Inside Conan: An Important Hollywood Podcast - D’Arcy Carden Revisits Meeting Conan (And Then Meeting Him Again)

Episode Date: May 27, 2022

D’Arcy Carden joins writers Mike Sweeney and Jessie Gaskell to discuss her love for Late Night, meeting Conan before she famous, what it was like to finally appear on his show, and her role in the u...pcoming “A League of Their Own” series.Got a question for Inside Conan? Call our voicemail: (323) 209-5303 and e-mail us at insideconanpod@gmail.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And now, it's time for Inside Conan, an important Hollywood podcast. Welcome to Inside Conan, an important Hollywood podcast. Oh, I like the new emphasis. Yeah. Just fixing it up. I'm Mike Sweeney, and you are... I'm Jesse Gaskell. Yes, yes, consistently so.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Thank you. Some people, you know, you never know who you're going to get. That's right. We have breaking news this week, don't we? Sure, we do have breaking news. Oh, we should explain. Normally, we talk about behind the scenes of Conan O'Brien, his late night empire, and we've this season been doing kind of an arc, a look from 1993 up till the wind up of his TV show. Yesterday, yeah. He's staying in the papers.
Starting point is 00:01:00 He officially has a podcast empire. Yes. So the big news is... Oh yes, the big news we both read about. Yes. I mean, I think we knew... I know. Sort of the broad strokes.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Yes. It's not inside news. It's we read a press release. Yes, exactly. So that's about all the information we have. So if you came here to get more information... We'll make it up. I'm totally...
Starting point is 00:01:21 Yes, we will make up some for you. I can't wait to make up some facts about Conan's sale of the Team Coco podcasts to the Sirius network. So Sirius is the new overlord. Right. That sounds negative. I'm going to say... Well, it was meant to be, I hope. Feudal lord. Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:40 No, Sirius is the new boss. Right. I guess, yeah. They are the Right. And. I guess, yeah. They are the boss. They are the boss, yeah. And our producer had to go to a orientation. Yesterday. This week.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Yeah. Get all the sexual harassment training out of the way. Mm-hmm. Learn about the benefits. And I guess, yeah, we're not, I guess we're outside contractors. Yeah, we're, well, no, technically I'm a vendor. You're a vendor. There you go.
Starting point is 00:02:07 I'm a vendor. I love the sound of that. It sounds like. I'm selling hot dogs outside. Yes, exactly. You're in the public square. After the podcast wraps up. Selling your wares.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Yeah, so we didn't have to do the orientation, which means I still get to sexually harass you. That's. Whenever I want. That's what keeps me coming back week after week. You get extra pay. I don't get benefits though. We are friends without benefits. We are.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Zero benefits. So yeah, what else do we know? There's going to be a serious channel. Well, that's the funny part. Team Coco related. That's crazy. That's 24 hours a day of content. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:47 While you drive your Hertz Rent-A-Car around. Yeah. And then when you hand it in. I have Sirius, actually. Sirius is fun. Yeah, it is fun. Although I never get up into the talk channels. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:59 I keep it low. I wonder what number channel it'll be. I know. They should keep that TBS channel 247 from DirecTV. Oh, God. Everyone's got that burned into their mind. Maybe they'll have reruns of The Big Bang Theory. Four hours of that is a lead-in to our show, just like on TBS.
Starting point is 00:03:18 And they'll be higher rated. And Howard Stern will be, I guess, in the same company as Howard Stern. That's true. I know. That's what I'm excited about. I'm excited about it, too. I want to see if there's a need for an inside Howard. I think there is.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Don't they have, like, I think he's got two channels, and the second channel is kind of like, let's see what Howard ate yesterday. We got his menu for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Oh, I thought you were looking at the stool samples. I am. I am. As being a vendor with Sirius, you get stool samples sent to you. It's a whole different... Stool exclusivity, yes.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Exactly. But yeah, I mean, as soon as we hear more, we will let you guys know. Yeah. We'll pass the info right along. As soon as there's another press release. Right. Even though there's going to be a serious channel, there'll be all the Team Coco podcasts.
Starting point is 00:04:13 You can still hear them on 8 million different platforms. Yes, that's right. That is important to remember. It's not like there's a paywall now for the podcast. Yeah. I'm excited about the swag. And will it still be bright orange or will they go over to the serious royal blue or will they blend the colors? Or a combo. So many questions. I know. I'm really just, I want this podcast to
Starting point is 00:04:37 continue long enough for us to get multiple zip up hoodies from different owners. And put them on eBay. Well, what else is going on with us? Cause I mean, people can read all about the serious thing. Yeah. They don't need to hear from us. We don't need to hear us jabbing about it. Let's talk about other stuff. Yeah. Yeah. So what else is going on? What's, what's new with you?
Starting point is 00:04:58 Honestly, the most exciting thing in my life right now is a new business that just opened or is about to open down the street from where i live yes from my house yeah it's been much anticipated this is a space that used to be a burger shop and then during the pandemic it you could tell they were getting desperate because they had this giant sign made that said now serving pasta pasta. Oh. And so it was like, they were really. At a burger, at a burger shop? At a burger shop.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Oh, our burger and pasta combo. But so it's been empty for a couple of years and I could tell that it was starting to get renovated. It's so close to us. So that's why it's, it's exciting. The,
Starting point is 00:05:41 the potential. You can walk there. We can walk there. Maybe it's going to be some kind of lunch spot, a takeout. We could get sandwiches. Then we started seeing as they were renovating, it was like, okay,
Starting point is 00:05:52 they're making it look really cute inside. It's got the subway tile and they painted it like a tangerine color, put a tangerine awning outside. And we thought, okay, this is our algorithm. Like this is gonna be made for us. Yes. Maybe it's a Japanese bakery.
Starting point is 00:06:09 I kept thinking. Or maybe it's going to be another classic burger and spaghetti joint that people in LA love. Well, honestly, I kind of wish it was because we found out finally what it's going to be. Okay. The sign went up. Yeah. Yeah. What is it? It's going to be okay the sign went up oh yeah yeah and what is it it's going to be la's first vegan butcher shop oh that's fantastic yeah that was our reaction that's
Starting point is 00:06:40 fantastic our faces just fell it was wait, that's a real business? So in the morning, will people be carrying sides of vegetable beef sides into the back? Yeah. For chopping into... I have no idea. Like, are they going to slice it? Yeah. They're doing deli cuts.
Starting point is 00:06:57 I mean, there was a photo and it looks like vegan deli meats, which it's confusing to me because I thought, I didn't think vegans wanted their food to look like meat. Animals. Yes. And it should be titled LA's first and last vegan butcher shop. Maybe it'll flourish. I don't know. Well, maybe they're trying to widen the, you know, increase the size of the tent by inviting meat lovers in with their... Yeah, they said they're going to have ribs there.
Starting point is 00:07:31 What? What? I know. I know. It just sounds... It sounds like a Nathan for you. That's what we... Our first thought was like, oh, we got to look up if there's a new season of Nathan for you.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Of course, that's what it... But they spend a lot of time renovating it yes and it's i mean i saw the announcement and it's got actual restauranteurs behind it are the ribs going to be like carved out of wood like out of maple i i'm not even kidding what what are they doing i don't know i'm also imagining like if you go all the way with it and you right and and they've got like blood-stained aprons on right oh yeah cutting things but it's beet juice it's beet juice man if i cut a finger off because i was cutting plant-based pastrami i'd be really embarrassed i'd be too embarrassed to go the doctor i'd rather just bleed out and die than say I was slicing vegetable bologna.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Your blood would ruin the entire batch. You know, I worked in a deli. Did you? A&P. Did you ever hear of the A&P supermarkets? Do they have those? It's an East Coast thing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:36 But I worked in a deli for a bit, I think because I had a crush on one of the cashiers. That was how I pursued my business career. That's as far as you thought it through, yeah. That actually was. And there was an older woman who was showing me how to use the meat slicer, and she was elderly. She had a hairnet on. She was great. And she's yelling at me to be careful with the slicer. And then she started holding up her hand she's held up her left hand she's like see this and she had like three fingers on her left hand that went off the tips went off in weird directions no and she she said see this i was slicing head cheese on she knew the date
Starting point is 00:09:16 i didn't even feel a thing and a customer was like oh your fingers in there and the in my head cheese and and you know it was like i don't know the early 60s so everything was sewn back on at like weird angles yeah yes or like the wrong hand or i don't know things look like toes on her but she walked me through all her slicer accidents oh my god and it has to be the grossest thing to slice your finger on. Oh, head cheese is so gross. But I loved, I had a microphone in the deli and- Oh, that's fun to call the numbers. So I started doing fake announcements, like, you know, attention shoppers, you know, we're having a coleslaw fight in aisle six.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Oh, that was the beginning of your standup career. That's right. That's right. But it was all to impress the cashier. Yes. Did she like it no did you ever go on a date we went on one date yeah you took her to the store that you worked at by the way i want to make it clear i'm not i'm not laughing about vegan lifestyle in general i think that no plant-based lifestyle there's that's a healthier for the planet and it's healthier for people. And yourself. Yes. That's a good thing in general.
Starting point is 00:10:28 You're specifically... I just think this is such a sort of twee offshoot that is so specific to this hipster neighborhood. It's crazy. It's an abattoir. It's crazy. For plants. And just the idea that, yes, we're trying to make it look like a thing that is meat. They should have a TV ad where plants are being marched up a chute into the slaughterhouse. Get up there!
Starting point is 00:10:54 The cabbages are trying to escape. Get in there! Well, you know who meat lovers and vegans can both enjoy? They both agree on this person. They both agree! This is the only thing they agree on. Being a major talent. Darcy Carden is amazing.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Yes, and she's currently on Barry. She's always on multiple shows at the same time. She's also on The Good Place. The Good Place, of course. Broad City. Broad City. She was in something else I saw recently. What was she in?
Starting point is 00:11:24 Yeah, was she in yeah was she in the all nighter hold on now i want to check yeah now it's gonna bother me or i could just keep guessing um apocalypse now was she in that no oh killing it she's on an episode of killing it ah okay okay but the thing you might not know about darcy is that she is also a big fan of Late Night and Conan O'Brien. And she has become a real friend of the show in the last few years. Absolutely. And she became kind of a friend of Conan's even before she was on the show way back in New York. Some happenstance.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Yes. Different happenstance. I knew you were going to say happenstance. Happenstance. That's a real happenstance. Oh knew you were going to say happenstance. Happenstance. That's a real happenstance. Oh, boy. That's a bad sign. I know when Mike's going to use the word happenstance.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Well, anyway. And here is Darcy Carden. The first time I was on the show, I got a really nice gift bag that was like an orange suitcase. Does it sound familiar? It was like a really nice orange suitcase with all this orange stuff in it. This is the first time you were on the Conan show. Yeah. So, and it was like some booze and like an amp, maybe like a little tiny plug-in amp. I feel like that was meant for Conan, but they just re-gifted it to you. I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Wow. So what was the first year that you were on the show? You remember years? No. Well, no, I guess it doesn't have to be. So the first time I was on was something like 17 or 18. I truly don't remember any year after 9-11. I'm not kidding. I remember months and weeks and days before 9-11 and after it's all just like it all blurred it's all 2000 something our producer just said it's 28 it was 2018 yeah there you go and it was my um very first late night show oh wow oh that's so cool as soon as i said that i'm like is that true is that true that's okay we don't fact check things that's so cool. As soon as I said that, I'm like, is that true? Is that true? That's okay.
Starting point is 00:13:27 We don't fact check things. That's a fantasy we like to put forward here. So that must have been a real moment. I mean, as a comedian, as a performer, you're really coming full circle and becoming a guest on a talk show. Yeah. Majorly. But Conan in particular, if I may. You know what I mean? Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Yeah. Yeah, because you were a fit. You watched late night in high school. Was that your even before late night show? Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Since like junior high. For real. For real. Did your parents watch with you or were you staying up past bedtime to watch? My parents didn't not watch with me, but they they could, you know, sorry, Cone. They could like take him or leave him until later when they really started loving him. But yeah, it kind of felt like it was for me anyway,
Starting point is 00:14:08 not for them. Like, right. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. It was your little late night treat that you gave yourself. Yeah. It was specifically for you that only you could understand those squares. Don't get it. Exactly. Exactly. Being on the show was major, major, major. Cause late, you know, it is pretty like self-centered or narcissistic or whatever to be like, I want to be on a late night show. What is that desire? I'm not sure. Right. Right. But that definitely was. Like on your vision board.
Starting point is 00:14:36 From like the time I was pretty little, like, like that really meant something. You saw yourself, like you'd watch something like that and go, Oh, would you say that's going to be me someday or I could do that? I think it was like, I can't wait. I can't wait to do that. I wonder if that is necessary for, you know, for success. Because I do feel like you have to kind of visualize things in order to get them. You hear this over and over again about people who I'm guessing maybe there are tons of people who have that and then never do a late night show, but I don't know. Probably. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:11 But also I never visualize myself being on a late night show as a guest and I haven't been. Right. So maybe that's why. Yeah. No, but it does seem like it must be some sort of personality flaw or whatever you want to call it that like would make you want, cause it really is like, what is it? It's like, I want to be on a show where the host knows some stuff about me and asks me questions about my life. Like my interesting life is like very psychotic and everybody's looking at me and I'm not playing a character and I'm not acting and I'm not reading like lines that someone else wrote. I'm just like telling a little quip from my life. It's really not cool. It's like really, that is not a good trait. I disagree. And so when you were young, would you actually fantasize about what you would talk?
Starting point is 00:16:01 Like, was that an evolving thing? Like when you're in sixth grade, like'll talk about lunch i should have lunch period i should have i should have been like keeping a little be prepared for when they called yeah because then i bet when they did finally call you you were like i don't know i don't know what i'm going to talk about anything is is like and not that i truly not that i've been on so many but like when yes now that i think about it conan was my first and you tell a couple it's like okay you tell a couple of your best stories and then the second time you're on a late night show you still have a couple more and then by like the third or fourth you're out of stories you're talking about things that like happened last week or today yes it reminds me so much of like a band's like amazing debut album. And it goes, it's like a huge hit.
Starting point is 00:16:51 And then the next album is like, these are the songs that we wrote in the last, you know, six months. Right, right, right. As opposed to like the last 10 years. Yeah, exactly. And then the final one is like, we wrote these on the way to the recording studio. Yeah. I think back in the, in like the childhood fantasy late night days, it wasn't like, I can't wait to tell the story about like when I stuck a button up my nose. Actually, that's a good story. Yeah. Save that.
Starting point is 00:17:17 We'd love to hear that. I think also, you know, Conan in particular and David Letterman, both, they like, you really knew when they were like getting such a kick out of their guests. Right. Yeah. And like when the guest was like truly connecting with them or making them laugh or surprising them or whatever. And I think that was the thing that I was like,
Starting point is 00:17:36 I don't, I don't just want to like sit in the chair and like talk about whatever I want. I want to get them. Yeah. I want to, I want to get them. I want to like,
Starting point is 00:17:43 I want that belly laugh. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. So you had an even want that belly laugh. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. So you had an even higher bar for yourself. Truly. I like that. It was like, I want to kill on a late night show.
Starting point is 00:17:52 I cannot wait to kill. That was what it was. That's my most psychotic thought is I cannot wait to kill on a late night show. Not get an Oscar. You know what I mean? I can't wait to crack conan up and just bask in his you know just like five minutes of uninterrupted laughter from the audience yeah that's it that seems healthy to me that is the thing when you meet someone you really
Starting point is 00:18:15 admire in some way you want to impress them and oh yeah totally and yeah it's such it's so nerve-wracking because you're like do i play it cool or or sometimes it's like, it's so nerve wracking because you're like, do I play it cool? Or, or sometimes it's like, Oh God, I came on too strong. You know, it's like, you almost feel like you have one shot at it. I know. I know. Yeah. I bet people put a lot of pressure on themselves in those situations. It's hard probably not to.
Starting point is 00:18:38 I think that first one in particular I did, I was super nervous, so nervous. Like maybe, maybe my top nervousness, you know, in the top, in the top five nervousness. But really, I mean, this maybe sounds cliche, but like the second they were like, you know, the, the stage manager, that's not what it's called. Yeah. Like kind of gave me the stage manager. Great. Great. Gave me the like walk on stage sign. I felt so at ease. Wow. I really did. I didn't, I didn't feel nervous for like one second once I was on stage sign, I felt so at ease. Wow. I really did. I didn't, I didn't feel nervous for like one second once I was on stage, which is cool. That's amazing. Yeah. We've talked to other people about this, but that, yeah, I always would imagine that moment behind the curtain when
Starting point is 00:19:15 they're about to send you out. I, that seems like such a being at the top of a roller coaster. Yes. It's so dramatic to back out now. I can't get diarrhea and run away. There's literally two guys ready to part a curtain and push you out. It's hard to make it more dramatic than that. I know. It's so surreal. And you know, like you really, you know, especially being a fan of the show and knowing what the audience looks like and knowing what the stage looks like and the band and the whole thing. It's like, you know, I didn't do like a walkthrough or anything before. The first time you walk on the stage is like you're you're on live so i remember
Starting point is 00:19:48 just kind of being like um oh it's reversed from what i thought it was or something like i was like i feel like i'm in you know like opposite yeah yeah yeah right there should you're making me realize sweeney there should be like a temple grand and should invent a more ethical right entrance with blinders on so and then you take them off once you're in the chair yes yes yes as you head out to slaughter late night slaughter get on it temple come on temple did you ever think about like why the second went out there you're like hey you were totally relaxed because you'd been visualizing it well conan and andy are very welcoming and they were right i also felt like they weren't giving me the energy of like who the hell are you they were kind of like they had watched the good place and they were really making
Starting point is 00:20:32 me feel welcome immediately right and also i don't know who the hell are you you know what i mean that would be so rude of them who the hell are you what do you do why are you here sell yourself there's an apostrophe in your first name it doesn't make any sense you're old and kind of fat i didn't get any of that i didn't get any of that from them which was cool so i think also you know it was like conan was being conan conan was he's not an actor he's like it's the same guy that i had been watching for decade plus it was surreal but it was like oh this the same guy that I had been watching for decade plus. It was surreal, but it was like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:21:05 this is the guy that I've watched in my living room for forever. And he's just happens to be talking to me right now. You felt like you knew him already. A hundred percent. It is such a weird artifice though, to yes, you're having a conversation with these two nice guys or two guys that you kind of feel like,
Starting point is 00:21:23 you know, but then there's like 200 people there's an audience listening and cameras like that's totally that's bizarre that is so bizarre that's just weird i don't remember looking out very much so like you know the audience is there but i don't think you i didn't have much of a like awareness of them i also did you guys did either of you notice that you said two nice guys or two guys yeah you kind of like doubled back on that you really walked back the what the nice i did yeah yeah he used to be a lawyer so he needs to make sure that exactly defensible right yes i have a stenographer here i can just shook her head like you said nice
Starting point is 00:22:00 and i'm like okay that's going on the record i'll fix this on the run. Watch this. Well, I was wondering, Darcy, I mean, cause you, before you were on TV roles, you did a lot of stage performing improv with UCB, which is, I mean, probably one of the most terrifying things you can do is, is to have to go out and improvise for an audience. So I'm sure that at that point, you had just done that yeah so many times that you were like okay I at least am comfortable with with being on stage and having to come up with something to talk about I think that's totally that's it that I didn't really think about that because like to like being an actor on camera doesn't necessarily make you feel comfortable in that situation yeah but you're totally right that like you know having done
Starting point is 00:22:43 improv for the better half of my life like I I think you get into that situation where you're like, all you can go, all you got to do is be yourself and listen to what the person says and react to what the person says and you're going to be fine. You know? Yeah. So I think that's really good training. My combat training really kicked in, I guess. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Well, in your first Conan appearance, you talked about how you had crossed paths with him a bunch of different times in New York. Yeah. Like you knew him from restaurants, three different locations around town. Yeah. Like a piano class. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. I spent 10 or 11 years in New York and that's where I was like getting my, my comedy chops, my, my, my finding my, my comedy, you know, community and all that stuff. And, but performing at UCB, you get paid. Um, nothing negative. Yeah. Actually literally negative, right? Negative because you're paying for class. So, so you have to take all these, you know, a million jobs, which any actor in New York or LA is doing, of course. So the first time I met Conan I was working as a receptionist at a design firm a very sort of like devil wears Prada type of vibe too which I don't need to elaborate on maybe she's listening actually I don't care
Starting point is 00:23:57 did you have to dress up for work like you're high heels and a skirt suit 100% yeah oh wow yeah felt like I was wearing like a costume yeah it would be the thing, like when she would come to the office, everybody would be like, she's coming, she's coming, she's coming, she's coming, put on your lipstick, she's coming. So anyway, I worked at like a very, you know, fancy professional design firm where like really rich and famous people would get their houses and, you know, interior designed by this gal. Their fabrics.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Yes. Their fabrics. Yes, their fabrics. For the upholstery. My God, the fabrics. She would assemble their Ikea dresses. Exactly. At the office. That was my real job. She meant back.
Starting point is 00:24:37 It's a table. Oh, yeah. I was thinking it was a couch. Sure. So Conan's lovely wife was doing most of the work i would talk to liza on the phone every once in a while and i i loved her she was so you know like she really gave me the time of day you know what i mean like just on the phone she wasn't like right she was she was never rude she was always so nice and i you know kind of like i just really liked her right away right continue
Starting point is 00:25:02 to to this very day for one of the meetings liza brought conan in i'm like she brought this big puppy dog and his name was conan i don't know how interested he was in like all the design of it all but he was like either he recognized like a comedy like spark in my eye was he trying to do bits oh yeah he was totally trying to do this oh wow it was so i'm like i don't know if he recognized the little comedy spark in my eye or if he just this is how he is with every goddamn person but it was great and he also was so lovely and nice and and you know he i think like what you were saying before like obviously on on the conan stage this is my one chance i don't want to come on too strong i don't want to make him you strong. I don't want to make them, you know, whatever, whatever that feeling is. I had that in the office too, where I was like, I can't do the like, I'm a huge fan
Starting point is 00:25:50 and I've loved you since I was a wee child. I'm level three improv class. Level three. Well, yeah. So I just sort of gave him my best cool, cool, funny. Right. You know, he was doing some prop work. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:12 With the rug samples. Exactly. But the big one was when they were done. Liza said goodbye. Conan said goodbye. They walked out of my little front office, which had like a little doorway. And then Conan like popped his head back in and was like. Oh, you got a growl.
Starting point is 00:26:28 I was thrilled. I really recognize that noise. And I, it was a real, like, I know the audience, the listeners can't see me, but he did kind of like a, like a face and like a, like a pirate puss. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was great. They can probably imagine it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:41 They know it. They know it. They know it. Yeah. You must've been giving it up for it. You must have been laughing and stuff. So it's like, I need one. I've got to get out on one lap.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Exactly. I have to hear her laugh after I shut the door. Yes. That's exactly what it was. That will carry me to the car. Yes. Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Yeah. Carry me to the elevator and then I need to get the next one. Another laugh. Right. Then he rides the elevator until someone gets on. You get it. And then tries to get them to laugh so he can get off. Yes. Regardless of the floor. Shit, I have just walked nine floors on this staircase.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Stops at each level. Walks in some random office. Trolling for passengers. Yeah. Improv students. of office trolling for passengers yeah improv students the other one was i nannied bill hater and maggie carrie's children for many many many years oh wow wow and did you know him through comedy i knew maggie okay and i was sort of like the resident babysitter i was like the you know if any improv people were also parents i was like babysitting their kids so when their oldest daughter was a wee babe which is a great way to network
Starting point is 00:27:48 yeah for anyone listening truly who knew you want your kid back cast me as waitress number two exactly exactly yeah but uh conan's kids and bill and maggie's kids wait i'm trying to like think of the timeline of this it's all this was back this was when i was in la at this point so this was a few years after that okay they were in in piano class together so my husband and i went to the recital and and bill graciously introduced me to to conan and did you play it cool again i played it cool again right can you imagine i was like well we met we met one time i already know you yeah yeah i saw you pick fabrics i saw you pick fabric but I saw you pick fabrics.
Starting point is 00:28:25 But that is such a funny thing. Like, you know, I'm sure we've all experienced this and everyone listening has experienced this, whether it's like a famous person or whatever, where somebody, you meet somebody, it makes such an impression on you. You probably told your family, you've told your friends. If the name comes up, you tell the story. Oh, I met, I met him one time. And then you, you meet them or see them again.
Starting point is 00:28:43 And it's like, hi, nice to meet you. And you're like, yeah. And they say, hi, I'm Ben Affleck. And you're like, Oh, hi. Tell that story. I've never heard of you. Yeah. But he, but again, it was, was lovely and, and, um, always really nice out in the world. Oh, good. I like when famous people, you meet them and they just give their first name i know i just want to go uh and yeah ben who what's the last name make him say yeah yeah yeah yeah have to pretend you didn't just masturbate to them jesse jesse did you set up cameras in my house today early ben uh really gets me hot well you and all of us. I was curious because you were born and raised in California.
Starting point is 00:29:39 And yet, here you are in New York starting your comedy career. I'm curious what made you head east as opposed to going down to Los Angeles? Why do you hate LA? I went to school for theater and did theater, theater, theater, you know, for high and high school. And that was sort of my path. You know, I wanted to be on TV and do movies and stuff, but it was so like out of not, not like the realm of possibility,
Starting point is 00:30:05 but I just couldn't quite see it the way I could see theater. I did theater. I knew theater. I like, this was what I was currently doing. So anyway, so the idea of moving to LA and trying to get on TV and movies felt terrifying and, and foolish almost. So I thought I would just crack down on some theater in New York for a couple years, see what happened there. Crack down on some theater? Yeah, crack down on theater. I get it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:31 So, yeah. You were boning up on theater. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You do think in New York more just like that's where you go to pursue live theater. Yeah, yeah. But also I think the, I mean, L.A. to me, the first time I ever came out to LA, it terrified me.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I mean, the idea that it really is a company town and the, and just the vast, you know, showbiz comp, you know, industrial complex to me was kind of terrifying. Whereas New York, there's so many other things going on in New York that I think doing something creative or where you're a performer seemed like easier to pursue there. That's exactly it. Yeah. You know, everybody has a different path, but honestly, like I would recommend that, you know, I really liked kind of like getting my professional education in New York. I think my early 20s in L.A. would have been rough. Yeah. Whereas New York, I think my early twenties in LA would have been rough. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Whereas New York, I could kind of find my place. Well, it's nice when the path's a little clearer as opposed to like, oh, you could do infinite permutations of what you could do. And then it just feels all too overwhelming. And New York's very, I mean, it's just such a stimulating place to live, especially when you're in your twenties. I think you're just, I think things can happen to you much. I don't know. I never lived in LA in my twenties, but it seems like maybe you could get experienced a lot more faster. I think so too, which is good as a performer, you know, just life experiences. Yeah. And it was, yeah, it just was, it felt creative and crazy and
Starting point is 00:31:59 exciting. And you know, it's just that, I mean, la i'm gonna die in la i love it here okay but new york for 10 or 11 years in my 20s was that was the way to go it was like yeah that's the time to be there it seems like yeah did you ever go to a late night taping while you were there no i never did oh interesting you're like i'm saving it for honestly i do do that i do that a lot with things like. I'm not an audience member. Yeah, exactly. When I go, it'll be on the couch.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, God. So confident. You do that with a lot of things? How do you mean? Well, even thinking back to UCB days, there was like this one bar that you would go to after shows called McManus. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Do you remember that one? Yeah. It's like old, dingy, greatus. Right. Do you remember that one? Yeah. It's like old dingy, great bar. Right. And you know, UCB students get, become obsessed with the performers in a, like a very small microcosm weird world where you kind of like, can't see anything, but you become obsessed with UCB. So all the students, you know, we would, we would watch the shows and we would go to our class and we would do these little rehearsals and you just become obsessed and you would know you'd get to like hang out with the performers if you went to this one bar and i've i felt like i was the only one who sort of i just couldn't walk in there and
Starting point is 00:33:14 i really was like i can't go in there until i'm on a team yeah i get it you like had to keep church and state yeah exactly yeah yeah yeah it was yeah so um anyway you really wanted to feel like you belong there when you walked in exactly i i and and you weren't trying to be like a hanger on or or you just that would come and that was like a cool goal in a way probably right well and it worked yeah lucky me but i i did that with like manis mcman. I did it with waitressing too. Like if there was... I love telling people that I love their work. Right. But I also hate that feeling of... I hate that moment, that sort of fan moment where you're...
Starting point is 00:33:52 Where you're like, oh, I'm bothering you now. Yeah. Yeah. So when I was... I remember when I was a waitress, you know, cool people would come into the restaurant and I would be like, not now. This ain't it. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Oh, here's another one. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a real friend's head as as is every you know child of the 90s or whatever yes of course we were once at a snl after party years ago and this might have been a bill invite when i was like still his nanny and um somebody said jennifer hanniston is here and i looked at my husband and I said we have to go we have to leave now this is not you let you didn't want to see her in the way real life it
Starting point is 00:34:30 wasn't the right yeah then yeah and even that that's an after party is still a little like exclusive yeah you're still there you got invited but it felt more like I need I need it to be not until I'm starring in a feature with her. Not until we're like sitting down at a table read or something. Yeah. Not until we're on vacation in Greece together. Exactly. Exactly. Which again, along the lines of that, you know, late night talk show goal is psychotic and narcissistic and insane to be like, I'm not going to meet this person that I love right now.
Starting point is 00:34:59 I'm going to do it when we're equals. It's just. That's so interesting. But part of you thought, you know what? I'm working towards a goal where I will meet them in a more natural way where we're more on equal footing in some way. Yeah, absolutely. And again, it's that thing about picturing. It's like you're visualizing the goal and you don't want anything to mess with that visual that you have. Yeah, that's it totally so so did you meet
Starting point is 00:35:25 jennifer aniston i have yes i have met jennifer okay okay and and it was better the right way although not okay like me saying we're equals i it is impossible but it was an after after part it was a great it actually was a great introduction uh-huh may i yes yes god yes okay it was at the people's choice awards maybe like the right before the pandemic so 20 or 19 and this is actually conan related believe it or not i of course i presented even better i presented an award and i went backstage to the little kind of small green room and adam sandler was there with his lovely wife and we had met them at a conan christmas party oh wow and i'm a gigantic insane huge adam sandler fan and can barely you know it's it's he's he's you guys i know i'm sure know him well and and
Starting point is 00:36:22 i can anyway i can barely you know he's shy in real life and it's I just yeah yeah he's different than his character yeah but um his wonderful wife approached us which was so nice she didn't make us do the we've met before she just kind of came up and said hi yeah and Adam was great and we chatted for a bit and um and I was kind of like coming down uh having just been on stage and presented and i was like a little a little shaky and then jennifer came walks into the green room of course she and adam are great friends and adam introduces us he takes it upon himself there you go to introduce and she hey, I just saw you on stage.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Yeah. She doesn't do that. Like, I'm going to pretend that I don't. Yeah. Hey, I just saw you on stage. It was great. It was great. I wasn't good.
Starting point is 00:37:17 I didn't do a good job. I immediately said something along the lines of like, you know how you're saying like you push too hard or whatever. I think a cool thing is to just be like, nice to meet you can be sure if you want to say like love your work great right but right away the first thing i said was i just worked with lisa i just worked with lisa and she she kind of she kind of went like what oh like she was like i have to now figure out how you connected me yeah i have to keep it in the friend's world god like as if she had she probably knows 5 000 lisas and of course we all know which i mean but like yeah god it was really not she thought you meant lisa murkowski yes
Starting point is 00:37:58 exactly exactly her dog walker is named lisa but it was one of those ones where right after i was like damn it and also my jason my husband kind of like um yeah he kind of like touched my hand and was like cool cool time to go oh does he does he uh give you little signals that way like in like a like a sure not you know not like the shut up dar Darce. Just kind of like, you can... Just like, get back to your body right now. Take a deep breath. Get out, get out, get out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get out, get out, get out.
Starting point is 00:38:30 He knows you so well. So he's like, I don't want to... I'm going to stop you from doing something you'll regret. Yes, yes. Knows what she means to me. Like, he really was, he was great. But I did, we did... Luckily, there was a photographer right there,
Starting point is 00:38:41 a guy that had taken a bunch of pictures of the good place over there. So I don't know if he could like read my mind or what, but he said, can I get a picture of you two? It was really great. It was a great night. That's great. That's so funny that you brought them both up. Cause I just spent three months doing on set punch up for a movie that they're in. They were my whole world. Oh, I can't wait to see it yeah it's it'll be it's gonna be on netflix and how fun to get to do punch up for them i know totally so and do either do either of them like or dislike getting things thrown at them on the spot uh i think that he likes it he really
Starting point is 00:39:19 likes being getting new like a bunch of new things and then she likes to have it way in advance and think about it yeah it's so and they're both you know truly comedic geniuses like for real yes truly and their chemistry is unbelievable and watching them together is so fun but it is but they're so their their process is just very different so it's like okay you have to plan like two days in advance to send things to jen but then adam don't send it until like he's in the car on the way to the shoot. Until you've wrapped. Yes, basically.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Well, bringing it back, I was curious, what's your experience been with working with segment producers for late night appearances? Like how, can you sort of walk us through how that goes?
Starting point is 00:39:58 Yeah, that's funny. It's, and I'm sure you guys talk about this a lot, but I'll just, you know, if you haven't been on a late night show, you wouldn't necessarily know this, that it's, it's, you know, you get, you, you talk to the segment producer a couple of days before you're on and, you know, they, they basically say like, do you have anything interesting going on in your life? Do you have anything,
Starting point is 00:40:17 any fun stories lately, anything you want to talk about? And they're usually like, it's fine if you don't, we'll, we'll, we've got, you know, we've got things ready to go. But if there's anything that you want to talk about. So does anyone ever say, no, I have nothing. I want to know what they have ready to go. I know. I know. I have never said I don't have anything to talk about.
Starting point is 00:40:37 So I am here. I mean, I'm curious what would come up, you know, if I'm like, I don't know. Yeah. I actually, I do keep a little note section of my phone. That's really smart. Yeah. This is stupid. Again, we're on a podcast.
Starting point is 00:40:52 So why would I show you this? You can show us. Because they can't see it. Please show us. But it says ideas for talk shows. Ooh, yeah. Oh, great. So I just keep, because I'm really bad at remembering stories right i'm bad at
Starting point is 00:41:06 remembering jokes and i just i just don't have i'm not a great i'm not great at this so if i think of something in the middle of the night or whatever i just jot it down um and then i and then i put a check mark next to it when i've told it on a show oh good i don't i don't delete it don't reuse yeah i don't delete it because then i'll forget that i ever told it and tell it again but oh yeah yeah so i just sort of um go through that and say we could talk about this we could talk about that i i read or heard somewhere that tom hanks who's like such a good talk show guest right he's amazing he always comes prepared and he never i don't i mean you guys would maybe know better, but like he never, um, says like, Oh, whatever. We'll just shoot the shit. He always has something prepared,
Starting point is 00:41:48 which I think, um, I don't think they all do at that level. Right. You can. Yeah. And you can tell. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. So it's really fun. You know, that conversation is always really fun and it's, you can really tell when, when the segment producer is into the thing that you said, they're like you can just feel them you know writing and typing it out okay great the the the hard part like is okay so you have this great conversation you tell some stories they're like great we got what we need we'll see you on the day what do they say when they they're not into it are they just like uh yeah just quiet yeah we could we could talk about that yeah it's like if you want that could work
Starting point is 00:42:23 huh what else i mean it's your appearance yeah yeah yeah i did tell and you can also feel it when you're telling it like i i remember writing something down about some uh what felt in the moment like a really funny little right you know kristen bet we were at a party and kristen bell ran into like one of the actors from peaky blinders and right in the moment was so funny and as i'm telling the story i'm like oh god this would die on stage this is nothing this is nothing yeah and you could feel her be like what else you got what else happened at that part yeah yeah but the uh the the funny thing is like so you get to the studio and you're getting your little hair and makeup done and they bring sort of like a a script i'm ripping my pants as we speak i just ripped a huge
Starting point is 00:43:09 hole in my pants it's kind of cool actually cool i should yeah okay hold on ready which is like with your finger yeah oh oh wow that is a great hole that is a quality keep going oh my god oh my these are like tearaway pants. Oh, no. Oh, no. Now I feel bad. I hope you have a backup pair. This is our fault.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Anything for a laugh. Right? Yeah. Make them laugh. Rip your pants. Save that for your next late night appearance. Oh, great idea. Great idea.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Yes. Yes. That's a good one. You can do that on the couch. Make a note on your phone. Damn, that's a good one. Oh, wait. Actually, that did just trigger something. Thank you. Okay. That's a good one. Make a note on your phone. Damn, that's a good one. Oh, wait. Actually, that did just trigger something.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Thank you. Okay. Write it down. We'll wait. Pause. I'm not kidding. I'm going to say the thing, but not explain the story. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Okay. I'm going to say, milk out of mouth to make mom laugh. Okay. Great. Wow. Okay. Okay. So we were. Okay. Okay. So we were talking about.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Oh, yeah. So then they hand you a script. That's sort of like note, note form that the things that they'll probably going to. Of what you said. Yeah. Yeah. But the funny thing that I have to stop doing is then I read the script like as if I'm memorizing lines. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:22 But I am the one who told the story. I'm the one who said the story. Right, right, right. It's your life. So it's like, I have to remind myself to like, just tell the story the way I would tell the story, not like try to remember these like note form,
Starting point is 00:44:33 you know, script. But now it's written, it's the written word all of a sudden. I know, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, you get out there and Conan like sets you up
Starting point is 00:44:42 and you just have to sort of take the cue. Knock him down. Yeah. It's pretty damn fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Once I mean, once you put in the work on the front end.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Yeah. That does seem really fun. Yeah. But that's, I think, the thing that like with everything in life that if you want it to go well, you kind of have to prepare more than you think you need to. Totally. if you want it to go well you kind of have to prepare more than you think you need to totally right and there is this weird sort of like improviser uh mentality which i struggle with which is like you can't say the same funny thing twice you know yeah which which is hard on set i get that well you feel like everyone else is keeping track i'm like oh you already you oh that one again which is so funny because like right if it was written you
Starting point is 00:45:25 would say it 50 times yeah right twice but if you improvise something and then they say to do it again you're like oh because you own it yeah and it just feels so cheap or something so right even though you're like great let's get the funniest thing of course but there is that little thing that i i struggle with with talk shows which is like, do I have to switch it up from the way that I know? Just tell the damn story. How has it been being on being a Conan podcast guest now
Starting point is 00:45:53 that there's no TV show? That's probably a little more improv-y honestly, then like, do you come with stories or think of stories? I don't think I really thought of stories in advance on that one. He really set them all up. I don't think that was like a, I don't think we had a pre-conversation for that. I love the Ponen podcast. I literally almost just said. You just said it. It should be called that. Or the Cobcast. It's more memorable. Wow. The Cobcast.
Starting point is 00:46:20 I love that. I listen to his podcast all the time. He has the best guests and it's such a, it's always so fun. And he gets to, to just, you know, be himself. Yeah. No time limit. The top and the bottom. Yeah. It's, it's like, it feels generous for, for Conan lovers. Right. I would love really quick if, if you have another second.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Yeah. Can you tell us anything about League of Their Own? Hmm. Hmm. Yes, I can. You can tell us anything about A League of Their Own? Hmm. Hmm. Yes, I can. You can tell us it exists. It exists. We started filming, we filmed the pilot pre-pandemic. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Oh, wow. Can you believe? This is the A League of Their Own TV show. That will be on Amazon, written and produced by the Abby Jacobson. Oh, great. Of the broad city world. I love her. Yeah. Big fan. Incredible.
Starting point is 00:47:10 And you know, we, very funny not to take it back to UCB, but Abby and I met in an, in a UCB class and like, you know, I don't know, pre 2010, we've known each other for a really long time.
Starting point is 00:47:20 And post nine 11, post nine 11, somewhere in whatever that little chunk is. Exactly. And I remember we were taking, you you know usually you asked me about legal for their own and look at what i'm doing um usually you would take just like i said before level one level two level three whatever but occasionally they would offer these weird little like you know writing for the for the whatever for late night or or you know yes offer these little classes And one was like comedy acting for commercials
Starting point is 00:47:45 or something that I took. And that's where- That's actually really useful. It was, yeah. And that's where I met Abby. And I remember thinking, having this like, this kind of fucked up thought, which is like, God, she is so incredible.
Starting point is 00:47:59 And no one in this room sees it except for me. Like I really see her. You get it you get it yeah exactly and then she becomes like this gigantic star right right right turns out some other people some other people's yeah one or two yeah but we've you know i i got to be on broad city here and there but we've really wanted to work together for years so this so right after good place ended uh-huh i you know i i knew she was making this she was like darcy's only on one show now i have to yeah right yeah but um i'd known she had she was making league of their own for it for quite a while and i was always hoping that like maybe i could be you know in an episode play on the other team or something at some point i kind of had no idea that i could
Starting point is 00:48:45 really be on it so it and i played baseball as a kid so this was like that's what i was wondering i was wondering about oh so you must love this is there real yeah like is there real gameplay in it is oh that sounds great yeah yeah um we yeah we we trained for literal months we had oh wow that is so fun we had three practices a a week for months and months before we started shooting. And then, you know, yeah, a lot of the stunts are stunt people, but still. Sure, sure. Well, is that the first role you've had to do like a special training for? You know, there's like one cool episode of Good Place where I got to have this like battle, this fight where I like fought all these demons.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Right. And that was amazing. That was like, I, I, um, the fight choreographer, Jeff Amada,
Starting point is 00:49:33 who did like some of the born movies, he was, he came in and did this like network TV show. And we practiced in, you know, rehearsed for weeks. That was incredible. That was like one of the coolest experiences of my life.
Starting point is 00:49:45 But since that, I haven't gotten to do a lot of stunts or sports. And I've been waiting for it. I'm going to say you played first base. I did. There you go. Wow. I do and I didn't. Because you're tall.
Starting point is 00:49:55 I'm tall. Yeah, I got the stretch. Yeah. So you're first base all the way. I'm doing it again. You're ripping your other leg. Oh, my God. No, it's just like a leg warmer. Oh, yeah. There you go. You're ripping your other leg. Oh my God. No, it's just like a leg warmer.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Oh yeah, there you go. They're like baseball socks for your uniform. I got cast to play a baseball player before World War II named Moe Berg, who played in Japan and helped spy on the Japanese prior to World War II. I got cast in that for a television show in Japan. For a Ken Burns documentary? Yeah. No, no.
Starting point is 00:50:29 It was a Japanese show and I had to learn Japanese and I had to play baseball, practiced for it. I was terrified because they had all these extras dressed in period. And they had someone from like double A yankees team pitching to me and he was a really great pitcher and i hadn't played baseball since little league right right right and i just remember the director getting he was standing out behind the pitcher and he spoke to someone who could translate and and the translator was like mike he wants you to hit the ball i'm like a motherfucker that's what i've been trying to do and oh my god stop intentionally missing great direction really good i was terrified
Starting point is 00:51:16 and i'm so bad in it that like when i my kids are old enough to show them, it's, it's a family. It's yeah. Oh my God. It's cherished in my family. My sisters, everyone just laughs hysterically about how bad I am. It is having to like perform in front of extras is the same as having to perform in front of an audience. It's like, it can be really embarrassing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Especially because those people all want to do what you're doing and they're like, all right's see what you got this is it yeah that's what you're getting paid for right right any other conan memories that we didn't get to or things i know i mean the screen i don't know if we need to just like kiss conan's ass on this podcast i don't think that's the point i don't have to i know no i know that but it's sort of the opposite. I really do. Like I have, I know, I know. I do like to. We'll edit it out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is just for you guys. I really, the way Conan has sort of like taken me under his wing a little bit
Starting point is 00:52:13 has like really meant a lot to me. And the fact that I have all the history of loving him for so long and him sort of like shaping my comedic brain and you guys too. I mean, like the writing staff and everybody sort of showing me like what is funny. That aside, he really has made me feel comfortable in this business and, you know, has really made it very clear that like, if I need anything, if I have any questions,
Starting point is 00:52:40 like he's just, he's been wonderful. Well, and that you're on the right path and that you belong. Yeah. Yeah. These roles. Yeah. He's lovely. He really has treated me and my husband, Jason, so well.
Starting point is 00:52:53 And, and, um, you know, happy to hear that. Oh, that's great. I love him. No, obviously he sees something in you and, you know, you, you played it right. You just played it right. I played it right in that office all those years ago. You know what? But I think he also believes like in destiny and this and that and even even just randomly running into you three times in new york like i mean like just as it meant something
Starting point is 00:53:15 to you i think that means something to him in reverse i totally agree yeah absolutely yeah yeah yeah he does have me occasionally like at the last last Christmas party. He had me tell a group of people. He's like, tell them how we met. Tell them. Right, right, right. You're not going to believe this. Right, right, right. He's very into astrology, too.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Very mystical. Yeah, what a little witch. He's such a freaky little witch. He is, man. I'm going to start calling him a witch. Yeah, freaky little witch. He is, man. I'm going to start calling him a witch. Yeah, freaky little witch. I love that.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Freaky. It's so lovely to see you both and talk to you both. Yes, it's so nice to meet you. Thank you, Darcy. You're amazing. And I'm a big fan. Yes, me too. Ditto, ditto.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Thank you. All right. Well, thank you, Darcy. She's so great. She just makes me happy. She's terrific. She makes you, Darcy. She's so great. She just makes me happy. She's terrific. She makes me laugh. Yeah, she's very funny.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Maybe you'll run into her at your vegan butcher shop. Yeah, I hope so. Yeah. She seems like she's open. And we are open for business with a listener question. That's right. This is from Stephanie W. Her surname isn't W.
Starting point is 00:54:24 It starts with the letter W. It's W period. Exactly. Hi is from Stephanie W. Her surname isn't W. It starts with the letter W. It's W period. Exactly. Hi, Jesse and Mike. Ever since this came up in an early episode of your podcast, I've been wondering what happened to all the neckties that Conan wore one time and then never again. That's right. Conan would wear a tie a night and then it was put away in a closet. Did they end up being donated?
Starting point is 00:54:50 Did they end up going to a Thai sanctuary upstate? Love your show, Stephanie W. Oh, that's a good question, Stephanie. Thank you for keeping us honest. Yeah, she's held onto that question for a long time. Cause that was a while ago. Yeah. We did a expose. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:10 We, we were stunned cause each tie was like a $200 tie and it was one show and done. And then it went, we're put into it like a closet closet in our studio and just filed away essentially like the end of yes raiders of the lost ark exactly and somehow we stumbled upon this terrible secret and uh exposed it and then then we started giving away some of the ties we did we did at our live shows we gave away the ties
Starting point is 00:55:40 and and we gave you all the info like what what night it was worn, who the guests were. It's like, well, stripes, more stripes. They were very, I think it was like, hey. Different size stripes. Look at me, I'm on TV type of ties, right? Yeah, but without being fun. I mean, they weren't like Snoopy or anything. There weren't any characters that would have the license.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Well, to be fair, we didn't go through all we did 3 000 ties there might have been some snoopy well anyway we had no idea we thought this is a really good question so i emailed scott chronic who um are you know uh costume he was our costume designer and in charge of that department and along with our old friend bruce brumm. I think Bruce's priority was more dealing with Conan's wardrobe every night for the show. Right. But Scott informed us that all those ties when the show ended got packed up and put in storage.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Okay. So they went from one storage to another storage. They're in North Hollywood. They're in a storage unit. So we know the neighborhood, North Hollywood. They're in a storage unit. So we know the neighborhood, North Hollywood, which seems like a, that seems like the right neighborhood
Starting point is 00:56:49 to store ties. That might be a little loud. It's the number one tie storage. Yeah. Facility. So I don't know what any, what do we do with this information? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:59 I don't know. I kind of, I like the idea that maybe they'll just stay there until somebody dies and then it'll be like storage wars and they have to auction off the storage unit and someone will be like, oh, what kind of treasures are going to be in here? And then it's hundreds of thousands of ties. I want to know who has to die to get all of Conan's stuff and storage released to the public. I guess Sirius.
Starting point is 00:57:23 And how do we expedite that? Does Sirius own the ties? Oh my God. Does Sirius Radio own all those ties now? That's a really good question. Maybe that's what they really were after. That was their long game. They were like, yeah, Conan's podcast is great.
Starting point is 00:57:37 We love it. But the real money is in ties. We love Sona and Matt Gourley, but there are thousands of ties. Gotta get our paws on those ties. I wonder if Stephanie W W works for Sirius. Stephanie, Sirius, W. I think you cracked it.
Starting point is 00:57:54 XM is an upside down W. Oh my God. Now you have actually cracked it. What if ties are like the new beanie babies? Oh, you know what? I was going to say, let's figure out something to do with the ties. I don't want to do anything with those ties. When we were giving them away, I
Starting point is 00:58:14 went through a bag of them, and I was just like... Yeah, it was fun the first few, and then... Yeah. No, then it's just like having a bag of eels in your office. Garish eels. They're under, they're a little underwhelming. Let's just leave them in storage.
Starting point is 00:58:30 And I would tell Stephanie to tune into season 53 of Storage Wars to find out who wins them in a bidding duel. The most disappointing haul. Okay, well, this has been an amazing show, and we're going to try to find out more details about this whole series. Everything, yeah. Okay. Yeah, you have to keep us posted on the... The butcher shop? The vegetarian butcher shop.
Starting point is 00:58:58 That is hard news coming out of the east side of LA. I know. Oh, wait, we need to ask for more questions. Oh, yes, please. Please more questions. It can be about ties. It can be about Conan's socks.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Yeah. Underwear, anything. We're wide open. We'll investigate. We'll get you answers. Did Conan ever have to wear a, like an American flag pin? Did he ever have to?
Starting point is 00:59:23 I just, you know, there's occasions where you have to wear them. Wait, I'm trying to think of what, like going to the Super Bowl or something? I don't know. I guess going to the White House or, yeah, I don't know. Right, right, right. When we're at war. When we're at war. I don't know if he's ever worn an American, that's a good question.
Starting point is 00:59:41 You should write into the show. You know what? That's the only way to get this question answered. And we'll investigate it. Okay. Well, and when I do write in, I'm going to use our email, I think. Oh, why don't you tell us about that? It's insideconanpod at gmail.com. But you know what? I might not use the email. I might make a phone call and leave a voicemail. Yes, you can leave a voicemail right at...
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