Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Andrew Santino

Episode Date: June 23, 2020

Andrew Santino (Dave, Whiskey Ginger) joins me this week to talk about the compromises and sacrifices that he and his loved ones have had to make in pursuit of his career in Hollywood after leaving th...e Midwest. Santino also opens up on the dynamic between him and his biological and step father, having to come to terms with the reality of his relationships in adulthood. We get into the anxieties of comedians, his opinion on the court of public opinion, and exactly how he handles day to day stress. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:43 Last week was Mental Health Week for Inside of You. And if you haven't listened to it, you should because it's free therapy and these women are amazing therapists. And I read the comments and it sounded like everybody really, really enjoyed it. And I'm so happy. And they were my therapist. so and they are my therapists and uh hearing exactly if i talk beforehand about his um how it saved his life and saved mine mine in a lot of ways but but it's a non uh it's something that you just have to keep doing and keep working on yourself i don't think you just go to therapy and go
Starting point is 00:02:16 oh i'm fixed uh if you don't implement you know routine and structure in your life um also my sister she's working hard right now trying to you know keep routine and uh diet and all these things and um I'm wishing her the best. I like to see people just putting one foot in front of the other. I get so down to myself because I definitely, you know, you take a step forward, two steps back. I think it was a song. I'll take one step forward. I'll take two steps back.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Who was that? I'm sure you're going to tell me. You guys are going to let me know. Just I get overwhelmed. The little things. I've got to figure that out. Why is it that the little things? I just go, oh, I can't figure this out.
Starting point is 00:02:58 I can't figure this out. It's not like, it's like all day, but I just, I don't like that feeling. And then I start saying, why are you feeling like this? Let's, let's, uh, okay, let's do something about it. Let's fucking breathe. Take deep breaths. Walk outside. Get out of your head.
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Starting point is 00:05:13 gone with my good friend John Heater and Napoleon Dynamite? and we talk horror movies reviews we tons of fun shit just go check it out it's easy um i think that's pretty much it you know by the way um you know i could sit here and talk about all these things that are going on in the world and the thing is is you hear them i think you know you know i have a lot of love i've put instagrams out there i've uh i donate i do whatever i can i feel like you know on my podcast i just try not to get political i try not to get uh I just want you guys to, you know, anxiety and depression aren't something that could be political. I mean, they are.
Starting point is 00:05:53 I mean, because there needs to be more done about mental health. But what I'm saying is this is a show where I hope you learn from my guest and you get something out of it. And we talk about things that, you know, they faced. So if I don't talk politics, I hope you don't get mad. But it's just, I don't know enough about them anyway. And I'll end up sounding like an idiot. And so I just choose not. too. This guest is hilarious. I've seen him do comedy. I've done stand-up comedy with him.
Starting point is 00:06:23 He's got a huge podcast, bad friends. Andrew Santino, funny man. We really talk about, it's nice to hear about that, you know, his family life, how it all happened for him, his attitude towards the media. And I really enjoyed this one. He's a, he's a funny guy. So I hope you enjoy this as much as I did. Let's get into it. to Andrew Santino. just um what's terrible about it just an original because the great santini was a magician santino is a respectful he's a respectful comedian so you're going to say he's a respectful comedian i'm a respectful comedian and and my last and the last name is um it means something santino means
Starting point is 00:07:34 uh massive foot i don't i don't believe that it does look it up massive foot in italian santian but there was a movie called the great santini yeah the great santini is a magician. Santini was a magician. But that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying there was a movie called The Great Santini wasn't about a musician, a magician. What was it about? It was about the great Santini. He was, uh, he was like, uh, in the military and he was like really hard on his family. Oh my God. Hold on one second. I've got my, um, Robert Deval. Look at my housemaid just brought me my steak and eggs. Thank you, housemaid. Your housemate. My house made. My my maid. Yeah, she comes down to my sex dungeon and brings me. She's going to be mad. That's my
Starting point is 00:08:11 wife and she's going to be pissed off that I made that joke. That's it. That's it for me. Will she really be upset by that? No, no, she won't. She doesn't have a choice. She puts up with a lot from you. Yeah, but good though, right? I'm asking you. I mean, she does. She puts up with a ton from me. I'm going to eat during this. I feel like this is only appropriate because of what's going on in the world to eat during this. Yeah. That's good. Because I was, I was marching all night. That's a lie. I don't believe you were out there. No, we live in the suburbs. Did you protest at all? Honestly, I didn't go down there. No. Did you? you do I feel should I feel bad is I'm so mean eating we don't have to record right now I just
Starting point is 00:08:49 want to say hi to you for a second before we go yeah want to eat for a minute I want to eat and talk let's just eat and talk and see what we get out of this how were you really feeling about this whole thing honest it's all over the place immediately pissed off and just disgusted when I see that guy kneeling on George Floyd's neck and and him begging for his life just honestly disgusted There's no, you can't, I can't believe anyone would have a different opinion on that. I just, I won't even hear it. I don't think anybody does. I think if anybody does, it's all fabrication for the sensationalism of media and, and, um, and, uh, just for clickbait.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Like, if somebody put something out there being like, this isn't that bad, it's them clickbait. They just want to get attention to whatever they're doing. I don't buy that anyone doesn't see stuff like that and doesn't get disgusted. get sick i just don't i don't buy well i i'm sure there are people out there who are just so racist that they're they love it maybe yeah i yeah there's sick people out there that's unfortunately you know that's sort of my point is like you're not going to change the sickos you're not going to change the people who look at someone differently because of the color of the skin you're we're never going to change that there's we're not going to just wake up it doesn't matter
Starting point is 00:10:02 i mean i think it doesn't matter who your leader is but i just don't there's it's how you're raised if i ever said the n-word or a gay thing in front of on my parents a gay joke my parents wouldn't stand for that shit they just wouldn't stand now comedians you could do certain things i'm telling you that shit didn't fly in my house you couldn't make an off-color joke in your home that just wasn't the way it goes no i couldn't say something that was derogatory i mean look i think everybody like you hear it people say it your kids you're trying to fit in you're doing things i grew up in indiana uh but overall i just didn't think like that i wasn't it's how you're raised man
Starting point is 00:10:41 You know, my parents, I think if they would have been like, think about it. Like, how many people agree with what their parents say? If their parents are conservative, they become conservative. If their parents are liberal hippies or whatever, they sort of have that liberal mentality. Don't you agree with that? To a degree. But then I think also there's that teenage, um, that like teenage angst rebellion shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Oftentimes people come back around to, you know, being how their parents are. But also. If you're educated enough or you're smart enough or you have enough insight. I think what it comes down to, honestly, because education. education gets thrown around people like, oh, if you're educated, I genuinely think my opinion is people who, this sounds cliche, but people who travel. And I mean that in a sense of like, not like, well, I'm not saying like,
Starting point is 00:11:27 I went to Spain for my senior, you know, like, no, I mean like, when you get out of your own area, element, yeah. Even if you travel to two states away and you see other cultures and other people and how they live, I think you begin to open up. your mental state as far as like, oh, there's a lot of different, there's a lot of different kinds of subcultures across this country. And you think about that as a microcosm of the world. But who does that? What percentage of people? I don't know anybody in Indiana or Kentucky or where I grew up and went to college. Most folks just stuck around there. That was the whole
Starting point is 00:12:04 thing. I almost stayed there and worked at grocery store or a pump gas. I was going to do that. So most people don't get out. Imagine you as a gas pumper would be incredible. You would have been the best gas pumper, the most handsome gas pumper on this side of the Mason-Dixon. You think so? Yeah, man, you're a handsome boy. You got a nice chin, you got great teeth.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Yeah, dude, no, I agree with you. I think a lot of people don't travel outside of their own comfort zone. But I think that's more than education. I think you can be educated about the history and the trauma of this country racially and still not really feel that different about it because your bubble is really nice. And when you get out of your bubble, I think is the only way that you can actually see
Starting point is 00:12:48 how the world operates. I mean that, whether that influences you negatively or positively. Well, you know, you say that. What I think about is this, if your parents suck, if your parents teach you to hate, if they teach you to say that, oh, this color is, these are bad people,
Starting point is 00:13:06 these are these look at these we're superior hopefully hopefully you have some really amazing teachers that that tell you differently and they and you and you go with what they say you know so hopefully if you have shitty teachers and you have shitty parents you're fucked your parents no no no what were your parents my dad had no patience he wouldn't be my teacher what were your parents how do you not know that path problem are you an idiot i can do this backwards that's my What did your dad do? He worked at a pharmaceutical company, you know, so... Big pharma?
Starting point is 00:13:41 I mean, you know, he was like a plant... He became a plant manager, so growing up, like, he worked at pharmaceutical companies, and he was making no money. We were living in duplexes in New York and then Connecticut, and finally when we moved to Indiana, things started to get better for us. What city in Indiana? Evansville, Indiana. I know it well.
Starting point is 00:13:57 As a Chicago kid, we have a lot of love for Indiana. That's where we could go buy cigarettes and gas for cheap. I love Chicago. You go to the boy across the border. You get yourself some cigarettes. gas you can get all sorts of stuff indiana was always so much cheaper than chicago it was always such a nice little uh a respite for uh for the priciness of the city and then if people uh from indiana came to chicago we liked them because they were simple folk yeah i by the way i love i love the people
Starting point is 00:14:22 i go back and i just i have a lot of good friends and family a lot of people i just love to see and just you know what it is when you go back i don't know if you feel this way when you go back to chicago you go back to indiana immediately i don't know what it is you just kind of feel like Oh, dude, I love going home. I'm waiting for the day that I can get rich enough to just move and leave L.A. and not have to be here anymore. I like L.A. a lot, but I just want to go home sometimes. I think that's how I'm sort of getting to that point where I just,
Starting point is 00:14:51 I think, look, you tell me, we're inside of you today, Santino, great Santino. But, you know, coming from, like, Illinois, coming from like these, this Midwestern atmosphere and then coming out here and then becoming a big comedian and getting a big show and do movies and TV and all these things like don't you think you've lost some of yourself honestly do you think you've become something that you're like god you know it's not that i hate myself but there's a certain element that i just feel like i'm forcing things or i'm or i'm just always anxious or i'm always trying to be better in the in the best and chasing something like that anything that makes life a little shittier i don't know i mean i could i don't know what else
Starting point is 00:15:32 i would be doing like what else am i going to do well i'm not saying that i'm saying that i'm say more like the just the that pressure the pressure of uh you know being great the pressure of uh success yeah but i guess what i'm saying what my i guess my what i'm saying by that is like if i didn't have that pressure who would i what would i be this is the only thing that drives me that fuels me as far as like a career goes as a human being i think i haven't changed my my compass hasn't changed as far as what i like and dislike and my morals and ethics i think those things kind of stayed pretty solid. I don't think any of that stuff changed when I came out here at all. But I think like, you know, I just feel like this is the only thing I've ever loved
Starting point is 00:16:15 and ever been good at. So the negatives that come along with it, like all the pressure and all that stuff, it's a part of the thing. Because that's the payment you have to pay to live the life that we get to live, which is I get to fucking make people laugh for money. It's the fucking greatest gig on earth. So I don't, so I don't care that it comes with a lot of anxiety. I don't care that it comes. I don't care that it comes with some sacrifices in life because anything great or anything worth it, you're going to have to sacrifice. Name any person that's done anything of any substance that didn't sacrifice something. It doesn't exist.
Starting point is 00:16:46 So I just feel like if losing certain elements of my life are the sacrifice for this freedom that I get to just like use my brain to make money and make people laugh and that's like my literal job, then fucking I'll take the sacrifice. Do you let it overwhelm you? Does your wife ever say, you've got to go see a therapist? Or you've got to go go for a run. You've got to work out. You've got to do something.
Starting point is 00:17:09 You're honestly too much. Yeah, but I kind of check myself. I know better. I run almost every day, like anywhere from like four to seven miles a day. So that's my, I do that myself. Like I know when I'm overwhelming and I'm like, all right, I got to go. And I just take off. I do it all the time.
Starting point is 00:17:23 I go for a drive. I know when I'm too much. But like, I don't ever, I find if it's damaging me or my friendships or relationships or whatever, you know and you just have to, like, put yourself in time out and just kind of step back a little bit, you know? Like, I've never let it,
Starting point is 00:17:41 I've never, let Hollywood take over me. I've never been like, you know, fuck my friends, I'm just going to, you know, I'm going to be on this solo path and do what it. No, but has my work ethic or drive or whatever kind of been a hindrance on personal and love relationships? Absolutely. but this again comes with the territory i don't think i've sacrificed anything major for it you know i've
Starting point is 00:18:06 never like i've never destroyed something just so i could build myself up more so i've never done that but i think it all comes to the territory you know what i mean i think that that she knows she's been along for the ride for a long time so she knows the nonsense that it comes along with us of late nights at going out and doing shows and every day working and weekends you're gone and I think they I think she understands you know what I mean it's it's something that you kind of you you know you it's a it's a compromise for sure on on the the wife or husband of a comedian is it's such a compromise you have to know what they're getting into it's it's it's tough but it's like if you're aware of it and you're honest about it and you're not because I get upset when so
Starting point is 00:18:48 oh my god Rosenbaum oh yeah center of attention I used to be like fuck you I'm not the What the fuck? And then I realized, no, you are, you fucking idiot. That's part of you. You want to go into a room and you're insecure about something, your looks, your personality. So what do you do? I want everybody to think I'm funny. And then they'll like me.
Starting point is 00:19:05 That's been embedded in me since I'm a kid. So I think once you accept those flaws and no matter what people say about them, you're like, okay, you can't let them hurt you because they're actually what hurt you is usually true, isn't it? Yeah, I mean, that's probably, that's where the insecurity comes from. Something about it is real. But it's funny that as you get older, the insecurity. is um uh the insecurities change you know like when you're a kid like when i'm a kid it's like
Starting point is 00:19:30 oh red hair and it's like oh red hair fire cross all that stuff that you're like like annoyed about and then you get older and it's like that stuff couldn't hurt me if you try i mean there's no there's no name you could make fun of me that would hurt my feelings it's like really did i've there's nothing you don't know this is i hurt me more than you could ever hurt what what i'm foot thick foot no i don't know what santino really means i kind of want to look it up now that I lied to you about that I believed you you fuck my I'm naive I'm so gullible I know I know well actually Santino is um uh Santino is a meaning of the name and I apologize for eating on this I just have Neaton today and this segment is going to really
Starting point is 00:20:09 bore people so tell us what Santino means they're going to really love to hear this the name of the meaning Santino there we go folks the etymology historical Santino is the Italian pet form of Santo the Italian word for saint that's right okay see so it means sacred saint Santino essentially means little saint a diminutive form Santino means little saint or just saint so I'm the shit and what does Rosenbaum mean I think it means another Jewish guy red tree one more Jew that's what it means
Starting point is 00:20:36 Red tree I uh you know it's funny because my I got a friend Yarvo and he always looks at me goes you look way more Nazi I'm like Jesus Christ because I mean no I mean you look like just arian you look like more more than that than Jew, and I'm like, I don't even know what to say about that. Rosenbaum means, yeah, it's a German word.
Starting point is 00:20:57 German, red tree. Red tree. It's Rosenbaum. Speckin'i at this Dutch. Can you listen and write and write? Yeah, yeah. Licken on my ass. I shriek, I'm in the rosin' gemacht. I shit my pants. That's what I said. Are you a Nazi? No, I'm not. I hate Nazis.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Fucking Nazi. Wait, but you're Jewish, right? Because I can't do this if you're not Jewish. I am Jewish. Of course I'm Jewish. Okay, yeah, because if you're not Jewish, it's like, that's a waste of my time. to be now. Do you think you're doing things now? You're in a place where you kind of say whatever, not to say it's shock value, but sometimes you just say whatever the fuck's on your mind. But what you always like that, even in college or whenever you started to stand up,
Starting point is 00:21:34 do you think you kind of found your voice? You're like, this is what works for me. I think I always said what I felt, but you just, I just wasn't as good at it back then. You know, like you're just, I'm just, I just wasn't a good standup when you start. No one's good. I mean, the only kid that was probably good when they started through historic lore was probably like Chappelle, you know, a lot of people say Chappelle when he was 16 was a phenom. Like he was ahead of his time. I think his intelligence level was through the roof. He just understood stuff at a young age.
Starting point is 00:22:02 But no, most, almost every comic you love and know is not good when they start. So I knew what I wanted to say. I just didn't know how to say it. And what were you going through in terms of like when you were first starting out? Were there times where you wanted to quit? I suck. Were you getting anxiety? Did you get down on yourself?
Starting point is 00:22:16 No, you know, I always, I mean, I knew I was, I mean, this sounds, um, pretty you know not humble but like i knew i was better than most of my peers like it was very obvious at a young age when you start stand up that you go okay out of the 50 people that i know that i constantly see at open mics or whatever around town i'm one of the top 10 of these people and you you just know what i mean you just kind of like can feel where people rank and you don't really talk about it and as time goes on it becomes more obvious that you think that's material or do you think it's a combination of like do you think your energy was just better your persona or do you think it was the material or both both of them when you're young i think everyone's material is shit when you start
Starting point is 00:22:53 out as a comic your material is bad you just don't know what to talk about you haven't had a lot of life experience you know that's why there's not a lot of good 22 you how many great 22 year old comedians do you know you know i mean it's like you haven't lived enough life you haven't felt enough on stage you haven't been through enough both in the comedy world and in your personal life to really cultivate something that's worth listening to unless of course you have again i go back to chapelle who like i think he was such a phenom because he lived an interesting life and he saw the world from from two very interesting lenses of like growing being born and raised in dc and then moving to
Starting point is 00:23:30 ohio and he talks about it a lot like you go from like being a young black man in a you know a very racially integrated city with a lot of disparity of of money and the dispersion of wealth and dc is a is a very fucking crazy city of like the richest of the rich and the poorest of the poor are four blocks away. And when I say rich as the rich, I'm talking old money, not like the guy in Beverly Hills who has a house in the hills. That guy's bullshit. D.C. is like nine generations of wealth, you know?
Starting point is 00:23:59 Then you move to Ohio where it's predominantly white, and he had to experience, I think, these both, you know, telling his story. But, like, I just think. But it's rare. You're saying it's rare. It's rare for someone young, unless you have lived, which at that point, he had some of that in him, which made him good.
Starting point is 00:24:14 And he was just a gifted, it was an anomaly. Extremely gifted, yeah. But for the most part, none of us have lived that much when we're that young. Well, were you, like, did you like your parents? Are your parents good? Were they nice? Did they love you? Did they all that shit?
Starting point is 00:24:26 I mean, I killed him when I was 12. So I don't really, I don't know much about them anymore. I, I, uh, I beat my mom with my dad. I picked him up and I, and I, no, my parents are great people. They're good people. I mean, they, they, they, I had, um, a very normal, I mean, and it's a sense, normal childhood as much as you could be. My parents are divorced and then my mom got remarried, but,
Starting point is 00:24:48 I call my stepdad, my dad, he's my guy, and I, and he treated me like a son, you know, like he, so I, I, I didn't have a disadvantage of, like, daddy issue. If I have daddy issues, it's because my real father, who's, you know, not really, wasn't really in my life, but I had a stepdad who was just a good, a great dude to me, who treated me like a son. Do you feel like your, your, your real dad, not being around, not you, do you feel like you have any kind of residual effects from that? Do you feel like abandonment issues at all from that?
Starting point is 00:25:18 I mean, a therapist would probably say, yeah, you know, psychologically, I'm sure there's something deep inside you, but I don't recognize it as an adult. Like, I don't consciously recognize it because my life is good with the parents that I, that I have. You know, like, I used to always say two people that say, oh, you're real dad. I'd be like, well, my real dad is my real dad. My stepdad is my real dad. Like my biological father is the guy that, you know, I share blood with, but my real dad is my stepdad. That's my real dad. Did he ever reach out when you had more success?
Starting point is 00:25:43 Did he ever say, hey? We've kept in contact over the years. I talked to him four or five days ago. we keep in contact in very large in like big waves you know what I mean like it's I look at it like um I literally look at it like like like waves in the ocean like sometimes I catch it sometimes I don't you know sometimes we don't catch a wave for a long time sometimes we'll talk for two three weeks on end every few days and kind of be in conversation and then months and months will go by and then we won't speak does he know how you feel a probably not
Starting point is 00:26:12 truthfully probably not I mean I think he's I think he gets it I think he understands how feel but I don't think he's I've never sat and talked with him about it but it's also because I don't what would I don't know what it would do for me do you know what I mean yeah I said that to my wife it's like I'm I'm fine like I'm I'm happy with the family that I have and I wish no ill will on the dude I got love for him in my heart because he's my blood but also um I don't know I'm like I'm grown do you don't I mean like when you grow up you're kind of like I'm already I'm a man I don't know about that. I'm still figuring that shit out, man.
Starting point is 00:26:49 You're a boy. You're a boy. You're a boy. I'm a boy, no, but part of me is like, you know, I think in my feeble mind, you know, I wonder what would it be like if, let's say, that was my situation, if I'd want my father one day to just say, hey, I want to say these things to you right now. I was this, I was that. I apologize.
Starting point is 00:27:07 I'm sorry. You deserve better. You got a great whatever, everything you wanted to hear, but maybe you don't need to hear that. Yeah. I mean, I don't think I do. I don't want to. I mean, in a sense of like, it doesn't really,
Starting point is 00:27:20 it doesn't really matter to me. I don't, that sounds so, so disrespectful. It doesn't, I don't, I don't, I'm cool with it. You know what I mean? Like, I'm like, yeah, we're, well, I was going to say, you know, that's on Cat in the Cradle, you know, cats in the cradle and the Silves. That's literally the story of my life of like, it's like, hey, dad, hey dad, hey dad, hey dad, and dad's like, oh, you know, I'll be back someday.
Starting point is 00:27:38 I'll be back soon. I got to go work. And then when the dad gets older and he's like, hey, son. And it sounds like, I got my own family. I'm doing my own thing, dude, I got to go. But do you think you do that subconsciously to sort of like as a defense mechanism deep down where it's like, hey, I'm busy. I got my own shit.
Starting point is 00:27:53 I'm going to keep busy, busy, busy. Because a lot of people, if they stop for a second, they go, oh, fuck. And I feel like I might be one of those people. I know friends that they don't, if they stop for a second, depression kicks in, anxiety kicks in. Yes, sometimes. But in this case, in regards to that, it's more like, um, I just, I don't do it. I don't do it out of spite or anything. I do it just because I'm like, I just have my own things going on.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Like, I'm just kind of like, you know, I've got my own shit. I don't know. I've got like so much of my own shit that it's like, we're just two men. That's how I look at it. Like, he's just a do, it's like saying sometimes I call friends and sometimes I don't talk to him for a long time. You know, my oldest friend in the world. I talk to him every once in a while and then sometimes we'll catch up a lot and then sometimes we won't. I feel like it's the same relationship.
Starting point is 00:28:36 It's just two men. As men get older, you just start to realize that like friendships, friendships are these things that like you you keep nurturing as much as you can and if you don't talk to each other for a while it's all good and then when you come back to it yeah if you're mature enough you'll understand what it is and you won't hold any like yeah dude where have you been where there's more of like a hey dude you're busy you're this but you know I'm here and there's an understanding and I have friends like that where I don't see them all the time but there's a love and some friends you know I got to be honest I don't hang out with a lot of people it's just
Starting point is 00:29:07 people would say I have so many friends because I do I have lots of friends but The people that I really hang out with, I ultimately, I deal with anxiety, I deal with shit, and I want people around me that just sort of like, I don't want people around me that just kiss my ass. I don't want that. I just want people that make me feel like I could just lie down, watch TV, and not think of entertaining anybody. Do you have a lot of friends outside of the business?
Starting point is 00:29:31 You know, I have friends back home, a couple friends back home. Nobody here, though, in L.A. That are not in the business. Oh, yeah, yeah, my best friend growing up who was like, he was my mentor. I mean, dude, the guy, he was a popular kid in high school when he came up, he used to come up to my house and I was like this shortest kid in my high school picked on, whatever. And he used to always say, hey, come to my, I think I've told
Starting point is 00:29:50 this story, but he's like, hey, come out, I'm having people over, my parents are out of town. And I'd show up and I hear other fuckers going, why is this fucker here? I hear it. And I'd hear Tom go, he's cool, man, he's cool. And I remember when he came up to my house, my senior year and goes, hey dude, I'm thinking I'm going to go to Western, Western Kentucky. I go, why don't he just want to be my roommate? Want a room? And I'm like, uh, uh yeah you're popular i'm not this could be a way in and i went and applied to fucking uh whatever
Starting point is 00:30:17 you do what do you you don't apply you uh apply to college no it's not the word it's uh you don't you apply to school yeah you apply i guess you do i shouldn't have gone to school because i don't know that and i got in and we were roommates and he became sort of like dude this guy's funny watch him do this impression hey i used to make money doing impressions with a with a little bucket and we'd make enough money to have breakfast at murries the next morning in kentucky anyway um so i have him he's been my life long front i have a note that he wrote me in an envelope back in 90 fucking 6 when you're 32 when i not no when i'm fucking mid 20s or 45 you were 45 because what are you now you're 62 or 33 i'm 47 um and i have it downstairs and it's framed with a
Starting point is 00:31:00 like it just a kind of a collage and it just says you'll never um understand and you have mine dying friendship forever whatever it's something just really beautiful and it means a lot to you but you don't know what it says that's that's good well i didn't memorize the fucking thing i don't have a great memory santinas uh no but listen um so do you have those friends that because i have i i'd say a lot of my close close friends aren't in the business i have celebrity friends like you know bobby lee you're my friend uh you know we don't know each of that well but i consider you like hey i'd go have a beer with anyway i don't hang out with uh tons of celebrities yeah most of my friends my friends my
Starting point is 00:31:35 closest group of friends in Los Angeles aren't in the business. I mean, they're ancillary, but they're not like, they don't do what we do. They're not, uh, they're not on our side of it. They're on the other side of the camera. There's like a lot of guys here work in production or they right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My closest group of friends that we hang out with the most. Um, yeah, no, they don't. They're just, they're in the business. But I, when I say that I mean, like, they're not actors or comics or directors or producers. They're just people that work in the business on the other side. So my, that's my closest group of, friends and outside of comics i mean you know by the way i want to talk to you about this how do you
Starting point is 00:32:10 deal with criticism how do you deal with hecklers how do you deal with uh people who don't think you're funny trolls how do you deal with those guys i don't i've talked about it pretty openly i don't give i don't care even a little bit if you don't like my stuff i always say this is my suggestion to people that like um that are that like i get online and hate like uh you uh you have every right to like be like oh you suck i hate you i don't like your shit fine okay that's fine then after that moment that you say you don't like me, then disappear me from your conscience forever. Don't even, don't watch me again. Don't follow me.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Don't talk to me. Don't comment. It's that easy. If I go to a restaurant and I hate the food, I'm just not going to go back. Why don't you go back, eat again and go, yeah. See, I knew I didn't like this food. Like, yeah, dummy, don't ever come back. If you don't like me, don't come back.
Starting point is 00:32:59 I don't give a shit. It means nothing to me that you, I think people want to be significant. And they realize their insignificance. So when they're mean online, it gives them some sort of significance because usually it attracts other people to talk shit back, right? When somebody writes something negative on any of our pages on mine or on bad friends or whatever, our fans will just attack them. And I always delete it because I'm like, no, don't waste your time fighting for me
Starting point is 00:33:24 over this asshole. Just let them be a sad asshole by themselves. These people are going to die a sad, shitty life. And I just don't care about them. If your whole life is consumed with talking shit about things you don't like online, like without any sense of like, you know, jovialness or just kidding around or like, if it's just these like vitral attacks on people online, which happens, those are just sad, lonely people.
Starting point is 00:33:54 They're hurt. They're hurt and they need something to make up for their hurt. I like the analogy, the restaurant. That's the best thing. You go to a restaurant, this food sucks. Don't go back. And if you do go back once, and it sucks again, certainly don't go back the third time.
Starting point is 00:34:06 I just don't go back. But yeah, I deal with it in the way that any of us do, which is like it exists. There's people that are going to not like your shit. Dude, all the time. You know, people are going to say, I don't think you're the, I had some guy wait in line. It wasn't even, I don't think he was just being mean.
Starting point is 00:34:19 I don't know what he was doing. It was at a convention. And he was in line. And I always take times with my fans and I'm talking to him. And he just goes, he waits in line for like 20 minutes. I mean, probably five. My lines aren't that big. But he comes up and then he goes,
Starting point is 00:34:32 Gene Hackman's the best Lex Luthor. And I go, I agree. Absolutely. And he goes, oh, all right. Well, keep walking. I've talked about that. But it's just like, I don't, I really don't care. I honestly don't get upset.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I just did a role and I hope people liked it. And that's it. I just do the best I can. And look, does it hurt my feelings? I'm a human being. When I read a, if I read a bad review and it goes, there was an article once it says, so-and-so's not funny. So-and-so's not funny.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Michael Rosenbaum will never be funny. It was just, I don't even know what it was. And I go, what the fuck? I don't read that shit. Sometimes you think something's so good, like that you did, that it's only going to be praised. But no, there's going to be people. Yeah, but don't, but don't look for the praise or the negativity.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Like, I know that sounds cliche, but like, I've said this openly all the time. I give zero, goose egg. I give goose egg credit to critics. They mean nothing to me. I don't give a shit about what critics think. about my work. You can publish that. You can fucking staple it to the wall. I don't give a fuck what any critic will ever write about me for the rest of my fucking life. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:35:42 But your character on Dave, didn't he go up to a, that's a character in that too? Didn't you go up to the guy and go, hey, yeah, you wouldn't fucking sign me, you fuck, wasn't that you? I don't give a shit about critics. You know, I care about the fans. Of course. I care about people that pay good, hard-earned money to come watch me, to come, support me to be a part of my journey as I try to entertain people, and I'm not being, I'm being extremely genuine. I've learned so much in the past couple of years to, like, really appreciate fans and people that are like, yo, I like you. Why would you pay attention to people that say they don't like you? I've only heard, honestly, I don't hear anything bad about you. I'm not kidding. I'm
Starting point is 00:36:17 like, I don't know you that well, but I'm telling you, like Bobby Lee is a very close friend of mine and yours, of course. Love. And, you know, Bobby has a huge heart, but what people don't understand about Bobby is that Bobby will not hang out with people who make him feel shitty or aren't so you guys go at it on bad friends and you say and I want to get into that but like Bobby if he didn't like you he would just wouldn't want to be anywhere near you and so if Bobby loves you that means a lot to me well he he he him and I have such a great relationship because he knows that any anything we get at each other just because our personalities clash and that's why the show I think works and I but for us um the truth is like we have so much love like he he goes back with me in the comedy story i mean
Starting point is 00:37:01 he's really one of the reasons that i got into the system early on because bobby used to tell the old manager he was like you've got to watch santino you got to watch santino and it's just because we loved each other you know like we always we always would get at each other but it's just because we really really like each other he said something you guys were talking about me on the podcast you're like i got to call that fucker but bobby say it's weird because he does he sticks up for his friends he's a great dude who cares about the right thing He needs to care less about some of the other stuff. Like he's somebody I tell all the time.
Starting point is 00:37:29 He reads the comments. He gets in his heads. He gets in fights with people. He thinks what people say is valid. You know, when some Jagoff is like, Bobby Lee is not funny or or says something negative about anything he's ever done, he takes it to heart. And I'm like, Bob, it means nothing. You cannot pay attention to someone just saying something to try to hurt your feelings. You know, like he does that way too much.
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Starting point is 00:41:30 That's Q-U-I-N-C-E.com slash inside of you. Free shipping and 365-day returns. Quince.com slash inside of you. When you guys are doing your show, it's obvious to me that you do most of the work like Bobby just shows up. What are you talking about? It's just obvious. Bobby shows them and goes, all, what are we talking about today? And you kind of have to, it's funny because it's the perfect dynamic. It's the perfect, like, you're like going off on something.
Starting point is 00:41:58 He's like, why? And then he'll just question you on it. Do you guys plan things out? I mean, because it's got to be hard because it's a successful podcast. It's big. I mean, you know, bad friends. But like you're talking for an hour, sometimes an hour and. 20 and do you
Starting point is 00:42:14 do you have you done episodes you're like I just I don't know just wasn't funny that that's episode didn't work so the episode that we put out I don't know when this is coming out but the episode we put out today June 1st um was tough we took we took a few days to do it we've never done this before we usually do it in one day together um but we took three days we tried it once but that was a flub and then we tried it again and there was emotions were rising because of what's going on and the what's going on right now. And then we had to do it again
Starting point is 00:42:46 to kind of just like talk very candidly and openly about, you know, I think this was a special circumstance. Like we usually knock it out and we have a great time and the rhythm is good and it just flows for an hour and a half, sometimes, you know, an hour and...
Starting point is 00:43:00 Did you piece it together? Like you wore the same shirts three days in a row or did you just try it new every time? One day we threw in the trash. We threw the first day in the trash. And then the second day, um, we just had to,
Starting point is 00:43:11 yeah, we just had to go, over some stuff that we wanted to just clarify because at the end of the day we were exhausted. We were just like tired and we were annoyed and emotions were high and so we were kind of like... Were you annoyed with each other? Did you fight with each other?
Starting point is 00:43:24 No, no, no, no. I mean, emotions were high in the sense that we were like angry and annoyed and fucked up about this whole thing and like really didn't know how to feel and didn't know how to talk about it because we're a comedy show. And at the end of the day, I was like,
Starting point is 00:43:34 this is a fucking comedy show. You know, we're trying to be funny and Bobby was upset. He was like, I feel off. I feel mentally exhausted and I'm angry. agree and I'm annoyed and I like it kind of affected what we were putting out and I was like we want to put out a good product and I said to him I said you know Bobo if you want to like tape again tomorrow let's just come back when you we feel better when you get go to yoga get more sleep and he did and it worked it was nice and I'm I'm the same way I wasn't feeling good about it I was
Starting point is 00:44:01 annoyed I was frustrated I didn't know how to talk about stuff because I just here here's why there's so much to say and there's no way to do it the right. There's no way to properly say it all. So I was frustrated. We were both frustrated. It's like there's so much to say about it. So you keep current topics. Like you, you know, you guys kind of just rant and go off and you say things like, you know, you did a Trump thing. You did whatever, you know, split screen kind of like, you know, or no, Biden was answering, you know, you were answering. And that was, it was funny. And Bobby's like, that's not funny. And then you're going, it's funny that just the dichotomy or whatever, the dynamic.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Yeah, no, we usually plan. There are some bits that are very produced and plan that we make sure we bring to the table that we can talk about but sometimes they get thrown in the trash and we just like we go from wherever we're going how many people are involved in this i know there's you and bobby and then there's you have a producer how many producers do you have as far as like episode production it's it's it's me and bob i mean and when i say me and bob i mean it's me it's me it's me and bobby it's me and bobby and uh george and andreas sometimes have suggestions for the show that's great you know they help but their most that stuff is a lot of post production a lot of like editing and a lot of graphic design comes from these two people that we use that I used for my for whiskey ginger for
Starting point is 00:45:16 my show um Joseph Faria and Jenna Sunday I saw they were my people for whiskey ginger and I brought them over to bad friends they're the ones that do like the thumbnails and a lot of digital art that you see that gets thrown up and a lot of like the great segments that we put up they do all of the art for that so there are artists do you think that's important for like you know for instance you know I have a podcast I just film me and the me and the guest and that's what it's just a different kind of show. You know, you guys have sort of a talking show and it's produced and it looks like, you know, you put something into it. It's not just you go in there record and it's done.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Somebody edits it seems like there's a lot more to it. Podcasting is not that. It's not that easy. And everybody has a fucking, but the other day I looked on it was like another actor's got a fucking podcast. Like, how do you compete with this shit? It's a ton. I mean, we do that show for that reason. Like, I think it is fun for us to do produce bits and to kind of like make it a show.
Starting point is 00:46:05 I like making it a show. I mean, I think it's fun to be a fucking show. It's two of us. So it's like, the show is me and Bobo. It's like, that's the show. And so producing bits for it is very entertaining and very fun. So we have a team that help us out in Georgia and Andreas edit. And we have Rudy, his, you know, his niece is in the room with us now.
Starting point is 00:46:24 A woman with very few words, but when she says something, it just cracks me up. She was a gift from like the comedy god because she's... It's not funny. She's our inside mole, dude, our little inside tracking mall. So yeah, we have a good team of people that like help out make the show visually look the way looks but from the inside perspective of the bits a lot of most of it's just me and bobby kind of formulating what to talk about week to week and uh yeah man it's dude it's the most fun i said this the other day to my wife it's the most fun i've ever had in comedy since i was an
Starting point is 00:46:56 open micer i mean that like dude i played theaters of my own that i've sold out i played an arena i played arenas with joe rogan i've done arenas of people like you know it's funny because when I'm watching you, I'm like going, who, what friend could I get to do something along these lines? No, I really thought of. I go, but not the same thing, but just two personalities that we'd kind of riff on what's going on in the world. And I was like, who, who would, because you guys have a very tight group, like just, I mean, you have, you guys all came up together. People are like, oh, they've got this click. Well, you guys have all been friends for a long time. You, Delia, Rogan, Bobby Lee, uh, Kreischer even, right?
Starting point is 00:47:31 Yeah, it's just a guru and those guys. They kind of, it's all kind of form this, like, weird little podcast group, but like, it was organic. I mean, I say it all the time. The Bobby and I show was not born from anything but the fans. People talk, there's this running joke because Eric Griffin asked Bobby to do a show with him years ago, and it never happened because he started doing Tiger Belly. And then, you know, some of the fans, we joke around that it's like, oh, San Tino stole the show from Eric Griffin.
Starting point is 00:47:58 But the truth is, I have my own show. Whiskey Ginger does very well for me, and they have Tiger Belly. And the fans, anytime I did Belly, the fans were like, you guys need to start a show. And Kalila, Bobby's love of his life, was like you should, you guys should really do the show together. The fans keep saying it. So it wasn't us. Like we didn't, the only time I went out of my way was when I physically made it happen. Was when I went and got the studio, you know, we started to put the equipment together.
Starting point is 00:48:27 You know, I did all that shit because I was like, all right, let's try this. If it works, it works, if not, not. but I didn't consciously do this as like a I'm making a podcast Bobby we got to do this together this was the fans were like do the show do the show they kept telling us to do a show so we were like okay let's try it and it and it worked it wasn't a this wasn't some great plan of attack that we had in mind you know what I mean I'm jealous I should be I mean I love Bobby and I just we have a great dynamic too or we kind of can flip out flip out on each other and you stole him you know so I'm going to go have lunch with Eric hey honestly somebody needs to have lunch with that guy
Starting point is 00:48:59 All right, listen, this is called shit talking really quick. It's just quick questions, quick answers from my patrons. They're just loyal fans who love the podcast and are just, I just love them back. Here's Leanne. What's been your favorite podcast moment so far? Whiskey Ginger, bad friends, guest appearance as well. What's the one moment you always think about? Like I say, every week, truthfully, is the most fun I've ever had on bad friends.
Starting point is 00:49:19 I love whiskey ginger because I get to sit with one person in a room and drink whiskey and talk shit. You never ask me. Thank you. Dude, you have to come through. I mean, dude, honestly, it's been really challenging to be very honest. With this and the Pandy, like I'd rather, I want to sit in a room with you and drink. The whole point of my show was actually to really sit and have a drink with someone and really talk to them because I always feel like, you know, whiskey's a lubrication of the soul. So I feel like you really do get some great interesting conversation when you have a drink with somebody.
Starting point is 00:49:43 And a lot of my friends are sober, which has been a challenge. But I'm a lightweight, though. You get me drunk off one sip. I'm just going to, I'm going to start. I'll get kicked out of Hollywood. I'll be saying so much shit. That's why I do the show because I want people to like be honest. But anyway, bad friends every week is great.
Starting point is 00:49:57 and whiskey ginger is great, but some of the most fun times I've ever had on a podcast were Inside You with Michael Rosemite. No, honestly, was anytime I do YMH, anytime I do your mom's house with Suger and Christina, it's always fun because I get to go in there
Starting point is 00:50:12 and I play this character. I get to play this character with them. I get to do this thing where he leads me down these doors of like crazy bits. I've created a fake relationship on there where the guy named Rick who I fell out of love with. Like I have this love story on that show and it's just it all that stuff is just fun improv.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Did you study acting? I know this is questions now, but did you study acting? No. You know, I noticed because I watched some clips and I'm like, wow, pretty impressed.
Starting point is 00:50:39 And then I wanted to ask you that. I forgot to ask you. I did, I did journalism and English in college was my minor. So I did, very boring. I try to learn how to do, um,
Starting point is 00:50:49 TV talking, you know, that's what I learned. I try to learn how to do that stuff in college. And then I did theater in college, but no, it wasn't like, I didn't go to school for acting. All right.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Raj, I love Raj. You adopted, your adopted Indian bit is hilarious. What's the story behind putting that character together? Oh, my God. There's a guy named Raj Sharma, oddly enough. Raj Sharma, who's a comic. Do you know Raj? Do you know Rush?
Starting point is 00:51:09 Do you know Rush? Do you know, ever heard of him? I don't think so. It doesn't mean anything if I don't know. A long story about that bit. That bit was like, by the way, that'll get me canceled at some point. I do an Indian accent because Raj and I, good friends and stand up for years and whenever I would do the accent to him.
Starting point is 00:51:23 And Raj was always like, dude, you got to do it on stage. He's like, I'm not going to do that on stage. It's so stupid. And the crowd was so bad one night at the laugh actor. He's like, I'll give you $100 if you do the Indian accent for the whole set. You have to do it for the whole set. You can't break. So I didn't, I did it.
Starting point is 00:51:36 It ended up on, you know, their YouTube and it got millions of views. And then I had them take it down because I was like, I wasn't, that wasn't supposed to be for the internet. You know, like, I wanted it just for the live show. But they threw it up there. And then somehow it got leaked a million times. People do love it. Dude, I have more, a white person would be like, so racist. I've had more Indian people come up to me and be like, we love that.
Starting point is 00:51:56 it. And I'm like, oh, it was just kind of for the night, you know, but yeah, it came from Raj Sharma. Raj, tell Raj, unless that's, look at that's Raj Sharma, asking you that. Do me a favor. Tell Raj, he's the best Patreon ever, best patron ever in an adopted Indian accent. Oh, patron? Yeah. Oh, because he's a Patreon fan? No, no, he's a patron of mine. He's a patron. I have a Patreon account, so he's a patron. Patreon. Yeah, Patreon. It's like people, they want extra footage, bonus stuff for the show. I know, but you're saying patron. It's Patreon. It's Patreon. Patreon, but he's a patron of Patreon. Look you
Starting point is 00:52:27 Forget it Roger you are the greatest patron of Patreon I've ever seen man Thank you so much for being a part of the show We want to get inside you sometime Wow that's pretty You know how many people have come up to me And say how accurate is
Starting point is 00:52:40 There's got there are literally people I don't even want to say it It's just like If I was listening to somebody I'd be like wow that's you know I mean I do certain things that I'm allowed to do Like I could do a pretty good Jewish You know like I could do a good impression
Starting point is 00:52:52 Of my grandfather you know He looked at me He always looked at me would ever go, you're a nut, you know, you're a nut. Look, what is, what are you worried about? What is it? He would, that's how he sounded. Where's your grandfather from? New York, Bronx. By the way, can you, can you do, everybody does a Harry Carey? I probably do the best one you'll ever hear. Well, let's hear it. You think you're better than Will Farrell? Yeah, I think he overdoes it. I'm just kidding. I love Will Ferrell, but why do we always have to say that?
Starting point is 00:53:21 What if it's my honest opinion? No, you're allowed to say it. I think the best. I think the best. guy was John Campanaro, this guy from, this comedian. Campanelli? No. Remember John Campanelli? John Campanero. I said right, didn't I? Yeah. John Campanero did the best, and he kind of taught me. So, all right, you tell me, close your eyes. How's the fella, Dave Concepcion, hails from Havana, Cuba, with a sun shines, 365 days a year, and he misses a pop-up in the son. There's a trickling ground ball to say over to Durham. Hey, check out the guy in the sombrero. I fly out the left field. That's very good. That's very. Wills is, um, what's the
Starting point is 00:54:09 word? He goes, uh, Wills is funnier. Yours is more accurate. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yours is more honest, but to be on SNL, you got to. No, no, no. Wills is brilliant. I'm just say, yes, right, his is impression and all that. But I just remember Harry Carey. Are you a Cubs fan? No, but I always had to watch him because I was in Indiana because all head was fucking cubs and fucking braves and fucking cardinals sorry guys who are you a fan of i'm a met fan i was born in new york but i grew up in indiana sorry all right quick fire mary b how soon do you think it will be politically correct to joke about the virus this virus crisis people have been joking about it the whole time what do you mean people have been
Starting point is 00:54:41 there's so many comics that i've been kidding about it right now i i i can joke about it if you want to i don't know what's the joke that's what i always say when someone's like what's too soon i don't know man what tell me the joke tell me what the joke is not it's usually never too soon if the joke is funny you know harlan a lot of people taking shots at the uh at like try to make jokes about the virus and it's like go ahead i don't know i don't know what's funny what am i going to say harlan said something i thought was funny about something people always you know at the beginning when there was a toilet paper shortage and they couldn't get toilet paper and he's like and he's like hey boss like everybody's worrying about the fucking toilet paper
Starting point is 00:55:14 it's like you got a fucking stephen king's carry novel up there fucking you got you wipe your ass with that novel for a good month. That's very good. No, there's plenty of funny stuff that you could say about it. It's never too early. Fucking make a joke about it. I don't really know. There's nothing is too early to make a joke about. Lisa, you went to ASU, my alma mater. Did you participate in
Starting point is 00:55:35 the comedy or improv group while there? I used to love watching the far side and bear in mind perform at the MU between classes. The Memorial Union, that's right. No, I never did. I did stand up. I never tried to do improv. Improv was never for me. but those guys were very talented.
Starting point is 00:55:52 I do know what she's talking about. In the basement of the MU in the Memorial Union, you could walk by, you could look down and see people performing live in the middle of the day. They would do like lunch matinee shows in the middle of the day in the MU. They were very funny, actually.
Starting point is 00:56:04 I do remember that very vividly. Like they were good. The far side was good. Bear in mind, that gets so weird. That's like the same era as me. She must have been around the same time that I was there. Lisa. Todd,
Starting point is 00:56:14 what was your experience on I'm dying up here? Do you think they did it accurately depicting the world of comedians. Oh, man, I don't know. Man, that was in, that show got canceled, Todd. Yeah, I mean, but you did two seasons, right? No, I know. I'm kidding around. Yeah, no, I think, uh, oh, dude, I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Do I think it accurately depicts the world of comedians? I'm not, I wasn't alive in 1973, so I couldn't really tell you, but from what I know from a lot of our critics in terms of our critical peers, um, you know, a lot of the older comics were like, the problem was the show was too serious. It didn't show the fun side and the crazy side. It only showed kind of this, it was a dramatic show. The show was a drama. It showed like the kind of the negative times.
Starting point is 00:56:52 And it wasn't a fair depiction of what was going on back then. To be honest, yes, I think we over dramatized a lot of things. I think the show's biggest downfall was not being funny enough. And it was all about like kind of the sadness and the heartache and the heartbreak. And I do agree that we deserve to be canceled because the show didn't find its footing. It was a lot of great acting on that show and great writing.
Starting point is 00:57:14 But we didn't show enough love. There wasn't enough like having a really good time because a lot of my, most comedy whether it's 73 or now comics are you know it's a fun come to the green room the comedy store once you're like oh my god these guys are having a great time i remember being in the green room the comedy store many times but like i think you were there before but like with me i mean you obviously were there but like uh rogan and rogan doing the stretches or are talking about things and and just things health-wise and like stretches and just people goofing on each other and meanwhile i had diarrhea because i'm a new comics i'm just shitting all these very very very
Starting point is 00:57:49 Vets are talking. I'm like, oh, my God, I got to memorize what I'm going to say. I said to Swartson one day, I go, I got some, you know, some new stuff. Because all your shit's new, dude. You're fucking new.
Starting point is 00:57:59 You only have new shit. Don't, don't do it. The new shit. What's your new shit? Your new shit is your shit. Yeah, you're new. You're new shit. No, yeah, that place,
Starting point is 00:58:07 I think that place is, it's the greatest place in the world. We try to do justice about the history of the store a little bit, but the show was, was, was, you hated, moving on. No, I didn't hate it. Our aim was good.
Starting point is 00:58:19 good, but we miss the target, if that means anything. Yeah, Bob Kay is comedy hard in the current world. It seems so many people get offended so easily these days. Everyone's being judged in the court of public opinion. That is rhetoric. That is fake news. I don't believe that. Don't spread that around, Bob.
Starting point is 00:58:35 I think that's bullshit. This is one of these phrases that people kind of regurgitate that I don't buy anymore. When somebody's like, oh, everybody is, everyone's so PC. What can you say anymore? Really? because not at all. I mean, every comic I know that's thriving right now, look at across the board,
Starting point is 00:58:54 none of them are scared of what they're saying. Go look at the four specials that just came out on Netflix. Segura, Kreischer, Delia, what are you talking about? Everyone's saying whatever the fuck they want. There is this weird, there's this weird rhetoric that gets, like, recycled through society because somebody said it once.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Like, you know, Seinfeld was like, you can't play colleges anymore because they're too sensitive and then everyone is like oh my God everyone's so sensitive it's like do come to the comedy store before the Pandy hit the comedy store is the most
Starting point is 00:59:24 is the most groundbreaking say whatever you want fucking place I've ever been a part of and none of it slowed down at all so I don't buy that stuff I just think people want to people want to make it sound like people are too PC
Starting point is 00:59:39 but guess what there's millions of people that just want comedy and they're not looking to get offended You can be as politically incorrect as you want. As long as you, like, look, as long as you're just not stupid and you're saying things that are just really racist and fucking belligerently like, like, for instance, also new comedians that are coming into it that are just like getting up there, they don't have such a, what's the word? You guys sort of, not to have the right to be politically incorrect, but if you've been doing it for years and years and years, you can get away with more probably because people follow you, right? Well, it's more about you. It's more about how you say it. It's not what you say, but it's how you say it. So like if you, if someone can misconstrue what you say into something politically correct, maybe incorrect, maybe that's their perception of what you're really saying. If you're going into something saying something with good intent and you want comedy out of it and it doesn't have any like vitriol or hate behind it, that it's just you making fun or light of something, if you know how to say it right, you can say anything. I mean, Bill Bersigrad.
Starting point is 01:00:43 example you can say anything if you know how to say it right and you know how to make it funny it's just you know yeah some people just aren't funny and they say dumb shit and then they gets them in trouble and you're like well that was your fault you just aren't funny it wasn't funny like i don't know Bryce Bryce I have a feeling this is my producer because he likes you since making the show Dave have you thought about starting a rap career under the name Lil Cheeto it's very funny no I'm never gonna I'm never gonna have a rap career but but for Dave I will be little cheat I'll be little Cheeto L-I-L-L-L-L-L-Chita Lil, like Lil Wayne.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Lil Cheeto. I love that if your name is Lil, you don't necessarily have to be. You know, like I'm 6'1, but I'll be Lil Cheeto, you know? Big, because you can't be Big Cheeto. It sounds, because you have to be fat to be called Big. You know what I mean? So for Lil, I'll be Little Cheeto. No, no rap career for me, but I hope I can still.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Look at my dog just came to my sex dungeon. She's looking at my plate. She wants your plate or she wants the black bill? What do you want, Cubs? What's that thing? I named my dog after my favorite baseball team, the Chicago Cubs. Hey, Andrew Santito's here.
Starting point is 01:01:47 I used to do Vince Scully. Vin was... Dude, do Vince. I love Vince Gully. Yeah. He'd go, uh, dodger ball, two down,
Starting point is 01:01:56 uh, consecos up to bat. Big arms, big guy. Nice guy, good guy. And that's one out to right. He had this like very like,
Starting point is 01:02:05 quick, snappy up and down, like, dodger ball, dodger down. Dodger, Dodger days. Dodger days here. And,
Starting point is 01:02:13 Chavez Ravine. There's a guy Bob Murphy for the Mets. He passed away many years. But he had that accent where he'd be like, hold on, a beautiful day for a ball game, fans filing it off the subway ramp. Now it's honey-do season, folks.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Honey-do this and honey-do that. And my uncle went up to him and goes, Bob Murphy, fuck, Bob Murphy. You're like my favorite announcer. He goes, ooh, that is so very kind of you. He just had that. And on the ground ball through the middle, It's a base hit.
Starting point is 01:02:43 A base hit by Jimmy Crawls and it breaks up the perfect game. Now the applause for Tom Seba. It just makes baseball cool because you just feel so relaxed. I miss it so much, man. I miss baseball so much. You don't have to be there to be there. It's the greatest sport in the world that like if someone's like, I don't really like baseball.
Starting point is 01:02:59 You're like, you don't want to just go hang out outside with friends. What are you talking about? That's perfect. Really? Just want to have a few beers and just yell at people? It's like when somebody says they don't like golf and they're like, oh, I don't like golf. It's like, well, have you ever tried it?
Starting point is 01:03:11 And they go, no, it's like, I don't want to do that shit. It's like, dude, name a time when you can go drink beer outside with friends for four hours uninterruptive. Like, what do you mean? It's baseball and golf. It's why I love them both. You can go hang out with buddies.
Starting point is 01:03:24 You don't have to be good. You don't have to care about the game or your own personal. You just go hang out with friends. It's about camaraderie. It has nothing to do with anything else. Don't we all do that? Don't we all? I'm sure you do what we all do.
Starting point is 01:03:36 We're like that. Oh, I don't know to do that when you have it. And then you do it and you're like, oh, that's pretty cool. I've learned to be better, actually. over the years I've learned to just go, I'll try it. And then I try it. And if I still don't like it, I'm like, I try it. It wasn't my thing. But more than ever, I've been more about just going,
Starting point is 01:03:49 okay, I'll see if it sucks. Like, I'll see if I really don't like it. But when you're young, you're like, no way. But when you get older, I feel like you're like, I'll do it. I don't fucking, what do I give a shit? Like, I'm okay with being a tourist. I talk about that. I used to talk about it on stage.
Starting point is 01:04:04 I used to be so afraid of being a tourist. And now I'm like, I'm going to the Eiffel Tower first thing I do. Like, I don't give a shit. What do you mean? I'm going to die one day. I'm not going to be the guy that went to Rome and didn't go to the Coliseum. You're an asshole. You're an asshole.
Starting point is 01:04:18 I think that's right. And I can be an asshole. Dude, listen, this was a great time. I really was. And I, and,
Starting point is 01:04:23 you know, other than, like, meeting you a couple times and thinking you were a funny guy and a nice guy, I really didn't know. But I want to congratulate you on bad friends. I love Bobby Lee. I love you.
Starting point is 01:04:32 And I think, I think it's really funny. And I really enjoy watching it. And, and what else you got? Dave, Dave's still going? Dave is our show on FX.
Starting point is 01:04:40 It's on Hulu now because FX is done showing it because the season's done. But go to Hulu. You can watch it on Hulu. If you have international fans, it's all over. It's BBC One. It's on the British networks now. It's all over Western and making its way to Eastern Europe. And then we'll be back for season two, hopefully in 2021, if the world isn't totally burnt down to the ground.
Starting point is 01:05:03 And what's your handle? What's your handle, buddy? Cheetos Santino on Twitter and Instagram and everywhere, wherever you can find me. It's Cheeto Santino, C-H-E-E-T-O-S-A-N-T-I-N-O. You following me? No. Oh, man, I think so. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:18 I actually don't know if you are. No, I don't know that stuff either. I don't pay much attention to it. But should I? Are you good on there? Are you good on Twitter? Sure. Yeah, you'll have some fun.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Which one are you better on? I don't know. Instagram I have a little fun with. You know, I just do goofy shit. But I'm going through some of the content, and a lot of this is really terrible. It's you with your shirt off. Well, no, no, no, no, you got to listen to it. You go.
Starting point is 01:05:40 you with your shirt off a lot of you with your shirt off that's not true there's two with my shirt off maybe did you ever think about getting a tattoo above your penis that says smallville I was going to get one I'm not going to get into this dude listen this is a lot of fun I want I hope I'm on whiskey ginger I'd love to come on yes I want you to come on you'd be awesome on there I love it hey good luck best luck with everything man you're doing enjoy the success uh and I got nothing else man this has been a good time thank you for allow me to be inside of you buddy thank you I love you. I hope you guys enjoyed today's podcast.
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