In Search Of Excellence - Sean O’Malley: The Next Conor McGregor | E98

Episode Date: January 30, 2024

Welcome to Part Two of my interview with Sugar Sean O’Malley, the UFC bantamweight champion of the world, who everybody believes is the next Conor McGregor.Sean pulls back the curtain on his life inside and outside the cage, from balancing training for his next title defense with fatherhood to the brand deals making him a millionaire, plus his unconventional views on love and relationships. Tune in for more!Time stamps:00:38 Sean’s training regimentRed light, cold plunge, PMF machine, meditationEggs and oatmeal, Aero Press coffeeGoes to the gym to practice, nap, lunchStrength and conditioning training 07:01 Going out and drinkingDrinking is a big distractionHe goes out with the boysStops drinking and smoking 3 weeks before the match 09:24 Dealing with the painTries not to be hitIt’s bad for the brainCTE worriesEvery month he gets a concussion 12:19 Sean’s controversial love and sex lifeInjecting stem cells into the penisDidn’t feel much improvementHe has an open relationship with his girlfriend 20:10 How did a kid change his life?Always wanted to have kidsWould like to have moreThe feelings when he saw his daughter for the first timeLucky to be able to be with his daughter 28:05 Motivated by moneyLikes to be smart with his moneyLearning about investingWould like to be a billionairePaying taxes 36:24 The key ingredients for successSleep, diet, meditation, consistencyWork ethics and passionBuilding his brand on social mediaKeeping your brand clean 43:37 Giving back to the communityHelping his friends and familyPlanning to make a non-profit 45:42 Fill in the blanks for excellenceThe biggest lesson I've learned in my life isMeditationMy number one professional goal isGreatest of all timeAnd moreSponsors:Sandee | Bliss: BeachesWant to Connect? Reach out to us online!Website | Instagram | LinkedIn

I've always set the bar high. Like when people say how much money do you want? I want to be a billionaire. Like saying that now, I'm not even close. When I was 17 years old saying I want to be the UFC champ, one of the best in the world, it sounds silly from coming from a kid from Helena, Montana, who's never even had an MMA fight.

So now for me to say I want to be a billionaire someday, which I will be, is, you know, I got to put in the work and learn how to, you know, make my money make me money. Well, give us the details. I really don't think a lot of people know what your training regimen is. So give us the details. When you wake up, what do you do? What what do you eat how much do you train per day and when you say you have no distractions does that mean you're not watching tv what what aren't you doing um so i i've been i do a 10 minute meditation every morning so first thing i do wake up go let my

chickens out i'm gonna put my chickens in, it's the coyotes, go get them. Go out, let the chickens out. I have a recovery room, red light, cold plunge, PEMF machine, you know, foam roller, just to have a full room for recovery. Go in there, do 10 minute meditation on my red light. I do 12 minutes on my PEMF machine.

What is that? I think people don't know. Pulse electric magnetic field. I don't know the science, I don't know know i usually just listen to smarter people talk about shit and then i you know gary brekka he's he's mentioned the pemf machine but i try to stay up to date on you know what's good for you what's a good routine and this is i've had multiple different routines this is just the routine i'm doing right now 10 minutes on the red light 12 minutes on pemf machine and then i have my cold plug it's been fucking cold lately so i've been only doing like a minute in there because it's so hard for me to warm up that'll i for me before practice i like i'll do like a 30 minute warm-up

i want to be sweating before practice starts and sometimes if it's so cold out and i do two or three minutes in the cold plunge it literally will take me so long to warm up. So in the morning, I've just been doing one minute in the cold punch. And then I usually I'm making, you know, I have fresh eggs for my chickens, eggs and oatmeal in the morning. I make my own coffee, AeroPress. And it's delicious. I love making my own coffee. It's a nice little routine.

I play some jazz in the morning. Some just some good or sometimes I'll play some just depends what mood I've been playing. Just morning jazz, making my coffee, making my eggs, doing all that. I try not to drink coffee for 90 minutes until after I wake up. I think Andrew Huberman said that again. I don't know the science and shit. I just listen to smarter people and try to implement it in my life. I train at 10 o'clock. I train at 1030. I get there at 10. Yeah. So Iclock. I train at 10.30. I get there at 10. Yeah.

So I take. So I. Practice starts at 10.30. I get there at 10. So I leave my house at 9.40. You're practicing in a separate gym. Not in your house. Right now.

Yes. For. I'm just. I'm just going over like a basic Monday. Practice starts at 10.30. I get there at 10. Start warming up for about 30 minutes. Make sure my back's real warmed up.

My blood's flowing. I just. For injury prevention. I've had so many injuries and it's just like it's just you have to get a good warm-up that's one of the biggest things i've learned and one advice i would actually give is get a good warm-up um so warm-up 10 from 10 to 10 30 practice starts at 10 30 usually we do hard grappling on those days hit mitts whatever it is more of like an mma practice

you have a coach who you spar with uh i have tim who's my best friend coach um him and then we he owns the gym so we have we have a good we have a sick group of people like really high level people that come in and train with us monday morning and then I'll go home, chill, rest, recover. In camp, I'm a big napper. 20 minutes, play a 20-minute guided meditation on YouTube. Literally as simple as 20-minute nap meditation on YouTube. Play that, turn your phone on, do not disturb. I'll lay on my red mat.

I'll go in that room and I'll nap. I feel like I've gotten napping down. Like, got it down. Nap, wake up from that. Whether I fall asleep or not, I feel recharged, feel good. Have lunch have lunch do all that stuff and then i'll train again around four or five usually i have my strength and conditioning coach in when i'm in camp come out to me and we'll have my gym is getting set up right now because i just moved um but we'll do strength and conditioning at my house um each practice lasts around hour hour and a half and uh

do that and then at night do my do my i do two to three minutes in the cold plunge i get my hot tub stretch eat um eat a good dinner um and uh i'm in bed by 9 30 10 and yeah it's a pretty average day so what time exactly does it start and what time are you done with the actual everyday regimen? Yeah, I never wake up to an alarm rarely unless I have something I have to do. I wake up from 7 to 8 every morning just naturally. And then I'm in bed usually asleep by 10.30. I would say I'm out. It's pretty average. And that's another thing i'm just learning i listen to the matthew walker podcast with joe rogan i think it was like an old

podcast maybe 10 years old i remember listening to that tim told me to he's like bro careful if you listen to that it's gonna fuck with you like talking about just all the different benefits you get from sleeping and all the things you're missing out not sleeping good i listened to that podcast changed my life like my they say that one of the biggest things about sleeping is just going to bed and waking up around the same time every day like it's one of the biggest things and like i've been doing that for a long long long time i've been doing the cold plunge for probably five six seven years started learning how to meditate same time around there um so i just implementing little things throughout that i learned each fight camp

um it's just gotten me to pretty much where i am i feel like you mentioned what you eat's important diet are you do you eat well when you're not training and you can eat whatever you want right because you're just shedding and burning so many calories every day. I mean, everyone's different. For me, I feel like a lot of, I have to eat clean or cause inflammation. Then I go and get injured training. So for me, I have a nutritionist, Dan Garner. I've been working with him for probably five years or whatever it's been.

We do blood work every three know three four times a year well the blood work saliva stool hair samples just anything we can get data on that to see the insides of how my body works how what causes inflammation what i should be eating what's helping me recover what nutrients am i deficient in that's not helping me get to the next level next stage um so we're doing all that. He makes a meal plan. I have a meal prep company. And they make the food. I eat it.

So I try to take as much stress off of myself as I can as far as, like, I'm not having to make meals. I'm not having to think about what should I eat. All that's taken care of. So you like to have fun. You're going out at night so is drinking part of the program or can you drink alcohol and go out and party and do that stuff you got to be careful with that that is a big distraction i'm not a very big drinker um but i do like to you know go out with the boys and have a good time slam some happy dads um but yeah i i definitely don't

have uh i've known i know a lot of people you know like get get some money make some money get a free bottle at the club you know they're there every weekend i don't i don't really have an issue with that especially knowing i have like a big fight coming up i i love having a fight coming up it helps me it's way easier to stay dialed it's way easier to stay focuseded. It's way easier to stay focused. So, but yeah, I definitely enjoy going out with the boys. And that's a cool part of the diet, but you're not doing any of that pre-fight, right? How far in advance of fight is it no drinking, no smoking, no nothing?

Yeah, typically I would say, well, smoking I quit about three weeks out. I use a vaporizerizer a nice quality vaporizer with a quality marijuana not some shit weed that's full of pesticides and grown with you know just as fast as possible to get it out to as many people as possible good organic quality marijuana with a quality vaporizer is the best way the healthiest way for me to smoke and i really feel like that's an issue but i quit that about three weeks out drinking usuallyinking, usually about 12 weeks out. I am going out tonight with the boys. UFC 296. It's a big night.

I'm going to be at Zouk. We're coming with you. Are you? Yeah. Okay. I mean, you know, everyone I'm saying is coming. Yeah, yeah. Zouk, I got you.

Yeah, it should be a good time. I have an appearance there, so it'll be fun. Go get that out of my system. Last one out before the fight. But, yeah, 12 weeks dialed in. drinking no partying just just focused and uh gotta get get it get i've been pretty dialed right now i've been pretty focused right now with my training to where i don't feel like if i felt like i'm like man i really shouldn't shouldn't do this i wouldn't do it but i feel like i'm in such a good spot right now i'm healthy i've been training hard i've been eating good my weight's where it needs to be mentally i'm good that i can go out and have a good night with the boys like friday night last night we're in vegas i could go

out and get a ball do whatever we didn't we stayed in we uh you know got got some good sleep had a busy day today so we're gonna enjoy it uh tonight i think a lot of fans like me they see people get hit in the face whatever they start bleeding I mean it's it's brutal how do you deal with the pain of getting hit and what does that feel like I mean it's gotta hurt like a bitch I don't even like I don't even like watching people get knocked out like close up and like punched and hit I watch it I'm like how do they do that I was like oh shit that's what I do but for me it's like I just try not to get hit I watch it I'm like how do they do that I was like oh shit that's what I do but for me it's like I just try not to get hit I don't want to get hit I prefer not getting hit um which I feel like helps you know partially that's like probably why I'm so good I feel like but also I know I can take

a shot and I know I'm not gonna break I have that dog in me to where it's like I'm not going to get hit and kind of fold over you know my fight with Peter Yanni cracked me hard a couple times you know and I definitely didn't feel like quitting mentally there wasn't like oh well we could get a way out right now like a lot of fighters deal with that um so when I said I don't like getting hits because I'm very conscious of how bad that is for your brain. Like getting hit and getting concussions over and over and over is not good for you. Like it's just horrible for you. So I'm trying not to get hit. I do my best not to get hit. But it happens, obviously.

I just deal with it when it happens and, you know, try to hit them harder and not get hit. Do you worry about CTE? And there's a lot of studies right now, and it really bucks people up forever, and it's a horrible disease. Yeah, that's terrifying. Do you worry about it? Yeah, definitely. I quit sparring for the most part.

From 16 to probably 23, 24, I was sparring Wednesday, Saturday, sparring twice a week. Constantly having concussions. Every month I was getting concussed and it's scary to think back on like how did those years affect me maybe not right now but in five years I sparred pretty hard leading up so going in this next fight I sparred a few times already and last Wednesday no Thursday a couple days ago it's like I cracked a few times

and yeah you think about it's like man that's definitely not couple days ago, it's like I cracked a few times. And yeah, you think about it, it's like, man, that's definitely not good for you. But it's like, I'm in it right now. It's like, I don't, I made a commitment to not only myself, but Hunter and Dana. Like I told them, I want to be the biggest star in the UFC. I want to be the best in the world. That's just kind of where I'm at right now.

It's like, I'm going to do everything I can to do that. You only live once and I got to, that's where I'm at right now. It's like I'm going to do everything I can to do that. You only live once and I got to. That's where I'm at right now. Things can change, you know. So I definitely spar way less than most people. Like I have to spar in camp though. When I have a fight come on, you have to get that feeling or I do. But outside of camp, I won't spar at spar at all zero i won't get hit once like my last fight against aljo zero brain damage

it didn't hit me maybe hit me once or a little bit but didn't get any any brain damage fight before that with peter yon definitely probably some brain damage let's talk about one of the most pleasurable activities in the world some people people think it's the most. Sex. Oh, God. So Brandy Love was on my show. And one of the biggest porn stars in the world. And it's interesting because people criticize her even though most people watch porn. Dr. Mike Roizen, the chief wellness doctor at the Cleveland Clinic, was on my show. And there are studies that actually show that the more sex you have, the longer and healthier life that you're going to live. You've talked about injecting stem cells into your penis

and let's talk about what that does. Did it work and has it led to more success in the bedroom? Is it all that's cracked up to be? You know what i i didn't i wasn't i didn't get i wasn't there to get stem cells for that reason i just got offered it and i was like you know what sure fuck it um i don't know if it's like maybe if there's something going on and then you get them and then it works again but i didn't like my shit working good right now so i didn't really feel like it was working better it just kind of felt the same so maybe if you have an issue and then you get them and then it makes it better but But when it's good and you get them, I didn't really feel anything extra. It's supposed to improve.

When I did some research on this, I never heard of such a thing. I guess it improves your girth. Does it improve girth and length? Girth and orgasm, I heard. Girth and orgasm. Unfortunately, it didn't get the extra girth that I was looking for. But you know what? We're still working with what we got.

So I'm not too upset about it. So I think a lot of people don't know exactly what this is it's not a sex show but I think if you could explain how stem cells get injected into your penis I think that's something that people would be very interested in knowing about yeah the lady doctor well or male doctor I think you can you know choose i choose to have a girl doctor uh yeah they just grab it and hit it in the shaft and uh do they numb it before or it's gotta hurt that's not too bad tim tim my coach did we were because we were in uh in mexico and they offered it and i'm like fuck if you yeah should we do it should we do it so he did it first and he elbowed the guy doing it so he got like halfway in elbowed the guy and then had to redo it and his shit was bruised he said for a couple days weeks or whatever

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her for probably almost 10 years now um she she prefers me not to talk about it because she's very very quiet very not social media not like in it so when i started bringing it up first because i thought i've always i always think it's such an interesting conversation because i've seen so many couples like my bro he's cheating on you and he's just telling you he's not and everyone's like that's okay but i bring i'm like hey i'd like to hook up with chicks like and i'm the bad guy for being honest but every guy's cheating on the girl and everyone is just like that's just what society guy for being honest but every guy's cheating on the girl and everyone is just like that's just what society is for the most part a lot of girls are just

my man wouldn't do that it's like he definitely is for the most part like that's just the reality of it and i was just always very honest with danny and like hey like this was before i made money before i was popular no one knew me i was like hey this is how I am I remember dating two chicks in high school like I just always liked liking girls and talking to girls and doing all that so I was always very honest with Danny about that and uh you know it's not it's not just fucking easy but I don't think any relationship is so we've had our ups and downs with it like she's had you know I put her through a lot but i've always always very honest with her as far as like hey this is just who i am and uh yeah definitely a lot of hate comes from that which again it's just other insecure people like how could you do that it's like this this is what it is you're famous yeah you're rich yeah you get attention wherever you go

yeah i'm sure girls are throwing themselves at you not enough where does where does it happen i mean i know at basketball games sometimes i know a lot of my friends you know the girls hang out when you walk out are they are you meeting them when you're at sprouts are you doing them when you're at sprouts are you doing it when you're at nightclubs or are you going to parties what's happening there um just kind of it's not even like people think it's not like i'm hooking up with a new girl every weekend it's just like having that freedom or that off like that i think it just comes down to freedom and um yeah i i don't want to say too much too because danny has asked me she's like i just don't

really like when you talk about it but it's yeah i mean everyone has their own lane i think for most people it's either you're monogamous or you're not dating like it's that's the option and uh yeah i don't know right now it's uh maybe someday i would be like all right i can i can shut that off but i got fucking testosterone running through me i'm fucking we're we're born to recreate reproduce this is like it's a deep um it's just that's in us all it's a it's in every guy we like chicks maybe some like chicks more than others um i just love to like i like chicks like hanging out like i like talking like rizzing them off but like chit chatting with them but uh yeah i can already see all the comments in here you're i it's funny because it's always just guys insecure guys that are a comment and like

you're a piece of shit like well you're cheating on your girl and or you can't get girls a lot of guys a lot of ugly motherfuckers are like i would never do that so that's because you get no girls you can't even you if you get one you're gonna be loyal to her because that's the only one you're ever gonna get no other girls are gonna ask to hang out with you so it's easy for you to be loyal or sometimes like i'm 29 right now i'm like maybe i'm just not wise enough maybe it's a mental weakness maybe i just need to be able to shut that off i don't know i'm just going through life figuring it out i don't have the answers i could be wrong like be right i don't know i don't even know if there's a wrong or right as long as I think,

as long as I'm a good person, taking care of people I love and, you know, I think it comes out as just being a good person. Someone told me before I had kids that you really find out the meaning of life once you have kids. You had a three-year-old. I also have a three-year-old. I've got a seven-year-old, 19-year seven-year-old 19-year-old and two 21 year olds oh wow and it's it's the best thing on earth yeah how did having your three-year-old Danny change your life and are you gonna have more kids yeah having a three-year that's been the best thing Elena's like my little princess and it's it's just crazy like even now I'm gonna be gone for like three days and when I get back I'm like what she's gonna just seem like she grew

so much but yeah that I've always wanted kids i remember wanting kids when i was like in middle school thinking i remember breaking up with a girl i think i was like in eighth grade because she didn't want kids like i was like i can't be with you i want i wanted to have kids from an early age not in eighth grade i didn't want to have kids in eighth grade but i wanted to have kids someday and she did it so i've always wanted kids i knew that for whatever reason i wanted to be a dad i enjoy it i love it um will i have more possibly danny you know the one baby mama right now she doesn't really want to um you know she doesn't she never really wanted to in the first place she's a great mom like i'm so glad it was her and not no one else because

she just does such a good job learning and taking initiative of like okay what do i need to do to become you know a great mom and a big thing for me was like i want my baby to be breastfed like that's so it was a huge thing for me that's so super important i want them to get that nutrients and and be taken care of that way and danny did a good job i think elena was like two a little over two and elena kind of stopped started weaning off of it but yeah i definitely i go back and forth i'm like elena's perfect one and we could be one and done but i'm also like i kind of want to tribe just depends where i'm at what headspace i'm in um sometimes i want to have like i go back and forth like i want to have one then i'm like i want to have 10 i want to have a bunch i think you know finding once you become a certain level of financial freedom to where you can have

multiple kids it makes it's different like some people that are like get barely getting by like no i don't really want kids like this is enough for me right now i can you know afford to have that so we'll see we'll see how it plays out um but yeah elaine has been nothing it's been amazing obviously there's times where it's not and they have their little tantrums but the the times they're not doing that makeup are way better you'll see when the kids get older and you do fun things for your kids you have these special moments uh it's it's just great here with my son charlie here for the fight stoked to see you yeah super super happy to be here so um going back to to the kid thing um

what was it like when your daughter was born holding her for the first time of your life what was the exact feeling when she came out and you held her for the first time of your life what was the exact feeling when she came out and you held her for the first time yeah it was a cool experience it's so weird because you can kind of like remember it vividly but it's also like i think it's like 3 a.m we were there for so long we're sleep deprived the contractions and like it's just like a crazy moment but we didn't find out if she was a boy or girl like we kept that a surprise i thought that was really really really cool and fun and it was a great surprise. And in my head, 100%, I was like, it's a boy.

I would have bet money on it. I would have bet my life on it. I was like, it's a boy. It's going to be a boy. And so, yeah, when she came out, I remember she had to have, we were going to do it naturally. Then she had to do the C-section. And I remember them cutting it. And I looked and I shouldn't have.

I was like, holy fuck, she's in half. Like, what the fuck? And they were pulling her out no yeah i remember like that pretty vividly but holding her for the first time just so tiny it was it was so weird i remember just like yeah i don't i don't know it's a hard to explain i mean like i said and you're sleep deprived been up for however many hours then it's like okay now we have to go to a c c section so that's kind of like you know a lot going on you know it's it was a feeling you're on drugs almost but yeah that was a cool experience and healthy baby and that's all

you you want at that time just get her out tell tell me she's healthy and then yeah that's good. One of the best things I can tell you and advice I have as a dad is take your daughter on a one-on-one trip every single year because we're all busy, you're very successful, you got a lot going on, I've done okay and as you have more and more kids, I got five, take it away every single year. It's the best thing you can ever do.

Tuning everything out as your kids get older putting out the cell phones and i i highly highly recommend that you do that i've told my friends this and it's total life changer of the relationship with your kids definitely you know i definitely will appreciate that advice i feel very lucky for because a lot of people like oh think i'm so busy and i and i am busy I do a lot of different things but for the most part like I basically gave you a rundown through my day I train in the morning train it in the afternoon afternoon I'm training at my house I'm home most of the day um I feel very lucky for how much I get to be with Elena like and now she's three so she wants to go to

go to jujitsu go to the gym with me so she'll go run around while I'm training like I'm feel very lucky how much I'm able to be with her um but yeah no i appreciate that i definitely i i think that would be fun taking her on a little trip and it's it's nice too when danny's not around it's just me and her because when danny's around it's like sometimes like she wants mommy more but like mommy's gone it's like it's just me and her she wants daddy she falls down she wants daddy she wants she's hungry she wants that you know so like it is nice when it's just me and elena um it is very it's different than when it's like all three of us yeah same thing in my house i mean kids want their mom especially when they're young and when they're not there it's fun putting their bedtime yeah you know yeah i want mommy and then you snuggle with dad. It's a great thing.

Are you going to drive her to school every day and pick her up every day? I mean, she just turned three. So what school? Kindergarten, like five? Five, six. We'll see what the plan is. We'll see where I'm living. We'll see what schools are around.

Yeah, we'll see. I've got a couple of years to kind of figure that out but i mean that would be cute sometimes school is kind of scary sometimes too it's like you just never know especially nowadays what they're teaching the school shootings like there's just it's kind of terrifying thinking about dropping elaine off at school with people i don't know like right now danny's mom's our full-time nanny so it's like if she's not with me or she's not with danny she's with danny's mom she's not danny's mom she's my mom um so right now it's like it's very comforting knowing she's with people that are in our family like dropping off at school kind of seems freaky for now a lot of famous kids too they eat a lot of shit right i mean they criticize their dads or if you're a pro football

player i mean i know a few and they've got kids and they lose they they take a lot of are you worried about that at all no not really i think uh yeah i don't know i think you know just live by example i feel like you know elena sees me stretching, doing my red light, getting in the cold punch, not wanting to. Come on, Daddy, you can do it. Like doing these, you know, just doing healthy habits, I think is going to create a good person, and she's going to be. It's crazy because she could turn out however. You could raise, you know, a kid really good,

and they could turn out however they turn out. But for the most part, I think if we just give her the right tools and, you know, let's go with the flow let's go back to money you're motivated by money the young age and i do a ton of coaching where i've coached hundreds of people throughout the years and i always ask them when they're younger rank what is most important to you and money is always number one right i think that changes as changes as you get in your later 20s, 30s. I think it's bad advice. I think you should pursue your passion first.

But you were motivated by money. What's your advice to people who are motivated by money first and foremost as their number one goal in their professional life? It's funny. The more money I make make the more money i've made the more money i've or the more i've realized like i haven't made enough money in my head enough money um so i don't know i feel like i don't really feel like i have advice to give yet i don't really feel like i'm in a position yet to be like i like i've figured anything out i just thought i've always been pretty good with money i've

never really spent it carelessly ish did fly here on a jet you know those aren't very cheap so sometimes i do stupid shit like i would say stupid but stuff like that saw the instagram you look like you're having a good time on the jet we're going to vegas for the press conference you know cheeto flew here on southwest so it's just like i'm one up and i just thought did he fly first class no hell no there was no first class on the southwest is there i mean he definitely even if he didn't fly southwest i would guarantee you didn't fly first class um but but for the most part i feel like just being smart with your money is like i i know I have some buddies that are just so stupid with their money they'll have a hundred dollars in their bank account and they'll just go and get a Starbucks

coffee and you know go grab a couple snacks I'm like bro you don't have what are you doing like you don't have you shouldn't be doing that so I feel like I was just lucky for my mom she was on the extreme end of to where it's like i feel like a disease to where it's like scary like on money to where i feel like i was able to balance that out and be smart with money but just yeah save it and and i'm trying to learn more on on the investment side of stuff like i bought the houses and stuff but those houses aren't gonna make me 100 million dollars like those houses will be good good to store the money or whatever keep the money in a good spot but i'm learning and wanting to learn more about how to how to invest where to invest getting equity and brand because right now

i have a lot of brand deals i have some equity deals um but but just learning all about that i'm lucky emron who you just who you met i'm grateful too yeah thank you emeron you know you're the man appreciate you yeah so he's been he's been teaching me a lot too he's very smart and uh you know i look up to him he's a huge mentor to me so been learning a lot from him but i would definitely for me i wanted to be are you looking for your next great gift to surprise a friend colleague or loved one bliss one? Bliss Beaches makes the perfect gift. This best-selling bright and beautiful coffee table book by Randall Kaplan features stunning drone photography from exotic beach locations around the world.

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Like, saying that now, I'm not even close. It sounds silly. When I was 17 years old, saying I want to be the UFC champ, one of the best in the world, it sounds silly. Coming from a kid from Helena, Montana, who's never even had an MMA fight. So now for me to say I want to be a billionaire someday, which I will be, is, you know, I got to put in the work

and learn how to, you know, make my money make me money. What's that about? I mean, why a billion dollars? What does it represent to you is it a scorecard or is it just personal goal that i i don't know that's a good it's just like crazy number like it's just like just out i mean one of the most successful human beings in the world is that the measurement uh financialancially successful people in the world? Sometimes I don't really know why I want things.

Like, I just, sometimes I'm like, well, if I'm a billionaire, I got a lot of kids. I'm going to do a lot of sweet stuff. But, uh. You can get a lot of kids now. Yeah, I could. But I feel like I just, I don't know. My next goal is a hundred billion. I want to be a, I want to, you know, get to a hundred million. Well, little baby said, I can't chill yet.

I ain't made a hundred million yet. Like I want to, I want to make a hundred million. Then we'll get, we'll get there. But for me, that's just, I got to keep winning fights because the more fights I win, the more opportunities I have, the more, you know, the more equity I can get in the businesses to where, so, you know, I might not have to pay money to get into equity. I might not have to pay money to get equity into these businesses. I could just get equity by promoting these businesses through the brand, Suga.

So I think I just go out there and keep knocking people out for the next five, six, seven years. It's very realistic for me. So you want to make $100 million? Because at the end of that, if you pay taxes, it's $50 million. Or do you want to make $200 million to get $100 end of that if you pay taxes it's 50 million or do you want to make 200 million to get 100 in the account yeah taxes um i'm glad you know what one thing is i'm glad i i did stay on top of taxes since i started making money shout out my mom because a lot of fighters you know you make a couple hundred thousand dollars and then you spend

you know 180 000 and then at the end of the year, you owe, you know, $80,000. You're like, I only have $20,000. How do I owe $80,000? Like, I've never been in that position. I've always been able to pay my taxes. And it always sucks, but I've always been able to do that, which I've been very grateful for my mom to kind of help me with all that. But yeah, so yeah, $200 million is the answer.

Mike Tyson was on my show around eight months ago. Phenomenal guy. For those of you who have not listened to it or watched it, please do. Fascinating man. Great conversation. He says he's gone bankrupt more times than he can count. He made $400 million in his career, which time value of money today is $700 million. And when I told him today it's $700 million, they went kind of surprised.

But I think it's really, really great that you have a good head on your shoulders. You have great managers. You got your mom. What was it like when you made your first million dollars? And what was the big purchase, the first big purchase that you made? Probably like the first million in a year. Well, your first million total. I mean, my goal was to be a millionaire

by the time I'm 30 years old. And I wasn't thinking, you know, pre-tax or post-tax. And as I got older, I started like, well, there's a big difference there. Yeah. I think for me, like I said, I have six houses. So I was always kind of like buying, I like buying houses, like putting a couple hundred thousand dollars a house, paying off a house, buying another house.

Um, I, I'm not a huge car guy. I did have to get a Lamborghini. I don't, like two or three years ago. You had to? I had to. Um, yeah, I had no choice. Went with my son, uh, yesterday out to the racetrack. He drove the Ferrari Evo. Which is sitting there. I mean, I got in that thing. I was so claustrophobic. I got the hell

out of there. So I drove the Lambo. Which one I drive? STO. STO. I think it drives smooth. Yeah. They're a pain in the ass though because one thing goes wrong and then it's like $12,000 to fix it. And it's like another thing. They're a pain in the ass, but one thing goes wrong and it's like 12 000 to fix it and it's like another thing they're a pain in the ass but okay so you bought the lambo yeah i'd say lambo how what color watches i i bought a red one but i have it wrapped pink right now okay it's like a fucking just pink lambo i don't know why i always wanted one i'm rewrapping it soon because every

time i have a fight coming up i i do a merch drop like a fight kit drop with certain colors okay and so and i do a jersey so i do limited edition jerseys um and then uh i kind of match my whether it's my cars definitely the merch but i'm wrapping my cars the same kind of uh concept colors of that but i'm re-wrapping it soon yeah i'd say you know probably some jewelry you got a sick watch on right now yeah i i like diamonds you know i think i never really was like a watch guy or a jewelry guy but i think no one is if you don't have money right like and when i didn't have any money i'm like well i'm not on the watch i couldn't fucking afford one so that makes sense but the more you know you make money and then you see the big numbers in your bank account and you have a good amount of savings you have a good amount in the investment so you're like oh i could i could spoil myself a little bit buy a little something nice

but you know uh yeah so i'd say jewelry maybe you know some cars house stuff like that so my show is designed to inspire motivate people to be the best that they can be. What are the ingredients of success, your top five? Sleep, diet, some form of meditation. Obviously, consistency and whatever it is. I think that's like the one that always gets brought up is consistency and it's so important you just gotta so you gotta be consistent and it's not letting people not not not caring what people think i'd say saying no and not caring what people think are kind of tied into one but yeah you just can't care what people think you're gonna read the comments and let them affect you like that's just that comes down to i mean we're all wired that way but it's a mental weakness i'd say it's just like

you really care what what someone thinks but that comes down to be like a good person like if it affects you if what their comment affects you it's probably because it's true so as long as you're being a good person the comments shouldn't affect you so let's say those where does work ethic passion and optimism rank in elements of success worth that work ethic is number one you got you have to put in the work if you're not going to put in the work you can't expect to you know blow up on youtube or you know get signed to ufc or win big fights like you got to put in the work um passion yeah i mean sometimes i'm not passionate about fighting i don't want to get up and train like i'm seven weeks into fight camp i'm sore i'm exhausted i'm i don't want to get i don't want to train so sometimes you're not like passionate about yeah so you need to go up and train that

you just got to fucking do it so you're lucky if you have the passion. Like my passion is to be the best in the world. But some mornings I wake up and I don't want to be. That comes back to work ethic though. It's like you just got to get up, do it. But being able to initially that passion to want to be the best, want to be something is huge. And then what did you say, optimism?

Yeah. Good attitude. Good attitude. Yeah, optimistic. I i mean if you're just a i i feel like i think i'm pretty optimistic i thought it would suck to just be naturally pessimistic and just kind of always in that mindset maybe yeah i don't know but it's i feel like it'd be a lot easier being optimistic going through life. Yeah.

But work ethic and passion are two things that it's just like, got to have it to be successful. How much are you focusing on your social media right now? You have huge followings. Do you really consider that an ingredient of your financial success? And do you have a full-time team devoted to working on your social? Yeah. Social media is like, I made twice as much money this year your social yeah social media is like i made i made twice as much money this year on from brand deal social media than i made from fighting so i've

made you know literally probably over twice as much money this year on from social media so it's massive when it comes to financial and it's like i'm building something bigger so you know i keep building this for the next five six seven years sugar brand, the sugar brand's gonna be huge, gonna be massive, especially if they go out and knock people out. So yeah, I do a lot of my social media. I do pretty much all of my own social media. I recently, Blake, my assistant, he's been Snapchatting for me. But for the most part, yeah,

I do most of my social media. Emron helps me really like dial in the deliverables, what I have to do for each company, each sponsor, each brand. But yeah, YouTube, Snapchat, Facebook, Instagram. If you're not on those, try it. And I think being funny, I think humor is like the best way to do that.

Humor and knowledge, like information. But I try to kind of focus on those funny people want to see if you can get a good giggle out of someone like you're going to be able to get them back to your page uh so i kind of try to focus on humor so we talk about brand deals what exactly are we talking about online um well they have to make sense for your brand, right? You got to... What does it mean though? So someone comes to you and they do what?

They say, I'm going to pay you to promote my brand? Yeah, pretty much. I mean, yeah, it's pretty much as simple as that. There's a lot of obviously contract and lawyers and like a lot more into it. But yeah, that's basically it. For me, I have to like the brand. We'll use Sanibel, for example sannibal's

emron's company ceo of that and uh their uh mma gear kickboxing gear jujitsu gear combat sports gear so i met emron in 2017 i think right before the contender series right after somewhere around there got on a call and he's like yeah yeah, basically that, like what deliverables for, you know, pay and you just find out what makes sense and what's fair and you go from there. But yeah, it has to make sense with the branding. There's, when we look at finding athletes or celebrities as spokespeople for our companies and our venture capital portfolio, one of the things that we look at is newspaper risk, right? A lot of people will do something stupid, they'll get in a fight, they'll hit somebody.

And then once they do that, and it happens with a lot of fighters, by the way, probably more than in different sports, you've obviously need to be extremely careful, right? You guys, when you're a fighter and you're the champ, I mean, Mike Tyson was on a JetBlue flight. And some guy came up to him and, you know, taunting him. And do you get that? And then is it consciously you got to keep your brand clean and stay out of trouble?

The thing about UFC and Dana that's so cool is that we don't have to be as careful as for that, for like UFC, like you heard Sean Strickland at the press conference the other day, dropping F bombs. Yeah. That dude's, he's probably not going to get any repercussion or any backlash from the UFC. Maybe a little bit like,

Hey, do we watch him out a little bit? But he's all right. You go on, you're an NFL NBA. You say that you're gone. You're done. One and done.

One and done. But Sean Strickland also doesn't have any sponsors. So he doesn't really have to worry about it. Cause he's not, he's not making money like that. He's not getting paid any sponsors. So he doesn't really have to worry about it because he's not making money like that. He's not getting paid from the sponsors. So he doesn't have to worry about that. So we talk a lot about when we all get successful, we get more and more successful typically,

and they have more and more responsibilities. It happens when you have kids, you have a business, it grows a business, more people you're managing. Let's talk about work-life balance. So what is your work-life balance so what is your work-life balance have you thought about it long term and your own personal happiness going forward yeah i think recently i'll bring up blake again as an assistant like i recently like my mom takes care of most of the stuff that i you know don't want to do or that i don't have time to do

she takes care of a ton of that but even even then, it's like I still have stuff, emails, reminders. You got to be here, got to be there. And so there's a lot that goes on when, especially in camp, like I don't, all that extra energy to think about that stuff could go into me recovering, could go into my next training session.

So yeah, work-life balance is something I think about a lot and need to, it's a huge role and I can't take on too much, especially when I'm in camp, when I got to be dialed in. So something I've definitely thought about a lot. When you're successful and rich, I think we have a responsibility to give back. Yeah. I think it's very important to give back to our community. Yeah. What are you doing to give back and what are your goals there in terms of giving back and influencing the lives of people? Well, I just gave back plenty to taxes. Right now, I'm helping and making sure my family, friends are taken care of. Not too much to where

it's like enabling them, like I said, but really just giving back to my family and making sure we're all good and everything that needs to be done is done there um yeah as far as you know charities and stuff like that i still my first job was uh one of my first jobs like full-time jobs i worked at this group home with these mentally uh disabled they were like 18 to 65 years old there's eight of them and that was like one of my most rewarding jobs it was fun I really really enjoyed that and that's something I still want to get back into and figure out how to get on a schedule and give back to that community because I always enjoyed you know doing that kind of work so that's something i still need to i talked to ufc and they're helping you or they need that they're going to help me make a ll or a charity there's non-profit 501c3 yeah that yeah yeah that which there's a lot more that goes into that than you

need even a ton yeah so i guess that's like a lot of paperwork it needs to be sat down and done but i have we have had discussions about that do you have any grandiose goals on the what's philanthropy uh bigger bigger goals i mean you want to be a billionaire financially But we have had discussions about that. Do you have any grandiose goals on the philanthropy? Bigger goals? I mean, you want to be a billionaire financially. Do you have a similar goal in terms of giving back to the community, maybe influencing the lives of a billion people around the world? Yeah, I feel like, I mean, even watching like, you know, Mr. Beast?

Yeah. Like watching his video, like him doing the well stuff. I legit teared up. I was like, that's so cool like doing something like that would be is awesome like i would love to do stuff like that and give back in that way because that touches people like that made me tear up watching that video like damn i was really cool so definitely would love to give back like that yeah so before i conclude my podcast i always conclude with a game called fill in the blank to excellence are you ready to play let's do it the biggest lesson i've learned in my life is uh biggest lesson is this like rapid or yeah it's gonna be rapid fire here uh i'd say

meditation my number one professional goal is greatest of all time the person i'm most interested in fighting is cheeto or gervonta dav. That's number two? Both number one. Or Ilya Teporya. Those three. Okay, those three. My biggest regret in life is? Well, I feel like I'm in a good spot right now. So I'd say nothing yet.

My number one personal goal is? Personal goal is? Personal goal is, it's always less phone time. It's always that. It's just that was that right now. You spend a lot of time on your phone? I'd say, I mean, what's average nowadays? I feel like everyone's phone time is so crazy,

but yeah, I've spent too much. Texting, social media? You know, bouncing apps on snapchat upload and then you're on instagram and you're watching a youtube video and then you're on twitter and then you're you know just bouncing around apps the one thing I've dreamt about doing in a long time but haven't is long time what did you say the one thing I've dreamed about doing for a long time but haven't is um you're checking off right now you gotta say it i can see you i can see you going through the mental checklist no i'm not gonna say that one come on let it let it loose no i can't i can't

why why can't you because it's too outrageous oh yeah you're you're you're like the kid who says hey i got something to tell you but i can't really tell you you gotta let it loose yeah no i won't say uh it's not bad it's just funny so hey people are funny all right i'll say it one of my buddies texted me he said we're having a hooker party tonight i think he's kidding though so that was funny but we'll just go with that. Which I'm not a fan of. I would rather be able to RZA girl up and talk to her and her being to me. If you could meet one person in the world, who would it be?

Meet one person? I don't really feel like I don't, I don't really feel like I might meet that person. I do think it'd be cool to meet and have a conversation with Mike Tyson, like off camera, not necessarily just doing a podcast, but just like talk to Mike Tyson being a very interesting person for, I feel like, you know, I've had people in contact with him and I've supposed to go on his podcast and do some stuff, but, uh, the times haven't worked out um but mike would be a interesting character if you were president

of the united states what are the first three things that you would do i don't know shit about any of that i don't know i'm so far out of the loop on what needs to be done. I don't even know. Pick one. Where I'd go. Pick one. You're sitting in the Oval Office, you've seen the photos, you're sitting there at this desk.

Yeah, what do you do? Asian massages are legal. That's my number one. I had a- I was getting tackled out of there. I had a... That was a good check out of that. I don't know. I feel like I'm so far out of the loop when it comes to politics and it's just, it's way better that way. I feel like for me right now, I don't know enough about it to really have an opinion about it to where I feel like I, what I say should influence anyone. No, but you have a lot of power

and you have a pulpit to influence so many people. But I need to be educated on what I'm influencing people. I'm not. I don't know anything about... I know Biden looks like he's about to fall over. Trump makes me laugh. Those are about the only two things I know about politics. I had Benjamin Netanyahu for dinner at my house

around 15 years ago. I was very nervous, obviously. Prime Minister of Israel. And so he's, I mean, I was very nervous about the whole thing. And we had, this was a bunch of tech people from California. So we had three tables of 10. And I'm the host. And he's sitting next to me with his wife, Sarah.

And I'm like, what's the first thing I'm going to say to him? And I thought about it and I said, you get there, you win. You're sitting down at your desk for the very first time. I said, how the hell do you know what to do? Yeah, for real.

What did he say? You spend several months in advance, people telling you. I said, because where are all the nukes? I said, where are all the secrets? Where are all the Mossad guys, the agents? And he said, it takes, I think you have three or four months once you win before you come prime minister.

And so when you think about it, I said, gosh, that's insane. I don't get how someone just does that or wants to do that. It seems very stressful. If you could go back in time, what's the one thing you would tell your 21-year-old self? 21-year-old self? I feel like when I was 21, I feel like that's when I really started kind of wanting to learn how to eat healthy,

getting into cold punch, getting into meditation, getting into learning how to live healthier. So I feel like that was a good time for me. I'd probably, you know, just say, just continue on that path and do what you're doing because you know, we're in a good spot right now at 29. The one question you wish I had asked you, but didn't is? Um, I didn't, well,

see, you got me thinking on a lot of these. I didn't really think about that at all. There wasn't really a question where I was like, well, I hope he asks me about that. I thought, I thought what you asked me was great. And I thought we had a great conversation. So I think it was, what was said was perfect. I love it.

You have any questions? My son Charlie's. I love it. You have any questions? My son Charlie's here. Huge fan. You have any questions you want to ask Sean? I'm just, I was great. Hell yeah. Well, I really appreciate you being here, Sean. I'm a huge fan.

My son's a huge fan. You've had an amazing career. I'm super excited to watch you fight. I'm super excited to get to know you better. And I'm here to help you with whatever I can. And you gonna be at zoop tonight i'm gonna be at zoop tonight hell yeah yeah we're gonna hang we'll hang out you're gonna have a few drinks tonight oh yeah i'm gonna have a couple happy dads and get in the you know you gotta pop by we're gonna we're gonna have a few drinks too i think are you okay it's gonna be it's gonna be a fun show but we off

probably about 12 12 12.30. We'll be rolling in there too. All right, this was awesome, man. I appreciate you. Thank you so much.