Inside Conan: An Important Hollywood Podcast - Courtney Thorne-Smith Revisits Legendary Norm Macdonald Interview

Episode Date: December 10, 2021

Courtney Thorne-Smith joins writers Mike Sweeney and Jessie Gaskell to discuss her legendary Late Night appearance with Norm Macdonald, why she loved appearing on Conan’s show, the secrets of the pre-interview process, her time on Melrose Place, and her snoring pug. Got a question for Inside Conan? Call our voicemail: [phone] and e-mail us at [e-mail]

And now, it's time for Inside Conan, an important Hollywood podcast. Hello and welcome back to a brand new episode of Inside Conan, an important Hollywood podcast. It is brand new. I'm Mike Sweeney, not brand new. The opposite of whatever brand new is. That's me. I'm gently warmed up leftovers. Oh, Jesse. Jesse Gaskell. That's not true at all. You're piping fresh, hot out of the oven. Hello.

Hello. I hope you had a nice week. What you been up to sure yeah yeah okay i had a week ah there you go seven days check check check check check check check um yeah what have you been up to i thought i i was like oh what did i do this week and i was like absolutely nothing and then i realized no i've been trying to buy a car which is which is worse than than doing nothing yeah you mentioned you got t-boned yeah i got totaled yeah they totaled it out and and which sounds a lot more delicious than it is i'm assuming there's this car dealership nearby and i've been oh did they get your phone number and now they call you all the time? I wish they'd call me.

I just want to buy a car. And they're like, well, it's like a shell game. They're like, well, we don't have them here, but we can get them here if you're going to buy one. And yeah, there are many, many new games. I haven't bought a car in a while, so I'm fascinated by all the latest shenanigans. Well, I think it's a real seller's market right now. Yeah. So there's like no negotiating, which actually would be a relief to me because I'm terrible at bartering.

But oh, I'm the why. Yeah. I remember once I went to the Lower East Side years ago, they're like, oh, you know, in flea market that you can bargain. And they'd offer prices and I'd lower it. And they just kept going, no, it's $12.99. I was like, how about it? I'd literally bargain right up to the $12.99 and then. Yeah, yeah. And then give it. Well, then I'd feel bad. I argued with them and then I'd tip them on top of it. So,

very bad negotiator. Yeah, they could smell you coming. Yes. But buying a car is yeah nightmare i might it is just ride my bike everywhere what what have you been up to uh well so you you didn't end up you haven't bought a car yet it's in progress i think if they can get one to the lot i don't know he's like do they even have cars for you to test drive they i can't get a straight answer out of them about where the cars are what year they are it's it's all insanity it's yeah they might just not want to sell me a car yeah maybe not

yeah they might be a money laundering joint so because they don't act like they really actually want to sell like they care at all yeah no uh why what have you been up to uh oh i mean not not that much but i have a little piece that came out in mcsweeney's oh that's great this week um you saw it already it's a it's an infographic oh right that's a flow chart called will i have diarrhea yes that's really funny thank you it is inspired by my life okay it. It's autobiographical. It's in lieu of writing a memoir. You did a flowchart of.

Yeah, I feel like it's covered most of the important stuff. No, there are many life moments in your chart. Yes. Yes. That are all diarrhea inducing. You do get a good, a strong sense of the author by reading it. Oh, well, that's great. So it came out this week, just in time for the holidays.

Exactly. Everyone wants more diarrhea content. Definitely give me diarrhea. Around the holidays. So you're filling a niche. Well, and I'm honestly a little bit happy to have found my personal brand. Finally. Why are they asking for more?

They're like, please give us more of this content. I think people are thirsty for diarrhea content. I know. I'm sorry. We always, we didn't get to do

a lot of that stuff on Conan because we were told he was not that into scatological humor. Conan does not love scatological humor.an does not love unless he's the one doing it i've found yes there's then he loves it there's a clause buried deep in the rules of comedy for the show where it'd be like hey wait a minute why is this all of a sudden being done with gusto yeah then we went to italy with jordan and gave him fart sound

effects on a sound machine and that was all he did the entire time that's true well those were special circumstances i mean that's true you're in another country i think anything goes i think he felt like i'm doing scatological humor outside the United States. It doesn't count. Right. It sort of bridges the language gap. Right. I, uh,

just to tie it all together. I also had diarrhea on that Italy trip. Oh, you did? Yeah. Wow. I, you know,

I mean, we're, we're eating a lot of meat and drinking that red wine. Hey, you know, I just watched a succession. Yes. And I think there's a scene in Cortona where you might have gotten sick oh no way but certainly where we spent two days shooting some of my favorite scenes i watched the episode

was it is it when they go out for the bachelorette party yes probably the bachelorette party and i swear for a moment i see the steps of the cortona city hall and jordan yes lurking in the distance waiting to be recognized yes uh he's just standing there at attention hoping hey i love the italy show thank you oh really thank you oh oh funny you should mention that oh right i'm standing right here in cortona a a Conan sweatshirt on the exact steps where we filmed. You know what? I have to go back and double check or not double check, but I'm pretty sure it was Cortona. No, let's just say it was.

Yeah. It was Cortona. It was Cortona. We have a great show today. It's The Opposite of Diarrhea. Oh, wow. I love that. And I think our guest will too.

I think she'll really appreciate it. We're talking to Courtney Thorne-Smith, who recently came into the news because of her 1997 appearance on Conan alongside the late, great Norm Macdonald. People resurfaced that clip and the way that everything went off the rails and it went viral again again yes yes it's always been a popular it's just a classic norm mcdonald clip it's he's so funny it is and it builds really perfectly it's like a comedy master class yes we were excited to talk to her about it and and get her take on what it was like being on the guest chair that night with norm mcdonald next to her kind of almost taking over her interview

and uh well yeah we wanted to give her a chance to talk yeah and she's very talented and funny in her own right and um i mean you you've probably seen her she's an actress on melrose place ali mcbeal according to j, and a lot of other shows. So here's Courtney Thorne-Smith. Well, hi, Courtney. Courtney Thorne-Smith. Hi. Do you go by all three names or do you just...

I go by Televisions Courtney Thorne-Smith. Televisions Courtney Thorne-Smith. Yeah, it was a lot for my son when he was little, but he got used to it. Right, sure. Yeah, it's a lot for my son when he was little, but he got used to it. Right, sure. Yeah, it's important to know how to address people. A lot of his friends are probably like, wait, what's television? Yeah, yeah, exactly.

My son will actually say to me, I know you were big in the 90s. But the 90s are back. I'm sure everything you used to wear on Melrose Place is like now being sold at Urban Outfitters. Well, you know, so I went back and looked at the clip we're talking about today because I hadn't seen it since I was on it. And those pants are back in. Everything I was wearing is back in. Don't you wish you'd kept it all?

I probably still have most of them. I don't know if that set design's back in, but the clothing's all back in. And the clip you're referencing is the now, well, it's been famous for a long time, the clip of you with Norm MacDonald on Late Night with Conan O'Brien from 1997. Yeah. And it just resurfaced again because Norm sadly passed away, surprisingly to I think most people. Right. And people were sharing that clip because it was a perfect storm of Norm really firing on all cylinders and completely undermining your attempt to promote a movie that you were in. It became a highlight clip on Conan because that was 97.

Like he did a fifth anniversary special. And that clip was like kind of the big ender to the guest package of great memorable moments. And then the 10th anniversary. So it definitely lived on. It was definitely a big part of late night with Conan O'Brien prior to the internet really. Wow. Starting up. But so how did that feel?

I mean, you said you just watched it again this morning. How did it feel watching it? It was so much fun to watch it. I remembered it as being great fun. And I remembered, you know, normally after talk show appearance, it's kind of like, ah, was it okay? I don't know. It was fine.

But I remember just having so much fun because I'd just been out there laughing. And then people would say, was that okay for you? Was that okay? And I thought, to me watching it, I thought I just looked like someone who was having a wonderful time. He was making me laugh so hard. Conan was lovely. I authentically was having a great time. I mean, so I thought, so interesting that people say, and Conan, of course, is like, are you okay? Are you okay? I was like, did you not see me? I was laughing so hard. I was crying. I couldn't even breathe. I just thought there's, and I watched it afterwards. And also I've seen him over the years. I'll run into him and they'll check on me. Maybe a show had just been on, but I watched it and I thought, you know, I was there with Andy and Norm and Conan. And I thought,

what a heavenly place to sit. If someone said you get to have dinner with those three guys, you'd say, are you kidding? And you would expect to just sit there and laugh. You wouldn't expect to have deep conversations. You wouldn't expect to get a word in edgewise, but it would be delightful to just sit and laugh. And that's how it felt for me. And that's exactly what happened. Well, I think that that's what people are responding to is you weren't able to get a word in it was just no norm was a steamroller and he was yeah the second there was a pause i think after a while both it seemed like you and conan were kind of like um he's coming back in in 3.2 seconds and go and he just kept interrupting had you met him prior to that taping that night

i don't think so right i almost think in a way it was like i almost felt like he was trying to flirt with you on camera by does is that a crazy thought just that he was i think he was trying to impress you like it was his mating ritual well i haven't remembered until i watched it again he said in the beginning they had a crush on me from the tom snyder show which is also hilarious so it started off on this lovely note i mean you can't it's not gonna get much better than that he suckered you in with that and then it was like you know i don't mind being teased that's how my family communicates you know that's how my group of girlfriends i've been friends with for 30 years. To me, like a generous, loving tease.

Now, if he was saying something mean about me, it would have felt differently. But he wasn't. No, not at all. It was just funny and light. Well, you were a guest on Late Night six times. So this was somewhere in the middle there, which made me happy, too, because I was like, okay, at least you had had some other normal appearances on the show as well. Where you got to talk. Where you were allowed to talk. Actually talk. Yes. To be interviewed.

It wouldn't have bothered me, though, because, like I said, you know talk shows. It's this very strange thing where you have to talk to a pre-interviewer, and you have these set stories, and the host sets you up. And Conan's so good at this because even though it's set up, you still feel like you're having a conversation. Like there's room to play. He's not going in this story. So you end up going through 10 stories in one talk show appearance. You have nothing left for the next 10 years.

You can't talk to anybody for 10 more years. He lets it go and he'll actually have a conversation. So he's great at that. So I went in pretty relaxed. And I think even I was wearing my actual clothes. Like I think that's what I wore that day. It was before to get a stylist now this was pre-stylist you could actually wear oh and I liked it because I wore something that I would actually wear that represented me right as opposed to the character I was playing yeah so when Norm started going it

just felt like a relief to me it was like oh great especially when we were talking about chairman of the board because you know that was not say a project of great pride for me. And I had to promote it. And I think I was there to promote it. But Conan started with Melrose Place because he probably thought that was more interesting and then went into chairman of the board. And I was so happy when Norm took it and ran with it because I didn't know what to say. Because one of those things, it read as funny. I had high hopes for it.

I did it. The experience wasn't great. And I thought, oh, this is not going to be what I'd hoped. Like, you thought you'd never know. This could be amazing. I'm sure that happens a lot where it's just, there's so many levels at which things can go wrong. And, you know, even in the editing.

Yes. And look, granted, you know, you're doing Carrot Top's first movie. You might say you might have had an idea. But, you know, you also don't know. Like, Courtney Cox did The Pet Detective. And, you know, that was with a relatively unknown Jim Carrey. And that turned out amazingly. So I thought, you never know.

But I should have thought, that probably doesn't happen twice in a row. In the same year. So I thought, you never know. But I should have thought, that probably doesn't happen twice in a row. You probably- Right, in the same year. But I really wanted to do comedy after Morrow's Place because Allison was so just eternally brutalized and pained. And what didn't happen to Allison, right? Yeah, very soapy. Yeah. Oh, my word.

It's like Jesse's saying, it is so hard to make a good movie because there's so many things that can go wrong. And so many cooks. So many ways for something not to end up being fantastic. Yeah, I mean even brilliant people can make bad movies. When you go to a movie with your favorite comic actor and you don't laugh,

you think, how could that possibly happen? Right, right, right. Probably also detached from it because it's probably something you finished filming like a year earlier. So you probably were like, oh my God, I, oh, right. I did that movie. I've got to talk about it now. I forgot I did it. Yes. I think I kind of hoped it would kind of fade away. And then they said, you have this in your contract, you have to go promote it. So I went on Conan, who's a very safe place for me. And like I said, he's my, he was my favorite host. I felt the most comfortable there. And it was one in the morning, so there was no pressure. It was one in the morning. Well, the whole show felt, you know him, he's so lovely as a person

and he's so irreverent. And I thought, well, I can just go in here and have a nice time at least. And then I'll be done. I'll do my duty. And then Norm started. And it was just a gift. It was just great. You do it. You do it. Rock on. And I got to just sit there and laugh.

I was beside myself. I was so happy. That's great. And he did really get word out on the movie. I know. I was going to say. It was probably the best promotion that the movie got. Well, it wasn't really.

It wasn't great promotion. But, you know, the movie wasn't going to sink or swim based on promotion or not. It was just going to sink is the truth of what was going to happen. But I got to have a really fun talk show appearance. And it happened once before. I did the Tonight Show. And I was talking about my sister's wedding. And I did a bit about my dad telling a joke as we were walking down the aisle.

And Don Rickles was there. And Don Rickles started riffing on my dad being insane. And why was he at the wedding? Shouldn't he have been in a home? And he just went off on my dad. And people said, was your dad upset? I was like, was my dad upset? It was a highlight of his life.

He never stopped talking about it. Don Rickles teased him. He was beside himself. So we both got to be teased by comedians we really admire. That's great. Did your dad start bringing that story up every time you were out with people? Like, hey, did you guys like Don Rickles? You know Don Rickles.

Oh, here we go again. That is quite an honor. My dad was very funny in his own right. So I'm sure he was busy telling jokes. Maybe he worked on it every once in a while. Don Rickles was on Late Night early on. And it was a similar thing where all the writers, everyone piled into his dressing room. Everyone just wanted to meet him.

And he just started insulting all the writers. Like, you know, he just knew what everyone wanted. He was like, oh, you're the brains behind this show, you know, just started. And everyone was just like, oh my God, oh my God, he's making fun of me. It was a dream come true for everyone. Yes, it is. That's exactly how I felt. Yeah. So were you already a fan of Norm's or were you aware of Norm at all? I was a fan. I'm a comedy nerd. I always have been. So I'm a big fan going in.

So it was fun to just be there and sit next to him. Yeah. Thrilled to have him take over my interview. Get the Norm treatment. Yeah. That was the tail end of him hosting Week weekend update because i think he left the show later snl later that year so it timed out nicely and yeah he was riding that wave of you know being the weekend update host which was where he was brilliant obviously great so a lot of times i

think he'd be like a last minute booking sometimes because he'd be in the building and it's just like that conan was mentioning this, that, you know, if someone dropped out or something, no, you can get norm down, which is like a, you know,

usually a step up sometime, you know, wow, you have norm coming in. And, and a lot of times Conan had no idea what he was going to say or do, which made it all exciting. Yeah.

And you could trust him, right? He knew it was going to be funny. He knew it was going to be interesting. I watched because I went down that rabbit hole after I watched the clip and I watched him tell the moth joke. Right. And, you know, it's interesting. It reminded me, my dad told jokes that way.

He was just so inherently funny that a two-minute joke takes 10 minutes. The punchline is the least of it. You're going on the journey. And that's the same thing with Norm. It's like, I don't care how long this takes. Because it's just fun watching him tell the story. I hadn't seen the moth joke since it aired, and I had no memory of it.

And he's so delightful doing it. You just totally go for the ride. And you almost forget that it was a joke, even, to begin with. It's like, oh, I don't even remember what the premise was anymore. He's such a disruptor. Like the night of the Moth Joke show, I remember I was walking,

like act one, we do all the comedy stuff and then I have to go off stage and we'd go edit, you know, pull it up or tighten it or whatever. I go back to the edit room and I left the uh studio and i'm walking in a hallway and norm's being brought the other direction to be the guest and i i know i'm only to say hello like in a very superficial showbiz way not at all and i had my arm in this thing because i broke my arm and he's like hey it was like an excuse for him to just stop and start talking to me and

he just started going yeah you know my uncle broke his arm and oh boy let me and he started going into this long story and i'm like why is he doing this and then i realized like the stage manager and the segment producer all these people were around him and they were trying to hustle him out just you know the commercial break was ending and i swear i was thinking like he's just doing this to bust their balls because he just he just went on a monologue for like two minutes and they're kind of like looking at their watches and freaking out and and i was like i think he just loves oh he's disrupting pushing people's buttons yeah yeah yeah well also don't you think

i feel like he works on a different time frame than the rest of us yeah right like that's one of the great things his timing is so funny and when you said you know in the interview with me and conan him he was like there'd be a pause and then it'd be like he would come in at just the end of the pause like his timing was so extraordinary that you never knew when you were talking to him when the break was going to be when the punchline was going to be and you don't care you just kind of want and he did you know I saw him on comedians and cars getting coffee yeah right I felt the same way I thought oh he's just having a lovely time he's just in the moment in his own world his own time having a wonderful time he

doesn't seem nervous he doesn't seem like he has to perform right yeah that's a really good point he he would he'd take over and change the timing of whatever was going on and and and kind of turn it in you're right to norm time norm time yes and you had to you were literally kind of had to just be in his thrall and go along for the ride and he would always just you know stick the landing it was always great because he was so interesting like it wasn't you don't feel i didn't feel like i was fighting for stage time it was like he was talking and everything stopped and we all just stopped and looked until he was done because it was the most interesting thing in the room. Yeah. Right. I mean, I wasn't, I mean, luckily I didn't think he's taking my time. I need to compete. Didn't even occur to me.

I just thought, oh my God, Norm MacDonald is talking. Right. This is amazing. And I don't remember any other example on late night where he would just kind of take over like that for during someone else's interview. It was just... Yeah, I wonder if he felt bad after that one. Yeah. I don't think so. I think it began, like I was just saying,

when they saw the shot, it had all of us in it. You know, Andy, Norm, me, and Conan. So it was like we're all there together. I was like, we're a panel. We're all there together. Well, and I love, you can really see that Conan doesn't know what's coming.

I mean, I know Conan loves that too when things get derailed and he's like, all right, we're all, we're throwing the note cards out and now we're just following this new thread. But yeah, you can really see it, the joy that he's like, what's about to come out and how am I going to react to that? Well, and I think the reason that Chairman of the Board final joke is so memorable is because Conan tees it up. Yeah. You know, he goes, what's the name of the movie?

And you're like, Chairman of the Board. And then he just turns to Norm and goes, do something with that, you freak. Like, that is putting all this pressure on Norm and setting up whatever comes next. And then he just comes up with that line. I bet it's spelled B-O-R-E-D. Yeah. And that is just like, wow, okay. Yeah, and I remember that as coming in the beginning.

I remember that as being his run. So when I went back and watched it, I was surprised that was the end. There was so much other stuff. Yeah. It was just like, it was just like you're having dinner with somebody and then somebody at the next table keeps talking to you. Yeah, there's a restaurant near my house. Like what are you, what is happening? Yeah. Okay. Okay. I mean, I guess you're a part of it. I felt like a lottery winner just to get to be there. Because often, and it's true too on talk shows, sometimes you're sitting with people you really admire.

Right. But there's this window of you and the host and you're talking and these people don't really participate. So I loved it. I mean, I think it would be a great way. I think do that more. It was so much fun to all be in it together. Just talking about it. There's so many weird elements to a late night talk show.

Like you're speaking to a host, but there's someone else sitting next to you who maybe you admire. And then it's like, do I talk to them or do I just talk to, and then you have an audience, like someone's added an audience to this weird formula. Then you got to worry about, oh, are they laughing or are they listening? And I mean, I guess probably the best thing to do is try to tune out the audience. Like what do you do in that situation? Are you even aware of the audience or just try to keep it between you and the host or what's going through your mind? I have no idea. No, I mean, I think aware of the audience because they're the third person if there's two of you.

Now, there were four of us, so they were the fifth person. Right, right. And they were having fun and I was having fun. I think we were all just having a great time. And I think that's rare. You can have a nice time, you can think we were all just having a great time yeah I think that's rare you can have a nice movie you can think oh I did a good job but there's a very different thing between walking up a talk show I'm thinking I hit all my beats they're a good job and right I genuinely have fun I'm sweating from laughing so hard I can't I just had that great you know that feeling after you've gone out with your friends and you're laughing so hard you're

kind of drained yes that's how I felt dehydrated with your friends and you're laughing so hard you're kind of drained? Yes. That's how I felt walking off stage. And then Conan goes, are you okay? And I was like, are you kidding? Like, I'm beside myself. It was so much fun. Yeah. That's funny.

You should have added a writer for any talk shows you did after that that Norm had to be out there. If you were promoing something you didn't love. I was wondering that because you came on. I mean, you came on many times after this appearance, too. Were you then like, oh, yeah, I hope something goes off the rails or is this just going to be a straight interview and I'm going to have to, you know, hit all my story beats? Well, like I said, it was always fun to be interviewed by Komen. Yeah. It was always fun. I always felt relaxed because I knew that he would be funny and charming and it would be light and I wouldn't feel put on the spot. Right. I always felt like

he had he had it and we were going to have a nice time. You felt like you were in capable hands. Yeah. I felt like I was in capable hands. And, you know, in something like that, I've, you know, in that time in my life, I did so many interviews. And for the most part, they're fairly dry. You make a joke, you hit your beats. But this was so the exception, you would never think this is going to happen again. I mean, literally, it's like winning the lottery. And then the next day I wake up going, I guess I won the lottery today. You're not going to win the lottery. You just have to remember that. And then as I got older, and it was comedy writers, like when I worked on comedy shows, they'd come out and say, oh, we were watching that clip the norm mcdonald clip and i thought

well that's weird that's when i started getting a sense that it was having a life of its own oh cool like people would mention it to you and comedy writers which i loved i was so flattered by that i thought well i love that i've done something that you guys think is interesting or i said i was a part of something because obviously Norm is the star of the clip. So that was just great to have something like that and to go, well, so also, when it's something you really enjoy and then it has a second life,

that feels extra good because then you get to relive a good memory again and again. Yeah, and maybe you get a residual check. I wonder, you know, shockingly, you don't get paid a lot for talk shows. I think you get paid like $300. So there's probably a three cent minimum.

Yeah, I know. Yeah. You mentioned something that we don't touch upon a lot, which I don't think a lot of people know about, which is when you're going to be in a talk show, you have to do a whole pre-interview. Sometimes it could be like a one-hour phone call or something where you and this segment producer are trying to find things to talk,

you know, like stories. Mining you for punchlines. Yeah, and they're good or bad. I mean, the good segment producers will say, Hey, how are you? What's going on with your dog? What's going on with your son? They'll ask you. It'll be a fun conversation. Right. And then the bad ones go, What do you? What's going on with your dog? What's going on with your son? They'll ask you.

It'll be a fun conversation. Right. And then the bad ones go, what do you got for me? Yeah. No. No. That's not funny. No.

So by the time you get a broken shell and you crawl out to the top, you're going, I've got nothing of interest because I've just been doing all this. Oh, no. So there's a huge difference. That's terrible. It's so, well, also, it's just not smart because you want to walk out confident and feel like what you have to bring is going to be funny, especially that that was a time in my life when I was doing a lot of talk shows.

Right. Yeah. And you had to have different stories for each one. You have to have different stories. Yeah. So you're constantly mining your life to say, this is funny. Is this talk show worthy? Right.

Right. Can people relate to this? Is show worthy? Right, right. Can people relate to this? Is this anything? Yeah. Were those examples of people going, no, no, no, like right before you'd go, like you were back in your dressing room? No, you do the pre-interview usually a day or two before. Okay. But you're on the phone.

And the good ones, like I said, make you feel. They go, oh, my God. That's right. Make you feel charming and interesting. And it gets you telling more stories right the bad ones are the harsh ones oh just like say no not good no not good no not good and so then you walk out feeling just completely brutalized and uninteresting i'm really boring yeah probably that person that person from the phone is probably standing out in the studio with their arms folded you You're just like, oh, my God.

I have to please this parent. But they want their segment to go off. It was always so baffling to me. And I thought maybe you've never seen, like, go watch someone else do one of these because you're going to have a much happier, more confident talk show guest if they feel like they were funny in the pre-interview. Absolutely. You're like their corner man, you know, and it's like you want to just build them up and have it all be positive. Yeah, it's just bad parenting to say, you're not interesting, you'll fail. Right.

It's just, you know, read any parenting book. I hope none of them have children. No, no. Why are their children so insecure? No. No, not interesting. No, not interesting. No, not interesting. You know what?

We're going to skip dinner tonight. Just go to your room. You have nothing for me today. You have nothing. Eat in your room. Talk to your wall.

That's all you deserve. We'll try this again tomorrow and hopefully you'll step up. Yeah. No, that's great to hear this sort of backstory of what happens

before an interview because I think a lot of people also assume that that's just, you know, that you're just talking to the host. It's all ad-libbed. That it's all off the cuff, that you're improvising everything. But there is planning that goes into it. Some planning. Yeah. I mean, it is improvised, but you kind of know. A lot of planning. Like the daytime talk shows are much more casual. Yeah. Nighttime talk shows are more stressful. Like I think if you have a host like Conan, you can be a little more loose because he's going to make something out of whatever you give him.

Right. He's going to create something funny out of it. The Tonight Show was very intense. Like you had your stories and go through them. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And that's very nerve wracking because as you're going through them, you think, am I out of stories? I came with five. I thought that would be for, you know, four talk shows worth. Now we've gone through all my stories in my two minute segment. I've got nothing again. Right. I've got nothing. Where's Don Rickles? Don! Interrupt.

Wait, Courtney, I think we can hear your bulldog snoring. Oh, can you hear her snoring? She's a pug. She's a new addition. Does she need a sleep apnea? Oh, a pug. That's right. I just adopted Georgie from a wonderful organization called the Pug Queen. They adopt pugs from all over the world.

She came from China. And she's clearly exhausted from the trip. Wow. And it's amazing that she works as hard as she does and it's just pugs. But that's how many dogs need to be rescued in the world. She focuses on one. Wow. Like a snoring husband, if I put on her...

If I put it on her stomach, she doesn't snore. So she must have leaned a little bit. When she's had too much to drink. Yeah, exactly. Do they make breathe rights for pugs? You have to do something. Or get a sleep apnea machine. So cute. Are you a pug person?

Is that your signature dog? I'm a dog person. I'm obsessed with dogs. My last dog I rescued before her, I looked up pug. And a lot of the pugs that are available for rescue are really really old they're missing eyes and like really really bad shape so i found this oh no dog that came up under pug he's not a pug he's like some sort of chihuahua mix but i don't mind crazy about him and then somebody told me about the pug queen yeah and i found out i

could adopt a younger pug with a lot of years left in her so i did that so i'm excited that's great yeah she's we think she's four or five oh wow she's hilarious yeah no pugs are endlessly entertaining i only complain about pugs oftentimes the tail doesn't cover their anus which i I have an issue with. But that's just me. That's true. And that's true. And it's dark black against their light fur. Yes. Yes.

Thank you. Yes. If you're looking for an invisible anus, pug is not your dog. No. That is not your, no. Not for you. Right. Labs are nice.

They usually, their tails kind of go down over it. But if that's your goal. If you can train the tail to droop over, then I'm totally on board. Or you can make a little pair of underwear for it. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, you should. Or a drape or something appropriate. An anal drape.

A skirt because she's such a pretty lady. That's all I'm asking. Well, one of the things I noticed upon rewatching your clip with Norm was that you get to talk a little bit about the season finale of Melrose Place and your character, Allison, who was really kind of like run through the ringer, it seemed like. And I was wondering if there was anything you didn't get to say that, you know, because you got steamrolled, but it really was just kind of getting to the point of, you said it's too much on the show.

Well, I used to have, way back when, I had a run of what she'd been through. My mom used to call her Stella Dallas, who I guess is a soap opera star from the 50s, maybe even a radio soap opera star to whom everything happened. And I had a speech once. It was a Christmas episode and I was talking to Grant Show, Jake, and I was crying and listing what had happened to myself that year.

And it was insane because I'd been on drugs and I was drunk and I hit a kid when I was drunk. And then my best friend had a custody battle and I showed up high at the custody battle and she lost her kid. And then I remembered I was molested and I confronted my molester at my family barbecue. And then Billy was going to be married. That's where you do it. It changed. Right up to the barbecue. Oh, and then the apartment building blew up and they tried to get me out, but I was too drunk so I didn't want to be married. That's where you do it. It changed. Oh, and then the apartment

building blew up and they tried to get me out, but I was too drunk, so I didn't want to get out. They got me out, but the explosion had made me blind. And then everyone was really nice to me, so when I got my sight back, I pretended I was still blind to make everybody still be nice to me. And then everybody found out I was

pretending to be blind, but I wasn't really blind. This is all one episode yes and then we did a reunion it was the 25th anniversary so six of us went back to New York

and did one of the morning talk shows and they did this game where they were playing scenes and we were trying to remember what the scenes were there was a scene where Doug

Savant who played Matt and I had been kidnapped like all this we didn't remember like we were also we were kidnapped you didn't even remember that yeah it's all this, we didn't, we were also, we were kidnapped? You didn't even remember that. Yeah.

It's all a blur. We couldn't remember any of it because we did 33 episodes a year, which is an obscene amount. What? 33?

33 episodes a year. We did, for twice a year, for six weeks, we shot two episodes at once and the actors would run back and forth. They'd never done that before.

It was, we had no idea what was happening. We were just like at once and the actors would run back and forth. They'd never done that before. It was, we had no idea what was happening. We're just like, just say the lines as written. The audience will fill in the emotions with no idea what's happening.

Wow. And they just kept raising the stakes. You know, it had to get higher and higher. Right, of course. Oh my God. You're just trying to play,

trying to play the truth. It's like being addicted to heroin. You gotta keep, we need to get that high. Right, just to get the dose. I know. Well, to heroin. You got to keep, we need to get that high. Right, you need the dose. I know. Well, and my character was an alcoholic and a drug addict. So I was also balancing that with everything that was happening.

Oh my gosh. Oh, I can see why you'd want to do comedy after that. Yes. Wow. I mean, it sounds like it almost veered into comedy in a way. Well, it was comedy and we had a lot of fun. Like we did have a lot of fun because we understood the absurdity of it but you can't play it right you have to play the humor or it's an

insult to the audience right so you're playing it even though you know that you know confronting your molester at the family picnic is wrong in every way and not realistic and you know you do have because you want to be respectful to people who've had that experience. Right. So you can't, you can't riff on, Oh, what a ridiculous way to do this because you tried to play the truth.

Right. Well, it's, it's such a compliment to you as an actress, as an actor, that they had your character go through all these crazy experiences. And they're like, she can pull this off. It's a testament to your range that you can do all that.

It's pretty impressive. Well, that's kind of say, you know, it's up to debate how well. I'll debate you. We did it, but we all had to go through absolutely insane situations. situations i mean we were all just trying to keep up someone had to be the molester exactly do you feel like that helped later when you're going out for roles you're like okay this is i got this i i've already been a burn victim i could yeah i could do it i've run kids over drunk i've run kids over sober've run kids over drunk. I've run kids over sober. I've run kids over high.

Well, you know, that's a good point. You do get to do a lot, right? Like on a sitcom, you're sort of doing, you're being funny, which is my favorite thing to do. So, you know, I love to do it. But on Melrose Place, you get to try every single emotional arc. Yeah. Probably in the same episode. You get to go through all of them.

And also kiss every boy they bring onto the set. So that was kind of nice. Oh. That's a nice way to spend your 20s. Who is the best kisser? Oh, I can't. I can't tell you. Oh, you can't?

There are many. Oh. Yeah. Well, you know, Andrew Hsu, I actually dated him so I can say that and not offend him. Okay. Right. Lovely guy. Great kisser. Right. Lovely guy. Great kisser.

Aw. All right. That's a safe answer. Yeah. Well, I was wondering, Courtney, what are your favorite types of roles to play? Because you obviously had a wide range from drama to comedy. Sitcom. Rom-coms, mysteries.

Yeah. I like comedy. Sitcom is my favorite favorite favorite i just honestly you know i just i like to go to work with funny people and on a sitcom first of all the schedule of sitcoms you know multi-camera sitcoms is so light that everybody there is happy you know right top to bottom the the entire crew, everybody can also see their families. They're living balanced lives. That's important. I love it. And I like that because I, my life is very important to me. You know, I'm not someone who's ever said I'd rather be working. I enjoy working, but I really, I love my dogs. I'm crazy about my kid. I love my friends. You have other interests. Yeah, so I love to work.

You said your dogs before your kid. I just want to point that out. When I have... He would not be surprised. He's a teenager now, so he's likely to have other interests. As long as I'm not asking him something, he's thrilled. Go talk to your dog. Yeah, number four.

Just leave me alone. He's very's very busy yeah he's happy to have distractions happy to have mommy distracted you know when he started when he turned like 12 13 and all of a sudden it wasn't come play legos with me it was stay out of my room he wanted to be with his friends and that's when i went back to college because i realized oh i don't want him to start saying to his friends we have have to play with my mom. She has nothing else to do. Right. So I had to really, because I loved, I love playing chutes and ladders. I love playing Legos. I loved all the stuff. And then I realized, oh, I'm not, I'm not the person he wants to hang

out with anymore. So I had to get really busy. So I adopted two dogs and i went back to school and oh that's great he's very happy because he's very busy with his own life what would you study when you went back to school i'm in school now oh that's great yeah i'm getting my undergrad so i started working when i was 17 right at high school so i never did so i'm going to a university pennsylvania has an online school called pen lps online so my degree is called creative studies which is really writing english and then i had to take a math class i had to take a professional always throw that in right but i got an a plus in my math class congratulations of course it was called math is all around us. It's like math for creative people. And my son said, well, it wasn't math.

And I was like, well, say what you will. Just go hang out with your friends and leave mother alone. It was math enough. And you're going to be an Ivy League graduate. I'm going to be an Ivy League graduate. Yes. Well, that's so cool. I'm always really inspired by people who,

it's intimidating when you're going to be older than, you know, your classmates. But it's cool for people to see that you can have a second act. Like you can always have, you know, another aspect, great. And there's a lot of the staff. The staff can take them free. So I have a lot of professors in my classes, which is so much fun. And because of the pandemic, people started using Zoom. So it used to be all online, but now we really have classes where we get to talk to each other and see each other. And, you know, because of where I am in my life and my kid is older, I've got so much time. So I'm the dork who's getting my assignments in at 6 a.m. a day early. Right. And other people are like, well, I've got to go to work.

And I've got, I'm like, oh, really? After I do this, I'm going to walk the dogs. And then maybe I'll do more. And I'm doing my life. And I get to, I'm just having, it's what I'm doing. So I'm having so much fun with it. It's nice to not have to, you know, they keep saying, well, what do you want to do? What are you going to use your degree for?

Right. To have? Like, I'm just here for the thrill of it. Well, you like learning, it sounds like. I mean, that's what's nice. I get to be here to enjoy the learning. It's, you know, it's young because we'll have young people in the classes. I was taking a screenwriting class.

It was so much fun. I was so great. We were learning so much. And this one young guy, what about grading? What about grading? What about grading? And I thought, I feel so lucky that I don't, that that's not where my brain is. I get to just go, oh, that's amazing. That's thrilling. That's exciting. I can't wait to learn. I mean, you did get an A plus anyway, but. So I don't have to do anything else. I can die today and that will be taped to my coffin.

A plus in math yes no but i think that's a really because when you're when you are 20 you're not doing i mean you're so forward thinking that you're well yes i was so drunk so i wouldn't have remembered anything like you know what i mean i wouldn remembered anything. So this is a great time for me to do it. Yeah. Right. So when you went into acting when you were 17, part of your brain I'm thinking was like, someday I want to maybe someday down the road,

circle back and go to college. Well, I was packing to go to Allegheny College. Okay. And I got a call from an agent asking me to audition for something. So I got cast in Lucas in this freak open call audition in San Francisco. Lucas was a movie. Lucas was a movie. David Seltzer, to whom I owe literally my entire career, wrote and directed Lucas. Yeah. And so then I got an agent out of that. My high school acting teacher's wife happened. It was all felt so... Wow. So you did a movie before you even had an agent.

That's so cool. Well, so no, I got an agent through that because my high school acting teacher's wife was a working actor. Wow. So I got her agent, who's my agent to this day. Oh, wow. That's great. And they called and said, do you want to audition for a movie for Kick? So I did and I got it.

So I thought I'll put off college for a year and a year and a year. And then I signed up to go again when I was 21 yeah but I'd already said yes to do the very intellectual beach volleyball movie side out so I traded college for side out which you know same thing right the prequel to chairman of the board exactly so now I now then I you, worked for a long time, had a kid, my kid started closing his playroom door. And I went online, I looked and all of a sudden, so many great schools have online options. You know, you can go right now and take a class at Harvard, take a class at Yale. Yeah, it's really extraordinary. That's so cool. That is great. No, my wife went in when she turned 50, went back, we moved to LA and she was like, uh, the kids were older and she,

she went to online partial residency school to get an MFA. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was great experience. So great. Well, Courtney, I have one more question for you, which is. Okay. And then I have 20. Okay. And then I have one more after that. Have you watched Chairman of the Board since it came out? I don't know that I watched it when it came out. Oh. Well, it could become a cult classic.

Maybe some movies need a little more time. Another 10 years. We'll circle back to it. I know. I mean, all of this is making me want to watch it, to be honest. Yeah. Yeah, please do. And if you make it through, you win a prize.

It feels like a challenge. I dare you. I double dare you to go watch it. Okay. All right. Jesse and I will watch it. Challenge accepted. We should watch it before this episode airs.

We will do that, and then we can comment on it. You should. We'll rate it. We'll give it a rating. But do you want to hear the rating, Courtney, or not? Be kind. Let me have some points for being a good person. I want the good person rating.

I don't want the objective rating. Well, be very kind. I want the good person with the adorable dog rating. Okay. I'm sure you're great in it, so I'm not good person rating. I don't want the objective rating. Well, be very kind. I want the good person with the adorable dog rating. Okay. I'm sure you're great in it. So I'm not worried about you. Yeah, we're not worried about you. I was 20.

When was I? When I left the mall, I was like 27. And I was the president of a multinational corporation. So let's just sit with that for a minute. I have no problem with that. Because when you think of 20-year-old Courtney Thornton, what do you think? President of a multinational corporation.

Yeah, I remember Julia Roberts and my best friend's wedding is 27, and she's got this pact. Like, if we're not married by the time we're 27, we're just going to marry this random guy I went to college with. You know, 27 was like when movies thought we were supposed to be adults fully formed adults i know it seems so young now it's like yeah what aren't you still in high school you're still on your parents insurance you just got off of it so yeah everything is fraught yeah we didn't get a chance to talk about this but you're also

starred in a series of mystery movies called the emma fielding mysteries curious what that was like that seems like it would be a whole different experience where you played a detective that was really fun uh i got to work with james tupper who i really enjoy and it was a fun, they're really fun little romps. You know, I wasn't really a detective. I was an archaeologist. Oh, what a dream. Who was also a detective. Oh my God. That was my childhood dream. Was it really? Yes. Oh, I love that. So you were kind of Indiana Jones-y-ish. Yeah.

We had some things that were sort of Indiana Jones-y. It was fun. It was a fun little lark to do. You know, they do a lot of those, and they've got it down. Right. And it's nice. And you shoot in Canada where everybody is so nice, but you're cold the whole time, so it's the balance. You said they have it locked down up there, and that reminds me of, I know someone who worked on a show called Cosby Murder Mysteries.

Yes. There was this guy named Bill Cosby and he played a detective on the show. Okay. And he said that, you know, they'd spent all this time writing an intricate murder mystery script where you have to stick to the script. You know, you're going from point A to, I don't know, F, where the killer's caught. And they said that they'd be out on the set and a helicopter would land

and Bill Cosby would come out to shoot some scenes. He'd shoot the scenes and ad-lib all this stuff. And they'd be like, that was great, but you gotta find got to find the knife in the weeds or we're not going to find out who the killer is and he'd just be like you've got it you know what i trust you guys you'll figure something else out yes and he'd get back in the helicopter and take off and they were like what the fuck and they'd have to like they'd have to rewrite the whole script where someone else was like, Hey, uh, but what's that over there in the week?

Oh, it's a knife. Just wow. I, I had never thought about that, you know, with a mystery, I guess it has,

does have to be a tightly constructed. Cause that was when they were doing Columbo. Right. You know, intricately plotted. Those were, those are brilliant movies. Like still watching it. Those were so Those are brilliant movies. Like still watching it.

Those were so well done. Like features. They were like features. And they did, I think, four a year at Macmillan and wife. I'm going to go rewatch those. How fun. They were so well done. That TV movies were so well done then.

Yeah. Yeah. In the 70s, there were a ton of them. Except for Killdozer. Killdozers, there were a ton of them. Yeah. Except for Killdozer. Killdozer, I remember as a kid. What was Killdozer? It was a bulldozer on an island. That would kill people?

Well, it hit a glowing rock that had come from outer space. And then the bulldozer came to life and started killing everyone, everyone in this construction crew on an Island. And it was, I was like 10 years old and I'm like, uh, I think everyone could maybe outrun the bulldozer. That's going at three miles an hour. No,

it would like come out from behind bushes. Someone would be, you know, eating and it's like, ah, it's very quiet. Yes. I don't know how they finally defeated Bulldozer.

I love that you remember that. Maybe they walked faster than two miles an hour to escape Bulldozer. Do you think that was brought out to compete with Knight Rider, which was my favorite show? Oh, probably. I don't know. Or did it inspire Knight Rider? I don't know.

Did the Bulldozer have a British accent? That's the real question. I don't think it... That would have been great if it talked. Oh my God. Sounds like it's time for a reboot. It's so time for a reboot. It's so time for a reboot.

So Jesse and I have a lot of homework. We have to watch Chairman of the Board, Killdozer, Columbo. And I'm going to be the hard-boiled head of the construction site, because I think that's the next step after running a multinational corporation and Chairman of the Board. Of course.

Use like a toothpick or something to add that illusion to make you look tough. I'm a prop actor. It's just part of who I am. I can't wear a hard hat because of the hair. Oh, right, right. I'll constantly be taking it off like I'm a prop actor. It's just part of who I am. I can't wear a hard hat because the hair. Oh, right. Right. Of course.

I'll constantly be taking it off like on Charlie's Angels when they were taking off the helmets all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Whoa. You're really in charge. Gotta find that bulldozer. Yeah. Now that you're taking classes, do you feel like you want to write something for yourself? Or has that ever been something you've aspired to?

I do write. I did. I wrote and published a novel that came and went very quickly several years ago. So now I'm writing again. Now that my son is gone, I'm writing again. I'm taking mostly writing classes. I'm being not very smart, and I'm taking all the writing classes first. So I'm going to be left with math and geology.

Yeah, your next book is a novel about a mathematician. I'll be left with math and geology. Yeah, your next book is a novel about a mathematician. With math and science. Exactly. It's not very smart, but I'm having a lovely time taking all the writing classes. That sounds like a great plan to me. Yeah. It sounds great. Yeah, it is.

It's great fun. Yeah. Well, we look forward to whatever comes next for you. Yeah. Thank you. And you always have a space to promote it here on Inside Conan. That should be just a standing. We pay reparations

to Courtney Thorne-Smith for self-promotion. Oh, I shouldn't have told you I had fun. I should have said it was awful. You own it. Damn it. You should have said that.

You'll learn eventually. I played that all wrong. You will learn eventually. Well, Courtney, it's so great to meet you. Thank you for doing this. Thank you. This was fun. So good to talk to you both. Yeah will learn eventually. Well, Courtney, it's so great to meet you. Thank you for doing this. Thank you. This was fun. So good to talk to you both. Yeah, you too. We were very excited

when you said yes. You said you'd be on the show. So much fun. Thank you so much. Thanks a lot. Thank you. Many thanks to Courtney Thorne-Smith. Thank you, Courtney. We did promise in that interview that we were going to watch Chairman of the Board. I immediately forgot we promised that.

And then our producer was like, so you guys are going to watch a movie, right? And we're like, wait, what? He's like, you promised. Yeah. And then you watched it first. And I thought, well, we don't both need to watch it right there's no sense in both of us being miserable so did you watch it i did end up watching it oh you felt guilty in solidarity yeah and i i didn't say a thing to you one way or the

other whether it was you did it a fantastic sleeper should have been a sleeper hit. Right. A cult classic. Well? Well, I did look up the Rotten Tomatoes score. Yeah. Do you know what it is? I think it was like 13%. It was 13%, yes. Yeah. And with our two down votes.

Which I think you get 7% just for putting your name on it. That's true. Where do we start? That movie, within the first 30 seconds, lets you know what you're in for yes which is very unusual for a film to come out of the gate that's hot it comes out hot in one direction boy oh boy what i was curious about was whether they came up with the title before the movie was written because there's just a very loose so there's kind of a surfing theme in the movie right top is a surfer dude right and he lives in venice and then i'll just give a quick plot synopsis oh okay he somehow he befriends this

old man who is the head of a multi-million dollar corporation. Jack Warden, the great character actor. Yes. That stunned me that he was in there. Only for one scene. Right. And then he dies. He knew what to do.

And he leaves everything to Carrot Top. Right. Who becomes chairman of the board. Right. See, the title works on two levels. Two levels. The thing I did like is that Jack Warden does a video will where he bequeaths things. And I thought that was both a great device and also something that I would like to explore myself.

Sure. Just one last F like to explore myself. Sure. Just one last. Absolutely. F you to my enemies. And it forces people to come to your funeral to watch a video. Well, that's true. Good way to get a full house.

Yeah. Attendance. Oh, and then you're not, you don't have to be there to hear if, if stuff's not getting laughs. Right. That's the best part.

You know what amazed me about that movie? Carrot Top was screaming the entire movie. Like no one told him, you're not in a club. Hey, what's like talking like this? Would you like to go out on a date? I was just, it was the most, it was crazy. It was crazy. Well, and I was also curious, he has all these homemade inventions.

Do you think that he made those himself? Are they technically props? They are props. I mean, he was a hot prop comic at the time. So they were like, let's cash in on his prowess for props. Yes. And the fact he screams on stage, which I understand on stage, but he was yelling through the whole movie yeah it really was off tonally with how everyone else was i mean courtney is is kind of a serious actress in it right she's a very buttoned up executive at the company right who who also i was like she didn't even appear till i think 45 minutes into the film. No, I think they were writing it and they're like,

oh, you know, we need to add a love interest. Yes. And is the movie over yet? No, okay. Here's Courtney. How much more? Yeah. Yeah, Thorne Smith.

And then she quickly, you know, falls for the top just because of all of his, you know, I'm sure he has many props for the bedroom. And that was that. You have to hope. I will say the one thing that saved it for me is Larry Miller, isn't it?

Yes. One of my favorite comedians. That was the best part of the movie by a lot. He's a great comic actor. Very funny. And, oh man, I don't know if you ever saw him

do stand-up comedy uh late 80s early 90s one of the top comics really really hilarious so he's he's really funny he's really great yeah i mean i don't as carrot tops nemesis also yes you're rooting for him against carrot top so no i mean carrot tops a really nice guy and everything, but they just should have toned down his screaming in the film. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. I don't know. I mean, it just seems all of it's odd. I don't know how it was, if it was written for Carrot Top or if he.

I think so. It must have been. But it's an insane movie. Yes. Yeah. It's be. But it's an insane movie. Yes. Yeah. It's crazy on all levels. Like my eyes and my ears and my brain have lawyered up three separate sets of attorneys to sue. Yeah.

The ear damage. I was happy to have the commercial breaks. That kind of helped me. I was going to say that the commercials actually saved the movie. Yes. I think that more movies like this should have commercial breaks. Yes. To be honest.

I didn't really actually, it did help. It's like. It helped. Yeah. I could get up, I could collect my thoughts and then you, you dive back in. It was like doing, you know, interval training. Your taxes. Yeah.

Yes. I did write down that they used the phrase, and I didn't know if this ever, I mean, this is in my head from the time, but I didn't realize anyone ever actually used it, but the phrase, that's gotta hurt. Oh, was that in the movie? Was in there

multiple times, yeah. Oh, wow. That must have been a big catchphrase in the late 90s. Yeah, or maybe it became one because of this movie. That's what I couldn't remember. Well, sure. You know what I loved when I was done? It said, customers who watched Chairman of the Board, the movies—

This is going to screw up our algorithms. Absolutely. Well, it's going to screw up my wife's algorithm because it's suggesting Blues Brothers 2000, The Love Guru. Yes. Something called Shanghai Noon. I looked up the director. You know what he went on to direct? What? Inspector Gadget 2. Oh, he's a gadget guy.

Yes. Beverly Hills Chihuahua 2. Jingle All the Way 2. Two? Oh, wow. Yes. I mean, technically he should have directed Chairman of the Board 2. Yeah. But. But this was how he earned his place.

Yeah, exactly. And I think he did some Hallmark Christmas movies around there, which is also perfect. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, I was impressed that three people had written this movie. That was the takeaway I had. It was a group project. It was, yeah.

And maybe it was a too-many-cooks situation. Right. A lot of hothead personalities. Right. Yeah. Wanting their artistic vision. Maybe they should remake it and just have one writer and it'll. It could be remade.

Yeah. I wonder who would be the modern day Carrot Top. We could write the sequel. Why don't we agree to do that right now? Another bad, just like we agreed to watch this. Now we're, let's agree to remake it.

Yeah. Chairman of the board too. I don't know who that movie was made for. It wasn't for this. Now we're, let's agree to remake it. Yeah. Chairman of the board too. I don't know who that movie was made for. It wasn't for kids. Cause there's, I think there's a lot of dirty. People who are hard of hearing. Yeah. There were a lot, there were a lot of sex jokes in it.

There was a lot of dirty stuff in there. So it wasn't kid friendly, but yet. I'm going to say stoners. Okay. Morphineers, maybe, too. Yeah. It was... Well, we did watch it, and we didn't have to pay for it.

I saw that you can buy it for $3.99. Usually, it's a rental for $3.99. Hey, I have an idea. If our listeners have ideas for bad movies we can watch next... Oh, I'd love that. You can either write them into us or leave a review on iTunes. That would be great. And tell us what awful movies we can enjoy.

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