Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - CASSANDRA PETERSON: Retiring ELVIRA, Elvis’ Big Warning & Embracing Being Different

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

Cassandra Peterson (Elvira: Mistress of the Dark) joins us this week to grace us with stories she couldn’t share before her book release… warnings from Elvis, retiring her Elvira get-up, coming out and more! We talk about what could have been with Paul McCartney and other iconic stories during her tenure as Mistress of the Dark. Cassandra shares the impact of helping people embrace being different, what made her accept the path to Elvira, and the heartbreak of losing Paul Rubin (Pee-wee Herman). Thank you to our sponsors: 🚀 Rocket Money: https://rocketmoney.com/inside 🏈 PrizePicks: https://prizepicks.com/inside 🛍️ Shopify: https://shopify.com/inside 🌟 JCPenney: https://www.jcpenney.com __________________________________________________ 💖 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/insideofyou 👕 Inside Of You Merch: https://store.insideofyoupodcast.com/ __________________________________________________ Watch or listen to more episodes! 📺 https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/show __________________________________________________ Follow us online! 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🤣 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@insideofyou_podcast 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/insideofyoupod 🌐 Website: https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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therapy yeah yeah yeah i like it yeah it helps i'm going to do therapy tomorrow cool that's good Yeah. It's important, man. Especially now, I've just been like, it's so much going on and I'm about to have surgery and it's just like I got a lot of my mind and I need to talk to someone who actually. A professional. A professional who will listen. Yeah. And so it's important. That's good. Yeah, it's good. Great episode today. Truly. One of my favorite people on the planet, Cassandra Peterson, Elvira. We really talk a lot about what's in her book. And I think you're going to really enjoy this conversation. Boy, is she open. I just loved having her here. What a delight. I love you, Cassandra. You know that.

Or Cassandra. I don't know. All right. Let's get inside of Cassandra Peterson. It's my point of you. You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of you with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio audience. First thing we start talking about is you have your own horror con.

Yeah, so it's just Elvira Presents and it's going to be a big horror con up in Washington State. So it's your con? Kind of. So you have to show up? I do have to show up. So you'll be signing and taking pictures and all that stuff? I will be doing everything as myself because I'm not dressing up in the drag anymore. You're done with it?

Yeah, yeah. When did you put that away? Um, it was, uh, when was it? My last appearance in the Azel Vyro was on, the Goldbergs, which is so bizarre. I didn't play that that way. I just decided after that, I'm not dressing up anymore. Why is that? Why?

Because I think it gets to a certain point. You know, you still look freaking fantastic. I want to go out on top. Yeah, but there's that little moment, that little one minute where you're looking really good. And then all of a sudden, oh, poor old virus. So you want to leave on a good. Good enough. Exactly, you know. Like Biden. Like Biden. Yeah. Do you feel like you're going to start falling apart? Is that what you're telling me? Well, yeah, probably. I mean, I'm 72. It's bound to happen at some point, you know. I just, you know, what is it? What is it about aging? Because I, I have dealt with a lot of surgeries my whole life and I'm 52 and I could feel it already. And I'm like going, well, wait a minute. What's going to be like when I'm 60, 70? Does it get, does it honestly just get really a lot worse?

it hasn't for me no pain no no no i don't really have any no knees no arthritis no because my mom is a lot older not a lot older she's five years older and she's an absolute mess it's her wrist it's her knee she falls she can't get up she's foggy she's this what do you do to keep going the way you're going nothing i wish i had a good plan nothing no lately i haven't even worked out and normally i mean most of life i was a i was a dancer so as i was never an athlete but i was always you know physical working dancing so you probably have really good heart maybe we'll we'll see soon i have a bunch of heart tests coming up when i get back uh home but um yeah hopefully i i i don't know what i've done i i i order knock on wood right now knock right there's a table yeah all of that's what

oh crash uh yeah because i just um no i've been very healthy let me ask you this this is kind of a person well you say everything in your book i mean yours cruelly elvira get the book i mean if you want to know everything because it's funny last time you were well you were here a long time ago and there were some things you just didn't want to talk about and there were some things i didn't know and there was all this stuff but this book yours cruelly elvira it says everything it's like you became an open book and why did you feel the need to to write this book um mostly it was my my whole life people have been tell i tell people's story about being in Vegas the story of about being on the road with my band Mama's boys,

you know, about working with Fellini, and they go, you have to write a book. This is insane. Yeah. I mean, I feel kind of like Forrest Gump, you know, the female Forrest Gump. I came along across. I remember when I went out with Elvis. It's not the box of chocolate.

Anyway, it kind of, it's just one crazy thing after another happened to me, and people would always say to me, you have got to write a book. So I would make feeble attempts to write a book. you might write one little story down, you know, and put it away, and I've read a little story, and finally just got to, I got to do this. If I'm ever going to do it, I'm going to do it now. No one approached you and said, hey, we're going to give you half a million dollars to write the Elvira book. Cassandra Peterson tells it all. I took it out and sold it. With the help of my good friend Pamela DeBar, who is the, you know, the premier groupie. If people aren't

familiar with her, she's amazing. But she's also a writer, and she wrote this very, very big book a lot of years ago, but called I'm With the Band. And so Pamela was saying, if you don't get a book deal, you will never write this book. Because the only thing that makes you write a book is to have a deadline. If your deadline's three days, you'll get it done at three days. If it's 30 years, you'll get it done at 30 years. It really is. So she introduced me to her agent, literary agent, and he got me some meetings with publishers.

and with Pamela's help, I wrote up a little synopsis, and boom, I sold it right away. And then I had that deadline, and it was one year. And I had to sit down. Did you wait and wait and wait? No, I jumped right on it, man, because I knew there was a lot of work. What was the first thing you started writing in the book? Was it chronological? Were you feeling what did you start from the beginning and work your way up?

I did start chronologically, and then I went back when I did the editing. and made it a little more interesting. I started with how I became Alvira. And then I flashed back to the beginning when I was born. Was the hardest chapter where you say, were you thinking of cutting it out, where you say, you know, I'm coming out. I've had this woman in my life. Oh, yeah, that was another reason for writing it, just getting that out of there.

Did you really, is that what you wanted to do? That was the way you were going to tell the world you thought that that was easier? Like, just say it and that's it. Yeah, and be done with it. And then I thought, I'm old enough now that they're, If I lose all my fans, you know. Why would you lose your fans? You could do whatever you want.

I know. I did lose some people, some straight guys who got all p-oed about it, you know? Like I'm going to go out with them anyway, right? Yeah, we're going to go. We're going to go on a day. You had a chance. Well, it did bum me. You know, I mean, because I'm telling you, some big-name actors have been at these cons.

And I don't know how many have come up to me and go, dude. El-vira. I'm like, yeah, I know. She's a great woman. She's really smart. No, no, she's, I mean, you know, she's like 70. And I'm like, yeah. And they're like, I would.

And I'm like, I think everybody would. Oh, dear God. And these are young, hot actors and even actresses. Did you like hearing that? I do like hearing it. What the hell? If I told you one name, I'm not going to say the name, but I'll tell you afterwards. Oh, boy.

They said it to me. And I was like, they went on about it. And you'll be like, what? Yeah, yeah. So is it something you knew at a young age? Is it something you were like, you know, because you got married, you dated men, your whole life? You mean like being gay or something? Oh, no.

Like being gay or something? No, I never, I never, ever had one inkling of being gay. Never thought about women, girls, never thought, they were, no, not a sexy way. They were my friends and stuff. But I never, I, you know, I don't know, people say, I'm not gay now. You know, people, when did you know where you were gay? And I'm like, uh, the day I met my girlfriend, you know, I guess. The day I decided I was attracted to someone who I wanted to be with.

Yeah, that's exactly it. It was not something, um, I mean, when you read my book, you'll see, I, you know, slept with my share of men, probably way, way, way more than my share. I said that, I said, I said, a hundred men? No, more than that. I'd say, I ran. Now, you know, I told people, I'd say, you know, why did you, why were you with the women? I go, I banged everyone, all the men, you know, I had to move on, new territory.

It's sort of what's like that. I've already done that. I'm trying this now. I know. You can't just have chicken your whole life. Exactly. You know. You got to mix it up.

But that being said, would you ever consider, let's say it didn't work out? You're going to go. Well, it didn't work. Let's say it didn't work out with this woman. And you're like, you love her and you can be getting friends. And it would just, would you consider if you fell in love with a guy? Oh, yeah. Anybody.

Yeah. I mean, you know, I hope it does. I hope it works out with her. Yeah. I think it will last forever. Not 72 running around and try to look for somebody to date. Oh, God. Is she your age?

No, she's 10 years younger. So. And you're doing it right. Yeah, well, you know. Yeah. Well, I love that you just got this out of your system. Was it cathartic, the whole, the whole experience? It was.

I mean, I mean, writing the whole book was very cathartic. It was like an expensive psychotherapist, you know, except I got paid. Do you go to therapy, too? I do. I stopped for a few years, like when the pandemic happened. I don't know. I didn't feel like I needed it for a while.

And then I just went back recently, but to a really fun woman in a little she shed in Portland and it's more like we're just yak and have fun. I don't know. I don't know. It's that helpful. I mean, I wonder, is there anything in the book that you wrote and you're like, oh, this is going to upset some people, like the people you're talking about? Yeah, well, those went away because the lawyers at Hachette, my publisher. Oh, you had to cut it out.

Oh, yeah, there were things. But you were willing to do it. And some names have changed. Yeah, I didn't want to, but I had to, really, because I'm going to get sued. I was worried about my ex-husband. I didn't have, you know, too many great things to say about him. but right never heard from him so not so far anyway and he's in the book yeah yeah he has to be i mean i was married 25 years to this guy so well i can't hardly you know i can't skip that and you know

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taken out but no i said pretty much everything i don't think i think if you read it you'll you'll see i was but if you could put that book out with everybody's real names and all the stuff that you couldn't do would it be just an uproar like could be there's a lot of celebrities involved at moments times yeah a lot of like scheming sickos no no just a lot of sex with you know celebrities Did you ever have a threesome? Oh, yeah. You know, I'm, I've only had one in my life. I've only had the 60s and 70s.

Yeah, but most people haven't had a threesome, Ryan. Really? He's like, don't talk to me. No, many, many times. You know, it was something you did. I swear to God, in the, it was. It was just the time. 60s, 70s.

It was just like, oh, everybody does this. But you weren't really a big drinker and drug addict. No, not. What drugs? Huge. A little. Well, I did a lot of, I did my show. of drugs, but I never, I must not be an addicted personality because I could do, I mean,

you know, I could do joy. That's stupid to say. I did drugs. I drank a lot. Luckily, I, hopefully, you know, I don't know. You weren't out of control. I don't think I ever got out of control. I got borderline out of control a few times like, like, uh, quailudes and then Coke later. That was, those were really bad. Those were really hard to just suddenly stop. But when I really saw that I was, you know, buying little bottles of Coke and they were gone in like less than a day, I go, I got to stop. Like this is bad. And I just stopped, boom.

Really? How do quailudes make you feel? What's like, I love quailudes. I think if there were, if there was one drug that I could. And now continue taking. And it was healthy. Like if, if drugs were healthy, no, no, if drugs were healthy. If it was healthy.

I would take quailudes. Oh. What does it make you feel like? Well. And they're not called clayludes anymore. Do people still take queens? I don't think they have them anymore. I think they're all gone.

I mean, Rameh, it makes you feel like you're drunk just at the peak of like how drunk you want to be. Not sick. Not nothing. Just right on the border of like, I feel like I can fly. It has to exactly,

like really, really good. Not psychedelic in any way, but just calms all the anxiety, you know, makes you feel really happy. Cocaine just clogged my nose. I got a lot of problems with too.

Also, I'm super hyper. So I would just be insane. I'd be like, you know, people would run from me. You know, I'm already hyper. So he'd be just, yeah. Did you ever get rejected by a man that you were really into? Oh, yeah, a million times.

Like who's a big one that like you were at a Hollywood party and you're like, you know, I'd love to talk to him and he just wasn't into it. Didn't happen very often. That sounds really cocky of me, but. No. you know guys you know guys yeah um Warren Beatty I never met him he would never turn you down by the way no I know I don't he would never turn anyone down I never met him um I I tell you one thing that happened uh I went out a few times with Nick Cage and it was very platonic and this

was when a long time ago when he was doing um moon struck you know and uh is he cool he was really cool really bizarre really bizarre yeah yeah i just saw that long legs movie oh i'm dying to see that oh my god i heard he's really really i think it's the best of his career really and i oh i'm not as much as i love nick cage i can't watch anything he's in the last few years because it's just like to me it's over the top ridiculous and this the director honed it in and so oh fantastic thank you he's great and creepy and i loved him what an actor he is a great actor i I mean, he has a tendency to be a little bit of a parody of himself. He goes over so.

What do you want to do? Yeah. Let me ask. So what was it about that? That was platonic more? Well, yeah. And we hung out. We did this magazine article together.

We hung out and went to Hollywood, went to move so and Franks. And he was fun? Yes, he was super fun. Wacky is crap. And kind? Yeah, sweet. Very sweet. And I really had a giant crush on it.

And it just never went. Never happened. No, it never happened. Never materialized. No, no. You never slept with him? No. And you wanted to?

I wanted to. He was really hot back then. So what, did he tell you like, yeah, just, I'm not. What was? Did he tell you? Well, did it just kind of sizzle out? Well, no, he said, if you weren't married, I was married. That's the bad part.

Oh, well. So it didn't work out. Yeah. I mean, that ruined a lot of things. He was a good guy. He was a good guy. Most guys would be like, I don't, they would even ask you that. I know.

Well, the same thing happened with Paul McCartney. What? Yes. God. My marriage ruins so many good relationships. It did. Can you imagine? Yeah, I'm with a concert concert.

I have an autographed guitar from him. You too? Yes, his bass guitar autographed. Oh, God. But so he was hitting on you? Hitting on me. And this is right after Linda died. And then we go into his trailer and we hang out.

You make out. We have a drink. We didn't get that far. We didn't get that far. Damn it. Yeah, because he said, let's get out of here. Let's go somewhere. And I go, oh, I would love to do it.

See that guy over there? He goes, yeah. You know, that's my husband. And he goes, oh, okay, bye. And he just walked away. And that was that. Yeah. Yeah.

So depressing. If you didn't go back in time, would you have just left with him? Yes, because, look, I'm divorced now. It wouldn't have mattered. You would have got divorced a lot earlier. And it was the little tiny window of time where Paul McCartney was single. Yeah, he's a loyal guy. Oh.

What a mistake. Okay, anyway. I had an opportunity once with someone, too. Paul McCartney? No, I just, I didn't. Not with Paul McCartney. Okay. But I didn't.

There's something inside of me that just said, you shouldn't. Don't do it. Don't do it. Who is that? I can't say. I don't have a book out. It wasn't me, wasn't? No, I would not, I would not turn you down even now.

I don't remember. Okay. So with all this, with this amazing career, I mean, like, this is something you didn't even expect. Like, like, really, you didn't want. I mean, did you want to, if you can go back in time, would you have ever thought for a second, this is, I'm going to become this big star and everyone's going to know me and it's going to be like, I'm going to go to cons and sign autographs? No.

Right. What did you imagine was going to happen with your life? I wanted to be in show business. I wanted to be a working actor that made a living doing what I enjoy doing. I didn't know exactly what that was going to be or what it was, but those are my aspirations. It was like, I'm going to do work, that's enjoyable. Yeah, I mean, that was my... That worked out, though, didn't it?

It did. It did work out. And even beyond working out. Did you ever think, you know, like, I wish I wouldn't have become Elvira. I wish I would have just went more into acting and not been known as Elvira. Did you go through a period of time with that? I did. In the beginning, I really had that thing about, oh, now I'm locked into this character.

I'll never do anything else. I'm never getting other jobs. And I'm going to try to go out for this or go out for that. Were you depressed? For a little while, it was like, God damn, I'm just going to be wearing this black dress with my boobs hanging on. Nobody's ever going to really know what I can do, you know, other stuff. And then one day it dawned on me that I own the character 100%.

I have all this money coming in from licensing, merchandising, et cetera. So every time someone buys something, you still get it? I got 100% of it. I mean a hundred percent of merch yeah so I just bought two funco pops well funco funco gets what what the cost of the item was to make yeah so you're getting so much money all the time yeah and that man like all of these little statues we have around here all those belong to like a universal or 20th century you know where yeah nobody like even uh and now shatner doesn't get doesn't get his licensing what about a viral cereal oh yeah

got, you know, all of that. Don't eat that stuff, by the way. No, it's unopened. Signed by you. It's been doing good. Okay. I mean, that's crazy. So you get like all these, you, do you ever see things that are selling and you're like, I'm not getting a piece of that and you look into it? Oh, yeah. I have a company that does that full time. That's their whole job. And they get a commission off what they find. Exactly. And they find stuff all the time. Like, what have they found? Oh, God. I remember everything you can imagine. I mean, from key chains to, I don't know, dolls. And what? And what? do they get a letter in the mail saying if you don't reciprocate it's a it's a group of lawyers and they

call them and say that you that company has to pay me a percentage of everything that they made and then they do a forensic accounting jee so it's not good so you're not retiring no god you're doing you just did a book you're doing a documentary what else what's next what's the next chapter of your life and also when do you think you'll say hey i just want to go somewhere quiet and i'm done with it all i don't need I don't want to go to the cons anymore. I don't want to do any. I just want to just live and, you know, because I think about that all the time. You do.

Yeah. I think about things too. I think about honestly. How long you're going to be dragging your ass around? Well, you know, I think I, you know, I've read so much about what people always say before they die. And a hundred percent of them say, I wish I just spent more times with my friends. I wish I wasn't worried about being relevant.

And I wish I wasn't worried about proving myself. I wish I wasn't worried about, I wish I just had more connections and enjoyed my life. And my business manager is like, shut the fuck up. You're 52. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, but people die at 52. They'd die it too. But, you know, most of my friends, when they're about ready to die, they say, God, I wish I would have done just one more con.

Yeah, exactly. but you love the cons you love the people i do i do i'm doing less of them now just because i don't have to right you know you don't have to i like doing them i mean it's fun meeting the fans but you were asking me what the next chapter was i was going to say it's literally the next chapter because i'm writing two other books right now and um i have uh uh i have three more chapters to finish what else could you be talking about in this book well it's not an autobiography they're both fun kind of spooky horror Halloween-related books. Really? Yeah, so I'm working on those

right now. When I leave here, I'm going back. Will they be ready by this October? They will, and here's the sad part. We're not going to put it out this October because of the election. So you're going to wait until next October? It's a bummer, but... You know, you got to do what's right. You said you won't get any press or anything

because the election's going on. So you come out in October and nobody wants to talk to you, you know? Yeah. Yeah, in your book, By the way, I want to ask you, so you could you do nothing? Could you? No. I don't think I could. Could you live on a beach with just a little country store? I don't think I could. What needs to happen every day for you? What kind of stimulation do you need? Side sexual. Well. Well. Well. By the way, at 72, do people still have a strong sex drive? I don't know. I don't know. You'd have to ask people. People? Ask your girlfriend. Your partner. I guess you do. I mean, everything, you know. It's not as important as it was when you were younger. It's not as important. That's a thing. It's, it's fun. That's nice. But it's not like, you're driven. I don't think that way either. I'm 52. And I don't like, I'd rather just be really happy hanging out with someone. And that, of course, happens here. in there but like I don't think of it I don't obsess on it that's because you're a decent person I don't

know I just think I'm getting older and I'm just like I really want connection and I want to have fun with someone and that that's part of it but like I you know so that's what you're saying well thank God because I see so many guys who are your age and older who are just like I got bang that I hate that oh my God I've done that I was in my 20s and 30s even my 40s and like now I just kind of slow down and said, you know, I'm really trying to find, you know, someone. Yeah, a relationship. I mean, that's what matters more, you know. Yeah, sex is good.

Sex is great. It's nice. You just don't always have to. You just don't become the, you know, driving force. I think, I mean, I get up first thing in the morning, I start doing emails. I start doing business emails. How long emails? An hour and a half?

Yeah, sometimes. Okay. So sometimes I'm in bed until noon doing emails and stuff. By the way, my therapist said, Michael, your inbox will never be empty. so stop trying to finish everything that's how i feel yeah all right so you do the email i do the emails i get up i have the meetings i have the phone calls the interviews whatever and then i enjoy the rest of my day usually take my dogs or want do uh cook what's your dog's name viny and he's just viny i got it yeah well he's vincent price but he we call him viny you know what's

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okay to be different. I mean, mostly seeing the movie, El Barre Mistres of the Dark. They said, you made me feel like it was okay to be different. I felt like an outcast. And you were basically saying, fuck everybody. I'll be who I am. And it's okay. And so they come up and, I mean, honestly, sometimes they tell me they were going to commit suicide. And that I can, kept them from killing themselves. I mean, how does that make you feel? Well, I fall apart and start crying, sobbing. It makes me feel like B&L Viro was worth this one person, you know, doing this gig. Yeah, I get emotional about it very much. Yeah, it's beautiful. And it happens, it's happened to me before. I was going to say, has it ever happened? I bet it has because celebrities, I don't know,

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No, he was pretty... I mean, he'd do a little risque, but he was pretty old school. What did you do with him? Or where did you meet him? Well, he came on my TV show. I'm moving macabre. I couldn't believe it. I mean, I had this little local TV show.

And the director says, let's call Vincent Price up and see if he'd be on the show. And he came on. We were just in shock. So it was to plug a play that he was doing. How old was he at the time? God, that's a good question. 60s? Probably.

I was in my 30s. So, yeah, he was probably in the 60s. But he was very good, energetic. You know, he was. Was Vince and Bryce gay? I'm thinking he probably was bisexual. Oh. But I definitely think he had a little gay thing going on.

That's why we're. we connected because yeah guys little did you love me gay guys do love you oh they do man and you you've done yes I mean they what is I mean I look you've judged

drag shows Rupal I'm going out to dinner with Peaches Christ tonight I watched that I watched that season where he won on on what's called drag race

no no he wasn't on drag he was on the two Boulet brothers oh was it was he he won he won the season. And I watched it. Like, I watched some seasons. I really enjoyed it. Oh, good. Yeah, I love the Boulay brothers. They're amazing. I love Rupal, too. Are they nervous around you when Yeah, I think a little bit. Do you notice that most, like, gay guys are mostly just enamored by you?

Mostly, yeah. You could feel that? Yeah, I do. Do any of them cry in front of you? Oh, yeah. I won yesterday. Like, what would happen? What did it, what happened? You know, it's really amazing. They come up to me and they say, you changed my life when I was little. I knew it was okay to be different. I mean, mostly seeing the movie, El Barre Mistres of the Dark. They said, you made me feel like it was okay to be different. I felt like an outcast. And you were basically saying, fuck everybody. I'll be who I am. And it's okay. And so they come up and, I mean, honestly, sometimes they tell me they were going to commit suicide. And that I kept them from killing themselves i mean how does that make you feel well i fall apart and start crying sobbing

it makes me feel like uh being al viro was uh worth this one person you know isn't that something yeah i get emotional about it very much yeah it's beautiful and uh it happens it's happened to me before i was going to say has it ever happened i bet it has because celebrities i don't know they kind of represent a person's feelings they're in a movie or their tv show and yeah i can see you guys I got a little bit of motion. Your eyes got a little water. I do. I do.

Yeah. No, I think it's awesome. I think it obviously means a lot to you. And it means a lot to me. And it's funny in hindsight. You don't really, I mean, hindsight, it's 20, obviously. But like, while you're doing something, you know, you're dealing with all the monotonous bullshit and, you know, worrying about yourself and first world problems and all these things.

And it's funny how all of a sudden, years later, you could be at a convention and someone will come up to you and say, you save my life and i'm like yeah what are you talking about small they'll save my life and i'm like that's that sounds asinine how could that possibly happen i know i mean explain why and then you realize whatever i did i'm lucky because i was able to inadvertently help this person and it is i get emotional too i mean i'm very emotional about this stuff but um it is it's but but i realized what a big impact films and various actors had on me as a kid do you do have that well going to see by by birdie and seen Anne Margaret. Believe it or not, I go, that's what I want to be. I just want to be like, Anne Margaret, you know. Oh, my God. Biggest crush on her. And oh, my God, she was so great.

Wasn't she? Oh, my God. And she still is. She's alive and she's wonderful. But that movie, and then Viva, Viva Las Vegas with Elvis and Ann Margaret changed my life. It changed the complete trajectory of my life. And who was I reading the other? Oh, yeah, I was reading RuPaul's autobiography. And he was talking about how a couple movies completely got into his head, gave him this idea that he was going to be this or that. And I was watching Arnold Schwarzenegger's documentary. Did you see it?

Yeah. Pretty damn amazing, huh? It was amazing, yeah. Wow. But do you remember how he went and saw Hercules? Yes. And he saw that guy. I don't know who that actor was.

Yeah. And that was it. Yeah, I want to be him. I want to be him. I want to be him. I want to be Hercules. I don't think I ever. watch something and thought, I mean, maybe later I started to think, I sort of tried to emulate

Gary Oldman when I started getting acting in college and stuff. And I grew my hair long. Good person to emulate. And I would watch everything he did and read everything. He had pictures of Gary Oldman and just like wanted to like be Gary Oldman, you know. But no film or television show made you go, when you were a little kid made you go, that's what I want to do. Or I want to be like them. It was too big, you know, I think my dreams just felt like, almost impossible growing up so when i watched empire strikes back or i watched back to the future i looked at these things and i just remember enjoying them and i hope but i don't remember going i want to do that i want to be that i want to it just felt too big for me and i grew up in a really small town and i

you know i was smallville yes but i was small and i didn't get girls and i wasn't you know i i just didn't imagine you should have watched turkulee yeah i should have watched turkulee i think all of a sudden i knew i was sort of social a little bit like i tried i was i was out there i was eccentric maybe i was really but but i remember i just i did a play and the teacher forced me to audition and when i did that i was the nervous wreck and i almost i couldn't believe it was so scary but then the applause and the attention. Ah, there you go. And that's what finally interested me.

I thought this is allowing me to feel like I'm part of something, like I am good at something. And so I think I did it because I was good at it and that's why I did it because I wasn't getting that validation at home. I wasn't getting that so instant gratification is what I. that's a good reason to do it I had a good dose of that that's not good because it catches up to you well that's true too then when they're not

like kissing your ass you're like oh what's the matter where did everybody go I gotta tell you this wacky story when I was like three years old my parents put me up my dad put me up on a table at a Greek restaurant outside of Randolph

Kansas and I danced and I sang how much is that doggy in the window and people threw coins on the table. I mean, and I was, I think right then I was the, yeah, baby, okay, I can do this and I get money. Yeah. It was fantastic. I honestly think I got that in my little head.

I remember in college, my best friend Tom would. Don't let me keep you awake. No, he's fine. He's just trying to have to sneeze. No, but my best friend Tom, I'd be at a party. in college. And he'd go, hey, this guy does impressions, man. He's really funny. Listen to these impressions. And I remember having like a like a bucket like I go, hey, tips. You know, I'd do an impression of Rodney Dangerfield or or a fire marshal bill or Nicholson or something. And they would

throw dollars in and I'd make like 20 bucks. Just doing impressions. Yeah. And, uh, but you need a cheerleader along the way. You need someone who believes in you because a lot of times we don't really believe in ourselves until someone else believes in us. That's true. That's true. And did you feel like there was someone in your life that really believed in you and said, hey, I got your back. I want to, I know you can do this. Yeah. It's crazy.

My family certainly didn't. They thought it was out of my mind, you know. I mean, we're in the small town in Kansas. You know, it's like, oh, yeah, you're going to be, we were in smallville also. That's funny. I didn't see you there. But we, but it was like I'm dreaming. I'm maybe they thought I was insane or something.

Yeah. But my art teacher in high school, his name was Mr. Samuelson. And he was an old guy, really old. He had retired, but they brought him back to teach art. And it's probably almost not quite as old as me. Now, but he is the one who told me, if you want to do this, just do it. Just do it. And I go, what do you mean? Just do it. He goes, just do it. He had the whole Nike slogan down before they came out with it. But he really did. I said, I want to be a, he said, what do you got to do after high school? I said, I want to be a showgirl in Las Vegas, which, you know, my parents said, you're not pretty enough, you're not tall enough, you know, you can't do that. They have to be a good dancer. You have to, you know. That's horrible to hear. Yeah, no, they were, you know.

How old were you? Oh, this was all from like, you know, high school years. So, yeah, 15, 16, 17. Right. And Mr. Samuelson. who later I found out was gay. Good for him. See?

The gay man. The gay man's my own life, but I'm telling you. But he just told me, I can do it. He said, don't let that stop you. Don't let this stop you. Just forge your head if that's what you want to do. And it was the first time anybody had told me that if you want to do something, you can do it.

I don't know. Everybody else said, ah, you're crazy. You know, out of your mind. But when people say you can do it. you have got to really it's amazing how people think things just happen and you know oh if you're you have to commit to something you do and you have to work hard you worked hard well well you're not going to believe what i did it in this case it just happened i i like what well fuck you dreamed it i know thank you i went on a vacation with my mom and dad on on uh like this in the book spring break

yeah yeah and we were going to to California, to Chino to visit my cousins. And we stopped in Las Vegas. I begged and pleaded with my parents to take me to like a big tits and feather show, you know, that's a miracle. And because I had seen that in Viva Las Vegas, the movie. So I begged them to go in. And they said, but you know, you're only 17. And I said, well, you know, I dressed up. I put a wiglet on. I pat at my boobs. I dressed really sexy. Put a ton of makeup. have eyelashes, everything on, and went with them to see this show, Casino Day Prairie at the Dune's Hotel. And I sat down, and the Major D came over and said, are you a show girl? And I said,

oh my God, no. And I started freaking out because I thought they're going to bust me. I'm here drinking in glasses champagne with my mom and dad. And, you know, I'm underage. I had a fake ID that I had made. And your parents let you use it? Yeah, I begged. I pleaded, you know, to go to the show. So all of a sudden, the dance captain, this woman named Fluffy, comes out and asks me if I would go backstage puts on a record, has me dance and says, would you like to be

in the show? We're starting auditions tomorrow morning for the new show Viva LeVille Girls. What? We've Las Vegas. Vilae Girls. That doesn't happen anymore. I know. And it did happen. And then my parents drugged me

screaming and crying back to Colorado. We had moved to Colorado by the and wouldn't let me do it. And I made their life a living hell, a living hell for the next three or four months before I graduated. And they finally signed this document that said I could do it. They had to sign off on me. And so they let you in later?

No, it was that the rehearsals were starting in the summer. And I had to finish high school. And the second I finished, I hopped in my little red firebird and headed to Vegas and had a job. Is that crazy? So it did just happen to you. I did. I dreamed it. I dreamed it. You know, what's funny is I, I get that. There was an instance where in my college, Western Kentucky University in Bowling Green, Kentucky, which I loved. They said there's this guy, Leo Bermester. He was in the abyss. Broadway. He went to Western. He's coming and he wants to hear some monologues. So the seniors are going to get to do some monologues, just like seven. But I was a junior. So were you enacting all that drama classes? And I was a junior and I went to the head of the department.

I said, I want to give a monologue. He's like, well, you're not a graduating senior. And I go, I flipped out. I was like, you have to let me because in my head, I swear to God, I remember, go, Leo's going to come down. I'm going to give a monologue. He's going like, this kid's got it. He is going to bring me to New York.

That's what I thought. And I really believed it. I really believed that. He is going to see me. And he is going to, and I'm telling you, this is how it happened. they agreed i was the last one to go in class leo after the monologue said come here i want you to do it again but i want you to do it like this and i did it again then he goes come here and now the class is getting restless because no one's gone more than once okay and again i did it five

times i'm crying he has me crying oh my god and the class leaves and he grabs me and he says you've got it you just keep working wow you've got it you've got it it's right here in your heart it's in your heart that's a game changer i haven't told that story and then dr combs who is our teacher later on said to me i don't know what he saw on you but that leo bermister really uh thought you had it you were the only one you mentioned and leo left a message on my recorder at my apartment in college and said later on he said hey it's leo bermister um i talked to you to my agent about you is there any way you can get to new york and meet them wow and i flew to new york and i met them but i had to finish i had to finish college and they said see us afterwards and then i went to

them after that and uh i couldn't get a call back because it was another year so they never called me but anyway it worked up but that gave me yeah the whole jumping off point but what you're saying is like if you see it, if you really believe it and really, it's amazing how shit can happen. I swear. And I think the older you get, you don't see it as much. I think you don't. I think when you're a kid, you're still dreaming. You're allowed to dream.

You're, you know, I can't tell you how many times things like that happen to me. I mean, Elvis, meeting Elvis and ending up with him changing the entire trajectory of my life. Oh, this is it, the day you finally ask for that big promotion. You're in front of your mirror with your Starbucks coffee. Be confident. Assertive. Remember eye contact, but also remember to blink. Smile, but not too much.

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his only real talent, he's tooting. He makes his teeth sound like everything you hear in everyday life. So little Michael loved Halloween, but nothing frightened his friends more than when Michael would stink up a good scare. Can you hear that? Oh, I heard it. It is a lovely story, and it's beautifully illustrated by my friend Heath and Simon Schuster's putting it out. It's going to be in tons of

bookstores and available on Amazon. I'm so proud of it. Where'd you meet him? And I did not sleep with him. I went to saw his show. Did you kiss him? I did. I had. I had. Was it a good kiss? Yeah, it was fantastic. Was it tongue? Oh, my God, yes. We were kind of making out the whole evening.

God. But I was also underage. People go, why didn't you sleep in them? First of all, I was a virgin. He was. How old were you? He was 17. 17.

Were you about to be 18? Yes, very close. Very close. Very close. It was almost September. It was like a couple weeks. In those days, nobody even winked at it, right? Oh, they did.

Oh, they did. Elvis was surrounded with guys who were telling him, you do this, you do that. They're not going to let him go. But then you have a fake ID? Yeah, but that, you know, no, that's not going to work there. They don't ask for your ID before they sleep. How old was he at the time? He was young.

He was gorgeous. I think 34. 34. He had just done that big special on TV where he wore the black leather jacket and a black leather pants. If I could dream of a better land. I love that. Hey, that's good. Thanks.

Yeah. So anyway, but I had thought about, I'm going to meet Elvis. I'm going to be with Elvis. and they end up meeting Elvis hanging out with him for a whole entire night he tells me I need to get out of Vegas he tells me you do not want to stay here and be

the oldest showgirl in Las Vegas you know I'm I told him I'm the youngest show girl in Las Vegas right now and he said how old are you I said 70 and so that was a big yeah anyway so but we just talked all night he was fantastic

super sweet super nice we sang on the piano know he said you have a nice voice why don't why don't you sing why don't you go get a gig somewhere singing i was like really i only ever sang in choir in school and he said yeah just get the hell out of Vegas you should not be here you're too young it's a dead end job he goes i know a lot of showgirls here after their career you know there's nothing much done did he give you his number no no that was that it was a one night bye bye can you still i know this sounds like a stupid question but i have a feeling can you still hear his voice talking to you yeah i suppose if i

lay there and relax can you still hear him talking to you yeah probably because i probably would have remembered that like i go hey you got to just uh you just got to go with it you got with your heart but you can't stay here all these old chokeroles i mean right yeah kind of like that he was kind of he was very he was very kind of a young young you have great lips Oh, my God, Michael. Anyway, it did change my life because I really would have been the oldest show girl in Las Vegas right now, 72. Damn. But I thought, I'm going to listen to Elvis. I'm getting the hell out of here. And I started taking singing lessons.

And I got a singing gig in Vegas in my show. And then when my contract was up, I mean, I thought I was going to stay there the rest of my life because I had made it to the big time. That was it. I'm done. and I ended up leaving and moving to Europe and getting in a band. All this is in the book. Yes, all on there. Yours, Cruely, Elvira.

Yes. Best selling New York Times. Yes. Did you have a roleplay behind closed doors in your Elvira outfit for anybody, any guy? No, that's a very sad thing. People ask me that never, because I didn't not want to fuck up my wig. Is that the only reason? Yeah.

What if they got you another wig that? kind of looked like it. I had too much. My wig was too good. It took too much money to style. I could not fuck it up. Did you look at yourself from the outside in and say, that's a fucking sexy character I created? Yeah, probably at some time. I think of it as more goofy. It is, but that's what's great about her. She doesn't take herself seriously. She's sexy because she's goofy and doesn't, you know what I mean? Just kind of, it was like flirty and fun. Yeah. You know where I honestly think that whole thing started, and I think I got it from there was when I was a showgirl in Vegas. I'm all covered head to toe and feathers and everything, but of course, my

boobs are hanging out. I've got everything else is covered, pretty much, you know. But I'm dancing around the stage, and they had a number. I wore glasses then, really, really thick glasses. I was so damn blind. You couldn't believe. So, of course, when I was a showgirl, I couldn't wear glasses. Back then, they only had hard contact lenses, and they would kill me because I'd have two or three pairs of eyelashes on the top, two pairs on the bottom, and the I makeup would just kill me, kill me, awful. So I didn't wear glasses. So when I was in rehearsals, I kept running into the wall and falling off the stage and things like that. And they built a number around me, where I came out and danced around with a male singer, and I ran into the curtains and got all wrapped,

up in them. People laughed. And people died laughing. I went, I walked towards the front of the stage and he would just grab me back the second before I stepped off of it. And it became like a big number in the show that people really, really love. And I saw that I was being sexy, but I was acting like a dork, you know, so. And that's where it originated. I think it might have, you know, a combination of sexy and stupid. I don't, or I don't know if it was stupid, but just slapstick. When you first started doing it, you were probably getting pennies. like you weren't they weren't paying you a lot oh no right no when i started elvira 350 a week before tax you know really yeah and when did you know all right they're going to pay

because i'm this is big well they didn't want to pay i was number one show on this very small station right down here in hollywood it was khj khj yeah it's now kk cow you know they took them over years ago um but they didn't have a lot of money but my show began to be the biggest thing on there. There are other shows for like Jack Lillane. Remember him? Oh, yeah. Working out guy. He was adult. And Meredith McRae doing something about around town or something. And so duh, number one show. It doesn't take much. But, so I knew that money was coming in. So we asked for more money and they said, no, they couldn't pay me anymore. So we asked for the rights to start a fan club. And then the next contract came up, we asked for more money.

they wouldn't pay so we asked for the rights to do to make t-shirts so basically forever merchandising and then every time something would come up we'd ask for more rights

and pretty soon they didn't realize it but I had all the rights I had all the rights and then that was that then I started working my own deals isn't that amazing yeah

and you were the two finalists on Gilligan's Island I didn't know that yeah it was so bizarre. The girl that was the other finalist was right, live right next door to me, Judy Baldwin. It was, I mean, in the whole city, wouldn't it be bizarre if your next door neighbor was up against you. Yeah. It was weird. But yeah, they, and they ended up picking, going with a girl that neither of us. And we were, ah, we did these grueling, grueling auditions where one was a singing

audition, one was an acting one, one was a dancing one of them. Anyway. Are you glad you didn't get it? Oh, my God. Thank God. If I would have gotten it. It would have been a different. It would have been a one-time thing. That would have been it. Shot it, you know, it's going to be the kind of like a pilot for the, for a whole new Gilling Asylum, but it didn't take off. And I would have missed the Elvira audition. So that would have been that.

And you really dated Robert De Niro. I did. Yeah. I don't know if you want to say dated, but I went out with him one night. Was it weird? It was fantastic. Really? Yeah.

I'm going to go get some tea. I'm trying to eat spaghetti. That's a fantastic face. I hope. I hope people see that. You want to get some pasta? I don't know. He had just done that movie, bang the drum slowly.

Yeah. And he was just getting ready. I mean, when I met him, he's sitting there telling me, oh, my God, I just got this part. I'm going to be working with Marlon fucking Brando. And he was just losing his mind. Godfather. You know, yeah. And it was just a fun night.

It was just a super fun night. He was awesome, really cute and fun, and that was it. It was bye-bye. He went back to New York. I was here in L.A. Yeah. God. I know, look, I know on a downer, but you were really close friends with Paul Rubens.

Yeah, really close. And that had to, that hit you hard? Really hard. Still hit me hard. It's like I talked to Paul every couple of days, at least for the hours on the phone. It was really crazy. He'd call late at night. I'd go, ah, I called him peewee, and he called me home.

fire. I'd go, pee-wee, pee-wee. It's 10.30. I'm going to bed. And he's going, no, no, I just have a story to tell you. I swear, it'll only take about an hour and a half. Just hold on. You just have to tell you something really quick. And I go, no, Paul. And then he'd start talking. And then, like, an hour would pass. And I'd be crying. I'd be laughing so hard. I'd just be freaking dying. He always made you laugh. Always made me laugh. Although we went through some really hard times with his health because for the prior five or six years, he'd gotten different kinds of cancer. And so sometimes he'd call me and go, oh, my God, and I was happening. And he'd cry, I'd cry, it would be, but he bounced back like crazy.

I didn't think he was ever going to die from it. I really didn't because he would just bounce back and be perfect again. Yeah. It was amazing. And then it would metastasize into something else, and that's how, you know, kept going. Yeah. so that sucks really sucks really sucks it's having peevee die is like having Santa Claus die or something it's like a person you don't think will ever die I know

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I don't know night of living dead I think I did it five or six times it was just such a freaking brilliant movie and it had so many funny things that you could make fun of. But it was a brilliant movie. Dana asked, what is the most annoying question people ask you over and over that I probably already asked you? The one you just asked me now. Roll play? Role play? Me? No. No, it wasn't the role play thing when you're Elviraaf, the one that people ask the most? Yeah, no, they all, really in the beginning, they'd ask, are your boobs real? That is honestly what they would ask all the time in the beginning. I mean, it's like, you know.

And what do you say? Well, they'd say, are they real? And I'd go, of course my fingernails are real. Oh. I don't know, something like that. God, I don't know. Thankfully, that stuff. I'm going to give you this for your dog. This is my new product. Rosie's puppy fresh breath. Oh. Oh, fantastic. My dog needs that. It just got out of puppy breath and to adult dog's breath. That's why I made that. It's like you just put it. Yeah, it's mine, Rosie. Rosie is with my dogs. You're kidding. Oh, my God. Yeah, so you just put a cap full in your dog's water and it's odorless and tasteless. Cheap plug, but I had to do it. So give it to your dogs. I will. It's for you. I love it. I love it. And last but not least, might take some too. Well, you sign my Elvira Funko. Absolutely. Okay, you have a good pen there. Yeah, you have to put you Michael. I have mine.

She has hers, and she has her puppy fresh breath. Isn't that funny, you know, there's a funny star with Peewee one birthday. We always had birthday together and he'd invite around 10 or 12 people. And we're all sitting at the table and one person says to Paul, oh, wow, you just got a like a Maccat, you know, like a statue of you. That must be so awesome. I mean, who at this table can say they have a macket of themselves. And everybody's hand went up except for like two guys. It was like nine people there, you know, had their own action figure or macket.

People are, you know. So bizarre. So it's like you and me. Look at that. Let's trade these. What? The statue. I know.

That is fantastic. Santiago made that. Yeah, like a fan made that and he's awesome. Oh, really? Just a one-off thing? Yeah, he made that. And he made one for Tom of Clark Kent. That's fantastic.

Yeah. What's your favorite horror movie of all time? Oh, Christ of all time. Well, yeah, I'm going back to, again, the scariest. Well, okay, the first one I ever saw was House on Honodale as a kid, and that just got me 100% into horror. That's why I loved him so much. So that's like my favorite because it sort of changed my whole life, you know. Scariest, I'm still going to go with The Exorcist. I know people say stupid.

Look right there. Linda Blair signed it. I sat next to Linda Blair at The Exorcist and I thought I was going to freaking jump out of my skin. And it was that director's cut where she walked like a crab, you know, down the stairs upside down. Yes. And I was. I was there. I was there.

I was there. This is like 1998, 99. You must have been only 12 years old. You were like 12 or 13? No, wait. But wasn't this like 99 when they did a read? Yeah. I'm 52.

I was I was older than that. Okay. Just the power of Christ to compare you. Yeah. It was like a fundraiser for a animal rights thing. or something, but yeah, I sat right next to Linda, and I was absolutely scared out of my mind. I didn't, I don't know, it was really creepy. My friend Jason, Patrick, name drop.

Yeah. His dad is the lead priest. You're kidding. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I didn't know that. Father Marin.

Good Lord. That was a scary damn movie. I don't think it'll ever be. The scariest part of that movie is when he's sitting next to her. And all of a sudden. the drawer opens and he goes yeah do that again and she looks at him goes in time no do it now in time wow you remember that oh you speak latin quad nomin me yes le plume de batant yeah i remember all that weird shit really yeah i can't remember

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