Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum - CHANCE PERDOMO: Emulating Tom Cruise, The Boys Spin-off Expectations & Leaving Law School to Act

Episode Date: April 16, 2024

ℹ️ I really connected with Chance Perdomo and was so saddened by his passing. I chose to air this episode in honor of him and for folks to see what a great person he was... Chance Perdomo (Gen V, Chilling Adventures of Sabrina) joins us this week to share his early experience with success on both sides of the pond and what sort of nerves and expectations come with joining beloved franchises like Sabrina and The Boys. Chance is open about his gratitude for the tough love given by his single mother and the paternal chip on his shoulder that drove him to prove himself as an actor. We also talk about the dangers of emulating Tom Cruise, leaving law school for a one year hiatus as an actor, and staying busy for sanity. Thank you to our sponsors: 🦰 Nutrafol: https://nutrafol.com + "inside" 🛍️ Shopify: https://shopify.com/inside 🚀 Rocket Money: https://rocketmoney.com/inside ❤️ Betterhelp: https://betterhelp.com/inside __________________________________________________ 💖 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/insideofyou 👕 Inside Of You Merch: https://store.insideofyoupodcast.com/ __________________________________________________ Watch or listen to more episodes! 📺 https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/show __________________________________________________ Follow us online! 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🤣 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@insideofyou_podcast 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/insideofyoupodcast/ 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/insideofyoupod 🌐 Website: https://www.insideofyoupodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is a very special episode. We were absolutely shocked to hear that Chance Bredelmo passed away a few weeks ago. And it hit me like, it was hard to believe that this happened. He was a young man, talented man, and such a great guy. And we had such a conversation, great conversation. And we were texting afterwards. And when you hear about these things, Ryan, it's, you know, it just felt extra painful being that we connected and we talked about a lot of things in life.

And it just, it's so unexpected. And, you know, I thought about not airing this episode. And then it occurred to me that it was such a beautiful conversation and it was chances, as he said, his first podcast. And, you know, I felt like I wanted people. people to hear what a great guy he was and how sweet and charming and how sad it really is to see him go. And that's why I decided to air this podcast and, you know, to honor him, to honor chance. And it's tragic. I've never had to do this before. I didn't know how to do this.

I just I just couldn't believe it Ryan it's it's just and I think you were the one who text me yeah it I saw it just posted online and you just like you just like I had to like I made sure to check like a bunch of just places just like to make sure there's no way like just there's no way he was just he was here full of life he was sitting right here sitting right here and not like i mean also just he's the youngest person i think we've had one of the youngest talked to and it's just because that that that's one of those things that just doesn't factor into your just like outlook on life i mean we've well we yeah we talk about mental health on this uh and mental health includes dealing with loss and that's one of the reasons also i wanted

is just because there's so many people that you know deal with tragic things that happen in their lives and loss and how you deal with it. And I can't imagine how his family is feeling. And the only thing I could think about was celebrating him, was celebrating our time that we, our brief time that we had together. I remember walking him outside to his rental car and having some laughs and giving each other a hug. And he was just so friendly. And that energy he had, you know, it's just, I just, it's unimaginable. And, you know, I pray for him and his family. And, you know, I pray for him and his family and i think about him every day every day since i heard the news and um you know i called his publicists i messaged them and you know i was i wasn't going to air it if they had

a issue with it or anything i it just but um you know i wanted people to hear hear him open up and talk about you know his life and yeah rest in peace my friend rest in peace chants Perdomo and all my love to your family and your friends and let's play the tape. Let's get inside of Chance Perdomo. It's my point of you. You're listening to Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum. Inside of You with Michael Rosenbaum was not recorded in front of a live studio. audience. This is the first time I've had a guest who, who first of all, you sleep, you never do this, but you slept through your alarm clock. I did. I did. I have to give you shit about that.

No, please. You need to. I've been on the, uh, training for GenV season two. It's been kicking my ass, dude. You've been trained. Do you, so you, how many, how often do you train? I'm training, uh, six days a week. Sometimes, sometimes to a day, depending on how I feel. Why, do you have to have your shirt off a lot? Well, the plan is to come back looking like a superhero because the first season, all shit breaks loose in the college. And so now, you know, the characters are in the real world. So I think it's superhero time. Really? At least that's the plan. I got to meet with the showrunner and see if that aligns with it. But I've been training for months just in case. But don't they put on those suits? Don't they give you like stuff to make you look big?

We don't have suits yet. I know, I know some of the guys from the boys proper. They were talking about, you know, they were training before and then they were like, hey, you know, you can just ask them to pat up the suit. But we don't have that option yet. So you've got to just get muscular. I have to at least appear muscular. How much have you gained? How many, how much weight? So I was, I've been the heaviest I've ever been. I'm hovering between like 199 and 205 and it fluctuates like, you know. That's solid. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. So that's solid because you're what, 510 511 we'll go 510 we'll go 510 because i mean yeah because you look solid thank you now is is it hard do you have to eat a lot more protein do you have to take care of yourself more you have to

sleep more for all the exercise you're doing oh yeah a lot of sleep a lot of work a lot of working out a lot of a lot of eating but now we're essentially trying to maintain the size but kind of recomposition right so lower the body fat but maintain whatever muscle we've built so I am eating just ridiculous amounts of protein. What do you eat when you wake up? I wake up. I have four to eight eggs. I'll have one of these shakes.

I'll then hit the gym, have a protein smoothie, come back, have a steak, maybe half of rotissory chicken, and then finish it later. But are you one of those guys that one of those actors, not one of those guys? You're one of those guys. I didn't mean like that. I meant like, are you one of those dudes? Are you one of those people that have to always be. busy have to be doing something or you'll go crazy uh yeah for sure i think um when the when the

outside world is chaotic the inside world is calm and when the inside world is calm inside is chaotic so you know i quite like being on the road in the circus you know out and about the pressure i feel most at home between action and cut right so it just kind of depends but uh i take after my mother. My mother is a very much a, oh, kind of, kind of, kind of person. Get up, go. Yeah. So, she's a very nurturing, lovely Latina lady. But at the same time, you know, if you're not on your shit, it's, you know, it's get the fuck up. Don't be a pussy. Let's go. And I'm like, can I get a hug, mom? She's like, yeah, then fucking go. So, so my whole life. So, so I. She raised you. Yeah, yeah. So she raised me, um, uh, the man that raised me as well.

My dad, Lars, in England. But yeah, my mom's... Is he your biological father? No, no. So I only started to get to know my biological father, you know, properly in later years. And I was a little apprehensive because it was like I still had the chip on my shoulder. And the chip was what was fueling me a lot of the time. You know, I'm going to become an actor and I'm going to make the world love me.

Why? Because did you love me? You know, and then, you know, we started communicating after. you know the show start picking up and the recognition happens so I was suspicious but then I went it was like 2018 I went and uh he's in the middle of nowhere glendora uh well I don't want to say middle of nowhere if you live in glendora but to me coming coming out was the middle of nowhere and and a dear friend of mine at the time Gavin shout out thank you drove us like three hours out to to go to go see him um knocked on his door and then the moment we opened the door

we both just started crying. You weren't expecting that. No, I wasn't. You know, I cried as a boy, as a man, and everything in between. And I didn't go for me. I went for him. But I think ironically, because of that, I got quite a bit out of that by just listening and hearing. And as I get older, I understand things.

I'm okay, I get the situation. Mom's side, biological father's side. And then the truth. Okay, I can kind of see what's going on. Yeah. But and then after that, I didn't know how to do anything because I was like, where's my fuel gone? I couldn't do my lines.

I couldn't work out. I couldn't like function. Really? Yeah. There was so much of that fuel was kind of, I think, rooted somewhere in that kind of chip. Proving yourself and saying that I'm good enough, thinking that, you know, all these things fighting. You know, it's like. Oh, for sure.

Yeah. So, yeah, that's going to be difficult to make that decision to go see your dad to sort of want to. I mean, I guess every kid who's like, so he wasn't around when you were growing up. No, but I did, I did have, I did have, you know. my whole life too very awesome father figures i call uh you know one pops and one dad you know uh pops is over in antioch in uh here in california and he uh he's i i call him colloquially samurai pops this guy he is the highest ranking um uh batohutsu so samurai sword art um uh black guy there's ever been the only guy who was higher than him was an actual black samurai

who was a slave in feudal japan era and he now outranks him and he's he's like he's like savant with martial arts he's got like blackbell and like 12 different martial arts he's the kind of guy that doesn't get stressed out but anything no he does well he does get stressed out when he's on the phone to like if he's got like a refrigerator delivery you're gone wrong that that's the only time i've kind of because it's nonsense yeah yeah it's nonsense is very stoic regular you know regimented in his approach and so i think i get a when i'm at work i get a lot of that from him yeah but uh i can also say that when the tiny nuisances come they get me too yeah i mean when you're crying with your dad that that that's that's a that's a

visual for sure did was it something that he kind of told you the story and and said the things that you wanted to hear and then i'm sorry son did he ever like i think it was more it wasn't for me but it was things that he was just like of course those things were said it was just coming out just coming out years or a couple decades worth of things just to blah blah blah and i just sat and listen man it was it was beautiful and now you talk yeah yeah yeah you know i might go see him um i might go see him i might go do a drive out say what's up um what does your mom think about all that my mom she didn't like it at first did she she was okay with it because i was already older by then right but i did grow up with a sense of like you know and it's understandable right but it's you know

I don't think it's on purpose, but there is like an emotional sense of vitriol. I would say maybe that's too strong, but kind of like, no, this kid is my kid. You know, I raised them and these other two dudes raised them like, this is my kid. Yeah. So there was a degree of that, but, you know, it's kind of also like, you know, it's all right. I'm going there for him. I'm going there for me too. I need to know, you know, similar quirks and things that come from me.

I go, oh, I see where it comes from now. I had no idea how hereditary certain behaviors were, how certain facial expressions, the way I chew. I'm like, okay, wow, my goodness. There are certain learned behaviors that you get from, you know, everything, but you kind of go, I see where I get all of that from. Right. Yeah, yeah. But he's never, like, asked you for anything. No, no, no, no.

See? Which is great. Because if that happened, then you're like, oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was, you know. Well, that's beautiful. Yeah.

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my whole life. I am a firm believer. Well, first and foremost, I'm a firm believer that everyone is exactly who they're supposed to be. And, you know, if you imagine yourself like a pool of coins, they're on heads and tails. And each coin is an aspect of yourself, a personality quirk, you know, something to about you. You could either shame or reprimand yourself over and over again to no avail, or you could figure out the best and most efficient way to turn that tails onto a head. And you flip each coin. And the more coins that you flip, the more you go, oh, I was just utilizing what I have and who I am, you know, in not the most productive avenue. But if I do it over here, it's fine. If I'm disruptive in class, if I'm a class clown, if I don't

like what's going on here, okay, well, maybe they'll, you know, maybe they medicate you. Maybe, you know, you don't excel in yourself. Maybe you don't develop and you stay on tails. Or maybe you find acting. Or maybe you go and you decide to, you like to work with your hands. and suddenly your life's changed and it's on heads. So I know my whole life I've wanted to do two things that's never changed. I was a toddler. And I said to my mom, I said, I wanted to be on Barney, which was the toddler's way of saying, I want to be an actor.

I want to be there, Mom. I want to be on Barney. This was in North Carolina. So I had an accent. I want to be on Barney. So this was before England. Yeah, way before. I was like, Ma, I want to be on Barney.

And then. There you go. I was there. Yeah. how my name's chance that's how I used to sound on it and then became chance and how you know something you went from chance to chance yeah it just depends like the accent comes and goes but I uh and then I wanted to be and I said and she was like how the fuck does a two-year-old know this I said I wanted to be the first black president of United States of

America um I got beaten to that obviously but um but my whole life good aspiration those are some and she was like what how old do you and so I had imaginary friend and I would talk, apparently I talked politics with my imaginary friend and it would freak them out. And I, my whole life have gone those two avenues. I was studying to get my law degree and doing acting at the same time. You know, I figured, you know, it's, if you want to do that later in life, which I do, you know, you have, you know, it takes, you have to be taken seriously and to have a degree that gives you, whether you practice or not having a Jewish prudential understanding of the world, they'll be like, okay, he kind of knows how society's working.

could just be a lawyer in a movie you don't really need to go become a lawyer unless that's what you want to do well it helps with the contracts a lot yeah you don't need a lawyer right well i do i do but you wouldn't sure i'll i'll i'll have long conversations with my lawyer and he or sometimes he'll be like actually no that's that's right i was going to explain it to you but okay no you understand okay great um but it was actually i got my first gig and it was like three lines on this now canceled television's program. It was like a period piece. It's called Hetty feather. Shout out BBC. Hetty feather. That's right. Hetty feather. Hetty feather. It was like three days of shooting for like these three lines. And they would have coincided with my first year, uh, law exams.

And so I was going to do these three lines or I was going to do my law exam. So I dropped out of university. Uh, and for three lines. Yep. I said, I said, mom, you know, what should I do? And she was like, you know, if you're going to do it, fucking do it. Right. But don't be a bitch about it. almost verbatim give it that's your mom she says she like that she goes don't be a bitch about oh no we we we talk like we're bros and she's like give it a hundred and fucking percent i don't want to hear you crying about it if you're going to do it go fucking do it all right cool so i did it got the street lines i was like i'm an actor now mom we've done it we're here you know oh it's amazing look this this check came through these checks are coming through awesome and then

the show got canceled they expanded my role they expanded it episode upon episode and then I got canceled. I forgot his name, though. And for a year and a half, crickets. And that law degree was looking real tasty, real tasty, you know. But then I went to study at identity school of acting and, you know, part-time school and then used some of their practices and really helped me. Then I started booking back to back to back until I got killed by my debt, which is the movie I did just before doing Sabrina. That looks intense. It was one of the most creative, fulfilling experiences in my life. Yeah.

To this day. You got a nomination for a BAFTA for that? Yeah, yeah. The project won a BAFTA. I lost mine to Benedict Cumberbatch, but he did. Son of a bitch. Doesn't he have enough awards. But he did let me hold his BAFTA at the after party.

Not a euphemism. But he was a good guy. We talked philosophy and it was good to kind of see being on the right path. But that really put you on the map. It was, yeah. Yeah. So it happened at the same time. So my one day off, because it was so heavy, and I was kind of toying with method at that time. And it was, the subject matter was so dark that I just wanted to break. And so my one day off, they said, hey, there's this audition. It's much, much lighter. And it was for Sabrina, for Ambrose. And I remember at the time, they were going to do it rated R. So it was cursing. So it was like, you're going to, you know, you're going to be part of the church of the motherfucking night and all that kind of. And They took the cursing down, but I was like, this was great. So I auditioned for it.

And then went back to the film. They told me I was a favorite. Then we finished filming. I'm sick as a dog. And then they fly me out, do the screen test, then come back. And then you got it, kid. You're going to go over to Vancouver in a couple months for 10 months. And then we do that.

Sabrina kicks off. Those crazy numbers for Netflix. Was that the one with? Kiernan Shipka. Yeah, who else was in that? Kiernan Shipka, Jas Sinclair, who I'm with now on Gen V, Gavin Leatherwood. Ross wasn't on that? Ross Lynch.

Ross, I know Ross, yeah. Your buddy's a Ross? I play hockey with Ross. You play hockey? Yeah, I love Ross. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a good dude. He is.

He's a very good dude. Talented. He's always busy, but, you know, every now and then I try and hang out. Yeah. So that show became really popular. Yeah. And at the same time that that came out, Kibon, my deck came out and had the nominations too.

so it was like just went both sides of the pond just exploded and what's your mom say to you um get up keep doing it essentially essentially yeah she doesn't say chance i really love you i'm so proud of you she does she does but when she does say it it has so much more weight because you know i'm exhausted lying on the floor and she's like now i'm proud of you you know yeah you know what why did um would you do something like sabrina again if they said we want to come back and we want to do something else with Sabrina. I would like to explore Ambrose's story because his backstory is really good. So, you know, because his, his backstory was that he tried to blow up the Vatican, you know, a few decades prior to Sabrina. And that's why he was on house arrest. So I think maybe

seeing the aftermath of, of that maybe in present day or why he did that, um, going back in time. I think it works or. So you're saying yes. I would. Yeah, yeah, I've thought about it. Or Sabrina being in a, now, now that she's officially like dead in the canon, I would, yeah, go back and try and save my cousin. You know, there's some stuff there for sure. Yeah. But Gen V was that, I bet you audition more than once for that. No, I did an audition over Zoom.

Audition over Zoom. Because, you know, everything after COVID just. So there are the producers and the director and you're like, all right, great. And you did somebody read it? with you? Uh, I think so. Oh, I had my friend, my friend Devante. Shout out Devante. He did it first. Hampton, no, I got to call them. He did the audition with me over Zoom. And then I got the callback. And then that was just the producers in the room, they had their own reader. And then after that, they said, great, can you come out to Toronto in like three weeks or three or four weeks?

Like, because it's yours? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, did you know the, the, the weight of all this stuff? Did it occur to you that you're doing a spinoff of one of the biggest shows out there, the boys? I don't think about it. Did you think about it? I... Like when your agent's called you, they're like, there's a spinoff called you, you're like, yes. I'm very, I like the content.

I'm very happy with the way the process goes, but, you know, I tend not to think of things until they've either happened or the long in the rearview mirror, then I process things. I think that's the way I kind of process, you know, stress in one of it. Because I think, you know, I've been fortunate enough to cut my teeth on kind of these, you know, bigger franchises. And so what? There's no time to think about your motions on the day, right? It's like, okay, we've got half an hour of daylight left. You know, every minute that we're not working or if you're sick or you're not in today is what?

Between every one to five minutes, there's $100,000 down the drain. Get your ass to fucking work. So I don't think about it. Now I just don't. So I think by the time that rolled around, I was like, great. I'll be happy once I'm in Toronto. I'll think about it for a bit, then it's back to work. Did you watch the boys?

I did. I was a massive fan. You were? Yeah. Before you got the role. Yeah, actually, touching on Sabrina real quick, I'd originally auditioned for Jughead Jones on Riverdale. And I didn't get that, but I was close. It was one of my first auditions.

I think it was between me and like three other people, or three or five. And then Roberto, the showrunner, who was the showrunner of that and Sabrina, remembered my audition and actually wrote Ambrose and me in mind that I had no idea. So that, that, that, it just, I just remembered that. But then in a similar way, I had auditioned for, for, for, for, for Huey on the boys. And I don't think I got close. But I remember reading and being like, I absolutely love everything about this. And what Seth Rogen producing is going to be a fucking awesome comedy, you know, they're going to push a ball to the wall. I'm going to, I'm going to watch this when it comes out. And I did it. And I was a massive fan. So I did let myself have that moment.

moment of like wow once we got it for sure right that's got to be a pretty good feeling when they're like come out to toronto when you're going to film this new series and you're working with we i had clancy brown on the show i've worked with him yeah yeah he's phenomenal he's a great guy um he did the crusty crab for his voice the crusty crab voice for us once he did yeah yeah i say money yeah can you do any impressions by the way do you any impressions anthony hopkins always said every actor should be able to do an impression i think i always do them but i don't wrap you know rattle off top of my head i don't know what to do but i quite like accents i can i can you do any can you do australian that's the one i struggle with yeah that's clio

i don't know i can't do a really good english accent unless like jump in like gary oldman i quite like irish i think i think talking like this a bit but that's a bit shit that's not bad right can you do it which one uh irish Oh, I'm after me lucky charms. After me lucky charms. I don't know if it's any good, but the word I liked, cards on the table. Cards on table. The car from school, put our cards in the table.

That's really good. That's good. But that's all you can say. I like, it's, you need, you need those words, though. You need, like. Right. You need to know what the rules are. I say your sheep's stealing hood and bastard.

I can't do that one. That was Scottish? Well, Scottish is more from the back here for it. Scottish is right there. Yeah, it's quite here. Yeah, right here. And if, like, my friend Dom, Dominic, listen to this Monaghan, he'd say it's fucking shite.

You're ruining it. Anyway, so we'll stop that. I did one just recently with an accent. We just finished one with, and it was so fun to dabble in comedy. Sean Williams, Scott, Rob Wrigal, myself, Johnny Simmons, just finished up in Alabama. And my character was DJ. And it was like, my name's DJ. Hey, I'm so ready.

Feel me in you, let's go. That was my accent the whole time, and I fucking loved it. You channeled back from one of you were living in a stage. I channeled back. I channeled back. Yeah. How was that? Is it out? No. So they're taking it to market right now. It's an EFM. And, you know, we'll see what the Bites says. I think it's an edit right now. I'm hopping off to New York for a bit in a week's time. And, you know, if Mike Dillauberty, the director's up there, you know, editing, you said, you know, come on through. So we'll see. I get to see some of the, you know, dailies and whatnot in the assembly. So in Gen V, you're kind of a good guy. And you're at this school, at least for now, we don't know what's going to happen. But there's some guy murdering people, like a serial killer or whatever. Right. Right.

There's some shady shit with Vort, the company, they're going down. And underneath their school, they're experimenting on folks, right? The season's out, we can say that. They're experimenting on folks. Yeah. Don't listen to this part if you haven't seen it. Right. Spoiler, disclaimer.

Yeah. And so he manages to escape. And at the same time, Golden Boy played by Patrick Schwarzenegger. who's, you know, bodies of my character, you know, he is having these hallucinations and he's acting erratically and he'll say, what's going on? He remembers that his brother exists and they were keeping him in the laboratories down underground and that he'd get his memory erased. And so then he tries to kill Clancy Brown's character. Yes, he does, which sets off the whole chain of events. And then, you know, my character has a choice. Do I want to, you know, keep going down

this road and discover and unravel the mystery as to what's going on why my best friend killed himself and find his brother or do I go let's just shut the fuck up do my meetings be the next golden boy be the next guy going up to the seven and I think episode one or two he decides I'm going to I have to keep investigating yeah to the ire of his parents and whatnot so he you know he's the reluctant hero he's the stoner reluctant hero who I think more has more of a conventional arc, right? Going from, you know, like, you know, yeah, Plato's reluctant, quote unquote, leader, right? Right.

It's thrust upon him so he decides to clean himself up to pursue his morals, pursue his goals. What are the creators, do the creators keep things close to the vest, or do they sort of like let you know that next season, you're going to be doing this? I have no idea what's happening next season. They don't tell you anything. No, so they told me going in what the arc would be for the first season. I think we're getting, we should, I should today get, I think, one or two scripts in my inbox. Right. And then I've got a meet being set with my showrunner while I'm in town.

And so we'll just go through all the stuff and she'll tell me everything. And, you know, but they're quite, they're quite great with like their open door policy. And, you know, if you have ideas or your characters and whatnot, you know, they're open to it all. Really, if you come up with a cool concept, and like, I think they'll listen to you. Yeah, so season one, Lizzie and I, you played a little cricket, we'd riff all the time, right? And we just love coming up with one-liners. And they use it? And they tone some of her, the one-liners down, but they go for it, right?

And I think her character is very much able to do that. So we were just riffing and they're like, what about this, what about this? And she would just see what's stuck. And then, but the big old penis idea, that wasn't the script, that was her. that was all her really as far as i'm aware that was all her and so she pitched it they loved it and then it became one of these great bombastic moments of that universe right so so you know that if they like it's collaborative i like sure usually creators or this is my way or the highway you know i don't want to i i love collaboration i love when i was i direct if somebody has an idea i don't care

who it is i'm like yeah that's great let's do it yeah we have time let's shoot that oh yeah oh yeah And that's why I love the one I just did, Batman, because it was like, here's the script. I'll get it one in the can the way it's supposed to be. Now I'm just fucking how bad at it, guys. That's when you have fun on set. Oh, yeah. And I would do comedy again. You know, to have someone like Sean William Scott or Rob Rigg will be like, dude, that was fucking funny.

You made me break like X amount of times. You just don't stop. I was like, wow, okay. So, you know, maybe hoping they, my character gets a bit more comedy on Gen B. We'll see. Bombas makes the most comfortable socks, underwear, and t-shirts. Warning, bombas are so absurdly comfortable you may throw out all your other clothes. Sorry, do we legally have to say that?

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happens then i'll get nervous you get nervous after what yeah what once i've done whatever it is and i get to think about it or you know uh mullered over yeah you don't want to right right but uh while it's happening i i don't tend to i tend to compartmentalize very well so you could memorize quickly yeah so i my process if we have a process is uh because t b lambs are always changing. I tend to just have a loose idea of what the words are, what the script is, and then come in and then by the time it's action, just, it's there somehow. The lines are there? Yeah. Or do you sort of like improvise? If they let me improvise, I'll improvise. So what I tried, what kind of did in Gen V is because,

you know, I have, I like to make my dialogue just kind of flow in, very kind of colloquial the way it kind of comes out, I'll ask them beforehand, because obviously the studio process, I've learned to be like, hey, beforehand, can I change this to this, can I make it this, can make it that? So that we have, you know, I have this kind of structure of how it's going to flow out my mouth. Great. If they're happy with it, fantastic. And that's my way around it. So it just kind of syncs that already, it's already catered to what of my character or my personal speaking pattern is. Right. But if I have to like hardcore memorize something and like in Sabrina, I struggle with it, no, this is the extra.

exposition, this is how it has to be, and this is how it's going to be. It can be many, many takes. I'm not getting it until this. And I learn until they kind of go, fuck it, we're wasting time. Say it the way you wanted to say it. And then they go, okay, no, that was actually good. And then next shot. Do you ever get intimidated by other actors, like with more experience or someone you like, oh my God, it's so-and-so? Does that ever get in your way or if it does, you kind it subsides quickly no because i really really love the craft and so if anything i get excited i'm like okay we're about to we're about to you know be in the in the flow state together we're about to riff with each other i hope you do something different i hope you hope i do something

different and the scene goes somewhere else um so no and i also some some other actors would be intimidated by you by the fact that you want to go in different directions in this when they want to stay stick to the script stick to the i i've had some frustration in the past you know um from some people that i that i look up to i still look up to them but like and then by like maybe the third scene or like maybe the next day or whatever they're like you know what yeah i like playing with you it was cool you know what i mean but i think if you have your certain way and your process and whatnot i think it takes a little bit of time to kind of figure out how do our processes mingle yeah it could be a little jarring to some people but once you have you have your certain way and

it does, I absolutely love it. I think I learn more if you approach that way. Yeah. If I'm intimidated or if I'm thinking about it too much or whatnot, I think it hinders the process and I can't be in the flow state. Yeah. Like what, what else am I there for? I love the creative. I think for me, it's usually like the nerves get out and like if we're running it. You know, if we run it, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then once, I know, I don't love running it either. But sometimes, you know, you have to do what the, you know, if the director wants, it or the other actor wants it a lot of times i was like let's just shoot it right you know but sometimes i would be there and i'd be like oh this um yeah this this guy's a little

you're in your head you would never let anybody know about it and then all of a sudden you hit your hit your stride and then it goes away and then the confidence comes in there's a there's a moment you just kind of feel the transition right yeah yeah like that transition like i'm kind of like what am i was no do your fucking shit you know and that could be exciting when you hit that moment, all of a sudden, it's like a light bulb goes on. Like your personality starts to come through, and that's what you want. Someone would offer your role, and what would it be the role you want, would want to play? Other than Andre or any roles you played, what would be the one role you love to tackle,

like the perfect role for you? We are, well, the team and myself, we're gearing up. then we're pushing in the direction of large, large action, right? So the career has seemed to have gone, you know, stretched, you know, kind of towed the line between, I guess, we'll call it big budget acting and character acting, right? And I like to throw in quirks and lots of differences to each character, whether they're over or subtle to each character, right?

So, but then you still have to play within what the audience specs in like a franchise. So I think we're pushing for large action and I'm doing all the training and stuff that allows the insurance to do that. And then, you know. So you want to be a Stallone? You want to be a Denzel? You want to be a action star? Sure. You know, Denzel definitely has, he's done both. He shut out of the line. Sure. And I'd say, you know, Tom Cruise is one of my biggest inspirations ever. I recently did a stupid stunt to kind of, uh, to emulate Tom Cruise. And I'll tell you about that in a sec, but um, but I, I think more in the independent

sphere, play with that and then push in the franchise section, push for action, action, action. That's where we're headed right now. But the Tom Cruise story. Yeah. Okay. So I was at the Mission Impossible 7 premiere, right? in London. I didn't even see Part two. Part two is now. Part two is now. Well, no, I'm talking about going back 15 years. I, I, I, I'm not a huge action guy. I love it. I like horror movies and

like some docs and I mean, if it's as long as it can be grounded somehow. Sure, sure. If it's just kind of like, oh, it's like, you know, it's just like, yeah, it's, I don't know, it's not me, but it's most of the world. I'm one of the few that, you know, aren't. But it's, you know. Is there a grounded action that you do love? I mean, I love, like, Star Wars. That's that really actually? Super grounded.

Well, that's grounded in its own universe. And the emotionality is universal. Right. So it's real characters playing. But I guess maybe I contradict myself a little bit. But, like, I'm talking like I'm not a big fan of, like, you know. Boles to the war. You know, what's the cars?

fast and furious stuff sure just like oh my god part 10 yeah no i i see that at that point it becomes the machine it's machine and fine people love it good for you i'm just not going to see a movie with you right right right you know right i'm going to go you know unless the nero's in fast and furious 11 yeah exactly but there's a lot of good action like heat remember heat yes he was a good movie michael man yeah that was uh you know stuff like that so they just that happens to have action in it but it isn't centered on the action right right the inciting incidents and whatnot you know i've never seen a john wick never seen john wick no love them absolutely all of them i've seen all four of them yeah i've seen all four of them but i don't i won't watch the spin us just i haven't seen

most marvel movies okay probably a lot of dc movies me and my brother bonded over the you know culminating in the you know the uh avengers end game we would watch all those movies so you love that stuff but also that is like remember i'm a lot older than you so what I liked when I was younger is the same stuff that you like now sure sure you know what I'm saying so I've gotten older and my tastes have gone a little bit like you know more like new american wave of kind of like you know yeah like I like a good good fellow war two thriller okay I like a good uh you know I watched zone of interest really sad kind of movie it was that was intense but like uh I like you know but anyway go ahead so action is kind of

where you're headed you want to do that but obviously you could do both you could do whatever you want really i'd love to keep straddling the line right if that's where the career's been going naturally just keep doing it but do it on 10 um you know and just do the work to get to that point and the stunt with tom cruise okay so i was that you know i was i was talking to my um publicists and they're they're lovely and i was like hey i'd love to go you know during this time i'd love to go to some premieres and whatnot because i just want to see learn be in the environment and whatnot And so, oh, I actually did Oppenheimer. The day of the strike started.

Like, he was the last premiere. That was cool. But, so he did Mission Impossible. And I watched it. It was incredible. And then I see Tom, he's sitting like five, six rows ahead. He stands up. Everyone gives us a standing ovation.

That guy doesn't leave for, I guess, two and a half hours until he's shaking everyone's hand, talked to everyone in a meaningful sense. Unbelievable, isn't it? He's aware. He's intense, but in the perfect way. he's got it down to a to a tea i met him too and i met him for two minutes with his former girlfriend or wife and i was like he's like hey oh yeah how you do and he's what's your name and i got micha rosamma and so it was that and then a year later i was at someone's house like uh they had this like

barbecue and he goes hey tom this is micha rosam and tom's there and goes no he goes hey hey tom he goes hey i met you at uh adam sandler's party like a year ago and i go oh my God, Tom Cruz remembers me. That's who he is. He's aware of everything. He is the business, right? He is. And so I was like, wow, this is why I'm at these premier so I can watch and see how the big dogs do it, right? And what they're doing. I was Indiana Jones. And I saw Harrison Ford and his way was very, very different. And I'm pretty sure he's been on the ganja. He comes in. He's like, yeah. Yeah. So it's interesting to see all that. That was perfect. Was it? Yeah. I never,

I mean, I've been trying to do it. Yeah. So we got, good. No, that was good. Do you like Blade Runner?

Do you like Blade Runner? Yeah, it's a little slow from me. Sure, sure. I love that, but it's a little slow for me. But I love Raiders of Lost Dark.

I love Temple of Doom. I love, uh, Han Solo, all that, but go ahead. And so, you know,

there's the after party who, you know, and it's only for cast and crew, but we're dressed in a suit and we're waiting. but I didn't actually go to meet him because I wanted to just observe and I was just in awe of observing and I see where all the suits us

are like, let's go. So we walk up to whatever the adjacent hotel is, you know, down the block, whatever. They let us right in and we go and I observe it again for another three hours. He's just on, on, on, on, shaking everyone's hand, talking to everyone.

He does clock me a few times which probably means I know everyone here, why are you here? Or, you know, I don't know, but he looked quick, quick nod and I had a cigar and I went off. But that inspired me. So I was like, yes, what is he done and how is he doing it? And that's incredible. And I'm like, okay, team, what do we do? Is there anything we can do? He said, great. What do you have in my chance?

And I said, you know, this video, you know, Tom Cruise, right? And at the time, he had released this YouTube video of him for Mission Impossible A, standing on top of a plane. And he's like, hey everyone thank you for making top gun blah blah blah we'll see you at the movies and the plane veers off i said let's do that i said let's do that ever wonder how dark the world can really get well we dive into the twisted the terrifying and the true stories behind some of the world's most chilling crimes hi i'm ben and i'm nicole together we host wicked and grim a true crime podcast that unpacks real-life horrors one case at a time. With deep research, dark storytelling, and the occasional drink to take the edge off,

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he would have gone there so I was like that's the perfect place wow so we take off I go to just outside of Seattle Washington and I get a call as a landing my connecting flight and he's uh it's like hey so our secondary pilot dropped out uh i just wanted to let you guys know so that you know you don't get on the plane no no we're on the plane uh so let's figure it out uh okay okay so we land me and benjy the videographer and benjy's awesome benjy he has some stories he's he's he's a cool and rugged and he was shooting this yeah yeah uh so he's he's he's no stranger to danger he's like nah it's ain't nothing so we get there there there's a second pilot on this private airfield shake his hand great we start training and then uh the secondary

pilot takes off again so your replacement of the secondary pilot took off is he coming back no he's not doing it i'm like okay let's hop on your roller deck should we figure it yeah okay cool cool so we get and we start training how to strap in and do all that stuff but uh but we only yeah and so you need you need two pilots so we need two pilots because We had GoPro's on the first plane, but the second one, we need to get the behind angle, like the Tom Cruise shows. And this isn't cheap. It was cheaper than I thought it would be. 10 grand.

Less. We did a janky. All right, all right. Janky. So you set all these cameras up. Yeah. And then Benji's like, hey, we need to remove the door on a secondary plane so I can get a good angle. Is that possible?

He's like, sure. So he's removing the door to the secondary plane. He's calling up his roller decks. No one wants to do it. And so we do end up finding the secondary pilot. And he says, the first pilot says, I have some safety concerns. So I can't really give you the full Tom Cruise. I can't give you the that.

I'm like, okay, just give me what you can. We'll make it work. And we're training. And there's the harnesses on top of the plane. You were supposed to climb up and harness yourself in. And I said, well, that wasn't what the pitch was. The pitch was I stand on the carpet like Tom Cruise did. Okay, we're figuring that out.

So we figure it out and I end up having the reserve harness on me. And the reserve harness has to be long enough for you to be able to climb up to the top. They couldn't, you know, tighten it more. So if I fall down, it's great. I'm not falling off the plane, but I might fall on the pilot. And then we do go down. So we need a second reserve harness. What do we use?

A ratchet clamp. Kind of like the same ones you use in IKEA to kind of like put a mattress on top of your car. So I had ratchet clamp, one of those, and the cockpit is like, because it's like a crop dust. The cockpit is like the edge of the visitor like this. And I have my feet on either side like teetering. And then we're training, we're doing it hours and hours and hours. And they say, okay, the wind's going to hit you at 160 miles an hour is what is what it is. And we're going to be between 2 and 5,000 feet in the air.

And I was like, you want to keep another jacket on? I was like, yeah, because it's like the video like Tom did. Sweet. So we get in. The training's all good. We're about to hit it. We take off. And I'm like, great, here it is. Right. We wait for the planes to get into position. And I stand up. And as I stand up out of the cockpit, I go, oh shit. Okay, it's 160 miles an hour of wind. I hold on. I pull myself up. My feet are on the edge teetering like this. And then my jacket goes over my head, my leather jacket. And my leather jacket's hitting me at 160 miles. right over and over again. But it's funny. It was funny and I there was no time to be scared. I was like fuck. And so we had to get into position to do the video. I have to turn around. But to turn around I have to let go of one of the three points of contact that you have to have on all times on the plane. That's my arm holding on. So I have to three, two, one and grab anything I fucking can as I turn around. The jack is still over my face. To make matters worse, I kicked, I think

of like the controls of the plane, like the master controls as I got up. So he couldn't communicate with the other pilot. No, he was good. He was a great pilot. He figured it out, but he means he couldn't communicate with the other plane. So whilst he was trying to figure that out and get into position, I'm waving around and he thinks that's the signal to do the maneuver. It wasn't. My shit was over my head. And he does the maneuver. And did he teeter it? Or did he give me the full-time cruise? He damn nearer went. If it wasn't upside down, it was three-quarters of the way there. My feet came off the cockpit, just enough like zero G's, hit it again, rectified. I sit my ass down in that cockpit, snug as a rug, and I go, holy fuck. And so then I do up my jacket,

and we have two more passes, right? Now he's figured out that the cockpit situation, he's got the controls down. Okay, great. We go up, we do it two more times. We get, we get the pass. Great. And then we land. We check the audio. And obviously the audio of whatever. we were going to say is right right right so ADR and Benji says he says hey that was crazy dude how do you feel I said I feel all right I feel right right and then he says that was crazy I said thank you Benji no dude that was fucking crazy post so so I'm going to we're going to use it at some point for something right we just need to jerry rig and figure out what we need to use it for

and so maybe like I don't know we'll see but then and if it goes well the plan is to just keep doing Tom Cruise stunts. Jesus, you're insane. Thank you. And so my mom would then say I'm proud of you. Yeah, you're saying, now I'm proud of you. He was like, that's fucking insane. And then we landed and we got it all in the can.

And he says, no chance. I have been held at gunpoint by insert people here undercover filming. I've done this. I've done that. He had some crazy stories. This is fucking crazy. And I went, oh, okay then. You got balls, dear.

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Okay. I have done He did say it to me And then one time I bumped into him again After he said that And I go, hey, guess what? He goes what?

You give me advice He goes, what would I tell you? I said, you said never go to anybody else's premiere Only go to your own. He goes, all right, I did say that. And I go, but tonight I'm going to my premiere. He goes, all right.

Then he goes, I'm not. And then he walked off. Tasha asks, what is something that scares you when and when do you feel the safest? I feel the safest between action and cut. When I'm my most scared when I allow my thoughts to get the best of me. Amber asked, good answer.

What was your experience working with Jensen Ackles? He's a fucking G. I love him. I love Jensen. He's he's suave. He's cool. He's kind and compassionate. Kind and compassionate.

Yeah, he's he's a good dude. Little Lisa, you have any weird habits? Yeah, I have. I've always had these kind of like mild ticks, almost like Touretti. And they're stress induced. So I'd be, I'd be shit at a poker table. I have tics. We all have ticks. Everybody has something. Not you, Ryan, bastard. Leanne, if you only

describe yourself in one word, what would it be in why? Crazy. Crazy. Crazy's good, though. Crazy can be good. Crazy is good if you know, if you're aware of it. Pottle of coins. B. What's your dream role? You already said that, but, but let's, let's say, let's say, Rocky. Let's do Rocky. If we can go back in time and do Rocky. Go back into there's nothing wrong with that. my favorite movies. Look, what are you doing for the next 50 years of your life? I was wondering if you wouldn't mind marrying me too much. That's fucking good. Hey, Paul Way. Yo, Paulie. Yo, Father Carmine. I was wondering if you could say a few words, you know, before I get my face beating. It's about how much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done.

Yes. Gen V is out on, is it Param, Amazon? Amazon. Amazon. Amazon. Sony and Amazon out on Amazon Prime. Amazon Prime. They could watch the first season now. Yes. We're going back to shoot the next one in a month or two. People love the show, man. They're excited about it. And when you do a spin-off, sometimes that doesn't happen, but it caught right away. It did some good numbers. People are into it. For sure. I'm happy for you. Thank you. And I also wanted to say, Smallville was the shit.

You watched it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get out. Yeah, so I had a cousin, and he would watch it. And that's how I got into it. I don't know if I finished it, right? Because it was like 10 seasons or something, right? But at that point, I think I go to Xbox and my attention as a child moved on. Yes. But good shit. Thanks, man.

It was a fun time. Thank you for that part of my childhood. Hey, and thank you for all that you do. And you're an inspiration. Keep doing it. Listen to your mom. She knows what she's doing. Keep busy, but also stay in therapy.

For sure. Keep learning about yourself and what makes you do certain things. That's what it's all about. Try to tell my dad that. But anyway. And don't go to anyone else's premieres. And don't go to anyone else, except Tom Cruise's premieres. Except Tom Cruise's premiere.

Except you want to see how action stars work and how they respond to other people. So then you can incorporate certain qualities in your life. Yes, sir. Look, kid. All right, thanks, man. James for Domo. Look out for this guy. I love it.

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