Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - BRIAN AUSTIN GREEN: Beverly Hills 90210 Burnout, Teen Idol Pressure & Finding Himself Again

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

Brian Austin Green (Beverly Hills 90210, Smallville, The Masked Singer) joins us this week for a candid and funny conversation about early fame, learning boundaries, and finding peace through growth. Brian talks about his wild 90210 years, the pressure of sudden fame, and how therapy, fatherhood, and self-awareness have shaped him into who he is today. We get into people-pleasing, money, co-parenting with Megan Fox, and the painful losses of Luke Perry and Shannen Doherty. Brian also shares his evolution as a person, his lessons in kindness, and what it means to live deliberately in his fifties. Thank you to our sponsors: 🥗 Prolon: ⁠https://prolonlife.com/inside 🚀 Rocket Money: https://rocketmoney.com/inside ❤️ This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/inside and get on your way to being your best self __________________________________________________ 💖 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/insideofyou 👕 Inside Of You Merch: https://store.insideofyoupodcast.com/ __________________________________________________ Watch or listen to more episodes! 📺 https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/show __________________________________________________ Follow us online! 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🤣 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@insideofyou_podcast 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/insideofyoupod 🌐 Website: https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Thanks for joining me. Thank you, Ryan, for being here. Thank you for having me. Yeah, always. Always good to see Ryan. Brightens my day. Hey, you know, thanks for supporting the podcast.

And it's getting to the holidays, man. I'm already seeing those Christmas commercials on. And I'm like, come on, man. It's early November, dude. It's a trip when you see the, the Santa stuff like next to the Halloween candy.

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and um what else can i say that's really about it i mean a lot of a lot of good stuff coming on but uh you know i think we should just today let's just get into it let's just oh i want to thank the patrons patron if you want to join patreon patreon patreon.com slash inside of you uh you're the reason why this show exists uh it keeps going because of you and we could use all the support we can get so if you want to help out please go to patreon.com slash inside of you and let's get in i love talking to this guy i really didn't know him well i met him at a smallville con and love him i think he's such a sweet man sweet man uh let's get inside of brian austin green it's my point of you you're listening to inside of you with michael

Rosenbaum Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience Ooh They called me Ryan Dude I love when Starbucks people rename me He's Ryan They always called me Brian at Starbucks

There you go With a Y or an I Are you an I or a Y? Why? I know Bastard. You're an I fucking wise dude you've been doing this for so long and you're not that old you're probably younger than me

well no i'm 53 i'm 52 yeah so you're younger sure i mean you've been you've been through it all i have been through it all do you think that you have when someone says you've been through it you've been through the ups the downs and all arounds um i think in life i have been like i don't my career's insane. SAG, the business, you know, it's changed so much over the last 40 years. Yeah. Or four years.

Or four years. I know. Dude, now we have this AI star. I was reading about it in variety. Like, we're trying to buy this AI star. Yeah. We're competing with AI stars. I refuse. I refuse.

Well, you don't have to, refuse i will i will be i will be detailing cars out front of your house if it comes down to at least you know it's your work it's true you know yeah are you afraid of it no no so i'm not i i've talked to people about a i before and the thing that i know guaranteed with ai is that it learns so it has to have learned from things that have already existed it doesn't think ahead of that so it can can it can recreate a performance that Christopher Walken gave in something, but it can't create what his next performance would be. It could only guess. It can only guess. And then otherwise, it just learns what it's been fed. Right. But that's just now. I mean, look how advanced we

are in the last few years. People are in AI. I'm like, you can't tell the difference a lot of times. Right. I'm not so worried about it. I just, I'm not worried for, I think our jobs will be the last ones to go. I think all the blue collar jobs, assembly jobs, like the real hands-on workers, that will be eventually. I think that I think unfortunately that'll be the first to go. You grew up in L.A. I grew up right down the street. I grew up in North Hollywood. My parents are still in the same house. Parents are still with us. They're still in the same house that I was born and raised in. It must be worth a shitload now. It's done pretty well. They bought it for 35 thousand thirty five thousand dollars in nineteen seventy two and it's probably worth three and a half

no not quite but it's pretty close to two at this point it's in valley village so it's right it's like a half a block away from the small side of the does it look like the same house no my mom is they've updated that's kind of her thing like to update stuff yeah she stopped working a long time ago especially once i started working because she was my business manager she took care of everything well they always say don't ever have your family member manage your money they do but my parents were great my mom was fantastic she saved my money really well she invested it really well and then at the point when uh 90210 was coming to an end i was like i kind of need like professional people now to do this yeah i can't you know was she hurt she was she was hurt my dad was hurt um i think i think though

beyond all of it, they were worried. They were just worried that I was going to hire some knucklehead that was going to take everything. Did you? No, I didn't. I still have the same manager. Yeah, I've had the same business manager for 25 years and I hear horror stories. But I remind him of those horror stories every year. I'm like, I'm glad you're... For Christmas. You know, I kind of do the Jedi mind trick. I'm like, I'm glad you're such an honest, totally. Great guy. Unlike Billy Joel's brother-in-law and like all these horror stories you say, like, did you have a pretty good good normal childhood. I mean, as normal as you could have being, you know, growing up in, you know, Hollywood, California. I did. My dad's a drummer. So I was going to all like performing

art schools for music. I had nobody in my family that was in the business at all. Wow. Yeah. So it was great. So it was very like I, I just had no sense of it at all. It was a very normal childhood. I grew up skateboarding everywhere, riding the bus to school. Um, we were a very, we were a very middle class family, but my dad gave his money away like we were lower class. So everything is like, yeah, it was like, okay, we've got it, but here's 250. And you have to explain to me how this 250 is going to better your future, you know, I was like, it's $2.50. Like, I just want a cookie and some stuff. So you learn the value of money. I learned. Well, did you?

No, I learned the scary side of having money of, like, being afraid to spend it in any way. So it was, like, frugal to the 10th power. Like, it was past that's cheap. Exactly. So cheap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And my dad love him, love him to death. But he's a cheap individual.

He still is. He's a cheap individual, except for things that he loves. If it's like golf or whatever, or like drums, he'll buy the best, coolest stuff. Everything else is like, you know, oh, Costco's got T-shirts that they're selling for, you know, oh, the gas, there's great. I bet he was really uncomfortable underwear. He, I think he has the same underwear from 1972 when he bought the house. Same stains, probably. Same fit. Same fit.

Because you know, they're not buying. good Chlorox bleach. My dad still has clothes that I've seen him in for years. And he's at that point where he's like, no, it's really comfortable. Like it really fits me well. I really like it. And so he just sticks with it. Compared to like seasonally, you change and you grow. You know. And then you kind of, you'll have some of those pieces in your closet that are good that you hang on to because they remind you of amazing things. He just keeps all of it. You know, don't you feel like we're kind of becoming our parents in ways. No. Because I like wearing sweats and a sweatshirt man. That's fine. You're a t-shirt and sweats. I am. I'm a t-shirt guy. Will that change in five

years? No. I, no, I'll always be a t-shirt and sweats guy. Yes. But the t-shirt and sweats will change. I'll get a new t-shirt and new sweats. Oh, yes. I see what you're saying. Yes, I'm like that too. I won't wear the same thing every day. I have like six pairs of these UCLA sweats. So I think that's what separates someone that just ages and then someone that is aging just kind of along with society is like I'm always very aware of the new stuff, the new technology, the new things. And so I always try and follow it. The new fit, the new cut of things, the new. Right. Because sweats are a different look now. They are. They used to be really baggy and open and kind of like. I had tons of like the bell bottom pants. Like I remember I used to cut.

like at the seam, so they open, and they would cover over shoes. And now it's all about, like, show your shoes. Yeah. And I'm like, wait, so I have to care about my shoes. Yeah. So now it's a whole, it's just I'm constantly learning and evolving. The sweatpants that I think originated, it seems like in Asia, like the sweatpants that are kind of tapered and tight, they kind of like the bad.

They're like the Bruce Lees. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I, it reminds me of it. I think, so that's not racist or anything, but that's like, I think it was influenced. But I'm starting to do that a little bit. with my sweats. So I was influenced. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think being influenced is racist at all. No. I just wanted to preface in case

anybody want to dig in there. I've been influenced by a ton of people. Who influences you? Dr. Dre? Good. No. Well, sure. In music. Right. But I think I'm the most influenced by people that are good human beings I was lucky enough to meet Bono one time I've met Tom Hanks before like there are those people that you meet and you go okay

this is it's possible to be as famous as they are yeah and still be a good person it's a lot easier to be kind it's way easier to be kind I say that to people all the time yeah it takes so and I hate the word I'm not a fan of the word nice.

I don't want to say hate because I hate the word hate. Right. But I'm not a fan of the word nice because I feel like nice can be, that's a mask, the UK, that's a facade. Nice could be just a moment in time. If you're going to go around people, yeah, be nice at this event because they're, kind is innate. Kind is like I wake up in the morning and I think about everything I can do that's kind

to everyone around me and just to myself. And it is an all, all around way. of thinking and acting and feeling so you get that from your parents i got my parents made me very aware of how i was perceived um they were like morally they were great but they i i i remember later on in life i really had to work on not being such a uh people pleaser yeah i i've dealt with that my whole life because it's hard i like i would go And my first response then would be like, oh my God, what did they think of me?

And but, you know, was I, was I nice to him? And, like, I was just. They do a good job. And I would completely put my, you know, well, I was totally inconvenience, but it didn't matter because so-and-so really liked me. And so they want to bring me back and, you know. And, oh, I'll do this job for no money

because then hopefully it'll lead to money on the next job. Like, so I put myself well, well below second. I was like probably seventh in the lineup of importance. Yeah. And once you get in that routine, of giving in, you start doing it, and you're like, I'm doing it. And then you get upset with yourself because it's like, I'm doing another free thing or I'm doing another helping someone or I'm doing this. And it's, that's not about being kind. That's also about compartmentalizing.

That's about differentiating what's important and what's not. And also, we're all, you know, what's the word? Like, we're, to be relevant, you know, and it's not like relevance is that important. But in this industry, you know, if you start doing. doing this and this and this oh he that's what he does right you know you're kind of labeled yeah it's a little different with um stuff today where you can do tv movies and all this stuff and not worry about it and you can be a host and you could do and people are like you know it's more of a commodity right you know he's got a big following people like him he's good you know it's not as but like you have to sort of like i just got a email from someone and goes hey i know i haven't talked to you

in 15 years but um can you do me a favor yeah You know, yeah, they wanted something from me and I, and I just, you know, I just didn't respond because it's like, I thought to myself, I sat there. I took the time and go, am I being mean by not responding? No, I don't know this person. I just met this person once and they're contacting me 15 years later for something. I don't even want to engage in a conversation. It's not worth my time right now. So I just don't do that. So does that make me an unkind person or does that make me just, you know? I think it's um what if you're both like you're an asshole no I think you're learning you're not going to email the guy back I think it's that you kind of you are you're changing these habits I'm aware of it you're aware of it so it's you know the pendulum tends to when anything happens when me too first started but like the pendulum swings from one extreme to the other right and then eventually it kind of settles into a middle ground right I just now feel like I'm finally getting into a middle ground where I feel okay. saying to people that contact me and they're like, you know, wanting to borrow money and being able to say to them, listen, I made a choice in my life of I'm not going to lend money to anyone anymore. Nothing against you. I love you. I'll help you in any other way that I can. You know me, but this doesn't work for either of us. This is not something I do anymore. And it's very cut and dry and I cut it at that. So then that person doesn't come back to me. They know what my

policy is they know whether i'm an open door that way or not and then they can kind of work their own life around that that's not it that's not me being unkind to somebody it's not protecting yourself yeah it's not like it's i used to get stuck in this trap of i was so worried that i wasn't being um considerate that i that i wasn't really thinking of other people enough that i would think of them way more than I would think of myself. Yeah. And then I would end up kicking myself after I would loan somebody money and then realize like they're not going to pay me back.

And it's ruin your friendship with them. It's ruined my friendship. Plus it's ruined my head because then I start beating myself up. Like why did I do like I could have used that. You feel like an idiot. You feel stupid. You know, one of my friends had one of his friends come up to him and ask him for money. And he just said, I will give you this money.

But this will change our friendship. because you're always going to look at me like, oh, he gave me money. It feels like I owe him, I, you know, this. And, you know, I'm going to be thinking, you know, I lend him this money. I gave him this money. It changes the dynamic when money gets involved. And that happens with family and friends. So I've had to finally, it took me long enough to just say, I'm not, I'm not giving

anybody money. It changes the dynamic morally. You're creating something that doesn't have to happen. Like, I'm very good at. like choosing my charities and people who want to help themselves and give them a chance. I feel good when I, it's with certain charities like food on foot for homeless people, helping them get jobs and helping them get a home and live a better life and their desire to want a better life and, you know, all these different things. That's, that's different. I'm like,

happy. I don't want, I don't want anything in return. Yeah. I want to enable as many people as I can to have a better life with that with these incredible opportunities that I've been given and this insane platform that I still don't understand how I have it or why but my God I can do a lot with it. Yeah. Isn't that something? But it's that it's that difference between teaching someone how to fish and then just giving them fish when they need it. Yeah. It's I'll teach them all day long. I'll teach anybody all day long. I enjoy doing it. Yeah. I love it. Like I think it's something something I can offer. Sure.

You know? No, absolutely. Aside from like, oh, he was really funny on that thing. Yeah. Oh, he was, that was such a good scene. So, you know, that is like, that's such a fleeting moment to. Do you remember the moment in your life where you couldn't even walk on the streets? Did you ever get to that level where it's like people were noticing you so much that it became like, holy shit, this is something I dreamed about or didn't ever expect.

But like, oh, it happened. Do you remember that moment? I honestly, 90210 was that. I mean, I had been, I started acting. I joined SAG when I was nine. How did that happen? Did your mom have an idea? No, no.

So I was going to these music academies, like I was telling you about. And one of the schools that I went to was on the USC campus. And so student directors from USC used to come to our campus to pick kids for their kind of like these graduate projects that they were doing. So I did like three or four of those And I was like oh this is really cool It was just like it only took a weekend But it was really fun

It was something completely new I'd never experienced And a kid that I rode The bus with to school Had an agent And was doing commercials And things like that And he always had toys

You always had like all the little The newest handheld games and stuff And I was like Were you rich? Like how do you have all of this stuff? He was like oh no I do commercials And then my parents let me keep you know, a certain amount of the money that I make.

And I was like, that's awesome. Because again, I had a dad who was very frugal. Right. So it was like, okay, if I wanted a toy, I had to tell him how it was going to better my future, how I was going to use it. Jesus. Yeah, it was a whole. I need Skeletor. Right.

I need the castle because it's going to show me. It's going to show me what I don't want in life. Yeah. I remember very specifically, I wanted, there was a puppet of, um, Animal, the drummer from the Muppets. Oh, yeah, bro. And I wanted that. And my dad was like, let's hear it.

Like, oh, boy, you know, how is this going to be? I had to come up with the whole story. And it wasn't a good one. I ended up getting the puppet, but like, I had to beg for it for weeks. All right. So you kept going to this music camp. So I was going to the music school. I ended up meeting.

I went home and I told my parents. I was like, hey, I want to, I think I want to act. And they were like, okay, well, you weren't to play. the ukulele yesterday like you know if in six months you still want to do this then we'll talk about it and six months later i still wanted to do it i was doing um i'd done a little bit of like theater at school i was really having fun doing it so i went and i met with his agent uh the kid that i rode the bus with and they ended up signing me for uh commercial and theatrical and i didn't book anything for a year. Nothing. Like, I would go three auditions a day. The business was so different back

then. Like, now it's all self-tape and everybody's doing it. This was- You had to- all around town. I had to drive around town. Beverly Hills. And my mom was doing it. So she would have to pick me up from school, USC campus. I was living in North Hollywood. So she would drive all the way downtown, pick me up at two o'clock, drive me to three different auditions. I'd book nothing. And- Was she ever like, you know, have you? you thought about maybe stopping never never never and you never thought of stopping either i didn't i didn't um the word no didn't affect me on a i didn't feel like i was not booking something or missing out on something i felt like oh this is something extra that i want to do yeah so i'm just

going to keep going to these things until all of a sudden i get to do one of these and i booked a commercial for um it was a bank commercial and i had some crazy light bulb moment and understood like oh this is what they want they're high they're actually hiring people like i was on set and i was working and i realized like oh they're paying me to do these specific things that they need and as soon as i had that light bulb moment everything changed and i booked everything that i went in for i did over 75 commercials when I was a kid. Wow. What was the biggest commercial?

Oh my God. I did corn pops and Cocoa Krispies and Nintendo. I did all sorts of making money as a kid. And they were all national commercials. So your mom was handling your money. By the time 90210 started and they picked us up for the first half of the first season, I bought my first house with money just from the commercials and stuff. that I'd done.

Everybody else was living in apartments and condos and they were all older than me. I was the youngest one on the show and I owned a home in Burbank. You never would have thought looking at the show. I bought it when I was 17. That was the one who's got the money right now. Right. That's the, that's the one that's doing so well.

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Follow and listen on your favorite platform. did you want to know two two not a lot were you confident with both of them i um i yeah i that was a time you were were you working in the in the in the late 80s early 90s uh i came here in like 97 okay so it was the the business was but it's about the energy when you're in the room with people it is but it's very it's also about what the business asks of you like at that point in my career the the job was you go and you get you do commercials and you guessed on as many things as you can and then when it's pilot season you book a pilot right and you do that pilot and then you book a bunch of other stuff and you know nine times

out of ten pilots didn't get picked up like it was I did tons of pilots um but they're like this one's Aaron spelling this is a big one but he hadn't had a hit on TV in years Right. 90210 was he was going to hang it up if 90210 didn't do well. He was going to like bow out gracefully from the business and not do it. Did he ever tell you that? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Wow. So he, uh, this, this kid, Darren Starr had this script, this concept. And it was like, it's a nighttime soap, but for kids. It's about school. It's about life. It's about all of that. And it's all going to be told. from their perspective.

We're going to set the show in Beverly Hills because nobody knows anything about it. It's this like oddly famous city that nobody knows about because the internet didn't exist. There was no way of, unless you traveled and you were there, there was no way of really knowing anything about it. And the first 13 episodes, nobody watched. It's just...

You thought this is done. It was dead. oh absolutely plus we were on fox we were on this network that literally had like three other shows right it was like married with children it had married with children 21 jump street the tracy olman show which is great which was great she's brilliant it had all of these really great shows but it was just this small little like rinky dink they they had like a building which wasn't it wasn't the fox it wasn't on pico when i auditioned for 9-0-2-0. I didn't go to Fox. I went to Aaron Spelling's office. Wow. For test, for everything.

I was never once on the phone. So you get this. You're thinking, you know, I'll just do this pilot. It goes. 13 episodes. The ratings are bad. I'm on to something else. I'm going to get something else. Yeah. And then what changed? Fox. Fox didn't have any other programming. So they just kept it. They were like, we've already got this. 13 episodes of it. It's an hour thing. We have nothing else to put in its place. If we pull it. So we'll just pay for the rest of the season. I can't imagine the show was expensive at that point. I mean, it was so, um, school, diner. They were just like kind of throwing ideas at the wall and seeing what stuck, you know, and what worked. But did you enjoy it? Had a great time. Had a great time because I hadn't, um, I'd known Shannon forever, but we had never worked together.

Um, working at the school was super fun. It was a really cool cast. We were all young. So it was like, it was just it was like summer camp every single day it wasn't there weren't any real adults in any of the stuff we were all just who had the biggest attitude coming in um but you don't have to say yeah i don't know honestly did you feel like someone was a little bit too cool for school no no i didn't because it was all everybody was probably nervous for the well and for the most part it was people that hadn't like they didn't have massive resumes leaving up to like i'd been in the business for a long time. I would probably say me. I probably had the biggest ego. I had the biggest ego. Guys, I'm doing national commercials and I'm doing all this stuff. God, looking back on it,

what an asshole I was. I was on Knott's Landing. God damn it. Yeah. Yeah. So it was, you know, I had, Shannon and I had the most work under our belts. We were the ones that had these like quotes, these working quotes and all of that. But it was super fun. And then all of a sudden, the summer episodes they started they came up with this brilliant idea of doing these summer episodes so when all the other shows went into uh reruns we had new original shows so when kids were out of school they had something to watch that was brand and everything changed everything changed within like a week and a half two weeks wait so you went from uh nobody watching to boom massive yeah and do you remember the first time you were like something's different i was at a

gas station and the Chevron right down at the corner of Magnolia and Laurel Canyon I know that Chevron yeah I was in there and I had just finished putting gas in my car and I was walking out to it and there was a car full of kids there was one parent but then like three girls and all of them were like oh my god are you on that show and i was like which show like what do you what do you mean they were like oh the the the beverly hills one i was like oh yeah i am they were like we love that show and they left and i remember thinking that was that's crazy because i've never been in a gas station and had people know who i was that way like i had small amounts of it from right knots landing yeah um usually older women

Older women, yeah, and it was very, and it was like one out of every, like, 25 people I would run into, you know, 30 people would be like, hey, you're the kid from that show, right? So that, going to work the following Monday, I remember feeling like this is, there's something going on here. And did you share it with the other castmates? Did they notice it? Yeah, I did. Everybody was noticing all these little things. And then we did grad night at Disneyland. and that was the moment when I, like, really knew this show is something big.

Like everybody was recognizing, yeah. It was all kids from school. It was there. It was grad night that Disneyland throws this thing every year. And it's all the, you know it? It's all the high school graduates. They, they close the whole park. So it's just them.

And they have this massive thing. And we were on the Tomorrowland Terrace, the stage that comes up out of the ground. And it was, this is so going to date this. story. Wilson Phillips was performing. Hold on. Another bad creation was performing. So we were down in the bowels of the stage. They brought us down in the tunnels because the stage comes up out of those. Wilson Phillips were up performing hold on and all their hits. And I was like, oh my God. And then we're following them up. Like, this is insane. Like, what are we doing? And I heard,

you could hear the crowd up above screaming. So I assumed, oh, they're doing another song. Like they're doing an encore, yeah. Stage came down. We didn't think anything of it. So we had this stupid idea because we were kids of like, oh, we'll hide on the stage. So when it comes up, nobody will be on it.

It'll be empty, you know? So we all like hid behind these things, these like foam blocks and shit that they had. And the stage came up and then we all kind of popped out. and the crowd went fucking bonkers. Huge crowd. Packed. Thousands of kids all.

And it was like it was one of those situations where the moderator would ask you a question and as soon as you would start answering, they'd be screaming and you were like, I didn't even say anything yet. Like this is, it was like the Beatles always talked about they stopped touring and doing shows because they couldn't hear themselves singing

and performing anymore. That is just incredible. It was that. It was like crazy. So we would do mall appearances and there would be thousands. Did you ever do one with Tiffany? No, never. Or Debbie Gibson?

No, no, no, no. No, you were, it was bigger than that. It was. It was different. Yeah, it was, I mean, we were, we knew all those people, but it was, I mean, this was the time following, like, new kids on the block. So they were on the cover of every magazine, every, you always saw on the news like girls screaming and you know knocking over chain link fences and them running to their tour buses

and you saw like complete pandemonium and then all of a sudden we were inside that world and it was like we would do a mall appearances and there would be like tens of thousands of people in the mall and they would have to sneak us out in like laundry carts and weird shit like girls would chase you oh yeah yeah it was insane it was crazy we had ion and i went to spain season two or season three to promote the show because it was on their big in spain 15,000 people in the airport they the network made the mistake of announcing we were coming in thinking oh we'll get some people at the airport it'll be great news coverage not good they we get off the plane the stewardess is telling us like oh you can't get off yet like there's something going on we we got to hold you on the plane

for a minute and I and I were like oh maybe there's a couple photographers we've been sleeping for 14 hour so we're like doing our hair in the bathroom and you know getting ready and all of a sudden all these uh police come on the plane oh my god what's going on they're gonna ask for you they usher usher us into this like back wood paneled room and the room is packed with security and police and and they're all speaking spanish so i have no idea what's going on but you could tell that the mood was very like um there was a lot of dread in the air. They were scared.

It did not feel good at all. They had, and then I noticed a door at the opposite end of the room opened, and there were two people that looked a lot like Ian and I that were ushered out the door. And then all of a sudden this door in front of us flies open, and they bring us out. And we later found out that they had two doubles like lookalikes to send one way to get the crowd to shift a little bit. So then we could come out at this side and hope.

hopefully sneak through. It was, there were so many people and it was so tightly packed that at one point, I was like, dude, check this out. And I looked and he, he'd lift up his feet and it was so tightly packed. He was just like held in and moving with the crowd and like you didn't even have to walk. So he was just floating in the, they were just compressed around him. Yeah, it was, it was really insane. Okay, so I just want to let you know that any success I've had in my life has

never compared to anything remotely close. Dude, no success I've ever had in my life compares to that. You know what? That's not, I don't, and I still don't, I don't, I don't, I still to this day don't feel like it was, it had anything to do with me. I feel like the show was massive. So if it was, if it was anybody else in my place, it would have been the same thing. It wasn't any one of us. It was lightning in a bottle. It was lightning in a bottle. And let me tell you something. It's good to, at some point, like, I knew when I was on a hit show, nothing as big as yours. But like, I was like, if this is it, this could be very well the biggest thing I ever do. And that's great.

I think some people try to, you know, I got to top this. I got to do the. No, it's like, hey, except that this is, for me, it was like, except this is the biggest thing you'll probably ever do. And you might do a lot of other great stuff. But like, don't try to. You know what I mean? Like, how lucky are you? to get that experience.

When you came off the show, though, were you, um, were you, like trying to, like, rebrand yourself and, and start something new,

like, because a lot of people come off of stuff and they're kind of salty with the success that they had. And they feel like I, I want to, I want to rebrand. I want to change my name.

I want to grow my hair. Yeah. I want to grow my hair out. You had like the very specific thing. Yeah, I want to grow my hair out. Eyebrows back. I'm going to have some stuff

on my face. I just felt... I'm not going to wear a hat anymore. Like, you know, never again with suits, only sweats. Like, you know, I'm going to go for it. No, I think for me it was, I have played this for seven years and I've done all I can. And I just wanted to, I wanted to break. Like, I was, I just felt like I want to do some comedy.

I want to do what I want to do. I want to go direct my own little indie movie. I want to have a life. I want to see my friends. I just felt like I was done. I was supposed to do six years. I did seven. And I was done.

Was there ever any concern or any thought that you wouldn't extend your contract? Because renegotiations had to be held. I mean, we did 10 years. So you only your contracts. Our contract was only for either five or seven. Right. So they had to renegotiate. They had to renegotiate.

Did you guys do as a cast? No. You wish. Oh, fuck. I so wish. I know. Tom wouldn't do it with me either. So it was separate and I had to wait until he was done.

I, the, they're like, I watched what the friends cast did and it's like, God, if we had done that, if we had, if we had all come together and been like, it's all or nothing, we could have done so fucking work. Right. Like, never had to work again a day in our lives. But when the top, and that didn't happen. When the top one's the show and it's every man for himself. Then you're, you're not going to get as much as you would.

You're just fucking hanging on at the end. You're like, how much is left? Like, I really want this. And they're like, no, we don't have. We can't make this show for, you know, if we're paying you that. And you're like, I. So everybody did it separately? Everyone.

Yeah. Yeah. Did you resent any of them for a while for that? No, no. But I, so when we went back and did, we did a reboot, like a six episode thing. Yeah. I very much in my mind was like, listen, we're going to go in to this with favored nations. Yeah.

All across the board. Everybody gets the same. Because I know now what my quote is. Like I had worked nonstop since 90210. I've been doing all sorts of stuff. So I was like, my quote is really good. Yeah. So people that haven't worked so much,

I'm going to bring them up to my level. Like, you know, let's do this and let's go for it. But it's still not, it's still a bit of that every man for himself mentality. Unfortunately, with our cast. Maybe it was because it was a bigger cast, you know? How many, how many leads were there, really? There were eight in the beginning.

Eight, because friends had six. Yeah, so it was kind of the same. It wasn't, yeah. Maybe you guys weren't all as tight as friends were. I think also friends, they all worked together every episode. We had our own storylines. Yeah, yeah. So, like, I had no idea what was going on with other people on the show or what the,

and I, you know, I would happen to read a script or something. And I go, oh, my God, that's so cool. That's so great. What a great storyline. But because it was different, I don't think it bred that same sense. of you know we're all one unit we're all working towards something so let's band together and and be friends through all of it yeah i remember going it's me tom and christin no it's not yeah should have been oh okay me and tom no no no should have been you willing yeah totally no it should

have been i get it like he was i always say fuck you willing just when i look in the mirror in the morning just because it kind of gets me through the day i mean you worked with tom i did i mean you did how many episodes of small. I only did two. You did two. It feels like more. I only worked with him. It does it? It feels like more because we went to the Smallville reunion. You were there in Chicago. I felt like everybody was like, maybe they were excited because all the other work you've done. I think so that's that's the thing. Like I, you know, there are a lot of people because the show was on for what 10 seasons? 10 seasons. And I was in season nine, I think is when Matallo came in. Yeah. So there were a lot of people that were like, I'm not even up to your season yet. I was like, oh, so you have no idea who, you know, and they see a picture and they go. Ooh, that looks really cool.

And I was like, do you want me to sign something? They were like, no. And then, and then unfortunately, they didn't put me anywhere near the room that you and Tom were in. Yeah, what was that about? It's your fucking convention. What do you mean? I don't have any, no, I thought it'd be cool if, like, we're all in the one room. All in one room.

Yeah, I don't know. Maybe we'd change that next year. I was next to John Schneider. Yeah. I think it'd be fun if we all walked into our tables at the same time. And it was like, hey, here we are. And then people could just round robbing around the room. it always makes it better and then all the other spaces you have all the other stuff have your food

have your concessions have your stuff you know smallville 2006 nashville it's not up yet but get on that you guys have something else coming up oh cruise the cruise next year cruiseville cruiseville that'll be fun we did the first one already it was really fun i i'm not a fan of cruises dude i'm going on a cruise tomorrow are you really i'm leaving on a cruise tomorrow that's what i want to get how many days is The Smallville cruise. Oh, the Smallville cruise, probably like five nights or six nights. So it's a hefty cruise. Yeah, but it's now that they've worked out a lot of the kinks, you know, but it still was great.

I think it's going to be a lot better next year, smooth, smooth sailing. And then the cruise that you're going on now, is it like a riverboat cruise? No, this is a Mexico cruise. Oh, really? Yeah. For seven nights. It leaves right out of here a Long Beach. Oh, my God.

And my girlfriend and I are going. And I'm excited. I love, I love cruising. I've only done it once and I loved it. So we did, when we were doing the show, Fox would do all these like really crazy random promo trips where they would bring a bunch of people from their shows. And then you would, you'd spend a couple hours doing promos like, hey, coming up next, you know, don't go anywhere because the new episode of 21 Jump Street is coming up right here on, you know, you do all those silly things. And so they did a Fox one and it was myself, David Foss. For Marriwood Children.

Love David. Tashina Arnold from Martin. It was a good-sized group of us. And it was miserable. It was like a five-day cruise. Everybody knew we were all on the ship. So we couldn't go anywhere. We were stuck in our rooms for five.

So we got to Mexico and took a car, hired a car service to drive back to Los Angeles. because I didn't want to get back on the on the ship I was like and I'm good I'm done drove wow yeah so that's your experience that's my experience and then I actually just shot something on a cruise ship didn't like that either that wasn't as bad I think you got to go for vacation just for fun for like four nights somewhere let me let me tell you how Mexico is okay on the cruise because I like it because is it like a booze cruise like are you just like wasted the whole time no no it's like you know wake up we're in port we go to you know we get an excursion we're just going to be on the beach all day

and go to shops and then come back by five take a nap wake up have a nice dinner then go to the gambling boat or the gambling casino and uh you know get some late night pizza at the pizza joint just like you know go to different ports and do the odds in those casinos though on the on the ships are horrible why do you think i'm going on another cruise because i lost gambling last time and now it's a free trip I almost lost my house in Burbank because of that Fox Cruise. It was horrific. Horrific. Dude, listen, all the things you, I mean, you've done so many things.

It's like it's like, you've done a lot of things. You've done everything. It's like, you know, quick question about soap operas, Nott's Landing. How many lines did you have to learn a day? So that wasn't bad because that's not a daytime song. Daytime soaps are different. Those are people are like 30 pages of, I have 30 pages of dialogue tomorrow.

It's like, what do you mean you of 30 pages of dialogue? Yeah, I dated a girl who was on there and she was like, go over this with him. So did I. You're doing all this tomorrow. Yeah, so did I. Who's yours? Vanessa, who lives right up the street.

My first son, Cassius, that's his mom. Maril? Yeah, Marcel. Marcel, Marcel. She was on General Hospital. Yeah. So she had to go all these lines. All these lines.

Do you get along with all your exes? No. You don't. Well, what about, I know you probably talk about it, but like, you know, I just saw there was a thing with your first day, your son at school. Yeah. With you and Megan and it looked great. Yeah.

Yeah. No, Megan and I are great. Megan and I, Megan gets along with my fiancee now, Charna, amazingly. It's, how, why is it great? Because, um, we just co-parent well. We kind of stay out of each other's way. and I realized early on, like, I, you know, people separate for a reason. Yeah.

It's not uncommon. Like, we're not going to all of a sudden just be great friends as we're co-parenting. Like, we, you know, it's, we stopped being together because we didn't get along as well as we did when we first did. So let's take that expectation out of it and just, like, resign to the fact that, listen, I only care about the health and wellness. of my kids you're going to parent how you do i'm going to parent how i do um and you wish you're the best want to be healthy i wish you're the best because she's she's my the mother of three of my kids yeah and also because i like i know her so well i mean we started dating she was 18 years old yeah it's we were together for 15 years so i know her really really well the fact that you're

mature enough to um put everything aside and say and maybe you've been through it you've tried and tried because you tried a lot to make it work and it didn't work eventually which is you know you gave it your all and it didn't work out and so it's like now we have these beautiful kids let's do its best for them but it seems like she's the same way i learned so i learned a lot from my previous relationship uh with cash's mom like we it was a very tumultuous separation um Because you have this thing in your head of like you want to win. Like you want to be the smarter of the two and you want to be acknowledged for that. So you've got these unrealistic expectations and both of us did.

So it was extremely tumultuous. So when Megan and I first started dating and then the kids were born, we just, we really made a decision at the point when we separated of this. we can't keep this from affecting our kids but it's up to us how it affects our kids so it's going to no matter what like it's gonna it sucks for kids when the parents separate and all that and it's two houses and and but you either make it a great situation where they go oh my god we get two of everything now this is unbelievable you know or you make it like it each side talking shit about the other parent and all of so there's none of that there's none of that never What a blessing.

Such a blessing. What a blessing because I still deal with it. My parents have been divorced for, I don't, 20-something years. It doesn't end. And they still can, you know, we'll talk shit here and there. I don't need to hear it. What are you doing? Right.

Well, with this, I'm like, no. Right. You know. Right. You're the one that chose this other person. Like, leave me out of it. Yeah. Yeah.

Cash is 23 now. And so the last thing I want to do is, have him deal with any sort of shit so i honestly like i just stay as far away from that situation as i can yeah with his mom and go okay we you know it's we started something poorly that just i don't think we'll ever fix itself so let let's just chalk it up to it was a learning experience yeah um i got to ask were you nervous doing the masks here super because that's like live right there all this stuff i mean that would i would be nervous as shit it's so really nervous because i am not a singer and i knew like i was going to have to sing so even though in your mind

you're like yeah but i'm wearing a costume nobody's going to know it's me you still don't want to sound like crap so what's you sing i sung uh get down on it get down on yeah and uh one of the black IP's songs. Let's get it started. I think it was. Yeah. That's not that easy to sing. Well, rapping and singing and then also doing choreography in this crazy, like nine

foot tall giraffe costume. It was a lot. It was a lot. But it was super fun. It was super fun. It's an incredible thing. Yeah, because you did something else with them. You were a panelist.

I was a panelist on the mass dancer. They decided, hey, let's try this spinoff, which was way too hard. Like, how are you possibly going to guess a celebrity based on the way they dance? Well, there's a couple. You could probably guess Corey Feldman. Sure. I love Corey. I bet you could, you know.

I bet you do. I bet you could do. That's about it. So the first episode I could do. I could do one guest. One of them I'd know well. So they did these incredible clue packages. So that was kind of like the, that became the giveaway.

But it took a while to figure, to figure it out, but we had cool people. Like we had Oscar de La Jolla, we had iced tea. Like, it was really, really, really cool. Brian McKnight, like, we had all these people. It was like, oh, my God, how did we get these people? Because you're doing season one, and you're like, we're not going to get any guests on this thing.

There's no way anybody's going to want to do it. But, like, Brian McKnight was, he was like, I believe I can fly. Is that Brian McNay? No, that's Arkelly. Arkelly, ooh, I shouldn't have sang that one. But you sang it. beautiful let's take back that song like you had honey in your voice that time that was really

what's amazing what's a good song when we're from brian mcnight was uh him and vanessa leums did um they had one on the 90210 soundtrack right Brian's gonna do it but he never did mass singer because he was like my voice is too familiar and I know they're gonna figure it out right away. So you had a podcast, then you stopped doing the podcast, then you try to do a podcast again. Iheart radio signed you to exclusive. Yeah. So what, what's the podcast and where is it at? So it's, um, is it going to happen? We're doing it. You're doing it. What do you mean is it's available? We're on. Okay. But the way you're sounding is like. Yeah. Sure. That's how I'm sounding because this is like my third podcast. Oh. Um, um,

it's you know how it is like you kind of throw ideas out there and all of a sudden people listen you go hey that's cool like people actually care and then sometimes they just don't sure and you're like god i it's you know i there's no rhyme or reason to why they do or they don't the first one that i did um i ended up doing for almost five years with uh derrick russell who did the uh the smallville podcast that's how i ended up he reached out to me about the convention oh wow yeah it was like hey do you want to come do this one yeah um and So he did the official podcast for Sarah Connor Chronicles that I was doing on Fox. And then he was also doing it on Smallville. So I ended up doing like four episodes of his podcast. And then he reached out and he was like, hey, you want to do, we'll do our own podcast. And I was like, okay, a long time ago. What's it about? I don't know.

That's cool. Let's do it. And so. Just talk. Yeah. So we did a podcast called With Bag. And it was, he lives in Mississippi. I live here.

So we would just call each other on Skype and hit record as soon as the other person answered. And it was an hour. And we were talking about the new movies that were out, new people we'd met, new experiences we had. And it was the greatest time ever because there was literally no rhyme or reason to it at all. There was no format.

There was no, we had no guests. So we weren't researching. We weren't, you know, we weren't asking relevant questions. Like, we didn't give a shit. Right, right, you're just doing it. It was just silly and people liked it because they would listen to it, driving to work, and they would laugh along with us.

Yeah. We did that for five years and then stopped doing that. And now I'm doing this one oldish. Oldish. With my fiance and Randy Spelling, Tori Spelling's younger brother, he's been a life coach for 18 years now. So it's about life and sort of navigating? It's about being oldish. Being kind.

All of it. All of it. And you love it. I love it. And we do, it's all video. It's eye heart radio? Well, no. So our first season we were on IHeart, but IHeart is audio only.

Right. So then we were like, we really wanted video. So now we independently produce it ourselves. That's great. And you still love it? I love it. Yeah, it's fun. It's a good time.

And we have our guests are, you know how it is. Your guests all of a sudden start exceeding even what your numbers are and how well you think it's doing. You start hearing from people and you go, get the fuck out of here like we it's we we just have unbelievable people now reaching out to us you know like professionals and health and wellness and all these spaces we just had john edward on our show i had him on mine he reached out to us and he's got the book and we were like get the fuck out of you john edward is good and he was fun and he was great yeah and then we also had um we had his writing partner bob on also so we had a separate one with him talking about the

book that they have that just came out yeah um so you're learning a lot while you're doing it's not just you're not just talking you're like that's that's how i feel about like talking to guests and see how they navigate like it helps me i know it helps people listening it's like you know we talk about mental health speaking of which did you ever go through anxiety or depression i went through well i mean i went through my 20s from 17 to 27 on the show so it was it was a mixed back of emotions it's you know I mean that was that that's kind of the time in life where like you are the most critical and you're you're kind of growing vulnerable you're figuring out who you are and what feels good and what doesn't and and if you have confidence or not and it was just like

my confidence took a nose dive for a few years for sure yeah because there were so many people watching and then so many people criticizing and so many people having ideas and I took them all a heart and all of a sudden I was afraid to look like look a barista in the eye at Starbucks because I thought oh they're going to be judging me as soon as I walk up to the really you're insecure super insecure and what did you do to get out of that um so funny enough Megan helped me out a lot with that when I first started dating her um she was 18 she was doing hope and faith in New York this show with Kelly Rippa and Faith Ford.

And she would just, like, we'd go out places and she was constantly like, what are you doing? Why do you care? Where, you know, like, who cares? Don't worry about what they think. And so then it got me in this habit of not caring so much and not being as affected by it. And then you know how it is. Like once you start new things, then those become your new habits. And then once I started like really getting into therapy and kind of working on stuff.

Um, then I became addicted to being a better human being and having a better sense of what's around me. The show has really helped because it has, it's great to hear things where you go, okay, I, I've felt that way. So now it just that, what you just said justifies the way I feel and the way I act and perform in life. Um, so it's just all about finding those like, minded people and surrounding yourself by him because then then learning isn't a chore learning is

like oh it's so nice yeah it's it's refreshing to be around a bunch of people that that kind of look and think like you well i wish it didn't take so long for me i'm glad you know it finally dawned on me by my mid 40s and you know not necessarily how to treat people like that wasn't but it was more about how to treat yourself how to treat yourself along with that but like you know those that are listening it's like you have a chance at a younger age to to start changing your habits your bad habits now before you know you end up 45 50 and going oh man and having regrets and all these things so you know that's why i talk about how important it is to surround yourself with them with good people with common people not people that want something from you but people that genuinely care about

you yeah that are there for the tough times because when i used to throw all those big parties and sometimes they still do uh you know it's like oh and this is this shows hot and this is you know it's it's those folks that are there when that's not happening it's the dark side it's when you're sure to a treatment center for 30 days and they're like worried about you and yeah it's the people that'll that just text every once in a while just to be like hey just thinking about you hoping you're okay yeah that's exactly right that that aren't reaching out with any expectation or any need no They just want you to know, you're on my mind. I love you.

I hope you're well. And then, you know, and then you reconnect with people. But I love those relationships because those are the ones that you, they just pick up where they left off. Yeah. You don't have that feeling of like, God, I haven't talked to you for six months. I don't know what to say to those people. Right. We're two totally different people now.

It's like, no, you know, and I've only got a couple real friends in my life that I've got that with. Like, we will, we'll go for half a year sometimes just because. we're busy and there's stuff and then also you'll see them and it's like hey dude you pick up where you left off oh my god so yeah what's happening with that but yeah and you're you're all you're right away finishing each other's sentences and you're just you have the same sense of humor and the same things and the same loves and the same appreciations and i love those relationships so whenever i meet somebody that i have that with now i really cherish that and work really hard to nurture that because I want to keep that going like that is absolutely you know I I had the same

experience later on in life mid 40s when I started like really having this moment this period of like okay I'm gonna turn it around I'm gonna I'm the common like I'm the common denominator in all of these issues with friends with family with things like I have to figure out what I'm responsible for and then I need to change those things it's easy to go into therapy and point fingers and go, oh, when I was a kid, you know, I heard this and my friends at school said this. And so that's why I do all these things. So it's like, okay, great. You just, so you do all those things. Now, what are you going to do to stop doing all those fucking things? Yeah, because you're right. Like at what point are you going to stop pointing and go, okay, now I, I'm the one that is

left after all of this. So I want to undo all this. I want to stop doing these things. I want to be a healthier person to be around i want to be a better influence yeah it's almost like i feel like i could see certain things bad habits and people get into them very good judge of character sure and i'm really good at you know i think i'm really good at helping people and trying to but a lot of times i don't take care of myself and i let things go and i don't worry so much about me and uh you know i don't want to just focus on me but like it's important to focus on yourself. You know what's incredibly helpful, though,

even in listening to you speak right now, that you do so much good for other people to watch and listen to when you are focused on yourself. When you're talking about, like, what you do, what you want to be better at and what you don't do as well as you want, people relate to it.

And then, and that becomes the thing where they go, God, if Michael has problems talking to people and putting himself, putting himself third and forth instead of first. Okay, I don't feel like I'm such an oddball doing these things. Oh, I feel like if people knew what was going into my head and someone who actually does have ADHD and someone who's, you know, was crippled with anxiety growing up and like wasn't even aware of it, you know, the things that go on in my head just to get through moments sometimes, I'm just like, why are you thinking about all these things?

And so it's really good to talk to people. It's really good to... It's really good for people to know those things. Yeah, I know. I try to tell... It's never easy. I'm not... You're not looking at somebody who's fixed.

No. It's something that will just... You'll never be fixed. Not if you're healthy. It's a work in progress. And that's all... Dude, if you're healthy, like I am, I always say to people, people that look up to a monk, it's like, I, this guy, if you change the perspective on it

instead of like, oh, my God, they're so, they're so. so well developed. They're living, you know, on a mountain by themselves, not speaking to people and and cleaning the floor every morning and, you know, they have all these things. But they're disconnected. If you change the perspective and instead of going, oh my God, that's something I'll never reach, realizing like, no, this person honestly got to a point in their life where they felt like I need to live this way to be the person that I want to be. Then you start going, oh, okay, so it's just choices that you make. Oh, I have. I have to make a choice of like, oh, I'm going to stop going to all of these house parties

with people that I don't know and I'm going to stop surrounding myself with 500 acquaintances and instead I'm going to really nurture these five friendships that I have and I'm going to make those things more important. Those are the same choices that a monk makes to live on top of a hill and shave their head. It's all, it's all relative. Very wise. You're very wise for 52. too. Thanks. Very wise. Dude, I've had a long go of it. Dude, I love it. I could tell and I love it.

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dad his name was peter and i never met him and it sounded great until you realize that it was Brian P. Green, if we just used the initial. Like, yeah, that doesn't work so well. That's not so hot. Linda M. What have you learned about yourself in the past year? That growth is hard,

but can be incredibly exhilarating. Incredibly fun. Leanne, you met at the salute to Smallville, the Smallville con. I mentioned how much I love Shannon Doherty. Would you mind sharing a friend? favorite memory you have with her? She used to dance with me and my friends in my dressing room when we had time off,

which we had a lot of. And she was super fun. She was just an incredible heart. And she was so loyal to people that were friends of hers and that were loyal with her. She was just an amazing human being. Yeah. I mean, did that just crush you when she passed? It was...

Or was something you were expecting, too, because it was, you know, over the time was getting worse. So she passed and Luke passed, but in very different ways. Luke had a stroke. That was a really tough one because I had seen Luke not even a week before then. We'd had lunch and he was Luke. He was the same exact person that I'd know. Just one day gone. And all of a sudden I got a call and it was like, hey, he's in the hospital.

He had a stroke last night. And then, you know, two days later, yeah, he didn't make it. It was like, what? what you're kidding right this is i'm being like punked right now this doesn't make any sense shannon had stage four for a long time yeah and so there's it wasn't in the front of my mind but there was always that thing in the back of my mind of appreciate all of these moments because you don't know how many more you're going to get so yeah just enjoy all of this time that's left it's shitty when you lose people at the age we are now because like I know I'm

going to lose people that I love in my life that's just that's inevitable but you don't think you're going to lose them this early on yeah so when you do you're like God I just never I never saw that coming and it like smacks me in the face of my age and I'm at that age like we're at that age we're in our 50s which is crazy because I don't feel like I'm in my 50s? I do. Well, you don't look like it. So good for you.

Sometimes. Sometimes I do. I do when I get up in the morning and I get up out of bed and my knees, my knees hurt. And I'm stretching and it's like, God, I'm stretching. I can barely move right now, let alone stretch. Do you notice your 50s that you, it's time where like when you get up and you're walking to the door, you look if there's something in your way. Yes.

When you were younger, you didn't really care. Yes. You'll just deal with it if you fall. Now I'm like looking, where's everything? I might trip over that. I'm going to. So what's, dude, what's really funny about that is my fiancé now, she's a dancer, but she's really getting into acting.

And she was just in this off-Broadway play with Paige Davis called Penn Pals. And it's this great two-person show. And they're pen pals. And they age from 14 years old to 70s. Right. So they have the whole story. And so where Sean and I are constantly talking. about character ideas and things to do.

And I said to her, I said, you know, I wouldn't say that when you're older, you move slower, but you move more deliberately. And I find myself doing that. Like when I'm walking up and downstairs, I'm thinking more about where my foot's going, what's that?

Because I do dumb shit otherwise. Like I'll kick a step and like break my toe easily. And it's like, what the fuck? It's wrong with me. Yeah. Why am I doing this? now and it's because i'm not the you know the young kid anymore like and i and i'm way more fragile and when i hit myself uh it hurts way more than it did when i was younger like i'll run

into doorways with my shoulder or something i'll be like oh my this comedian goes they say 20's a new or 30 is a new 20 they say 40's the new 30 but when you 50 you just damn 50 ain't nothing new about that shit you just damn it's true difference is you got to grab that handle when you go to stand you have to take it's true i always make sure yeah i everything is deliberate yeah i know it's true it's all deliberate what else is going on in your life right now that you want to promote or anything uh you're always doing so many things it's like i was like i could have talked about yeah so many things i just did a really cool film in spain what's it called uh it's called abominable we're in post now on it was really really fun we shot in the mountains of spain who was i was by

myself wow very little dialogue it reminded me me a lot of remember that movie quest for fire yeah so it's just like the journey of a man and it's for the audience watching they're like why am i following what is happening what's going apropos why are they doing this um so it was super fun to shoot where again we're in post production now it was just in spain for san diego comic con they branched out and so they're in malaga now this was the first year so it's san diego comic con molliga wow it was really really cool that's great We did it. We showed a teaser trailer, did a panel. They loved it.

Yeah, people have been loving it. That's great. You never know, you know. I love it. What's your handle? Brian Austin Green. Brian Austin Green. Very simple.

It was for a while, aren't you that guy underscores between each one because everybody would go, wait, aren't you that guy? But then someone I was dating was like, you can't. That's so hard to find. I get those things. There's like, yeah. You're not Michael Rosen, wait a minute. I'm like, are you who I think you are?

And I always have that moment with someone of like, who do you think I am? Who do you want me to be? Yeah, who do you want me to be? Because nine times out of ten, I am not that person. Yeah, I'm not that person either. No, I'm not. Sorry. David, thanks for being here.

This is awesome. Thanks, Brian. I loved it. I hope you enjoyed your time here too. We'll have to have you back some time. But thanks. Yeah, that was great. Okay, let's get into it.

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