Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Beverly D'Angelo Returns

Episode Date: April 21, 2020

Beverly D'Angelo (National Lampoon's Vacation, American History X) returns to the show this week and helps us learn how to yearn. She opens up on her passion and desire to express herself, plus how she fuels these through her experiences in relationships. We also get into an intellectual conversation about the birds and bees, how she navigated her career being of service to others, and her time in the National Lampoon’s Vacation franchise. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Yesterday It was Monday but uh you know i just you know in terms of anxiety and stuff uh i find that if i don't stick to that routine man flipping out i notice i get a little short temper i'm not i'm a little not patient so all i say is hey you know i didn't work out three days in a row i just things stack up i got stop and say no go work out release some steam do it i'm just saying uh news every day man i know you guys are going like what is going on here man but uh i get frustrated because every day it's something different i almost want them to give us the news just on Fridays give us news because every

day okay a mask don't wear a mask wear a mask okay um now the antibodies if you get the test that will help and now we don't know they're not sure don't get the test so it's almost like every day it's changing and like you know I think that's where the most anxiety comes from is everybody's just like what are we what are we doing well it's sort of in limbo fucking limbo rush limbo oh sorry uh here we are another episode I'm glad you're sticking around and listen to the episode and by the way uh you know the podcast definitely uh I think

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live in Austin at the North Door with Zach Levi from Shazam. But just stick around and we'll find out we're kind of every day again, we're waiting to see what happens. I've been trying to FaceTime my grandma as much as possible. She's alone. I can't imagine what it's like for her, 91 years old. she's such a good woman I love her so much we were trying to do a house party thing where you house party everybody it's like another Zoom thing she was she couldn't get it going she

was muting herself she was like kept turning herself around you know with the little switch she was just I was like holy shit man and my uncle can't go over there to help her really so I yeah yeah yeah I just want to yeah Beverly D'Angelo is my guest this week she is and by the way before I say that make sure if you will I know you guys a little listening um subscribe write a review got to say it podcast uh the at the handles at inside podcast on um i think instagram and facebook and at instapod inside of you pod on fucking sorry twitter i've been doing a lot of instagram lives i hope you're enjoying that uh look for me again and patreon's i'll probably do another private you two live with you

live um but beverly de angelo she's been on the show before she's such an eccentric lay and so, she's just full of life and so much experience. She has a story about everything. And she's one of those fiery ladies that could just hug you and then smack you if she needs to do it. She's tough. She's lovely and brilliant. And it's an honor to have her on the podcast again. I know she's listening.

It wasn't an easy edit. Ryan really had to work on this, Bev. I love Beverly DeAngelo, and you will too again, but this is a lot of fun. Let's get inside Beverly DeAngelo. It's my point of view. You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live.

studio audience. I took you out to dinner a couple weeks ago. Yes, you did. And you said nobody asks me to go to dinner. Nobody does. Now, what does that mean? Well, that's a lie. I just went back there with Rufus. Rufus Wainwright? Yeah, my dear, dear, dear, dear. He's a very talented guy. You love him? I love him. What's so great about him besides his music and his brilliance? As a person, that kind of, because he is as open as a person and as responsive as a person as the songs that he sings uh to represent that he's the real deal how many times have you seen him in concert five do you cry at his concert when he's singing no hey ryan can you give me a bottle of that water you have a water right there but what what about the diet coke oh yeah i don't have any

coke at all i'm trying to you know i'm trying to i'm even i don't even eat artificial sweeteners anymore it's the key to my everlasting beauty it's yeah it's uncanny well you've been you know it's uncanny how good I look. It's uncanny. But it is. You do look great. You've been working on yourself, though. It's not like you can just do that and not work.

Yeah, no, no, no. I'm into it. But also, you know, I experienced this incredible freedom because here's, here are two keys. One is I spent 18 years getting up every morning at 6.30, basically, and either picking up my kids to school and making arrangements for it and kind of fitting a life in between the time, like if they were staying with their dad or something like. that and my life was really being of service so you were a mom pretty free i mean you worked but for 18 years you mostly worked as a mom yeah so that cuts out on a lot of stress you know it's a

different kind of stress when you're when you're stressed from being of service to someone when your when your priority is love you know yeah it doesn't age you as much but that's purpose purpose purpose purpose but what happened is so so now they're long launched and it's launched and it's a good launch they're stable they're good kids were you worried that they weren't going to be stable you know movie star kids yeah well i didn't educate them in hollywood i didn't infiltrate them with hollywood it was they go to private schools though they went to private schools yes but out of town northridge down in the miracle model but people knew who they were you know from a very young age i explained to them that that that there were

people whose goal in life was to let them know how well they knew their dad and that it was really important to understand the difference between people being attracted to fame and getting to know you and I'm a great bullshit detector and I guided them and that and they're good at it well it's it's tough enough having you know like I had parents who weren't famous you know and there was still a lot of dysfunction. So, you know, how could there not be dysfunction? You know, it's Beverly DeAngelo, heartthrob, actress, and Al Pacino. How does that not like...

Well, I cut all that stuff out when I became a mom, though. I didn't... I never... I didn't live in my life as a famous person. How do you do that? I didn't work a lot. On purpose. Yeah.

It was always how long and how close am I going to be here. Do you love work? I love... inspiration. I love feeling inspired. I seek it. I am an advocate of doing whatever it takes to find your inspiration point. I know what mine is. You know, mine is yearning. Mine is being in the yearning. You know, that's when the stuff comes out of me, the writing, the desire, was when I have a desire to express, you know, and Hollywood never afforded me a lot of those opportunities, you know. And why is that? Do you think you're lucky it's kind of the roll of dice? It's like, you know, what am, what are they going to give me?

I think a lot of it had to do with the vacation because when I did coal miner's daughter, it was really an act. You're nominated for Golden Globe. It was really, yeah, it was really an acting thing. Patsy Klein. Black hair, voice, singing, you know, all that kind of stuff. But then I did vacation and it really, the way that I look, I don't look Italian, I don't look dark. I, I look pretty much like the girl. next door kind of or I think I was that milth they invented that word right you know and I think you are a milk well I have like a grand milth or whatever it is now but but anyway um and and and and and also you know that was like mid 80s that was like you know the beginning of this concept of uh you know franchises and stuff like that and so I think that that that person that rests so easily in the public's mind you know the public people turned into the people who ran the studios. They were all students and law students and all that. So I don't know. I think that had something to do with it.

I do know. I can always tell when somebody's a vacation fan. I can always tell by the way they react to things I say. If they're surprised or askance or whatever, I can just tell how they react to me. Did you fight it for a long time? Were you like, hey, this is great. I have a lot of success. No, that's where the lack of ambition comes in.

That's where I just, I moved to Italy in 81, then I moved to Ireland and I basically lived outside of Hollywood. To get away from that? It wasn't to get away from it, but I certainly, you said, did I fight it? And I'm saying, not only did I know, I, no, the answer is no, I did not fight it. I moved. You moved. I left.

But you still were getting roles, though. Well, I was, yeah, I was, great agents and all that kind of stuff. Because you were kind of a triple threat, right? I suppose so, but I didn't, I didn't pursue it, Michael. Not ardently. I'm going to go back to that dinner we had two weeks ago. I'm going to pump it up Pache because Che runs the joint and I love going there. I know that's so great.

And maybe we'll get a... And actually, where we sat was good because I was worried about the acoustics there and sitting outside. I was perfect. I went back with Rufus and his husband, Yorne DePache, and we sat in the same place. So you said no one ever asks me to dinner. Well, no, I don't get asked on a lot of days. Like on dates. I don't get to that. I've known you forever.

I don't get asked on a lot of it, but I'm not a d'adier. But how does someone not want to take Beverly DeAngelo on a date? You don't put yourself out there enough. Just, just, just that, just that phrase, disgust me. What? Get yourself out there? Yeah, yeah. Well, what am I supposed to say?

You don't try hard enough, Bab. Well, but why should I try? How are men supposed to know you're available? How are they supposed to see you? On this podcast. Guys, listen. I know I'm not an Instagram or anything. No, but I'm not looking.

You're a hopeless romantic. You want to be in. No, I, I, I, I, I, someone has to find me. That's what I know. I know. At this point, well, I know, but have we ever tried anything like that? No. No, I, I, uh, someone has to find me.

Well, you've had moments. You've had like, but yes, you told me about some, you call them dry spells where you're like, you know what? I'm busy. I'm doing my thing. Oh, my, that I'll have. Salivacy, you mean. Yeah.

Yeah. And that was a while. That was like four months. Oh, excuse me. It was a while. It was a while. But then does a woman, I'm sure women think this, because guys always think it, does a woman ever think? And you're not like this.

I know, just from knowing you, you're not like this. You're not. I'm very atypical. But don't you feel like, I just want to kind of get effed? Um, I just want to ask. yeah we call it we say break me off break me off baby i've never heard that just it's more of a different racial break me off break me off so you do think those things of course i do so do you do you ever have your friends try to hook you up like find me someone that's cool someone they're

hanging out with someone i could listen to her be myself i can just start singing around the house like a yeah exactly and does it happen every once in all they say meet this guy, Richard, he's fantastic. I've had some... Richards. I've had some fix-ups. Set-ups never work, do they? Did you ever notice that?

They never work. And it's always when a woman says, you have to meet my friend Lonnie. Run. Because they're never as pretty as the friend who sex them up with me. Well, I don't think it's about being pretty for me.

I don't... You don't want pretty? No, I find that rather intimidating. Well, I'm not saying pretty. I'm saying being attracted to them. Oh, I need to be attracted, but I'm saying that my triggers for for for attraction don't necessarily lie with the uh physical thing what's the attraction intellect humor humor is that number one if someone's smart smart smart smart's number one

smart's number one smart's number one humor witty's next to it but you've you've gone out with you've had sex with people that aren't that smart or that witty or that funny that's not true have you ever gone out with someone who just wasn't funny no really I can name one person. Who? I won't say it. Say it. Initials.

It rhymes with. It rhymes with Todd Pissure. Oh, that was Carrie. That was Carrie's idea. That wasn't even my idea. That's what I'm saying. People hook you up. And yeah, whatever.

It didn't work out. Carrie Fisher hooked you up with this person. We just wanted to be sisters in real life. Oh, you were sisters. I know, but like we were, you know. But she hooked you up with this person and that person was funny. He was funny He was funny

He was funny See you said his name That's okay to say He put me in his book He did? Yeah What did he say about you? He said that

All this stuff And he said things like You know As my sister said How could I be born again Christ if I was dating Beverly D'Angelo But That's kind of a stab

Well to Godites Yeah But anyway Not looking for them But anyway No but he said That the one The wonderful thing was that I made him aware of what he really wanted.

I think I am a transitional, and then he got married. So that's what I don't want. Now, she's saying you're the woman who, that's what I don't want. I'm a good transitional. But I am too. Men look at me for transitions. Like I've held the hands of dying people. I've transitioned a person into parenthood.

I've transitioned people into, so many men that I've been with have found, the perfect person after me. But if you think about it, everybody's like that. So if they find one person, everything before then was searching for the right one. Yeah, but why am I always the person that's right before the right one? Why am I the guy that I, why am I the guy who they're always like, uh, so and so, we got to fire that guy. Uh, you know what?

We only have two days. Let's hire Rosenbaum. He's a good. He'll help, he'll be in there. Well, yeah, I, but I think it's because I'm on, I'm always on this track of like, if nothing else, it's a profound friendship because the men that I like, are people that I want to know. They're people that I like.

I actually like them. Who's the last person you liked? That you said, I like this guy. I'm enjoying him. I'm sleeping with him. This is fun. He's funny. Someone I didn't sleep with.

Someone, oh, do I know this person? No. I don't. No. Do I know of this person? Nope. Was it years ago?

Yeah. And so you never slept with him, but you had sort of a, emotional thing you kind of talk to you yeah that was it yeah but never had sex not really okay so hmm look i know ding ding dee we're dancing around i just find it i find it tough because i think you're so talented and so pretty inside out so smart you know what a friend i know this though i got to tell you something i was in see i again i'm all about the yearning in fact I sought someone out because I knew he would inspire me to do something that I really needed to be doing.

Anyway, I got, like, basically a book out of this guy and songs and stuff. You're writing a book and your songs. It's a book of erotica. But anyway, and I, you know, because I can't tell anybody about it. I'm too embarrassed. But I did say to this one guy friend in New York, a younger man, the 36-year-old, I told him him. But anyway, I said, you know, I have this fantasy that I'll, is that you or me? I think it was probably you.

I have this fantasy. I have this fantasy that I'll, oh, did I not bring my phone after looking? You have your phone in there. I don't. And I was late getting here because I needed to find my phone. That's not. Anyway. But she whips on a giant iPad.

But I said to my friend, I said, I have this fantasy that I'll send him like the first section of my book. And he'll fall in love with me. And he said, he said, a man will never do that. He said, a man will never go, I'm not really into her. But wow, that book she's writing, fuck it. Now I'm there. He said, men don't do that. They don't do that.

They don't care if you're talented or creative or madly ingenious. Unless what. You're trying to turn that off? I got to find my phone. I just want to see if it's here. All right, hang, let's take it. I hear it. It is in your purse.

Where is it? Below you? This is bizarre. Oh, my God, you jackass. Okay. All right, turn it off. I'm trying to. Inside of you is brought to you by

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inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum. Rocket Money. Okay. It's off. Anyway, yeah, and he said it doesn't matter. And, you know, it's true. And I mean, my life has always been about the creative. I'm not kidding.

And I know it doesn't look like that in a career or anything. What? And all the things I've walked away, well, recording career on, everything I've walked away. But it's the truth, I always, I have a go-to. It's like my neural pathway is if you feel something and it doesn't get an immediate response from somebody, then you've got to write it out, you've got to sing it out, you've got to dance it out, you've got to work it out. I mean, I'm a big subliminal person. And so that doesn't allow me to interact in a way like traditional women. interact with men.

But when you say the thing about the book, men aren't going to like it, care about a girl. They don't care. It's not going to make them love you. How about a man isn't in this industry who, who just, there's men who just like want to date, like their woman's brilliance is, is an attraction. And at top of it, I may be initially sure. How about all the girls?

How about how many women you see with these guys? And they're like, what the fuck? And they're like, well, he's brilliant. He's, uh, you know, he. He wrote something. He does, he's not an actor. He's, I don't know if I agree with you. I don't think there's, I think they're intimidated by it.

That's what happens. They're all intimidated. They're all intimidated. When a woman does too much. I haven't met a man who wasn't intimidated. I've been intimidated by women. Would you be intimidated by a woman if you went over to her house and she just started kissing you in mid-sentence and like came on your leg?

Would you find that-came on my leg? Would you find that intimidating, a bit overwhelming? No. I don't think so. If I liked her, why would I, wait, you're saying if I went over a woman's house and if she's aggressive. I can understand why an aggressive woman, it depends when what we're talking about here. Because if it's the first time we're kind of hooking up and she gets a little aggressive.

Yeah, it's intimidating. It might be a little bit like, whoa, wow, that's a little. Here's what I suggest. I'm single. So my suggestions can just fuck them off. Like mine. Fuck them right off. We should just sit here and do it a not self-help collar.

Yeah, because to me, I think I got to eat the blind leading the blind. But fuck it. To me, it's like, you know, you kind of want to ease into it. I dated a woman. Yeah. And at first it was sexy and subtle and all these things. And then, whoa, look out, Tiger. It was like, whoa.

What do you mean? It was sexy and subtle. Well, I was comfortable. Walk me through the sexy and subtle part. Well, you know, you hang out. You kiss, you flirt. It's easing your way into it. Date two, whatever.

You're just kind of grooving and getting excited. man oh i love this song you're driving into dinner you're playing let me text you the song yeah yeah do that oh great it's great you want to come in yeah you know what i can come in for 10 minutes but i'm serious it's going to be 10 minutes what all i'm saying is yeah and then what and then all i think for me yeah it all depends but if i have if i if i if i'm with a woman yeah and we ease into it and it's nice and sexy and everything's going right then i i i in a way it's gives me confidence and like I'm comfortable in this sometimes when I'm attacked I've had attacked where oh my guy I think he just bit through my lip yeah or it's like crazy and I'm like whoa is that all

she's in new fuck maybe in my mind that's what she's into and I don't I'm not a fucking porn star yeah maybe I you know I can't fuck like she probably thinks I might be able to fuck that's never going to exactly what all I should worry about just worry about the first fuck yeah do you remember I was talking about that what was the first do you remember i you were worried some with some guy you were dating a long time ago yeah you were worried that i don't know i don't love my body like i should and if he sees me naked what if he doesn't come back for a second time and i go let's get past the first fuck yeah not the second fuck yeah yeah yeah i wrote it down because i thought it was so funny the first because you were worried about the second fuck when you haven't even fucked the guy well yes that's the one to

worry about. First thought's easy. No, the first... In fact, I really think, in fact, this was used on me by one of the absolute great loves of my life. Al? I'm not going to tell you the story if you're going to try to turn it into a personality thing. All right. No, let me just say this, that in my lifetime, I did experience someone saying, A, we're not going to do this until we cannot help it. Which is so hot. Okay. So you just answered your own question.

And B and B and B, okay, but you have to promise me that we'll do this again right after. And I mean, those are the two hottest lines you can say to anybody. Wait, okay, here's what intimidates me about that. What? Line one was great. Yeah. The first line was great. Yeah.

But at 47 years old, if someone says, hey, we're going to do this again right now, I'm like, oh, fuck. Oh, good, good, good, because you know. No, the guy has to say it. Yeah, the guy says it. He's like, well, he must be really into you if he wants to go a second time, right? Well, because what you're going to explain is that you're just, how old are you? 47. It just depends.

Sometimes. Can you, can you do it twice? I can. Here's the thing. If I'm really into someone, I can. But if also I'm really into someone, I can't. Yeah. It doesn't mean I don't like the, it's just the pheromones.

It's whatever it is, the chemistry. Yeah. That I could just keep going after that. Yeah. But that one, it's not, I'm not comparing. Yeah, what is that? Interesting. Yeah.

I don't know. This is like sex therapy for us. Yeah, I mean, but this is what I'm into these days. What is it? What I'm into these days is actually, and it's been for a while now, I'd say like for about at least a year. Right. I've been very fascinated by the entanglement of sex, sexual feelings and the emotional

field. And this is because I came of age sexually in the era of free life. I was out here at 17 and boom. You're fucking everything. Everything because I had a boyfriend too, but because it was free love. And so I didn't go through that, oh, I'm a bad girl. Oh, I'm going to be coy or I'm going to learn how to seduce. It was just like.

You're free. Free is a bird. And I really remained free until I became, until just before I became a mom, really. I mean, it was just my mindset. But in most ways, although I feel deeply passionately. I kind of go from like fixation to fixation to fixation. to fixation. But anyway, my sexuality was totally enmeshed with my emotional life. It was like if your deepest emotional truths are here and your sexuality is here, the more you keep hitting

that and getting into it, you know, it's going to get down in there and then it's going to get all entangled with your emotions. And I'm very interested, not in the disentanglement, but the awareness of it. I, you know, I had this podcast, and typical me, another podcast, another thing I've never brought to fruition, but I interviewed a bunch of people, including this woman who was the hereditary heir of tantric knowledge, tantric knowledge, which is sexual. And I found her fascinating. I found the way that she became that person fascinating, but also the whole idea of tantric sex and that actually, you know, part of that is the belief that sex is a path of

enlightenment, that if you do it right, you're like, you know, you get like a thing. And I'm fascinated by that. Okay. Okay. But yeah, I mean, but at the same time, if you don't think that it's intimidating, attacking someone, imagine how far this rap goes. Talk to me about tantric for a second, because Ryan, you probably don't know anything about it. That's why I'm asking. And I don't. Well, okay, I can't give you the whole lecture. But give me in a nutshell. Let me give you some tips. Tips.

Okay, no, let me give you some tips. You don't moan and stuff like that, like that. Let me give you some tips. Fine, give me some tips. Just the tips. Just practical. You know, what you're going to do is, you know how like men and women alike, we kind of have this goal-oriented mentality of like you start here and then you go race to the finish

line. So it's like all about building, building. building that has a lot to do with watching porn don't watch porn stop watching porn but you know it's like we have this mentality as you start here and then you you know you kind of ease and then you start pumping harder and harder and then boom you come right no okay so tell me how to fuck above please tell me how to have sex with a woman here's what you're going to do no by the way there are lots of people laughing but everyone right now who's listening is really listening to this because they want to know some things to why not improve your sex life why not

improve the way things because yeah men we rush it we're like oh my god this is you know see i'm guilty of that i can speed right i can come right now i mean not literally but you know on this podcast you know if you wanted to it probably no no i won't but here here's what i wanted to say okay tips for good sex life okay you must understand that men and and i'm just speaking to heteroes out there. Okay. Okay. I could, you know, I have that by thing, but I'm just speaking to Hedros. You have that by thing. Because you're a man. So let's just keep it confined. So let's just keep it to the men, women thing. Okay. Okay. You must acknowledge that men and women not only are different, but what we think differently. And it's even been proven scientifically. The synapsis are

different between the, you know, in the cerebral cortex. You don't have to convince me. I know that that we think differently. Well, number one, embrace that. Number one, embrace that. Number one, embrace the fact that when you speak to a woman, you're speaking to someone whose very brain is organized to listen and to perceive what you want and to pick up verbal cues and emotional cues. And women are highly able to tune.

into emotional needs. So when you've got a man who can speak emotionally and reveal emotional needs, and you've got a woman's attention. How do you do that? Give me an example. Like if I'm, let's say, we're together, I'm saying things to you like. Well, do you want me to tell you how to get laid? No, no.

No, I'm not saying that I'm saying. Because I can tell you things you say to get laid. Like right now, my mind went to, I'm with a way. woman, let's imagine what she's thinking and what she wants. Well, number one, you listen. You know, so for example, if you're going out, do you want me? I can get hyper detail. I'm just saying that you go out to dinner.

Right. You listen. What does she, what does she order? Does she order soup? Does she order something crunchy? Soft means that. Be easy with me. Soft means that she's.

Got some sadness in there. Crunchy means anger. So if she goes for the calamari, depending on how it's cooked? Depending on how it's cooked. Well, that's adventurous. I'd say calamari is adventurous. Right.

I'm up for. Okay, so you can read a woman more or read a guy by what they're ordering. No, no, no, no. I'm just saying it's for a man to, if a man cares about a woman, he should really try to, listen to her and respond honestly.

And then you might not even want to fuck her. You know what I mean? But if you've got a woman who's like, if you listen to her, it'll cancel out just that lust that you have for if you really listen. So once you're in the ballpark and you've heard what a woman, you've listened to her and you like her, then I think what you want to do is,

respond in some way let her know that you're listening to her because the reason I'm bringing those because I guess what I'm trying to say is that's the foreplay that's where four play starts for play is really listening for play for a woman starts with conversation well yeah for play for a man starts with what she's wearing right you know like you use kind of start your foreplay thing in your mind you are right you are right and by the way it's just about in general what you're saying is you know spend some time just talking and listening and getting that's that's a big part of it instead of just going right and also even if you're already having sex with this person it's a time saver it's just well we haven't gotten to how you have sex well I'm okay

because if that what I'm saying is boys remember that foreplay starts in conversation listening and also it'll save you a bunch of time because if you really listen to someone, you might go, you know what, I don't care how much I want to fuck her. This is a, the trail of tears here. And the same thing for a guy. And the same thing for a guy. How many times have you got, I want to fuck this guy?

And then they start talking and talking. You're like, no. Yeah. That's happened? Oh, yeah. This has happened with any big movie stars? Michael, shut up. Sorry, I went there.

Okay. I'm just curious, like the biggest, hunkiest, coolest, sexiest, most talented fuckers and you're like, they're stuck to you out of it. Talk to me out of it. And then they try, and you're like, no. I try to avoid even saying the word no in my life. I try to avoid it. Well, what do you say?

Uh-uh. It changes. So, what do you do? Distract. But let's get down to it. So now you've listened and you've gone, you know what? I'm aligning here. I'm aligning here with this person that I'm listening to.

So anyway, just cutting to the chase and getting to the tantric part, you know what, tantric sex is about is that you sit and you you you don't do anything you just look at each other well just sit there how long face each other you know put your hand on her heart or her body or something and you just don't do any okay you don't want to do this in the first time you have sex or something well excuse me for a second let me just either but that's why I'm saying that this thing about the first fuck you do have to get it out of the way because that's something that's your whole point to this get it out of that's why I was a little aggressive you're saying yeah because they can get it out of the way and then we can get into what I mean so you're also thinking I'm kind of like a guy that's exactly I was going to say you

you think you know what he wants you think the guy goes I'm going to be aggressive I'm going to give what he wants I'm going to fuck him yeah but I'm telling you it's not I don't know a lot of guys I don't know but maybe I just don't think that that maybe there's a happy medium maybe he's there hey you're not going to have sex with me if you want to be aggressive you say I'm not going to have sex But that would mean that a guy would have to say, Bev, Bev, I don't need that from you. Bev, I don't need. Have you that guys say that? I don't need that from you.

They don't need sex. Have they said that to you? I think I've heard everything. Have guys turned down sex for you from you? Yeah. Like you said, I'm willing and they're like, oh, no. Yeah. Really?

I find that hard to believe. It's happened. Well, maybe was it, were you aggressive with them? Yes. So maybe that, maybe that whole thing is, there's good reasoning on your side. Yeah, but what they didn't do was go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop, whoa, whoa, stop for a second, listen to me. Stop, you're fucking hot. I want to jump your bones. I just, we got to take it slow. This is kind of like, I don't know, it's just not, not whatever. You'd be cool with that as long as he said,

Hey, take it slow. Well, I think for, I think for me, whoa, whoa, whoa, Beth. I think for me, it has to be a fearless man who, who loves to, who would love, who would love to try to be in charge of this. So how about this? Let me pretend him another, let me pretend him another guy. You know what I mean? I'm doing a whole show. Yeah, I'm doing a whole show.

Hey, hey, hey, you don't need to do that shit. Yeah, now you're talking, baby. That's the guy. Hang on. That's the guy. This is the guy. I got channeled him. Hey, Beth.

Don't need to do that shit. Okay. And then I'd start crying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Get over here. So it's still sexy. He's like, come here. Let me just calm down.

Calm down. And then you're like, whoa. And then I'm like, I'm calm. John Henley. No. Why does everybody talk about Don Henley? Do they? Well, you had sex with Don Henley

I didn't have sex with Donnelly. I didn't have sex with Don't. I'm not, you know, if you really think that... I thought you said it on my last podcast. I didn't. Did you not? No. Okay, Carrie did.

Carrie did. She dated him for a while. That's how we became best friend. That's right. Yeah. I know that whole story. And if you haven't heard it, you can listen to the other podcast. And you know what?

Don't. You know, I'm done with that. I got to keep my thing straight now. Listen, you know, you talk, you, you are self-deprecating. I am myself deprecating. Well. I hate that about myself. Well, you know.

The editor got it. I got it. Now I lost my thought, dude. You said I was self-deprecating. No, I think, we all are. And I think that's a defense mechanism. It's like, you do have all these great things. But I think you always are like, oh, I'm not acting enough.

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at locally owned stores. Benjamin Moore, see the love. How old? You said you went out with a 36-year-old. Kind of, yeah. Okay, was that fun? Yeah. Would you date another 36-year-old?

Or do you want to have a real serious relationship? Someone you can grow old with. No, I, you know, honestly, I even thought that probably the best person for me would either be someone who's married, so I don't have to deal with any of that or even, you know, even. unable in some way. Disabled? Unable. Unable? Unable what?

Unable to do what? Unable to be in a relationship. Devoured by me. Because when I'm in the yearning, when I'm in the desire, that's when all my stuff comes out and I become brilliant. And I have to finish my show. I have to get that thing performed.

You know, I've been working on that for a long time. Do you think, How passionate, by the way, are you about your career now? Because, I mean, you just finished insatiable. I'm totally, I'm totally passionate about it, yeah. Like, that's what you're doing it. I'm making, I'm mounting this show that's unbelievable with video and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm looking to be in that stage of need. Well, I just, I just, I either got to get somebody to break my heart so I can finish it or, or more material.

Yeah. But also, this is the thing. What I find myself doing is I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm looking to be in that stage of need. And I find that I'm attracted to, you know, things that will put me in that state of need. Because it seems to be the only way that I can create something is if I want something or somebody that doesn't want me. Do you want to stop the cycle? No, that's my point. So you are attracted to people fucking you over.

Is that what you're telling me? It gets me going. So you're not really sad that those things don't work out. It just helps you. So this is all just a. Come on. I'm not kidding. Do you think every great thing came from you, your heartbreak or somehow you hitting

your eye, yearning, yearning, desire, desire, desire, desire. Do you want to be? Not sexual desire, just desire, desire, desire. That's what gets me to be in that state of desire. So you really don't need someone. You really deep down, don't want. I do. I do.

I need a guy who made me feel of desire to make you feel the desire to make you feel the desire so you could use him for when he done. dumps you. How could he really dump you if you want him to dump you? Because I pick someone who will never get there in the first place. I think deep down you're full of shit. I think deep down there's something that you really do want something meaningful and long. Because you haven't hurt. You haven't hurt. But also you have had great sex. You've had a great life. You've had all these great things. So maybe you just want to focus on your career. I don't know. You tell me. That was awfully demanding, Michael. God. You said you liked it.

You're being in charge of me. I'm being in charge. You're being in charge. Ooh. Yes, I want to keep doing what I'm doing with my eyes on the prize of full expression of what it's meant to be alive on my path. It's good stuff that I must share, that I want to share. Where are you your happiest, honestly? When do you feel I'm happy at this moment?

when I'm in that state of desire. Does work give you that, the feeling? Working on my show does, yes. Working on your show, but like working in insatiable? That didn't give you any kind of... The first episode it did, because I thought I was on to something, but then it kind of mutated into something else. Well, then you come crazy and kidnap people and kidnap the guy and...

I didn't mind that. I just felt that I had lost my kinship with the writer or the showrunner. I felt like I had lost her. Like she didn't want to talk to you anymore? Like she wasn't interested in me. She was like, yeah, yeah. I got it, got it, do that. I felt like that, but that happens.

Sure. You're passionate about something and then all of a sudden you kind of. But it's also, you know, it can happen for a minute. You've been on series before. It can happen for a million reasons. And by the way, that's not in any way of put down at all, not in any way. I just, well, it didn't get picked up. so insatiable but didn't get picked up no I thought that I know of I thought did two seasons two seasons but I haven't

heard about the third one I should say it hasn't been picked up yet my friend Sarah Colonna works on that you don't know her you never worked with her but she said you're great she thinks she's great I think she's great I think she's great I think she's great I what she said she's fantastic she's um you're gonna read her I said hi let's call her let's call her I love her Sarah what are you gonna say I'm gonna say hey it'll be odd she did a few apps she plays a pageant coach but the show was dark and she's crazy in it she kidnaps the main character uh blah blah blah and she's super fun in it no super fun in it well just tell her you're sitting with me and i love her in it and and i'd love to meet her sometime for real i met her once in the makeup trap really yeah she's a

sweetheart um i mean obviously are you close with your kids the kids and tom and my kids and my kids and my kids and we're a wonderful family because there's a lot of time in your life when you and Al weren't close. And now you kind of like get along with the girl he's with. Wonderful. He broke up with her. But yeah, it's all, no, we have a spectacular friendship. In fact, I take him more of my, I tell him everything.

Does he live in town? Yeah, yeah. I tell him everything. I don't know if he tells me everything, but, you know. Does he call you? Yeah, we talk all the time, yes. But that's different the last couple years, right? No, no, no, no, no.

This has been going on for a few years. But before that, it was no talk, right? Right? No, it was always talk, but, you know, we kind of went from, like, loving each other, becoming parents, hating each other, becoming friends, and then best friends. And now you're back into best friends. Does he call you, like, little things like, you know, Bev, I don't know, this girl. Does you start talking to you about girls? You know, I've got to tell you something. You know, I've known now 24 years, and if you've noticed, I'm, I'm maybe the only person who's never discussed my relationship with him. And I won't now. It's really private. it really i've told you a lot you have but i like that your my point is i like that you're you guys get along so well me too everybody it's just a rarity i don't think it's a rarity but it's also me i've got that wiring i am designed to to have long-term relationships i always view even intimate relationships

i always view them as like they're two tracks there's like you can have a profound friendship because of the intimacy that you've incurred and wanting to share these feelings and and or you can have and there's the sexual track but but my feeling is that if the sexual track interferes with that profound friendship it's kind of a waste of time who are your the professional friends in light that you've worked with that you've remained close close friends name one everybody chevy chevy is chevy probably your closest in terms of uh longest longest well i like that i think that you're uh you're a likable you've always been like well and you know i like to be like well you are you're like i like to harmonious at me at

You always talk about, you remember Carrie used to have all these big parties at our house, these gatherings, even if it was 10 of us or whatever. It was just fun. It felt like any, you know, it's cheers. Everybody. I only just stopped entertaining people. Well, that's what I was saying. Yeah. Because you would have some of these things and you started get it going. And I think that you should do it more often. Not that you have to do it all the time. I know. But we need to get some of the game back together. I did. Alan and I did all the holiday parties together. That was good. But it was just you guys, right? Because you and the kids and him. Well, it expanded. I know. Don't get mad. me don't don't don't what you didn't invite me i think i did you did say you didn't i did invite you you did i couldn't make it because that's right that's right yeah that's right yeah that's right you're having everything but the next time i talk to you i want to be talking about you about to go do your one-leman show well you got help but i don't listen i don't want you to you don't need to rush you're not it doesn't have to be done tomorrow but i'm so afraid i'll run out of juice you know you're not going to run out of juice it's all there it's in your head i've heard your head I've heard the noise.

It would go a lot faster. You need a director. You know what? Well, I've had two directors, but actually what I'm doing now is, you know, I kind of I was a member of the Actors Studio in New York and now I'm doing classes here. You're taking acting classes? I'm in the acting class. I'm, you know, watching.

I haven't put a scene up, but I'm also going to take the director's classes. Really? What made you want to do that? Well, it was Al's idea that I find a place to. just stay engaged while my musical guy has gone and also because he knows what I'm going through of like I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I got I don't know what I need do I need to get my heart broken by this guy do I need to work out for two hours until my muscles are I mean like what do I need to do to access the muse I need the muse I need the muse

every day yeah and you know I do things to access the muse but my strongest one is find that unavailable person and yearn and an energy comes out of it. I'm not kidding. I know I'm fucked up, but this is life. And I will tell you one thing. That originally, you know, songs that were written were written in the church and they were written as aspirations to God. And romantic songs or lays came about when there was a shift. And the singers stopped singing about, I love you God. And I, you know, come to me, show me your light. and started singing that to a woman, I love you, bring me you.

You know, that's the shift that happened. I'm learning a lot from me. In the 1400s. Right, are you learning? And so I even think at times like, okay, these desires, these yearnings, maybe it's just I want the higher thing. Maybe I just want to connect to the universe.

If I could just get a direct shot from the universe into my creative spirit, I would be happy. But I seem to always have to go through a man. Do you, a man, you go through a man? Do you think, do you see a therapist? No. You don't go to therapy at all? Not now, no.

Do you think you need therapy? No. Why is that? I did altered state therapy. That's the kind of therapy I like. Altered state. Yeah. And is that with drugs at all?

Ketamine. Ketamine. Mm-hmm. I did ketamine for pain. It didn't help me. It doesn't work for pain. It didn't. Well, they said it would.

It works for PTSD. So you had a lot of PTSD. I didn't have a lot of PTSD. I had, I had four. specific things I was going after and I and I worked with the you do exactly what they were I spoke with him a few times to kind of nail down and I I went after it I mean the way that I did it was not in a clinic it was it was privately and it was it was immensely helpful and when I say to you you know oh I've you know I need to have a man I I'm not saying that to you as a self-deprecating thing I'm

saying that as a woman who understands her machinery. I'm saying that as a woman who understands her creative machinery. I became an actress because Nilo Schoorman said, Anjolichko, you have to decide if you will be a good girlfriend or a good actress. And I thought, what does he need more? He needs someone to star in his movie. I can do that. I wanted to be a singer. And I was singing jazz and kind of writing these plaintiff little songs in Canada. And Ronnie Hawkins, his band had just left him and gone on the road

with Dylan as the hawks or whatever. And he said, you know, stick with me and I'll have you part in through silk. So I learned all these rockabilly tunes. It's always been in service of some man and I always get out of it carrying the pearls. But it just, that's my

machinery and I'm kind of into it. Although I have of late thought is it really, am I just trying to get to that universal that universal consciousness where all of our hopes and desires and creativity lies to make some art but here's what i think i know that my i sound like i'm foolish in no i think some people will think you're probably a little crazy and some people will think you're genius what's so crazy about what i just said let me let me no tell me crazy and genius there's a thin line i think what you're saying makes perfect sense to me some people will think oh whatever

but why do i want to deal with those people exactly that's my point but what that was mine what i'm thinking is this i know where mine my mind goes in millions of places and i could feel like all i'm all over the place which i you probably feel in a lot of ways too well you're open right but then i sort of feel like you know i'm like oh you know i'm this and i'm thinking of this and i'm thinking of this and how do i calm my mind down well there is that one thing i think it was einstein but that's why i go to therapy just because i like to channel all this shit for an hour and a half and then go i feel good it's out of my chest I do it in a different way.

I write songs. I work on my show. You use it. I use it. Yeah, I use it. See? And I mean, it's getting frustrating because all the work that I've been doing since last May, I don't have something to show for it.

So it does sound crazy. When I say, I'm using it, it sounds crazy. If I was just in a normal life and I wasn't, and I didn't have any creative outlets, like, oh, yeah, maybe I should do therapy, but that's not where I'm at. But I think, you know. I'm not at that. No. By the way, if you say your.

crazy because in a year or whatever you haven't figured out a one woman show that's the genius that you've been thinking for your for how many every years it takes time you know what rufus said he said i should just book the gig and then i'll have to do it you know what somebody else just told me what they said don't book the gig people always wait here's what he said this actually you know who this was this was billy boyd from lord of the rings he was on the last podcast or podcast a few weeks ago and he says this made a lot of sense people are always in there that accent and he's like i won't do the accent but he said people are always wanting to perfect something to rehearse it so much and then before because they don't want people to think or show it to that when it's not finished and he goes that's just part of it go out there but here's the thing that is my second phase my second phase is in april when kirk comes back from the row with dweasel and we are going to put it on its feet there you go last question yeah has al did you ever ask al i know fuck about the poster no nothing sexual, nothing. I said poster. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, you're going to get him. Yeah, no, he'll do that. You said he did. No, I'm going to ask you about this. Did you ever ask him to run lines or did he ever ask you or run lines? I just think that'd be funny watching you guys run lines together. I'm not going to indulge in this kind of psychophantic fan-based line of questioning. It's really demeaning and you, you shouldn't do that. It's, wait, it's demeaning. It's demeaning yourself. When someone posits a fan-like thing, that means,

They put someone above them. I don't. If you put someone above you, you're putting someone below it. If I was dating Nicole Kidman and someone goes, did she ever run lines with you? I'd go, yeah, she did it. I'd say none of your business. Fuck you, Beverly DeAngelo. Will you go out to dinner with me again soon?

Yeah. This is called shit talk with Rosenbaum. Quick questions. Answer quickly. Benjamin Jay. The Cento is one of the nudiest horror movies ever made with lots of great actors making brief appearances. Do you have any stories from working on this movie and being directed by Michael Winter?

I have a great story, and here's what it is. I'll make it brief. Let's do it. I'm in New York. I came to New York from Canada with a Broadway show. It opened, it closed. Lots of casting directors dug me. It was a musical version of Hamlet.

I got called in to meet with Michael Winner, who was doing his next film after Death Wish. I go into the meeting. He says to me, he talks to me for a few minutes, and he says, I want you to take this script home and read the role of Sondra because I'm offering it to you. I'd never been in the movies. I wasn't in Screen Actors Guild.

I go home, I read it. I call up the casting director and say, I need to come back down and meet Michael Winner. said, that's very unusual. You need your agent to arrange that. And I said, no, no, no, no, I don't have an agent, but I need to talk to me. Offered me the role. She goes, what? She comes back on the phone two minutes later and says, Michael, we'll see you. I go down there and I said, okay, Michael, look, I'm a singer. I'm not an actress. But if I wanted to be an actress, do an actress, do you think I really want to do this movie. And it goes, my dear, I've done Death Wish, I've worked with Marlon. Of course you want to do this movie. Starring Ava Gardner, Burgess Merritt, all the greats. I said, but look, look, look, on page 60, I'm eating the brains out of a guy's head. and I'm a zombie or something. He said, but my dear, you'll be eating the brains out of Chris Sarandon's head and he's just been nominated for an Oscar for Dog Day Afternoon. And I said, well, okay, but look at this, look at this, look at this.

And page 60 or whatever page it was, I've got a, I've got a masturbation scene and I'm part of a lesbian couple. And he goes, a mute part of a lesbian couple. when he was, but my dear, your lesbian lover will be played by Sylvia Miles, and she's been nominated twice. So I thought, okay. So you did it.

Yeah. All right, Andrew C. Any great memories working on Annie Hall back in 77? I, again, same thing. Broadway show closed. I had done The Sentinel at this point. I still didn't have a screen actor's guild card. Cast and director called me in to meet Woody Allen.

I had just happened to have a dream about him the night before. I took in my diary. I said, look, I just dreamt that you were in my backyard in the snow playing the tuba. And he said, I'm working on a film. Can you come and be in it tomorrow? I said, yeah. And that's how I ended up in Annie Hall. Raj, any interesting stories from working on The Simpsons?

Oh, well, Dave Merkin's speaking of a long time. Dave, love Dave. Dave Merkin's one of my true friends to this day. And it was always fabulous. And I wrote, finally bagged me a homer for that show and have the publishing. And it's made me very, very happy. Janelle S. Christmas vacation, very special place in so many hearts.

What are your favorite memories? Or just a memory from the set that you remember that you're like, ah, remember that. Or just in general. I remembered that they were so rushed when we were getting this group shot that I said to Chevy, I'm going to put my hand on your crotch. And I bet the director won't catch it. And it was true.

And there's a shot in there because we only had one day. I love that. Yeah, yeah. He goes, freeze. And that's the one they used. It is because it was the only one. We had to get it. And I said that director's never going to notice.

what I'm doing because he never did. Lisa, which version of the Griswold kids do you feel most embodied the spirit of the Griswold's? I'm very partial to the first vacation because it was so innocent and so pure, but they're all so cool. I just did a screening at the Academy of Christmas Vacation with Juliette Lewis and Johnny Galecki, and they're just, you know, cooking on all four burners. They're all great. Brittany, G. How did I feel getting called in to come into a vacation movie in 2015?

Did it bring back memories starring with Chevy again? Well, Chovey and I had just finished doing, we either had just finished. Oh, no, we were just on our way to doing a pilot together. So it was just a reunion of sorts. Nico P., if you could go back and we choose acting or music as a career path, which would you choose and why? I would, I had an album deal and I didn't do it. I would have, if I could go back, I would have said, Beverly, just keep pushing, stay true to yourself. don't give up just because they all want disco.

Karen B, Beverly, what was it like growing up with just brothers being the only girl? Well, I think it affected me in the way that I relate to men as brothers and that's not sexy. And that's what Michael and I have been talking about. Because if you had to boil me down, wouldn't you say I'm a sister type? Sister? Don't I impress you as a sister. I'm not mysterious. I'm friendly.

I'm not like the sister. I, well, I mean, I've known you for so long, but if I, if I was a dude that was like, you know, didn't know you, I'd be like, she's kind of sexy. She's funny. She's ridiculous. Yeah, but I'm not athletic. Like I think. Well, you got to throw a ball to be sexy? What the fuck? No, no, no, no, to be a true sister. Anyway, I don't know. But here's what I do know. My best girlfriends, except for two of them are dead. Um, so my world is populated by all men and it's very comfortable. I love men. I love to be around men. I love the way they think. I love the way they can compartmentalize. They inspire. me. I live for them. Just don't attack them. Just die now. Last, Angie, can you share one thing you miss the most about the late, great, Carrie Fisher? And side note, also, I have to say that after your Don Henley's story, the last episode, I decided you are my spirit animal. So one story that we don't know about Kara, that you just remember, that you just, a small moment. Oh, God. It's 34 years of small moments. I know. There's so many moments. Oh, oh, oh, you've caught me off balance.

Moment that was just you and her. A million of them. I know. Just lying on her bed. A million of them. Watching old movies. A million of them. I can't.

I'll tell you a moment. My son was dying and he was triaged into Columbia, Presbyterian, New York. I was in Alaska. My son was eight weeks old and I was film. And I didn't know what to do. And I called Carrie. And it was about one. the afternoon and Carrie was there by midnight with a pillow and a blanket and she stayed with me

until my son was okay three days later. There's a moment for you. Wow. And she just went, come on, let's go shopping in the gift shop. No, I don't want to put the baby down, Beth. Come on. You know, but that's a sad. I went to the sad. No, that's good. It's a good moment. I showed you what a good friendship. Because you always hear these funny stories, but that's a moment. I will tell you this, that that weekend that we met, the Don Henley story. Yeah. the myriad of Hot Springs. We drove home together. I'd taken a limo down there.

We drove home together and we stopped at a place and got our hair crimped in the same hairstyle. They were like these crimping islands and we had like really weird hair. That was fun. How old were you? Oh, when I met Carrie, 27. Wow. All right.

I love this. This is great. Okay. I love you. I love you. I love listening to that lady. She's out there, isn't she? She's wonderful.

and brilliant and all that stuff. Beverly DeAngelo, thank you again for listening. I hope you enjoyed it. Always tweet us and Instagram us or hello at inside of you podcast.com and you could, you know, ask me questions, write in letters. I love the letters that you send and we'll read one. But first, let's give a shout out to the top tiers of patron, Patreon. All right, here we go. Nancy D. Mary B. Leah S. Trisha F. Sarah V. U. Kiko. Jill E. Brian H. Lauren G. Nico P. Barry I. A big shout out to Nico P for helping me with my neck. Got some Botox injections in the back of my neck.

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as much as my nerd heart enjoys it for the content and great guests the heart is what keeps bringing me back it helps to know that there are other broken children out there that are still trying to figure shit out well into adulthood amen my mother is dying and when I went to see her a few months ago for the first time in years I left knowing it would be the last time I saw her I also know that I left without

real closure or resolution and that she would die unchanged and without any remorse for what she did to her children. I'm never going to get... I'm never going to get what I needed from her. It is what it is.

I feel like this is a theme in the podcast, and I appreciate the frankness of it. I'm still working through how I feel about her, and I never really feel the need to talk about it, but listening to the show on my drive home is therapeutic. Knowing there are kindred spirits out there lightens the burden

and allows me to give myself some grace and extend it to those around me. I hope it does the same for you. Keep pushing out episodes, and I will keep listening. Kate. Kate, you sent this,

I'm not exactly sure when you sent this, but it was months ago, and sometimes they don't get around to them. But first of all, I'm sorry about your mom. and I'm sorry you didn't get closure but you know that I think an important part of all this is knowing the truth and only you can know the truth how you feel about her is how you feel about her and you know sometimes you can't make excuses for people you can't say oh well this and this

forgiving is is important knowing the truth is important i'm not a therapist but i've gone to enough therapy to kind of sort of understand it so kate thanks for your letter it's brave and and i really appreciate you listening and more so i'm glad you get something out of this show I really am. I really think that's, you know, that's good. That's all I can say. Oh, that was heavy. I hope you guys enjoyed the show.

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