Inside Conan: An Important Hollywood Podcast - Matt O’Brien & Meghan Sinclair Revisit Their CONAN Romance

Episode Date: April 29, 2022

Head writer Matt O’Brien and show photographer Meghan Sinclair join Mike Sweeney and Jessie Gaskell to discuss their courtship at 30 Rock, the early days of CONAN on TBS, chasing Gary Busey with a blimp, and explaining to their kids why Dad is in a Batman porno sketch.Got a question for Inside Conan? Call our voicemail: [phone] and e-mail us at [e-mail]

And now it's time for Inside Conan, an important Hollywood podcast. Welcome back to Inside Conan, an important Hollywood podcast coming to you from actual Hollywood. Yes. Hollywood adjacent. We're in a podcast studio. We are. And so we can say our names.

Right into the microphone. This incredible equipment. I'm Mike Sweeney. I'm Jesse Gaskell. And this is Inside Conan, where we're kind of doing a big overview this season of Conan's late night career, spanning the years 93 to question mark. No, to last year.

To infinity. And beyond. And we are, it's our first time recording in the new Team Coco podcast studio. Yes, this is unbelievable. It's beautiful. The first time you and I have seen each other in three months. I know, the first time I've seen you from the waist down. Oh, I hope you like what you see.

That's why I wore shorts. You got some great gams. Thank you very much. I guess you're allowed to talk to me like this. I am, but not the other way around. Well, you know, I'm glad we're in this new building because I'm assuming there's an HR department here as well. You would assume that because it looks like that kind of building, i don't think there is a file well you only have this recorded audio as evidence wait did you only mention my thighs what about my calves oh no the calves looked good too

a lot of definition thank you you know i'm swimming i'm working on it studio's awesome yo this this uh this thinking about my legs would like to spend the night here i think oh no this studio is amazing yeah my first reaction was this is way too nice yes i thought it would be a claustrophobic yeah it feels weird how nice it is yes and how not messed up everything is there's a beautiful new table that i i know we've been trying to scratch it up i know other people i don't want to be the one to draw first blood here so i stuck my gum underneath it oh good excellent and there are amazing 4k cameras everywhere capturing our every move in

high definition that's that is that's a real deal breaker for me. I know. This is the first time I've put on makeup to do our podcast. And we had to leave our homes. Yeah. It's very strange. Very strange. And our producer and engineers are here. This is great. Hello. We can see the life draining out of their faces. Yeah, it's really nice. Conan's office is right above us.

Yes. Yeah. I'm assuming he can tap in any point he wants to. Sure. He's not here today. He's not here. No, that's why we got to park in his parking spot. I know. I know. It's we have to, can we only schedule our podcast when he's not here? Yeah. So we can park under the building and record without fear of somebody kicking the door down. Oh my God. Well, we can lock it from the inside, right? It does feel like a panic room in here. That's, you know, I'm going to make a punch list for this room. We need a deadbolt on the inside because he'll just badger someone for the keys. So we need a Conan deadbolt. We just found out you and I are both doing the same Zoom punch up.

Yes. Tomorrow. Round table tomorrow. I've never done something like that. I've lived in a cocoon. I literally worked for Conan. This is unheard of in Hollywood. You've had one job for 20... How many years? I'm like one of those kids who's been kept in a...

Literally homeschooled and maybe left in a basement dungeon for 20... I'm going to be blinking tomorrow and hearing other people... You're like Kimmy Schmidt. basement dungeon for Twitter. And I'm like, I'm going to be blinking tomorrow and hearing other people. You're like Kimmy Schmidt. Yeah, exactly. Talking and laughing. I'll be like, strange creatures.

Yeah, so that, but you've done some of this. What do you call it? Table punch up? Round table, yeah. So, can you describe what that is? I mean, sometimes movies want a group of comedians to come in and just do like a day of brainstorming. Right. And they might have areas that they think, oh, we could, maybe there's a better joke for this in the script.

It might even be like a full story note where it's like, we need a new character turn and act two. All right. And then act two. All right. And then we brainstorm. All right. Wow. And then I hope we take a lunch. I don't know. A lunch.

Over Zoom. I'm not sure. Oh, right. It's going to be on Zoom. It's like they already did the hard part of writing the whole script. So you just get to come in and put the little cherry on top. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Exactly. Hopefully. Yes. Yeah. Well, I know. And then it's fun. You get to watch the movie and see if they kept in your jokes. Right. Hopefully. Yes. Yeah, well. I know. And then it's fun. You get to watch the movie and see if they kept in your jokes in.

Right, right, right. That's how they get people to watch it. Yeah. There's going to be at least five watchers. Let's get 8,000 people to do Punch-Up. 8,000 times $18 a ticket. It's cheaper than doing publicity. Yeah. You go to the Burbank AMC 16 and it's all the people who did the punch up and they're not laughing at anything no no except their own joke should we introduce our guest today let's introduce our guest he was on once before he was a long time ago a long time ago where we talked about his duties as head writer on conan at tbs today, we're going to explore some other areas with him.

Yes, including his love life. Exactly. Which I'm excited about. Because that all unfolded... On Conan. Yes. Yes. Like we mentioned, there was not a nature department.

No, no, no, no. But you know what? I think even under today's stringent nature, our rules... I think this one would pass muster. It would pass muster because they worked in very different departments. Separate shows initially. Yeah. And then separate departments.

Right. Same under the NBC umbrella. Right. And it became must see each other. Oh, God. Oh, no. That's the worst thing I've ever heard. You know what? I should have saved that for the punch-up tomorrow. That's the pull quote, yes. Right now they're like crossing my name out on a list. Must see each other.

Okay. No, Mike Sweeney. So without further ado, here's the must see each other couple. Matt O'Brien and Megan Sinclair. Thanks for doing the podcast, man. Finally, we're getting to the show that most diehard Conan fans want to talk about.

The TBS years. That's right. The TBS years. Especially the older ones. I grew up watching your TBS show, is what everybody says. Yeah, that's right. You were just merely a writer on the show at that point. A peon, a mere writer.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. But I'm sure you were privy to some of the early brainstorming sessions. Yeah, I think The Tonight Show had ended, you know, just about a year earlier. So some of that energy had carried over into the TBS show in terms of a longer monologue up top and some videotape pieces in the monologue were kind of holdovers from the would do, you know, three or four jokes. It'd be a short monologue and then he'd go over to the desk. But I do remember the TBS show, if you watch the early episodes, he would do sometimes 10 jokes up top. And then that just started to contract year over year throughout the TBS show. Until it was just one gif. Him touching his nipple. we're good mono's good so i do remember the early days of tbs the top of the show resembled the tonight show a little bit or what we were doing on the tonight

show a little bit then he kind of started to just shake some of that energy off and and it started to i think uh revert back to some of the stuff we did on late night, more sketch heavy. We would still do quick videotape pieces up top during the monologue, but we weren't searching for like 10 jokes to kill time up top. Can you maybe set the table for us coming off of the tour that Conan did, the legally prohibited from being on television tour? Sure. What was the energy like? You guys set up a studio at Warner Brothers and office spaces. And what were those first days like for the staff? I think it was actually a really great moment in Conan's career is he had just,

you know, the Tonight Show had sort of gone away unexpectedly. And I think he had a lot of people in his corner. A lot of his fans came out in support of him. He had this wild... Yeah, new Twitter fans. New Twitter fans. He had his wildly successful tour that sold out, you know, in whatever it was, 25 cities.

Yeah, it was sort of this pretty cool moment in his career where he had lost this huge platform, but gained all of this support and enthusiasm from his fans as a trade-off so the tbs show i remember when it launched was there was a ton of excitement around it because he was sort of still this people's hero yeah and it all happened pretty quickly after the tour ended because the tour ended in june we were on the air november november Something, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Wow. I think we took July off.

And then it was like, okay, yikes. I think it was August, September, October, working on the new show. I remember Conan specifically wanting to, you know, we made jokes about what had happened and how we had ended up here in TBS. But I know he didn't want to dwell on it. He didn't want to mine it for comedy over and over again. So he certainly... But there were plenty of basic cable, including the band being named the basic cable band. Totally. He didn't ignore the situation, but he didn't want to be seen as dwelling on it. And I don't blame him. I don't think it was good for anybody if the show was just about that. So I do remember

there was a ton of excitement for him to get kind of back up on the horse after he'd had this really kind of exciting couple of months doing this tour. And one thing was, it was like his first time away from NBC. Exactly. And a lot of people are like, oh, you know, you're not going to be able to do any of your old characters. But I kind of feel like on The Tonight Show, we already kind of had that mindset of, oh, you know what? Let's try to come up with new stuff and not dwell on the late night stuff. I do remember some of the stuff that we were talking about, whether or not we could or couldn't use.

The stuff was so inane and stupid. He was sort of excited at the fact that NBC would sue him. Oh, right. For using a masturbating bear or something, you know, or, or you mean if he,

if he crossed that line and they had like, he wanted to see it in the court transcript. Exactly. And journalists had to, had to write about the court case. I mean, yeah, he had that joke with the walker texas ranger yes lever where we had to stop doing it because yeah the actors on

that show were going to file a complaint he goes i'd love it if he goes oh i'd love it if they did that because they'd have to prove they were actors uh yeah so i think there was a little of that, which was, uh, we'll, we'll use the stuff that we still feel like makes sense to use, but yeah, we weren't gonna, you know, kayak guy was probably not going to make the move to TBS, um, you know, that kind of thing. So I do think that the spirit of his sort of like we're on basic cable. No one gives a shit now. Yeah. That makes his show better and always has.

It's the same with the 1230 show. No one's watching. It's sort of this buried piece of TV real estate that we can kind of do what we want. Right. And I think a little of that started to come back into the TBS show because the Tonight Show, when you were on at on at 11 30 and it was you know sort of this storied institution yeah i think it was it was a kind of he had to thread a needle a little bit sometimes well and there was probably a lot more network oversight at the tonight show there was that i mean when you started at tbs where was the idea just like conan has carte blanche to do whatever he wants? Yes, I do remember that was said over and over again.

They were very, Steve Coonan, who was running TBS at the time, it was very low-key operation. He was literally just, you got the impression he truly was in charge of TBS. And it was kind of his fiefdom. And he was just like, we want you, we love you, and we want you to do whatever you want. Yep. And at the time when Conan had been dealing with affiliates

and all sorts of, like you said, interference from the network and sort of part of that machinery, I think he loved the idea of someone just saying, you know what, why don't we just get out of the way and let you do your show? And I think that was part of the appeal.

And they also, in the summer before they advertised the living shit out of that show, there was a blimp. There was clips before every time we went and saw a movie, you know, in a movie theater, the pre-movie advertising, there was a big commercial of him driving off a cliff. And, you know, I actually thought it was a really kind of exciting time for him. Yeah. Yeah. Whose idea was the blimp? Was that, did that come from you guys or?

No, that might have come from TBS. Yeah. Because they, well, they had Major League Baseball at the time. Yeah. And so. They were like, we got this blimp if you want it. Yes. They said, we have this blimp that we've been waiting to use for 30 years.

Right. Right. I went up in the blimp. We shot some stuff of him in an actual blimp. Oh, you did? And I went up, we went down to Carson,

California where the Goodyear blimp is stored. Yes. And I was like, oh my God, I'm going to be in a blimp. And then you just go straight up and you're it's possibly the most underwhelming experience it's like being on the third story of a building and looking down it's like okay we shot a thing where the conan blimp was stalking gary bucey

right and i remember gary bucey participated right right? Oh yeah, he did. He loved it. Or was he just always running away from blimps anyway? I think the idea was that, exactly. He was paranoid about the blimp or any blimp. But I remember when we shot, we shot with him along the coast and he was yelling at the pilot to get the blimp lower, almost like he wanted to be face-to-face with the blimp to yell at it. And they got it just mere feet above the Pacific Ocean. Wow. And I thought, it's possible this could be it for the blimp,

with Gary Busey yelling at the humanity. Wow. The new Hindenburg. Yes. Starring Gary, Gary Busey yelling at the Conan blimp. I am stunned by this. Wait,

foot. I always remember that footage. I forgot that it was literally shot by the camera on the blimp. Cause I, I wasn't there. So the blimp came way down by the, the water. I couldn the blimp. Yeah. Because I wasn't there. So the blimp came way down by the water. I couldn't believe that. Yeah.

Because. Wow. The pilot was. It sounds illegal. Very gutsy. He just kept going lower, lower, lower. He wanted to meet Gary Busey. He was just a big show.

Jake Busey was the pilot of the blimp. Yeah, exactly. All right, dad. Wow. This sounds like a B movie. Jake Busey was the pilot of the blimp. Yeah, exactly. All right, Dad. Wow, this sounds like a B-movie. But you know what? He was right. In the end, it was better for the piece. Yes.

Gary knows. He knows. Got the shot. It's not his first blimp piece. No. Oh, one thing that we've gotten questions about are the episode titles from the early TBS show episodes. Yes.

Do you guys know why that happened? That was actually my bad idea. I think everybody liked that idea at first. Yeah. And some of them were really funny. Yeah, it was a throwback to like 70s TV. Every episode had a title and it would show up on your... Sort of that police squad. It was a

parody, exactly, of 70s, like, Tonight's... Or the FBI, like, Tonight's Episode, you know. Yeah. A bridge too close. Like the one where Conan's nipple gets... Right. But then... Rubbed. They started listing the titles, like, on

the website or somewhere. So it just kind of, they started to sow confusion a bit because people are like, wait, which one do I, it's nothing like that. Yeah. Right.

Right. So, and, and you know, about Baba black coffee, you know, or whatever, who would write those?

All the writers. We'd all just, all the writers. It was like an extra little thing you had to do. I don't know if anyone... I don't think anyone missed it. Well, people have asked about it, so I think somebody did miss it. There you go. That's interesting.

Are you sure it's not someone from the inside asking about that? Yeah. It could be. How much pressure were you all feeling in those early TBS days? I mean, especially after the network had done all this promotion for the show what was the first week of shows like i mean sweeney's you could you could probably speak to this too i i remember we we had had a lot of time over the summer and we

we had a lot of ammo built up yes so we had that we had a really good cold open that we had shot. And I think we had Forte on the Buffalo that first week. Oh, yeah. That was right out of the gate. Right out of the gate. And that was your bit. It was. That was your bit. It was.

We talked to Will Forte. That's right. Yes. He said how much he loved working with you. Oh, my God. That guy is just. He's great. He is the best.

And then, you know, we had also had some remotes that we built up. You know, I think that standards remote was, I think, that first or second week, which is a classic. Yeah. Conan meeting the head of TBS standards. Yep. Who was a real guy. You know, he just happened to be kind of the perfect foil for Conan. You know, just being very natural and matter of fact about what the rules were.

Had that come up from getting notes from this guy or how, do you remember? I think the idea was that now that we're on cable, what can or cannot we get away with? Right, right, right, right. Yeah, it's going to be much looser here than networked. And we had, did McCann come in wearing like an ice diaper or a fishbowl?

Yes, like Brian McCann came in, like Conan would test him with like, well now what if, you know, we brought this costume on the show. Yeah.

Brian McCann, who's hilarious. Saunters in. Saunters in. Does he tie his shoe, bends over to tie his shoe on the way out or I can't remember.

Yes. Like just putting his ass in the man's hand. Yeah. The guy's face. Classic McCann move. Well, hey, we're hearing a laugh back there, and I think maybe it's time to bring in Matt's better half. Yeah, finally.

And Matt's built-in audience. Oh, God. My poor, poor, worn-down audience. Finally. And Matt's built-in audience. Oh, God. My poor, my poor, poor, worn-down audience. Yes. That's Megan Sinclair, Matt's wife. Hi, Megan. Hi, how are you? You can come in now.

Hi, Megan. Quietly sitting over there. This is exciting. Well, we also wanted to invite Megan on the show because you two are one of the show's storied couples that met working together on the show we met working on late night with conan o'brien we did and that is quite a triumph because boy oh boy what an asexual working environment so for you two to have a spark to find a spark yeah and have that spark, yes. And have that spark get oxygen. It's a testament to my wardrobe of hoodies and jeans.

Day in and day out. Day in and day out. How could she resist? Do you remember in the beginning when I, the first time I did Matt's laundry, he literally everything that came out of the wash was from, was it Billabong? No, it was, it was not.

Oh no, Matt. It was so was so bad wait were you in your mid-20s no i had just turned 30 he was a teenager what was the brand what was quick silver quick silver and matt came home from work and i was like oh is this i actually thought he was doing a bit like i was like this has got to be some sort of like it was it was at PacSun yeah so so here's what had happened okay um I didn't think this would come up but I'm really glad it did so I can clear the air um I bet a lot's gonna come you know I lived in LA before I got hired on Conan and I it was I had my first writing job and finally could at least just listen. My sense of style wasn't, wasn't great. 13 year old skater.

So I went to the Grove in Los Angeles and a stylist on the show that I was working on. I said, I need to get some jeans. Where should I go? And she said, go to Quicksilver. They have good jeans. So I went and I bought like five pairs of jeans and I just bought a bunch of shirts. And then I went to American Apparel, which I think was a couple stores down. And I bought like a bunch of hoodies and some t-shirts. And I thought, well, this will last me for the next decade.

And in the middle of that, about five years into that run, it came to a hard that ground to a sudden halt when i came home one day and megan said let's talk about what's happening here what i found in the laundry oh wow i found all of your clothes so that that um quickly went away but that's kind of listen that's how it how it happened. It was an innocent mistake. He still had boxes. He had lived in California before he moved to, before he got the job at Conan. In New York. In New York. I lived in New York, then California, then New York.

And then he came back to California for The Tonight Show. And the moving company called because he had not unpacked the boxes that he moved to New York with. Right. So the moving company was confused. It had the old moving labels on them. Because Matt just lived out of boxes. He just left them. Basically, yeah, I had a bunch of stuff that I had not packed.

You just lived out of boxes for like five years. Are they still unopened? Yes. They are our kitchen table now. A piece of plywood and some cardboard boxes. So you're planning ahead. Yes, he said, I don't understand.

I'm scanning these and it's coming up that we've already moved these boxes. And I said, oh, you have actually. You're like a caveman. I think this style evolution had to happen, Matt. I mean, you had to shed that cocoon so that you could emerge as the butterfly that you are now. Oh, man. Check him out. So I could evolve to sweatpants.

To sweatpants. And more sophisticated tattered t-shirts. More expensive t-shirts. More expensive t-shirts. Exactly right. Well, so can you guys tell us how, first of all, how you initially met and then maybe how you began a romance i'd love to hear whatever whatever is acceptable for listeners get ready for the most salacious inside conan we're primarily of child listeners so please well we have conflicting stories about

the first time we met you go right ahead i love oh that's great mine is right which was i was it might be matt introduced himself we're standing in the hallway i like floated i didn't ever creep i know well wait we should set up what your job was um so you're a show photographer yes i was kind of floating around 30 rock. Yeah. So what shows? So I worked on the SNL floor and, but then I came down to shoot Conan when Dana was not working. And Dana was the show. Dana Edelson.

Yeah. She was a show photographer for years. And then, so I started like filling in a few days for her. So the only time that we ever ran into each and the the studio was not on the same floor as the conan offices right so we only ever saw each other when matt had something on the show on the floor yeah right i would only pitch photograph comedy stills heavy stills heavy comedy right i remember meeting him in the elevator bank

because it was one of those you had to like put in the floor you were going to and then it would tell you which elevator to go to. And Matt came over and introduced himself and you were having like trouble with the elevator. So I explained to him how it worked. Was this all a bit? I explained to him how it worked. Was this all a bit? I explained to him how it worked. And then I got in. My elevator came first. And you made some terrible, I mean, very funny joke. Thank you. And then the elevator door started to close.

And Matt was like, I'm Matt. You know, like, as the door closed. What a come on, pretending you don't know how an elevator works. Exactly right. Thank you, Sweeney. In front of a woman. Well, yeah. So you went over and introduced yourself. Obviously, Matt, you

were like, oh, there's a pretty lady. I said, here's a pretty lady. I said, these clothes are not mine. These Quicksilver jeans and American Apparel hoodie were given to me by wardrobe. Wait till you see what's in my unopened box. Yeah.

I said, I'm definitely a functioning adult We should get to know each other And then you asked me at the wrap party And then I So I saw Megan on and off For the better part of a year Wait, by seeing her No, I'm so sorry

I would bump into her At the elevator And it took you a year By seeing her? No, I'm so sorry. No, I just, I would bump into her. I would bump into her. Oh, at the elevator. Yeah. At the elevator. And it took you a year before you. Was it a year? Yeah.

Introduced her for a while. Close to it. We would chat when we saw each other. You know what? I was so focused on my job that I didn't want anything to interfere with my creative. Don't worry. Conan will never lose. Thank you. Thank you.

And then as the show started winding down those last few weeks at 30 rock you were there they had photographers there a lot sort of documenting the end of the show rehearsals and and all you know so we started chatting more and then um at the rap party and which was actually in the SNL studio for Late Night. Right. Oh, wow. So you got, okay, after the very last... It was at that wrap party that I said, do you want to have dinner sometime? By the way, I'm moving to LA in two months. I'm moving in two months.

And then they moved it up and you left even sooner. You know what, I think it was three months and then Sweeney, you called me and said, I think we're going to start shooting remotes early. So it was like a month or two. And then we kept it together long distance. And Megan worked for Jimmy Fallon's show, actually, for a little while. Oh, because he took over late night.

And as you know, part of the nice thing about late night is you do get swaths of time off those two, three week periods throughout the year. So we sort of just kept it together through that. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. So you were officially a couple at that point. It was long distance. Yeah.

I would come out to LA and visit. Yeah. We really didn't date in the same town for more than like two months. We're just getting to know each other. And then, so I convinced Megan to finally, you know, leave her job at her steady, comfortable job at Jimmy Fallon, uh, and move out to LA to Los Angeles where she could maybe, you know, uh, find work.

And then, but I said, listen, don't worry. I've got a job. So we're all set. And then the tonight show ended probably two weeks later. I think it was two weeks later. You were like, look at debt. Was it on deadline or something? And I was like, oh, okay, this is fun.

Now we're both unemployed. Well, now we're going to really see if this works. Right. Yeah. What a great test. And Matt lived in a elevator building. So, so much pressure. It was only one floor up, but I had to, I fumbled with it each time just to keep things going.

Wow. only one floor up but i had to i fumbled with it each time just to keep things going um wow but fortuitously megan did some some work on the tour yeah shooting a lot of behind the scenes photographs on the tour and then they hired her full-time as the show photographer when on the tbs show so uh it did work out that way that's great and then i got to work with my wife, every person's dream. Well, yeah, I was wondering, did that, I mean, did either of you have qualms about working together? And I think if we got together when we were not working together and then started working together, it would have been more of an issue. I think just because we had always kind of, you know, because we had always worked together at work. Yeah. Right. That it was a good point. Another, I mean, another thing too, is when you, and Sweeney, you know this, Jesse, you know this, when you're putting together a show every day, there isn't a lot of time

oftentimes to just sit around. Right. So that was actually probably helpful. Yeah. Megan was oftentimes busy and so was I. Opposites. Yeah. In that you were really busy in the morning and then when the show came in after the show, I was busy.

Right. Would you guys at the end of the day going home? We drove separately. We would drive separately. Right, right. Because you had to stay later, I'm guessing. And we wanted the alone time. Right on the ride home.

Would you guys catch glimpses of each other's day so that at the end of the day, like, would you be like, hey, what was going on there? Or were you just like, ugh? We did talk about the show a lot. I mean, it's hard not to because it was like our whole lives. Sometimes we would put moratoriums on it, which is just, let's not talk about work. We've got 20 minutes of talking about. Let's just talk about something else. Yeah.

Yeah, because it does consume your your life a little bit and also you know socially you hang out with people from work and you know it it definitely yeah that's where like my closest yeah it's my closest friends out here are so it was it was it is interesting however right so it yeah we would try we would make an effort to i guess live in blissful ignorance that we work together and everything else revolved around the show. And we pretended, we pretended we were more dynamic people than we were,

I guess. And you two being a couple, I mean, certainly provided Conan with a lot of. Oh God. Ammo. Here we go. Especially cause Matt's last name is O'Brien.

So my, right. So my, since my last name is O'Brien, what did he always say? His favorite thing used to be that you were my safety school. Yes. You married your safety school. And he was the Ivy League. Oh, because Conan.

He was the Ivy League. You were actually in love with Conan. Conan was the Ivy League and you married your safety school. And yes, that. I actually think it was during that time you settled for the less talented o'brien during that riff you were backstage it was like during during a rehearsal and then you came out you happened to be on the show that day and mackey he was like i just don't get it like. And Matt came out, he was like, I just don't get it. I think I came out,

I'm not kidding, I think I was wearing... He came out in an ice diaper. He had, it was like this plastic thing that... I don't even think we rehearsed the sketch. He just immediately said,

Megan, do you see my point? What were you thinking? The character was Irish guy in an ice diaper. So bizarre. I don't know what from. The character was Cuck. I can't.

Cuck. Walter Cuck. Walter Cuck. I can't even begin to remember what the context was. Did you ever feel in those moments, Matt, like, oh, it might be nice to not have my wife here to see this? It's interesting. You know, when you're in show business, the glitz and glamour blind you to a lot of those shameful moments. And now that we're talking about it, yeah.

Anger is the emotion you're feeling the most right now. Probably not. There were so many too. The one where you were Batman and Brian was Robin and you guys were in like mesh tank tops. We were shooting a low rent porn version. It was a porno.

It was called The Dark Knight Rising. Right, it was a fan correction. So gross. It was a porno where, yeah, you were Batman, Andre Dubachet was Bane, and Brian McCann was the Riddler. I remember that time saying to you, at some point, we're going to have children,

and you've got to draw a line. And we're going to show them the SAG-AFTRA checks. Jesus. Nothing will have been worth it and that that'll shut them right sweet sweet pension that will be living off horrifying i had that once where i i think i had to uh on late night make out i was dressed as lincoln and i think i had to make out with ape Lincoln. Ape Lincoln's one of my favorites. I don't know. Okay. But anyway, so, you know, we're kissing and stuff and I'm like, and we had two little toddlers.

I'm just like, you know, they'll never see this. And it became, I think our show was going to be on Comedy Central for a while. You don't remember, it was rerun on CNBC for a while. Do you remember that? Maybe that, whatever it was, they ran ads to promote the new Conan repeats and they had a clip of Lincoln kissing Ape Lincoln. And my little kids are like, hey, is that you?

That's you, right? That's right, guys. Let's talk. sometimes people time travel and they make out with primates that come out of the portal those are honestly my favorite pitches or favorite pieces when it's it's you just changed one letter yes a b a b to pea and ape Lincoln crystallizes. Those are my favorites. It's 10 minutes of content. It's not, it's the least amount of work for an idea that instantly crystallizes in your brain.

An idea that came up at 10 PM. So that's what I always loved about human centipede menorah. Todd Levin's idea. I forgot about that. Right, right. He pitched it. Right. And you don't really have to say more than that. Okay, got it. Yeah. Yes, it's all there. It's there. In the title.

It's right there. It's ready to go. He added the word menorah to the end of human centipede. And we got eight nights of comedy. Year after year, yeah. That's true. Did Conan come to your wedding? He did not. Our wedding was on Shelter Island. Oh, in a hurricane. Off the eastern end of Long Island.

Oh, my God. So it was not easy to get to from the West Coast. Right. I could have seen Conan wanting to give Megan away. Walk her down the aisle? Yes. Giving her all these other options while the walk is going down.

Not too late. We had to email everyone the day before our wedding and say, we're actually not going to get married tomorrow. Oh, wow. Yeah. We got married a day early

on the night of what was supposed to be the rehearsal dinner. Yeah. We got married a day early on the night of what was supposed to be the rehearsal dinner. Yeah. And basically everybody that was in town came and we had a small little wedding. And then the next day everybody left before a hurricane. Except Sona. Except for Sona. Sona was the first person we saw after we got married.

We went down to take pictures. We got married at an inn that was on the water. And we were walking back up. It's this massive lawn. One Adirondack chair and just Sona's silhouette of her curly hair. Yep. Completely hammered. Oh, that's great.

Hammered. And she was like, well, I didn't know you were going to get married. I didn't know the wedding was tonight. I would have, I wouldn't have started drinking during the day. So I said,

you're right. This is, it makes, it totally makes sense. And she stayed. She rode out. She rode out the hurricane in the hotel

on Shelter Island. Yep. Wow. Her and this hotel staff. They were there. Yes. They had to stay. They had to stay because I was so drunk. staff, they were there. They had to stay. They had to stay. Just cause she was there.

Yeah. Basically. That's basically what happened. And Megan, who, who took your wedding photo photographs? Oh, a friend of mine, uh, Mary Britton that I went to college with. She was already in town and she, thank God, was there already. And she took some photos for us. Are you a good subject for photography or are you kind of like...

I'm terrible. You're probably looking at the lighting and like, wait, why does she have me over by this wall? Why is the lens cap on? I just don't like being in front of the camera. This is my worst nightmare and I'm not even on camera. It's way easier to be behind the scenes. I didn't know that shows had photographers. I was like, well, wait, it's on television.

But so can you give people a sense of what your duties were? Sure. television but so can you give people a sense of what your duties were like i mean i i didn't really know about it either ah when i first got the job in new york i was literally in an interview for another job uh for lauren's company and in my interview someone kept calling the woman i was interviewing with and she finally picked up and she just said, I just so vividly remember her saying like, oh, I think I have the perfect person sitting in my office right now. I'll send her over. And she got off the phone and she was like, you know, looking at my resume, saw that I went to school for photography. And she was like,

you know, 30 Rock needs a part-time photographer. Would you be interested in going over and interviewing? And that's literally what I did. I walked over to 30 Rock, interviewed, and started filling in that week. So it was just like a very quick... At Saturday Night Live? SNL, I shot the scenic stuff, things that needed to be shot for the show, stills for the show. Got it, got it.

Which is kind of how I started out at Conan, too. And that means shooting if there's a photograph needed. Yeah. We're putting Conan in a backdrop. Exactly. Like green screen stuff. But it was really fun. 30 Rock was such an awesome place to work and yeah i

bet and then you graduated to i i'm curious about being the show photographer where your duties kind of changed a bit to where you kind of recorded the show and photographs every day right yes so i came to all the shows basically they use them for well well, it used to be actually at 30 Rock, they used to do slide shows every night online. And they would post like maybe 10 to 15 photos from the show. And that was for the press, though, also. And then they would send them to press. And so if somebody needed to post something or whatever, they had stills for that. You'd shoot all these photos and then you had to sit down and get out.

Yes, quickly. Wow, that's a lot of work. And then they also, back then, we also added metadata to everything. So you could easily, I mean, there were just thousands and thousands of photos from the years. So then you had to categorize all of them and organize them to make it easy for people to access. Wow. Do you still have all those files of all the photos you've taken over the years or do you have to like hand it over? Yeah. It was interesting when we left NBC, we had to hand over the rights to all those images. Right. Oh, wow wow so i have some of them but uh sure you hear that mbc

i hope you guys are ready to play ball take that hard drive from my cold dead hand but it was a little more structured than tbs was more fun to shoot because it was just we got to shoot like more behind the scenes stuff it was more just kind of documenting the whole experience than than getting like very formal like locked off shots right and we can and also you know the team coco website was yeah the website started up and that was really fun to shoot a lot of photos yeah that kind of stuff yeah it was way more fun and we had to own our own guest photos and like a lot remotes. Shooting outside of the studio is always really fun. Right, right. The show started traveling and those were really great.

I remember Warner Brothers, they decorated the wall with so many of your photos behind the scenes of remotes. But they were great photos. Oh, thank you. I loved those. Oh, they're great. Really great. That's my favorite part of, or has been my favorite part of shooting a show. Yeah, you shot some random stuff in random places.

Yes. Yeah. But when you went to Mexico City, we selfishly have some really beautiful photos of Mexico City at home because Megan was there shooting the... Conan did a travel show in Mexico City. So it took a week of taping and stuff. So you were there the whole time. Yeah, that was really fun. That was a really fun shoot.

And it was like days of, I just felt like there were more and more remotes at TBS, which became a much more kind of fun and playful environment. Particularly when we did the travel shows. Yeah, yeah. And also Comic-Con. Oh God.

Right. Comic-Con. Yeah, you both were there for all the Comic-Cons. Yes. Up until the twins were born. Yeah, up until, yeah, so that'd. Comic-Con. Yeah, that was great. You both were there for all the Comic-Cons. Yes. Up until the twins were born. Yeah, up until, yeah, so that'd be five years ago. You have twin children. We have twins.

We have twin children, twins, almost five years old. Yeah. Amazing. Wow, you did it. We did it. They would not exist had we not met at Conan. Can you believe that? Amazing.

That's true. That's something they'll have to live with. Conan technically owns your children. We had to release the rights to NBC. We had to sign it over to NBC when we left NBC. They're an IP. They're an IP. Megan, do you have a favorite on-screen performance of Matt's?

Okay. Oh, man. There's so many. Pope on a Rope? Or least favorite. It's so funny. I was thinking of Pope on the Rope. Pope on a Rope. There's so many. Pope on a rope? It's so funny. I was thinking of Pope on a rope when you said that. Pope on a rope was funny. Can you describe Pope on a rope?

I just remember you flying. It was when they were choosing a new Pope and, you know, the smoke, you wait for the smoke coming from the chimney at the Vatican to change colors, I guess, to change to idea, a comedy idea for the new Pope selection process. And so in the middle of the show, the smoke turned white, and this had been two or three weeks of debating back and forth, brainstorming, and we're now going to unveil our new Pope comedy idea. Here it is, Pope on a rope. And it was just a Pope swinging on a rope. I love that you were cast as the Pope.

The first time I saw you in a bit, though, I didn't know it was you, but I was like, oh, that poor guy. Was this at late night? It was at late night. Yes. He flubbed his line. The first time I was on the show, I flubbed his line i the first time i was on the show i flubbed my line i was poseidon this was your first on-camera appearance matt my first and you were shirtless

painted you were dressed as aquaman aquaman or poseidon or something right yes and you appeared at the top of the stairs so you commanded this entire the literally entire studio audience turned around the entire yeah it was like shut up listen to this the entire studio audience show and network the national broadcasting corporation was then focused on me dressed in a blue tight singlet as poseidon and uh i said i am the aqua king every creature of the sea obeys me my powers are and i just flubbed the word limitless and of course the camera cuts to conan and without missing anything he goes apparently not your powers of speech, which of course was a huge laugh. So I had turned left into a goldmine.

Yeah. Because he then became the hero of the moment. I remember finding out that it was you like literally years later. And I was like, oh my God, that was you. Oh no. I'm having children with him. I know. I was like children i know i was like he can't work an elevator he can't say what the word limitless limitless here's the ironic thing is is that that moment made it into many blooper reels and sort of outtake reels which as you know when that reruns you get paid right so i accidentally flubbed myself into

yeah exactly um all it cost me was all my dignity but you get seven dollar checks a few times a year but yeah i got to buy more legos for the kids um going back to Comic-Con, we haven't gotten to talk to anybody about Comic-Con that much yet. And so I think some of the best moments of the TBS era are from the Comic-Con shows. Can you, either of you, walk us through the process of writing and preparing for those shows?

Comic-Con was wild. Comic-Con was wild. It was intense. preparing for those shows comic-con was wild that was like always intense it was it was particularly intense from a writing standpoint because we we did we were preparing a ton of comedy yes for those shows um four shows four shows all of it though prepared in advance spanning the week all print events and we and we it's not like we you know, a month off to really write and produce those ideas. We were doing it concurrently with the nightly show. Right.

So you kind of had to, it was kind of spinning plates because you had to make, hopefully, our regular nightly show in Burbank. You know, hopefully there wasn't a drop off in quality while we were also writing and producing a ton of this comic con stuff for a month or maybe even two months leading up to it. And it, it ate up a lot of the department's time. That's exactly right. Yes. So wardrobe was very production.

If you needed a costume for the show that night, wardrobe said, well, I would oftentimes say, I'm not sure we can do it because we're making some insane, you know, stretch Armstrong for Comic-Con that's taking 10 men and $25,000 an hour. That we won't use. Exactly. We'd make about four times as much comedy as we would even end up having time for.

You didn't want to get down there and have too little, obviously. Yeah. Right. So we would always overdo it so that we had plenty to choose from. Yes, and you kind of want, it's psychological too, even just with Conan where, you know, you want him to feel like, oh,

yeah, there's plenty to choose from. A well-stocked buffet. Nothing's being forced. There's nothing he has to do because that's all we've got. I will say it keeps him comfortable and excited about the week when you have good piece after good piece. Also, the show saved on a hotel room because Megan and I could share a hotel room legally. Oh, my God. Yeah.

So, on some level, that's where the savings come in. On some level, the show was saving money that week. Right. Right. Yeah, thanks to us. They should have paired us all off with somebody.

We all should have. Like a key party. Yeah, would you two get really into the party scene down in San Diego? Oh man. Doing the head writing during Comic-Con was one of the more tiring weeks I think I've ever had. Yeah. I feel like you didn't really, that was like when you stopped going out.

I didn't see anybody, really. You can't because you have to get everything ready for the next day and you're there. Yes. By the time you're done, I think at the end of the day, you just want to go sleep. You kind of have to put out any potential fires the night before. yes but by the time you're done i think at the end of the day you just want to go sleep you kind of have to put out any potential fires the night before right because day of you're in a theater you don't have your you're not in your home home turf so you kind of have to stay ahead of way ahead of things if there's if there's going to be yeah any particular production issue or prop issue

or wardrobe issue so there's a lot of, or script issue. Nothing would be decided, like after each show, you'd go, okay, what are the next best things we're gonna do tomorrow, right? Exactly. So it was a lot of last minute planning. And occasionally if something did really, really well that first night or two, you'd maybe wanna bring it back

for the Wednesday or Thursday show. So now you're starting to write that script. Well, I remember speaking of putting out fires, um, one year Conan like had got a, uh, lost his voice right before. Right. Yes. He got a steroid shot in his throat or something like that. Yeah. And it was like, how did that get resolved?

Cause I remember it was like, he had to get a steroid shot. He got a, he got a steroid shot in his throat and did not talk. Wow. He did not talk for... Is that a needle going into your throat? That's a good question. I don't know. That's what they did for me.

Well, we have another episode of Inside Conan coming up. This is the medical condition. The dentist that he found, or the ENT that he found. I do believe he, though, once he had some, once he saw that doctor, I think he was kind of, I think he was sort of just trying to get through the week. Yeah. But he was on those steroids almost all week. Yeah. And he couldn't talk all day.

By the last night, I remember there was cracks in the dam forming. Yeah. You could tell. But it was much better than when, I mean, initially it was like it was completely gone. Correct. The night before we were supposed to start. That is absolutely correct. Doing shows.

And then it was kind of magic. But it was great. You could insult him all day. He wasn't a here or there. I was able to respond. Finally. And be like, I'm sorry, what's that code? And I didn't hear.

The thing is, is that that wouldn't have stopped him. That's like putting a treat in front of a dog and saying, leave it, not gonna happen. Or he'd literally just table it till when his voice came out. Bring it back. And then he's like, all right, guess who can talk again? He had David hopping with a legal pad

writing down each moment to respond to. Justine, I got to shoot a pre-tape for a Game of Thrones parody. Yes. yes that was fun that was so much fun andy daly was in it oh i love it it was so hilarious but it's so funny conan got made up it was after the season where we saw melisandre melisandre real form like when she takes her necklace off and then she becomes the old woman. This withered old woman. Yes. And so it's Conan in his hotel room in San Diego.

And Andy Daly's the bellhop who's like, keeps coming back trying to be helpful. But Conan is. He has to keep putting his necklace on so that he doesn't answer the door as an old withered woman. That's the one we shot in Burbank, right? Yeah, we shot that in Burbank. I remember that. And we had Conan in this old woman's...

I mean, it was amazing prosthetic suit. It was great. That was amazing. Well, he shot the A-side before the transition, and then he had to go into an adjacent hotel room for like... Hours. Hours. Yeah, it took a couple hours to get all that makeup on,

but he loves that stuff because he knows it's worth it. I do remember when that Melisandre clip played at Comic-Con because we thought, well, I think people know this moment, you know, and people, that was an absolute nuclear explosion of laughter. People knew exactly what we were doing. Yeah. Which is so great.

It was so satisfying. Those crowds were so nerded out on anything. knew exactly what we were doing yeah it was so satisfying it was so satisfying those crowds they were so nerded out i know i would love yeah oh are they are we sure they're gonna know it and it's like uh yeah they know it they've got the test they're gonna poke holes in it immediately yeah exactly yeah they're gonna well actually um well actually well one last question we like to ask people is do you have any favorite do you have a favorite Conan memory? It could be on or off screen. you know, he's obviously a very silly man. And he kept pretending like he couldn't find the bathroom and bumping into walls in the kitchen. And they were going nuts going like,

no, no, the bathroom is right there. And he'd say, okay. And then he would walk into another wall and... He ripped off your elevator bit. And I do remember for the next you know after that happened like for the next month or two and still happens occasionally like we'll just be driving and they'll just be quiet and i'll be like that conan's so silly i can't believe he couldn't find the bathroom it's really great with kids it's fun to watch him with little kids. And he's just kind of a, physically a cartoon anyway.

So, but I just, they just occasionally, I don't know why it just will cross their mind. Occasionally be like, man, that Conan's so silly. You couldn't find the bathroom.

It's really funny. You know, and then they'll just move on and they'll just be like, okay. So silly. So that's kind of a, in terms of a full circle memory, because we met at his show,

dated, we're married and had kids. And it kind of, kind of for better or worse, kind of goes through him a little bit. I love that. Yeah. That's a great story.

Well, thank you guys so much. Thanks for having us. Thank you for having us. This was really fun. Thank you. We got to go get them from preschool. You're going to get them, right? What's that? I'm getting them?

Alright, that was Matt and Megan. Thank you guys. And I think doing that interview helped strengthen their marriage. I agree. It felt therapeutic. Yeah, I think it was good for both of them. We should check and make sure they're still married.

Next time we'll have them on with their twins. Yes. Yeah, yeah. They have very cute twins. They are very adorable. Hey, speaking of adorable. Yeah? Our listeners are adorable, aren't they?

Oh, Jessie, they really are. Here's one of those adorable listeners now. Hi, Mike and Jessie. My name is Todd. I am a huge fan of the show and love you both. Thank you so much for the entertainment. I live in Burbank, California, not far from where you guys filmed the Conan show on the Warner Brothers lot. And that's where my question begins. of big backstreet city facades and neighborhood facades and lakes and plants and things. And I was just wondering if you ever started writing a sketch or a bit just by walking around the lot and looking at what you had at your disposal and thinking, hmm, what can we do with that?

What can we do with this? Or if it was just a fun place to be. So can't wait to hear my answer on the air. Love you guys. Talk to you soon. Bye. Todd. Todd. Is Todd going to do the you soon. Bye. Todd. Todd.

Is Todd going to do the answer? What a sweetheart. That would be great. I know. Todd's, I love it. He lives right in beautiful Burbank. Yeah, Burbank. We've probably crossed paths at some point.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure. Maybe they're on Olive. Olive and Time. Do you go to Olive and Time, Todd? Or if he lived on the lot, I think we were more likely to run into him. Right.

He lives on that fake New York street. That's a good question, though. It is a really good question. How about for you? I mean, working on the Warner Brothers lot was awesome, first of all. It feels very Hollywood. Oh, man. We were talking about this recently.

It's just Universal is half studio, but mostly theme park. Yeah. Whereas Warner Brothers is all about making things and it's just a studio. And it's stuff you've seen in movies and TV shows before. And you're like, oh, that's the that Central Park on Friends. Yes. Or the Fountain. No, so many TV shows and so many giant, all the Warner Brothers movies.

Most of them are shot, at at least in part on that lot. Yeah. And I mean, it's amazing because the back streets are a little bit nondescript. So they're kind of like any town USA. Right. They're generic facades that they dress with signs and window dressing. To make it feel more town specific. Exactly.

Yeah. And then there's a sort of jungle area that you can go in. And it can be the woods. They called it the lagoon, right? The lagoon, yeah. Was there actually a lagoon? There was a cement pond that they would fill with water when they were filming. Because they filmed True Blood back there.

Oh, that's right. Which when you knew that and then you'd watch True Blood, it's just like. That's the same swamp. Yeah. And it's so small, but it's crazy the effect you can get just by your camera angle. Different angles. Yeah. That if the camera widened out just six inches, you'd see the beginning of the parking lot.

Yeah. It's literally that black and white from one section to the next. I know. That's amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Todd's question was, did we get inspired by working on the lot? Well, first of all, I want to share something, which is that when I first started working at the show, I would get really stressed out in the afternoons when we'd have to come up with stuff. Sure.

When we'd have to pitch ideas. And there'd sort of be a quota of pitches that we had to turn in. Yeah. And I would always go for a walk around the lot because that was a great way for me to just calm down a little bit. And walking really gets your brain working and can clear the mental log jams. Yeah. I mean, so many writers say that, that walking really can help. So it was like pacing, but.

And you'd run into all the other writers. Yeah, I actually, yeah, no. At one point, Levi McDougall and I started going for walks together. Oh, that's great. And then we'd go to Starbucks and then it eventually just became going to Starbucks. Oh, that's great. Would he just put his head in and like, all right, let's go. It's time.

It's time. Yeah. Being the head writer, I never left my office. You didn't. I know. You wouldn't even go to lunch. No. Yeah.

Because we had to rehearse at one. Right. And you'd be doing all these script changes and looking at pre-tape edits. And I found there's just no time. So it wasn't until I stopped being the head writer and just worked on the travel shows and Matt became the head writer that I was like,

and even then it was almost like a year went by and I was like, I can leave this building. Like I literally went out. You can have boundaries. Yes. And I started exploring. Yeah.

Because you'd like to do that normally in your life. I mean, you're an explorer. I'm nosy. And you like to travel. Yeah. Because you like to do that normally in your life. I mean, you're an explorer. I'm nosy. And you like to travel. Yeah. So I just started snooping around. Oh, that's great. A lot.

And I loved it. I loved it. Yeah. Because there's so much. Like, I went by, snuck into, like, Jack Warner's office building. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's that whole Rose Garden area that's really lovely.

Yes, yes. And we don't ever get to use it. I just read about it in the New York Times a couple days ago. They were like, that's where the new head of HBO Max, the new Discovery Plus, where they decided to pull the plug on CNN Plus. Oh, funny. And I was like, I know exactly where that is. Yeah, yeah.

I know that office. That's where they put a stake through Chris Wallace's heart. So yeah. So it's cool to walk around, isn't it? I never got used to, I never took for granted being on that lot every day. It was very... It seemed special. Hollywood. Yeah. I felt very lucky. Me too. And I was always hoping to see, I mean, did you see celebrities a lot?

People always saw Clint Eastwood. I saw Clint Eastwood. Never saw her. And I saw Frances McDormand. I'm sure I saw plenty of other people. I was always looking once I knew he was- I saw Conan once. Oh, wow.

Yeah, but go ahead. You always were watching. No, once, because towards the end, I'd heard LeBron James' production company was on that lot. And I was hoping to see him, but I never did. Oh, and you know what? I did see him. You did? Yeah, I saw him just walking near our control room one day.

Oh, funny. Yeah. And I said, you're kind of far from the Staples Center. And we laughed and laughed. Oh, my gosh. And then he issued a restraining order against you yeah and then he said uh you know what i don't think you should be on that table read punch up thing tomorrow that's worse than must must see relationship padline but todd's question was did

we ever get inspiration i the one thing that i can think of, I'm sure I'm forgetting some things because I showed a lot around the lot and it was always fun, especially in the lagoon area. I really liked when I'd have to go in there and it would be like, all right, we're in the woods. Right. I think I did. I did a few things back there. One, I do remember getting inspiration from is we were across the street from the or across the the way from ellen studio yes and i did get a lot of inspiration from the ellen studio because her audiences would come in at christmas time right and they'd get there it was like the giveaway time of year and was it

like 12 days of christmas or something christmas And they leave with- They get insane. Flat screen TVs and, you know, Xboxes. Like they need carts to carry all the loot. Yes, to carry them to the car. Yeah. And so I did write a bit about the audience stealing stuff from the audience members and how they do it. Right. That was a great bit.

It's that our audience, the Conan audience members- Our audience members get to- Steal stuff. Rip them off. Right. But then they end up on the run. They're on the lam. They're fugitives. They're fugitives.

And then they end up in the lagoon woods. Oh, that's where you shot that. But Ellen finds them and throws them into the Warner Brothers jail and then brands them with her logo. With the Ellen logo. With the Ellen logo. And I remember my favorite shot of that is there's this, it's just through someone's feet as the brand is coming onto their faces. And the feet are wearing Converse. Right, right.

Her signature cut. Ellen, yeah. We did a few things about Ellen being right there. Yes. I know Todd Levin shot something in fake New York. Or he really liked the fake New York Street with all the brownstones. He loved he kind of loved the fake. I think he shot fake Italians

on the fake. Yes. Right. Wasn't that the idea? Yeah. On the fake New York Street. Kind of leaning into it. Leaning into it. Which is smart. Because yeah, there was no I mean, especially if you're spending time in New York. Yeah, we've talked about Seinfeld being filmed there.

And the California. No way. Yeah. Yeah. Is a dead giveaway. You're just like, wait a minute. There's way too much sun. That's the clock slot.

Yeah. I wonder if Todd's taken the tour. They have a great. Yeah. The tour of Warner Brothers. You can sign up for it. Mm hmm. That's a great tour.

I thought about doing it even since we left the lot. Yeah. Or like. Because it'd be fun. If you had friends visiting from out of town, that seems like a great idea. That's a great time to do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you get to go to the...

There's a museum. The museum. And you go... Warner Brothers Museum. There's a Harry Potter section. The whole second floor they just gave over to Harry Potter. Yeah, yeah. They have a sorting hat.

Your name out of the sorting hat. Right, right, right. I mean, it's terrific. Yeah, you go to the Friends Fountain and the Friends Coffee Shop and stuff. Okay, well. Well, thanks, Todd. Thanks, Todd. We'll see you around Burbank.

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