:22:40 because our team experts are brought and quality and support and along along. When you're high quality products make, if any other
Starting point is 00:22:48 configuration or support problem a, then we turn to action and we're there's just we're outsource not we're outsource
Starting point is 00:22:56 not. Our follow the sun model is, worldwide coverage every time. We're just response we're we're really response
Starting point is 00:23:02 and it's solve and average time quite come and it's a high-quality experience is a very high-quality experience is. How do you
Starting point is 00:23:09 how do you make sure you? It's a little personal time like it. I'm a calendar in a time
Starting point is 00:23:17 I just just I just think on and no meetings not because everyone who everyone
Starting point is 00:23:21 I want to me meeting to be I'm always I'm updated to be in a good
Starting point is 00:23:28 example for AI 2012 and 2013 in I made I've got I'm update because
Starting point is 00:23:35 I'm I'm not paying I'm not doing it and when November 2012 2012
Starting point is 00:23:39 was the CHAPT moment I thought that it tech industry for a
Starting point is 00:23:46 big milestone was a mind I had that I had I'm in January 2013
Starting point is 00:23:49 in optical conference OFC to talk to do there I optics long haul,
Starting point is 00:23:57 short hall, DWDM, co-packaged optics, DSP, whatever, about I'd talk to be back but I'm
Starting point is 00:24:04 this to be the conference use, AI, to discuss to a driver's to discuss to do.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And, this is to make, I got to because you are you talking from
Starting point is 00:24:15 PhD's audience to maybe maybe I'm more than me's
Starting point is 00:24:19 more know, and this the way I'm very very good always seem to be
Starting point is 00:24:25 a lot of a lot of people, you know, in the industry in their saithy
Starting point is 00:24:31 and Arista and there. Our organization in many top technical experts are you. You can't
Starting point is 00:24:38 how much can't do you? It's not . I can't be a way I can't
Starting point is 00:24:41 be a lot of things can't be a lot but I'm some good accuracy one to three years
Starting point is 00:24:48 kind of kind of other a good situation and then what are what are the next year?
Starting point is 00:24:55 I'm I think that we're the way that we're going to that's going to be a lot of we're going to
Starting point is 00:25:02 a AI's a frame version are we're about big clusters clusters of crores, and carbom parameters and
Starting point is 00:25:09 tokens of we, we see that we all these all terra-flops, terabts, or terabits capacity in
Starting point is 00:25:15 how it's see it's but I'm in the three years this is very important
Starting point is 00:25:21 I'm not not quite, I'm not I'm going to move to be a more distributed problem will be
Starting point is 00:25:26 we all we're we're all same same fit not and just Menframe client server
Starting point is 00:25:31 and after after after you know distributed PC and client and phone on the way the
Starting point is 00:25:36 way I think I think AI also I can't many different shapes and sizes
Starting point is 00:25:41 in it and you know this in this way this one is this and it's what implications
Starting point is 00:25:46 are? It's a significant. Because miniaturization is the big and the power system
Starting point is 00:25:52 to make a way more much difficult is it. It's the matter we need to reigning and
Starting point is 00:25:58 inference in translate and we have to and in many use cases in some resources in a
Starting point is 00:26:03 more resources, because if if you if you if you're if you're just bandwidth, power and
Starting point is 00:26:13 the biggest training workloads to charge. But if the capability in reasoning in law, using, distributed
Starting point is 00:26:21 way, general purpose compute and storage to lay to get to , the AI, hard desktop to reach
Starting point is 00:26:27 to reach up. Just big and powerful system to be limited not. Do you? Do you?
Starting point is 00:26:33 Do you think that? Technology's, the world, America and China and between two
Starting point is 00:26:36 parts of going to be able to be able to Today we're, ah, we're just the way we're
Starting point is 00:26:43 a political pehh wish, I'm not innovation and technology a small better than
Starting point is 00:26:48 field but I think we're all different nations are shasit and so I'm
Starting point is 00:26:54 I'm worried to be a good step up to we're we're we're always innovation
Starting point is 00:27:00 and we're always best talent with partnership have you have been you know,
Starting point is 00:27:05 I'm a I'm like an immigrant example who here came here came and here didn't have been in China in, whether it's in China in,
Starting point is 00:27:12 or London in or we need to get access and we need and we're bettering with the same need to work
Starting point is 00:27:17 now. Now, culture, how you how you describe can't? Arystah's a good
Starting point is 00:27:23 work, because if a public company on the only thing on a thing is easy to focus to be
Starting point is 00:27:28 easy to be there's a business model has a business model and that we have focused to focus we're going to
Starting point is 00:27:43 our own work our hardware and a chip member with a lot of a lot of quality problem. We've done with them and they've worked with us
Starting point is 00:27:50 and I had just software in a little patch to make a option but I made a full question and I made a pretty question and I've got to look you're not looking at
Starting point is 00:27:59 but it can't be able to can't and we're on our lot of your place
Starting point is 00:28:04 you're in this it's not we're back up but we're going to do you know
Starting point is 00:28:10 so people who we're doing that's the bad that all the other than all all the
Starting point is 00:28:15 good other so I'm so I'm a company to work for a work for
Starting point is 00:28:21 focus to a culture to our customers for the that is that I want to be that I'm
Starting point is 00:28:26 you can't you? You can't make sure do you make that this attitude in the attitude in the
Starting point is 00:28:29 organization share to this is it's a easy to you're going to get to be but you
Starting point is 00:28:35 but the thing is that's the management team to know, we're we're
Starting point is 00:28:40 we're we're the management team and we're sometimes people people
Starting point is 00:28:45 lose other other luckes or financial success because
Starting point is 00:28:48 but I think you you're you have you have the management team and
Starting point is 00:28:52 leaders are and now we're we're we're we're we're
Starting point is 00:28:55 are you are bringing and you are you make a lot more mustbue so it all the organization
Starting point is 00:28:59 and I'll say that we have been we're not we're we're we're still professional
Starting point is 00:29:06 manager not but they coach and team's players and every and every role
Starting point is 00:29:10 actively and give my president and CTO Ken Duda who is the company
Starting point is 00:29:18 founder also they they're they still they're so he our carmcharies to them to tell them
Starting point is 00:29:24 we're going to say, we're going to lead are we're we're going to say, we're not going to
Starting point is 00:29:28 do you? How do you? She'd I'm not not really see't. As I said, my seekne
Starting point is 00:29:34 sources are many things. When I I'm a customer to be they're much teach out of because they
Starting point is 00:29:40 they're a different things. This is a time. I'm a other engineers to be
Starting point is 00:29:45 many time to know, he's what they're and they're what's the things and they're
Starting point is 00:29:48 they're always me something or something something or you know to find out you know
Starting point is 00:29:55 or Jemini or Chatt GPT and you're very efficientity with a software developer can't be who complex
Starting point is 00:30:01 topics to understand easy I just I just in my just in my
Starting point is 00:30:04 small but it a good source of learning and and learn
Starting point is 00:30:10 my my most best the I'm much I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:30:15 but I'm but that's my a very much a different way. Jashri,
Starting point is 00:30:19 when you do you see what do you see? Yes. So, it's you know, you're very
Starting point is 00:30:24 safe is it really safe is that they're a good, and there's a element and there's about their
Starting point is 00:30:29 other to ask them to ask them. But I see, I'll see, ability, character,
Starting point is 00:30:35 moral values, culture, and what kind of person is, is, you're a good person
Starting point is 00:30:42 because you know, I want to I want to you know, that this hire not just not the result of
Starting point is 00:30:48 can't be but long as long as much to be and we're going to our culture
Starting point is 00:30:53 and we're in the kind of and then we're back on back on we're
Starting point is 00:30:59 so we're we're not long term about we think and so we're
Starting point is 00:31:04 and so we're who's who's such a kind of who people are
Starting point is 00:31:09 if you if you you're a lot of apotism but I'm my mind that it's a
Starting point is 00:31:16 good people because if you if you're the employee know, then chances there's that there's
Starting point is 00:31:20 that's a reality of that's if we're having to I'm always I'm always ready to be
Starting point is 00:31:27 you're always people. How many percent people are Indian background are? I'll
Starting point is 00:31:32 say, because our India in India there's a big facility is so it is this year
Starting point is 00:31:37 it's about 15 to about how much we're about we're in the world, you're in New Delhi, you'd be able to? So, when you'd
Starting point is 00:31:47 what do you'd like see? Yeah, my janu london in and perverish in Delhi and I've lived in United States my father was
Starting point is 00:31:56 he's a teacher, so they were they'd think that they'd like I'd do you, they'd first five IIT shrewed,
Starting point is 00:32:04 as you know they're very much much and a good reputation of, so I'm, I think that middle-class
Starting point is 00:32:12 in the institution education is a big big a lot of doing, you know, we know, we're very good to
Starting point is 00:32:19 just a good to do, school in school and go to my mother-pita did that they made me to
Starting point is 00:32:25 they can't make a so I never never seen. I never seen that I'd I'd be a one of
Starting point is 00:32:31 I'd take how school how I'm how I'm how to how much how much to come
Starting point is 00:32:35 to come to that time there was there was there was But I knew that my mother-pita was more than much more
Starting point is 00:32:43 ummied. Shai'at, I was there I'm not too much ummied. When there's so it's a lot of what's the effect.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Sometimes it's it's a lot of it's a much more it's a lot of it's a very interesting that when my father or mommy parent-teacher
Starting point is 00:33:02 association in my teachers to meeters to they always say, Jeshry in there's a potential but he
Starting point is 00:33:09 but he's a full use not using he's not using this is a and he they were
Starting point is 00:33:15 and they were more more of the and more umed but it's a special seek made
Starting point is 00:33:22 my very a very a very a very group of in India like students'
Starting point is 00:33:26 ranking had. He always first had and I never first not I never came
Starting point is 00:33:30 and I did that he know in these exams in a chance to for a good-in-a-up in the day,
Starting point is 00:33:36 I'd like eight-gontes part-ganted and I'd in a day- three-four-gonts he'd be a lot of a lot of
Starting point is 00:33:44 if you're if you're saying, I got a that was a good-of-a- but I'm a top-10
Starting point is 00:33:52 percent in I was in my parents to make sure I'm trying to I'm playing and I'm right-you-
Starting point is 00:33:57 look-sacted but that that time this day in eight-guntes part-and-a-mach-a-d-mah a way-a-a-hanna a lot of you know,
Starting point is 00:34:04 that's the time that was the time that was the time, not a lot of then you know, I'm going to yeah, I'm
Starting point is 00:34:10 there, elimination of I'm going to physics, I'm chemistry and I'm math, I'm not
Starting point is 00:34:15 , I'm , I'm , I'm not good, I'm not , and I'm thought, what's the thing is,
Starting point is 00:34:21 that's, that's, you can't give me, and computer science still, a quite a very rare
Starting point is 00:34:26 field, in my time In the way if that if that were the offer if I'd would have been I'd have my computer science
Starting point is 00:34:31 classes in math department to learn fortron C++ and assembly for I'd some classes
Starting point is 00:34:38 but electrical engineering was actually hardcore engineering and now it's again it's again
Starting point is 00:34:43 this modern world. I'd rather silicon and chip hardware design in so people
Starting point is 00:34:49 so I'm I'm I'm I'm very my father's who had IIT shrewed did the
Starting point is 00:34:55 who had did the science and real world of work that's that's the engineering
Starting point is 00:35:00 was that that was that was that's a much that's people who you're you're going to
Starting point is 00:35:06 you're you know, you know, I'm I think you you're you're not you're
Starting point is 00:35:12 so it's you're not you're you're doing you're you're you're doing it, you're
Starting point is 00:35:16 you're you're you're As a CEO to the same the same thing is. And I'm a very money
Starting point is 00:35:24 my mom's the same you're very you're very you're going to I'm going to I'm doing that's a so I'm
Starting point is 00:35:30 never a lot of many of the money. It's always it's very it's very that I my work
Starting point is 00:35:36 to my health and family to balance but I but I'm such I'm I need I need to
Starting point is 00:35:41 maybe I maybe I'm maybe I'm maybe you what are? What are you? What are you? Have you?
Starting point is 00:35:47 I was, I'd I'd probably I'd but I'd get into my hikes are I'm a lot of my dog is a lot of
Starting point is 00:35:58 music's really I'm maybe I'm not a plan but it's a but it's a lot but it's a shower in
Starting point is 00:36:05 the voice is kind of there's a other can't be a lot and now now today now today is
Starting point is 00:36:11 it's more be a more than than I'm I'm really I love I love I'm very
Starting point is 00:36:16 very much like to You know? What do you? I'm a lot of biographies I've got to. HALM I've got not not seen.
Starting point is 00:36:22 But when I'm, I'm the most long-distance flights in during he puttie. And, or I do some specification
Starting point is 00:36:29 print and publish and some technical document or I'm, or then I'm a little full-nauvel like I'm,
Starting point is 00:36:35 like John Gresham like, which in it's a big, it's a mind-in-mere that's,
Starting point is 00:36:40 that I'm to say, I'm more more than more than more, I'm a lot I love
Starting point is 00:36:44 I love I'm the first the part is the first thing is my family I'm the
Starting point is 00:36:51 I'm the my wife and my brother and they're much much they're because
Starting point is 00:36:58 that's not that not that they have not really I'm my alma mater
Starting point is 00:37:03 Santa Clara University from honorary doctorate degree but I made. But my
Starting point is 00:37:08 my beti did such meh made PhD and one did a veterinary science
Starting point is 00:37:12 in doctorate did. I'm I'm in their values for gerv and their compassion for the
Starting point is 00:37:16 and this thing that they have been a choice of you know, youba people who in your women who
Starting point is 00:37:22 do you know, I'm often I'm often that's the thing, because all the people are
Starting point is 00:37:27 many people that's very much much to get a lot of much, I'm I'm not a way
Starting point is 00:37:33 to make sure on, I'm every person has a talent has a which is
Starting point is 00:37:38 we're things in some things in some things in some things in but very bad. But if you
Starting point is 00:37:42 can't you can't which you're good, you're able to make a better and you're and you're
Starting point is 00:37:49 working and you're working and I think that everyone better being kind of it's always just pay for
Starting point is 00:37:56 not to be mappas. It's just the most manpacion should you you're you're suhhh
Starting point is 00:38:00 you. Jashri, so it like that that's like that you're all right you're all right
Starting point is 00:38:06 you're all used to puttation to use the world is all the world to do you know, you're doing to thank you
Starting point is 00:38:13 and for the other to you're very good good good news thank you Nikolai I'm
Starting point is 00:38:17 so much thank you thank you

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