Inside Conan: An Important Hollywood Podcast - Tony Hale, Matt O'Brien

Episode Date: May 3, 2019

Actor and comedian Tony Hale joins Conan writers Mike Sweeney and Jessie Gaskell to walk them through his personal experience of being on a talk show and how Conan’s show taught him a lesson in diverting anxiety. Then, current Conan head writer Matt O’Brien joins Mike and Jessie to clear the air regarding their schedules since they started hosting this podcast. Plus, Mike and Jessie listen to listener voicemail suggestions about where Conan should go next for a future travel show.This episode is brought to you by The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Away (www.awaytravel.com/insideconan code: INSIDECONAN), and Aunt Fannie’s Pest Solutions (www.auntfannies.com/bugs code: INSIDECONAN).Check out Conan Without Borders: Australia: https://teamcoco.com/australiaCheck out Conan25: The Remotes: https://conan25.teamcoco.com/Got a question for Inside Conan? Call our voicemail: [phone] and e-mail us at [e-mail] Conan videos, tour dates and more visit TeamCoco.com.

And now, it's time for Inside Conan, an important Hollywood podcast. Hey. Hi, Jesse. Welcome to Inside Conan. An important Hollywood podcast. I'm Jesse Gaskell. And I'm Mike Sweeney. We're writers here at The Conan Show.

We are. And we are your humble hosts. Yes, we're very humble and we're very happy to be doing this podcast. We are. We are. Oh, yes. No, it's I mean, everything we say sounds sarcastic. So don't take that with a grain of salt. It's always been a problem. No, it's, I mean, everything we say sounds sarcastic, so don't take that with a grain of salt.

It's always been a problem. No, we're here. We want to take you behind the curtain and show you what it's like to work here at the Conan Show. Yes. And today we're literally going to be talking about right behind the curtain. That's right. On the show with our first guest, Tony Hale. Yeah, he was on the show this week.

He's a friend of the show, and he's just an all-around sweet guy. Wonderful guy. And he also walked us through his personal experience of being a guest on a talk show. And it was really interesting. So if you have a talk show appearance coming up, this is going to really help you to get psyched up for it. Tony is a good teacher. Yeah. And then we're also, I mean, I think we're going to talk to Matt O'Brien.

He's our show's head writer. The current head writer. We're getting information that he may have flaked on us. Yeah. He may have quit in protest. I'm sure he'll have a good excuse. He works in the same building. So I don't know, he might've hit traffic on the second floor and turned back. I don't know. It's rough out there. Yeah. I don't know. It's rough out there. Yeah. I don't know. I think he might be intentionally trying to tank the podcast. Yeah.

He's got a little bit of animosity towards it anyway. From day one, he's been kind of a dick about it. Yeah. He doesn't want it to do well. No. So we're going to talk to him about that. Well, he's mad because, you know. I think because he wasn't asked to host it.

Oh, wow. I didn't even think of that. I was going to be much more to host it. Oh, wow. I didn't even think of that. I was going to be much more generous than you. Oh, no. He's mad because it takes us away from doing other stuff. Yes, well, it takes you away. I'm useless. But I last contributed to the show in like 1999.

It takes you away from carving things into the wood of your desk. Yeah, yeah. And then what else are we doing? Oh, we're going to listen to some of your voicemails that you all have been leaving us. Yeah, there's been a ton of voicemails, suggestions on where Conan should go next for his next Conan Without Borders travel show. And we got a lot of great ones. We did. And we're actually getting even closer to figuring out what that destination is. So, without further ado...

Mr. Tony Hale. Hi, Tony Hale. Hello, Tom. Thanks for having me. Thank you for being here. Thank you for doing this. Thank you for walking. Oh, that's so nice to say. The 120 feet from the stage where you just did the show. I just like believing it. Thank you for walking. Like that just says,

thank you for just being here and you. Yeah. Yes, thank you. You got up this morning. And owning the space. Thank you for walking. That just says thank you for just being here and you. Yeah. Yes, thank you. You got up this morning. And owning the space. Thank you for being ambulatory. You have value outside of what you do.

By the way, doesn't everybody want to hear that? We just want to hear it's going to be okay. We're all trying. It's all going to be okay. It is going to be okay.

Keep walking. You were just on the show. I was just on the show. It was very funny. You're kind. No, you were killing in the green room. I wasn't out in the audience,

but we were laughing a lot. See, Conan and Andy, it's wild to me because you almost want to be in that space that they are where it's so everyday and relaxed and the more you do it, you get more relaxed,

but I don't know. it's just that kind of ease with it I always admire that they have that it's just 25 years yeah that's all it takes and then you'll be all set

doing it every day every day yeah screaming at each other did he do I can't remember did he do stand up before he did all this right

you're talking about Conan no no no he was a writer his career has gone in reverse where he he's doing stand-up now. Right.

After having a successful TV show. And then in a month, he's going to do a high school musical. Oh, my God. Literally backwards. The show's going to be backwards. No, he had to learn how to perform on TV from scratch. He had no stand-up background. Wow.

Stand-up background. Yeah. But the early years, I mean, I don't know if you saw those episodes. It took a while. It took a bit. I should go back and see him. Tony wasn't born yet. He was a writer on SNL, right?

SNL. And The Simpsons. He left that for The Simpsons. So this podcast is just a worship of Conan. We're just talking about Conan. on SNL, right? SNL. And the Simpsons. He left that for the Simpsons. And then when did, so this podcast is just a worship of Conan. We're just talking about Conan. I've pulled up his resume.

He always comes up. When did Andy join him? From the beginning? From the beginning. Really? And then Andy left in 2000, in May of 2000.

And we did a show, Andy and I did a show together. Andy Barker, PI, which was great. You were, you ran. I was a sidekick. Yeah. Oh my God. But you ran a show. Andy and I did a show together. Andy Barker, PI, which was great. You ran. I was a sidekick. Yeah.

Go, go. Oh, my God. But you ran a store in a mall. And he had a guns office there. Like a video store. Yes. And I was as nervous as most of my characters are. Is there any place people can watch that show now?

I don't know. I have never. That's a good point. I don't know, actually. I don't even know who produced it. Was it Warner Brothers? No, that was back on NBC. Oh, that was Fox. NBC. NBC. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just going to say it's on Hulu.

Watch it on Hulu. Everything that's either on Hulu or Netflix. It's on VHS tapes. This is how, golly, I've got to get better at this. That's like tonight when they did the clip from Beep, and he always asks me, so do you want to set up this clip? And I never know what it's about. I never know where we're coming from.

I don't know what the episode is about. Do they just send that with you? They send it with me, and I should ask the question, what is this about? And I always forget. Yeah, but you have a better stuff. You already did the show. Now you have to, thank you, micromanage. Yeah, don't have any regrets. What clip they're showing on the Conan show.

Absolutely not. Thank you. Yeah. But it did. It was awkward. It was. You felt it. We all did.

Oh, did you really? No, I'm kidding. No, you're not the first person to do that. It happens a lot. Good, good, good, good. Yeah, the clip didn't need a setup. Yeah, that's true, too. Good. good, good, good. Yeah, it didn't need, the clip didn't need to set up. Yeah, that's true too. Good.

And I guess that wraps it up. You know what this is? This is like, I bet this is like a support group for people coming off of the show, right? Yeah. Exactly. We just want you to go home feeling good. It's like an encouragement circle. Yes.

You killed in the green room. You killed with the audience. You each say one thing that's encouraging. I will say there's a there's a like a green hue theme tonight. Totally accidental. Yeah. I'm wearing a green sweater. Jesse's wearing green. That's teal. Kevin's wearing green and he has

a matcha tea as well. But I feel like Kevin is a combination of you two. Oh. Oh. Kevin's our child. Yes. Kevin's our son. He really is. And you know what? Like most teens he hates his parents. And you're wearing white which is doesn't think we're funny. Dad. Yep. He really is. And you know what? Like most teens, he hates his parents. And you're wearing white, which is this. He doesn't think we're funny. Dad.

Yep. White, which is surrendering. Your t-shirt, right, which is my shirt. So I feel a part of the family. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, good. It's good. Well, we just described a lot of things people can't see.

Yes. But I think they'll enjoy it. So we have a clip from Veep. Would you like to set it up? Oh, shit. Give you another chance. Come on, do it. So we have a clip from Veep. Would you like to set it up? Oh, shit. Give you another chance. Come on. Do it.

You just saw the clip, for God's sake. You know what it is. Well, we wanted to have you on. One thing we wanted to discuss was it's Veep season eight, and you've been making the rounds talking about Veep, and you've been on other talk shows. And our podcast is kind of behind the scenes what's going on at Conan. And that includes, we thought we'd look into the guest experience and see how appearing on this show is stacked up with your other recent appearances on television. Yeah.

And you can be critical. Yeah. So, I mean, you, you could walk us through like you walk it, you're, you're brought into a green room and you have a dressing room.

How is that dressing room? Really nice. Here's the thing. I'm a sucker for free, and there's always free snacks. There's free, there's always a can of popcorn. Conan always provides a can of popcorn. And that's why you did this show. And that's why I did this show.

I see a t-shirt right there. Oh, wow. A t-shirt is for me. Let's see how this goes. But I like some, I like, I don't know, like they put out nice food and that makes me happy. Right. But have you ever heard of the love languages?

Yeah. Okay. Do you know guys know what the love languages are? There's five love languages and you typically, okay, so there's affection, gift giving, words, acts of service, and quality time. And you typically give love the way you like to receive love, okay? So I, words are very important to me. So I like give love the way you like to receive love. Okay.

So I, I, I'm words are very important to me. So I like to encourage people and I like to give gifts. So those tend to be my love languages. So when somebody puts out free things, I feel loved. Oh,

better way to say, I love you. I feel not spending money on a gift. Yeah, exactly. Yes. And so like, but my wife's is acts of service. So if,

you know, if I say, say oh i love you she'll be just like well that's nice did you make the bed you know that's how kind of her what is your love language i'm trying to figure it out actually how do you typically conversation do you typically are you words i give acts of service yeah that's probably probably is how i received so if you came home and the house was clean you'd'd be like, Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. He loves me. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm all words. Me too. And, and everyone, and that wore out like by the time I was 18, no one believes anything I say ever. I thought you were talking about the romantic languages. Is it hard to learn someone else's

love language? Like is it hard for you to learn your wife's? Yes. And that's the challenge. Cause it really is kind of like learning another language you know so it's like acts of service I I'll walk by a shirt on the ground 10 times and it won't even register and so I have to I have to think that's her free shirt from somebody please if it's a free shirt I'll take five yeah but it's like if so knowing her to love her the most picking up that shirt and doing the making the bet or something that is her love language. And then words mean nothing to her. They can come and go. So she has to be very careful with her words.

So it's that kind of thing. You learn that kind of language with each other. Now, when you pick up the shirt, if I do something like that, I make a big show of it and go, You see what I did? And it immediately ruins it. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Are you able to keep your mouth shut and pray that she notices the shirt was picked up? Yes, but I've been known to do that too, like, hmm, house looks nice, doesn't it? Yes. And I wonder who did that. But when I do that, I get nothing.

Maybe that's not her love language. Maybe we still don't know what it is. Do you think yours is words? Oh, yeah. nothing. What do you think your wife's... Well, maybe that's not her love language. Maybe we still don't know what it is. Do you think yours is words? Oh, yeah. Yeah. What do you think your wife's is? Because it's a lazy person's approach. Yes, yes.

Yeah. She's all service. She's all service, yes. Okay. Yeah. I'm getting better. I think I'm better. Yeah.

But like my brother has quality time. So it's like... That's a tough one. It's a tough... It takes the most time. It takes time. But it's like he's always kind of the one that family gatherings are very, you know, you can tell that that's kind of his love language where I'm like, meh, family.

Just kidding. I love my family. Service. They're not listening. It's okay. That word I don't equate with love. It's like service sounds like you're... It's forced labor.

Yeah, but it can be like making coffee for someone in the morning or washing their car. I mean, don't you want those things? Oh, yeah. Those are nice. Sure. Come on by. Sorry, I went into like an Oprah talk. But so behind the scenes, BTS as it's known.

Yes. Yeah. Thank you. Of Conan. I arrived and they're always very nice here. Here's the thing, though. With Conan and Andy, they're buddies, so it takes some of the sting off of the performance aspect of it. Right.

You see the people beyond the gig a little bit, which is nice. That's true. Yeah. They come by and say hi before the show. They come by and say hi. Conan and our daughters were in a show together over the summer and so you just kind of have you see the life outside of this world and then andy and i his daughter and my daughter go to school together you know

we just kind of see each other and then andy did it we did that show together right so it helps kind of see beyond this kind of set that's great yeah so do you So do you have the, when you did Good Morning America, not the same relationship? I don't have the same relationship with Robin Roberts. Or George Stephanopoulos. Yeah, we looked at the list

of some of your appearances. Yeah. We wanted to know how we measure up to like, Rachel Ray. Yes. Very nice.

Very nice. Very, I was, here's the thing what I like about Rachel Ray is I like an activity. You know, because even though I. Did you make a recipe on her show? I made a cocktail. I made a.

Service. What's. Service. I love you. I love you, Rachel. Here's a cocktail. What is the drink? It's like Campari and. Oh.

Oh. It's Italian. Aperol Spritz. Oh. No. Bourbon. Negroni. Negrari and Oh, it's Italian. Aperol Spritz? No, bourbon. Negroni. Negroni. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was in charge of making the Negroni. She was in charge.

So it helped, to me, it helps talking when you're doing something. Because it kind of, it doesn't, you're not just sitting there and chatting. They say that about acting, that actors, you know, having really truly, it frees your mind up to really just relax and be yourself. And because, I mean, here I feel very comfortable with another show that I might not know them as well. It's hard not to obsess about every part of, you know, how am I sitting? How am I sounding? Was that funny? Was it, because you're not doing anything.

You're just sitting and you're feeling the audience just staring at you. So with an activity, you can kind of put your energy into that. I will say, interesting story, maybe not. We'll see. But I've struggled with anxiety in my life for a while. And I used to have panic attacks. And I remember years ago when I was doing Conan show and they were about to open the curtains for my name and I felt the dread of a panic attack. And I was like, Oh shit, this is a crossroads.

Not today. Not today. But it was that, cause with a panic attack, when I, if anybody's ever had one, you want to just bolt, you just want to flee.

And the cool thing is I learned a really big lesson is what I immediately did. Cause the guys that were pulling the curtain, cause it was like probably like 30 seconds or a minute or so before they were going to do it. I started asking them questions. I was like, okay, so how long have you been doing this? Where are you from? And I just started telling them because the key was to put my energy off myself and into them. And then you're not focused on your anxiety. And then they called my name and I walked out. So it was like, Conan was like, was a part of me learning a lesson about diverting the energy. I'm glad you said that because Team Coco always posts pictures of the guests coming through the curtains. And I get anxious watching

it because that would be, to me, the scariest moment. It's a little scary. And I actually told the guys when I was just rambling to get my eyes off of my anxiety and myself. I said, I would love somebody to do a documentary of back here. Right. Like just how people cope with kind of that energy. Right. Because I think the more you do it, you kind of take the weight off of it. You're like, this is, I love, because tonight I was saying, Andy Richter, I just love, and I remember, and I told the story about going up

to him and saying, I was nervous about something I said, and he goes, Tony, it doesn't matter. It just doesn't. And he's right, because I give this stuff so much power and it doesn't matter. So, but how, but when I was first doing it, you give it so much weight. You're like, I'm on Conan or I'm on Letterman or whatever, This is going to make or break my career. And it doesn't have that power. But I'd love to see a document of how people deal and manage that kind of energy right before they go out. I think it's the two guys

standing there that freak you out. I think if we got rid of the curtain pullers. But I needed them. But if you had to do the activity of getting through the curtain yourself, that would be an activity. That would relax you. It would just add more shame to your life. But it would get you out of your head.

Because now you've got to figure out how to get through that goddamn curtain. Oh, that would be the worst if you never found your way out. Oh, it would be just a symbol for life. No, you'd just pretend it was part of your shtick. Or those guys could have GoPros on their head and no one would know. And they would be taping what's happening. Yeah, that's right. And then that's the actual show.

I'm sure that's legal. It's legal. That's fine. Just get rid of the curtain. Well, this is an interesting perspective. No, but that moment always does feel like you're like at the top of a roller coaster and you're just going without you. Because I think as a kid, we've all, I mean, I remember watching Johnny Carson and there's that curtain is very just there's a lot of attention given to that like the

opening and the walking and the reveal and in your head you're like I want this to be the best entrance ever watch this yeah you're giving it a lot of power left right left right cut to me like coming out just doing a cabaret move my next one yeah roller skates I think

but they said they loved your entrance tonight. Did they? Conan said when you came out, he goes, I love that entrance. Words are my love words. Words are it. I'm full. I see that. I'm filled up.

You are spilling over. Oh, yeah. Your love cup runneth over. Wow. So that's the scariest moment for you. I mean, again, the more I do it, it's gotten so much better. Right. Wow, so that's the scariest moment for you. I mean, again, the more I do it, it's gotten so much better. Initially, it was that. Because I think when I used to do theater, it was never actually doing the show.

It was always the anticipation of opening night. Yeah. It's all that anticipation that's the most anxiety of like, I'm going to go on stage, I'm going to fall apart. And you just go and you live in this reality in your head that's not real. So it's always the anticipation. But then once you're out, you kind of just ride the roller coaster. You start to relax. I guess relating to the live audience is probably something you have to adapt to, I'm guessing,

in doing a talk show. Yeah. And there are moments when you're sitting out there and you're telling a story or talking about yourself, and you all of a sudden leave your body. Yeah. Just start watching yourself. And you're like, how long have I been talking? Shut up.

Someone interrupt me. But you can just, and it sounds like that Peanuts teacher that's just like, wah, wah, wah, wah. And you almost want to be like, I see this, guys. I know I'm not, this is not working or interesting. But you can't stop. That reminds me of one time when I met Seth Meyers at Comic-Con. I think I even told this on his show once. And I think I had had, I don't think, I know I had had a little too much to drink.

And I had never met him, and I just couldn't stop talking. I just, I went up, he can't, we were, somehow we met and then I just kept talking. And I, and I stepped out and I was like, you have to stop. But I couldn't stop. I was just like, and his face just had this face like, how the hell do I get out? Yeah. Did you start seeing his eyes darting around the room looking for, because I've been that. Or worse in my anxiety, they're not darting they're

just staring at me and then i have a whole story in the pupils i'm like he's looking at me going how the fuck do i get out of this one did you ever talk to him about that oh yeah i talked about his show and he was like i had no he's had no memory of what i was talking about yeah right he felt like he had to pull teeth to get you to talk the exact opposite but i obsessed about it for decades well so let me ask after the show's done, like after the taping, do you feel relief? Do you feel good? Because you kind of came in here and you were like, oh,

was it okay? Yes, of course. But I always say that. My poor wife, I'll come under the green room and just be like, is that right? Was that funny? And it's not like she knows that that's not the time to be like, I've got some notes. Right, right, right. She's like, no, it's great, great. I think it's so different. This is why I'm just so

thankful for, you know, having done it a while, you kind of take the pressure. When I first did Conan, and when I first did the other shows, it was such, I remember the first time I did Letterman, I was so nervous before because you have this moment, like, there's no way out. I have to just do this. There's no way out.

I don't know what this is going to do. And I remember leaving the stage and getting in the dressing room and it was just like somebody just took a thousand pounds off my back. It was like, and then going out for dinner and drinks and you're like, I did it! And by the way, no one cared. No one.

It wasn't in the trades the next day. Exactly. Maybe two views on YouTube. Nobody cares. But you gave it so much power. Yes. So the more I do it, I try not to give it that power. And that is the scary thing also, I think, is the fact you can't, like I like to procrastinate. And it's like, maybe I'll do it in 10 minutes.

It's like, no. No, you're on. You're going and there's no pushing it back. Yes, yes, yes, yes. It's terrifying. Yeah, it back. Yes, yes, yes, yes. It's terrifying. Yeah, it is. And I haven't done theater in a long time, and I'm actually going to be doing a show in San Francisco in January. Oh, great.

And I'm really, really excited about it. It's called Wakey Wakey by Will Eno. And I have a lot of that kind of like, whoa, it's like riding a roller coaster, but so much of it is just keep walking day to day and do it. Because once you, there's that moment, and I'm sure you guys have been on stage or something, but it's like when you feel that comfort and you're riding that wave and it's like, oh, it's past the anxiety of it. Yeah, then it's just muscle memory. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it's just fun and you can find the joy in it. That's while you're doing a play in January.

Is it a new play? No, it's an old, not an old play. They did it in New York with Michael Emerson. And it's just a really beautiful play about this guy who's kind of in the last days of his life. And it's funny. Sounds hilarious. His death is hilarious. I'm also that guy, though, that's many times, this is going to get dark, but it's not.

I'm just kind of like want to stand up and be like, you know, we're all going to die, right? No, that's a relief to me. None of this matters. Because I do, I give power to shit that just doesn't matter. If you're dying, have an activity while you're doing it. Yeah, exactly. Just get distracted.

The white light's totally cool. That's my plan. I always have puzzles nearby for when I go. A little puzzle sure talk about just like meditative nothing

no but that is that's a relief to me to just yeah we're all gonna die and there's not oh yes yes yes and none of this will be remembered

and especially not this podcast for a minute I thought we were gonna get off the subject but let's stick with death you know I was telling this story

I think it might've been on Grace's podcast that I was doing. Grace Helbig? Helbig, yeah. And poor Kevin can't speak. No free rides. Kevin, our producer, he can. He doesn't want to be associated with us. Oh, sweet Kevin. But I was telling her this story and it's true. I remember meeting this producer that was just kind of a douchebag and just not really nice. And I did not do it, but I wanted to do it. Just walk up and be like, I was, I were drove by a graveyard the other day and we're all going there. Like, and your legacy is that you were a douchebag. If you want that to be your legacy,

keep walking in the direction you're going, but you can change that. Like you don't have to be like that. And it's like, because we, it's just when people are like they're they're mean or just off on that reputation you're like that's we're such a short time here yes this doesn't matter like you can change that yeah how you treat people is as that's that's that's the kind of longevity in people's life you can make a difference i don't know but he's gonna outlive all of us, unfortunately. That one producer is going to be 150. And to have so many Mercedes. I'm surprised when the older, when the people like that, douchebags, are older. Yeah.

You think they'd, through life experience, be mellow and kind of like, oh, you know what? I don't have to be such a hard ass. No, life has rewarded them for that. Yeah. But I do think that that's a testament to like not dealing with bitterness or not dealing with stuff. And then it just kind of turns into this like golem almost. Yes. They can't control it.

Oh, I love talking about this. Let's get into Game of Thrones now. Yeah. Well, Tony, I mean, we don't want to take up too much of your time, but if you have any. Well, I kind of like this. No, this is great. If you have any notes for like the overall process of being a guest on Conan. Get rid of like this. No, this is great. If you have any notes for the overall process of being a guest on Conan. Get rid of the curtains.

I think that was really helpful. Have a craft. I don't mind a curtain. I like a curtain. But I also like, I was, he got rid of the desk, I noticed. Yeah, how does that feel? I would think, it's interesting because I can understand where he's coming from. He wanted a change and, you know, something.

Right. And it definitely, it can probably create a wall between the guest and him. It kind of opens it up. But for a person who was doing it, I think I would like, it gives you like a security blanket. Protect him. Something to drum on. And it covers the gut, which I'm a fan of. Yeah, you're known for your.

My gut. your heavy body. Like a whippet. But notes like this, I feel like the team here is just so kind. Well, that's good to hear. I appreciate that. I think what we're saying is, how do you like the free stuff we give you? What is the free stuff we give you? And how does it compare like to other shows?

Yeah. Do you carry? Yeah. Cause we don't, we've never been a guest on another late night show. I will say, I recently, I actually, it was last year.

I taped it, but it recently aired. I was a guest on a RuPaul's drag race. Oh, great. And their swag. Oh boy. There was some really good

swag. I'm not saying that this is bad, but like, RuPaul, man, he steps it up with the gifts. Really? What did you get? How do I want that? If I go on again, I will, because it was a lot of stuff I couldn't use, but it was just the joy of getting it.

Yeah. But anyways, you guys do a nice fruit plate and a nice cheese plate, can of popcorn. Yeah, it is the good popcorn. And really nice flowers, which I'm a fan of flowers. Oh, this is so sad.

I know. No, are you kidding? That's not sad at all. So you create an environment that's very welcoming because hospitality is huge. Conan gives perishables. I think we get those flowers from local hospitals because they're done with them.

That's not... We re-gift everything. Yes. Maybe don't tell that. She's kidding. I'm totally kidding. Right? Yeah.

It might be the other way around. We might give them to hospitals. I'm curious what other tips people have said or what notes other guests have said. Well, we are the first person we've asked. We actually usually talk to people before they go on the show. So it's fun to have somebody after. Yes, yes. Because we get to find out how nervous they are and maybe make them a little more nervous before they go out.

Yeah. Oh, miss, you're kind of therapist a little bit. Sure. It's the opposite of a therapist. You are very generous with your words. How do they, I'm so curious. Are they present? Because many times it's probably tough knowing that they're going to go on to be present in this situation. Well, one thing people have actually said that it's helped them to kind of forget about the impending appearance.

Activity. Yeah, exactly. And it's kind of a warm up a little bit, you know, but it's true. Workshops and material. Yeah. Like if my tendency would be to avoid people before they're going on because I assume they're in their head wondering, thinking about what they're going to say on the show. But then you guys, I feel, probably feel compelled to laugh at something that might not be funny because you don't want, because if you don't laugh and they're like, well, I can't use that. I don't have anything.

Well, people don't, they don't try stuff. But then if we laugh, then they're going to use bad material on the show, and then it's our fault. Oh, but you just leave them high and dry. You're like, you've got to get a writer quick. And then we have to write for them. Cancel. Cancel. Walk out.

Diarrhea. We'll create a distraction, and you head for the car. Yes. What's your sort of pre-appearance process? Well, what's great is my wife is a makeup artist, so she's always, she does the kind of makeup. Was that how you met? We met at church, actually, in New York. Yeah, but wife is a makeup artist, so she's always, she does the kind of... Was that how you met? We met at church, actually, in New York. Oh! Yeah. But she was a makeup artist on Saturday Night Live.

And, but we met at this church, and she, but so she, when I do appearances, she does the grooming, the makeup. Oh, that's great. So it's nice, really, to have her. So she was here today. Yeah, she was here today, and she's just kind of a nice, peaceful place to, like, you know, kind of chill you out a little bit. That's great, and she, that's nice that she goes with today. Yeah, she was here today, and she's just kind of a nice, peaceful place to kind of chill you out a little bit.

That's great. And that's nice that she goes with you. Yeah. And it's really, really, really good. She's not like, ugh, I can't be bothered. Yeah. And she also understands. I love it because on SNL, she worked with so many comedians or people who got comedy.

Right. And so she understands the world and knows you've got to work on material and all that kind of stuff. She, I think she said something so interesting. She said a lot of things interesting, but one thing she said is any person that came on SNL, and I wonder if it's the same for Conan, any person that came on SNL always had the imposter theory that someone is going to find out that they're not supposed to be there, which I think is interesting.

That's such a relief to hear. Yeah. Like everybody has it. It's that sense of like, someone is going to find out that they've made a mistake. I shouldn't be here. Yes. I worry about the people that don't have that. Well, the producer guy.

He's fully on target. Oh, that's right, yeah. And just is the gift of the world. Let's get him on the air, that producer guy. Yeah, there's always one or two people where it's like, where's that insecurity? It's unearned confidence. Yeah. Yeah.

They got it. They're just medicating it. Yeah. And it's going to come out in their 70s. It's going to be a shit show. They're going to have anxiety attacks. Yeah. And that's when you're going to leapfrog in front of them.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I would love to kind of be a fly on the wall and watching the kind of pre, like seeing people kind of going into it. That would be interesting. Yeah, I know. I do. No one's really told us that they do anything weird, but I know someone does something weird. There's got to be people that are like, I got to do 100 pushups or.

It is weird. Like, do they, have they ever said, I found this with myself. My voice feels very strong and then when I get on a talk show it tends to go like raspy or I kind of lose a little of my vocal quality and I think it's anxiety or something because it's like I get kind of it doesn't feel as free yeah so the show in San Francisco is gonna be great I'm really looking is there a way that the audience could just be like in a different room And watching you on a screen or something Yeah there is a way to do that

Just not show up to the show You mentioned the raspy voice That makes me wonder Do you watch your appearances on TV Like on a talk When you're being yourself Yeah if I feel pretty good about them I'll watch them

Yeah like will you go to a bar tonight and be like, turn on TBS. What if I had a full party? Oh my God. Just the narcissism. Yeah. That's funny. Right guys.

Not good. And everybody just, everybody's just forced to watch this. This is where they, and then you play this podcast. Yeah. It's only a half hour. So we're going to watch it twice.

I don't actually watch. I watch, uh, like, yeah, I'll watch this. And's only a half hour, so we're going to watch it twice. I don't actually watch, I watch, uh, like, yeah, I'll watch this and then I'll watch the shows I've done once. Cause I'm curious how they cut it together. And I typically don't watch stuff twice to the point where if arrested or

people come up to me and our fans come up and say, Oh, I love when you, or love what this storyline or the rest of it, especially, I typically have no idea what they're talking about. And I'm like, I'm like, please keep talking. Cause I have no idea what you're talking about.

Cause you've only watched it a normal number of times. Yeah. Or just like, which I, cause then I've also like, I don't know, being in it, you just, I just kind of watched it once, but like even, I remember there was this one joke and I was doing a podcast and it was in front of an audience. And it was the joke where my hand gets eaten off by a seal and taken to the hospital. And I thought it was so funny because the doctor comes out and goes, oh, he's going to be he's going to be OK. And everybody goes, who he goes, but he lost one of his hands.

Ha ha ha ha. Well, when I did that, someone in the audience goes, no, no. He said he's going to be all right. Meaning he's only going to be right-handed. That was 15 years after I shot the show. Never got the joke. So it's like people, like I get stuff like that later that they informed me of. Wait, so in the scene, you didn't, you weren't aware that that was the joke? In the scene, I didn't get it. And when I watched it later, because he comes out and he goes, oh, he's gonna be

alright, and everybody goes, ah, and then he goes, but he's literally just, he's gonna just have a right hand. But for some reason I thought he said okay, and I just thought it was funny that he was so nonchalant about it. Right. I mean, it does sort of, it operates on both levels, but. It does, but I mean, I just like, thank you for watching

the show that I should have watched and read the Swedish script. It was worth the wait. It's better to wait the 15 years. You thought that that was a drama. You didn't even know there were jokes. We're not doing law and order. It's a hospital drama. Well, we have a gift for you. Oh, did I already see it? Yeah. What is it? It's a t-shirt. By the is it? It's a t-shirt.

What is it, Wiseguy? It's a t-shirt. By the way, I love me a t-shirt. You do? I love me a t-shirt. Well, don't speak too soon. Is it teal? I hope you're small.

We had to rummage around. Is it a real large or a hipster large? It's a collector's item. We knew that we probably didn't give you enough free stuff. We did a week of shows in Dallas in 2014. This is so fantastic. Is it better than RuPaul? By the way, I cannot tell you how this is so not going to fit my body.

But my daughter will love it. Your daughter is going to love it. It could be a night shirt. Actually, it really could be. Conan Dallas for a child. Oh, good. It could be a night shirt. Actually, it really could be. Yeah. Conan Dallas for a child. Yes, it's perfect. No, the sad thing is, not the sad thing, even you giving this to me gives me a bump of joy.

That's great. Oh, good. I'm just like, for me? Well, thank you. This is fantastic. Thank you. Thank you so much. So delightful. I loved it.

You guys are very kind. And that's what matters. Thank you, Tony. Thank matters. Thank you, Tony. Thank you so much. Matt O'Brien. Hi. Hi, Matt. Am I before or after Tony Hale?

Well. Let's see how this goes and see if you're even on the podcast. You know what? Very presumptuous. That is fair. Do you have a preference? That is fair. No, I know you guys need content.

Well, I think our plan was to have you second, which means you're headlining. I'm headlining, yes. I'm doing the check spot. Tony's opening for you. I'm doing the check spot. And that can go in your resume. Tony Hale's open for you. Yeah. Tony Hale open for me.

Two-time Emmy Award winning actor. This is already a win for me. Exactly. You should quit now. I'll just walk away. Well, thank you for being here. Thanks for having me. This is very exciting.

This is exciting. You were supposed to be on yesterday. I was. But then your kids were more important than our podcast. Something happened. I have twins, and we had a bit of a scheduling emergency with bath time, so I had to leave. Yeah. You know, we can go.

You want to talk about bath time the whole episode? Can't they go a day without bathing? They could. It's more about the ritual. It's about the ritual. How dirty can they get? It's not like they work out. They're not even two and they're filthy.

We let them outside in the morning and we bring them inside in the evening. By the end, they're quite soiled. But a ritual, does this have a religious significance to you and your family? Are you a Hindi? We're a Roman family and the importance of bathing in opulent you Hindi? We're a Roman family. Yes. And the importance of bathing in opulent baths is

prized in our family. You can understand why I missed the podcast. You're grooming them to be gladiators. You know, being on a podcast is a privilege. You don't just blow it. It's not like everyone in LA is

constantly on podcasts all the time. A rare opportunity. I meant to say doing a podcast on Wednesday at 6pm was a privilege that you just booted away. Wow. So this is my farewell appearance on this podcast. Are you kidding me? You'll be on every week. Great. Well, and yeah, thank you for coming on because I think we've wanted to kind of clear the air with you because there's a little bit. Yes. I can feel there's there's a lot of tension in the room.

Jesse has more than I enjoy that. You're continuously. Well, let me. Well, I feel like the podcast is a little bit at odds with the production of our actual show. So my responsibility is to make sure that the show gets on the air with, uh, the television, the television show,

right? The linear television show. Some people call it the future. Right. Um, the linear television show that people, uh, sit down at their couch at 11 PM and turn on the television and say,

no one bother me. It's 11 PM. And now I watch Conan. I'm going to watch my stories. I'm sure that he has, as usual, enough material prepared. His writers weren't torn in different directions by things, frivolous things like podcasts or editing travel remotes. Right. Because it's appointment television.

It's appointment television. That's correct. So I, yes. So you feel that the writing has suffered without me being torn into direction. Correct. There's been a precipitous drop in laughs since this podcast started. Right. No.

So the writers on the show are responsible for producing their own comedy, writing and producing their own comedy. So Jesse is a very prolific, funny writer and gets a lot of, she really is. She is. And so, uh, there's been times where, um, I say,

okay, where is Jesse? Let's, uh, rehearse a bit that she's, uh, written and pitched and, and it's been approved and ready to go.

Uh, sorry, she's not available. She's recording the inside Conan podcast. Right. And I'm out there fighting for my life. And I become filled with anger. But this show, it's a very public office where you're in front of people a lot.

So I have to very politely nod and say, that's great. Yeah. I hope it's going well. And then you go punch a hole in your wife's going well. You're reminding me of it. And then you go punch a hole in your wife. I do. You're reminding me of a time. Like any good Irish Catholic.

I bottle it up and later it comes out in unhealthy ways. You're reminding me of a time when I was the head writer and you took off and made up a story. How dare you? Wait. I forget what your story was, your cover story, but I believe it was a wedding far, far away. I went to a wedding. Oh, was this a famous wedding?

It was a... So, well, we stopped in New York. My wife and I stopped in New York. Oh, that's it. And you said, oh, we're going to New York, and you forgot to mention the B-side of the story. I forgot to mention that there was also a wedding in Italy. Right.

On the second half of the trip. So, technically, I didn't lie. You ran off. Did people find out by seeing you on TMZ? No, that's a gross exaggeration. Someone somehow got Sweeney a picture of us in Italy. And I had spies everywhere. Yes.

And, and called me and said, you've been, you've been found out. So how do you project onto Jesse? That kind of, you're projecting. You're right.

She learned it from me. Jesse is trying to get the word out on the linear show with this podcast. That's right. For all those people. I have to say, I out on the linear show with this podcast. That's right. For all those people. I have to say, I was on at 11 PM. I, there are lots of fans of,

of our podcast who have never heard of. I did not realize I, I came in here thinking this would be a genial conversation. It is now. It's become a two on one combative dog fight. Well, why, why should this be different from where you truly are

fighting for your life for my life but you're great you have great rehearsal strategy sure sure you know what it is is actually now that it's just an adjustment it used to be that we only did the TV show right yeah now we do podcast now we do the travel travel specials. And everybody is doing more to keep those plates spinning. Conan most of all. Conan most of all. So, yes, I mean, we were just talking the other day that Conan hasn't shot a stateside local remote in several months, which is something we always relied on and like to do. Bread and butter, yeah.

Because he's doing a podcast, because he's doing these travel specials um there just hasn't literally has not been time he's hanging out with michelle obama michelle obama yeah robert carrow you know other luminaries right yeah you can you can imagine why those should just be remotes we should just send a camera crew. To him hanging out with celebrities. With Robert Caro, yeah. Robert Caro. Come on. That's what people want to watch on their phones.

He's at a tech conference with his children or, you know, I think his son is into coding. That's going on now? That's cool. Well, no, he just is always, I said, what are you doing this weekend? I'm going to a coding conference with my son. Wow. He must really love it. It's a glamorous thing.

No, I'll say, I'll let the fans know. A coding conference. That was more important than shooting a remote in the office. Sure. Well, we have to get him to do, what do we do? How do we bring pressure to bear? Well, I think once this episode is out there, there'll be a groundswell of public pressure for him to shoot something local. Or else he could get impeached.

I could see there being sit-ins during the show. We'll tell Michelle Obama to stay away from the West Coast and Robert Caro to stay away. Question, were you this combative with Tony Hale? Am I being combative? Well, I just feel like I'm being attacked. No. No, no, no. Not at all.

I really, I want to apologize to you. Oh, please. I'm just kidding. No, it's been, it has been difficult. That's literally, but that's how we handle everything at the show is if there's some sort of conflict, we turn it into a joke. Yeah, we joke about it. A joke.

I'm being insecure because I thought you were going to attack me. I would never. I apologize. I learn from the best from you. Yes. Well, I want to just point out that there, I don't know how often we get to have two former head writers or former head writer and current head writer together. This is sort of like. Yes.

Conan calls us Carter and Ford. I'm more Spiro Agnew. I'm Haldeman. I was wondering, what was the sort of... I mean, how did the handover of power go? Was there a training session? Did Sweeney give Matt a binder with some training material well No, I mean the show had at that point been on the air for I think 23 years, right so

There's a certain amount of stuff that just runs itself so it was No, it was when you had been a writer on the show for how long? Since tooth, since right before the writer striking was a 2007, 2008, something like that. Right. Yeah. In New York, the last, the last year and a half of the New York show. Yeah. And, um, actually you just told me, I did not know this, that you and I sort of met 20 years ago. We did. That's a great point. So I went and saw a tape. Is this a 9-11 story?

There's so many. I was covering Sweeney's shift at Windows of the World. Are we going to edit that out? The Windows of the World thing? We'll see. It's up to you. So far they haven't. They feel that's what people want to hear is our oblique 9-11 references. This show is mostly conspiracy theories.

Oh, right. So when I was in college, I guess I was probably 20 years old, probably 98, I went and saw a taping of Late Night with Conan O'Brien on Thanksgiving. Larry King was the guest, John Lovitz, I think as well. And Mike Sweeney was the warmup comic. Oh yeah. And came out and went right after me and called me a brooding sociopath. Yeah.

Yeah. Which to this day, my parents say is the most accurately anyone has ever described me in the moment. That's why I did the warmup. I could, I really sized people up quickly. He can read people very quickly. Yeah, yeah. And from there, I quietly bottled that up and said, one day. And you thought, I want to be somewhere where I get called that daily. Right.

I want someone to run with that. One day, I will tell the world on a podcast about that shameful moment. I'm sorry. You were playing the long game. It makes me question how I warmed up the audience. They're like, oh, thank God that awful man, insulting man went away. And now we're happy to see Conan. Look at this huge fan of the show.

Fuck you, buddy. Hey, man, you're a brooding sociopath. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. I think anybody who's listening that knows me is just nodding politely in traffic. No, you're a big cuddly teddy bear. Sure. Oh, yeah.

You're one of the more human people who works here, I would say. Wow. Yeah. That's come across so far. That is really grading on a curve for this crew. For this place, Matt is great. Really wonderful, warm guy for this place. He hasn't thrown one fit today.

No. So, Matt, what is your experience of being a head writer? Do you like it? I do, of course. Like I said, I took over. It's been three and a half years. The show, again, had been on for 22 years. So there wasn't the hard task of trying to, like, what's the show going to be?

How are we going to sustain it every day? The sensibility was already established. The host is a pro. The writers know what they're doing. The production staff knows what they're doing. Did you come in with any big, bold ideas? Big, bold ideas. Right, like wanting to shake? Because there are things that are traditionally, well, this is how we do it. Sure. No, to be quite honest, it's more you feel like you're being handed a franchise and you don't want it. You don't want the quality to dip.

You just want to keep it hopefully as good as it's been, because I admire Conan and the show and I've been a huge fan of the show for a long time. So it was more about do not. I hope this is not a turning point for the show where things drop off noticeably. There's a before Matt and after Matt. Exactly. So since I've taken over, the show has been cut in half. My plan is going perfectly. So, no, it's an enjoyable job. It's a, it's a kind of a, it's just a grind. It's a grind. It's a difficult daily grind because you're doing, you're writing a show from scratch every single day. And we don't necessarily rely on the news and do over the shoulder graphic jokes. slate each day, which can be advantageous, but also very difficult because you're, you

don't have that refillable format to necessarily rely on. If it's a slow news day, if the news is very dark, you know, it's, it's hard to come out and do silly subversive comedy while things are in such crisis, you know, in our country, in our government, you know, that, that kind of thing. And when we switched over for, I mean, when Conan got rid of having a desk on the set, we literally got rid of desk pieces. Desk pieces. We, that's right.

We are, someone asked me how much less comedy we're doing and we're actually not doing, I actually looked at the old run. It feels like the same amount. It's the same amount of comedy. We're just not peppering in refillable,able celebrity survey and all those old desk pieces. Which is great because those would always kind of almost be crutches in a way. A little bit. They're always funny, but no one was under the impression that we weren't kind of filling time.

Right. And when you do four shows a week, you have to do some of those. That's why they're a staple of any one of filling time. Right. You know, and when you do four shows a week, you know, you kind of have to, you have to do some of those. That's why they're a staple of any one of these shows. Well, I, would you come back? Of course. Yeah. This is really fun.

I enjoyed, this is the most I've talked to either of you. That's true. Yeah. No, and I do. And I think we covered a lot of ground. We didn't really get into that much about what a head writer does. So we will have to have you back. Sure.

I'm going to be happy to talk to you about it. Yeah. I'd like to learn. There might be aspiring head writers out there. Sure. And you can warn them against it. I hope people enjoy the show and I haven't screwed it up. I think the takeaway is sometimes your job is so hard, you're late for bath time.

There's your log line for the podcast. Oh, my God. Two million downloads. Well, thank you, Matt. Yes, thanks, Matt. Have a good show today. All right. And now, Tony Hale. Well, that was head writer Matt O'Brien.

Very, very exciting to have someone with such a prestigious title. Yes. And it was very brave of him to come on here after we... Mostly you. Bagged on him in the intro. Yeah. Which he doesn't know about yet. No, he doesn't.

Because... And he'll never listen to this. No, he won't. He doesn't have time. He's too busy in the intro. Yeah. Which he doesn't know about yet. No, he doesn't. Because... And he'll never listen to this. No, he won't. He doesn't have time. He's too busy. Head writing. He's so resentful about this podcast, he'll never listen. So now we have some suggestions from our very smart and sexy listeners.

You all called in and told us where we should go next for our travel show. Made really good suggestions. Let's listen to some of them right now, strung together. Hi Jesse, hi Mike. If you're still taking suggestions for the next Conan remote, I'm going to throw Philippines and Philippines into the ring.

Conan can come here around May when it's the Pahayas Festival and I can turn him around. It's just two towns away from my city. He's probably going to burn, though, since it's summer here during May. So, yeah, I hope you come here in the Philippines. So my name's Eileen, and I think you should go to the island of Malta. My family comes from Malta.

My grandfather was born and raised there. And I just think that for Conan, it would be a great history experience for him and the show. Got to go visit Valletta, ride the yellow buses. Got to

go visit Gozo. Hey, my name is Mike. I live in Port San Luis Potos. I just listened to the podcast. I live in Port St. Lucie, Florida. I just listened to the podcast. I wanted to make a recommendation for the next Cone Without Borders. I think it would be awesome if you guys went to Thailand. Obviously, you could do Bangkok and Phuket and Chiang Mai and all the touristy stuff, but there are also literally millions of undocumented workers that are living in southern Thailand working in the rubber plantations where we get a lot of in southern Thailand working in the

rubber plantations where we get a lot of our rubber from here in the states. They live really really difficult lives that just working crazy hours and are often assaulted and even sometimes murdered by the police and this isn't really covered anywhere. So I think that'd be a really cool interesting coming without borders and would also be a good way to draw attention to these people who are really suffering and living difficult lives Hey, aloha guys, my name

is Evan Nesto, I live on the Big Island in Hawaii and it's a great place, 13 different microclimates, you know, you can get around plus it's a fun place to go since you guys get the quote unquote free trip out of it it's killer here, and it's a fun place to go you know since you guys get the quote-unquote free trip out of it uh it's killer here and it's fun and the island is a ton of treasures just things that are not

on the radar for tourists it's really cool anyway um you guys should come out to the big island it'd be nice to see y'all out here it's very fun hey y'all um i'm a big fan of the podcast. And this week, y'all asked for people to call in and maybe suggest places for the next trip. And I was going to suggest, I think logistically this one might be hard to work out, but China and then more specifically Chengdu. I don't know if y'all have been there. But to, like, see the people. Like, really hilarious because half the time they just poop. Like, you go there and you just watch them poop and their poop is, like, yellow and green and all. Wow.

Okay. Oh, so we need to clarify that that last recording cuts out. The audio dropped out. It's not your podcast. At a very, I think, integral part because we did not find out who delivers the yellow poo no i hope he was talking about animals yeah i'd have no idea yeah that makes me i think we have to go there yeah what could be more compelling than to find mystery the mystery yellow yes yellow poo wow oh i know i mean i I almost want to ask that person to call back and clarify, but I kind of just want it to exist the way it was.

What if he just saw a cracked egg and thought it was... And their poo comes in a shell and it breaks open. You got to go to Chengdu. Yeah, those were a lot of fun suggestions. Those were great. Ernesto suggested the big island of Hawaii, which I don't know a lot of fun suggestions. Those were great. Ernesto suggested the Big Island of Hawaii, which I don't know a lot of people know

has broken off and formed its own country. Its own country. But I'm, I think I'd be fine with... I would go to the Big Island anytime. Yeah. It does have... So we could stretch our, we could do each of the Hawaiian islands as a different travel show. That would be great. That's seven countries in one trip. And then

there's the island of Malta. I know Malta, I'm sure I've learned about and I always forget, is it its own country or does it belong to? I know they didn't they stage the Crusades there? Do you know anything about Malta? I think, yeah, it must be its own

country. I guess. The way the big island is. Yeah, maybe. And then Thailand. Thailand. Exposed the plight of the undocumented rubber workers. I think he thought he was calling Anderson Cooper. I think so, too.

We may not be equipped. I don't think he's ever seen the Conan show. We've got to get Conan on this and maybe Andy Richter too to handle labor oppression in Thailand. Oh, we can't help anybody. And then the Philippines, which, yeah, there's a lot of people from the Philippines in Los Angeles. So, I think that would be a fan favorite here in town. That would be great. I think that would be a terrific visit. And then we also got a lot of suggestions from people who emailed us. Yeah, some great suggestions.

Russia. South Africa. Vegas. That must have been Ernesto again. No, I think that that's accurate. I think Vegas is more foreign to me than any of the other countries. I would go to Atlantic City first. But sure, Vegas.

We have the wilderness with Bear Grylls. Okay. Any wilderness. Conan just did a wilderness bit in Australia. He did. But it wasn't real. I mean, we were never actually at risk, I think. We wanted more danger.

I did, yeah. Let's be honest. Yeah, I wanted them drinking their own pee. Exactly. Wanted it to last five days. Sorry. Poland. Poland, yeah.

Amsterdam. Amsterdam's very, very interesting. France. Sure. That sounds nice. London. Also nice. These are just places I want to go.

We're just reading a list of countries. Cayman Islands. The Cayman Islands for scuba diving. India. A lot of people mention India. Yes. We've gotten a lot of requests for India. And Canada.

Canada. That'll, amazing contrast. We're allowed to go there. And then a country that won't exist in 50 years due to climate change. Ew. Ooh. Now, that's another person thinking they're emailing The Daily Show and not Conan O'Brien. Well, these are all great suggestions.

I know. Thank you all. Yeah, terrific. Thank you very much. And we're not going to take any of them. None of them. No, just kidding. But actually-

Keep the suggestions coming. These are really great. These were good. None of them. No, just kidding. But actually, keep the suggestions coming. These are really great. These were good. Yeah. Yeah. And we'll give you full credit if we go to your country. No, we won't.

We won't remember. And that's our show. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. We had a great time. We did. And I hope you did too.

And yeah, if you do want to call us or email us, oh gosh, hold on. I don't know the number. Russell, Russell. 911?

No, that's not it. Do not call 911 and leave comments. I know that the email is insideconanpod at gmail.com. Oh, well, there you go. I was giving out the wrong email for a while. And so people were telling me that they were emailing the wrong one. Oh, okay. That's a good way to learn it.

I told my therapist to email us a question. And I think she did it. Okay, and then our phone number is 323-209-5303. That's my home number. Uh-oh. Sorry, Cynthia. Anyway, we will see you all next week. See you next week.

Stay groovy. We like you. Inside Conan, an important Hollywood podcast is hosted by Mike Sweeney and me, Jesse Gaskell. Produced by Kevin Bartelt. Engineered by Will Becton. Mixed by Ryan Connor. Supervising producer is Aaron Blair. Associate producer, Jen Samples. Executive produced by Adam Sachs and Jeff Ross.

Jeff Ross. Jeff Ross and Team Coco. And Colin Anderson and Chris Bannon at Earwolf. Thanks to Jimmy Vivino for our theme music and interstitials. You can rate and review the show on Apple Podcasts. And of course, please subscribe and tell a friend to listen to Inside Conan on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, or whatever platform you like

best! This has been a Team Coco production in association with Earwolf.