Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - Brent Burns

Episode Date: April 9, 2019

Brent Burns (San Jose Sharks, 6x All-Star) discusses growing up in a hockey family just north of Toronto, how he always wanted to be in either the military or the NHL, and how he got his two front teeth knocked out as soon as he got his braces off. Burns discusses how lucky he was to be drafted by Minnesota and how mentally and physically strong players coming into the league are now. He opens up about losing to the Penguins in game 6 of the Stanley Cup, how fat he used to get in the offseason, and the time he got attacked by a cheetah. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I love it because he can't be here to humiliate me and talk about my age and how I'm single. Uh-oh. I'm channeling Rob through me right now because he somehow just did because I talked about it. You can hear Jess giggling. And Jess is my assistant. He's been to my assistant for five years. Jess, how are you? I'm pretty swell.

We got a great show today. Brent Burns, San Jose Sharks. I know, Jess, you're from San Jose. I know the way to San Jose. I left your uncle tickets, or Brent did. Burnsey left for your uncle. He's sober. He was sober 20 years.

It was 20 years. Yes. And Bernsey left him tickets and saw him after his tough, toughly fought game. They lost that game. He went down and saw your uncle. Yes. See, that's what kind of guy, Brent.

Burns is. He's on the podcast. He talks about so many things. We had to meet in his hotel because, you know, he was playing the next night against the Kings. They had a couple losses. They're about to go in the playoffs against the Golden Knights. The Golden Knights. Is that what they're called? The Vegas Golden Knights. That's my friend Terran's team. Yeah, they can go to hell because I'm, I'm rooting for San Jose and Bernsey. I've played, we talk about everything. I played with the, you know, I practiced with them in the camp before the season started a couple years ago and got to play with NHL players to their training camp, and it was hard as shit. We talk about that.

We talk about his life, his career, his, it's really interesting. We haven't talked to many athletes, but he's got a really interesting story, and the odds of making it in the NHL are just, it's slimmed in on folks. But since you're here, before we get into our great guest, you know, some major news just happened in Hollywood, something that I didn't know about, but I worked with this person for for a long time, seven years. But Allison Mack pled guilty to what? Racketeering and racketeering conspiracy charges related to her role in the group, Nexium.

According to the New York Times, she said she was lost. And in a tear-filled confession, she admitted to luring women into nexium, where they were extorted and coerced into following Mr. Reneer's orders. So did she take responsibility? For all our actions, she's like, is she blaming Reneer? According to her, her very own words, I must take full responsibility for my conduct. You know, until this time, I had really had hopes for, you know, you always hear something happened to people. You know, well, I heard that person was really good.

And I, it's pretty shocking to me. You know, people were asking me and I was like, you know, when I went to conventions and Simon, you know, they were told not to talk about it. Because I really didn't know anything about it. Tom and I, we didn't know anything other than, you know, back on Smallville, she was You know, one of the self-help programs, I think it was called, but it wasn't this. This was something a long time ago. I remember even once she asked me, she's like, hey, you should come.

It's really cool. And it wasn't, again, nexium, right? Isn't it a skin cream, too? Or hair product? Yeah, whatever. We're getting off the subject. Anyway. She'll be sentenced in September as she could get as many as 40 years.

But I remember when she said, do this. I was like, nah, that's okay. I don't really need any of that. And I never thought about it. And then I guess she went through a couple of these self-help programs leading up to this one. So she can get up to 40 years. Man, it seems like a lot of actors, actresses are, you know, actors and now actresses are going down. You have those two that for the school, the bribing or the, what were the names?

Oh, the college admission scandal. Felicity Huffman also pled guilty today. Well, she pled guilty, but she only gave 15 grand. They kind of got to smack. All right, 15 grand. But you can't say only. Hey, come on. Hey, here's 15 grand.

She paid to have her daughter's scores change. 15 grand. Come on. No. She's my daughter. I was trying to help her out. You think she's going to get any years? No.

Yes. No. She won't go to jail? Yes. Really? Yes. Oh, my God. Yes.

You're so hardcore. Anyway, I'll sum this up by just saying that I'm just kind of shocked about this. I just don't, I didn't, you don't see. It's like, you know, I use the analogy of, you know, if somebody said, oh, your brother killed someone. No, he didn't. I know my brother. He wouldn't kill someone. Not that I knew Allison like that. But when you're on set with her every day and you see her in her demeanor, her personality, you just don't, you don't think of stuff like this. And you think maybe she was brainwashed.

It moved from self-help into something real ugly. Well, I'm sorry to all the women who were involved who got, you know, the abused women and the women who were, you know, lured in to this. And branded with her initials and his initials. Yeah, that's just, it's, it's. It's shocking. It's all you could say. You hear things like this and you're just like, wow.

And people, of course, I get 50 emails today. Dude, did you hear about your co-star? Everybody wants to know it. And until now, I didn't know what to say. I was just like, well, let's just see what happens. I can't, I couldn't believe it. And now that she pled guilty, it's not good. Anyway, let's get inside Brent Burns.

It's my point of view. You're listening to inside of you. with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. She's, I don't know what to say, Bernsey, because I know you so well. I mean, I think I know you.

I'm looking at you right now. You're toothless, you're bearded. You got Norb... What are they called? You were calling them Nordic Tracks. Nordic. I know that's not right. What are they?

The Norma Tech. Norma Tech. Now, what is the purpose? There's these giant leggings he's wearing. It's like, it's for blood supply. Is that what it is? Yeah, it's just kind of cycles through. I get the big backpack all the time. I bring kind of. Yeah, you've got a 150 pound camouflage backpack. We're in the hotel here in Los Angeles. You're about to play the Kings tomorrow night. Yeah. Right. So I try to bring, like, you know, I think the best investment you can make is on your own body. So I try to bring, you know, throughout the years, I've, played with a lot of guys, uh, through the league and, and, and you learn different things from different people on, you know, what works for them. And, you know, it's all about trying to find your own routine and trying to work what, whatever you think can help help yourself, extend yourself in the league. And, uh, so wait a minute. So for me, it's just like, you, you're going home

on Friday. You're going back to San Jose. It doesn't matter for it's 15 days. It's a 50 minute flight. Yeah, yeah. It's one day or 15 days. But you guys, it's routine. You got to do it. Is it, is it psychological big time i think it's i mean i think this this helps me this is a medical tool so what does it do what does it do so it's it cycles through like the you can see like this there's compartments and they they each blow up and compress and then they go up the legs so it's forcing all the the bad blood the lactic acid out to your heart to clean it out and then pump fresh blood back in so is it good for normal human beings unlike yeah this is a medical device they they put this on people with uh like bad blood flow diabetes

Yeah, yeah, that kind of struggle with that. Yeah, it helps. And how much does their unit like that cost? Does the NHL give it to you? No, no, no, yeah. We pay for these. You pay for them? I think they're like $3,000.

Oh, we know your agent who's sitting on the other bed, Ronnie. Yeah, he didn't pay for it. You know he didn't fucking pay for it. We just had dinner at Koi Fish and his credit card was missing. Yeah, it was gone. And then he rolls off in a Bentley. Yeah, the card still had the sticker on it. He had a call to activate it, so he missed the bill.

How long has he been, Ronnie, been your agent? Since 2005. He's been stuck with me, kind of babysitting me, and it's been great. He's been in the business for a long time, and we've got a special relationship. And, yeah, it's been great. He's been huge for me. He talks me off a lot of cliffs late night. Yeah, we were talking about that at dinner, and I didn't want to get into it because I wanted to save it for now.

But, like, when you say talks shot off a lot of cliffs, I don't know. Like actors in the industry, we all get in our heads and we're, like, insecure and we want attention. But like an NHL hockey player, you probably go through other psychological things. Yeah, for us, confidence is so big in our game. And, you know, there's so many different issues you could be dealing with, whether it's your place in the team, something that's happening, you know, off-ice stuff, family stuff, whatever it is. Like, he's always been there for me with everything.

So, you know, whether I've had a bad game and I'm miserable. Do you get in your head a lot? Do you still get in your head? I think everybody does. Yeah, it's, you always hear people talk about riding the. roller coaster riding the wave in hockey and it's uh players talk about that to each other oh for sure it's i mean it's hockey's crazy it's it's a it's a game of seconds and inches and reads there's not a lot of set things that happen so every time you go out it's different so if if your confidence is just a

little bit off it makes a huge difference for your for yourself and and uh you know you're affecting the other guys on the ice and it's uh yeah it's crazy the confidence is so important and you know your self-talk, your self-belief, and you need to have those people that understand you well enough to be able to get you back. Because you're going to lose it throughout the year multiple times, but if you can have somebody that can help you get over that and get you through it, it's huge. Well, I told you right before we came here, it was at least like two years since I had auditioned.

Now, I had done some shows and a couple of movies or whatever, but I had an audition for a long time so yeah when i walked in there i was i was nervous and i was like i felt like it was my first time i do you ever get like in your head so much we're not like it's your first time but if you're having a couple bad games do you ever feel a little bit like not yourself on the ice like you get in your head there's 20 000 people people are watching it's the sunday night game like or somebody fart no it's a the compression that's somebody that was you you're trying to blame it off on somebody but do you ever like with all these people do you ever get feel like I feel I'm kind of nervous.

I'm on edge. I'm not relaxed. But it's like a confidence thing. Like if you mess up, if you make a bad play or bad read and, you know, you look up at the jumbo tron and you're like, wow, what was I think in there?

Like, you know, there's a reason why we do that play, but, you know, everybody else, it's just a bonehead play. You know, they don't really, you know, maybe you're thinking about a read from a previous game or you're thinking about a system thing and it's just completely wrong, which happens all the time

and then they score you don't feel good at that next shift you got to figure out a way to to kind of bounce back and get in your talk yourself through it and get back but you know that next shift's important

because if it doesn't go well too you're in for one where do we meet? We met at the Brookheimer tournament yeah we met there at a hockey tournament in Vegas a bunch of NHLers actors producers whatever

we all got together and it was a magical weekend of just fun But I was so pumped because I was a huge Smallville guy. That's right. I've always forget that. And I was like, holy fuck, that's Lex Luthor in the pool over there. And they're like, yeah, he's on the other team.

And I was like, what? I was like, it was unreal. What do you mean the other team? Oh, they were playing another team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I didn't know at that time. That was like the day one of the tournament. You watched all Smallville, like all the episodes?

I was huge. Yeah, I have all. I mean, you gave me a box set, but I had them all before, like the individual seasons and stuff. So we met in Vegas. Yeah, we met there. And we hit her. off. It was like I just... Yeah, yeah, which was crazy because I was just like, oh my God, that's Lex Luthor. And you're like, you probably didn't have

any idea. Like, who is this weird off? Well, I knew why I heard, you know, you were a player, but I think why I liked you is because you were a big kid like me. I felt like you were just a big kid. We just have fun. Like, you look at you and you're like, that guy doesn't make millions of dollars playing a professional sport.

I mean, you look at yourself. Yeah. I mean, you do. This guy loses. Well, you're 240 pounds. You're six foot six. You're a big dude. I mean, when people see you on the ice, it's like a different thing. But not seeing you on the ice, not knowing you, you're like, who's that big guy? Who's that big fuck? You know, I think I saw a guy like that, you know, and beat the shit out of me in college or something.

You got no teeth. You got this, but you're just, but you have such a personality. Like, you're just like this kid who loves, you love animals, you love your toys. You saw that I had a conversion van. And then you're like, I got to get one. But, of course, you went above me and bought a fucking biggest RV. known to man and I think day one you you crashed it yeah I buckled it into my roof the first time grabbing it so pissed you know that Ronnie you knew it with the RV you

I mean I you I looked out of my researching for like a year and a half two years you know and I thought I knew everything about them but you can't like just go see an RV place unless you live close one they're not everywhere they're like you know then you go to an RV spot and and they only have certain ones so we ended up buying our our RV without ever seeing it and you had to drive it yeah he's like all right here's the keys i signed all the paperwork and everything and i'm like there is no way i'm driving this out of here like how the fuck is this coming home so i was like hey i might need to get a like a little lesson like you got to get me out of the parking lot so then you took me for a half hour a lesson said okay and you're good and i'm like wow but you're

wrecked it that yeah i buckled it into a actually that one that one i buckled into a there was like two poles at a burger king and my kid i thought it was going to be kind of a quick thing but it ended up being there like seven hours kind of it was like a long day so we ended up going to burger king for to grab some food for the kids and i might have grabbed a couple whoppers and muck them down too but i balkled the telephone pole on the way out you just you were so mad at yourself i remember yeah i didn't even know ever susan a thony wreck the freaking thing the first day oh yeah i didn't even know because i was driving and then she was behind me in the jeep because that's how we got there and uh and she's honking horn but the thing is they're big and they're like soundproof you can't

hear anything so she was honking and i was like So I finally seen her, like, waving her arms, got out. And she's like, oh, my God, did you not hear me? You're smoking that ball. I'm like, no, no, we missed it. The whole side. Smoke. How much damage?

It was like at least 10 feet. The whole side smoked that telephone ball. And then there's like little panels. So like two of the panels were like indented in. But there was no structural damage. You were pissed off, aren't you? Oh, man. It was just like, just.

Did you always know you want to be a hockey player? Yeah, I was in, I grew up in a hockey family. Ontario, right? What's it called? Toronto. Like, I say Toronto, but I grew up a little bit further north in Lindsay and then and Barry. Why did you start skating?

Oh, it was like one and a half maybe. Was your, my dad played hockey. So he played like Beer League hockey a couple times a week, and I would always go to that. And, you know, we'd watch hockey all the time. We were big leaf fans. Who's your favorite player in the Leafs? Matt Sundeen. I like Felix Potvin.

Doug Gilmore. I was always like a Steve Iversman. Yeah, I liked Wendell Clark, but I was like a big Steve Irishman, Wayne Grattsky, obviously, Peter Forsberg. I was fans of them, but always like the Leafs. We're always teams that cheer for.

But your dad was a beer league player, so he probably wasn't thinking, oh, my son's going to grow up one day and be one of the biggest stars in the NHL, right? I mean, did you always think as a kid like, I want to be in NHL right right away? No, yeah, for sure for me. my like I always wanted to be in the special forces in the military or in the NFL why the military I just always my grandfather lived with me my dad's dad and he was in

the military he fought in World War II and I would just hear stories and stuff and I don't know it was just always a huge passion of mine I love I love the outdoors and um you know I always like I would hear stories of like or like watch movies you know of like snipers like going through training and then like being able to do anything with like a screwdriver like surviving like a guy yeah like a can of coke it could just survive i always thought that was unreal and and uh you know did you have did you hunt in your with your in your family no nobody was hunting no so nobody ever hunted in the family you never were like no no no not at all it was just uh my grandfather was just with his like fighting in war war two that experience uh and then i would

hear stories from them and we had a loft and I would always go dig up there and my dad held these like war war books that I just loved to read I was like in grade two and three reading these thick war books and my teachers are probably like what is wrong with this kid like you just fascinated love them loved it and uh so that was always my goal I remember like leaving school and going to the hockey rink to play hockey and my teachers are like hey you got to like come to math class and I was like no I want to play in the NHL or I'm going to be I'm going to be a sniper that's what I wanted that was it that was it I never really I was always pretty good in school yeah so I could I could miss it you were good in school so you had good grades I had really good grade because if somebody who meets you obviously they look at you and they're like oh that guy probably didn't graduate yeah there's no way that's how they look at me they're like oh this guy's an idiot yeah you know but then when you start when I get to know you I get to know you I'm like oh my god he knows so much about so much shit when you you and I had this talk and I thought it was going to be like a one minute talk about hunting and I thought it was going to be like a one minute talk about hunting and and animals, and because you have a ranch in Texas,

that's just unbelievable, which I want to talk about. But, like, when you talk to me, it was so articulate about, like, the bad rap that hunters get and the poachers that are, that you, that you hate and that, there was just a way you said it where it made it, like, you made me understand it in a different, a different perspective. Yeah. It was just, uh, I don't know, I just really enjoyed our talk.

Well, I think, like, for me, like, when I get, I'm passionate about something, I, I love to get into it and learn. about it and see different points of view and yeah it's definitely been something i've i've always been i've always loved animals and so getting into that you know learning about them how they how they react with each other and how they how they live and how the herds work and stuff there has to be some other part to it you know and i think that's kind of then with with me trying to you know obviously the hockey thing made it so i couldn't be in the in the military and be sniper That was like what I wanted to do.

You couldn't do both. Yeah, you couldn't do both. So for me, I've kind of, I still love that part of it. I still love like camping, being outdoors and learning things. And, you know, I've been blessed through hockey to meet a lot of military guys. And so I've always kind of, now it's like the outdoor life. I love that. I love like, you know, with kids now trying to, I don't want to be useless.

I want to be able to learn how to do those things. And, you know, so I started getting into. to the hunting stuff. And, you know, it's just been, for our family, it's been awesome. You know, we don't hunt everything. But for us, when I'm doing it, I'm doing it with my son or my daughter. And I always say, look, if you're going to hunt something, eat it. Yeah, it's, I mean, you do.

Yeah, for me, my daughter was, she wasn't the best eater growing up. You know, she's nine now. And we kind of had issues with her eating. And, you know, then I started hunting with her. three years ago we started kind of became more of a family passion passion we we started doing it together and um you know she still asked me enduring meals now like daddy was this was this this animal that we hunted together and i say yeah this was this one or this one i was with jagger um and uh you know and it's just a special meal every meal is special when when you were out there

you had the family memories of doing it together we make sure we talk about you have to you have to eat your food you have to honor that animal that animal gave up its life for you to get stronger and for you to grow and uh you know it just makes it a special meal special time around the table yeah and for us for our family it's been great what's it like having a ranch i mean that how big is this how big is this ranch it's 400 acres uh we look a lot we call it's always something ranch every something goes wrong every day it's crazy whether it's a water pipe bust in in the middle of nowhere um you know it's just it's crazy it's and you have someone that watches the house the range we have somebody

there uh all the time and uh he's been awesome he's been a huge resource to learn from and you know we joke like i couldn't put a light bulb in three years ago but now i i'm learning a lot how to how to fix different issues and is it like being like almost like a safari like coming out to your place is yeah it is yeah it's like and i mean like a lot of those animals we don't hunt we're we're breeding them we're we're there for you know we're trying to get babies and and uh watch our herds grow And, you know, we sell the babies, all the ranches, too. So, you know, they do the same thing. It's, it's great.

Like, in the mornings, we get up, we have coffee. We've got the zebras walking in the front yard, you know, eating. And they all live natural. It's just, yeah, every day is great. It's different, too. It's a lot of work. You know, we're, some days we'll just go pick up rocks for like eight hours. Picking up rocks?

Oh, it is the worst. Yeah, we breed rocks. When I visit, do I have to... You're getting to work. I better get my neck fixed, Rob. Yeah. He's not going to be helped. No, I'm not going to be much hell.

I might sleep in that morning. We're doing rock adjusting. Yeah, we get up with the sun. We go to bed with the sun. It's awesome. It's great. You know, just every day there's something. And if you don't think there's anything to do, go take a hike and you'll figure it,

I got to clean this tree. This tree fell down. I got to clean this road up. This road's got water damage. And you always see animals. You're always walking near animals. You have to go look for them? Yeah, a little bit.

I mean, sometimes you'll see them. at different places or different times you kind of have you see their patterns they have strong patterns most animals so you kind of get to know what they do and when I mean they're wild though so if they

if they hear you or see you they're usually they're gone so Rob said you I didn't know this you got attacked by a cheetah yeah a couple years ago I wasn't like attacked I just got yeah I got bit by it what do you mean you got bit by a cheetah is this public knowledge does people know this on the internet yeah so it must be true

Yeah, it's got to be true, then, right? I was with a couple teammates, and we did, like, we were at a pretty cool place. I don't want to say where it was, but we were at a pretty cool spot with a couple teammates, and we were doing, like, behind the scenes with animals and stuff, and we were watching. We saw a bunch of different things, like Sloth, we saw a bear cat, which I did not know was a real animal. And it is awesome. A bear cat. Yeah, I thought it was a song. You know the song from Dave Wilcox?

No. Great song. You know that song, Rob? no bear cat yeah bear cat david wilcox great tune all right i grew up listening to that my dad used to listen to that song so i i i just thought it was like i don't know like where the wild things are like i thought it was like a fake animal and so the where we were the guy's like oh you want to see a bear cat i was like oh my god like the song and i was like what is it like a bear cat like what it's a bear cat like what it's a bear cat and a monkey kind of all

put together i've never heard of it it is cool so he brought that out and this thing just like skilled my leg ran up my back and was sitting on my head I was like oh my god you loved it unreal so cool what about the cheetah so then we would go outside and see the cheetahs and uh we're watching them run and it was like unbelievable just the sound that their paws can make when they're going and they're like probably going like you know half as fast as they can and then they bring one out they're like hey we'll bring one of them out that that's good with people and and she usually does like a lot of photo gigs and stuff so I was like sweet they put her on a picnic table and uh and they're like go ahead and the other guys are like oh burns you go first i was like

sweet so they're like put your arm around her and we'll take a picture so i put my arm around her and like a second later she just turns and snaps at me smokes me in the ribs i mean a bite oh yeah like she didn't like rip which it was my saving grace you got lucky yeah just bit me let go they yanked her off the table and they were like oh my god what happened then they're like is that a wool sweater and they kind of like i guess like the one of the wool sweater i was wearing can kind of turn their like predatory instincts on she just kind of went snapped and then she was fine did you bleed i was like kind of like stepping on a nail like there's like four like indents did it hurt yeah it didn't feel very good did you have to get any kind

of uh tetness or some shit the next day i can't remember because it was a while ago now but um that's had to be scared oh yeah i thought i was in one i thought i was what a horrible way to go if that was a way to go that would be pretty cool to be eaten by that cool i don't know that's a pretty good Sorry. If you got to go. If you got to go, that's a pretty good way. To be eaten by a cheetah? I guess you go into shock, right?

Yeah, I don't think you're... I would, yes. I would. I think you probably evacuate yourself, your pants. You evacuate in your pants, for sure. It was so fast that you couldn't even evacuate. Dude. They're fast.

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Download the Rocket Money app and enter my show name inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum in the survey so they know I sent you. Don't wait. Download the Rocket Money app today and tell them you heard about them from my show inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum. Rocket Money. So when you're growing up in Ontario, like, you know, when did you know, when did your family look at you differently? Like, this kid's exceptional. One of the coaches, was there a moment where you thought, they thought, this is different? Well, I think growing up I was usually pretty good hockey player on the teams I would play for.

But there were so many kids that are so good. You know what I mean? And then you go, so you're in your town, then you go to like the major city of Toronto and you're like, wow, there's a lot of really good kids. and then go to Canada, North America, then you go to Europe. You know, there's so many kids. Were you intimidated? No, I don't either.

I wasn't thinking about that. I was just trying to score goals and have fun, you know? Right. That's when I'm, like, younger. I don't think it really hit me until maybe 16. I get drafted to the OHL. Then you're thinking, like, wow, this could be, this could be an opportunity to do something.

Like, at that point still, I wasn't thinking, like, the NHL. That's still the goal. It was my goal since I was, like, two. I've always wanted to play in the NHL. were a big kid. You were like, no, no, so I was really small until I was 16. I was really, really small. So if you didn't grow as much as you did, you never would have made the NHL. No, you never know. I mean, there's a lot of small guys, Patrick Kane. Matt Zugrello. Yeah, Johnny Hockey, small. I mean, he's unbelievable player.

Zucker. You never know. It kind of goes in ebbs and flows, too. The games changed a lot. Yeah. So it's, uh, no, I think it's just, like we talked about dinner a little bit. Like, I think for me, there's so much luck that goes into it. There's so many players. that I played with that were way better than me and, you know, maybe on the right night I had a good night. So you get lucky in that instance and then you get lucky, you know, certain guys get drafted to certain teams. Like, you know, when I was drafted, the Detroit Reddings were

really, really stacked. So if I would have got drafted to Detroit, my whole career trajectory would have been completely different. You know, so I got drafted to Minnesota where they like to bring their young guys in. So I was able to play as a young guy, which just changes your whole trajectory of your whole career so that's a luck thing too i got drafted you know there's 30 teams drafting you can't choose which team are going to be so for me there was that was another blessing going to minnesota and and getting drafted there and getting the ability to play in the league and you know get my feet wet and and learn and so there's so many things that go into it's got to be pretty intimidating your first year in the league oh you're around you're just like i'm going

when are they going to ax me when are they going to get rid of that you're like i don't know if i can survive this like my first game i was so tired of after how many minutes did you play in the first game probably too many not like i probably play like six and now six minutes and you're out of it and now you're averaging what 18 no i didn't know i don't know i think 20 probably more than that yeah 24 i think 24 minutes now it's just different i mean when you're young it's just hard it's just really for me it was i wasn't that i wasn't good like i see some of these young guys coming in now that are just unbelievable and they're so confident and so strong and big and um it's just very different you know it's just a different

game it's different i think the kids are different too you know i say kids but when they come in they are kids they're like 8 19 20 yeah and they come in they're just like so mentally strong and and physically strong and and skilled and uh so mental is just as important as physical oh big time and like skills you have to be you have to have a certain mindset yeah do you think hockey players are the toughest athletes? Oh, I don't know. That's no question. Because most people will say yes.

Now, you know, Rob and I had the flu. Okay? I'll tell you one thing, acting is not a tough profession in terms of like physical. We had the flu and we were out for three days in our bed, chill, not together. It's fine if we were.

But, you know, we couldn't move. You played with the flu temperature, sweating, lost 15 pounds, and you barrel through. Baseball players hurt their freaking thumbnail, and they're out for three months. Oh, it's a sprained flubula or something, or earlobe. I think for me, like athletes, I think we always have like a mutual respect for anybody else. Like if I was to go play baseball and somebody threw fastball at me, I'm evacuating my pants. yeah that's true football that's true

like yeah i watched it uh we went to the 49ers game and i was from the sidelines and i never i'm not like a big football guy i just don't know a lot about it but i could not believe like from tv it's like sometimes you're like oh my god that wide receiver is like wide open why don't you just throw it to that guy

but then from the sidelines you see how big those guys are in front how do you see over them you can't even see right like these guys are unbelievable so it's like i got a respect for those guys and then, you know, MMA, it's like these guys are training. I mean, it's just crazy. Everything. Did you get a lot of fights growing up?

Not really. Because you're a big guy you think people want to pick fights. No, I was small growing up, though. But I'm talking about like even when you were in Minnesota, at that point you're a big guy. No, not really. How much were you when you came? How much did you weigh when you get in the NHL?

I think it was like 175 pounds, maybe my first year. What? 180 pounds. So you've gained 50 more, 75 pounds. last, I think it grew a lot, even my first year or two in the NHL, you know, I was probably 6-3, maybe 175 pounds. Is the conditioning just when you get to the NHL, do they, they're like, they look at you and they're like, this kid needs to gain this much weight, he needs to eat this.

Yeah, yeah, back then it was like you wanted to get as big and strong as you could, so, and we had a great strength trainer there in Minnesota, Kirk Olson, he worked with me a lot in the summers and during the year, and we had a lot of, a lot of older guys at the time that you know I would see them working and I was like oh my god these guys are they are unbelievable athletes like we can play a game maybe in the gym after for another 40 minutes and I was like wow just your work ethic's pretty good right I mean I noticed like I went and I had the luck to you invited me to San Jose and I'm like you said you want to come to San Jose I'm like oh I was like you want to train with the team I'm like what you want to train with the sharks

I'm like uh yeah so I flew up and this was like four years ago and I whatever you did I did I was in your shadow we woke up you had this oatmeal maker that makes oatmeal the night before

so it's ready for the next day You know Zorochi Rice cooker The rice cook whatever Yeah and we like I ate what you ate We even let me wear your shoes And yeah you trained with the sharks

And I did this rope stuff And like it was so And then I skated And you don't like I was an okay hockey player I grew up in Indiana I was fun I used to go to camp in Canada, and I was like, oh, my God, I'm never going to make this.

Like, I had an offer to play, like, a parts, not even a full ride to, like, a university for hockey. And I told my dad, and he's like, Michael, you're decent, but you're not good enough. You're going to start the fourth line. You're going to get the ship beat at you. And then what kind of career? What are you going to do with your life? It was kind of tough love, but he was right. I had back problems.

I was like, I'm not on that level. So when I went on the ice and I'm skating with you guys, Marlowe just barely misses hitting me. he must he's like a wall oh he is uh unbelievable unbelievable athlete um and i thought to myself and you told me you scared the shit out of me he said rose i just want you to know that uh some of these kids they're fighting for a position on the team i'm like yeah it was right before kirk training camp so like guys were like working to get going you know and i'm sitting on the bench cracking jokes and they're not laughing they're like fuck off who are you you know it was unreal i mean everybody he was cool but it was definitely

like it was like a week before camp or something yeah what's the GM the Doug yeah Doug Wilson's up there and watching you can see me and I'm skating I'm like who's a slow guy but it was it was a great time but that's when I really I mean look I already knew because I'm a big hockey fan so I'd watch players and I'd be like oh my god

this level even today the speed and I was on the ice just and I was like I don't belong here I mean to watch like Connor McDavid skate it's unbelievable I love like like different events you know you can get to see it like it is crazy or like you see Patrick Kane stick hand wing him those guys are so so good do you have a favorite do you

have a favorite in the NHO is it hard to be in the NHL like I'm an actor I could say oh my favorite actor is Gary Oldman yeah you have a player that you're like I mean there's a lot of guys like you know you get to play with a lot of different guys and you know sit I think is just unbelievable what he's done and you know Ovechkin his shot and uh just a pure goal score and how well he's done and uh Connor McDavid I mean there's so many guys there's so many guys I'm blessed to play with still knock him into the boards and do a hip check oh yeah you're after they're not even think twice about hurting these people well not intentionally no you just with a clean hit burns he yeah you got to play them hard but I mean

I'm blessed to play with Jumbo Joe every day you know to see this guy is just man of the best ever play the game one of the best human beings on earth and just such an amazing athlete athlete and work ethic. Did you learn a lot from him? Yeah, he's been huge for him. Both those guys, I would sit with Patty on the plane and talk with him a lot. And just an unbelievable guy. And, you know, the way those guys see the game, they just change so much for me and with a mindset.

And it really helped me. So it's more about, like, grounding you because you're like this young kid in the league. Well, it's just about like. Now you're not. I mean, yeah, now it's just like, I think they just really helped, you know, the way in the, the way they think about the game and, you know, working and it never stopping, always trying to get better, always trying to take the next step. And if things are going well, then you've got to work harder to keep it there. And if they're not going well, then you've got to work out

of it. And, you know, there's a reason why both those guys are just climbing every statistical record right now. I mean, games play. Just to play that many games is incredible. How many games is Thornton played? He's at like 15. I think he just played 1551. like crazy yeah you know and he's just and he's playing some of the best hockey right now i mean he's uh he's been unbelievable for us the last 30 games here i mean he's just been he's just dominant still it's crazy are there players that you definitely don't like and you're there are there are sure there's definitely players like you you probably won't mention them yeah or maybe you will now if i said finuf is that the right name

Phenough? Phenough? No, no, I played with him. He's a good guy. You like him? Yeah, you good. Because I heard he has sometimes a little bad, you know, some people have a little... No, he's, I played with him.

He's a good dude? I played World Juniors with him. You liked him? Yeah, he's a really good guy. He's a tough guy. Yeah, great player. P.K. Suban? Yeah, I think he's unbelievable.

I think, you know, the things that he's done on and off the ice, I think both, I think he's really helped hockey and getting it into more of the mainstream. And, I mean, the things that he's done is, it's great for the sport. Do you ever Can you ever not wait to get on the ice And say I just can't wait To fucking lay him into the boards There's a guy

I mean for There's got to be some players For me I mean for me My game is not really doing that You know I just try to I'm more worried about Getting my own shit together

And getting going Right I don't think we really think about That as much about like Oh I get to like Worry about that guy You're worried about Well people frustrate you I'm sure

No, I'm out there just having fun. I like looking around. You have a good time every game. Yeah, I'm looking around. You go out there, like, every day is like you're excited to play. Yeah, you got to just, I'm enjoying it. I think that was one of the biggest things I've learned from, from Jumbo, too. It's just you're going to enjoy it, you know?

You get to enjoy the work. You got to embrace the suck. What about the guys on the bench? Is there any guys, have you ever been with any guys who were just like always saying, you know, did they ever give each other a hard time where it's like, you know, in club or a beer league hockey people were like dude pass the fucking puck oh it's always always yeah yeah you're always do that even in the NHL oh yeah pass the puck I was right behind you we could have every shift yeah it's always that everybody chirps yeah I wouldn't say it's like in a chirping way

but it's like saying like you know obviously we have systems and stuff but the game is still very reactive and it's still different every shift so even if you have a face off and you say you know we're going to do this most of the time they're going to do this it's still going to be a little different so you might see something a play different and have a guy to your left that is wide open but you're not expecting it and you don't see it so we're going to come to the bench say like like fuck did you did you see me there and i'm like no sorry am i i didn't even look you know you want to know that you want to see where guys are right especially when it's like a new new guy maybe because everybody's got different tendencies and stuff and you start to learn that's like where the chemistry

comes in and has to be developed you know you start to develop oh this guy usually kind of goes to maybe the weak side of the net or the strong side of the net like you learn each other you learn each other you learn like you know if if this guy's getting put in a bad situation he's going to go to this spot or he if he's getting jumped on by another guy he's going to put the puck in this spot so I should be going there already right there's so many little things that you have to like develop with somebody to learn it's almost like a relationship right you kind of got to know it's like hey they're going to wake up and piss every four hours You just got to deal with it.

You've got to know. Same thing. Terrible analogy. Hey. Oh. Yeah. He's going to get fortunate. He's going to piss his pants every four minutes.

Is this the best Sharks team that you've been on, assembled? Do you think this is the strongest? I honestly try not to, like, think about that stuff. I think, like, right now we're in the, we're coming close to the end. We've got, like, 10 games left or eight games left, something like that. You know, you're, you've been in this long grind this whole year, and, you know, you're pushing to get to the playoffs and, you know, it's just, I try not to, like, think about where we're playing two days, three days.

You're still humble. I'd be so neurotic. I think that's what's helped me as I've gotten older now is just kind of like, all those things are just going to, it's going to happen anyways. You're going to play that team in five days or three days. I try not to even know who we're playing. Is that true? Yeah, yeah.

You don't want to face the teams, like, will face it. No, for me, I really don't care. I don't care who we face. Because what's it going to do? Like, if I'm like, if it makes me more nervous or something, it's not going to help me. There's got to be some truth to some players, if you ask some players, that they're going to be really honest. Look, I understand, like, even if there is a team that you don't want, like, I'm asking you, Bernsey, you might afterwards say, yeah, there's a team that I'd rather not play. No, for me, honestly, you don't want them to know that you are worried about that.

And that's the psychology of it. I think, honestly, for most players, it's like more, they don't like going to certain places. Because of the setup. Like the New York Islanders, their ice sucks? No, like, I mean, different cities have different setups. Like, I'm pretty routine to my game days. So, like, I like to be close to the rink. So if I'm close to the rink, I'm going to like it.

Like right now, you're close to the rink. I'm close to the rink. We're right in your staple center. I like it. Right. You know, where, like, certain cities, it's a long drive. The garden? You're close to the garden.

Well, we don't stay close to the garden. You don't? No, we stay far. But that's a great place to go. It's a great energy. it's like special building you know Connor McGregor the double champ there

that was a big night there no no but I watched it I mean that that like the garden it's just the history there you can actually feel it when you're walking in there it's crazy can you feel that in Edmonton I love playing in Canadian cities I think it's pretty special like you get that old history there

they get the new building which is unbelievable so it's kind of cool to walk into there but you said I remember how like you were so in all, like when you played in Vegas for the first time, I think you just said the noise, it was so loud. It was so loud. They do a great

job with, uh, entertainment. Like the game ops and everything. It's, yeah, it's definitely, it's like, it's Vegas. I mean, it's like a show. It's, they've done medieval times. Have you been there? I've seen their like pregame. Yeah, they do a great pregame. I mean, the warm up music is loud. It's like a concert.

Right. It's just fun. I think you know, we did our dad strip there. this year, and I was saying to my dad, I was like, you're going to love this place. He loved it. Oh, they got, like, he's a drummer, so he, they had, they have the drum line. And he's like, holy shit, this is unbelievable. You know, it's like, they do a great job there with the game ops. Oh, yeah, it's great energy.

For me, it's like, you go to a road city and then if they're crazy crowd, I'm still feeling an energy. So it's good for me. Like, that's not like, even if they're booing me, it doesn't matter. Or if they're booing our team. or if they're booed like when people boo you i don't really notice it it's just energy you know it's like yeah it's like you know it's not like it wouldn't be booing me it'd be like more booing our team you know and if they're booing the team it's like it's just energy you know so it's like it's fun

and the energy's good you played the penguins what a couple years ago you went to the finals yeah lost of penguins and game seven right no six six yeah how hard is that because your season i mean obviously it's a stupid question but you know i think about the season the has such a long. It's really weird question. It's actually not stupid question because it's crushing to lose. But it was such an

unbelievable experience to go that far and to go four rounds in the playoffs. I'd never done that. Does it make you want it more? I mean, I've wanted it since like two or three. So it's like, I don't know if you want it more. So it was like, yes,

you're crushed. You're like, you didn't win it and you were all the way there and it was like, that's fucking awful. crushing but it was like such a good experience to go through that we had such a fun time it was a magical like three rounds and obviously the fourth round wasn't it wasn't it was tough but um so there's still like that was awesome to play four rounds and go to the finals you get that experience it was like it was so awesome you know our team was great with they brought our families in uh so you're getting to share that with your

family but yes at the end of the day you lose so it sucks balls you know and not only that but people don't know this but the n-hill hockey season starts in the what October yeah well we start camp like September early September right so you go from September and if you're in the NHL Stanley Cup finals you're going to the mid-June yeah it's just I don't know that is a grind yeah it's awesome is your body just just beaten down look what do you do to decompress after season's over I go to the ranch yeah I go I eat Do you get fat? I used to when I was younger.

Everyone used to come in Humpty Dumpty. Yeah? Let me ask you. Do you, after you... I can't know. I'm getting too old. I gotta keep it tighter. You got to keep it at least like...

But I'm sure you let loose. Like, hey, for two weeks, I'm not going to do anything. No, not two weeks. I let loose. I mean, you're loose. I'm like, I love Waterburger. So I get some water burgers every once in a lot.

I like some barbecue. I mean, I like that. I like, yeah, for sure. I think I'll let loose. but I started training pretty quick after that. It's just easier to keep it relatively close. It's too much work. Yeah.

You know, I see it like I hear a lot of sad stories and like I know the NHL does things for like players who have played in the NHL and you always hear like stories of like hockey players or athletes that had long careers, successful careers, and then their careers are over and then they don't really know what to do. But to me, I look at you and I'm like, you got this family, you got this beautiful ranch. I mean, do you think when hockey's over in X amount of years, you'll be like, I just still got to be around the guys. I still got to be some, I got to be in management. I got to be, or will you be like, hey, I'm good. I want to go to the ranch. I want to explore

the world. I don't want to have anything to do with hockey. I've done it. Or do you think, is that a tough question? No, I think for me, like, I love hockey. I love being around it. I'll always play it. I'll probably play beer league for sure, you know, to be around the game. And I don't know. Maybe my son's playing hockey too, so I'll maybe remember. around the game a bit do you want him to play hockey I don't really care what it would if he wants to play does he love it he likes it yeah he plays hockey now yeah so it's uh you brought him out there for the all-star game yeah yeah he's wheel around no I think I think it's important for them to develop because I always say like when parents ask me about like oh

you know I think my my son or daughter has a really good chance to to play in college or whatever get a scholarship and they're really good like what kind of advice would you It's like, I don't know, for me, it's, it's, every day is so hard that you have to love it. And if you do love it, it's awesome. You love the work. You got to love what you do no matter what you do. Yeah, so you've got to like, say, say my son was really, really good at hockey, but he didn't love it. And what's the point?

Yeah. Because he's not going to, he's not going to do the work that he has to. There's no sense. I'm pushing your kid to do something. Yeah, so you have to, like, let his passion develop into whatever it is. You know, I think, I put my kids in. a martial art I make them play a musical instrument and then they can do a sport you know that's I think that's for me I grew growing up like I had no music talent I always loved I love music and I always wish

I could play an instrument so I think it's you know just a good opportunity for them to be around it and then I think martial arts is great for their confidence for their you play guitar I do now but I suck how many chords do you know I don't even know do you play Alabama I can I don't know I think it's like three chords right John Denver A little Take me home Country Road

I do love that song Isn't that great But see I need the cords What do you call in the sheets? Sheet music Yeah Not the sheet but like the courts The chords

Yeah you can go to like Guitar Chords.com You can pretty much type in any song And it comes up in a minute We got a jam You gotta come over the house I know you get to send you My new left on Laura album

When it comes out I know it's coming out Yeah I think you'll dig it I've been hearing the tunes It's fun have you Yeah All right I like that Are you tired?

Are you tired right now? It's been 50 minutes. I got 10 more minutes on the Norma Tech. You got 10 more minutes? So you're good for 10 more minutes? I go for an hour in this thing. So you're good. You got 10 minutes?

Yeah. All right, you hear that, Rob. Now, Rob loves hockey. He's a big Chicago Blackhawks fan. How do you like playing in Chicago? For my first couple years, I did not like it. Why? It was kind of like a, I don't know, always like a nightmare building for me.

It was always weird stuff would happen. They had a great team. And it was just always hard. But now I love that city. It was fun, I think, you know. Stadium's in a weird spot, too. See, I don't know the city well enough, because we always kind of stay out by,

is this Sixth Ave? Yeah, yeah. Sixthavs is like the big street. Yeah, that's where we stay. So that's another one that's, it is a far drive. That's what I don't really like. I think that kind of messes

with my routine a little bit, but I do love playing there now. It's such a good, like, I think they do one of the best national anthems in the league. Jim Cornelison? Is that what is that? Yeah, unbelievable.

Really? They pump this place, and they're all clapping through the anthem. Yeah, the crowd goes nuts during the entire anthem, you know that. You need to watch it. All right. And if you get the chance to go to a game, you've got to go to a game. It's unbelievable. He is one of the best, I think.

How did you lose your teeth? The day, or like, well, I don't know, one to three days after I got my braces off, I was playing tier two junior hockey. And at practice, one of the guys tried to lift my stick, missed my. my stick, knocked my front jib out, and I came home and I thought my mom was going to knock the other one out. She was so mad at me because I just got my braces on. It wasn't your fault? She don't care. Blood everywhere. Still to this day, she's still hungry. I mean, it didn't feel great probably. I don't know. It was a long time ago. Now, you used to wear

like, you never see you. You never see you without your teeth are always out. Yeah. You always have the gap the trademark you sent me a bunch which i really love they have them in my house they're the bobblehead you sent me burnsy bobbleheads i've got like i have one of you in thornton i've got like i got like five of them in my house yeah i jerk off to them no i know i know but um i love them one has real hair i don't know what kind of hair they is you know what our team has got like some unbelievable giveaways even this year they've done some really good ones did you ever think that you'd be such a like the beard the teeth it's like this lovable character that every fan loves.

I mean, did you, did you in your head, like, I want to create something different? I want to look different. I want to be different. Is that just who you are? The beard, the beard kind of started because my dad when I was growing up, all the pictures I have of me as like a baby with him. Had a beard. He had a big beard. And I never could grow a dad. You wanted a beard. Yeah, I could never grow a beard. And that's kind of how it started

was like he always had a big beer. So then I just once I was able to grow a beard at like 28, 27, took me a long time. I mean, you're a good looking, dude when you, especially when you shave your, I mean, when you shave your beard. You know, I mean, you look at you now, but I think girls, you know, you're married. Susan's unbelievable. I've slept at your house, not with her.

But I slept in the guest room. But like, you know, it's like. Yeah, man, right? She has a sister, but she's married too. So those get knocked out. Now, you don't wear that. Do you, can you put your teeth in? No, I had a flipper.

And actually, I was in L.A. It's a flipper. It's like the little thing with the teeth, like a little retainer of the teeth. Right. You had that because I remember. You lost it in a trash can in Vegas once. Yeah, I lost it there once. You picked that up.

We won't get into that story. But I remember he used to carry it around. And then I heard, for some reason, you just don't wear it. Yeah, actually, my agent Ronnie here was, he was in L.A. in the hotel. And he came out wearing him out of the bathroom. He did. Yeah. Waring them in his mouth?

Yeah, I don't know. It wasn't actually. That's why I've been able to wear them since. You fucking burn those. You won't say how he was wearing them. But you will use your imagination. Torch in my life. Ronnie, you son of a bitch.

But you've been with him for how many years now? Yeah, it's been a long time. 14 years. You're a loyal dude. I'll tell you that. It's like, you know, I just feel like, you know, you are just one of those guys. We just had dinner and all the trainers are sitting there and you're just, you're talking with them.

And you can just tell they like you. You know, there's guys like I hang out with. And when they talk to people, like, you tell the people they work for, the person works for it. They don't really love them that much. They're like, oh, they're being nice because he's the boss. But you're, like, you know, one of the main big players on the team. I know it's a team, and it's all about that.

But you can just tell that you're just one of the guys. We've got a great culture here, I think, like, since day one, I've come here, it's been a special place. You know, I think, yeah, from all the way from the top, like, you know, getting traded here. You know, Doug's really believed in me ever since day one. And that's been huge. and then just the culture of the players, you know, Jumbo and Patty and Pavalski, Cature, all these guys, they create such a great culture to come to, we call it, well, we come to work, you know, but it's going to the rink.

It's just a great day. We work hard, but it's fun. And, yeah, we have, it's a good time. It's just, it's great. Do you think I'll ever get invited again to play hockey with you guys? Oh, you've got an open invite. Is that true? Oh, yeah, anytime.

So maybe next year I can come out for a day and skate? Yeah. pre-training camp pre-training camp anytime dude that was like you're all banged up now you gotta be careful than that I'm gonna fix my name

I'm gonna play hockey again look I'm just I'm a little broken yeah but there's nothing wrong with that you come back dude this has been a real treat thanks for having me isn't this fun or is it better than you thought

because you were a little nervous like I'm boring you know you interview comedians and actors yeah we're gonna have to do like some yeah you just these are nerve wracking you never know what you're gonna say yeah but like it's fun

like we had some fun yeah right it's great yeah i love this rob you have anything you want to say to bernsey i mean usually he's talking more he was pretty quiet this one that's true he listens to him you know it wasn't easy getting you because you're like you're like in your focus you have all these games you play tomorrow i was like oh you know you're all these time i was like no no it's just not easy i thought you're going to cancel today i was like you know i understand i only want to do this so i got green skittles and you never came through

fucking green skittles you should tell me he wasn't yeah you know you still come out to L.A. You haven't been to my house. I know. You got to come out of the house. We've got a karaoke together. Yeah, I don't know if you don't want to hear me sing, but I do it. I'm coming to the ranch this summer. Yeah. For sure. We'd love to have you. You'd show me around. What about the Norris Trophy this year? I don't really think about it, really.

You don't really think about it. I think you do probably think about it. I mean, but there's nothing you can do about it. It's like you play your best, and if you get an award, great. I, like, honestly, you're in the grind right now. We lost the last three now. You're just trying to get your your shit together, you know? You're trying to get your game into a good place to be ready for the playoffs, you know? Do you think it's very important, like,

do you feel like a lot of teams like they get too complacent to like, hey, we're already in, we're already this, and that could lose their inertia. I don't know what it is. It's like, it's like natural momentum in sports. It's like when you're watching a sport,

you're like, why doesn't that other team just like stop doing that or stop the other team? It's just natural. I don't know. It's just, yeah, it's hard. I think, you know, at this time of the year, the teams that are out of the playoffs become looser,

and they usually always win a lot of games. It's crazy because it's the pressure that is gone, and they just play better. Yeah, I also feel like if you have nothing to lose sometimes. Yeah, you can play. If you're like the eighth seed or if you're like, you're like, hey, let's just fucking play. When you're at one seed, you, like,

it's got to be so hard for Washington every year until finally they won it last year because they were always considered like, oh, they're going to blow it again. They're going to blow it again. And that has to get in your mind, in your head. It's like when a team is down, they're losing the game,

but in the third period they always pour it on because they're just forcing it. And then it's really difficult to defend against that. The other team is like, it's just natural. It happens all the time. You know, that's why they always talk about, you know, we can't stay back. In the third to defend,

like we've got to keep trying to push because once another team, is able to just kind of start throwing it on it's it's hard to get it back so momentum is as big so at the end of the year i don't know you just kind of you're trying to make sure your game's in a good place you're trying to make sure the team's game is a good place kind of get all your special teams together and uh get everything kind of rolling and um but you're still playing every other day so it's still like don't you want to apply i'm just kidding this has been great bernsie i love you thanks for taking the time man it's always a pleasure hanging out with you ronnie over there

You owe him a retainer or that flib. What's it called? A retainer and dinner. What's that called again? The flipper. The flipper? You owe him a flipper and dinner. A flipper and dinner.

We've got to get a cell phone. We've got to get that thing activated. I think we do. Bernerzy, thanks for allowing me to be inside of you today, man. Thanks for having me. It was awesome, guys. Awesome, man. Football season is here.

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